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we warned you about this. new outrage of americans snitching on fellow americans who bash government health care. folks do just that in a snitch website under a new health czar. if is the government using money to spy on us. welcome to cashin in. and joining us is max and tracy and former texas congressman
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martin, okay guys. white house saying quote we can't keep track of everything so we need your help. if you see something fishy about health care, send it to us. wayne, you say this site is fishy, why do you say that? >> encouraging the government to spy on people is outrageous. remember about bush with the telephones and you have to reported this. any time w when the federal government is messing with the private citizens rights, we are protected by the constitution. government seems to illegal nor that and. by the way, you wonder where is the aclu when something like this happens. >> let's go to martin, because it does seem like a violation of our rights? >> come on, that is not even close. when i looked at the website.
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what they are asking, if someone hears something that sounds strange and white house could give them their side of the story. i have a republican person in texas that she sends me crazy things on the internet. sometimes i give them specific information. but there is nothing wrong with the white house being able to responsible when they hear something of a charge or trying to respond. >> i have a aunt in texas and there is all kinds of stuff. am i supposed to turn her in on this website? >> of course not. >> but man, this splgsz on top of everything. what happened to this notion of freedom of speech. let people talk. you shouldn't be thinking that
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way. that is what more of this is. the white house doesn't just wanted to address these issues. >> jonathan, they are saying look this could very well be a violation of our rights. this could be breaking the law with this website. >> sheryl, they are monitoring for subversion. i'm all for them monitoring the internet, but islamic terrorists. people that dont oh potion the health care program. i understand there is some confusion about the president's bill, why is that? they have a bully-pulpit. he has been talking on the issue and how much there is so much confusion on what government health care is. >> its complicated bill and there is different versions considered in both houses. let's get back to what is really going on. all the white house is saying. let us know what you are hearing about.
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this we'll give you our side of the story. >> these town halls have been out of control. they are very nervous about the costs. they expected they are not going to get the quality health that they would. >> we'll see what congress finally produces. there is nothing wrong with having townhall meetings. i had them all the time when i was congressman. i tried to answer the questions as best i could. that is democracy at work. >> did you write down the names that opposes had you? that is what this is. >> that is nonsense. people come and express their views. hopefully they want to hear the other side of the story. only thing is wrong if they disrupt the meeting so a congressman can't answers questions. a lot of people come to to these meetings and i wish that other
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person would sit down. >> hold on a second. jonas, people are going to the townhalls and be concerned what they are saying in front of the camera or. >> i just got a ticket driving through a red light with a camera. are my rights invaded? under the bush administration, i don't understand why they didn't spy on e-mails and do the thing that doesn't make any senses. its blog this white house has with an e-mail address to send them things that you may not think are right. that is not considered spying which i'm for. >> that is not what it's doing, it's putting people in the direction they wanted them to go. >> the role of media to correct what the obama health care plan is and other plans are.
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it's not the role of the white house to play that role. we're miss represented if you go to the white house for answer. >> jonas was breaking a law but if i express my opinion i have the right to do that under the constitution. >> absolutely you do. look when they get back from vacation in about five weeks, these lays move rons are debating a built that is the biggest bill since social security. it is leveraging our entire country's future that they are correct. they'll pick it sometime in the fall. that is how important this bill is. here is the problem, you can't catch bernie madoff or catch mr. stanford down in texas, if you wanted to snitch on people on health care? you got to be kidding me.
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now back to cashin in. >> i'm going to ask you to raises your hand if you are planning to settle your jet and fly back commercial. let the record show no hands went up. >> lawmakers who once upon of the time for ceos using corporate jets now demanding their own private planes and over half a billion dollars into the defense built for not one, not two, wait for it, eight lavish private jets. tracy i don't know where to start with this one. >> duh is what you want to say, you got to upgrade the jets but now is the time to do it. absolutely not. you know what, i'm driving with a bent door on my minivan
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because i'm trying to save money. you are going to buy jet. i can't get a skleen blanketed for my kid on a jet and they are going to have in-house service. it's luny and pr disaster. >> martin, 3,000 days they traveled overseas. it used to 3500 days, not even ten years ago. why the jump in overseas travel and their aides. >> let's not confuse what is going on here. those jets aren't being used for flights inside the united states. any time i went on a government plane when i went on air force one. these are used for foreign travel. kay bailey hutchinson organized a trip to go visit the national guard that was deployed in bosnia. how do you get there? you go on a government plane.
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my late wife was a general in an army, you need to go to iraq and see what is going on. >> martin, hold on, martin, how can you justify, how can congress justify when they are ripping apart the dz of chrysler and gm and citigroup and coming to d.c. -- nancy pelosi is running around in a private jet. >> it started when dennis hastert was speaker. no other member of congress flies on a government jet unless they are going with the president of the united states. there is perfect justification for to be able to take these on trips outside the united states, maybe they only need four but nothing wrong to take members of congress. >> john, you are shaking your head. >> this is absolutely insane.
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i've been to iraq eight times, i've never flown private. i got on a c-4 out of andrews and flown with the military. i've flown back on the military. $3500 million on private planes what that is not the only way to get to bosnia. >> these are planes to be used by the military. >> let me bring in .... >> new planes to be able to take members of the congress.... >> let me ask you a point. >> i need to get somebody else in here. >> let me ask you a question, let me ask you a question. when you think it's right for nancy pelosi to fly backs and forth for her constituency, do you think that is right. >> that was a decision that was
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made when dennis hagstert was speaker. >> do you think it's right? >> it's probably not necessary any more, let the government make that determination. >> weren't you part of the government at one time, part of the people that made that decision? private jets are okay. >> honestly, private jets are okay. i want to have a private jet. i'm working to try to get one. i think for the private sector they are okay. in high security situations when you shall talking about high ranking situations, on state business i do think that government should -- >> more plo business than jonathan, you get an mba and you get a corporate jet. now it's a come operable line gulf stream. 6 jrk
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because the national home ownership rate is about 65% with what was enacted by the carter. that inflated it to about 70%. that created all the wonderful crazy financing that has gone on in our system. it all started because those 35-6% of people should not have been there. it's terrible if you are one of these people, but it's what has to happen. >> they are talking about 63% ownership at 2020 which is less than 70% what it is right now. >> the fact of the matter is, one of the great things about free society, if you have a stake in it. everybody who has a stake in society, the success of the society it helps the adhesion of the society and it helps its freedom. if you own a home, that is your stake. that represents your stake in society. that is something people defend. you wanted as much home
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ownership as is all possible, it is financially feasible to have. >> do you think home ownership is a right in this country? >> i don't. i get what wayne is saying. i love the fact i own a home, but i think john's point, everybody has to take a step back. it wouldn't be bad to have people rent for a while, fill up the apartment buildings and people that own those places will do better again. we need to reassess our situation before we jump back in the mansions with the priats so low. >> you are making a good point. >> just a minute. you may say that is economically viable. it's more important to have people in a stake in society if they can afford it than it is note to. >> all right. jonathan, here is what we're
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saying -- hold on guys. can jonathan get it. can we just get jonathan get in a word in here. >> my lord, wayne is right. there is achievement to priestz ownership. there was no owning a home under the czars or the kings. america is great because you can own a piece of property. it depends on the individual circumstances. i got to tell you, john is right government intervention in the real estate market or the low rates, that is home ownership became something they could crow about. the government has to get out of all of this including home ownership. >> it's sound but any prices with no money down, that is not
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what we're talking. about if you don't have any money in the game under a are speculating that is a stake in the society. that is with the entire systems backing you. you can't pay any prices for a home. you can't have no savings and no money down. that is what people thought weren't theoperation. >> part of the achievement was, i saved all my money for my first home. i came up with 20% and i was so proud that i did. that when you don't have to do that, you don't have a stake in anything. so i philosophical angle that is normal. meeg 20% down. >> it's a great point and make everything the way it used to be which is reality when it comes to housing pricing? >> 65% of home ownership is what it's going back to. when they forced the banks to go out and lend money to people,
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that economically could not repay those loans and they knew that, that is what created the housing bubble. unfortunately, that is what has to be taken out and normalized. what if i told you bicycle, i've missed you. gathering dust, as pollen floats through the air. but with the strength of zyrtec ® , the fastest, 24-hour allergy relief, i promise not to wait as long to go for our ride. with zyrtec ® i can love the air ™ .
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know. >> news magazine as the top waitress index, beautiful people in sales and they took jobs as waitresses to work the economy. my theory they need it to bring you in the first place but will you continue to see hot chicks selling everything from burger to economy has a way to go. >> wayne, what do i need to know? >> you know, everybody is we're going run out of oil in the next ten years. i think you have a long lay on oil. i like chevron and there will be alternative sources of energy. >> i'm trying to get my tweet this week and it's not working this week because some hackers in georgia taking out our tech sites. i just saw barnes picture and she is doing very well. technology makes software to
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prevent this from happening so social network and you're going see a lot of websites knocking on their door. >> it's a good time for real estate. sellers are cutting their prices. even hugh heffner, he and his beautiful wife kimberly who was 1989 playmate of the year trashed 10 million bucks off their l.a. home. it's a necessary and ultimately bullish sign for real estate. >> and we'll show more of these hot pictures. >> john, what do we need. >> leave the hot chick videos up i love it. >> unemployment, being down is a record. will unemployment according to the government, it's about 16%. i would stay out of stocks for the short term. >> you really are that bearish right now? >> i'm not actually that
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bearish. i think we're starting to see gretchen: happy monday, everyone. it's august 10, 2009. thank you for sharing your time with us today. here's what's happening. finger pointing and fighting all over health care. >> who sent me here? i sent myself. how dare you. you dare you claim that i'm part of a conspiracy. gretchen: some lawmakers are canceling the town hall meetings. nancy pelosi says anyone who speaks out is unamerican. steve: meanwhile, it was a disaster waiting to happen. disturbing new information about the airspace where a plane and helicopter collided over the weekend and then plunged into the river below. we are live on the hudson in 10 minutes. brian.
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