necessary, and the american people know that a sacrifice is ok if we can control of things. sean: that is all the time we have left this evening. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues with greta nexgen we will see you back here tomorrow night. greta? greta: governor arnold schwarzenegger, the terminator, is here. he is locked in a bloody budget battle, and he will tell you whether he wishes he could win for printing run for president. which republican contender inspires in the most? -- whether he wishes he could run for president? republican national chairman michael steele is here, and later, the arrest of harvard professor henry gates. the good samaritan who called 911 at the scene near the in the

harvard university. is the woman a racist? you will hear directly from the woman. but first, we are live in los angeles, and what proved to sit down with governor arnold schwarzenegger. we will be in his private santa monica office, but meanwhile, california on the brink of calamity. he has just signed the state budget, and now, some state democrats are in a rage with him for taking out the vita pen and splicing millions more. governor, good to see you -- taking out the veto pen. you have got the democrats mad at you. what are they mad at you? >> well, actually, when we did the budget, they were happy with me, but what they did is they gave me a budget that was not balanced and did not have a reserve, and there were people that said they would never sign

a budget that did not have a reserve or was balance the budget was not balanced, so we were willing to make the tough decisions in order to create a reserve. i had to make the tough decisions, which i was more than happy to do, even though it was very tough, because we have to have a reserve. we have fires and earthquakes in this state. if we did not have a reserve, it would be totally irresponsible, so i think it is important for the people to know that we did not have any reserve, and that is what i had to make the cuts. greta: the good, bad, and the ugly. i take it you have no entwinement in making the cuts? >> -- you have no enjoyment. >> this is the greatest job, and the most challenging job. it is a lot of fun, but there are moments, of course, when the economy goes down, and their revenues go down, where it gets to be very tough, -- and the

revenues go down, or if it's very tough, and u.s. sleepless nights because you are concerned about the cuts you have to make -- or it gets very tough, and you have sleepless nights. if you do not have the money, that is what you have to do. you have to make tough decisions, and that is what we have had to do for these last two years, make cuts, cuts, cuts, and bring the spending in line with revenues. greta: i know every state is having a tough time, and i read about one state this morning that is thinking of selling one of its office buildings because of financial problems. why does california seem to have a particularly big problem compared to other states, or is it just because california is such a big state? >> well, i think, in general, california is more exaggerated about everything, about the good things, but also about the bad things. princetons, in this case, we do

not only have a lack of revenues because the economy went down, but we also have an outdated tax system that relies on a 1% of the rich people paying 50% of the taxes. it is always very popular to paul hill is on the rich and say the rich pay more taxes -- it is always very popular tunes -- to pile on the rich. they take a major hit when wall street takes a hit, so this is why we had a loss of revenues of 20% last year and 22% this year, so is 42%, and that is huge. other states do not have this. $60 billion in losses. this is $60 billion, just to give you an example, there is no state in the union that even has that as a budget, the whole budget, so those are the kinds of cuts that we have to make to deal with in just these last five months.

so the budget is outdated, the tax system is outdated. we have an initiative process that needs to be overhauled and kind of brought up to date, because anyone can go on a ballot and bring up a bill and asked the state to pay $5 million a year, and we have to pay for it. there are a lot of things like that that you have to really modernize. you need to have two thirds of the vote, which other states do not have. there are a lot of difficult things in our state, and now, the key thing is to use this downturn in the economy and the kind of losses in revenues to as an opportunity and to reform all of those systems as quickly as possible so it does not happen again. i have tried to do this for the last five years, may i remind you, but i was not successful. i tried it three people with initiative, and they voted it down but they spent hundreds of

millions of dollars against it. and i tried it three legislature, and it did not work. but it gives us a good opportunity to make changes now -- and i tried it through the legislature, and it did not work. greta: let me give you a different magic wands. let me give you a magic want to structurally change california. what would be the structural changes he would make if you had no resistance -- you would make? >> number one, i would change the tax structure, the tax system. greta: to what? >> to make it less volatile and to make it more event so we rely on a bunch of different taxes and not to just rely on rich people pay the taxes, going and sprinkling of the irresponsibility of tax revenues of around so you do not rely on one thing -- sprinkle in viet responsibility. that is number one.

-- sprinkling deep responsibility -- the responsibility. also, we need a rainy day fund, so we can immediately drawdown from the rainy day fund. i think we need a spending cap. -- so we can immediately drawing down from the rainy day fund. -- draw down. this will be a good thing to keep around. some people think it should be lower, but i think even if you are at 5%, you will dig out the times when you have a 13% or more increase. you have to get the extra revenues to put in the rainy day fund, so in the process, i would also change that so that we do not bring up such a huge debt also and also deficits by people just piling on and going be initiative route making the

taxpayers spend the money -- calling the initiative route. -- going that route. greta: from a revenue standpoint, is the money there to tax the rich? is that a problem, taxing the rich? despite the fairness issue. >> it does not have as much to do with the rich complaining, because you see a lot of rich people moving out of the state and taking the money out of the state. greta: that is a protest. >> which people are not running around, complaining. -- rich people are not running around complaining. it is volatile. the revenues are not based on which people just on their economic activities in california -- on rich people. it is also based on wall street.

as soon as wall street takes a dive, we also take a dive with our revenues. we cannot continue to have very important programs like education and health care, prison, law enforcement, others go under the rollercoaster. when there is a drop of 10%, you cannot run a business this way. you could not run a family that way, and you cannot run a state this way, so that is what makes us very vulnerable, and this is what we have that much more of a decrease than other states, because we have this tax system and also know rainy day fund. greta: leaving you to make the cuts when they left town, did they realize they were giving you this problem? they knew this was coming. >> they realized it, and what happens a lot of times is legislators come to be all of the time, and they say, "look. we are a bunch of kids. you have to be grown up your." that is the way it is.

they were not willing to take the additional cuts -- you have to be grown up your." they were not willing to take the extra steps -- the grown-up here." they gave me a budget that was vastly in the hole. i had to make $656 million in cuts and other maneuvers so we would have the reserve. greta: coming up, does governor schwarzenegger want to run for president, and what are his plans for after he leaves office? much more with the governor, next. and coming up, republicans on national chairman michael steele is here. -- republican national chairman michael steele is here.

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fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- greta: more with governor arnold schwarzenegger. they leave town. you have now got to cut things. "the l.a. times" talk about you are cutting it from children, aids victims, people who really need help. that is what you wake up to, so what is the attraction with the job? >> like i said, this is a job that i enjoy tremendously, especially in the good times. even though now, as i said earlier, i have sleepless nights many times when you have this kind of a budget disaster and this kind of a lack in revenues and when you have to make this kind of severe cutting, because you know it is not just the ledger sheets and the books that reflect it, but it is people beyond that. there are kids that need this kind of health care. there are children that need

education. there are kids struggling to get into universities now. , all of these things have a tremendous effect, and we all know that, but if you have no money, then you have to make those cuts, so the legislators have given me the responsibility by just leaving town. they left town. there indication. and they handed me this kind of a budget, so i had to make these kinds of decisions, and i always knew when i took this job that there would be times that would be joyful and where the economy would go well, and there would also be times when the economy would be tough. at my swearing in ceremony in sacramento, the past governors came up to me and said, "enjoy this day, arnold." and i said, "why are you saying it that way?" and they said, "it is the most

enjoyable day, because after this, it goes downhill. you're going to funerals of policeman shot in the street and a fireman who have lost their lives because of fighting fires. you will be dealing with budget deficits and the protesters and all kinds of things," and that is exactly what happens, but i always like to take on challenges. it does not make me enjoy the job any less. i am very much aware of riding out the bad times and enjoying the good times. greta: how about the video with the knife? you got a lot of backlash for that. >> with a budget like this, i'm obviously do not sit there with my sword -- i obviously do not sit there with my sword, or with grenades or anything, but when you do twittering, you want to give people the idea that this

is a different thing than what they see on television. they see behind-the-scenes. they see me without the jacket, without a tie on. they see me casual. they see me at the desk, playing around. one of them was with the knife that i just got as a gift from somebody. it is also my personality and my sense of humor because i came from a background where i was always a little bit over the top, and i think that is why they sent me to to the government it, to do that. there are personalities involved in that are also very stiff, so i am bringing life to the whole job. greta: you are not constitutionally eligible, at least at this point, to be president. would you like to do that? >> yes, i would have gone in that direction eventually, because i always shoot for the top. that is just me.

i have enjoyed this job, even though we had difficult moments, because it is a rewarding to do something that is more about something bigger than you, you know, to solve problems out there and to take care of the state and to take care of the country and the world, so it is a challenging job, a wonderful job. i think it is great to have this kind of personality and trust in the people and give something back to the community and to the country, but i cannot do that, and that is ok. greta: but you would like it? >> i look at it as everything that i have accomplished in my life is because of america. i mean, there is nowhere in the world where i would have even had a 10% of the success that i have had in america, if i had gone to france or germany or austria or china or the middle east or africa, wherever, nowhere in the world could i

have had the success, so i think my body building career, my acting career, business, the millions of dollars i have made, becoming governor, my family, everything is because of america, so i am not going to dwell on this one little thing that i cannot do, which is to run for president. "oh, is this not terrible? i cannot run for president." no, i love this country, and it is a whole package. greta: if by any chance the rules change, when you think about it? >> yes, i am said that several times. i always like to shoot for the top -- would you think about it? it is not something i have to think about now, because i do not think it will happen in my lifetime that we would change the constitution. as long as there is someone around to and that would go into the race, they would not go for it.

-- as long as there is someone around that would go into the race. outside of john mccain, all of the once said they were not for changing the constitution. and john mccain said," governor is sitting down there, and i am not about to say no to him, because he would crush me" -- john mccain said," governor is sitting down there." -- said, "the governor is sitting down there." greta: and a body builder before entering politics. up next, a rare look at his office, movie memorabilia. plus, is his next job cable news? gas and he has suggested for his co-anchor -- dennis koji as

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greta: more with california governor arnold schwarzenegger. what politician has inspired you the most or that you like to read about or talk about the

most? >> we have that great, great leaders in the past, from lincoln to teddy roosevelt and ronald reagan and so on, but i tell you, the guy who is today very innovative is newt gingrich. you know, he may be is not the most attractive guy for running for office -- he maybe is not the most attractive, because we look for the young, new got on the block, but he is the one with the most substance -- a new guy on the block. he has ideas about how to have a government run more efficiently, getting out the fraud and abuse and the government. as you mentioned earlier, health care. when we do health-care reform, we have to think about how to remake health-care reform more cost-effective? how do we not do the usual things we're repays such extraordinary amounts of money

for health care? how do we insure everybody -- how do we not do the usual things with such extraordinary amounts of money for health care? loron and the body fat, -- lowering the body fat. people can participate by it changing their lifestyle. -- by changing their lifestyle. >> is a new health care that are talking about on health care, is this something you worry about for your state in terms of the cost -- is the new health care that they are talking about, is that something you worry about for your state? >> a very important player in the discussion, because they are the ones that have a lot of

ideas about how to make things more cost-effective and efficient. greta: this over my left shoulder. who is this? >> this was in the middle of my heart surgery. no. this is from "terminator." this was created by one of the great special effects make a designers, and they have won four academy awards -- special effects of make-up designers -- special effects make-up designers. this is from "predator." this is the predator, and this is mr. freeze from "batman and robin." greta: it is a context sports, is it not, politics? >> yes, but you cannot complain

about it. i could not say when i read the paper, "could you believe "the l.a. times" is writing this?" it is all part of the job. the job is a very tough job, and you have got to have a thick skin, and if there is one thing i have always been good at in my life and what i have been successful and a lot of different things is i never did concerned about those kind of things. what concerns me is just what is my vision? where do i want to go? and to get there, it does not matter what it takes to get there. i would do anything and everything to get there, because it is all about the hard worked -- work and the struggle. there is no easy way out. every job comes with those kinds of things, and this job has that side. you get attacked by the media.

you get attacked by the opposition. in the end, the joy comes when you can move this date forward, reform the systems that have been broken, -- when you can move the state forward. that is when the real joy comes in. greta: and i see there are a lot of things here that do not come easy. a lot of trophies. >> power lifting, body building, film awards, the television awards, and all of those kinds of things. and also awards for public service and for the work in an after-school programs, -- mort and after-school programs, special olympics. -- working in after-school programs -- work in after-school programs. i won five times the mr. universe contest, mr. olympia

seven times. this is all about that. greta: so what is your next act? you are going to get term limits it out in 2010? -- term limited out? >> doing things that will help the environment and help the state and the country in one way or another, and then, i really have not focused on what i would do next, because if i do a good job with what i am doing now, there will be all kinds of opportunities available. i mean, the amount of offers that i have been getting from doing more movies to being involved in businesses, writing books -- there are just so many -- whining foundations, getting involved in international things with environmental issues -- running foundations. there are many challenges available. so i am looking forward to it, but i am not thinking about it,

because there is so much work that needs to be done in the states. greta: i hope you are not talking about television news/talk show. we could cohosts. i am date for that. i am game for that. -- we could co-host. i am game for that. steve is joining us. and congress cannot use the excuse that the dog ate the bill. they just did it to themselves. you will find out why. michael steele is next. ( chirp ) team three, boathouse? ( chirp ) oh yeah. his and hers. - ( crowd gasps ) - ( chirp ) van gogh? ( chirp ) even steven. - ( chirp ) mansion? - ( chirp ) good to go. ( grunts ) timber! ( chirp ) boss? what do we do with the shih-tzu?

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we will not even vote on it probably until the end of september or the middle of october. we are just trying to get all of these different bills out of committee, so that means that anyone of the senators, if they want to take this bill, with them during august recess, they would have more than enough time to read it. i just got everyone to know that congress will have time to read the bill. they will have time to debate the bill. they will have all of august to review the various legislative proposals. when we come back in september, i will be available to answer any question that members of congress ask. if they want to come over to the white house and go over a line by line with what is going on, i will be happy to do that. greta: perhaps we should give them and "on the record" pop

quiz before they vote on it? -- an "on the record" quiz. the negotiations agree to cut billions of dollars from the bill, reducing the employer- mandate option. this all-important deal paves the way for the house to vote on the deal in september, october. will these concessions get any republicans on board, too? republican national chairman michael steele joins us. welcome, chairman. the president says if the members of congress want to take it home and read it, they have enough time. "if"? do we not expect them to take it home and read it? or is this just going to be blind voting? >> greta, i am stunned. i am stunned to see the

president's saying, "of course, they will have time to rebuild. they have all of august and part of september." excuse me, mr. president. you were the one you wanted to get this signed -- "of course, they will have time to read it. they have all of august and part of september." wait a minute. you were the one you wanted to rush this thing along and have it signed by the august recess, so do not give me this. your agenda was to push this bill down the throats of the congress, to push this bill down the throat of the american people, and the american people are standing up and say, "no. read the bill. slow down. take time." this would never been a very different bill this week is the president had had his way. -- this would have been a very different bill. the fact that the president has

not read the bill tell as you about the seriousness of this debate, and until -- has not read the bill tells you about the seriousness of this debate. the american people should view them all suspiciously. greta: we are having a beer summit, and i will talk about that later, maybe not with you, but the beer summit is tomorrow night, but if you look at what the president said, he was singing we could have a reading summit in september, because he said he would invite them over to the white house to read it line by line by line -- he was saying we could have a reading summit. at least now we know. the reading summit will start. >> the reading summit will start, and i hope there is no beer is being served so that when they read it, they will

understand it. the american people are crying out for serious actors in this thing. politics of it is too much to be told, and at the end of the day, they had the blue dogs come out and try to make us feel so warm and fuzzy that they had eked out a compromise. what compromise? the only thing they of compromise is themselves. they have dealt with nancy pelosi and the president -- the only thing they have compromised is themselves. somebody is currently has health care with a high potential of losing their health care. the fact is, the lap dogs may be dancing, but the american people should be in been concerned about this administration and the direction that they want to take this country -- but the american people should be concerned about the direction this the administration wants to take the country in. greta: do you anticipate that

any of those modifications that the conservative democrats have now agreed to will peel off some republicans who were not otherwise likely to vote for the health-care reform? >> well, that is a fair question, and it remains to be seen exactly what the compromise is. you can compromise a lot of things and still not deal with the meat of the problem. i want to hear what the compromise is. i want to know what the tax consequences are, what the spending consequences are, and it is the government wants to put itself between me and my doctor and between my daughter and the insurance companies. i want to know what that relationship is going to look like, and once it is all done, employers will offload their employees to a public plan because it is cheaper for them because the government has come in and competed with them in the markets and undercut their ability to provide that service. there are a lot of questions that have not been answered, and

i think it is time for us to stop this," oh, g-8, come on over, and we will have a reading session -- stop this, "oh, gee, come on over, and we will have a reading summit." they were barking about how bad the bill was a few weeks ago, and they have now found religion at the heels of nancy pelosi and our saying, "yes, we have to work aout a compromise." greta: thank you, sir. up next, just saving $300 trillion by identifying unused things. -- $320,000. unused telephone lines. there is more. wait until you hear what else you have been paying for. karl, don't you have friends coming over?

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>> welcome, everybody. i am uma pemmaraju. oil profits may be hurt by a punitive charge stemming from a 1989 valdez oil spill for exxonmobil, but there are still expected to report earnings of $1 per share, on revenues exceeding $70 billion. more predictions expected tomorrow for the housing market, namely fannie mae and freddie mac pre-empt james marquard will address the national press club in washington -- fannie mae and freddie mac. james lockhart will address the national press club. analysts are predicting new jobless claims for the week, and that means some 570,000 americans are now collecting unemployment. i am uma pemmaraju. now, back to "on the record."

greta: bad news for the agriculture department. the trip is off. they had to cancel a meeting in, ready for this, australia. yes, your government had planned a meeting in australia, as far away and as expensive as it can get. they were going to spend all of that money to go halfway around the world. and there is more. in the office of thrift supervision, they are saving $320,000 cash by identifying unused telephone lines, and there is more. homeland security will save thousands of dollars by emailing documents instead of printing them out. president obama's cabinet was meeting a challenge said in april. that is a lot of money, but think of this. it is just 0.006% of the deficit. plus, why did no one think of these cuts before? -- was meeting a challenge said

in april. steve moore with "the wall street journal" joins us. go ahead. tell me what you think about this. i am speechless. >> i am, too, and this is the fiscal responsibility that we heard about from the obama administration. you mentioned some of these. let me just mention a couple of others. departments are going to save thousands of dollars, greta, by turning off the lights and on the weekend. you may have thought they would have thought of that before. greta: and this goes back. this is not just the obama administration. the unused telephone lines, they did not come into office on january 20 to an order $300,000 of unused telephone lines. this has been going on -- they did not come into office on january 20 and order $300,000 of unused telephone lines. >> one of my favorites is

$130,000 in savings with the department, risked by not redecorating their offices. -- with the department of finance not redecorating their offices. think about this. we have a huge trillion dollar deficit, and the only savings these departments could find was $100 million. this would be the equivalent if i owe you $1,000, greta, and i said, "would you take this nickel?" you just talked to governor arnold schwarzenegger. he went through the budget and cut 20% -- you just talked to him. lots of americans know that a lot of the money they sent to washington is wasted, and these guys cannot find any of the waste. greta: there are two issues. one is the spending. i realize it does not seem like a lot of money that is being spent, but when you think the

justice department is now going to save $4 million next year making travel arrangements online, i mean, what took them so long for that one? we have got two standing problems. one is that we really cannot get our government under control and are spending, but this is just bizarre. why are we sending the department of agriculture to australia for a meeting? they can videoconference or get a conference room in washington. >> the department of education, st. so they. they say they will save $30,000 by having things in their conference room -- the department of education, same fate. the government has become so big, and these agencies -- same thing. they have become so flush with cash because of the stimulus money, they do not feel they have to save money. we feel that we can go spend a lot of money. most americans right now are talking in their stomachs,

tightening their belts, cutting back on family finances. that is not happening in the government, and that is why we have a larger deficit than the deposition of the last 20 years, and dollars trillion. greta: who would think that the social security administration dance-orama not look so bad once the part of agriculture wants to go to australia. -- once the department of agriculture was to go to australia. there was national controversy with professor gates. at the woman who made the 911 call had this to say. >> -- and the woman had this to say. >> i was called a racist, and i was a target of scorn and ridicule because of the things i never said.

the criticism hurts me as a person -- hurt me as a person, but it also courted the community of cambridge. now that the tapes are out, i hope people can see that i tried to be careful and honest with my words. it never occurred to me that the way i reported what i saw would be analyzed by an entire nation. greta: present obama has invited professor gates an officer crowley to the white house. their beer summit will be tomorrow night, and each are drinking a different beer. we have something for you in

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