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>> greg: time to wrap this up. bye, andy. >> goodbye. >> bill schulz, you disgust me beyond belief. ann colter, always a pleasure to have you here. i'm greg gutfeld. captioned by, closed captioning services, inc. i am geraldo rivera on a dark stormy night in new york. we are live and at large and we begin with this fox alert. just a year after she electrified the nation's republicans when she became john mccain's running mate in the race for the white house. with 17 months left for the end of the first term as governor of alaska sarah palin has steppeded down handing the office over to lieutenant governor at a picnic in a fair banks park. >> it is because i love alaska this much i felt it my duty to
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avoid the unproductive politics as usual lame-duck session in august. how does that benefit you? with this decision i will be able to fight harder for you for what is right and for truth. >> plagued by state ethics complaints many bogus and mounting legal expectations she has seen her ratings plummet with her traditional values and willingness to take off t on th big boys. >> can i call you joe? >> while many gop cheered what she brought to the campaign. before long her star was dim by less than stellar performances in several instances like this one from katie tour rick.
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what magazines did you regularly read? >> any of them that have been in front of me all these years. >> as critical stories leak from mccain staffers about everything from her lavish wardrobe to refusal to be briefed on key issues. late night comics began the corrosive ridicules. >> i can see russia from my house. >> palin and her family were put up in the gripeder of the celebrity and tabloid press. had a field day with her daughter's pregnancy, the puts who fathered the baby and other issues normally out of bounds. >> what awkward moment for sarah palin her daughter was knocked up by alex rodriguez. >> with her family targeted the governor announced her dismay. >> it goes beyond his crude sexist perverted jokes. he said i wasn't talking about her 14-year-old.
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david my 14-year-old was there with me at the gamgame. >> despite her post election road her announcement july 3rd she was stepping down as governor nonpolitical observant. >> this is a fox news alert. alaska governor and vice presidential nominee sarah palin makes a municipali huge announc. >> i am not seeking re reelecti. >> it suggests her resignation it will stop the political ambition. >> somehow some way things will turn around and all will be better. >> ann coulter and i were arguing about whether or not it was real. if it was the older teenager it would be funny. >> she was not at the game and alex rodriguez doesn't have any ill legitimate children. the more you know the less funny it is. they are supposed to be fun ynf.
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>> we have a couple of terrific guests now to ponder the political fame of sarah palin. tim pawlenty is with us who described as a gop standard in 2012. governor pawlenty thank you for joining me and ann. let me ask it would seem to me that when you went halfway through that's not a great credential for your next job. how could she resist the criticism that hey, if she is elected president she might say the same thing 17 months before the end. >> good to be with you and ann. a couple things first of all governor palin has been a remarkable leader for the state of alaska. she had been fed up with the ethics complaints. she felt she was in the way of
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progress being made sh so she stepped aside so she could get out of the way of all that do what she wanted to do. it's not the usual path. as you said earlier she is not someone following the usual path. >> i think within the republican party governor palin is widely respected. she has a strong following. i think at this point she could do whatever she wants. i think she is going to have a lot of offers inside and outside public service. >> i would love to have her here at fox news. i think she would be a terrific host of a program. she could make some money. she could get her finances in order and take care of all of those nasty annoying harassing bogus ethics complaints. to run for office don't you think there might be real
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skepticism for a governor and as a potential opponent in 2012 do you welcome that particular challenge? >> i don't view governor palin's opponent i view her as a colleague i worked were on a number of issues. i have a lot of respect for her. i don't know what my future plans are. she is somebody who has been a remarkable leader. she will be able to do whatever she wants. she could go out obviously and make a bunch of money or continue on in public service in some capacity, but i think the future is really wide open for her. i don't think she is been ruled out or should be ruled out in the future of government service. >> talk show host, yes, author, yes. spokesperson for a particular ideology, yes. president, no. >> that is coming from somebody who wouldn't vote for the next republican presidential candidate. >> i voted for john mccain.
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>> john mccain lost. >> all of the ones you respect lose. i want to talk about the public approval ratings falling. a similar story also last week for three-days in a row for the first time mr. popularity obama's ratings fell below 50 percent for the first time. what was the big news story? >> healthcare. >> no the big news story was sarah palin. i think that demonstrates how powerful and important she is that the news media finds it more interesting when a former vice presidential candidate public approval ratings fall as opposed to mr. popularity obama for the first time below 50 percent lower than jimmy carter way lower than george bush. >> i have not seen that f particular poll. i am not saying it doesn't exist. >> juan williams joins us also. where are you? >> in kansas city right now.
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>> what do you think? can you fill at the top in to politics in america? >> you can be popular. she is invasely popular especially with the republican base shoes she speaks to the values she is quite attractiatt. if you look at the numbers republican men are crazy about sarah palin. sarah palin could sell toilet water if she wanted to. the base is so small it means they literally would be closing in on themselves if they had sarah palin as a nominee in 2012. >> up on juan's point she made a big play for the second amendment crowd in the short speech but that's 25 percent of the electorate. >> keep in mind memory about political history one cycle today think of all of the people written off for years and come
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back big and large. rich afterward nixon who would have thought he could come back. ron in aed reagan was viewed as an over the hill player. barack obama when he started running nobody gave him a chance and dismissed him as a vice presidential pick or something like that. for anybody to say somebody is done and finished unless they are indicted or damaged in a technical way i think that's premature. >> i think her case is stronger than that. they are exactly the opposite this way. the democrats appeal only to their base it's george mcgovern, al gore they lose. we appeal only to our base. that's ronald reagan if we win on a landslide and we are all electorate that's john mccain and we lose. the two parties are different that way. to say she can only repeal to the republican base that means she will only win in a landslide. >> wh -- we will have harvard
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welcome home, man.
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>> i think this is fair to say i could answer the question what's the word i am looking for? , stupidly. 56 minutes of press conference 55 men's and 40 seconds on healthcare. 30 seconds of racial controversy. i wonder what the media will go with the next day. let's go to the wheel and give it a spin. round and round.
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come on healthcare. daddy needs a new hip replacement. >> i should have known alwaalwa harsh but funny. >> what's the latest on the diplomacy bash between the president the professor and the cambridge cop really on? with us to sort fact from fiction eminent law professor charles ogle tree who is representing his faculty colleague henry gates in the controversy. professor good to have you on again. is it samad dams -- sam adams bud light? >> if will be something light whether it's bud or something else. >> is game on? will they be getting together? >> the hope is they would get a chance to meet before the president takes his vacation in late august. that will be great. all of the efforts we are making now to go forward to talk about
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the larger talk of how police operate with minority neighborhoods. i see the meeting between the three of them to be an important symbolic step. i see the broader meeting i am planing with the mayor of cambridge the district attorney and other law enforcement officers to deal with these issues, the broader challenge going forward. >> professor, is the problem that the broader issue and i have another story about it later in the program, becau is problem that that broader issue has been obscured the discussion over whether or not the president should have used the add verb stupidly, why didn't he bring it up in a fashion that injected itself so pro fundly and personally into that? >> i think it's just the opposite. in fact if the president had been silent this issue might still be on the back burner.
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the fact that he spoke inarticulately about this created a few fur or that bring to a higher level. if we look at the word stupid used by president obama he used it to criticize himself over the last couple years. for him it's a term when you have a national audience it can create the kind of controversy it did. he had a good idea to call everybody as he did 20 years ago from a law student try to find a middle ground and figure out how everyone can be treated fairly. it has allowed me to hear from clergy had a prayer vigil sunday august 2nd from public officials black, white, male and female young and old vehicle tim -- victims of the police profiling. >> it is as big a case as any
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since rodney king. let me bring in governor tim pawlenty of minnesota. what is your take on the controversy? do you think the president has hurt himself perhaps more importantly has he distracted our attention from the healthcare debate? >> geraldo, i think the issue of racial profiling is a serious one and one that the country needs to pay attention to. it appears here is a series of over reactions ending with the president's comments. the individual involved professor gates, police officer, president all seem to say and do things that were over reacting to certain circumstances. it builds on itself. i think the president again we knowly regrets wh -- genuinely regrets what he says reaching out and having a beer with the other two gentlemen seems like a fine idea. seems like a mounting series of over reactions. to look at the fact pattern as we understand it and to say everyone was fully in the right
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or wrong. people need to think through these things that know the facts before they speak out. inge the president regrets he didn't. >> i agree with that. juan williams, you heard what professor ogle tree says we both know and deeply respect the professor. i heard you suggest that this was not a case of racial profiling and you were very scornful of not only the president but professor gates as well because of his over reaction. wasn't there enough over reaction to go around? >> i think there's lots of over reaction. i don't think it's a case of racial profiling where the neighbors were the ones it's not a matter of driving while black or being stopped on a street corner because you are black. this is the police being called in a good neighborhood were called because it was being broken into. neighbors looking out for neighbors here. you would want someone to respond. i would want someone to respond if there was such a call in my
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neighborhood. >> let me get the response. >> the reality is as you hear the breaking news tonight geraldo i am sure juan and governor and ann coulter has heard as well the caller said she never mentioned race at all. that was not anything she aid on the 911 tape we are eager to hear. >> we are eager to hear that. >> she never shoaled any police officer anything about race. gates didn't inject race into that. i am not saying tsz a case of racial profiling. it was a case of bad judgment. bad idea to have someone in the house with driver's license and id with the address of the crime occurred. it was known before the officer said step outside. step outside and he was therefore arrested. >> got to go professor thank you very much. my panel stand by. there was excellent judgment used in suggesting having a beer and talking it over a beer settles a lot of problems.
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>> back live i would like to give ms. colter to respond. >> thank you professor ogle tree is very smooth never accused or if i ever engage the in disorderly conduct i would like him to represent me. but i have to completely agree with juan williams. could it be saying we are going to hold seminars on racial profiling we hold seminars on false accusations of racism or after the duke lacrosse game. let's hold seminars on the
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problem of rape on college campus. >> her point is made. let me move on to afghanistan and secretary of state. >> i think the president had said very firm in stating the policy followed in afghanistan was not working. those who fought it and carried out the horrific attacks on 9-11 ghe against our country have not yet been fwrut justice, killed or captured. >> for example the second oldest son of al qaeda osama bin laden was killed in a u.s. missile strike. as armed forces take the battles of long neglected band guns the harsh reality is as long as the tal beg taliban can count on harvesting fractured nation billion dollar opium crop they will have the money to fight on. it has always been that way as i
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discovered almost 30 years ago. >> this is obviously pretty busy opium shop here. opium gum. do you have a lot to sell? is there a lot to sell? >> we have much to sell. >> the government doesn't bother you. >> no this is the tribal area. >> by 2003 it was clear the poppy crop was back. >> we are in a gigantic field by the pakistani border. this represents the next wave of terrorism in afghanistan. the opium crop in this country a worth well over a billion dollars. that's the amount that rivals all of the money that comes in all of the international aide programs. the great fear is that this billion dollars will be used to fuel war lords, vooif vat armies something like going on in columbia right now. how can the central government of karzai rival war lords that
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provide that much cash to their people. >> governor pawlenty is back from afghanistan. the marines are attacking the poppy governor but several years of afghan history in two minutes that dope has been around -- that dope is going to be around. >> i did finish my 4th trip to iraq and second trip to afghanistan. a couple things. this country is unlike iraq in the sense that it has a very undeveloped infrastructure and educational structure and undeveloped in many respects. you put your finger right on it the main source of revenue for so many rural iraqis in the south and candle h kandahar providence is this poppy crock. they are simultaneously trying to develop alternatives for the farmers so they have other ways
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to make a living other than growing pop sees. see if that works. that will be an important question we have visited some of those in other places. but it's an open question whether the farmers are going to o that as a viable option
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this is america's news headquarters. i'm lauren sivan. two oklahoma sheriff deputies killed while trying to serve a domestic abuse arrest warrant. investigators say 26-year-old ezekiel holbert opened fire. none much the victims names have been released yet. a developing story from north korea where leaders appear to be extending an olive branch to washington. they said the north is open to
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discuss its nuclear program. north korea says it will not resume six nation talks but is interested in direct negotiations with washington. i'm lauren sivan in new york. o we now head back to "geraldo t large" right here on the fox news channel. news. >> back live. before the break and before we discuss the dope fields of afghanistan, juan williams suggested the incident in cambridge, massachusetts was not racial profiling. ann coulter agreed with him. my concern for juan's career i want to give him a chance to respond. >> i am glad that ann agreed with me. i have a lot of respect for ann. i wrote one about black leadership and the dysfunction and so much of the black leadership. al sharpton called me the black ann coulter. let me tell you something, you heard from the professor you talk about organizeing this and doing that in larger issues you cannot have what the president
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calls a teaching moment if it's based on a lie. if it's a case that this guy was -- >> hold on. hold on both of you. do either of you deny the reality in this country that one of the cases we have at the end of this program that black people and brown people have entirely different and far more negative experiences than law enforcement? >> that's not the point. the point is this -- >> that you are going -- >> i grew up black in brooklyn. i understand the tensions with cops. when cops stop me to this day i am all yes, sir, let's get this over with as quickly as possible. >> i don't think that's bad advice. >> i tell my kids that. >> ann makes a point then i have to move on. >> you don't use this case as a basis for seminar on racial profiling. >> that point is made. registered commissioner you get that now? we are all set.
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juan thank you,ann thank you. let me move on because this criminal case against the doctor we believe it is a certainty now there will be a homicide case against conrad murphy michael jackson's in house doctor. the doctor will be accused of neglectly or recklessly administering the powerful anesthetic that led to jackson's death. then came the execution of the search warrant by the houston office and storage unit. here is the search warrant for the office in housthouston. this one is the search warrant for the storage facility. but we have learned since these warrants were executed that what the authorities are looking for may have already been removed
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from the site. according to the general manager of the storage facility the last time the storage unit was accessed was 9:22 a.m. pacific time on the morning of june 25th the very day michael jackson died. >> the manager for conrad murray. they weren't here over 30 minutes. they came in a mercedes. there was another vehicle out here that was getting the boxes and putting them in. it was an old vehicle. >> the timing of this last visit during which ms. lions we just saw says several boxes were removed by two black females from a mercedes another vehicle where the boxes were placed the timing suspicious. they technically came hours
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after he was declared dead. do we know when dr. murray discovered his famous patient was in distress that morning. isn't it unlikely these three women who fork for the doctor paid a visit the day he was in his care. >> this is going to be another nail in this man's coffin. it is persuasive evidence of consciousness of guilt. if you line this up this is 100 percent factual it shows it was trying to conceal fast evidence he was ultimately convicted in this case. the fact that he got that warrant was executed a judge signed off on it shows they have evidence that can put him behind bars. >> come mission you have to ask him why did you take them then? >> they said because it was neglect conduct the week after jackson died. talked about it on this show.
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something in those boxes something in that storage facility that they took out. >> all right. let me bring on board now the famed criminal defense attorney mark geragos who once represented michael jackson. he joins us from the coast this evening. can you put any other spin on it in your -- wear your hat as a defense counsel as you do so well, mark. is it possible explanation that does not include this? >> is it a company he knows k - owe insura coincidence. they will go to the two women and tell them you cooperate tell us what it was tell you who had you go over there. if they don't say he ordered them to take the documents out of there or destroyed documents it's not incriminating other
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than a coincidence. if you are the doctor you are going to say look at the 911 call look at the timing of it, it doesn't add up. those are the things you look for. >> you worry in that who knows when michael jackson went into extreme who knows there were no witnesses and surveillance cameras. >> the problem for the defense in this case obviously everybody is speculating but there was a lapse of time from when he was discovered and the 911 call was made. a doctor was given at least 3 hours worth of interviews he was missing in action. there were records at an address at a location that is rarely accessed. all of those things combined with the search warrant it says manslaught manslaughter. this la county da's office
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frequently not only file manslaughter but implied malice murder. if i was a doctor he would be able as well. >> that's what we talked about implied knowledge and second degree charge. they could have it if they show it shows complete disregard for human safety which would be this particular case. it is true he gave that medication which you have no business administering in someone's personal residence let alone to get somebody to go to sleep. >> let's understand something what's happening in california there are cases where the da filed second degree murder in vehicle accidents where somebody is not dui where they had traffic school before and they should have known better. if they think they can file and get convictions of second degree murder in nondui cases this is a nonbrainer.
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>> back live everybody. one of the contributing factors
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from jackson's premature death is isolation with long time friends even his own family. one of the shadowy figures filling the vacuum and among other things getting michael to agree to the impossible series of 50 concerts he could never have done is merchandise ill eastern doctor turned financial advisor named tumi toumi admitting he held millions of dollars of his money. >> geraldo we are at the toumi residents in los angeles. this is his sprawling mansion. as you know the doctor recently turned 5 and a half million dollars into jackson's estate claiming it was money that was a secret between him and michael jackson money that was for a las vegas home. you wonder what other mysterious money might be out there. >> his controversial sister la toya went public with her concerns about her late brother's finances even going so
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far as to state he may have been the victim of foul play. >> doctor, i just wanted to talk to him. he is not there? >> no. >> there is a substantial amount of tangible personal property not necessarily from the same person were also turned in. attorney shawn bronca and muse he can executive john mcclaine say his estimated net worth a $5 million. they are bringing in 10's of millions more. jackson aired a delicate dance for controlling between administrators and the jackson family continues. >> the latest news in the jackson legacy is that the home where michael jackson died here is planned to be sold to the owner co founder of ed harvey
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clothing he rented the estate to michael jackson for 1-thousand a month he is now saying i am buying this mansion to make it a permanent memorial to michael jackson. the clothing designer also stated he intends to purchase neverland and turn it it into a theme park. he bought the california ranch in 2008 for $32 million. expect to net 95 million for the sale. the french designer plans to release a michael jackson clothing line based on costumes he designed in the 02 tour in london that jackson was preparing for when he died. >> craig joining me live in l.a. that's usually about the property and money. i want to go back to the timing of death and how long michael jackson may have been dead the 911 call wa was made and emt arrived at the house. what do you know about the doctor administering cpr or
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whether or not that was real? >> we looked to doctors yesterday and he said he was told directly by family members that conrad murray had stopped cpr and brought chris michael into the room to show him he was trying to revive him. i think he was trying to set up the fact that michael still had a pulse and he was trying to save his father. obviously the timing is in question. we have heard for weeks michael didn't have a pulse when they got to the home. >> craig thanks. commissioner? >> this is why the tapes are missing. >> they are missing? >> at this point the surveillance tapes are missing. we want to find out who removed them. >> here is one of the orders in the court. this is they are asking -- there
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are four books. they are asking the court add men straight tore to make all kinds of deals worth 10's of millions of dollars. leonard lee the state attorney for anna nicole smith. let me ask you this, catherine jackson is angry that michael jackson appointed two co executors that she did not control. the will says if catherine jackson challenges the will or could potentially lose 50 percent -- 40 percent of the trust. that's a big clause. you think she will take that leap or can they work it out am mickbly. i think it's the trust that sets that. if she has a reasonable attack on the will the judge will accept that. she hz a right to say it was undue influence or test for the capacity or some impropriety.
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we have move where he was also a witness to the will and executor to the trustee. >> i do not think he was a witness. any pressure nan lawmaker is don't be a -- who is the executor of anna nicole's state? >> howard k. stern. >> he gets paid from the estate? >> we are talking a lot of dough here. a lot of bread. the attorney they trussed tried to first fiend a family member to run the estate. >> be the executor. now the bronco on the name of the will. the will of public record. trust you may never see that trust. i have been trying to find that trust. you may never see that trust. what happens is baracko becomes
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a partner of the jackson estate. he gets maybe 3 percent sliding scale plus he will get our late fee. >> howard j. stern? >> stern will appear before the probate judge in texas. the attorney for that case they come in front of the judge and the judge will be giving them attorney's fees. bronca and the other two parties they are going to be partners with the jackson estate. they are going to get a lot of dough out of this and they have the power. that's what catherine jackson is worried about. they have the power to make the deal, to beat them to neverland and all of the other issues. >> you saw this video of a violent confrontation and oklahoma state trooper and paramedics. the trooper, the guy who is choking the paramedics it was
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>> back live it was caught on tape back in may 2009 national uproar okay owing state trooper roughering up an ambulance driver. all the while there was a patient in the ambulance who needed to be rushed to the the highway patrol issued its ruling on the cop's conduct that was videotaped saying while the traffic stop was justified the trooper's language, demeanor were way out of line. get this. he only received a five day suspension in an at large exclusive i am joined by maurice white the paramedic on tape and his attorney. we are joined by the trooper's attorney gary james. how upset are you with the sentence that the trooper
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received? >> i think it's fair to say i am profoundly upset and profoundly disappointed not only in the sentence but it seems commissioner of public safety and governor brad henry goes along with this. i am profoundly disappointed in a nutshell. >> i think it's very understandable in many ways, maurice. would you if the trooper -- in the spirit of conciliation the president is trying to broken in cambridge would you accept an apology from this trooper? can we work this out and get along, maurice? >> in that situation i would say no because these situations are completely different on this hand you do have someone who demonstrated psychological deficiencies. obviously this fellow according to the department has psychological problems that need
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to be dealt with the commissioner and governor are trying to sweep under the rug. >> let me ask gary james attorney for the trooper. what do you respond? you know the tape makes your client look out of control and filled with rage. are we missing something? >> first i would comment that there was no psychological problems. he has been assessed by psychological health professional he has no psychological problems. the actions of mr. white's driver is what prompted this to happen. people are discounting the finger the gesture made by mr. frank. >> the passenger in the ambulance, there was another guy there, you see that other guy flipped a bird to your client? >> yes. what concerned the trooper was they hadn't pulled over for him there is a report out by the
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deputy sheriff they failed to yield to him also when he was in route to this situation. >> they were in an ambulance going to a hospital. >> i understand that. but under oklahoma law the state department of health rules and title 47 which is oklahoma vehicle code, if they are not flashing red sirens they have no exceptions at all. >> maurice you get the last word. >> well the last word is that i am very grateful for the dell against of ron wilson and fox news and i am still profoundly disappointed in our local media they have not followed all of the angles and particularly the slap on the wrest. where are our local politicians who are sworn to protect and serve. i think this trooper is a danger. >> i got you, maurice white. gary james. i want to thank you very much for watching.
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