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magazine covers. if you would like to make yourself look this ridiculous, do not go spending your money on a fancy wax. just going little crazy with your daisy razor. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jon: good morning. we begin with breaking news on what looks to be a massive political corruption scandal of new york and new jersey. fbi agents arrested 30 in mccall and international monarch -- money -- in what they call an international money-laundering scam. jane: also under arrest is the mayor of hoboken and the mayor of secaucus. several rabbis are also in custody in both new york and new jersey, and u.s. attorneys in
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newark say that police cars have four people deep inside. we expect it more details, and we may see some of these people in court in the next couple of hours. jamie is working the story for us. also jon:, new information on this developing story. 80% to 85% sure in intelligence that osama bin laden's son, saad, is dead, taken out by a missile strike in northwest pakistan. he was not believed to be a major al qaeda figure and was not the target of the attack. one report says he may have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. our national correspondent catherine herridge is following these developments. what is the assessment of the intelligence community on this? >> based on conversations this morning, it seems clear officials are fairly confident that one of his sons is probably
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dead. they do not have a high confidence level yet, but i am told they are certainly working along to reach that conclusion. to do that, they typically need some kind of dna or dental records, which may be problematic in this case because what i have been told was that he was probably killed earlier this year in eight predator drowned strike. he would have been collateral damage. jon: so the thinking is that they were going after an al qaeda leader or another suspect and he just happened to be in the group. >> based on conversations i had, he happens to be in the area. he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. to tell you more about saad bin laden, until recently has saw shelter in iran until he returns
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to travel pakistan. some see him as an important link between al qaeda and proper in tribal areas and also iran. he has been back in trouble areas of pakistan and while people say he was not a highly significant target in terms of leadership, he certainly has that marquee name. if, in fact, it is shown he is dead, that would be a big psychological blow to the movement. jon: osama bin laden has a bunch of wives and a bunch of sons. what is more likely, for him to assume leadership? >> it is interesting. bin laden has another son, and in 2001, during the u.s. campaign in afghanistan, you probably remember the propaganda video that shows young children, taking the wreckage of a u.s. helicopter that al qaeda had claimed to brought down.
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one of the children was bin laden's other son. now he would be 18 years old, and significantly, he is the only son of bin laden's saudi wife, and is seen more as a successor to his father. jon: thank you. hillary clinton says north korea has no friends left. they've responded to the latest refusal to give off their nuclear weapons program and are the target of personal insult the last 24 hours, saying that the u.s. will insist that they resume negotiations. before leaving for washington, they talked about efforts to negotiate with the north.
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>> he said it was impossible. >> what the north koreans might say today might not be what they're doing in 30 days. jon: secretary clinton says they will continue to insist that p'yongyang return to negotiations and the u.s. will continue restoring diplomatic ties if north korea agrees to dismantle the program once and for all. jane: the congressman from south carolina has just told our producer that members of congress should cancel or postpone that there breaks scheduled for august to get this health care reform bill done. they said it will affect our standing with the american people and we need to do this. they say to get the plan passed
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before the recess. it is not looking today like they will meet that deadline. i asked steny hoyer about the possibility of postponing or cancelling the vacation and he said he did not think it was necessary. the president today is still pitching the plan, on the road to cleveland. what is the status of this deadline? >> he said, hey, this is a good thing. he wants them to stay in town, as you were hearing, as you said. he wants to work on the bill and may be cut short the august recess. as far as president obama, he said last night, if you do not set deadlines in washington, nothing gets done. he is not talking as much about finishing it in august as he is by finishing it this year. david axelrod spoke today to fox and said its expected to go into
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the fall. >> even if we pass it all for now, there will have to go to a conference committee. >> he said several times he wanted this done by the august recess, but it is not likely to happen. jane: is there any movement today? >> it is interesting. he says he has the sense that the have the votes in the house and nancy pelosi said yesterday she believes there are votes. that is news to fiscally conservative blue dog democrats. in the end, rep baron held disagrees with the speaker, who says she may be well intended but he does not believe they have the votes. jane: molly henneberg in the
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white house spiritual let us know if anything else breaks while we are on the air. thank you. jon: look at the dow. up 160 points, over the 9000 mark after home sales improve for the third straight month. we are reporting from the fox business network. >> we're off to the races coming here. up 150 points on the day and to the market got a couple pieces of economic data this morning. one will move the market, the other not so much. initial claims were higher than expected, and continuous claims were a little lower. but there is a lot you have to read into this report, and while the market digested, it does not move the new about much. as you mentioned, home sales came up for the third straight months, inventory, and that spurred the market higher. it is a continuation of what we have seen over the last week and
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a half or so with corporate earnings. they have been strong and that is driving the market. jane: the federal government has given the housing group known as acorn more than $15 million. today, and new report from republican house oversight committee members says that they have illegally funneled the money to democratic candidates and causes. steve is on this for a spree was the main claim here? >> these republicans are charging acorn with partisan activity using federal funds. republicans accused south a corner voter registration fraud during the run-up to last investor and -- to the last election. and now the call it a shell
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game, designed to conceal the collectivities. they say that acorn hides behind a paper wall of the nonprofit corporate protections to conceal a criminal conspiracy on the part of its directors to launder federal money in order to pursue a partisan agenda and manipulate the american electorate. no comment at this point from either the justice department or the democratic chairman. acorn have commented. they saw the initial summary and as always said they were a legitimate nonprofit group working to and foreclosures for affordable health care, build a stronger economy. the ceos said in an interview that initial review indicates the document to be any recycled and repackaged attack on their good work, relying on documents provided by past employees.
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jane: today they are filing a lawsuit. what is that about? >> right. they claim prosecuting former employees are unconstitutionally being sued. so 7 people were arrested, and five were former acorn employees. acorn is now suing. jane: can you believe this? the dead sea may be slowly disappearing. mike is in it, in a sense. where are you? >> i am up above the dead sea. imagine this. you're hiking along and minding your own business and the earth swallows you up. sinkholes caused by the receding dead sea hang around. i will bring this story to you e. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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middle east may slowly be disappearing. massive sinkhole swallowing up the dead sea. do you want to see what we mean? we have a live report right now that is making jon scott very jealous. show us. >> the israelis and jordanians tapped into the jordan river, the main supplier of water into the dead sea. the dead sea is super-salty. now, fresh water comes down in rainwater and runoff from the mountains. let me show you what happens here. it gets down into this soil. it is super soph. all the rocks will come going down. the water that something to the soil here disappears and dissolves the salt.
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all the sudden, and walked over the soft silo, ankle-deep. it has happened to about a dozen people. some three dozen sinkholes have opened up here, and another 3000 could burst open at any moment. it has caused a big impact on the economy. campgrounds close, hiking paths closed, roads closed. dollars have been lost. it is a natural phenomenon, but it is man-made. jon: i want to work out a deal where i get paid to go rappelling on the job. >> i will give you a fact -- some of my gear includes an altimeter on a wrist watch. i'm now 1,140 feet below sea level.
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jane: mike, what can they do about it, if anything? >> it is all on the idea stage. one thing is to dig it out from the red sea to the dead sea. we are well below sea level so gravity will feed the sea level water into the dead sea. it is costing billions and billions of dollars to dig a canal from the border to hear. jane: how are you going to get out of there? that is the part we do not get to see. thanks, mike. jon: he went from a typical american childhood in a while and neighborhood of two training with al qaeda and firing rockets at military bases, even though he was a military man for this country. details on trace: -- bryan vinas. why he might be america's best weapon against al qaeda.
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jon: a stunning story coming to light about an american al qaeda captured in pakistan. he grew up playing baseball with kids on long island. his dad was an engineer and the boy was a boy scout. a few years ago, investigators say that he converted to islam, cut family ties, and this appeared to train with al qaeda. authorities say he admitted taking part in a rocket attack on u.s. forces in afghanistan before being captured in november. they say he also gave the terror group informations about new york subway systems.
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journeyman for more on this story is congressman peter kaine. he represents the district where vinyas grew up. the l.a. times started working on a story about him. the court transcript in which he was convicted have been sealed. the judge decided to open up parts of it because of this "los angeles times" destination. they were trying to keep a secret, it seems. >> yes, i was there last year during the plots against the long island rail road and subsystem. he had been captured in pakistan and we found out at that time that he had given
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information to al qaeda about the subway system and long island rail road. more is now coming out, and it is a stark we call to realize we face a threat for home run terrorism, and i believe that the muslim community should be more outspoken in denouncing terrorism. to many mosques provide a climate that allows this radicalism to flourish. they need to do more. i think this is an example of what we face from home run terrorism. while we are concerned about the next major attack against a city, we should worry about the suburbs. that is what happened in london and madrid. this case with vinyas shows a real possibility of that. jon: we heard about the
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california kid joining al qaeda, about john walker lindh doing the same thing. here you have a case where it seemed like a normal kid, clean shaven, and one day, something in him said that -- i guess it snaps and sends him off to join an al qaeda camp. he apparently pled guilty to firing rockets and american base. >> this person took up arms against his own country. he was catholic, a hispanic, and i believe he converted to islam. i do not know what came first, but after his conversion he went to pakistan to be trained by al qaeda. he is a person who is actually fighting with them against american troops and giving
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permission to them to launch attacks against the law island rail road, which he and family and friends and neighbors took every day back and forth to new york city. so he has a record of poor into the dark side. jon: one of his neighbors said he is a good kid, really normal. but that is 2 al qaeda are trying to recruit. people with u.s. passports who could get into the country easily and planned attacks. >> we are going to see too many terrorists who are home grown. whatever the motive is, this is a phenomenon we must address. there is a real radicalization process going on, and this is a
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case of someone who comes from the background of not poverty, not from any radical family. but he has chosen to take the ultimate step and have treason against his own country. jon: let me ask you about a story that happened a while ago. 80% sure that saad bin laden was killed in a predator strike. can you fill us in on what happened? >> that is classified information. i really cannot talk about it. jon: 80% to 85% confirmed. they hope for 100%.
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jon: live pictures from andrews air force base were the most powerful man in the world is sending obama off to cleveland, headed to tour the cleveland clinic with ohio gov. ted strickland. the media will not belong on the tour. it is close to the press. the president will be taking books at some of the clinic operations, hoping to engineer
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some of what he sees for the proposed health care reform. later on, chicago for a fund- raiser, then back to washington tonight. jane: we are waiting for a message on what looks to be a massive scandal in new york in new jersey. fbi arrested 30 people so far, saying that it is an international money-laundering conspiracy they're looking at. jamie has been working on details. what do you do? >> this is another new jersey corruption story, with thousands of public officials rounded up. as many as 30 so far. it included rabbis rounded up at the temple, which were also rated for documents.
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multiple meetings at a new jersey diner, and it is incredible to see the confidential witness. and assemblymen also under arrest, part of a corruption and international money-laundering conspiracy. that is the point for the attorney this office, and this crackdown follows a two-year investigation. federal prosecutors, the u.s. attorney's office is updating
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fox and a press conference will happen soon and we will learn a lot more. plan on this being a law and order episode. jon: on capitol hill, they want to postpone the office -- august resource -- recess to work on the health care plan. we have the third ranking republican house with us. what do you think about that? a lot of americans would say, you know, members of congress get unification -- get enough vacation. they can work on the planned." >> you remember last year, we give up the recess to get an up or down vote on the offshore drilling ban being lifted. i'm always in favor of getting
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the right thing done, but if democrats are talking about staying in session so they can find some way to cobble together a government takeover of health care, they can come up with a trillion dollars in new taxes on small businesses and i think most americans would just go home. >> if we do not reform health care, your costs will continue to skyrocket and 14,000 americans will continue to learn we -- lose their health insurance every single day.
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>> the cost of entitlements is an enormous part of our long term structure of debt. but as far we cannot understand why the president wants to expand the role in the economy. even the congressional budget office, which is headed out by a democrat appointed by the house and senate, the congressional budget office just came out and said the plan will add to the budget deficit will continue to contribute to the rising costs in this country. they asked the cbo to come in monday to talk about it. i hope they did not get called in. that would have been appropriate if and administration asked an independent agency of congress to come down onto the carpet.
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i hope that it was just an informational exchange. the office said the democratic health care plan will not control costs and will increase the deficit. they may mean it, but most americans know the government take over will mean higher deficits, higher debts. jon: it seems that the more americans find out about the details are, but was popular this becomes. is that why congressman cliburn wants to keep it? >> that is an explanation for
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why we will only take a few weeks to consider a fundamental transformation. they obviously do not want to give them until august to see what is in this bill. republicans want to do health care reform, and we have been advocating for years. we can do modest changes and lower costs, but that is not what they're trying to do. they're trying to finance a trillion dollar health care plan, the net result will be americans losing their jobs. jon: the committee will let me today -- not me today.
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what does that say to you? >> it says to me that they may not actually have the votes, as the reporter said in the news yesterday. if they had the votes, they would be meeting and finishing the bill and moving it to the floor. what it means is good news for the american people. when i expect is going on right now is that tens of millions of americans are starting to pick up the fund, type an e-mail, send a fax, and say we want health care reform, but do not pass this takeover with the tax increase on the american economy during the worst recession in 25 years. we do not need a trillion dollars and more taxes to pay for government-run health care. jon: thank you.
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jane: we want to get some other news now. what is that there? >> it looks like it's a non tropical low pressure system, but hurricane hunters will be investigating this afternoon. it is moving northward, and we could see another what we can because of this thing in the northeast. closure during hurricanes, you see this a lot on television. it shows you where the colder clouds are in the region, and there's first satellite imagery, where we see all of that imagery. we also have low pressure across the great lakes and that will cause on settling weather.
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that will continue for much of the day into the weekend. flash flood watches and warnings will be posted for long island towards coastal massachusetts. we do have low pressure across the great lakes region, buffalo, cleveland, the ohio river valley. heat across the great basin and the interior regions of the west, 101 las vegas, 105 phoenix. 13 boise, 98 reno, 91 salt lake city. once the hurricane hunters come back, we will let you know what we see. jon: hot times out west, it looks like. jane: mobile devices may be forcing changes to in-flight entertainment.
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>> yes. we already know the airline industry loses money because of the sick economy but now a widespread use of electronic gadgets on planes, laptops and smartphones, is threatening in- flight entertainment, which companies have spent millions on trying to upgrade. airlines are considering airing advertisements on the screens. they could also save on licensing fees for equipment, since passengers are downloading their own entertainment. and they might start charging for u.s. seaports. after this is installed, your battery is dream, and you discover you have downloaded
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spying suffer which lets outsiders listen in on your phone calls and steal data. this does happen to a bunch of black cherry -- black very -- blackberry users in the middle east. east. jon: a corruption sting in the northeast. mayors, and assemblymen, and several rabbis. we're waiting for a conference . attorney's office half an hour from now and expect to find out a lot more about what this is all about. jane: initial word says that it may involve have least in part
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>> it reads like a book -- the actual police report from the professor at harvard arrested last week. i have the incident report from the reporting officer, who says, "look, i had his identification in my hand, we had acertained that he lived there. but mr. gates began to accuse me of being racist. do to the manner he was exhibiting in public, i warned him that he was becoming
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disorderly." and they arrested im. the officer says it had nothing to do with a break-in -- it had to do with yelling at the officer, along with a woman who originally reported a break-in. that is why they slapped cuffs on him. and now bill cosby weighing in? first, president obama. >> any of us would be angry. the cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody
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when there was proof they were in their home. >> drama, drama, drama. bill cosby said, "you know what? we should wait for both sides to come together. maybe the president knows something, but i think everyone should just step back. i don't know if apologies are necessary." jane: thanks. jon: you heard a lot about acorn during the campagn. did they misused taxpayer money, spending it on one party's candidates?
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jon: somewhere in this building, janice dean is doing be happy dance. the dow over 9000. does it feel like it's has been a while? yes. january 6, more than six months ago, was the last time the dow was over 9000. what is driving at? pretty good news about housing. we're continuing to watch it. chris is with us, keeping an eye on that. but there are some signs that the market could be rebounding after all these months of trouble and that is part of the reason industrials are up. if the housing market rebounds,
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people need to buy dishwashers and all those other things. jane: the community group known as acorn -- some house republicans are accusing them of misusing your tax dollars for political purposes. they say that they hide behind a paper wall of non-corporate protections. partisan political agendas, manipulating the american electorate. dan gaynor knows this issue well, because he has been looking into it for awhile. boil it down in the simplest terms, the main accusation here. >> they are breaking both election and tax laws.
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they have got $2 million from bank of america, to we have bail them out house republicans are saying they just need a boost for the campaigns of democratic officials, whether it is blagojevich or others. blagojevich or others. jane: how could they have gotten away with this for so long? >> a going -- acorn is a hugely democratic operation. washington is a land of favors. republicans are hoping they can
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find some way to publicize this more, because acorn is not just involved in elections. they are involved in the census, and the it is reported that they may even be a vault -- involved in community health policing fort the democratic health bills, where you have community groups go to your home and check on your weight san and whether you live a healthy life. jane: than what all americans to build a stronger economy. we have not had the opportunity to read this at length but the initial report says it is a repackaged partisan attack.
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do they need to do anything about it? >> that is classic. if it gets bad enough, you have to deal with that. i think they're trying to get a marker in the sand here to hold government affiliation with acorn. getting them involved will affect the shape of the next congress. jon: coming up next hour, the son of osama bin laden may have been killed in an airstrike in pakistan. catherine herridge is looking at the latest.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jane: sources tell us that the son of osama bin laden was killed in an airstrike in pakistan. jon: a major scandal in new jersey. details 30 minutes from now at the news conerence. jane: in dallas, the owner set up a camera to catch the robber . he likes to eat bananas. in cleveland, ohio, the
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president will once again be pushing his health care reform plan. this comes after the conference when economic recovery was tied to fixing the system. we haerd from one law maker who says we should cancel the recess and keep working. >> that is the conundrum. push through or take a break. . what was said this morning. >> if we leave without doing this, no one will interpret are going home as for the people. we must stay here and get this
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done. >> nancy pelosi said in her frass conference that we were having conversations about continuing the work. jane: there has been a lot of focus on blue dog democrats, who had been standing in the wake of president obama getting what he wants. any progress with them getting on board? >> they describe themselves as fiscally conservative, saying their represent mainstream america, and they have major problems. one key indicator is that if you look at the energy and commerce committee, they have canceled markup sessions two times in a row for the goal line by line coming to an agreement. by sheer numbers, the control the committee, and we have just gotten word that their plant
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markup session has again been canceled, and those votes are not there. so the blue dogs are not yet on the bandwagon for what the leadership is trying to do for yet another day. jane: we heard the speaker said that they have the votes they need. other democrats have said, no, she doesn't. what is going on, here? >> republicans are >> -- quick to say she does not have the votes. but we have had democrats say that it is not a settled issue yet and this is not ready for the floor. chief among them are moderate blue dogs. they come forward and say she may be well-intentioned but at this point is wrong. jane: thank you. let us know if anything
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develops. jon: earnings in a straight losing streak, four consecutive quarters of losses for ford. the good news follows the largest loss in history for them, announced just a little while ago. and bulls are running on wall street. the dow is above 9000 for the first time in nearly eight months. we are far above the 12-year lows of early march, when the dow drops 6440. investors today seem encouraged by stronger-than-expected second-quarter earnings for companies, and sales of existing homes rose for the
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third consecutive month. jane: sources now confirm that the pentagon believes that osama bin laden's son was like the killed some point the time ago in an air strike over pakistan. he may have just been in the wrong place at the wrong time. what does this mean? what does this mean? >> intelligence officials told fox he was part of a predator strike that took up al qaeda.
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they started under president bush and continued under obama because there have been successful efforts. the drum storage can hit any time. jon: a story will hear only on fox news. a classified photo response, and the top brass is said to be grateful for keeping out of public view. the existence of these photos
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the admiral firing off a stern memo. >> what i've heard from those who have seen the photographs is essentially there was a lot of evidence. at the point of cancer -- capture, these were not inside. he said he is appalled by even the suggestion that someone in an american uniform would be have such a way.
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we must prove it. they expect retaliation if the photographs were released, they could be incendiary and. but it was also said during a meeting with the pentagon that we should not take comfort that these photos were not belief. we need to train better. jon: will anybody be prosecuted? >> it is a good question. there were to order cases and these photographs are in the process of being prosecuted.
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again boom, they were enough to make top officials angry. jane: unlikely allies. china and russia took up anti- terrorism training. both sides looked on and they are approving relationships between them, meaning increased stability overall for the region. jon: it sparked outrage. a state trooper caught on tape during a tense confrontation with a paramedic. his hands on the tnt's throat. an up day. úb so many arthritis pain relievers --
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jane: a father stands trial on the same homicide charges that the mother based. dale neuman prayed for their dying daughter instead of getting medical treatment. she died easter sunday last year, her death resulting from country to diabetes. it made the mother guilty of second-degree reckless homicide. sentencing is in october. jon: a shocking competition with a paramedic is caught on tape. brian wilson has been covering the story every step of the way as part of his series, "know
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where to hide." what did he say? >> the highway department here, the highway patrol in oklahoma, said they felt the trigger was justified in making the stop and they believe that the paramedic did resist arrest. they also believe that trooper daniel martin acted unprofessionally and it was conduct unbecoming an officer. he basically got two months off with pay, five days off without pay, and he must undergo an your assessment. he will return to work july 28. >> malfeasance, this behavior will be ignored, and troopers
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will be protected by superiors, regardless of what happens on the street. it is a terrible message to society, to lock enforcement, and a terrible black mark on this department. ne>> the other issue here is tht we were not really allowed to ask any real questions once this came down. the troopers say there's a lawsuit in effect and they cannot answer any questions. i will tell you, however, that the man who made the final decision about the cases the public safety commissioner oklahoma and his name is kevin ward. he reports directly to the governor. i believe we have a picture to show you who the man is who made the decision. at the bottom of this picture, you will see a phone number. maybe some people will have
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better luck getting their questions answered if the call and ask. jon: what about a family of a woman in the ambulance? anything on her? >> the attorney came in and said, but for the grace of god, she would have died. that is a direct quotation from the attorney. jon: i guess you have been getting some roadblocks as you try to pursue the story. the people here -- >> there are professional. we did try to find the public safety commissioner and ask about the ruling, but when he saw our truck, i think he decided he had personal business to attend to and he is no longer on the compound. jon: interesting. thank you. and we want to know what you think. should the tripper have been suspended for his actions? according to a poll on our website, 73% think so, 20% say
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that the department overreacted. you can cast your vote on our website, foxnews.com/ nowheretohide. jane: 1 we talk about health care reform, it makes my brain hurt. it is exhausting, everyone fighting over these details. we are going to try and make it simple for you. the top five things we all need to know about health care, next. also, another train crash, this time in san francisco.
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there are also allegations that one of the three was in the business of selling human organs. one kidney was supposedly sold for $150,000. jon: sound like it will be a wild story. jane: if your head is spinning about health care reform, i am right there with you. each change could affect all of us tests support costs. we have the five things we all need to know. janet rights for the "wall street journal." we will go through these top
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questions. the first, i think, if you get to the heart of it -- i already have insurance. what happens to it under these plans? >> >> sure. for most people, you will not see a lot of changes right away. people will keep their plants, their doctors. there will be some changes. lawmakers are looking at getting rid of the flexible spending accounts that they use, extra expenses, prescriptions. things like that to go away. but in the short term, there should not be a lot. jane: it is funny. you start looking at your plant little differently than you did a couple weeks ago. why is this book is unsustainable, as they say? >> there are two main problems.
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a larger number of uninsured in the u.s., and the cost of health care raspberry sharply. there are about 46 million americans, and they lack health insurance, with people going to the emergency room to get treatment or going without care, facing high medical expense. the government is also spending money on taking care of programs like medicare, the single biggest threat the deficit right now. in order to rain that in, they need to make changes to the system. jane: republicans and democrats -- to the at this point agree on anything? we will put on points of agreement that you mentioned. >> one is that elected system
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reoriented to emphasize prevention and wellness, start paying doctors and hospitals for the quality of care they provide instead of just the treatment. another area is that it would like insurance companies to stop denying coverage to people who are already sick, and the insurance companies agree they're willing to do this as long as there's a mandate. jane: so the main agreements would be paying providers for the quality, an online marketplace to compare plans, and insurance companies cannot deny coverage if you are sick? >> that is right.
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online marketplaces would be a new system that you could use like shopping for plane fares on travel sites. jane: how to pay for it? >> exactly. democrats say you need public health insurance to provide competition to private insurers and give everyone an option to have coverage. opponents say it is too much government control and could drive private insurers out of business. they also say taxes on the wealthy individuals being raised is something they are against in the republican party. and a man that the companies would have to provide or pay for coverage -- some proposals would contribute 8% of the employee payroll. some republicans are uneasy about that idea.
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take a look at this video. -- monkey seee, monkey steal. jon: osama bin laden's son have likely killed an airstrike. is that a sign that osama himself may be running out of hiding places? we will talk to the foundation for defense of democracies. saad bin laden. what do we know about him? >> he is the son of osama and in the family business. we have known that for a long time create -- long time. he probably had a full freeze him when he was living in iran and went to pakistan to join his father. he could have been responsible for terrorist attacks in saudi arabia in 2003 and parts of north africa, like morocco.
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we believe he was being groomed to take over a large part of al qaeda, if not the heir apparent to osama bin laden. jon: and he could have been an emissary between bin laden and the iranians? >> that could be part of the role, but research indicates to is being groomed for more than that, for a top leadership position operationally, he was going to be involved in terrorist attacks in the future. maybe after his father's demise or as a top lieutenant. bin laden trusts people who have the same blood as he does. that is not all, but it is part of it. jon: intelligence agencies are quoted as saying that their 80% to 85% certain they got him. what does that say to you?
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>> fimra have a phone call with a certain source of information. my guess also is that they were not targeting him. they were probably targeting his father or somebody higher up and it just happened to hit him. very likely, san he was near his father in pakistan, and that indicates it we have good ideas were the top leadership is located. jon: because in this case, the have literally does not stay very far from the tree. >> i think this is important.
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i think it is a blow to osama bin laden and al qaeda and shows the precision of these strikes. we got somebody close to bin laden. there have been controversies over the strikes, but the information i have seen say that they are hitting al qaeda, not other people. jon: and that explains why the obama administration continued them. thank you. >> exec the right. inside pakistan, we have limited means to get them. one means are these precise ground strikes. we have intelligence, something up in the air. when they see a terrorist, they can identify him, the order is given, and we can take them out. this has happened a lot of times and we think it is a very effective method.
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jane: live pictures from new york city. we're getting a look at the church there in manhattan where family and friends and colleagues of walter cronkite have begun to arrive. they are there to pay last respects to the tv news legend. the funeral service begins in an hour or so. he died on friday, 92 years old. eric shawn has been there to watch comings and goings. >> today, because the newsmen becomes again the newsmaker. about 10 minutes from now, this cast on park avenue in front of the church which he and his late wife were shipped since the 1970 possible, he will be blessed by reverent tully, his pastor for 50 years. it is a traditional cotillion
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funeral service, eloquent and simplistic, like the man himself. many will pay tribute an honest man who was once the most trusted man in america. it will be a moving service. his son will speak, his grandson will be a pallbearer, and he will be cremated. jon: we will not take you to new jersey, where a peace conference is under way on this major corruption case involving strange things. money-laundering, trafficking in human organs. take a listen. >> to l.a., we are here to announce the take out a large-
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scale investigation. with public corruption, we have arrested 29 individuals, including assemblymen and mayors, underscoring more than ever the pervasive nature of public corruption in this state. on the other side, the fbi and irs have arrested and summoned 16 members of connected international money-laundering rings, including five costs rabbis and their associates. the cloak their extensive criminal activity behind rectitude. but to give you a few more details, we will talk about the investigation and have a few remarks. arrested today, daniel van pelt,
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assemblyman from ocean county. hard in smith has been summoned, also an assemblyman. his warning is unsealed at this time. they were ferrell -- a referral to pay off a $5,000, and the smith response was, "according to your standards, you are generous." he said he wanted to talk stopping about money. the next person i mentioned is the mayor of hoboken. he has been in office about three weeks. some of his statements include on may 19 at the malibu diner, talked-about the runoff election in hoboken, he said, "i
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could be indicted and still get 95% of votes." later, she told the corroborating witness that he broke the world down into three. people with us, you guys, people who climbed on board in the runoff, the have to get in line, and people against us the whole way. they get grounded to power. on june 23, when $10,000 was offered, he said, "great, and we're 20 friends for a long time." the next person on what to mention is the mayor of secaucus, the next is an denise juarez, mayor of ridgefield. the deputy mayor of jersey city, a former assemblyman and candidate for jersey city mayor. for the complaints, his brother
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was also charged today. when the witness said he was investing in exchange for development approval, he was told not to use the word approval, but use the code word, "opportunities." there are a host of other officials and middlemen also arrested today. it was a network of middlemen, including jon guarini, ron manzo, jack shaw introducing the fbi as developers and businessmen. i do not donate, i invest, the c. w. would say in meetings, parking lots, restaurants, diners, offices, basements, boiler rooms, and bathrooms. and politicians willingly put themselves up for sale. hundreds of thousands in bribes were taken.
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complaints show that for these defendants, corruption was a way of life. they existed in an ethics-free zone and exploited giant loopholes in the state campaign contribution rules. our c.w. routinely had proposed projects move to the top of the pile because he paid off. with so many profiting off a corrupt system, is it any wonder people want to change it? victims are average citizens and honest businessmen. they do not have a chance in this culture of corruption. on the money laundering side, there is a presence of crime bosses. bosses. dirty money across the world.
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we have three, but the screen is blocked -- we're handing those out. do not worry about that. in about two years, they wandered about 3 million with our c.w. alone and they were also connected to the laundering, one defendant, mr. rosenbaum, our kidney cells and. as said in the complaint, his business were -- was enticing people to give up a kidney for him that he would sell for $160,000. at this point i would like to turn the podium to our special agent in charge.
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>> people have worked hard over significant time with this investigation. the case was supervised by daniel mckenna, and you'll hear in a few moments from the executive in my staff who had direct oversight in this case. i also want to thank our u.s. attorney's office and the irs criminal investigative division. the arrest that was just announced is truly unprecedented. unprecedented, because of the combination of the number and prominence of individuals involved, dispersal of alleged activity throughout the state and the broad variety of crimes charged.
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starting at 6:00 a.m. this morning, more than 300 agents of the fbi and irs and six ha -- panned out to execute search and arrest warrants at 54 locations. other commissioners, regulatory people, and a number of rabbis from the jewish community. the list sounds like it should be a roster for a community meeting. but they were in the fbi booking room. the people we arrested came from ocean county, hudson county, union county, and bergen county.
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we have search warrants on offices and residences of the new jersey commissioner of the division of community affairs and also the alliance commission. we also executed search warrants with the office -- jane: is that stunning, or what? 33 arrests. you heard the agents talking about it them talking about this scandals, ranging from the trafficking of kidneys to illegal goods. our federal prosecutor has been listening along with us. that is incredible. >> what dark day for new jersey
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that this correction appears to be completely random. false goods like gucci bags, allegations of buying kidneys for $10,000 and selling them for one 50,000 -- that is creepy to begin with. and these people were laundering money new, moving around the world to try to hide its sources, corruption. so this is a very sad day for the citizens of new jersey. jane: i guess we're used to a corruption have line. but these religious leaders acted as crime bosses. rise as of losses. >> that is simply outrageous. for these people to wrap themselves in a veil of being religious and having dedication to the almighty and then turned
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around and use this to hide their activities and money- laundering -- this is just a monstrous evil, if you look at it. jane: that is a large undertaking. kudos to them. we will get more details about how all of these lawmakers are tied together. thank you for joining us. jon: on the other side of the river from new jersey right now they are preparing to memorialize walter cronkite, the legendary newsman. funeral services are about to get under way, and the hearse has just arrived preconceived it backing up there on right corner of your screen. st. bartholomew's church in the middle of manhattan. walter cronkite, who died friday at the age of 92. funeral services about to get underway in new york city. he is going to be buried in missouri.
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jon: the casket of legendary newsom and barack -- walter cronkite, who died friday at age 92, is now being taken from the hearse outside st. bartholomew's church in midtown manhattan. the poll burse, as you can see there, are at the ready, ready to take the legendary bluesman's body into the church. many of these people are her -- his grandchildren. she was a family again, very devoted to his family. he and his wife were married forever. she was deceased before him, a couple years back. he is being memorialized there never had that his funeral service. legend of new york society is
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there, paying homage to a man who spent many years at the news. the word anchor man was coined for him, because he was supposed to be the anchor at election coverage in 1952. the word stock. walter cronkite, the original anchor, laid to rest today. he will be buried in missouri, the state from which he came. he has died at the age of 92. jane: obama is no higher today pushing health care reform at a meeting set a little over an hour from now. the cleveland clinic, one of the top in the country.
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millions of insurance to not have any insurance. and the president no stop number is as high as 47 million americans. who are these americans? let's get to steve brown. we have heard that the number includes illegal immigrants. is that true? cricket down. -- breaking it down. >> yes, the census bureau put the number at about 9.4 7 million. so when the present council of 47 million in the country, and insured, he is talking nine figures worth of illegal aliens. jane: also, there are a number of people who choose not to have health insurance, right? >> yes. we found a guy, 24 years old, working in new jersey. his employer does offer insurance, but he had to pay 200
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for his half, and it did not fit in his budget. >> i think we will be more financially set if we do not pay. i will be able to focus on more important things. >> these people are key, because democrats really want young folks on board with this overall plan because they consume so little health care that their premiums will help pay for the health care of others. jane: and how many in that number are like zak, choosing not to have it? >> according to the former cbo director, it could be as high as 16 million people who could afford it but choose the coverage the nile. that is included in the numbers the president is talking about. jon: a store owner notices some inventory is disappearing. a thief appears to be at work.
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it? i was so sad when they broke up. this is no garden variety crime story. a texas plant shop says that it is a victim of a robbery scheme. take a look at this surveillance video coming up. the owner in richardson, texas says that in the monkey was spotted on the surveillance video. it was the one that had been stealing all the things from the store all along. the owner of the store is with me. so, you think some things are missing. you look at the tape. what was your reaction? >> we were really shocked. we kept playing it forward and backward. jane: did you know what it was initially? >> we have gone back and forth
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with the tape. we have been able to detect if it was a person. when it crouched down and we saw the front legs, you could tell that it was a monkey. jane: he is not in there by himself. he is handing the stolen items to a human on the other side of the wall? >> yes, on the other side of the fence. jane: was he any good at it? quote there was a pile of dirt. jane: he got away with 40 items or so? >> yes. about 40 plants. jane: somebody trained him, obviously, to do this. >> i'm not so sure that he was trained to do it. trained to do it.
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