basketball super star lebron james being dumped on by a no-name. >> a high school kid. brian: slogan comes to us from vickie in marysville, ohio. fact or fiction, truth or lies, "fox & friends" let you decide. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- steve: brian has been asking for that clip for that movie to be included in the show and today toba decided to do that. brian: not during the show. in the breaks. any given sunday, al pay chin know. >> what are you going to do? brian: free game talk that i believe would help us focus. i didn't believe it was coming on in the beginning of the show. alisyn: how i'm feeling right now as a result of that. brian: 11 questions. 55 minutes. a live press conference at 8:00. leading into.

steve: mr. kilmeade, i would like to answer. i echo what bill o'reilly started last night started his live show. i watched after having figured out the president dodge 11 questions. i was thinking what did we learn? o'reilly said look, i have got a masters from harvard, i don't know exactly what he said. here is ultimately what it come down to. that is that the president's bill is in trouble. it doesn't sound like it's going to happen before the august recess. so he is making his case to the american people. it's so confusing i don't know that he won anybody over. did he not alay any fears. alisyn: here is what i learned. listen, the reason we need to do this right now because if we don't do it, he basically said it's a crisis. over the next 10 years, all of your health care costs will double. the system will be more broken and that's why we are trying to fix it i hadn't heard that before that all of the health care costs are double. i don't know if that is an exact statistic. he framed it like here is what the rush is. here is why we are doing it but

then he talked about the problem a lot. he talked a lot about the problems. he gets letters every day from people. he didn't spell out the solution. steve: details. alisyn: any detailed way for us to be able to absorb it. brian: do you know why? he didn't write the bill. it's not done yet. a bill stuck in the house stuck in committee. one of two have a version. one of those committees is stuck because they're focused on being bipartisan. republicans orrin hatch would give in not dug. in don't count me. in i cannot do this anymore. in the big picture i thought it was very interesting in the fourth press conference in six months. just 1 questions it was let me answer your question in three words and let me tell you why i called this press conference. the one specific, alisyn, was millionaires. you are in trouble. if you feel as though you are not giving enough, you are giving more. because the millionaire tax that's been kicked around, it seems as though barack obama wants to see it done. that's just 1% of the population, so he must feel as

though he can get that done. steve: in the meantime charlie rangel's plan is to tax guy who make $280,000. so. different plans out there. brian: it's combined income. steve: i thought it was very telling. there is a story in the national journal that apparently chuck grassley told that last week some -- the president called in some democrat blue dog democrats who are not behind his plan. and he said to one of them, you're going to destroy my presidency. so, that's what -- people come in to the oval office and say i have got a problem with this. i have a suggestion on how to change it he goes, you are going to change my presidency if you change this. alisyn: let's talk about some of the really interesting highlights from last night. one moment everybody is interested in. will my health care change with this policy. if you have health care that you like, remember, the president said that we're north going to touch it you just get to keep exactly the same policy that you have. there was a reporter who asked him about this.

will there be any sort of public option? i don't know what that means. does that make. steve: the government provider. alisyn: does the government provider mean that the rest of our health care changes? the president said something very interesting. steve: we have the bite. alisyn: let's hear it from the president then. >> you can guarantee that this legislation will lock in and say the government will never die -- deny any service that was will be decided by the doctor and the patient. >> can i guarantee that there are going to knob changes in the health care delivery system? no. the whole point of this is to try to encourage changes that work. alisyn: that's confusing though. because for the people who like their health care, they want to hear nothing will change. everything will stay the same. if you like your health care. but that's not exactly what he was saying. brian: because corporations. unless you are on this cobra

plan or business that changes own plan. if the public option is cheaper and that the private insurance is more expensive, they are going to go to the public option. so, therefore, we are going to be stuck in a medicare v.a. type system which is going to be whom emergency niced homaganized. the insurance industry is making record profits that doesn't seem right. who is going to reign them in? steve: the government is going to do that talking about how the government is going to make all these decisions. dick morris was talking about how there will be a national medical review board. even though they haven't met you they will make the recommendations on whether or not you get a certain treatment. there was one person that asked a great question that he dodged. what about the experts who say and i'm kind of paraphrasing. americans would have to give up tests and referrals and choices and end of life care in order to stop the costs from spiralling

upward. and his answer was they are going. alisyn: should we hear from the president? steve: no. brian: we have heard enough. steve: we have heard enough. they are going to have to give up paying for things that don't make them healthier. or was that the actual question and answer? was that by jake tapper? alisyn: did you it so much better than the president would have. steve: it was his opportunity to say no, we are not going to have rationing. no, end of life care will be as it is today. and you won't give up referrals and choices. brian: david axelrod will be with us this show i believe for the first time live. he, by the way. will answer this question, i hope. this mystical medical review board that's going to be reviewing everything from medicare to medicaid to this new public option, they are going to be in place and hopefully they will be more qualified than the car czar who doesn't know anything about cars. barack obama got one last question from lynn sweet and

that is about a professor that was going into his own house. there was a controversy -- professor gates. a friend at harvard. into his house. they thought somebody was breaking into his house. they called the cops. he ended up arrested. here is what barack obama had to say. >> the guy forgot his keys. gymies his way to get into the house. there was a report called into the police station that there might be a burglary taking place. so far so good, right? i mean, if i was trying to jigger -- well, i guess this is my house now but it probably wouldn't happen. but let's say my old house in chicago. here i would get shot. brian: very funny. steve: kind of weird talking about the -- the president talking about himself getting shot in washington. alisyn: you don't hear that often. is this funny or is this making me worried?

you know, this has been a topic because it has racial overtones that it was interesting to hear the president address. and he said that the police in cambridge, massachusetts were stupid. he used that word. brian: they acted stupidly. his own house. there is another side of that story. might have been belidge justice center with the cops and they thought i'm going to call him in. he had to known that question was coming from lynn sweet. calls on a reporter. he does it. lynn sweet let's close this out. ready to go with the cambridge question. no other medical question. now we are talking about a cambridge professor who happens to be his end and ends with the chicago reporter. chicago tribune or whatever it is. steve: email us now.

about the president sell you on his plan? friends@foxnews.com. forget about us. it really comes down has he sold this to people on capitol hill. molly henneberg is at the white house right now. molly, one of the big questions is and there weren't answers. how is this thing going to get paid for. >> good morning steve, brian, and alisyn. the president says he is waiting on a plan from congress. he says two thirds much the health care reform bill will be paid for by cutting wasteful spending, cutting fraud. the other one third higher taxes, the president said. listen to what he said last night. >> the house suggested a surcharge on wealthy americans and my understanding, although i haven't seen the final versions is that there has been talk about making that basically only apply to families whose joint income is a million dollars.

to me that meets my principle that it's not being shouldered by families who are already having a tough time. >> another principle the president says regarding this health care plan is that it cannot raise the deficit. when he said that he said, quote, i mean it steve. brian: molly, i'm sorry, did you want to talk to steve? steve: molly lurks take a question from brian? >> absolutely. go ahead, brian. brian: thank you very much, molly for giving in in the end. right now nancy pelosi says she's has the votes. almost nobody else says that you need 218 in the house. what's the reality? >> yeah. speaker pelosi came out yesterday and says she believes health care can pass the house right now. she said, quote, there is no question that she has the votes to pass the democratically controlled house. that may come as news to the blue dogs though. there are 52 of them. one of them indiana represent

barron hill disagreed with the speaker. she may be well-intended he says he does not think the votes are there yet. brian? alisyn? or steve? alisyn: very nicely done. thank you. not just the blue dogs. lots of people are -- i'm interested in nancy pelosi's math how she gets there because not everybody does. steve: this coalition of modern democrats. orrin hatch, a republican from utah, left one of the senate finance committees last night. is he one of these moderate guys too trying to work on something. he walked out last night and said we're not going to do this. brian: i quit. i'm not coming anymore. steve: i'm all done. this is not going to work for me. we will keep you posted. it does not look like it's going to make both houses by the august break. steve. alisyn: in the meantime. left me tell you what's happening. we begin with a fox news alert. fox is learning that the son of osama bin laden is-likely dead.

u.s. officials believe sod bin laden was killed in an predator air strike earlier this year. his body though not yet found. weighs key al qaeda terrorist in the bombings that killed 53 people, including nine americans. another developing story for you. this one out of texas where violence erupted on the campus of texas southern university. last night six people were shot in a drive-by during a community rally on the houston campus. some of them innocent victims. they are all expected to be ok. the gunfire sparked a stampede of people running for their lives and the violence broke out at the end of tray day. that's a day long family event to celebrate the rapper tray that truth. i hope i'm saying that right. secretary of state hillary clinton is in thailand right now part of her tour of asia. earlier this morning she responded to north korea's refusal to end its nuclear weapons program saying the north is running out of options and has, quote, no friends left.

>> we do not intend to reward north korea just for returning to the table. nor do we intend to reward them for actions they have already committed to taking and then reneged on. the past -- path is open to them and up to them to follow in. until they do they will face international isolation and unrelenting pressure of global sanctions. alisyn: secretary clinton meets later this morning with thailand's foreign minister before heading to japan. the investigation into michael jackson's death is turning criminal as police raid the offices of his doctor, conrad murray. investigators searched his houston office taking computer documents and files. a source says the focus of the probe is that drug dip prix van dip pro-van that was found in

his system. they are looking at evidence to support a manslaughter charge. the l.a. coroner's office says at least a half dozen staffs improperly viewed jackson's file. what a shock. some may have printed copies of his death certificate before they went public. yes. you can imagine the curiosity. it's illegal. brian: climate change, it's ugly. suddenly it took an ugly turn. >> i take office to it. >> ok. >> as an african-american and veteran of this country i take offense to that. brian: up next, harry alford, the cropp of the national chamber of commerce joins us live. find out more at aflac!... ...forbusiness.com (laughter) go climb a tree. or discover things you've only read about. get the gear to get it done at bass pro shops.

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alisyn: president obama says he is in a hurry to pass health care reform by the end of the summer. >> i'm rushed because i get letters every day from families that are being clobbered by health care costs.

the second thing is the fact that if you don't set deadlines in this town, things don't happen. alisyn: is he being too hasty and will the american people buy it? why are joined by hell lien cooper "new york times" correspondent and author of the house of sugar beach and chief correspondent for "the washington times." thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you. alisyn: hell lien, let me start with you. what were the headlines last night. >> the biggest headline for me was not about health care was president obama's extraordinary defense of henry lewis gates, the harvard professor who was arrested in his own home in cambridge and taken to the cambridge police department. it's really rare to have a sitting president to come out and with a pending legal case because some of professor gates' friends say that he may yet sue the cambridge police department for president obama to come out there and call the cambridge,

say that the cambridge police behaved stupidly in arresting professor georgia's after they established that he was in his own home and not breaking into his home. i thought that was a pretty extraordinary thing. that was the headline. alisyn: yes, i agree with you. that was a surreal moment. particularly because he referenced that he would be shot, barack obama said, if it happened to him. but in the meantime i do want to get back to health care because that was the headline of the press conference. obviously. joe, what struck you? >> well, i think what was remarkable to a lot of people was just how few real details there were. i mean, here was an opportunity for the president to basically lay out the plan he has been trying to sell. he has come out to sue the americans, sort of also sell to the democrats, you know, members of his own party on capitol hill why they need to move so quickly on this. you got to the end of it you didn't know what he said or what he specifically wanted to do. it was very vague, very light on details. alisyn: let me play for you why

he said he is rushing to get this done. >> you haven't seen me out there blaming the republicans. i have been a little frustrated by some of the misinformation that's been come out of the republicans, but that has to do with, as you pointed out, politics. you know, if you have got somebody out there saying not that, you know, let's get the best bill possible but, instead says, you know, let's try to beat this so we can game political advantage, well, you know, that's not, i think, what the american people expect. alisyn: very quickly, we don't have much time, is the criticism of this bill just about politics? >> no. i think but for president obama a lot of last night was all about calming people's fears. because he is clearly -- the white house is clearly concerned about the slipping poll numbers and it's clearly concerned that this health care, this whole health care reform package is in deep jeopardy in the house and in the minds of the american public.

alisyn: helene, sorry to cut you off and joel i owe you an answer. thanks for joining thus morning. >> thanks. alisyn: debate in the senate takes an ugly turn and harry alford will join us next.

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steve: toe to toe with her on race. >> he is proud, i'm sure. >> proud? that. >> i'm quoting her. >> all of that is con descending, i don't like it. it's racial. i take offense to it. steve: that man was the ceo of the national chamber of commerce harry alford joins us now. >> good morning.

brian: harry, did you know that barbara boxer, senator barbara boxer. i know she gets crazy if i don't say senator. she worked hard to get that title. senator barbara boxer was going to come at you with somebody on the naacp? >> it is like the man from mars landing in front of me it was from outerspace. it had nothing to do with the issue of energy policy. and she is coming out of right field with this, and it just -- i just thought it was very disappointing and i let her now how i felt. steve: you were called up to talk about cap and trade of all things and then it turned into a racial thing. because effectively, was she trying to pit one black man against another. >> it's old racial tactic. we call it divide and conquer. i wasn't going to take that bait. for some reason she thought i was somebody stupid now i guess. i hope i have changed her mind.

steve: you did. brian: when do t. comes to the green economy and greening of our committee. let's talk about what you found out about barbara boxer upon further review after that confrontation which made national evidence lines, when you looked at her track record, what did you discover? >> yeah. i got back to my office and i said why does she do that? you know, i knew she was obnoxious and what have you. i got on kick peed i can't and google. here is the master mind of the anita hill distraction when clarence thomas was up for confirmation to the supreme court. here is a person that came out of the blue and engineered the accusation that ken blackwell rigged the election in 2004. here is the person that demean and slandered and libelled the honorable condoleezza rice like she was some person off the street. and that, i guess, is what led

her to coming after me in this fashion. and i wasn't going to stand for it. you know, i have served in this country. i'm in a federal building. there are federally elected officials. and i'm not going to play with race. steve: do you think she is a racist, harry? >> i think she has a problem. she needs therapy. she really does. she is clinical. brian: what's happened since the confrontation? >> i got a big fan club thousands of emails. 98. a% cheering me on. a lot of people begging me to move back to california and run for the senate next time around. i will find somebody else to do that and i will support them. brian: i'm sure she is not sitting on her hands. has her office reached out to you or to others? >> to others. i have got a board room in california. they tell me they have been leaning on him. he knows what the deal is. no.

you made this trap and you are in it. find your own way to get yourself out. steve: before you leave,you were called up to capitol hill -- why is it that you as a ceo of the black chamber of commerce are against it? >> what we need is an energy policy that is going to make the united states self-sufficient. we need nuclear energy. we need more natural gas. we need more exploration. we need alternative energy. we need renewable energy. we need all of that to present and deliver energy to the american people and american businesses in an affordable fashion. and at the same time be environmentally friendly. that is the issue and why congress can't come up with 150 pages, 200 pages of a logical strategy, as opposed to 1200 pages of pork and hustle is an american tragedy that here we are in 2009, and have yet to have energy policy while every other country in the world has one. steve: there you go. harry alford.

brian: a man with opinions and willing to speak his mind. i get that feeling. the ceo of the national black chamber of commerce. harry, let me us know what comes with your political career to go back to california and do something. >> thank you, fellows. brian: 29 minutes after the hour. steve: straight ahead, president obama did not give a lot of details about his health care plan last night. did he make a point to talk about the bush administration. again. >> six months ago i took office amid the worst recession in half a century. we were losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month. and our financial system was on the verge of collapse. steve: is he half a year into his administration. when is the blame game going to stop? brian: there is a warning on cigarettes. even one on booze. but a health warning on hot dogs? you won't believe this one. steve: that looks delicious. brian: nitrites not good for you. steve: the video nike didn't want you to z lebron james

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brian: we're back. work seven straight days. alisyn: 8. brian: alisyn in for gretchen. are you going to wear the same outfit? alisyn: yes, because i sleep in it now. it's great to be with you guys. i am a little punchy today because did i stay up much past my bedtime to watch the press conference. and i couldn't turn it off because it was pretty fascinating. so, let's talk about the highlights of it, shall we? last night, chuck todd from nbc asked the president he said look, if this doesn't work you can't blame the republicans, can you? >> if you don't get, this isn't this a fight inside the democratic party? and the republicans really aren't playing -- you can't really blame the republicans for this one? >> you haven't seen me out there blaming the republicans. i have been a little frustrated by some of the information that's been coming out of the republicans. but that has to do with, as you

pointed out, politics. you know, if you have got somebody out there saying not that, you know, let's get the best bill possible but, instead says, you know, let's try to beat this so we can gain political advantage, well, you know, that's not, i think, what the american people expect. brian: senator demint who said it's going to be his water look we have got to break him, he will be coming up later. a lot of the republicans are saying stuff like that because they feel like the spend something out of control. when the congressional budget office comes out and says this is going to increase spending and the mayo clinic says this is not going to do anything -- they feel this is the first time is he vulnerable on any issue. steve: it's curious because mattaticly the president has got the votes. he controls the house. he controls the senate. so if this thing does not get rammed through, you know, it's the republicans? no. it's the democrats that he would have to blame. and even though he says he is not blaming the republicans, he has played the blame game just

last night? >> six months ago, i took office amid the worst recession in half a century. we were losing an average of 700,000 jobs per month and our financial system was on the verge of collapse. i inherited a 1.3 trillion-dollar deficit. when i came, in we had a 1.3 trillion-dollar deficit, annual deficit that we had already inherited. it originated under the bush administration. so to all -- everybody who is out there who has been ginned up about this idea that the obama administration wants to spend and spend and spend, the fact of the matter is that we inherited a enormous deficit. steve: you get the idea. alisyn: he doesn't want to see that as blame. he reminder. reminding everybody that he inherited this 1.3 trillion-dollar deficit.

they are not exclusive. people do worry that is he spending and spending and spending even though he inherited that deficit. what people's grave reservations are about they don't know what that we can spend our way out of it. brian: joe biden thinks money is so tight we have to spend our way out of it also, i think it's important to point out his budget will quad drew pell the gawd deuteronomy the -- quadruple the deficit. steve: the mess that he finds himself in, although that is not completely accurate. he has done this in the past and we have 31 seconds to prove just that. >> we have inherited an economic crisis as deep and as dire as any since the great depression. this financial crisis that we have had is the largest since the great depression. >> i didn't draw up these a.i.g. contracts. my white house didn't. it's my responsibility to fix the system. on our first day in office we found challenges of unprecedented size and scope.

our economy was in the midst of the most serious downturn since the great depression. >> the economy remains in the midst of a historic recession. the worst we have seen since the great depression. brian: and right now, the american people are starting to say i'm thinking six months in it's pretty much your economy. his approval rating is now at 55% and george bush's six months, in after all that controversy with the election was at 56%. steve: i think -- you are exactly right. he should get credit for the economy right now because, remember, was it february where he said we have got to have the stimulus. the stimulus is going to turn off the problem with losing jobs. and that was back when it was 8%. now we're north of 9.5%. the stimulus did not stimulate the economy as we all thought we were being sold. and, in fact, the president reminded us last night that it's a several year process.

brian: let's wrap around the news now. stimulate me, alisyn. alisyn: happily. let me tell you the headlines. boy scout living the all american life in suburban new york. intelligence says this guy brian innis converted to islam. joined al qaeda and fired rockets at a u.s. military base in afghanistan. he was captured last year and since then he has become a fountain of information. he turned over detailed information to al qaeda on how to blow up trains in new york. when he was caught in afghanistan it, prompted a massive security alert at train stations last thanksgiving. brian: like penn station. alisyn: the war in afghanistan. please continue to chime. in the war in afghanistan continues. the fighting is heating up. casualty count at its highest level since 2001. joining us live from kabul in afghanistan is fox news correspondent connor powell. what's the situation there this morning, connor. >> well, alisyn, july still has

about a week left in the month but already this is the most deadly month for u.s. and international troops here in afghanistan since the initial invasion in 2001. already, with the week left, 34 u.s. service members have been killed. to put that in perspective, during a two month period last summer, only 28 were actually killed. the main reason, there are simply more u.s. troops and international troops here in afghanistan than ever. nearly 60,000 american service members are here right now. including nearly 4,000 u.s. marines that are pushing deep into helmand province, an area where the taliban has used as a base of operations for years. but it's actually the army in the eastern part of the country in places like kunar and pack -- where the casualties are occurring. the taliban will use western pakistan as a staging operation jump over the border? afghanistan and jump back over to the safe haven the pakistan.

many of the casualties are not big battles but they are being caused by ieds where the taliban uses a bomb in the road to kill u.s. soldiers. but, the u.s. military is confident that the price paid now will pay dividends next year in going forward. alisyn? alisyn: thank you very much for the update, connor. all right. meanwhile an air france flight from boston to pairs didn't get very far. 2:00 this morning the pilot turned around and made emergency landing 30 minute into the flight a warning light flashed for one of the engines, the pilot shut it down and returned to logan international. 125 passengers were on board the arabs. no one was hurt. no fire in the engine, they are trying to figure out of why the warning light went on. why does everything happen at logan airport. steve: cigarettes have a warning label and so does alcohol. hot dogs? if a vegetarian group gets their way, hot dogs will come with a warning label as well a group called the cancer project suing

hot dog manufacturers if you eat them you risk getting cancer. the national hot dog and sausage counsel not taking this sitting down. they say there are plenty of studies that to say that that simply is not so. all right. from hot dog news over to brian kilmeade with some sports. brian: thanks some interesting hot dog video. nevada law enforcement now saying they have no intention of opening criminal allegations. that ben roethlisberger raped a woman. lake tahoe sheriff's department says the accuser andrea mcnaulty would have to file a criminal complaint to trigger an investigation. mcnaulty says roethlisberger raped her in a hotel penthouse. the quarterback's lawyer denies the allegation. this as a broadcast report, espn continues to ignore the story. strange. is the dunk lebron james didn't want you to see near did nikey. check out jordan crawford of

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going the extra mile. returning phone calls, showing up on time. doing those things that often tinels we forget to do in a real busy economy that really will pay off by creating new habits and also winning over your current customers. steve: also we have got some tips, buyers beware, when hiring help confirm a business license and insurance, you know, that they have got insurance as well. because a lot of times you don't know. you see somebody's name on the internet or in a classified ad and it's like if that guy is going to come over to payment my house you should let them and should have references. >> check those out. don't just take their word for it call and confirm the licensing and insurance. especially in a down economy. those things cost money. they might have let lapse. alisyn: both of under the circumstances are interested in renovating our kitchen and we hear that now is a good time. steve: see this gray hair right here? >> it's a great time. consumers are in the drivers seat unlike any time in the recent past because there is

more supply on the contractor's side. so, don't be afraid to negotiate and don't settle. this is a time where can you really stretch and get the best contracts you can. alisyn: how do you know how much to negotiate for? wiggle room of 10%. >> at least 10%. talked to service companies and already coming off their prices 10%. don't be afraid to ask for more. steve: alisyn and angie, you can get a variety of estimates. last year i had my house painted. one estimate was $2,500. the other estimate was 12,500. same paint. >> not a time to skip out on getting three estimates. really important right now so you know you end up with an outlier. alisyn: thanks so much for coming on. check out angie's list later. steve: which costs less government run or private health care you? would think that government run would be less. the next guess says that's not

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>> if someone told that you there is a plan out there that is guaranteed to double your health care costs over the next 10 years, that's guaranteed to result in more americans losing their health care, and that is by far the biggest contributor to our federal deficit, i think most people would be opposed to that. well, that's the status quo. lnchts government run health care really cost the american people less? alisyn: jeff anderson senior fellow joins us with private care. good morning.

>> good morning. alisyn: do you buy the president's plan in that sound bite we just played if we do nothing over the next 10 years that august of our health care costs would double? >> no, i think the surest way to have our health care costs double is to buy into the president's plan. the cost of government-run health care have been far greater. they have risen far more than the cost of private care costs nearly 40 years. i looked at the cost of medicare and medicaid the two flag ship government run programs and compared that to the cost of all other health care in america. the vast of which is purchased privately. the cost of medicare and medicaid since 1970 have risen one third more per patient than the combined cost of all other health care in america. government run health care has resulted in far higher costs than private care. brian: david axelrod will be on in 30 minutes. we ask him that he did say last night to the president, that the main people making a profit right now are the health

insurance companies. the health insurance companies making record profit. how does that bode with what you found with government insurance? >> well, i'm looking at the entire cost of private care, including the cost that are paid to those insurance companies. what it finds is regardless of the profit they are making, privately purchased care has cost far less than government care. since 1970, for every three dollars that privately purchased care costs have risen, the costs of government run health care have risen more than four. and when you think about it, this is not really a great surprise. when is anything become cheaper by being funneled through the massive bureaucratic apparatus of the federal government? alisyn: the president talked last night about why it is so expensive now. let's say your child has a sore throat. here is a scenario that could happen. let's take a listen. >> part of what we want to do is make sure those decisions are being made by doctors and medical experts based on evidence.

based on what works. right now doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that's out there. so if they are looking and you come in and you have got a bad sore throat, or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself you know what? i would make a lot more money if i take this kid's tonsils out. is that a fact, jeffrey? >> well, what he is basically talking about there is the medicare reimbursement system. so, yeah, it creates some very flawed incentives. those are flawed incentives put in place by government. what we need is to have decisions made by doctors and consumers. we need to get consumers back in charge of things and, yet, obama care would point us in the opposite direction away from consumer control and toward more control by the government. more control by insurers. it would can't percentage

consumers would even be allowed to pay out of pocket. so, i mean, that's clearly going in the wrong direction. brian: jeff anderson senior fellow institute. go to their web site for more information over the 10 year study. thanks, jeff. >> thank you. brian: three minutes before the top of the hour. alisyn: why is the president pushing so hard for relt care reform? what's the rush we have america's mayor rudy giuliani and david axlerod coming up. brian: then a terrorist group allowed to organize at a hilton hotel on u.s. soil. next hour you will hear from a mom whose son is a sergeant in the air force. she is so mad she canceled their reservations at a hilton-owned hotel. will others follow? - hi. - crowd: hi!

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fair and balance ed when i tune in to "fox & friends." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- alisyn: slipped into a zin like state. brian: our overseas contingency operation. alisyn: war on terror. brian: kicked into gear when i found there was a young terrorist who broke into al qaeda's inner ring, inner circle who lived about 15 miles from me. then you find out sod mohammed kept in house arrest in iran for years. looks like he was killed in pakistan. alisyn: we do have a lot of news for you this morning. including, we are going to, of course, update you on everything that happened last night with health care. but, let me tell you some other evidence lines because we do begin with a fox news alert. fox news is learning as brian just said that the son of osama bin laden is likely dead. u.s. officials believe sod bin laden was killed in a drone air strike earlier this year.

his body though not yet found. key al qaeda terrorist involved in the 2003 bombings in saudi arabia that killed 53 people including nine americans. we have another fox news alert for you. a gang war spills out on to a college campus in houston. a witness says it sounded like 40 of july fireworks. bullets fired from a speeding car were fired into a community rally at texas southern university last night. one student was seriously hurt but will survive. five other people were hurt less seriously. police think two suburban gangs are responsible. president obama says the nation's financial system is stable again. and credits the unpopular 700 billion-dollar set of bailouts. regulators need to focus on preventing another meltdown. shareholders should have nonbinding votes on executive compensation packages. government should impose new fees on what he calls far out transactions. update now to a story we have been following here on "fox & friends."

a highway trooper from oklahoma seen on video fighting with a paramedic now suspended for five days without pay. this cell phone video shows trooper daniel martin grabbing the paramedic maurice white. you can see martin putting him in a chokehold. this all happened after martin pulled white over for failing to yield. martin's boss says he was justified stopping and arresting white but believes the situation should have been handled differently. turns out there was someone in the ambulance during the scuffle and highway safety says martin should have let them go to the hospital. tell us about the weather. steve: widely scattered thunderstorms moving through portions of the great lakes states. carolinas up through south jersey right now. cloud cover and the potential for some rain storms, thunder perhaps throughout the afternoon hours. currently, temperatures, as you can see, pretty nice. 50's and six across the northern half. 70's down south. it's going to be hot, as you can see from the map, if you are

watching on tv and not listening in the radio out in the desert southwest and in fact phoenix today 105. 81 in new york city. 88 in raleigh and 92 today in new orleans. going to feel like summer. alisyn: brian, do you want to give us an a rod update? brian: don't met with his car especially if you are his chef. things got ugly when the chef took his suv for a shopping run. rodriguez says his chef named mary let's leave it at that hit his car and smashed up the suv. some reports that arod's girlfriend kate hudson was in the car at the time of the accident. we know mary and kate sometimes shop together. when he saw his car, arod was caught scolding mary for her reckless driving. steve: oh boy. alisyn: those are your headlines. steve: mary, mary, quite a bad driver. brian: do you think alex rodriguez was too busy to lead another vic -- victory to watch

the president last night. brian: he had an option. steve: public option. whole public had a option. what was your reaction to the president's speech last night. we did hear him talk about how some doctors will take out your kids' tonsils just to make more money. did he talk about red pills and blue pills. his hair was considerably more gray than we had seen in the past. but the big question is and this is why he went on tv. the poll numbers are tanking for the president. it's not looking good for him. brian: only 44% approve of his program. steve: the gallup poll came out yesterday and only 50% disapprove. only 44 in the gallup. and then you have got the congressional budget office saying this is actually going to cost more than less. you got the mayo clinic coming out saying this will not increase quality and cost could say skyrocket. did he have enough details about how to pay for it? no. alisyn: let's listen to what he said about the tax on the

wealthiest americans. >> the house suggested a surcharge on wealthy americans. and my understanding, although i haven't seen the final versions is that there has been talk about making that basically only apply to families whose joint income is a million dollars. to me, that meets my principle that it's not being shouldered by families who are already having a tough time. brian: millionaires look out. combined income of $1 million, you will be paying more money. we will find how much more. if by yourself you are a single income family making $500,000, you will be in that millionaire tax. steve: it's not really millionaires it will hit a small businessmen. not considered millionaires but their business takes it in and put it on their individual tax returns. brian: successful business people that hire other people might decide instead of me hiring somebody for $30,000, i can't because i have to pay an additional 30,000 into a public

kiddy for somebody else to use. steve: let me interrupt for just a second. brian: calm down, ali, stay out of this. steve: he has gotten a number of friends who are trying -- they are looking at this proposal, this millionaire hit thing, the a .3%, they are trying to figure out how to, perhaps, not makes a much money in the coming years so that 5.4% doesn't kick in. so, in other words. brian: want to make less. steve diesel ler rate. alisyn: one of the other big concerns for americans is if you will be able to keep your own health care coverage if you are happy with it. will it be status quo for you? the 'has always said look, we are not going to touch your health care coverage if you are satisfied. but last night there seemed to be something of a shift. let's listen to the question and the answer. >> you can guarantee that this legislation will lock in and say the government will never deny any services that that's going to be decided by the doctor and the patient and the government

will not deny any coverage? >> can i guarantee that there are going to be no changes in the health care delivery system? no. the whole point of this is to try to encourage changes that work. brian: medicare is not working. it's losing money. that is going it be reformed. the public option, how is that going to be different than what we're experiencing right now. how is that going to be different than social security. how is it going to be different for veterans who call the radio show all the time is a that say you don't apt public option. we have the v.a. hospitals. besides the rehab, which is top notch, it is a nightmare for those who serve in our military. alisyn: there are were not the questions that were not answered last night and lots of details missing. we have david axelrod the advisor coming on shortly to help answer some of those. steve: the national journal yesterday had tantalizing bit of information. it talked about how chuck grassley, the long-time senator

from iowa had been talking to congressman on the other side last week. and, in fact, here is the quote. steve: keep in mind these are democrats who came into the white house who said ok we can't go for your proposal right now, the proposal as it stands, so here's my suggestion on how to change it and then according to grassley, the president said, hey, you are going to destroy my presidency. which goes to show you that there is a lot on the line. and for all the reasons we were talking about a moment ago. alisyn: this is a defining moment. as we heard from senator jim demint he thinks if this fails he used the word that this would be the president's waterloo. the president actually addressed but boo not by specific name

twice senator jim will he mint last night. we have senator jim demint coming on to talk about. this defining moment. brian: fourth presser six months. 11 questions in 55 minutes. what do you think? did president obama sell you on health care reform or are you like bill owe rile live that you still don't know what he is talking about. and bill o'reilly went to a very good school. steve: quite a line up ahead on this "fox & friends" for a tuesday. rudy is going to join us with his reaction to a health care plan. he thinks it's a bad idea. brian: we will talk to the president's senior advisor, david axelrod. we want to find out why the president is rushing this reform. we have probably another question. ♪ woohoo!

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brian: is he in washington. you know him well. he ran for president. mayor rudy giuliani. could be the next governor of new york if he decides to do that. that's for another time. mayor, welcome back. >> thank you very much. brian: you didn't need capable to watch president obama. steve: it's better on cable. brian: rabbit ears and tin foil and get it anywhere. barack obama's fourth press conference in six months. what's your reaction? are you now on board for nationalized health care? >> well that wouldn't be fair, i wasn't on board to start with i dli the whole idea of nationalizing health care like they nationalized g.m. would be a terrible mistake. the reality is i just was left with even more questions now. i do not understand for the life of me how he expects the american people to believe that covering 20 to 50 million more people with health insurance is not going to cost any money. all of a sudden our triple by pass operation is going to be done for free? this makes no sense. i think it's hurting the

president. because the american people essentially have common sense it makes no sense it won't cost any money to cover these people that have to be covered. and then, of course, the big earl issue even for me is i think it's going to deteriorate health care in this country tray. wife you want to spend all this money which it's going to cost as everyone says, except the president to make us like canada. there is no one that comes from canada to the united states for treatment. i mean comes from the united states to canada for treatment it works the other way around. alisyn: mayor, do you believe in the president's overarching premise which is that there is a health care crisis in our country that if not addressed will really spiral downward over the next 10 years? >> ifif you you address a crisis incorrectly, you make it worse, as this stimulus package pointed out demonstrated for us. you can do the wrong thing about a crisis and make it four times worse. remember when he was going to pass the stimulus, he promised us it was going to have immediate effects. people in his administration

said that it was going to lower unemployment. unemployment has gone up. the deficit has bloomed way beyond the deficit he was left. yeah, there is a crisis. but you can do it right or you can do something really wrong and make things, you know, pretty close to catastrophic. this health care thing worries me even more than all the spending. this will be very hard to undo if you do it wrong. you put 30, 40, 50 million people on this health care program. the government insurance program, you are not going to be able to undo that. steve: then it becomes entitlement. mayor, you just touched on that magic number that we hear about so many times, 50 million americans are going to be covered under this new plan. and then you start to do the math and you think ok, 50 million new people in the system with no new doctors and a lot of doctors being driven out because they will be paid less, we are going to wind up with some form of rationing because there is going to be longer lines and people are going to have to wait longer and unfortunately we had dick morris on yesterday who said that when there is rationing in health

care, generally it's the elderly who are short changed and people who are younger who have longer to live get better care. >> only two ways you can cut costs and that is you pay less to doctors in which case we will have less doctors, not more with more patients. or you cut services and who are they going to cut? they will cut the old. that's why you have government commissions being established. i was riding around washington yesterday thinking if they passed this thing, we are going to have 20 new buildings in washington just to manage it. if you look he had to us bill. they have got about 8 new bureaucracies that will built up in washington to manage what might be the largest insurance company in the country. which will be government-owned. which sounds more like a non-american kind of system than the one i was used to. brian: you are not, to me, somebody who just digs in, republicans are always right in every issue that they come up with, i back. and when you see mitch mcconnell hop on national television and say we agreerks it's a health care problem. it's in cost and access.

wouldn't you think the groundwork is set to have some type of bipartisan agreement. >> of course there is. there are a lot of ways to go. i have a particular favorite. i think you work on the $15,000 exemption for employer insurance. you give that exemption to everyone. you set up health savings accounts so if you can get insurance for less than 15,000. you get $15,000 tax-free to spend. if you find something for less than 15,000, you save that money tax-free. you can use it then for out-of-pocket health care expenses, which can drive down premiums. that's a market solution. this is not a market solution. i know the president used that language but, again, that was really well just not correct. i don't want to go any further than that. it was really not correct to call it a market solution. it's a nationalized insurance program that he is setting up. whether you call it a cooperative or anything else. it seems so much like what has happened with the automotive industry, what's happened with our banks, what's happened with our financial institutions. this will be another massive

nationalization and they have energy all set up to come right behind it. alisyn: so then mayor giving that public support seems to be slipping and americans seem to have more trepidation about this change. do you think he will back off of the august deadline? >> i think he has to. if it's such a good program according to the president, why rush? why not let it stand the test of time. why not let it get examined in the marketplace of ideas over of the summer into the fall. if it's such a good program, it will pass. i worked for ronald reagan. he got tax cuts through a democratic congress. got democrats to vote for it. no republicans voted for this thing. the problem the president is having is with his democrats. weave don't even get to the republicans yet. brian: we want to talk about more years of reagan he had 60% approval rating and that's maybe the reason he got everything passed. you can stay another block. >> sure. happy to. steve: in addition to rudy, we are fair and balanced here. coming up straight ahead david

axelrod will join us from the north lawn of the white house. we will talk to him about why the president is rushing this reform. alisyn: a terrorist group allowed to meet at a hilton hotel in chicago? wçñcçñwñ

steve: news by the numbers. $15 million being shelled out for the building heath ledger died in. foreclosure auction. 101 how many dunkin' donuts have closed since june because franchise owners have gone belly up they need dough. 329-millimeter how many televisions are now in the united states. according to the census bureau that's more than the number of people. we have 307 million people in the country. and 32 million televisions.

all tuned to fox news we hope. alisyn: live in my house that's true. we are back with rudy giuliani getting reaction to last night's speech on health care by president obama. i wanted to ask you about something the president touched on. when he was asked that why people -- americans are anxious right now there seems to be so much government spending. there are the bailouts. there is the stimulus. there is now the health care. what the president said was well, actually people are anxious because we have all grown so cynical about what government can do. what are your thoughts on that explanation? >> well, my thoughts on it are it goes back to the founders of the country. they were cynical about what government can do which is why they created a restrained government. i think that this administration probably has grown the government more quickly than any administration in the history of this country. i mean, there has never been such a massive increase in the size of spending that i can ever remember either in my lifetime or historically. you are talking about trillions of dollars being added in six

months to a government that's supposed to be restrained government. and the president hasn't done any cost-cutting there has been symbolic $100 million which in a budget of this size is symbolic cutting. he hasn't done the kind of cutting that rooneld reagan did or other presidents have attempted to do or many governors and mayors have done, 10%, 15% cuts in the size of government. he accepts this idea that there are programs that are absolutely have to remain so you can't look at them. so i think that's why the cynicism exists. government has never restrained cost. he is telling people this is going to cost nothing. steve: how much trouble is the president in right now with this health care initiative? >> i think momentarily this will be a big win or a big loss, depending on whether the president makes it or not. presidencies are a long, long process.

presidents have big defeats and come back. big vic tris and ended up losing. so i think that the president's opponents can make too much of how big a thing this is. i think for the moment this will be real big. president gets us through, he is going to look like is he invincible. if he loses, is he going to look like is he wounded. that's not true. he has got a long way to go and we will see. brian: to quote great philosopher bill parcells it's a marathon not a sprint. >> not over until it's over from the other great philosopher yogy. brian: thank you for not bringing up the yankee's winning streak. >> i don't want to gloat. i'm here in washington. they might not let me through baltimore. brian: thanks mayor rudy giuliani. always a pleasure. thanks. >> take care. alisyn: the president is pushing health care through at a record pace. why the rush? white house senior advisor david axelrod joins us next. crest whitestrips has created a revolutionary strip

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brian: joining us now from the white house david axlerod. welcome to "fox & friends." >> thanks for having me. brian: david, what do you think was accomplished last night? >> well, i think that the president had a chance to address the american people directly on the urgency of health care and health insurance reform i thought made a very

good presentation. he didn't say things that people don't know. health insurance premiums have doubled. out-of-pocket expenses have exploded and they understand we're on unsustainable path and we need reform. made a very good case for why last night. i think it will be helpful. alisyn: david, i want to bring up an issue that has people concerned it was touched on last night and that is rationing. how is rationing not inevitable with 47 million more people in the system and no more doctors? >> well, first of all, your assumption is that the system is operating perfectly right now, that there is no waste, that there is no inefficiency, that there is no feather bedding on the part of insurance companies. i think that the american people know otherwise. and the facts suggest otherwise there are many ways that you can save money within the system without harming patient care. you ought to be able to improve it. just by installing prevention and wellness programs as part of

the healthcare system, having insurance companies cover those. you are going tonight up saving money on the back end. health care, computerization of health care records which we have already begun going to save money on the back end. and you all know, everyone understands that we have had tests that are repeated that aren't necessary. alisyn: sure, but not just saving money. i mean in terms of doctors availability to patients. one of the concerns is that with more patients in the system doctor also have to treat everybody for a shorter time and furthermore, many doctors are being general practitioners are almost extinct. they are being priced out by prohibitive insurance policies. >> well, exactly. the system works against the kind of health care that we need. understand that the american medical association, who represents the largest association of doctors in the country have endorsed this reform because just because it will deal with the situation you are talking about, instead of fee for service where doctors

are paid by volume, it will pay for patient care per capita fee for patients so that they can spend time with their patients and administer the kind of health care that people want and need. so we're trying to address the kind of problem that exists today. there is plenty of rationing going on in the system right now. it's just being directed by the insurance industry. steve: you just quoted the ama. but if you want to quote the mayo clinic which the president has quoted in the past, they don't like the plan. they don't think we will wind up with better options and the costs not necessarily going down. i know the president is going to also go to the cleveland clinic today around noon but, you know, a lot of people look to the mayo clinic as the gold standard and if they don't like it, there must be something the matter with it. >> well, actually, i think you mischaracterized what their criticism of the house bill was. their criticism was that there wasn't enough long-term cost savings. >> right. steve: one of the reasons we

admire the cleveland clinic they give the best health care in the country and third less costs they apply the same kind of techniques that we are trying to encourage in the healthcare system. we agree that there needs to be more cost-savings and that is being thrashed out. of the finally house bill isn't done. the final senate bill isn't done. the president has said he won't sign a bill that doesn't have cost savings in the near term that will make it deficit-neutral and cost savings in the long term that will bend the curve of health care grote. brian: when you look at v.a. hospitals medicare, social security. we see programs that are in trouble that are literally on life support. why do we feel as though the public option that you are proposing is going to be any better than the public programs that we have right now? >> well, first of all, left me point out that one of the reasons that medicare has problems right now is because of this growth in health care costs. and if we don't tame that, and this program auto would do that, then then medicare will be in a

degree of trouble in the very near future. so, this is part of that reform. one option in an exchange. if you don't have health insurance today. and you try and get health care, it is monitor russly expensive, which is why so many people don't have it. if you are a small business, you can't afford to get health care for your -- you can go now under this program you can go into an insurance exchange. you can compare and contrast between a whole bunch of plans, including a public choice. and make the decision that is best for your family or your company. and i think most people understand this will add competition. it will add choice. brian: but it's unfair competition, david, don't you agree it's an unfair competition when that public option is tax-pair funded and not for profit against a private insurance agency? it's unfair competition. endless supply of capital. >> the public plan will not be

any more subsidized than private plans. there is not going to be an additional subsidy to help that public plan compete. they will have to compete on the basis of the premiums that they collect. so, no, i don't agree with you. alisyn: david, the blue dog democrats say there is no way this can happen in the next eight days before july 31st. is it safe to say that the deadline has now been pushed back after august? >> well, first of all, let me repeat what the president said last night. i think the fact that there was a deadline is the reason that three out of five congressional committees have passed bills. the other two are doing good work and we are making progress. i think it's because he set some deadlines as he said in washington if you don't set deadlines, nothing hans. it was never the case that even if we passed bills off the house and senate floor now they are going to have to have go to a conference committee and reconcile those bills in the fall. those debate will go well into the fall. this notion is that all of it is going to be decided in the next

eight days simply isn't true. steve: david axelrod joining us live from the white house. last night he made it clear that he, the president, has got the greatest health care in the world because he has got a doctor following him around. you are nearby, if you scrape your elbow can that doctor help you too. >> i think his hippocratic oath would require that. brian: bactine works for everybody. >> i have great health care so do you. i heard mayor rudy giuliani. he has great health care. the problem is that most people in this country are paying more and more every year to get less and less under the current system. that's why we have to change it. brian: 90% of americans have health insurance. >> right. and they need insurance reform because they are paying more and more. they are getting less and less. if they have a preexisting condition, they are excluded. if they guest sick, there are rescissions and insurance companies can say you know what? we didn't know you were going to get cancer we are not covering you anymore. that's simply not right and that's why we need reform.

steve: david axelrod, it's about to rain in washington. >> thanks you guys. brian: 22 minutes before the top of the hour. what do you want to talk about now? steve: i think it's time. brian: finally, i was saying on my way to work yesterday, no, i have nothing to say. alisyn: how about secretary of state hillary clinton because she is wrapping up meetings in thailand as part of her tour of asia. north korea has been on the agenda during this trip. secretary clinton said the country is running out of options after it once again refused to enter six party talks. >> complete and irreversible denuclearization is the only viable path for north korea. alisyn: secretary clinton will make a stop in japan before heading back to washington. steve: they apparently knew their killers. a lawyer for the florida couple said they donated to one of the men accused of murdering them. oh boy. he said bird and mellowed billings made a small

description to leonard wallace's martial arts program. a fellow suspect has fingered gonzalez as master mind of the killings and single shooter. he is among 8 people charged in the crime. the billings leave behind 17 children. nine of them adopted with special needs. one of the older children now will take care of them. brian. brian: last week the ceo of the national black chamber of commerce took on senator barbara boxer over race. >> he is proud, i'm sure. >> proud, proud. >> that i am quoting him. >> all of that is condescending. i don't like it. it's racial. i don't like it. >> excuse me, sir. >> i take offense to it. brian: and this morning on "fox & friends," harry alford had this to say about that confrontation. >> i wasn't going to stand for it. you know, i have served in this country. i'm in a federal building. there are federally elected officials, i'm not going to play with race. steve: do you think she is a racist, harry? >> i think she has a problem. she needs therapy.

she really does. she is clinical. brian: my tie is too long. alford also claims alford is behind many racial attacks. alisyn: the international space station already awake wake up call by the rocket man imhadself. ♪ alisyn: that was elton john. they have some work to make up because yesterday's spacewalk was cut short there was a problem with cassidy's space suit causing the carbon dioxide levels to rise inside. is he ok. work to replace batteries outside the space station was unfinished. next spacewalk is set for tomorrow. it's the drink machine with something for everyone. coca cola unveils the free style. this is a sofd da found with more than 1200 drinks. steve: i want one of those. alisyn: dream come true. made debut at several southern

california fast food restaurants. it was developed in secret for four years. it uses new technology to dependence drinks. that doesn't look nike new. coke calls it the i pod of drink machines. steve: notice that water button? water cost the same as the other drinks. alisyn: what have we come to? brian: terror group with links to al qaeda allowed to hold a conference at a hilton hotel on u.s. soil. a military mom is outraged by. this you may be too. she canceled her reservation at another hotel owned by hilton, mr. l. others follow? what about paris. senator demint calling out obama's program last week. brian: what does senator demint think about the president's news conference last night. he joins us in 10 minutes. alisyn: first, the aflac trivia question of the day. when this shoe store added aflac

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brian: this terrorist group, which has links to al qaeda, held a conference at a hilton hotel here in the middle of america. yes, the united states. it's outrageous to many americans, especially those with loved ones in the military. alisyn: ingrid's son is about to be redeployed to kurdistan. actually he is there now. she joins us from colombia, south carolina, good morning, ingrid, good morning, how are

you? alisyn: i'm fine. tell us your thoughts when you heard that this hilton was hosting this global sunni network that has ties to al qaeda? >> well, my first thought was why am i supporting a hotel that undermines what america is trying to battle against in the world. my son puts his life on the line to do the right thing. stand up. and here on the other hand we have people undermining what we are trying to accomplish. this is a great country of free enterprise. and you know, more people need to make a stand. i called and canceled my reservation. brian: at the double tree in tamp parks florida. >> yeah. brian: you said the heck with that. >> i did. brian: your son is going to be home temporarily. i know you are extremely proud of him and his sacrifice. how does he feel but taking this

stand? >> well, i don't know. he is away in kyrgyzstan for the week. he will be back in spokane next monday. i haven't gotten a chance to talk to him and his poor love live wife amy is stuck with the kids. and everything is a crisis. so she couldn't talk too much. but i know they are proud to do their thing for america. alisyn: we're proud of them. just to be clear, you canceled your reservation at the double tree because it's a subsidiary of the hilton and hilton is where the conference was held. the manager of that oak lawn hilton says, you know what? it isn't illegal. there is free speech in this country and obviously hotels need to make a buck. your response? >> yep, you know. we all have a dog in this fight. and i'm picking my dog. and i'm sorry because hilton has always been a beautiful hotel. every time we have stayed there, we have had a great experience. i'm just sorry i had to draw the

line with this one. brian: ingrid, you know we have a dog in this fight. are you astounded how many americans don't even think we are in a fight and is this something that just gets to you? >> very much so. it is deeply personal to me. my only child is there doing his job. and more of us need to do that. in my opinion. brian: how proud are you of him? >> don't start me on that, brian. see this? brian: i know you are and you must be. and i just felt as though for curtis you are taking a stand, right? >> yes, sir. alisyn: when is curtis coming home, ingrid? >> he will be home on monday. and then he is going to be deployed for the five or more months in the end of august. brian: ingrid splawn taking a stand against the hilton for hosting that conference. thanks so much and thanks for the service your son is giving.

>> our pleasure. thank you brian and alisyn. alisyn: thanks, ingrid. you remember what senator jim demint said about the president's health care plan last week. listen. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. alisyn: what does the senator think now after last night's news conference in which he was thinly veiled mentioned. he joins us after this break. brian: first on this date in history 1904 charles wrapped a ball of ice cream in a waffle at the st. louis world's fair and with a la the ice cream cone was created. in 2004, tiger woods became the youngest player ever to claim golf's grand slam winning all majors in a 12 month period. he was 24. unbelievable was the number one record in 1991. . . i never thought it could happen to me...

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steve: happy birthday don imus, today is his birthday. the winner who got it right is dr. henry detamasso from maryland. we're going to send you a copy of my book. brian: our next guest says we're in the middle of a battle of waterloo proportions. south carolina senator jim demint and president barack obama have been sparring with their own version. listen. >> if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. >> just the other day, one republican senator said if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it whether break him. think about that. this isn't about me. >> the unfortunate thing is i

have no confidence that the president actually wants to make health insurance affordable and available to all americans. >> another republican senator that defeating health care reform is about breaking me. steve: ok. the one guy who got that all started was republican senator from south carolina jim demint who joins us right now. he's also the author of the book "saving freedom." boy, did you stir up a hornet'sest in. what were you trying to say in the beginning? >> well, i did seem to get his attention, but the president has been on a mad tare to expand government, spending, debt, taxes, taking over general motors, and now he wants to take over health care, and i feel like our country is on the edge of a cliff, and if we allow him to ram another thing through congress that no one has read that doesn't meet the promises that he's made to the american people, he's going to move right on through to cap and trade,

electricity taxes, everything else that he's talking about. we need to stop him. it's not personal, it's not political, this is really bad policy, and we need to slow it down, read what's in the bill, and see that it's going to destroy the american health care system. brian: what do you say to people watching right now that say republicans lost, he won, he's got his majorities, this is just politics, plain old politics. >> it's not politics, it's about getting every american insured with a policy they can afford and own and keep. i've introduced a number of proposals that would help individuals have their own health insurance policies at an affordable price. wh when president obama was in the senate he voted. it makes no common sense. this is not about politics or him. it's about policy, and this plan is really bad policy.

steve: so you just flatly not trying to break him. >> no, i'm trying to break his momentum. if you look at what he's done in the first six months, it's been an unprecedented growth in spending and debt, and nothing seems to be slowing him down. we cannot allow this to continue. brian: where's it at? >> americans have woken up, and i think they're paying attention to this, and they're starting to look at the facts, and they're realizing that the president's promises did not come true on the stimulus, they're starting to think maybe they're not -- the facts on the health care bill as well. so americans are beginning to question, and that's really important right now. i'm not against the president. he's -- i appreciate him, but i do believe that if we lose this health care battle, we could lose a lot of what we fought and died for as a country. steve: well, senator jim demint joining us live from the russell

rotunda, we thank you very much. the democrats are going to start running an ad that attacks that, and his staff is saying look, you can't do that because it simply is not true. brian: meanwhile right before the final hour here's what we have, three children under the age of 11 handcuffed and thrown in a paddy wagon for stealing out of their neighbor's yard. their parents outraged saying police crossed the line. steve: lebron james getting dunked on by a college kid. we're going to show you the whole thing. more "fox & friends" in two minutes. - hi. - crowd: hi!

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night. bill: i am wanting to understand how president obama is going to improve your life and my life in the vital health care realm. i want to understand. i have a master's degree from harvard university that cost me $30,000 to get. i do not understand what the man is saying. alisyn: what did the president say? can we explain it to bill o'reilly this morning, and how will it all affect you? we'll tell you straight ahead. brian: fox news learning this hour the terrorist son of osama bin laden dead, likely dead, 85% chance. we'll tell you who took him down and why. steve: three kids cuffed and thrown behind bars for stealing out of a neighbor's yard. one of the kids just seven years old. did somebody go just a little too far over the line? we're going to report, and you decide this hour. meanwhile our slogan this hour comes from scott in owensville, indiana. it's easy to get up at the crack

of dawn because you know "fox & friends" is on. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- announcer: it's "fox & friends." alisyn: good morning, everybody, thanks for joining us, i'm alisyn in for gretchen today. steve: in that little soundbite we had from bill o'reilly were want to be able to get a master's for only $30,000 at harvard these days. brian: that's how much the books cost right now. dana perino could have got that, but she didn't have the financial aid to get her there. dana perino, did you go to harvard? >> no, i'm one of the nonivy leaguers in washington, d.c. brian: how does that happen? i didn't know it was possible. what did you think of the speech last night? i know you watched, dana. did he do what he was supposed to do and that is sell america on his program that he didn't write? >> as before he comes across very appealing, he knows his

material very well, but i don't think it answered the mail for what they were trying to do. you wake up and the headlines say he knows his material, and he wasn't persuasive, and i think they probably put him in a bad position last night of having a press conference, especially because they announced it on a saturday, and then all those things that happened between saturday and wednesday, they came to the white house last night for a press conference, and there was no drama, he lit no fires, he didn't answer a lot of the questions that people have, and so i think they didn't do what they wanted to do. alisyn: if he knows his material so well, and of course i agree with you, why can't he make bill o'reilly understand it and why can't he make the rest of us. there were some things that he answered that actually raised more questions. for instance when he said yes, of course, there will be changes, we're intending to change the system, so yeah, there will be changes. some people thought if you liked your health care, there will be no changes. >> i think he understands the details of it, he understands the mechanics, but he is not

able to connect. i should be able to explain something to my mom on a first try and have her not have to ask any follow-up questions. america is asking a lot of follow-up questions because they're afraid. i also think they're putting the president in a bad position when he says you're going to be able to keep your health care. he has no control over that, actually, once this bill gets signed into law. unless they're going to sign a law that says everyone gets to keep their health care which i don't think they're going to do. steve: the white house has had a very bad week with the mayo clinic coming out saying we don't like this, the congressional budget office coming out saying it's not going to lower costs, it could actually increase costs, and that's why they didn't even score the darned thing, and you've got the public opinion dropping as well, and then interestingly enough yesterday on this program we were talking about how an organization called the citizen for responsibility and ethics was going to file a lawsuit because they wanted to know who had gone to the white house on the visitor's log, and the white house didn't release

it until late in the day, they released a letter with all the names, and now this group is saying hey, wait a minute. we didn't want a letter. we want the actual records because the records show us who came in, who they visited, what time, and all that other stuff, so the white house thought they dodged around this, but they haven't. they've just delayed it. they've extended it one more day. >> i actually think white houses should be able to have meetings and not have to have them detailed out for everyone to see. sometimes they're public as barack obama said last night. i actually think they could keep it a secret, but the problem is the hypocrisy factor. in the energy task force of 2001 that president cheney led for president bush, everyone went bonkers. we went all the way to up the supreme court, and we won, and when president obama promised all of this transparency and

then doesn't provide it, it provides a distraction from what they're trying to accomplish. brian: good move, not promising it. here is david axelrod earlier talking about the controversial public option part of his plan. >> look, the public option is just one option in an exchange. if you don't have health insurance today and you try and get health care, it is monstrously expensive which is why so many people don't have it. if you're a small business you can't afford to get health care. under this program you could go into an insurance exchange, you can compare and contrast between a whole bunch of plans including a public choice and make the decision that is best for your family or your company, and i think most people understand this will add competition, it will add choice, and it will hold the insurance companies honest. brian: is that possible?

having a public -- >> they're using all of these words that would usually appeal to conservative audiences, and actually with america being tilting slightly right, at least in their views in poll after poll, it makes sense to use that language. i just don't know if it's actually believable. one of the things that is dogging them is the lack of effect in the stimulus package that they put forward last winter. since that hasn't worked out the way that they said it is, i think people are rightly skeptical when it comes to the health care debate, plus you know what it's like when you get a new job. hopefully people have a chance from their employer to look through the plans. it's confusing for everybody. this adds another lair of complexity -- this adds another layer of complexity. i don't think people believe we're going to get a plan that doesn't raise costs, the deficit, and everything is going to stay the same. alisyn: there was an unusual moment in the news conference last night that had nothing to

do with health care, and it was about the arrest of professor gates from harvard, a friend of president obama's. did you find, as brian suspects, that this was a question that the president knew about before-hand? let's take a listen to it. >> the guy forget his keys, jimmied his way to get into the house, there was a report called into the police station that there might be a burglary taking place. so far so got, right? if i was trying to -- well, i guess in is my house now, so it probably wouldn't happen. but let's say my old house in chicago. here i'd get shot. alisyn: what did you think, dana? >> i think he handled that part really well, and americans across the country could laugh at that, and we needed a moment

of levity in the press conference. if i were preparing barack obama yesterday for a press conference i would have guaranteed he would have gotten a question like that because it's a natural one. it did seem he knew that question was coming in detail. one thing that surprised me in that answer is that he used the word that the police acted stupidly. i think it's very difficult for a president, any president, to comment on something where they didn't witness it, they don't know, and to question law enforcement without having all the details is a little bit dicey. brian: and that's a friend of his, and lynn sweet is a chicago reporter, and she closed the show. steve: dana, there was one other curious thing where he talked about how sometimes because of the way payments work to reimburse doctors, sometimes a doctor just is out to make more money is going to take your kids' tonsles out, maybe they don't need to come out. who's doing that? first of all, that's probably

malpractice, and, secondly, it damns a lot of doctors. >> it does. i think that does happen on the very fringe, on the very margins, and 72% of the american people are comfortable with the health care that they have, and they don't want it to change, but that doesn't mean that people don't worry about the others who don't have health care or worry if they change laws they're going to change it, and the republican party has brought forward some ideas, if they get to the table, they could maybe be persuasive, but i think what they could have done last night was press the pause button, stop, ask everyone to come back to the table in september, instead, by his very own criteria that he announced last night, he couldn't sign the house bill, so i don't understand why they're trying to push the house to pass it. steve: so they've got a pause button. >> unfortunately in the government there's no easy button.

alisyn: thanks, dana. steve: booking you was easy. see you next week. >> bye. alisyn: let me tell you what's happening in your headlines this morning. we begin with a "fox news alert" for you. fox is learning that the son of osama bin laden is likely dead. u.s. officials believe he was killed in a predator air strike in pakistan earlier this year. his body, though, not yet found. he was a key al-qaeda terrorist involved in the 2003 bombings in saudi arabia that killed americans. another story out of texas where violence erupted on the campus of texas southern university. six people were shot in a drive-by during a community rally on the houston campus. some of them completely innocent bystanders. they're all expected to be ok. the gun fire sparked a stampede of people running for their lives. the violence broke out at the end of tray day, and that's an event celebrating tray that

truth, the rapper. dr. conrad murray's office was searched. a source says the focus of the probe is that drug propofol was found in jackson's system when he died. there's looking for evidence to support a manslaughter charge. the l.a. coroner's office said half a dozen staffers improperly viewed jackson's file. some staff members may have even printed copies of his death certificate before they went public. those are your headlines. steve: they'll try to sell them if they can. straight ahead health care for illegals? yep, how the reform plan could have you paying for people who are in this country illegally. alisyn: and three young boys, aged 7, 8, and 11, were cuffed and put in jail all for stealing

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alisyn: we all got a dose of his plan last night, president obama lays out his health care plan to the nation, but did it pass our next guest's health ogram. brian: peter johnson jr. is here. he specialized in health and insurance litigation. peter, what stood out last night? >> a few things stood out last night. one of the things that really kind of should bother us is what the president said about millionaires even though we're not millionaires.

let's take a look at that. >> the house suggested a surcharge on wealthy americans, and my understanding, although i haven't seen the final version, is there's talk about that applying to families whose joint income is $1 million. to me that meets my principle that it's not being shouldered by families who are already having a tough time. brian: charlie rangel has $350,000. those aren't millionaires. >> that's news to us, and i think that's a big flat line on the healthogram, because he's saying only the people with $1 million. what the house bill said was $250,000, $280,000, up to $350,000, 1% to 5%. and so what we're going to do is provide a lot more health care coverage to 46 million people, we're going to close the medicaid and medicare deficit

and only now the people that are making a million dollars a year are going to be paying. brian: you mean those people that hire other people. >> the people that are making $250,000 under this proposal now are very often small business owners who are taxed at the personal level of income based the income that they make from their small business that employers one or two or three people. so to say that it's realistic that only the million dollar earners are going to be paying off for this trillion dollar plan that's going to create a tremendous deficit, that's a big flat line. alisyn: let's see what your healthogram, how it rates this next question about rationing and whether everyone is going to have to start rationing their health care. take a listen. >> do you accept the premise that other than some taxes on the wealthiest americans the american people are going to have to give anything up in order for this to happen? >> they're going to have to give

up paying for things that don't make them healthier. brian: go to the graph. what does it say? >> flat line on that one. brian: looks like a heart murmur on that one. >> i had some medical school. brian: i apologize. you had legal school. who are you kidding? >> they mix and match sometimes. the real issue is when you provide 46 million new people with health care, when there are not sufficient physicians to begin with, when by the year 2020 we're going to have thousands and thousands less physicians, what we're paying more for health care, how are you going to treat all those people? there has to be a queue. there has to be a line. there has to be a great britain system where you wait for the mammogram. brian: and they have a king and queen, and we don't want that. people losing their jobs, their homes, but they don't want to

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alisyn: 24 minutes after the hour. here's an update to a story we've been following. the highway trooper in oklahoma seen fighting with a paramedic now suspended for five days without pay. he had pulled over the paramedic for failing to yield, and all of this went on as a patient was waiting in the ambulance. officials say the priority should have been getting to the hospital. ♪ we have sad news for you this morning, the passing of a

cultural icon, the famous taco bell dog has died. those commercials made gidget the chihuahua a star. she was 15 years old. steve. steve: three young boys, ages 7, 8, and 11, were handcuffed and placed in a holding cell by the baltimore police after stealing from their neighbor's yard. the boys' parents say the police officers went too far and the punishment did not fit the crime. we are joined by toyia goodson and her 8-year-old son along with jamie greeley and her 7-year-old son jesse. ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us today. >> thank you. >> thank you. steve: iazzi, let's start with you. did you steal something out of the neighbor's yard? >> no. steve: you did not. because i read one story in the baltimore paper that you admitted that you guys had been fiddling around or taking something out of a neighbor's

yard. >> i did take something. steve: say that again. >> i did take something out of the neighbor's yard. the go cart. steve: so you did take something out of the neighbor's yard. >> yes. steve: so toyia, apparently the neighbor called the police, and said they're the kids who did it. what happened next, toyia? >> actually, my sean was the first person -- the first home that the police -- the victim came to, and then the police. they were -- he just pointed my son out and said him and two other young men were stealing bike parts and bikes out of my yard, and the police said ok, well, he's going to jail, and i said wait a minute. he's 8 years old. let's get to the bottom of this. and he said he didn't have time for that, for any investigating and all of that and that my son was going to get locked up. so after i kept persuading like

let's get to the bottom of it, and then the victim himself was -- wanted to get the other young men that were involved too, what's the police -- that's when we went to the other young man's house and we got down to the bottom of the story. steve: they collected the three boys, the next thing you though they're in a police vehicle and they end up going to the police station handcuffed, they move them to another location, and i understand both of you were -- your kids were in custody for something like five, six, seven hours. jamie, you're angry because your children -- the children were handcuffed. and you'd like an apology because it just simply does not fit kids that age, right? >> yes, that's what i think. they didn't even use the plastic handcuffs that they use on adult criminals. they actually used the metal handcuffs, they handcuffed all three children together, and they remained handcuffed for two and a half hours as they were

waiting for paperwork to be completed at the police station. steve: let me ask you this, jesse and iazzi as well, so you admit to taking something out of the neighbor's yard. will you ever do anything like that again? >> no. steve: jesse? >> no. steve: ok. that's what they want to hear. i know that you would like the police to apologize. they're not going to. toyia, are you thinking about legal action against the baltimore police? >> yes, i am. steve: because? >> because my son as well as the other two young men's health and safety were put at risk with what they did, and we don't dispute that our children did something wrong, but it was just extreme what they did, and my son was abused, and it just wasn't right. steve: we're going to be watching the story to see what happens, ladies and gentlemen, we thank you very much for

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steve: if i were unscrupulous i would figure out a way to make what is said on this case a pay per view event. brian: if it was a podcast. alisyn: it's called the after the show show when we also say very inappropriate things. brian: and ian chimes in. ian behind camera one. i was shocked to see barack obama -- his teleprompter was below the camera, usually they're perfectly choreographed, and he opened up right away blaming the previous administration for the economic woes and the deficit that he's experiencing right now. steve: and in particular i believe it was chucked to from abc, the national broadcasting company, asked a very pointed

question. mathwise how could you possibly lose? you'd have to blame the republicans not the democrats, right? >> isn't this a fight inside the democratic party and that companies really aren't -- you can't really blame the republicans for this one. >> you haven't seen me out there blaming the republicans. i've been a little frustrated by some of the misinformation that's been coming out of the republicans, but that has to do with, as you pointed out, politics. if you've got somebody out there saying not that let's get the best bill possible, but instead says let's try to beat this so we can gain political advantage, that's not what i think the american people expect. brian: what he was alluding to was the fact that 57 democrats, half of which are freshmen, have signed a letter saying we don't like the way this current health care system is constructed, and

you have all the governors, the democratic governors all opposing the health care plan. so you really can't blame the republicans. alisyn: the president didn't really answer chuck todd's question last night. steve: there were several of those. alisyn: he didn't talk about there were many democrats off the reservation with this including the freshmen who are from some of the richest, wealthiest areas around the country. so he didn't answer that. it's easier to talk about the republicans and how they're being political, and that was a thinly veiled reference to senator jim demint. steve: when the president said no, i'm not going to blame the republicans, wait a minute, he does that all the time. watch. >> we've inherited an economic crisis as deep and dire as any since the great depression. this financial crisis is the deepest since the great depression. i didn't draw up these contracts. it's my responsibility to fix

the system. we found challenges of unprecedented size and scope. our economy was in the midst of the most serious downturn since the great depression. the economy remains in the midst of a historic recession. the worst we've seen since the great depression. brian: that's pretty much how he opened. alisyn: wouldn't you keep reminding people i inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. but what he forgets or i guess -- forgets isn't the right word. what he skirts around is what people are most uncomfortable with is the historic spending that he's now doing to address it. steve: joe biden said we've got to spend or we're going to go bankrupt. i think the reason there's frustration in the country is the fact we were told if our congressmen and senators vote for this big stimulus package,

things are going to get better, and by now, six months in, it no longer would be george bush's fault, it would be barack obama's economy, but so much of the stimulus money has not kicked in and won't until next year which is president said last night, so anyway, i think that's why there's frustration, but the president having a bad week politically, and that's why he went on tv to pitch the program, and our question of the day was did the president answer enough of those questions or any of them so that you feel comfortable with reforming the health care policy of this country? we have received thousands of email this morning. we would like to share some of them right now. brian: and some on the twitter accounts. steve: we did hear one detail. that was -- brian: the millionaire tax. steve: also if there's a red pill that costs twice as much as

the blue pill, why don't you use the blue pill. alisyn: let's hear from cindy from florida. now your just showing off, cindy. that's worse when somebody in the health care industry doesn't understand it. in fact there's one here from my blog. so health care workers should be able to understand it. steve: brian and i were talking before the show. do you really understand why he was singling out doctors who are pulling out tonsles? alisyn: i understood that one because he was say this are certain payment plans that if you want to keep treating over

and over you would make more money by just yanking out the tonsles. steve: but that's malpractice. alisyn: maybe the tonsles were the problem. steve: he was saying the underlying problem might have been allergies. brian: 21 minutes before the top of the hour, "fox news alert" now, the labor department just releasinging the new jobless numbers. 554,000 new unemployment claims last week, about 30,000 more than the week before. right now 6.22 million americans continue to collect unemployment. alisyn: ford motor company taking the markets by surprise this morning. they just posted a whopping profit this quarter of $2.3 billion. the main reason? debt restructuring. this is ford's first good quarter in more than a year. secretary of state hillary clinton has wrapped up her tour

of asia and heading back to d.c. north korea was a hot button topic. this is new video of secretary clinton meeting earlier with thailand's foreign minister at a security conference. there she said north korea has no friends left if it does not return to this negotiating table. >> complete and irreversible denuclearization is the only viable path for north korea. alisyn: she also signed a major arms agreement with india during her overseas trip. steve: this is quite a story. that guy right there used to be a boy scout living the all-american life in suburban new york, but u.s. intelligence says this guy, bryant venus, converted to islam, joined al-qaeda, and fired rockets at a us military base in afghanistan. he was captured and has since become a fountain of information. according to court papers just released, he turned over

detailed information to al-qaeda on how to blow up new york city trains and subways, and when he was caught in afghanistan, it prompted a massive security alert on train stations here in the new york city area just this past thanksgiving. so now, brian, we know why there's a heightened alert. brian: we told you were the terrorist group with links to al-qaeda that held a conference at the hilton hotel here in the united states. it's outraging many americans including a woman whose son is in the united states air force. she canceled a reservation at hilton and joined us earlier to talk about why. >> my first thought was why am i supporting a hotel that undermines what america is trying to battle against in the world. my son puts his life on the line to do the right thing, stand up, and here on the other hand we have people undermining what

we're trying to accomplish. brian: her son is coming home this monday before he is redeployed. alisyn: we may be in a recession, but that's not stopping women from getting plastic surgery. 44% of women between the age of 35 and 49 are in favor of plastic surgery and consider botox a, quote, routine surgery. the american society of plastic surgeons says botox treatment jumped 8% last year. 22% of women between 18 and 34 would rather have breast augmentation than a diamond bracelet. the survey done by market research. this is important. brian: it's easier to return the bracelet should you not like a gift. the more i think about it, i'd rather have the bracelet. steve: that's why you're not a woman. brian: there's a lot of reasons why i'm not too. they're here illegally, but they still get health care, and you're going to love who has to

may for it. michelle malkin breaks it down. steve: they are two of the greatest athletes to ever pay their respective sports. peyton manning and kevin garnett right here on "fox & friends" coming up next.

brian: they are the face of the breakfast of the champions, peyton manning and kevin garnett join us right now, but before we talk about what they ate for breakfast and what they're about to do to revolutionize what you will eat in the future, men, pay attention. can we talk a little sports. peyton and kevin, welcome to "fox & friends." >> thanks for having us >> how are you guying doing? brian: and i know about this exciting campaign that's going to change the way we eat in the morning. real quick, peyton in particular, the big story this

week is michael vick, at one point the highest paid player in the nfl. should he be reinstated, and do you expect him to come back in the nfl in top form? >> well, it's hard to say whether he'll be in top form or not. anybody that's out for a couple years, there's always going to be some change there. i know he's meeting with the commissioner i believe this week, and obviously they'll map out a plan. i hope he gets back out there. i think everybody deserves a second chance, and i know he and the commissioner are going to speak today and decide what that plan's going to be, but i hope to see him back out there real soon. brian: so you're for it. kevin, i imagine you feel the same way? >> absolutely. i'm a huge michael vick fan, football fan, it will be good to see him get a second chance at something he loves. brian: kevin, hypothetically, this happens. you're having a scrimmage against some hot prospects in a gym, and a guy's rolling on it, and all of the sudden this guy, this 21-year-old, hypothetically jams over kevin garnett, like

let's say happened against lebron james. does kevin garnett demand the tape be confi skate or do you allow the world to see it? >> things are going to happen like that. you can't be sensitive to it. we're all different. brian: should nike have hidden the video? >> i'm with adidas, i'm not with nike, so, typical. brian: typical of nike is what you're saying. >> yeah. brian: good job. hey, let's talk about this -- it turns out years ago in -- looking at gruel they decide they invented wheaties, and wheaties was the number one breakfast serial for a while. now you're coming out with wheaties fuel, and you guys are part of it. tell me about wheaties feel. >> it's kind of the evolution of wheaties. kevin and albert pujols and hunter and brian, we're all been part of the creation of wheaties

fuel, we've been tasting samples, giving them input, telling them what nutrients we need in our cereal to get us started early in the morning to get us to perform on the field, but also this is for your corporate businessman to get him the energy to perform in his business, to be able to play with your kids after a long day of work, so it's everything that you need to help perform on the field and off the field but also tastes well. brian: finally a man's breakfast. and first off, just be honest, kevin, who is better at their sport? are you better at basketball than peyton is at football? >> i think we're all good in all sports. i don't think one is better than the other. i think peyton is definitely top of the players' list when you think about football and probably whether go down at one of the best quarterbacks, and i think i've created a niche in my

sport. brian: good luck with the man's cereal, wheaties fuel. meanwhile straight ahead as we forge ahead, no citizenship, no problem. learn how some democratic legislators opened up a loophole that could let illegal aliens get health care, no questions asked. let's check in with megyn. megyn: some rerepublicans are negotiating with democrats when it comes to health care. one just walked away exasperated, and he'll join us to tell us why. more trouble for acorn. a new push for criminal charges. and cops pull over a politician for dwi. they find an open container and an open zipper along with a 21-year-old gal. wait till you see what the wife does when we investigate it. . [ female announcer ] there are few guarantees in life.

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alisyn: we have been talking all morning about the president's health care speech. we asked you if he's told you on his plan, and if you even understood it. bill o'reilly said that he could not make heads or tails with it. brian: in fact, he gave some instant analysis last night. >> i want to understand how president obama is going to improve your life and my life in the vital health care realm. i want to understand. i have a master's degree from harvard university that cost me $30,000. i do not understand what he is saying. alisyn: well, you should have paid more. brian: this is true, it is

convoluted. steve: i get what he is talking about because every time a reporter asks a specific question, the president just says held that we need it. are we going to be able to make choices, what about my doctor? he did not answer those specifics. it became a broad look at what things would be like, he hopes, if it is adopted. alisyn: it is a very complicated issue. we know from the 1990's, it is extremely complicated. steve: but they wrote it. brian: this one is 1000 pages. steve: jim demint was on, and i

asked him if anybody had read this. there is a new version coming out today, but he said, i guarantee you no one has read it. alisyn: it is always interesting to hear from our audience. this one is from laura -- brian: well worth the wait. . that sticks to your teeth so well you can even drink water with it on. new crest whitestrips advanced seal. get a dramatically whiter smile while you do just about anything.

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