>> jamie: i'm jamie colby. the news continues now with shannon bream live from washington. wishing you a great day. thank you for joining us. >> eric: take care. >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. crash above the hudson. photographs, exclusive to fox news, show the tragic moment when a single engine airplane collided with a tour helicopter sending them both plummeting to the hudson river below. nine people are feared dead. ongoing investigation continues to unveil brand new information about just what happened. good afternoon from washington. i'm shannon bream. we continue to follow the news from new york where the airplane went down 24 hours ago. laura ingle on the jersey side of the hudson river. what can you tell us about the latest efforts there?

>> we have watched the divers all morning long and i learned family members of the helicopter pilot are across the river in new york city at the medical examiner's office. they have the grim task of identifying their loved one. other family members of the other victims have been there as well and we understand that the italian tourists, family members of the italian tourist at the medical examiner's office last night as well. five bodies in our count have been pulled from the river where the two aircraft collided in the spectacular crash seen by hundreds of tourists and onlookers. we have shown the dramatic photos that were some of the firsthand account photos coming from -- exclusive to fox, that really tells the tale of the fixed-wing small plane losing its wing and tangling with a tour helicopter filled with the italian tourists. the recovery operation has been steady all morning long with divers plunging in the fast-moving waters. they are being directed by a river expert from steven's

institute. the nearby college here with a keen eye of what is going on in the river. he has been helping them to keep in mind what is happening with the current and the undertow. a live look to step out of the camera for what we're monitoring. the blue and white police boat is the staging boat on the water. to the right, not sure if you see it. the yellow and black boat that's hovering and going back and forth all day long has a crane on it. when it's time and the time we're told will be soon the crane will submerge under water with a hook and go down and l aso the helicopter we're told is upside down in the silt on the bottom of the hudson river and they'll extract the helicopter. the search is still on for the small aircraft. we were told a short while ago we believe the aircraft is upstream a little bit. the sonar is used to find that.

the investigator will piece together more parts to the puzzle that nobody can answer exactly why it happened. people are being interviewinter. investigators have been at teterboro interviewing people at that airport and the liberty tour heli-pad where it took place yesterday. back to yyou. >> shannon: laura ingle. thank you. joining with us more is the spokesman for aircraft owner and pilot association representing a half million general aviation pilots and he can give us perspective. thank you for coming in. till us about the situation over the hudson rison river. it's unique place to travel for aircraft. >> it's a narrow corridor but the rules for operating are clearly defined on the aviation chart. basically it's treated like a road. if you go north, you stay on the right-hand side on the eastern side toward

manhattan. if you go south, stay right for you along the new jersey shore. stay over the river. there is a frequency that's published on the charts. the pilots talk to each other. >> shannon: but do i thumbs is not a situation you file a flight plan and in constant communication with the tower. this is like travelling a highway? communication with other pilots only? >> it is. you fly under visual flight rules. under vise wall flight rule -- visual flight rulous're not required to file a flight plan. it primarily have to do with visibility. it's got to be good weather to fly under the visual flight rules. it eases the traffic burden, the radio traffic on your traffic controller controllers s focus on the primary responsibility in new york city area, getting the airliners down safely at

newark, kennedy and laguardia. >> shannon: does this system generally work very well? are you surprised we don't see more accidents in the type of corridors? >> i'm not surprised. it does work extremely well. the pilot s a pilots are used t concept of seeing the void. it's an efficient system. it allows a lot more air traffic than if every flight had to talk to a controller every time it went up. think about driving to the drugstore and having to call the police and tell them where you are along the way. >> shannon: the whole route. with small aircraft like this, do they know whether we would have had something like a black box? >> it's not required. many manufacturers are beginning to put them in. some sort of reporting device. they're not as robust as what you would find on the airliner. they are only mandated for the airlinairliner. possible that the aircraft

had a recording device. both were somewhat older. the fixed wing so it's not likely but it's possible. >> shannon: maybe a source of information if they did indeed have them. thank you. appreciate it. we're watching to see if we have a press conference from the ntsb later today. we will find out more and take you there live if it happens. this afternoon, northwest airline flight carrying 153 people this morning had a scare. the plane's engine blew out shortly after taking off from ra raleigh/durham international airport. the passengers heard a loud boom and then the pilot reported that the engeneral had blown. the plane turned around and made emergency landing in 20 minutes. done well and no injuries reported. developing news in east asia where an earthquake shaken tokyo. the japan meteorological agency said it had preliminary measurement of 7.1. no immediate reports of damage or injuries from the

tremor which struck before 8:00 p.m. local time last night. experts say they don't there is danger of result resulting tsunami. inmates at chino state prison, inmates began rioting spreading unrest to six units in the same prison. at one point flames could be seen from outside the prison walls. take a look. it houses 1300 inmates. wildfires in california burned nearly 1,000 acres in land in a remote part of santa clara county, it's east of santa maria off 166. despite the thick smoke, no report of injury or property damage. well, severe storms in plymouth minnesota, left residents without power. locals say the sirens went off and the temperature drop and the storm roared in like a freight train.

it only lasted 30 second but the clean-up will take longer than that. there were no injuries reported. more storms could be in storm for the midwest today and serious heat is heading into the northeast. meteorologist rick reichmuth is at the fox weather center with the forecast. how does it look, rick? s>> hot and stormy across the plains. this is a line where the cold front is. 72 in new york. enjoy it, because the warm air is headed that way as the heat moves on. the heat is a major factor. it's humid with this. this is feel-good temperature. 11:00 in the morning, 94 in chicago. and 98 in st. louis. extreme heat stretches across the area. we have two severe thunderstorm watches in effect. i believe this cell in iowa with a tornado warning on it

as well. a big concern for storms this afternoon. the other thing we're watching is a tropics. this is hurricane felicia. beginning to die down in intensity, which is what we forecasted. it will continue to do so. but by monday and tuesday morning, around 35 miles per hour or 40-mile-per-hour storm affecting the hawaiian islands. mostly just bringing beneficial rain, actually. one thing quickly out across the atlantic. no storms yet for any kind of tropical activity this year in the atlantic. but we have one that is looking suspicious off the coast of africa. it could be the first storm. if it does, it would be anna. >> shannon: thank you. we'll check back in shortly. congress may be on recess, but the healthcare debate rages on, as members of congress hold heated healthcare town halls across the country. caroline shively has the latest on the healthcare reform debate. hi, caroline. >> hi to you. people are packing in the town halls all across the country and plenty are anger.

this is the example of two and the first is in washington state and the second in iowa. >> public option at the leas least. [ crowd reacting ] >> i thought i'd be he canled by -- heckled by the right. i'm heckled by the left. >> this is something in germany! >> i think when people get the right information, and they know what we're trying to do and how it will wash out, i'm not saying that 100% of the people will be for it, but the vast majority of the american people will see it as good thing to change the system we have. >> the last person speaking was senator tom harken in iowa. he said some people were using, "scare tactics, misinformation and obstructi obstruction." he called it a nationally coordinated effort to disrupt the meetings. that is how many of them are fighting back, rounding out

and getting people to the meeting to encourage them to be rowdy and rude. the republican party says it's not them. here is mitch mcconnell talking to chris wallace on "fox news sunday." >> i suspect that a lot of these people, chris, who have come to the meetings are elderly people who are concerned about half a trillion cut in medicare to pay, not to make medicare sustainable but start a new program for other citizens. >> some members of congress turned the town halls to virtual meetings done over the phone. washington state member said he got a death threat on friday. others say there were uniformed officers posted around the room. >> trying to keep a law in order. it has been a challenging month for democrats. senator watson will hold the

healthcare town mall meetings that week and is doing it by phone. thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure. >> we're trying to make contact with her. can you hear us? >> i can hear you. >> shannon: thank you for your time. tell us about your town hall meeting this week and why you're doing it via phone? >> we can then get in possibly 40,000 households in the 33rd consial district. that's los angeles, hollywood and culver city. we can control better using the phone than you can with the public town hall. as you have been showing your viewers there have been mops going and shouting down the speaker. this way we have questions come in and we can respond and we hope to reach as many households in the district as

possible. >> you refer to the video and to the groups as mobs. can you accept the possibility there may be people on their own so angry and frustrated about the debate they would come unprompted to express their own concerns? do you think it's a possibility? >> you have to have order. everyone has a right to be heard. we want to give out as much information out as fact as we can. those who come with the expressed purpose of disrupting and now allowing the audience to hear the responses, you do a pour service for the public. what we want to do is go on the phone and have the people raise their questions and have those of us on our end respond. >> is it your position that all of the folks showing up

who are shouting and taking signs and those things -- we have people on both sides. do you expect that's a grass root organization or movement or do you think that this is entirely scripted? >> i am not saying it's a grass root scripted response. but i have seen anger and hostility. if you want information, then why don't you in an orderly fashion raise your question? if you spread in an argumentative way and you're yelling, and you're impacting on others, then you are not serious about getting answers. you've seen it. you show it on the television shows. it's upsetting for those of us trying to impart the facts. >> shannon: we thank you for

your time and wish you the best with the town hall this week. and that you have a good productive discussion. >> hope you tune in. >> shannon: thank you. kennedy family is rallying to the side of eunice kennedy shriver. schwarzenegger and maria shriver were at her side. we'll update you more as we get information on her condition. one of the country's chief of the taliban movie has been killed. if true, the rival between would lend credence to the claim that the leader was killed in a c.i.a. missile strike on wednesday as the pakistani authorities have claimed. general jim jones s talked about the fate. and that interview is tonight

at 6:00 p.m. eastern time on the fox news channel. president obama travels to me mexico and we look at the critical issues on the agenda to impact the u.s. mexican relations. hi, steve. >> it's likely that the drug cartel is a key item on the agenda. it's not a war if you look at the numbers but it's dwarfed anything in afghanistan and pakistan right now. 28 people killed in the last 48 hours. if you go back 18 months -- >> shannon: we'll check back with steve in a little bit. we're having technical difficulties. we'll get a better connection and check in for a preview of the president's visit to mexico. hillary clinton arrived in oil-rich angola this morning as she continues her visit to africa. she met with the president and the officials to discuss greater operation.

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s>> shannon: topping the news right now, more bodies have been rekoovred in a hudson river, as authorities try to determine what caused a mid-air solution there on saturday. a site-seeing helicopter in a small plane crashed to the

river. nine people are presumed dead. deadly police chase in danuba, california, ended with the death of seven people including four children. police say they were trying to stop the driver of the car for a minor traffic infraction. president obama headed south of the border for a two-day summit with leaders from canada and mexico. they're expecting to talk about the trade, immigration and drug trafficking. as well as clean energy issues. >> what appears to form along the party line regarding women and political involvement. study conducted for center for american women and politics found since 1995, the percentage of women in the republican caucuses, state legislatures have been decreasing. in democratic caucuses the percentage has been rising. in 1995, the number of republican women in state legislature, 19.1%. that is down to 15.8% today.

for the democrats the number was 21.2% in 1995. that increased in 2009 to 31%. let's talk about one of the prominent women involved in politics recently was sarah palin. she was thrust in the white hot spotlight that many perspective candidates are now maybe a little apprehensive about. may not want to get into office. as republicans struck to revamp the party, where the women to look at now? joining us former chair of the virginia g.o.p., kate, thank you for coming in. before we get to sarah palin, talk about the other folks out there. who are you looking to? are there strong women in the g.o.p. to maybe help beef up the numbers that seem to be lagging? >> there are strong women coming up. michelle blackburn, popular, representative from minnesota. marsha blackburn from tennessee. someone we haven't heard as much about but we will be is

kathy mcmorris rogers in washington, the fourth highest ranking republican now. part of the leadership team, strong, articulate, dynamic. young. she just had a baby two years ago serving in congress. outspoken on energy issues. we'll see evolution in women. sarah palin embodies that. it will be interesting to see the impact it has on numbers we're talking about. >> what do you take from the numbers and what is behind the flip-flop? >> it's an awareness among liberals there is a changing stereotype. they need to go after michelle bachman with everything they've got. if they see the women who are articulate and courageous, they know they have to come out of the folks with everything they've got. the lock on women voters is coming apart.

this has a chilling effect. you will see some of the women, and sarah palin is not going away. the commentators, the best selling authors on the "new york times." they encourage women to be strong and not coward by attacks on the left. >> >> talk about sarah palin. her walking away from the gorship was it her couring in fear? what was it? >> no. a personal reasonably responsible thing to do. she knew she would take a political hit but he did it because it was right for her family, as he said on july 3. she knew her family would be bankrupt because the state does not pay for the defense of the governor. she knew as governor she was not able to accomplish anything for the state because the left was coming after her. they were going to continue to attack her, her family and children until she was destroyed. they cannot allow for the strong conservative women to

rise and influence. they can't stand the fact that tens of thousand ospeef come to see her. that hardworking americans identify with her. they don't care if she doesn't speak with a slick tone and attitude like some of the washington politicians. they love it about her. gun toting and carries her baby on the stage, she loves her husband and small business owner. they love that about her. >> the other side of the aisle women fared well. hillary clinton and other top position senators, those things. why did democratic women fared better? >> i don't know if they fared better. when they run on the conservetive valleys that majority of americans share they do well.

>> in the past they were at home, raising the children and focus on the family. now they real i realize that th don't have a choice to sit back and not get involved. the moms and working moms, the older women with conservative values can not stay home. more con everyone istive -- conservative women are in the workforce. some of them have their husband staying home with the infant child. that blows apart the stereotype. there is a shift from only women can get involved in politics. >> we'll watch the rising stars. >> thank you. >> former falcons quarterback

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>> shannon: nine people are believed dead after a tragic mid-air collision. caroline shively has the top of the news. >> police boats continue to search for bodies in the hudson river. check out live pictures. that's where the tourest helicopter and private plane went down yesterday. investigators are looking for witnesses and pictures taken by people on the ground. 40 inmates in chino california were sent to the hospital after a riot at medium security prison. witnesses in the area reported the sound of gown schoths and explosions -- gunshot and explosions. the injured were taken to hospital for treatment. most lawmakers at home for august recess and are getting an'reful from the con -- earful from constituents. americans are voicing concern

over the obama administration push for healthcare reform. there is a nationally coordinated effort to disrupt the meeting but the republican party says it's not behind it. "american idol" may not have worked out for judge paula abdhul this season but spokes people for other reality televisions would love a piece of her. "dancing with the stars" and you think you can dance reached out to abdhul. no word on formal agreements. those are the top stories. shannon, back to you. >> thank you so much. >> the israeli authorities are continuing hunt for gunman in shooting spree in tel aviv. thousands rallied in support of the gay community there. rieena ninan has more. >> police are searching for a suspect. they won't reveal the motive in the attack. last night, a memorial was held in downtown tel aviv and held under tight security.

they gathered where it's usually center stage for israeli protest. if you have never been to tel aviv, a cosmopolitan city with vibrant gay community. israeli president perez addressed with solidarity of those saying every israeli has freedom to be what they are and be proud and different. we know the police have arrested a man suspected of making threats to attack the rally. the rally went on without attack. the man is ultra religious soldier in the israeli army but not considered a spupt susp in the murders. >> shannon: thank you for the update. cash for clunkers turn turned o to be a great deal for those looking for new vehicle but it's impacting some charity

organizations. we have an affiliate from ktlx with the story. >> cleaned out the inventory. more than half of the inventory has been moved. >> cash for clunkers is bo boosting the economy, it's crushing blow for others. >> it's the capital to run the operation on. >> they allow them to donate the cars at the lot in an exchange for tax benefit. the cars are sold to provide funding for the mission. >> we have seen a huge decrease in the vehicles that have come in our lives. it's had a significant impact. >> the director says it's impossible to drive away hunger when there are no donation cars on their lot. >> we can't compete with that. it's a competitor.

with the government. >> the savings is outweighting the tax break and the desire to donate. >> they hope people will see that the donation will continue to serve the community. >> use to help the the people in need of the community with food, clothing, sheltshelter. >> the senate voted to extend the cash for clunkers program ensuring more americans can take advantage of it. but are people trading in the older car for energy efficient ones? joining us su no publicer of inte intelichoice. thank you for your time, mr. bell. do we know which kind of cars are turned in and which are bought?

>> the early concern was domestics wouldn't have success. that people would buy the import but it's not proving out. the top traded in is the ford explorer and the late to mid-90s. the top sell is ford focus. ours is the stimulus that cracked the seal to get people back in the market and consider a new vehicle purchase. >> shannon: you mention a lot of activity is with the american auto makers. do we know how they're faring? in this program and widely? >> it appears so. i have driven the new 2010 ford vehicles and they have a great line-up coming. managing an automobile company is like driving the the queen marry. you turn the wheel and wait for the impact.

ford has great new products. general motors has new electric vehicles coming in the future. the only one i'm cautious about is chrysler. chrysler just turned the wheel with management and ownership by fiat of the the three, ford and general motors have a good group. this is about product, quiting and making people want to show off the new car in the driveway and showing their friend. g.m. and ford have that. waiting to see what chrysler will have coming. >> you mentioned the volt and others with the energy efficiency. what are the price tag? some of the cars have good aim and creeping price tags. what do we know there? >> the target price for the chevy volt next year is aiming for there 40,000 space. then they anticipate incentive from the government, maybe tax credit or something like that will make it more in the $35,000

range. it's not cheap, but great benefits come from that. the fact that the volt can run the first 40 miles without turning on the engine. you will save ton of money for gasoline in the future. what is great about the volt, it will allow general motors to put the technology in other vehiclvehicles. as soon as it's in a small suv, they announced a new suv with the volt system. and other vehicles from cadillac will allow the price to come down. it will be like hybrids. it will be a high value experimental exciting thing that the price will come down as they get out there. economics. >> the other end of the spectrum. hi home turned -- my mom turned in a ford explorer and she benefitted from the program. a lot of people are against this. senators came out that said they oppose another $2 billion for the program. do you think it has the longer term benefit?

worth $2 billion of taxpayer money? >> i'm the last to ask someone to reach in and hand the taxpayer money out. this has such a ripple effect. we have to keep the industry intact. a lot of people looking for the product to come out. it's either a product thing or economic incentive. that's what cash for clunkers has done. i don't think it should go beyond the $2 million. it will help sell vehicles and that is the point. it will get people looking at the product to look at the wallet and get the good financing again. >> generated chatter here.

james bell, thank you so much. >> we're giving you a live look over the hudson river. this is where recovery continues today. a collision over the hudson yesterday with a tour helicopter and small plane. all nine people aboard the two aircraft are believed dead. a tough time for crews searching over the hudson. they recovered bodies and wreckage. they continue at this hour and we want to give you a live look. this comes to us from wnyw, look from the hudson. they said it would be the best time for searching but they're still out there. hoping to glean information about what happened yesterday. we update you with more. journalists freed from korea. now the authorities say they t capture made them part of an elaborate plot.

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8>> shannon: topping the news right now, the nine victims presumed dead in the midair crash of tourist helicopter and single engine plane above the hudson river includes three teenagers. officially the number of bodies recovered from the wreck soldier three, but the fox news crews on the scene say they have seen more remains pulled from the water

today. president obama says the recent economic report and says, "the worst may be behind us," but he expects unemployment to hit 10% this year. friday jobless figures were 9.4% friday down from 9.5, the first decline in a year. maria shriver's mother and president john f. kennedy sister eunice kennedy shriver is in critical condition at cape cod hospital. she's suffered a number of strokes and her family is travelling to be with her, including her son-in-law governor arnold schwarzenegger and his wife maria shriver. we want to update a developing story. christian activists along the north korean border with china now say the two american television reporter freesed from captivity may have blundered into a north korean trap when detained in march. they were freed after bill clinton f flew to pyongyang. now they're saying that they

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>> shannon: topping the news right now, authorities recovered more bodies from the hudson river. following yesterday's deadly midair collision between a plane and tourist helicopter. nine people are believed to be dead ahead of the crash. summer temperatures officially arrived across the united states today. with temperatures in the 90s in much of the country, including the northeast. which hasn't seen temperatures that high since april. it's likely to get even hotter for your monday tomorrow. former falcons quarterback michael vick is trying to revamp his image. he began visiting low-income

youth urging them to stake out of the dog fighting business and will make dozen of appearances. money that protected million of americans from foreclosure and going broke may be running out. in the coming months, a million-and-a-half americans will have used unemployment insurance. congress enacted emergency extension so laid-off americans could collect benefit for 79 weeks but tens of thousands of the workers burned through the money. lending many to call on congress to call an emergency extension. president obama says the recent numbers shows economy is on the up-swing. but how difficult is it to get back in the workforce? we have vice president of resources for career builder.com and she joins us from chicago. rosemary, thank you for joining us. >> pleasure. >> you said if you have been out of work, don't apologize.

rosemary, can you hear us okay? >> i can't hear. >> shannon: i think we may have lost her. we will come back and check in with rosemary. important advice for everyone trying to rebound with the economy. we'll get back to it shortly. maybe she's there? rosemary. >> i am here now. i'm here now. >> shannon: great! fantastic. >> if you have been out of work like millions of americans have, don't apologize. the employers are used to the gap in the resume. so don't dwell how long you've been out of work. take a positive line in the conversation as a job interview. what have you learned from the job search experience, what strengths do you have and how are you going to be enthusiastic every day if you're hired. >> shannon: and keep an open mind. you may not end up in the same job you had and maybe there is something better.

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u.s. forces are closely monitoring the situation in pakistan as rival taliban phak objections fight over who will be the next leader. earlier today, i sad down with "fox news sunday" chris wallace for more on that. chris, you had a special guest today and got to talk to national security advisor general jim jones today. a lot of topics you touch ited on there, what stood out most to you? >> well, i think the big news involved what is going on in pakistan right now. late this last week apparently with one of our predator drones these unmanned vehicles that we don't even admit we have, we fired a missile that took out a fellow named masudh who is thought to have been the mastermind of the assasination of be benazirbubo.

what is interesting is there is a lot of fighting going on. there was a story yesterday that two of the top contenders to succeed him got in a fight and shot each other. that may not be true now as it turns out. it was having talking about it and saying it is a very good moment, maybe not a tip iting point but really important in terms of reaffirming the strength of the pakistan government and military and in effect putting the taliban on the run in pakistan. >> and let's shift the focus to afghanistan obviously. a very important election coming up there as well. what did the general have to say about that? >> he thinks they will go off okay. i can't say it was the most resolute and confident statement that they are going to take place on august 20th. part of the taliban that isn't in afghanistan -- isn't in pakistan is in afghanistan. how do you hold an election

when you have people do you understand and determined to kill voters talking about they will get ink stains like they did in iraq on their fingers when they vote and the taliban is saying we are going to cut your finger off. that hurts voter turnout. he thinks they will go off okay but maybe with some disruptions. he seems confident that we turned the corner in afghanistan as well. we put an impressive guy in charge of our effort in afghanistan. basically the pentagon fired the guy in charge and put mckristol in. i don't think they in tend to lose it. >> he has another battle on his hands with the issue of healthcare. we have the controversy about the town halls. we are hearing from a number of representatives and senators that they are canceling or modifying the way they are holding the town halls because of some perceived threats.

>> well, it is interesting. we talked about it on the panel and people like steve hayes of the weekly standard says he thinks it is actually playing to the benefit of the democrats because he believes that so some degree by us as well. and that is changing the subject from the issue of the merits of healthcare reform which he thinks is an area in which the obama administration, the democrats are losing. it is a long month and, of course, whatever happens in the town hall meetings, the real question is what is going ham when the members of congress, the senators and representatives come back in september. the general feeling seems to be it will move a little bit moor to the right and that whatever ends up getting passed probably with a big democratic majority in the states that president obama has invested in this, it will be more watered down, more moderate, not as far to the liberal plan and that the

public health plain may be in real jeopardy. >> having had an earful from back home, they will come back. much more with chris wallace on "fox news sunday" as he interviews national security advisor general jim jones later tonight at 6:00 eastern time right here on the fox news channel. this is a fox news alert. right now, we are going to show you exclusive photos of yesterday's mid air collision above new york's hudson river. a sight seeing helicopter collided with a single engine plane. authorities believe nine people, all the passengers including three teenagers, were killed in the crash. hello again, i'm shannon bream in washington. fox news is on the scene of last night's deadly mid air collision move the hudson river. laura ingle with more.

we have been watching dive iters go in and out of the hudson river. they are looking for the remaining bodies of the crash as you mentioned. three bodies were recover canned yesterday and we want to go right over my shoulder. this is what we have been waiting for all day long. that yellow and black boat has an enormous crane on it. we have been told from investigators here on the scene as soon as they removed all the bodies that they possibly could from inside the helicopter and around it they would be putting a hook down into the water that they would attach to the helicopter wreckage and lasso it around and bring it up. that process is now underway. that is the u.s. army corps of engineers on the scene and you see the blue and white boat that is going back and forth. they all day long when something serious has been going on have been trying to block our vantage point because they don't want us seeing what has been at times a grim sight. we have seen two bodies pulled out of the water today and that

brings the total number to five. once that helicopter wreckage has been pulled up out of the river, they will go back down, the divers will be going back down to feel around. it is so dark that they cannot see anything and that current is extremely strong. it is fast moving and they will get back down there to see what else they can find. the other mission at hand is to find the small plane. it has not been spotted yet. at first yesterday, they thought yesterday and today they might have had a spot where it was and it turned out to not be the case. obviously there is a lot going on at the bottom of the hudson river. they are using sonar and fbi boats out there as well doing their best to try to find the other aircraft. shannon? >> shannon: how common are these kinds of flights over the hudson river because folks hear about planes so close together. we had one guest that said it is basically like a highway and

roadway there. >> it is so busy on this particular corridor. in hoboken on the other side, we have the wreckage coming out i have just been told. i want to spin out and let you see that as much as the new york police boats will let us do that. i know you have aerials overhead to see. once the helicopter comes out they will get it up the river to a pier in hoboken. that is where investigators will be piecing together the evidence families they can find, the physical evidence of that helicopter. you might have heard from the witnesses people describing this mid air collision. tourists who were able to capture the scene live as t happened. the photographic evidence is very important, as you could imagine. and what we have been told, the sound that has been tee scribed from the -- described from the witnesses. one witness said t sounded like a fork being stuck in a

blender. the helicopter hitting the aircraft and both plunging down into the river. now, we have the wreckage and now the race will be on to find the other aircraft and they want to get these aircrafts out of the river before the current picks up, which in the next few hours it is expected to get much stronger and then that lays the problem of possibly this wreckage being swept away and moving further south. a lot going on here. we are expected to have a briefing from ntsb investigators. they told us that we will be hearing more details once this wreckage is out of the water. theyle give us an update and we will bring that to you live as it happens. shannon? >> shannon: i know you probably have a tough time trying to see there with all the diff'rent watercraft there in the way. it looked to us and we got a little glimpse of what you mentioned is probably the wreckage of the helicopter being brought up on the larger side of the boat and we see the

blocking from the closer boat, the blue and white. >> yes. >> shannon: there is wreckage they will still have a tough time finding, the small plane that was involved. i imagine the conditions were not ideal forgetting to the plane but at least they had success locating the helicopter. >> the current settled down from the river expect we have been talking to. he said that after 1:00, which it is now 1:05, it is going to pick up in the next few hours. so they are very much trying to find the small winged aircraft but so far they haven't seen it. remember from the pictures we have been showing you on fox, the plane broke apart, the wing coming off and plunging down so we are not sure exactly what they will be able to find. they are looking for plane parts, unfortunately, again, because they were able to find the helicopter right away they marked it with the buoys in the

water and upriver they are trying to find the parts with the sonar devices you mentioned. >> shannon: we'll get more information from the ntsb later this afternoon. meantime, you minged although we have an official count of three -- you mentioned although we have an official count of three bodies. you noted other remains or other bodies possibly being brought out as well. can you tell us any more about that and i guess we will have to wait for the ntsb to give us formal confirmation. >> and we have been talking with the nypd and they don't want to give us confirmation until we -- until they talk to the coroner's office. the helicopter pilot's family were at the morgue to identify the helicopter pilot. right now we are also told that they just can't confirm what we have seen with our own eyes works bodies being pulled out. it was a grim sight.

the nypd, much to their credit did everything tasselle to shie eyes of those on the shore, really trying to shield everybody's eyes from that. but we could certainly see what were bodies being placed into the basket can and wrapped in the body bags and brought onto the new york police boat and being ferried over to the morgue. >> shannon: whatever piece of fragments or debris that they found there, that looks to be a large piece that they are looking to get up on to the army corps of engineers, i believe the larger boat, the grey and black oriole lo or ye. that looks to be a significant piece of material there. do we know that that might be a piece of the helicopter or what that might be? >> only that they told us that the helicopter was marked by buoys. the ntsb told us that last night and again today and we

were told that as the helicopter crashed and when they found it at the bottom of the hudson they said it was upside down. you, of course, have a better vantage point than i do. you have aerials there. i can't see it from the side. whatky see from the shoreline here in hoboken on the new jersey side of the hudson river is look at that team of u.s. army corps of engineers along with the police department geting that wreckage up. they will take the wreckage and just like all the other plane accidents that we talked about, they will take that wreckage up to an area and put if into a warehouse and then start piecing together the physical evidence of this crash. >> shannon: and laura, we know that in the conversations and with different guests and experts that we talked to over the last several hours that you talked about what a busy corridor is and our guests told us it is much like a highway. you are not communicating with a tower or filing a flight plan. for now, are those some what more casual flight rules still in effect?

has there been a major policy change for now at least in the immediate aftermath of this crash? >> we have not been told of any changes in those types of rules and regulations. however, the ntsb chair it is woman told us -- chairwoman told us that they are reviewing the policy and the way that the small aircraft either do or to not have communication with each other and they said that while they will make recommendations at the end of this investigation into that realm, this is certainly the possibility there could be an emergency restriction put on. but they could not make that comment as of yet. they needed to talk to more investigators and talk to people that use this airspace, this very busy corridor as you mentioned. for anybody that has been to the area and know this strip of water, it is extremely busy. you have boats, you valuable information the helicopters and small -- you have boats, small helicopters and airplanes going what appears to be all different directions at all times of the day so it is

extremely busy. >> shannon: as we see the police boat, moving in front of the shot that we have, it appears the large piece of wreckage is connected to the crane that would take it up out of the water and on to the larger corps of engineer boat there. looks like they are getting ready to lift it. it has been secured by a team that was there in the smaller boat and we may learn a little more and see a little bit more as this comes out. looks like they are continuing to make progress with that. they will have to take all the pieces, almost like a puzzle, put them back together and figure out if that gives them clue about what happened to the aircraft before they collided. just a recap for folks just joining us. you are looking live at the hudson river. the aftermath of a crash between a helicopter and a small plane. all nine believed dead. we have amazing pictures that fox has been able to show you of the crash as it happened.

now, you are looking at pictures of them pulling wreckage possibly from the tour helicopter. from laura ingalls, fantastic reporting there on the scene. we underand this these aren't ideal conditions for bringing these things out and that they are still looking at a separate area possibly for the remains of the smaller plane. as we can see there, the crew is still -- it looks like putting some type of cover up on what they are bringing up but it is attached to the crane, obviously a large section of what went missing and we know that there are reports from the associated press from earlier today that one of the bodies that was recovered was taken and had been actually trapped in part of the fuselage of the helicopter we understand and you have to wonder if they are covering up and using the boat now to block what is happening if there are worries that maybe there are more remains in this piece of wreckage that they are pulling out. certainly we are all trying to be sensitive in covering this

particular recovery effort as it continues to be pulled from the hudson river today. >> i can't see what you are seeing but i can tell you what i'm seeing from the shore. and what i'm keeping my eye on is the small rubber raft with the divers still on it. i have been told from earlier today that once the helicopter has been pulled out, which it has, or at least most of it has, that the boat will go back and the divers will go back into the water where the orange neon balloons have been marking where the wreckage was. it is my understanding the helicopter was possibly on top of one of the victims in the river. they went in and if you can only imagine what the divers have been through. these divers are down there in

30 feet plus of water in a pitch black with the current racing past their face feeling around with their happens trying to feel inside of the helicopter and find the victims and cut them out of the seatbelts and feel around on the bottom of the hudson river for more victims and that is what i have been told they found was another victim underneath the helicopter. once they got the wreckage up they need to go back down and feel around again. there are as we know more victims down there. all we have seen today are two bodies removed from this scene. so that brings the total number to five. it is not official. we need to make that clear. we have not received efigures confirmation that the total number of victims brought to the surface is five. but from our vantage point, that is what we have seen. so we are now waiting for the ntsb to come and tell us exactly what they have obtained from underneath the water and when we do get that we, of course, will share it with you and hopefully get the next leg of this investigation and this very tedious recovery

operation. >> shannon: laura, as we talked about earlier they talked about limiting the search or when the best hours or best conditions would be. we understand those have massed but seems like they made significant progress today. i can't imagine the kinds of men and women who take on these positions as divers and go through the conditions that you have just described. i would imagine at this point they have to be satisfied at least that they have made some significant progress here from the looks of this large piece coming out of the water now. we have a couple of different viewpoints for the viewers able to see what is coming up. but again, the divers did reach out from the raft and throw some type of tarp or sheet over a portion of what is coming out of the water now. of course, leading us to wonder whether there are possible remains of one of the nine victims here. we know some of them in the two planes were italian tourists and we also had family members that were together flying from pennsylvania or at least based there. three teenagers we also have

reported were involved in the nine deaths that all are presumed dead from the crash. we continue to see this large piece being pulled now, hoisted out of the water. it must be the most significant piece. is this the largest that you have seen so far today, laura? >> oh, absolutely. you know, whistling they operation began -- when this operation began at 8:00 a.m. eastern time we saw them come out with a piece of debris. that was the first piece of relevant debris out of the water today and then the first body or part of a second body and then they had -- or part of a body and then a second one. this is certainly the largest part of the wreckage that we have seen. as you mentioned, the other aircraft still needs to be found. we are waiting for word if they can find it. they thought they had a hit ton. there is cars and car doors and cars and boats down there. all kinds of things at boot tomorrow of the hud -- at the bottom of the hudson.

they need to take the cameras and go down and see exactly what they are dealing with. we thought we would have pouring rain by this point. there was talk of thunderstorms. the weather is humid and hot and sticky but at least the rain has stopped. they can always work through rain, if the fear of lightning. the weather is good. the current has settled down. it is the next few hours. the 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. window we talked about earlier from the river experts was really the best window of time. these divers, our hats are off to them, went in at 8:01 and got their work done and secured as much as they could underwater and they have been going nonstop ever since. now, that it is past 1:00 when the current is going to change again, they do have significant challenges ahead of them. they have all the ex-pearls here to help guide them from what is coming and predicted as far as the tide and weather conditions so we are hoping

that they will be able to come up with more stuff before the sun goes down. >> shannon: this looks like it could be -- i'm certainly no aviation expert -- but it looks like the main part of the helicopter. i notice a number of boats and water taxis and things going by. is normal traffic still operating on the hudson at this point? >> apparently so. it has been relatively quiet since last night but this morning you are right. we saw a sailboat go by earlier and i can see the water taxi that you can see as well, the white and blue one. it apparently has been opened up. >> shannon: is it your understanding that you talked about the 1:00 potential cutoff. do you think they will go beyond this point? any indication that since they had success maybe they will continue on or maybe just go as long as the conditions hold off? any indication there? >> absolutely. yeah, you got it. they are definitely going to

continue on as lounging long ae weather holds. we have the humid conditions but they are absolutely going to keep going. as i mentioned, they told us that once the main part of the fuselage of the helicopter came back out they will go back in and feel around. i can't see what you are seeing and maybe you can tell me if you see the helicopter blade or any parts of it on that wreckage. we have been talking about the dangerous conditions. you heard the mayor of new york city talk about it yesterday that they did not want to risk any lives after what we have seen with the nine lost yesterday. when the divers are down there, you are talking about the dark and current and water temperature but think about what they are touching and what could come flying at them underwater when the current picks up. metal, shards of metal and glass and the blades and propellers. all kinds of things down there

that could be deadly in a second for the divers. they are going to continue and make the most of the circumstances that they have in front of them. they will be underwater as long as the weather holds until they find all of the victims and all of the wreckage that is possible. >> shannon: thank you for keeping us up with such detailed information there from hoboken. we are joined on the phone by scot brenner with the faa to tell us about this situation and where we go from here. thank you for your time today. >> absolutely. >> shannon: it looks like they made significant progress. i don't know if you can see what we are seeing. >> i can't. but it -- that is a very crowded area, both for fixed wing aircraft and for helicopters. and so when you have that type of traffic, unfortunately, sometimes this is going to happen. they are probably going to be able to pull out large portions of each aircraft because

neither of them was flying high. from there you will get a good idea of what happened. there is lots of eyewitness accounts. you have good information already. we will still see. it is early but right now the early indication seemed probably the fixed wing aircraft just didn't see the helicopter and crashed into them. >> shannon: i understand that the smaller aircrafts like this probably would not have had something akin to a black box. anything these would be a top clue to investigators here because what we are looking at is a very mangled bit of wreckage. what will they look to? >> they will look at the radar tracks and look to see if there is any kind of aircraft control communication. a lot of times when pilots fly that corridor they fly because they don't want to get involved with air traffic and they want more freedom of flying around

to see the sights they want to see. i think investigators pull out the wreck and and take a look at that but i think fairly quickly they will come to a conclusion on this. and we understand that the airpolicies have not changed in that area. is sounds like it is casual, pilots have to rely on each other to communicate in this particular corridor. do you expect there would be any immediate change in how flight patterns happen there in the hudson absent some major discovery at this point? >> i think there will be discussion. community leaders are always trying to make the skies safer as is the faa. but also you have a pretty successful tourism business there with very few fatalities. has worked well but we'll have to take a look. >> shannon: scot brenner

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>> shannon: this a fox news alert. you are looking live at the hudson river following the mid air collision of two aircraft yesterday that is presumed all nine passengers aboard the two aircraft are dead. today the crews have been extremely busy trying to pull wreckage out. we have seen large pieces that appear to be from the tour helicopter that went down. they continue to pull in another piece of equipment it looks like they recovered here as well as unfortunately the remains of the victims of this crash. we will continue to keep you updated all throughout the day and we will give you live pictures so you can see what accomplishingaccomplishing

there, again, as they continue the recovery efforts along the hudson river in new york today. well, many democrats pushing for healthcare reform have a big complaint. they say that republicans are criticizing them but not offering any ideas of their own. one western republican says that is not true and he has can prove it. republican franks from. thanks for being with us today. what are republicans bringing to the table because democrats say it is all complaints and no alternatives. >> you know, ironically this is an arizona congressman john shaddig that has been the chief opponent of the republican's plan. and it would allow people to own their own plan and shop for insurance plans across the state lines and for government to be able to say to those who simply cannot afford this that we will work to make sure that the preexisting conditions and

things like that this we offer incentives to insurance companies to make sure that those things are covered. the bottom line is this allows people to choose their own insurance company and choose their own doctors. they remain in cell of the process and if there is -- in control of the process and if there is anything that the people fear about the obama plan, it is not even the $800 billion that it will cost and not even the 4.7 billion jobs that it will cost, the main thing that they fear is losing control, that some bureaucrat is going to tell them what they can and cannot have in terms of healthcare. nye chief of staff called me and -- my chief of staff called me and said there is a few people that want to come down to your office and thank nowor the -- for your opposition of the obama plan. these were senior citizens and nurses. is an untold story is the nurses against this plan. these people were adamantly grateful for my opposition of

the obama plan. they are smart people and they know they want to keep control of their healthcare options. i think if the administration believes these are just manufactured town halls that they going to be severely disabused of that in the next election by these people. >> shannon: and congressman, what do you make of that? they say that these folks are corporate funded and corporate driven, not grass roots, that it is astro turf. are you saying that is not the case? >> i'm saying that categorically that is not the truth. i live in an area where there are senior citizens and the majority of the people in the crowd yesterday were senior citizens and the temperatures in arizona yesterday soared over 100 degrees. no one was paying them to be there or asking them to be there. they were concerned and i hope that the media like fox does so well will get out there and talk to these people and find out where they are really coming from. one of my democrat counterparts had about 3,000 people come to

his district office i'm told and i guess he didn't want to come out because they weren't as happy with him because he was potentially supporting the obama plan. this is a big issue but just a long litany of things. one of the side issue dallas nobody pays any attention to. this healthcare plan will be the largest sponso step for apn aside from roe versus wade and paid for by taxpayer dollars. >> shannon: we will continue to follow the debate and thank you for your time in weighing in on it for today. >> thank you for all that fox does to help people understand the truth here. >> shannon: president obama heads south of the border. we will tell you what is on the agenda with a report live from mexico city after the break.

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>> shannon: welcome back to washington. fox news is on the scene of last night's deadly mid air collision above the hudson river. you are look at live pictures of the recovery effort there. laura ingle with the latest. hi, laura. >> hi, shannon. as we watch the the dramatic rescue mat irimages of the helicopter and wreckage coming out of the water, something that we have been waiting for all day long. now, the task continues. we have been talking about here on the shoreline of hoboken new jersey is about the dangerous condition that the new york

police divers are dealing with and one of the men helping to direct them and inform them of the dangers is dr. michael bruno of the stevens institute of technology. an engineering professor and you have been helping these guys get down there and be safe. what are they facing now. we talked about 1:00, which it is now, being a mark as far as when the currents change. >> right, 1:00 was what we called slight tide when the currents were minimum and it will be relatively light and then for the rest of daylight period today it will be quite active out. >> how do the divers stay safe. you have been advising them to stay safe out there. when the the currents do pick up what can they experience down there. >> when the currents are above 1 knot it is difficult to see anything so it is dangerous for the divers. they have been looking to get in as quickly as they can. >> is there any information you

can share with us about your conversations. i know you have been in a lot of the briefings today as far as the effort is concern. >> now, that the helicopter is out of the water now the attention is turned to the airplane and they are pulling sight scan sonar to profile the bottom. essentially gets a paragraph of the bottom so they will be looking for the plane using that instrument and if they do find a signature that they think is the plane they will send drivers down and get a visual and try and as certain whether or not it is in fact the plane. >> has there been any hits so far, anything that they thought might be the airplane? >> there have been a few hits since early this morning that may in fact have been the plane but we won't know that until divers can see. >> and we will see a similar operation with the crane going down into the water. >> once they locate the wreck they will have to as certain

what condition the wreck is in and then make a decision on how they bring it up. >> dr. michael bruno of the stevens institute of technology, thank you very much. i know you had a full day and have been advising the divers. we will bring you up-to-date we get further information. investigators are expected to give us an update now that the helicopter wreckage is out of the water and confirm to us what we have seen with our eyes that other bodies have been pulled out of the river. the official confirmation is only three but we know that there has been more. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much. we will check become with you again, president obama will arrive in mexico later today as that country continues to struggle under the pressure of a sinkle economy and drug related violence. steve harrigan is live with the latest. >> that con treens will be one of the top -- the drug violence will be one of the chief topics

of conversation. when you look at the numbers, the war with the drug cartels is astounding. in the past 18 months, 10,000 people have died here in mexico. those numbers dwarf u.s. losses of americans in iraq ove and afghanistan over the same time period. the president using troops to often replace corrupt police departments. violence up one third this year over last year and many saying u.s. citizens are not paying enough to the war on their doorstep. >> americans care what happens in iraq. americans care what happens in iran. americans care what happens in afghanistan and that is on the other side of the world. all of this is happening in their neighborhoods. >> another big topic on the agenda will be the interconnectedness of the three different economies. right now, one in ten mexicans live in the united states and

many towns here, especially outside of the capital really depend on money sent back from mexicans in the united states. last year it was $25 billion. the biggest industry here than tourism. this year it is down 20% because of the hard economy so many of the rural areas really turning into ghosttowns because of that downturn. shannon, back to you. >> shannon: steve harrigan on the latest ahead of the president's visit. thank you, steve. crowds you may have seen have gotten rowdy at a series of town hall meetings that discuss what the president and congress plan to do with your healthcare. joining us, doug schoin and congressman doug hyde. doug, i will start with you. >> which one? >> shannon: , that's right. we have two dougs. >> yes. >> shannon: doug high, let's start with you. is this something the gop can capitalize on or they aren't playing defense? >> certainly the democrats are on defense on this. there is a real double standard

played here. two years guy, four years ago, democrats said that dissent is patriotic and now they are upset about it. i get e-mails and mail from congressional offices and offices. the only e-mail i got urging me to be involved in the healthcare fight is an e-mail from president obama that he sent out to his e-mail list. he came to fame as a community organizer is and now the democrats are upset about that. that is really troubling. >> shannon: are these legit protests. >> people don't turn out unless they care and by all rights the american people in the polls are really turning against their healthcare plan. that being said there is a massive amount of insurance industry money being used to fuel the protests but i agree with my friend doug hyde, these are real protests by real people and can't be ignore.

>> shannon: doug high, what did you make about the fact that there is so many pushback. the unions are encouraging people to go and provide the other side. i interviewed congressman diane watson earlier today and was trying to push her to admit that it is legit that people could disagree with you and show up but they seem to be staying to the talking points that this is not a legitimate situation. >> it is amazing. go back nine years guy to the florida recount when there were organized republican protests. i happened to be a part of those. democrats weren't there. they literally at one point were outnumbered several hundred people to three in fort lauderdale and they were saying the same thing, organized mobs and things like that when it was really patriotic americans wanting to express their views. that is the definition of patriotism. >> shannon: speaking of which we have something to play for you from a very prom meant democrat talking about patriotism not long ago. >> i am sick and tired of people who say that if you

debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you are not patriotic. >> shannon: doug schoen, are the protesters patriotic? >> i' >> i'm sure they are patriotic. the democrats should come out and support the president and healthcare reform if that is their view. democrats should organize and mobilize as republicans are organizing and mobilizing. hillary clinton and doug high is right, we should all be out there voicing our opinion. it really is the american way. >> shannon: as a pollster, what a are you seeing as the top best talking point. we heard there will be a shift from being about healthcare reform to be about reforming healthcare insurance companies. that resonating or working for democrats? >> there isn't any evidence that it is resonating. there is a consensus, shannon, in the american people for healthcare reform for covering more of the uninsured and

making sure that preexisting conditions are covered and portability is assured. if the democrats can get their act together and agree, i think most of these protests will go away because 60% of the american people do want real reform. >> shannon: final word to you, are they going away. >> they are not going away. the organization that obama created is organizing for america. they were out at metro stops in northern virginia handing out information urging people to be involved. i think that is great and you are seeing the republicans do the same thing. >> shannon: a healthy debate. doug and doug, we thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> shannon: more than 80% of cancer patients seek treatment at community clinics. now, many say payment problems may force them to close their doors. we will explain after the break. and we are following the situation on the hudson river as recovery efforts continue there following the mid air collision between a helicopteri

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>> shannon: the fox news alert. we continue to watch the unfolding situation at the hudson river in new york where there was a mid air collision yesterday. two small aircraft, nine people aboard the two aircraft, all believed dead. they have been busy with recovery efforts and laura ingle has followed every detail along the way and joins us for the latest. >> we want to take you right

out to the action on the hudson river. the barge has the helicopter wreckage onboard now. you watched it unfold live on fox news. you can see the blue tarp beyond what is on deck there. they are now taking that, the u.s. army corps of engineers escorted by the new york police department heading upriver and taking it to a dock in hoboken where we will remove the helicopter wreckage and take it out to the national transportation safety board experts to look at it and the investigation of the physical evidence can really take on a larger form now that the majority of that wreckage has been found. now, the task is on to find the other plane, the small fixed wing aircraft is still underwater. fbi and state police boats are out in the water as well right now using side sonar equipment, trying to find that plane. it has so far not been found. the official body count is at it three, however, as we have stood here on the shore on

hoboken on the new jersey side of the hudson river we have seen at least two bodies be removed from the water and hoisted aboard the boats in their wire baskets that wie see most often used for recovery and rescue efforts as well. right now we are waiting for official confirmation from the ntsb. they told us that was going to have a news conference at noon, that was almost two hours guy. we understand that they want to -- two hours guy. they want to talk -- that was two hours ago. we hope to get some official information about the body count. as we saw the helicopter wreckage come out, there were tarps placed over part of the wreckage as it was coming out to shield our eyes so we could be hearing a higher body count in the next couple hours here. back to you. we'll check back. >> shannon: coming up, the cancer clinics that provide the vast majority of care for

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penance for his involvement with a doug dog fighting ring. he made his first appearance at this center and vick has said he will make dozens of appearances across the country. many community cancer clinics have had to close their doors. courtney keely has more. >> to get the treatment without having issue with who is going pay for it. >> when rosemary's therapy bill was rejected by medicare she spent hours trying to resolve it before she could start the next round of treatment. she receives care at the local oncology clinic but they may soon to have shut their doors.

>> the corridor, it gets a little -- the quarter gets a little worse and we can hand it will but january it really became evident that practices like this can't survive. >> 84% of all cancer patients nationwide rely on outpatient community care clinics. some clinics have closed or cut stuff while many are struggling due to inadequate payments from medicare. the public insurance option being worked on would be based on medicare but some say it is a broken system that needs fixing, not imitating. dr. jay reid thinks the politicians have made healthcare reform too political. >> people don't want to understand about healthcare reform, they want to find a way that the democrats can pass it or republicans can block it. >> president obama often repeats the story of his mother

who died of ovarian cancer. >> i never forget the my mother on her hospital bed dying of cancer fighting with insurance companies saying that it was a preexisting condition even though they wasn't diagnosed when she got her insurance. >> there should be another way for this to be done. >> this is a crisis now. it as real crisis. it is not a made up crisis. and we are endangering the world's best cancer care delivery system. >> president obama continues to champion a public plan and draws his line in the sand saying it must control costs, it must relieve and help the burden or uninsured and underinsured but the question is how. >> shannon: and if you and i could answer that, we would be top paid consultants, maybe, you know, running the country ourselves. that is a difficult issue.

>> absolutely. and really when you go out and talk to people at clinics you realize how immediate it is. it is not something that should take a recess. these people are in the clinics now receiving treatment on a daily basis and trying to worry -- they are worried and trying to cover their costs and they are insured but with the financial crisis with the high prime yums and the high copays and with -- premiums and with high copays and medicare not reimbursing the clinics enough, they are struggling. >> it is a recipe for disaster. george suodini opened fire, killing three women and injuring 11 more. at issue is his website. if you have seen it, you know there were plans there for murder. it is a web service himself that he paid to service -- is the web service himself in any way responsible for the web content generated by its customers. joining us is michael and defense attorney john floyd to hash this out. michael as a former prosecutor i got to ask you, who do you go

after in the situation. >> go after the domain register and as the host. you have to understand, a special relationship is made whenever a person passes money for a service. this isn't an ordinary situation where you have a normal bystander hoe has no relationship with the perpetrator. you have a special relationship and that gives rise to a duty under the law. it is as simple as that. >> i have read the blogs. it is disturb. there is a lot of information talking about the guns and how this was going be carried out. what price or what burden exactly does the web side bear? >> i hate to disagree with michael but the federal government has made it plainly clear through legislation that internet service providers are not responsible for the content of their users. now, this would effectively shut down the internet. no one who had actionable -- had actionable that he will go out and do these things. these are just the rantings of

a mad man. it's just not going happen. >> shannon: michael, what about the people who read the blogs? >> they don't have any duty to report it to the police. unfortunately, the law is pretty clear about that. if you are a bystander you have no duty whatsoever. we are not talking about just a normal bystander. you are talking about someone, a domain registrar and host receiving money from a murderer in this case. and i think the other side is right that the law is a little morphus on this. but you can absolutely monitor these things. let me give you an example. godaddy, i'm not affiliated with them at all, they have two different security teams that have monitored the traffic 24/7. is a responsible company slap that is a debate that will continue because these situations will no doubt continue to occur. thank you for your expertise today. >> thank you.

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this is a fox news alert. we continue to follow the recovery efforts at the hudson river where two planes crashed yesterday, a helicopter and plane leaving nine people dead. laura ingle has been live on the scene working a story. we will take a quick visit with lara to find out the latest. >> as we have seen, the helicopter wreckage has been removed and placed on a barge heading upriver. that is where ntsb investigators will start the physical part of the investigation where they will look at it and start to put together the pieces of the puzzle, so to speak and now they have to find the other piece of puzzle, the small airplane that also went into the water. it has not been found. fbi boats and state police beets are trying to find it

with side sonar devices. there have been false hits but they still haven't found the boat. right now the total number of bodies is at three recovered but we do know it is more because we have been standing here on the shoreline and have seen bodies removed from the water from the divers going on to the new york police boats. we will wait to hear from officials in the next little while. we were told we would have a news conference two hours ago but they are waiting for investigators to come from the hour to talk to them. we talked to the u.s. coast guard as well who is maintaining a zone of safety and monitoring the boats going around. the waterway is open and recreation boats are able to go through. >> they seem to be doing a fantastic job. that is it for us here in washington. of course, we will continue to follow this story, everything about the recovery efforts on the hudson river. up next is bulls and