tomorrow. dari: yes. steve: same time, same channel. steve: see you tomorrow. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill: this is a fox news alert. folks in pennsylvania are gathering for another town hall meeting. arlen specter is the featured speaker. remember what happened last time he was on stage. what we do not know, if this will go the way that so many others have gone. good morning, everybody. i am bill hemmer. megyn: i am megyn kelly. they are not deterred by the two top democrats in congress calling them un-american. the opponents of health-care reform are coming out in full force and they're voicing their opinions against what they feel will be government run health care. bill: we remember the unfriendly reception the senator got a few weeks ago in

philadelphia. they were shouting. one woman called the health care plan a bureaucratic nightmare. this is one of the first town hall meetings where folks lost it. it has now stopped since. david lee miller is outside the town hall meeting. what is the mood? >> it is hot and humid. it is probably going to get a great deal harder. town hall meeting is expected to start in about 30 minutes. over my shoulder, you can see just down the street. they are just turning to go into the hall. you can see hundreds and hundreds of people. they're beginning to enter the building to attend this town hall meeting with senator arlen specter. a few moments ago, i had the

chance to talk to the senator. he attended a town hall meeting a few weeks ago in philadelphia. i asked him if he was going tuo change his strategy. he essentially said no. it did appear there was a level of nervousness or a prince of this about going into this meeting. -- or apprehensiveness about going into this meeting. bill: how were they determining who gets inside and who does not? >> i understand it is first- come, first-served. one of the organization, 80 party organization, said 250 will be allowed to enter the hall. the others will remain outside pitch to have the right to demonstrate. it has been suggested that they will demonstrate. there have been a significant number of pro health care reform advocates also fear.

-- also year. there really outnumbered by those who have been very wary eye toward the obama health care reform plan. bill: david lee on the outside. thank you. megyn: new hampshire is the scene for the main event in a day full of these town hall meetings. president obama is said to face a big time protest. the president is expected to leave the white house in a few hours to hold his very own town hall meeting, pitching his health-care plan directly to the american people. we have live pictures. the crowd started gathering six hours ahead of the president's remarks. we'll hear from some of these folks in our next hour. bill: senator cardin held a town

hall meeting last night. this was a rough go. >> health reform will provide more coverage, not less. let's talk about the facts. i know some of you do not want to mention the facts, but listen. in maryland, 71 persons line o%o have private insurance are in one of two private health insurance plans could we do not have much competition. bill: the democrat had to shout his way through much of the evening. senator cardin hammered by a crowd that seemed skeptical about the cost of health care reform. when the audience got a crack at the microphone, a medical malpractice question nearly brought down the house. >> why isn't tort reform and part of any of these bills?

[laughter] [applause] >> there's a second car to my question. -- there is a second party to my question senator, does it have to do with nearly half of the representatives in congress are lawyers? [applause] bill: the question was about tort reform. that is a question we have less consistently on our program. -- we have asked in sicily on our program. -- we have asked consistently in our program. that was last night from senator cardin. we will talk with a democratic congressman of the state of georgia who got an earful last saturday.

we had a doctor on yesterday. today the congressman will come back to defend himself. megyn: days of attacks on the people showing up to these town hall meetings to talk about their fear of health care reform. they have been called nazis. they have been called un- american by the speaker of the house. some are suggesting that they are racists. on the show open coat hard ball -- open code hardball" was raised yesterday. >> put all these feeble in a room and strapped them into bernese. -- put all these people in a row. what percentage would say they do not like having a black president? >> i am discussing. i think 45% to 65% of the people in these groups are people who will never be comfortable. megyn: when they get their

injections, 40% to 65% will admit they just do not like having a black president. does in fact what these town hall meetings are all about. i'm glad we cleared this up. bill: some of these remind you of the house of commons in london. we do not get a chance to see our democracy at work in a case like this. they always see it like this in london. megyn: to senator cardin, it is generally not a good idea to antagonize your constituents. you're supposed to acknowledge the anger. bill: in many cases, it is good to be reminded that you represent them in washington. reality check or damage control? you'd be the judge. the white house showing off the new web site that is called reality check. it will focus on what reform

means for you and your family. people are encouraged to send e- mails. some republicans are skeptical it will help turn around public opinion. megyn: this is a fox news alert. a desperate sounding plea from the treasury secretary this morning demanding that congress allowed the feds to borrow more money and very soon. treasury secretary tim geithner said we need to raise the debt ceiling, the legal limit on what the government can borrow, so investors can remain confident the united states will always meet its obligations. he wants the debt limit increase above the limit is already at. isn't there a reason that we have such a debt limits? stu varney of the fox business network is here with us now. is there a reason that congress placed it at 12.$12.1 trillion. >> the national debt is the

amount of money, the accumulated data over the years. as the outstanding national debt. this is no different from the deficit. we're talking national debt. at the moment, we owe $11.7 trillion. megyn: we are talking trillion. >> yes, and we're adding $200 billion to the outstanding debt total each month. in eight weeks, they will bump up above that ceiling. treasury secretary tim geithner is very anxious. he is desperate to extend that ceiling so that we can borrow even more money. he says this is to reassure lenders. in my opinion, it has the opposite effect. it looks like spending is out of control. we are desperate to borrow even more money. megyn: the debt is money that we

owed to creditors of the united states. if we do not raise the debt limit, are we going to default? >> yes, precisely. if we do not raise the debt ceiling -- we have to. we would default. this is a factor in these town hall meetings. it is not anger about health care. often hear that expression, "you are out of control." there is an idea that this borrowing and spending is out of control. megyn: representative tom price said the request is a clear sign that we have the federal government out of control from the fiscal standpoint. as you point out, there's virtually no chance of congress shooting him down. we're not going to default on the united states debt.

bill: my nephew has been in town for four days. he asked, what is that? i said, that is the national debt clock. megyn: it is so funny. i have never really been able to put that in perspective until i got pregnant. now when i get on the scale, it is just like that clock. bill: easy now. in a moment, shadows of the cold war off the coast of georgia. russian nuclear-powered submarines. why is no one talking about this? megyn: new safety concerns raised after this weekend's deadly mid-air collision over new york city. the faa does not regulate aircraft flying low over the hudson river. coming up, rick leventhal will give us a bird's-eye view of what it is like to fly in a plane like the one that went down on saturday. bill: a roller-coaster ride that you want to take a picture of.

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bill: you might think this next door is something out of the cold war. russian attack submarines patrolling the u.s. eastern seaboard. now there are calls by some senate republican leaders for the president to investigate the matter. what is up with that? peter brooks, senior fellow at the heritage foundation, and former assistant secretary of defense. the pentagon is not too concerned about this. why is russia doing this? >> there are probably a lot of reasons. the pentagon said it did not

raise any red flags. i thought that was interesting. some of the greatest capers of the cold war involves submarines. i think russia has several things here. first, they want to do a little muscle flexing. they want the world to know they are back as a world power. there will be on their waters along the coast of the united states. the russian navy, which has had troubles blately, wants to show its bosses in the kremlin that it still has the right stuff. they probably also want to take a look at our u.s. navy. we have our ballistic missile submarine base down there. this is the sort of a submarine that would chase our fleet ballistic submarine. bill: you wrote a piece in "the new york post" recently. talk about the submarine.

what is it capable of? >> it is not safe to go back in the water. yes, that is the nato named for this submarine class, akula. when i was in the navy, i flew on the sea trials of the akula. it has been around for such a long time. i was joking that maybe they were sunday did over here for the cash for clunkers. it is an attack submarine. it is meant to sink ships or other summer rains or transport ships. -- or other submarines, or transport ships. bill: even though it might be vintage 1980's, it has capability. >> absolutely. it is still one of their top line subs.

that raises the question about funding for military preassembled in w. underfunding our military. -- that raises a question about funding for our military. some people think we're underfunding our military. we may have detained about are funding for anti-submarine warfare capabilities. bill: just to be clear, they're in international waters. about two under miles off the coast. has the white house raised this issue with russia? >> it is not clear that they have. the white house has not been one to be too confrontational with russia. joe biden had tough words for the russians. there has been this whole soft approach to foreign policy. they're trying to get the russians to come around on issues such as start.

they want rusher's help with the iranian nuclear program. they want russia to play nice with the georgians. i doubt the pentagon will really push this with the russians. the russians will say, you american submarines are doing the same thing. i do not see the white house pushing this as an issue. it is not a major issue of the moment. bill: keep an eye on that for us. peter brooks, thank you. megyn: a fun ride turns to terror. people are stuck on a roller- coaster quarter-hour'for hours. bill: also, a salesman said he was beaten at a town hall simply for promoting a message the union members did not want to year. he has become a poster boy for

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congress. but they will have to find another means, thanks to public outrage. a line item 4 $550 million for new jets made it into a pentagon funding bill. do you feel like paying all those millions? our lawmakers and folks from the pentagon can fly on these private jets. apparently not. defense secretary gates raised a red flag. after a lot of bad publicity, congressional leaders have had a change of heart. congress is not going to buy all those g-5's after all? >> that is right to the public outrage had a lot to do with this. the house had approved $550 million for eight jets. these are the military version of the versioboeing 737, and the

military version of the gulfstream. these are passenger jets for senior government officials, including congress. pentagon asked for four planes. when reports surfaced for congress wanting four more of more than twice the price, there was an immediate backlash. the pentagon said we did not ask for those. john murtha said last night -- megyn: i understand that there was backlash on this not just from republicans and the general public, but from the and cutdems as well? >> some senate democrats did not want to address it. >> i am embarrassed and disgusted at the idea that they would add money for private jets right now to the budget.

[applause] >> you herded that applause. it was not too popular with the public. democrats are having enough troubles with the public right now. megyn: but now? >> they will have this four airplanes that the pentagon had requested. some of the lawmakers had said that we need the newer air plans to replace the older ones. they are more expensive to operate and maintain. megyn: thank you very much. bill: that did not last very long. that was about one day and was gone. $500 million. megyn: remember when nancy pelosi was so upset that she did not get to ride on the g-5? bill: right. take the greyhound. megyn: were the peter pan where they show videos.

bill: it is the peter pan? megyn: the peter pan bus. bill: millions have seen the video of a man selling conservative theme to products. not many folks have seen this. >> did you just hit me? bill: that is a videotape from the same event, featuring what we are told were other attacks by the same union crowd. we will talk to him right after this. megyn: a small airplane and helicopter collided in mid-air. investigators are still looking for clues as to what caused the crash over the hudson. what was it like in that airplane? rick leventhal is in new jersey. >> every day, thousands of small aircraft take off and land at small airports like this one.

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bill: 9:03 a.m. in new york city. new developments in the dublin mid-air collision in new york city. an exclusive picture on your

screen now. witnesses say the small single engine plane slammed into the back of a helicopter, killing a total of nine people. three days later, teams are searching for a final victim and the waters. they may pull war wreckage from the river today. -- a maple more wreckage from the river today. questions continue about this busy air yet. rick leventhal, how common are incidents like these? >> it depends on where you are. there are only about seven mid- air collisions each year nationally. there are only about 30 airports considered congested. 16,000 airports across the country. that said, there are more than 600,000 licensed pilots across the country. they are taking off and landing every day from airports like this one. in many cases, they do not have

two-way radios. they do have their eyes and ears. they're supposed to talk to each other. in most cases, they do that very safely. on average, seven their collisions each year. bill: you flew over washington, d.c. how congested did you find this e sky? >> we did not see a single plane until labor landing gear this is very close to washington, d.c. i flew with the president of the aopa. his aide and structural -- is an instructional pilot. here's some of what we discussed in the cockpit. >> i have not seen any air traffic since we have been up your. >> you have proven two 0.3 in the on congested airspace, even close to a major metropolitan

area, there's not that much. suddenly, you will not see them until they get fairly close. -- secondly, you will not see them until they get fairly close. >> bruce allowed me to handle the controls. fortunately, he was there to land the plane. bill: why not put a collision avoidance system on these airplanes? is it an issue of cost? >> it is cost. it could be $10,000 for some of these plans that in some cases only cost $40,000. pilots are not anxious to spend that kind of money. in most cases, they do not need the technology. there are only three areas that are congested. they do not necessarily need it. in some cases, it could save lives. bill: rick leventhal, thank you.

megyn: democrats say those opposing health-care reform are becoming disruptive and even violent at these town hall meetings. it was the folks supporting the health care reform plan who apparently got violent at one town hall in st. louis, missouri. >> i do not get wwant to get involved in that at all. megyn: the one on screen right involves the victim, ken, who was there to sell merchandise trade he says he was beaten and kicked and called a racist by members of the union outside of the form. two days later, he found himself in a wheelchair. he and his attorney now say they're going to sue the union as well as those responsible for the attacks on him. since the ordeal, he has become

a poster boy for left-wing mocking, including this picture from a left-wing blog making fun of his injuries. he joins us live along with his attorney. good morning, gentlemen. ken, we saw this videotape of you getting attacked outside this town hall meeting. from this left-wing blog, whose name i will not repeat because we're not going to give them publicity, a picture of you and your wheelchair and have the following caption. "kenneth, the two aea- bagging drama queen." your response? >> however my milking anything? i did not ask for this.

i was there to do a job. that is all i can send. megyn: david, you were there and he was attacked physically. there was no question he was attacked physically. now he is getting a tax, because people think you and your -- he is getting attacked online because people think you are milking this and basically trying to exploit the situation. >> that could be further from the truth. he called me last night and told me he wanted to take this situation, which is such a bad situation for him, and turn it into something positive. kenneth and i have developed a project called project liberty. once he has healed, he will go cross-country teaching children

about liberties and the experience is that he went through so that we can inform the public better as to their fundamental rights and how to protect themselves in the future. megyn: david, we are going to show this tape. it is tough to say. this man holding his shoulder -- you claim this is one of his attackers, correct? >> i cannot see the video. megyn: you can see one man is down. he is an african-american gentleman. you claim that man originally attacked kenneth. >> yes, he initially attacked kenneth. he ran for mayor a few years ago. he blamed the mayor of the major

city of domestic terrorism. megyn: kenneth was just there to sell merchandise. he found himself with a union member in his face calling him the n-word. the next thing you know, the representative punched him in the face. two other union members jump on top of him and yelled racial epithets, and kicked him and punched him. i did not see that on the videotape. explain why i see just one man jumping on top of kenneth. >> the problem is, in the real world, you do not have a camera trained on a fixed point any were expecting a fight to come along. when a fight happens, the eye

witness may have just gotten the tail end of the fight. what you see here is the tail end of the assault. there are three independent eyewitnesses who will corroborate the story. megyn: you said that one man punched him in the face. he went to the ground and then two other union members jump on top of him and kicked him and punched him. this video shows one man but grabbing him and taking him to the ground. >> the first gentleman that put him on the ground was the african-american gentleman. the other gentlemen that put him down again is the white gentleman. there's another man who fled the scene. when he said that a person put him on the ground, the person who put him on the ground was originally the man not shown in this video. megyn: we see you walking around after the attack.

you seemed shaken up, but you seemed physically all right. two days later, thoere was videotape of you in a wheelchair outside of the hospital. this is what has the left-wing blogospher in a tissy. >> it was 97 degrees that day. i spoke to his wife. hshe said he did not feel well enough to come out. i said, there are a lot of people supporting him. megyn: i wanted to ask him why he was in a wheelchair. >> because i was medicated. i had just come from the hospital that night. i was on medication that morning. they have suggested, if you come out, you do not have to stand or

walk or anything, we will just have to sitting down in a builder. that is what i did. megyn: contrary to what the left wing would have us believe online, this is not a picture of you milkying it. this is a picture of you following doctors' orders. >> he laid himself on the ground after people were taking me. megyn: your attacker was suddenly on the ground next to you after he attacked you. >> yes, he was trying to the police officer that his arm was broken. megyn: do you have any affiliation with any of these tea parties? >> no, i was just there doing the job.

i was distributing flags and buttons. the right couple people that work interested in the buttons that i have. i would join them when he walked up and throwing all those derogatory words toward me. megyn: we hope you're doing better. good for you for trying to turn this thing around into something positive. >> thank you. bill: the white house pushing its new web site. it offers people the chance to either smell anything fishy it sees about health care. the white house says it is not compiling an enemies list. what happens to all those he- mae-mails? megyn: things are getting physical at the arlen specter

town hall. >> i was told i could have the microphone and speaker. and then i was lied to because i came prepared to speak. instead, you would not let anybody speak. you handed out to 30 cards. i got news for you. you and your cronies in the government do this kind of stuff all the time. [applause] well, i do not care. i am not a lobbyist with all kind of money to stuff in your pocket so that you can cheat the citizens of this country. so i will leave and you can do what ever the hell you need to do. one day god is going to stand

before you and he is going to judge you and the rest of your cronies up on the hill. [applause] and then you did your just desserterve. i am leaving. >> ok. ok. we have just had a demonstration of democracy, ok. [applause] when the gentleman says he is dissatisfied with the procedure , we have to figure out some way to have an orderly procedure. and hour and a half is a fair amount of time did we have had a lot of notice. -- and we have had a lot of notice other would be a lot of

people here. we had this comment. i made a decision that although he did not have a card to let him speak his piece. if he wanted to leave, he has the right to leave. but he says i'm traveling on -- when he says i'm trampling on constitutional rights, i disagree with him. i am encouraging constitutional rights. i am encouraging constitutional rights by coming here to talk to my constituents. i could be somewhere else. i do not get any extra pay. i do not have any requirement to be here. ok. >> you work for us. >> i am reporting to you. number four. >> i do not want to pay on health care plan that includes the right for a woman to kill

her unborn baby. [applause] is it true this plan is in the health care bill? >> the question is, will there be payments for abortions in the health care bill. first of all, we do not have a bill in the senate, as i have said. what we are looking toward is to have those options -- both options. if you want to have a healthcare plan that does not have payment for abortions, you could have that one. you would not be charged for somebody who has an abortion. if you want a different health care plan, an option, where you can have payment for abortion, there would be a bigger premium. you have the choice of one plan or another.

nobody has to be in a plan to pay for somebody else's abortion. who has no. 5? >> president obama has stated more than once his goal is to have a single-payer system. will you vote for a bill that would make a single-payer system? >> i am prepared to keep single- payer on the table as a matter of consideration and flexibility. [applause] i believe that we're in the informative stage of figuring out what to do. we ought to consider every option. we ought to hear the people out. i know public opinion polls are high in favor of single payer. [boo-ing] >> ok. ok.

i guess you can get a poll anyway you want. my idea is to give the public options on the table. keep single payer on the table did get a sense -- kate single payer on the table. and get a sense of what the american people would like to have. i am flexible. who has the no. 6? >> senator, thank you for being here today. i appreciate that. to me, it is obviously written with the assumption that government has the right to control our lives from prebirth to death. pour the reason, it is not worth considering, it is not worth modifying or amend the

impurities to be dumped. -- it is not worse modifying or amending. it needs to be dumped. [applause] i believe the polls show most people are happy with their health care. very few problems. the illegals. they should not even be here. [applause] i would ask congress to do something to send them home so we do not have to deal with them. there are people who do not want to pay for coverage. let them pay for the service when they get the service. we should not have to provide for that. [applause] there are some people who are both -- who would like to have care and they are unable. president bush used to help those who cannot help themselves. let's focus on those minor problems. let's focus on tort reform. let's focus on helping people carry their coverage over to a new job. [applause]

leave us alone. that is all we would ask. would you leave us alone? [applause] i would like to ask you today if you would commit to working on those problems rather than throwing everything? into? thank you. [applause] >> well, what i commit to working on those problems and not throwing everything into turmoil -- that is a pretty generalized statement that i can agree with. i will stay in touch. i will be back next year. if i am reelected, i will be that the year after that. who has no. 7? >> thank you for coming, arlen specter. >> let me answer more fully. i do not want to see turmoil. you do not want to see turmoil.

we want a sensible answer. we have series of problems. we need to take them up one by one. we need to figure out what the problem is and what is the way we should deal with it in a democracy? let me move on to no. 7. >> thank you. i am a republican, but i am first and foremost a conservative. i do not believe this is first about health care. it is not about tarp. it is not about left and right. this is about the systematic dismantling of this country. i'm only 35. i have never been interested in politics. you have awakened a sleeping giant. we're tired of this. i do not want this country turning into russia, turning into a socialist country. [applause]

my question for you is, what are you going to do to restore this country back to what our founders created according to the constitution? [applause] that is what we want. [applause] >> well, there are a few people who did not stand up in a plot, but not too many. i get a fairly firm message. -- there are a few people who did not stand up and applaud. i get a firm message. when you asked me to defend the

constitution, that is what i have been doing. [boo-ing] >> we have had warrantless wiretaps that i have objected to. we have signed statements that undercut what the legislature has passed. we have had supreme court nominees whom i have insisted follow the constitution and not make law. in our social compact, we have a provision to see to it that we take care of people who need help. and we have many people who are need of assistance on health care. i have a number of people with me today who have very tragic

stories to tell about their own situations. we want to maintain constitutional law and i am committed to do that. next. number 8. nine. >> thank you, senator. we appreciate you showing courage, coming to visit. i would like to ask you a question. could i see a show of hands in the room, please, of sharing views with our elected officials. [inaudible] >> do you have a question for the senator? >> give him the microphone. >> thank you, senator.

can i see a show of hands for the people in this room who believe we have the right to share our views with our elected officials? take that to nancy pelosi. >> amen. >> i am in opposition of this health care. the government has not done anything right. a pennsylvania citizen passed to the question, with the result of social security, medicare, medicaid bankrupt, and you're taking our kids future and driving it right into the toilet. we cannot afford this. keep the government out of it. we are doing just fine. thank you, sir. [applause] >> well, i have made a commitment earlier today that i will not vote for a plan that adds to the deficit. next question, no. 10.

>> senator i'm on to tell you -- senator, i have spent two weeks on my own trying to read that bill and try to understand it. it is like a russian novel. in the bill itself, is has many times the requirement for plain language. it is very difficult to understand. it is very difficult. this is the most important bill in my lifetime. my granddaughter will pay for this bill in its present form, whatever form that is. i have three very important concerns that i would like to share. obama talks about $600 billion. the congressional budget office talks about $1 trillion.

i have spent 40 years in government and i have never seen a program, and at the right price and stay at that price. [applause] although the bill says nothing about abortion or reproductive rights, i have read that very carefully. there are nine amendments in the senate and the house which have attempted to prevent taxpayer funding in that bill -- rejected. senator cocburn and hatch -- they have been rejected. it does say there will be no health care until you are born. when the baby is in the mother, we do not count that as a percentage i can cite the page and the line.

it says, "at the time of birth." >> [inaudible] >> go ahead. >> i have spent 35 years in information technology. i have read this bill very closely. you are about to concentrate more information about more pennsylvanians and americans in this bill in one place, and the computers of washington, that has ever occurred. the congressional budget office says it gives you the right to enter, using our internal revenue service, and page 58 talks about entering our own accounts. financial responsibility has to be ascertained. massachusetts has tried something like this.

tennessee has tried something like this. why don't we take a look at what has worked and what has failed? and maybe start in a blue state. give it all we have got in at one state, but do not concentrate all this power in the bureaucrats and their computers in washington. you will be gone. the bureaucrats will still be there. we do not know their names. we do not know their faces, but they will be making our decisions for us and for my children. [applause] [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- [applause] >> when you raised the question on costs, i can only renew my commitment not to add to the deficits.

when you talked about abortion, the law in the united states -- public monies cannot be used for abortions. >> [inaudible] >> i heard you. let me respond to your points. the senate bill has not yet been written. i do not believe there will be any change in the amendment to this lady asked a question about whether people would have to pay a health plan for somebody else's abortion. the answer is no for the reasons i gave her. when you talk about

massachusetts, we are studying their plan very closely. with respect to privacy, we will do everything we can to stop people from breaking into the files. no. 11. >> good morning, senator. my name is joe. in a public schoolteacher. i am looking at the sunday patriot news from august 2. reading the bill requires expertise. one of my roles as a teacher is to teach my children how to think, how to read, and how to understand. over 100 years ago, we had a gentleman who was a republican at gettysburg who said we will provide the understanding.

the government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. the editor says, and they cite hr-3200, which in my panic is a complete halt its focus -- it is complete mumbo jumbo. "the social security act -- and it goes on. since this team has been in washington, there has not been a thing missing in the house, and the senate's -- there has not been a thing written in the house or the senate that average americans can read or understand without having a team of 10 to read, understand and interpret.

the last bill, cap and trade, have pencil marks editing. if you wish to be remembered in congress by the american people, when you get back, sponsor legislation that requires every house and senate bill to be written at a junior high school level. that is what we need in america today. [applause] >> i will try. number 12. >> yes, good morning. i have a simple yes or no question. will you ever vote for a bill that gives in on u.s. citizens access to a taxpayer paid free

health? >>? -- free health service? >> i will not support a bill that gives health coverage to illegal immigrants. [applause] >> #13. who has 13? >> good morning. president obama and you have constantly stated that we will be allowed to keep our current plans, but how can we keep them if they do not exist? hr-3200, why does this bill and pose a payroll tax on employers who will not use the public option? [applause]

how many americans work for these employers with payrolls that exceed $251,000, and what will happen to them when the employers drop their current coverage because they cannot afford a 2% to 8% payroll penalty tax? [applause] >> the tax is going to be directed only to the companies which do not have health coverage. it is not going to added tax to companies which have health care. so that, as represented, if you like your current plan, you can maintain it. >> [inaudible]

>> well, let me say to you that i will not support a senate bill that has that kind of requirement. [applause] who has the next question? 15? >> hi, i am from lebanon. thank you for coming to i have been working in health care for the last 30 years. i am in desperate and went to school in philadelphia pay my husband works in health care as well. -- i am a nurse in philadelphia. when i graduated in nursing school, i was doing with a lot of the issues we're still dealing with.

our country does not have wonderful preventative health care measures. those lead to chronic diseases and use the money in the wrong way. i'm happy were dealing with health care reform. i think it is something our country needs. i realize that a lot of people do not feel that way. there are also a lot of us who do feel that way. [applause] >> we are struggling with the microphone here. i am all wired up. thank you for your positive comments. i knew that if i looked hard enough in this large group, i would find someone who likes the health care plan. thank you. >> thank you. who has the next number? >> [inaudible]

[applause] >> good morning, senator. i would just like to tell you that i'm here on my own accord. nobody paid me. i am not part of the aster tastf group. my question for you today is -- i agree with the woman over here who has indicated that there has to be some work done to our health care. unfortunately, it is not this bill. [applause] >> what would you like to see done? >> some of the things i would like to see done are -- >> for retort reform.

>> yes, tort reform. some of the things you have addressed already. one of them was non u.s. citizens health care. you have indicated that he will not vote for a bill that has a non-u.s. citizens' health provisions within it. i'd recommend that we do what new york does for the homeless. we can take the non-u.s. citizens and give them an airplane ticket and shipped them back. [applause] >> in addition to the bill, there's also that you had indicated that you will always be able to go back to our original health-care. my health care is not too much different than yours, senator. i can hire or fire my doctor as the police.

-- as i please. unfortunately, there's page after page of this bill that appears to go to a single payer system. ok. ok, there is the if-factor. we are not scared, senator. we are not. what we want is trust. apparently, in washington, d.c., there is no trust. the american people do not like what is going on. [applause] senator, in your twilight of career -- >> absolutely not. [laughter] >> one of the things that you could do that would make it extremely memorable for yourself is to go back and propose a bill for term-limits. [applause]

>> the people of pennsylvania can impose term limits on the anytime they want to. that is democracy. who has the next number? 16, you are up. >> i have a question on page 58 and page 59 of this bill, which gives the government access to private individual bank accounts at their free will. we have worked long and hard for what we have. sir, if i want to spread wealth around, it will be to my

children, to my grandchildren, to my community, too much to my church, to my choosing. i would think that is unconstitutional. i know it is definitely un- american. you look at that when you go back. [applause] i think you need to vote like an american. i think you need to vote no. [applause] >> i will not support a bill which gives the government the right to get the bank account information of a private citizen. [applause] the lady has cited a house bill to repeat -- the lady has cited a house bill. to repeat, we have not gotten a senate bill. i will not support any bill that gives the government the right to find out what any citizen has

in his or her bank account. who has the next number? who has a number 17? yes, sir? >> good morning, senator specter. i was a republican committee person when you were elected. we supported you. now you defective. i cannot understand why you did not come to the people before you switched to the democrats. that is not my problem. the lady was asking about the government's right to go into the bank accounts of the people to the right of the people to be secure. shall not be violated. there are so many problems with this obama government.

>> amen. >> when i was elected to public office, i agreed to support and defend the constitution. i have always tried to do that. in an american to my family came here 300 years ago for liberty and freedom. now our liberties and freedoms are ruinning causally. i have so many questions. i do not know about the takeovers and tarp, but what about this guantanamo closure? i do not want these criminals to come to our area and they escaped and we find a bunch of innocent people have been murdered. that is what is going to happen. did you ever read the koran, senator? >> no.

>> is says that all unbelievers should be executed. killed. that is why i cannot support islam. i believe in the jewish and hebrew christian philosophy. i support that. i do not support any other direction. if somebody wants to read the koran, fine. i can show you where it is. >> the gentleman raises a question about what the koran says about destroying the christian world. there's no doubt that there's a big problem of terrorism. a threat which result carried out on 9/11. on the issue of guantanamo, the

congress has spoken to insist that guantanamo be kept open until there is a plan. there are some in guantanamo who have to be tried in federal courts. if you have to be tried in federal court, that is in the united states. there are ways on maximum security to see to it that there will not be risks. guantanamo is still open and it will be open until there's a plan which will protect american citizens. no. 18? yes, sir. >> good morning, senator. house resolution 3200 section 410 imposes a 2.5% tax on

persons without "acceptable health care coverage." define acceptable. wouldn't you agree that every american has the right to choose their own health insurance based on cost and terms. would you vote for senate jilbil that has the same provision? >> the provision decided it imposes a 2.5% tax on people who do not have acceptable health care insurance. that is too vague to have my support. [applause] who has the next number? 19? 19? yes, sir? >> i want to know why the government feels they have to buy a car company that makes

cars the nobody wants. [applause] >> that is the most sustccint question of the day. why does the government want to save a company that makes cars that nobody wants? there's no sensible answer to that. let me take a whack. we're trying to get all the people who are employed by the manufacturer to keep a job. we're trying to get all the people who have supplies to general motors and chrysler -- the there are a lot of people to try to keep at work. and to try to give a lot of dealers open. we are trying to do that by

directing general motors to stop making cars that nobody wants to buy. and we are trying to to restructure what they're doing. listen. it is a tough balance when you have the automobile manufacturers in this country going down. ford has been able to make it. gm and chrysler have not. they have gone through bankruptcy. the copulation is -- the calculation is that they can be saved and we're trying to do that. who has the next number? no. 20? >> i would like a sausage and sauerkraut, please.

you can feel the tension in this room. you can understand that these people. . why don't you do this? why don't you let us know who is writing these bills, senator. you do not have time to read them. do not take up the wrong way. let us know what their political affiliations are. let us know who's the they sat at. why don't you make the public? if you think that we want health care reform so badly, do this. make it a referendum. we will tell you if we like it or not. [applause] >> well, that is a fascinating idea to have a referendum. we do not have any mechanism for it on the federal government.

they have them in california. >> you do not have a bill yet in the sun enate. >> that is one of the ideas i will take back to washington, a referendum. >> thank you. [applause] >> who has #21? >> [inaudible] nancy pelosi and everybody else. i am here for my children to my daughter is 16. my son will be 20. he is going back for his sophomore year of college. he is a premed student. president obama said the health- care plan will not allow any more deficit. the initial cost is $1 trillion for a down payment. who is going to pay for this bill? how do you expect my son, who is working his way through college,

and my daughter will be going to college, and you're not going to tax the middle class people? that would be my husband and myself, who is out working for our health care today. my children and my grandchildren will pay for this bill. how am i to tell them that is acceptable? [applause] >> the plan to keep it deficit neutral is based on specific savings. for example, medical research and the national institutes of health, which i have sponsored, has cut down the mortality of breast cancer and strokes. i was the beneficiary, having hodgkin's, of chemotherapy developed by the national institutes of health, which have saved lives and save the money.

there are requirements for physical examinations on an annual basis. if you had a physical exam, you would have early detection on things like heart disease or ovarian cancer, or many problems. if people have early detection, they do not develop chronic illnesses, which are very expensive. one of my ideas based on been district attorney of philadelphia is to insist on jail sentences for people who engage in medicare and medicaid fraud. people are convicted consistently, and they get fines, which is just another license to do business. these are provisions which will

provide a very substantial savings that are calculated to offset people who are now uninsured, and offset the cost of having part d for seniors. who has number 21? you had a part b? you want to have a dialogue? >> when the money runs out in this program, like it did in the cash for clunkers program in four days, where is this money going to come from? >> well, i have -- >> [inaudible] >> there will not be rationing.

i have given you as much detail as i can on the savings. >> senator specter, section 1223 of the proposed health-care plan -- what could i possibly ask you to make you read this plan? what it says is, as a 74-year- old man, if you develop cancer, we're pretty much going to write you off because you are no longer a working citizen who will be paying taxes. what are you going to do about it? yours year because of the plan we have now -- you are here because of the plan we have now. >> you're just not right. nobody 74 is going to be written off because they have cancer. that is a vicious, malicious, untrue rumor.

who has the next number? >> i don't believe you. >> thank you, senator. just for the record, i am opposed to the health care. people are doing a fine job asking about that. there are a couple other issues. thank you for opposing the car- check legislation. [applause] it would have denied people secret ballot. i appreciate that vote. it is coming around again. this time, you will not give employees time to gather information and make an honest judgment as to if they want to join a union or not. if they put a five-day or 10-day provision, that is high-pressure salesmanship.

if somebody starts putting pressure on me, my answer is no. it is how these bills are being forced through washington right now. that is what the union wants to do to employees. that is not right. give them time to think about it. give them time to study the issues and make an honest vote. on cap and trade, this is the largest single tax on the american people we have ever seen. [applause] cap and trade will increase our elected bills by 40% to 50% and could potentially double our gasoline and diesel fuel taxes. this will decimate what is left of our industrial sector. [applause] major manufacturers will have no choice but to leave this nation. we will have unemployment, not that 10%, we will have on the planeunemployment of 20%.

they could go to india or china and have lower wages that have lower cost. what is going to keep them? [applause] >> you have raised two very important questions. on cap and trade, the house has passed a bill which i agree with you has a lot of problems. we have not gotten a bill in the senate. we understand the concerns to have race. we will take them up and see to it that we do not have the consequences of exporting jobs or imposing a great tax. raised the question of employee's choice. that bill is in the process of being negotiated. there will not be a time line which will be so fast that the

people will not have an opportunity to understand what the issue is. you have to maintain a secret ballot, which you agree with. we are trying to work through arbitration. we're very high-minded the concern to have raised. no. 24. yes, sir? >> in 1997, i was diagnosed with a thyroid condition that put me in the hospital in a coma. i need to thank all the taxpayers for paying for four years of hospitalization for me because i did not have a plan by could afford at the time.

i spent a lot of time in the library is studied computer systems and got a job in an insurance company where i saw a lot of corruption. when i reported that to my boss, i was fired. will you support provisions that will end that kind of corruption in the insurance companies to bring our rates down as at stop making policyholders and investors pay for that kind of activity? [applause] >> what are you referring to specifically that the insurance company did or does the you do not like? >> i was in charge of writing up proposals. my superiors wanted me to steer those proposals toward expensive

companies that they could get kickbacks from. when i discovered that and reported it, they made life very difficult for me and i was fired. >> i am glad to hear about the early part where you got the care that you needed and appear to have recovered. if there is any provision which allows kickbacks, that is bribery. i would oppose that totally. who has #25? >> [inaudible] >> will i support legislation opening up accountability for the companies? absolutely. that is what we're moving toward. yes, sir? >> first, senator, thank you for being here. my question comes from my own

personal experience as a working professional. i have lived for two years each in canada and two years in london to the health-care system in those two countries are rereleasesimilar to the proposel that is going through now. in canada, my tax rate was 60% for my free health care. [applause] i am opposed to the whole idea. i have a private health-care and i am very happy with it. my question relates to question425 of the bill, which according to my interpretation, requires seniors -- folks like

us, senator -- to have mandatory counseling for dieying with dignity. that is kind of scary. i am still a very happy, healthy professional. i am not in my twilight. i think you would agree with that. i am offended by this required counseling. i would like to hear your view on that issue. [applause] >> i am opposed to mandatory counseling. you and i and others can get counseling if we want it, and we can think through our own issues. we have families to discuss matters with. nobody ought to order anybody who is competent to get mandatory counseling. it is a personal decision.

[applause] #26? yes, sir? >> thank you for coming. as a disabled vet, i want to speak for the vets. i want to shake your hand. i respect you for being who you are. most of my questions have been answered. i will go on a different tangent. this is only the beginning of what is happening to america. [applause] people better wake up. we have a bunch of bureaucrats who are robbing us blind. they have been stealing from us for years. there is nobody to stand up and represent us. i would like you to go back to washington and tell everybody that you're an american first,

and you are going to represent us. i do not care what party you are. >> i am glad to hear that. >> the bottom line is that we are americans first. i am personally sick and tired of the rendells of harrisburg. [applause] i am sick and tired of our young men and women used as pawns around the world. all we hear about is how corrupt russia is and how corrupt north korea is. where do you see an honest man in politics from here to washington? [applause] so my question to you, would you go back to washington and represent us first as an american, and tell mr. obama he is in american american?

[applause] >> i think president obama knows he is an american. when you asked me to make a commitment to represent america first, i will say absolutely yes. who has #27? megyn: and there you have it. an extraordinary showing how the pennsylvania as we watch for the past hour nonstop, an informed, articulate, and very concerned group of american people take their questions directly to their elected representative, senator arlen specter. they had some very tough questions. this is american democracy at work. this will not provide fodder for

those who describe these folks as angry mobs or describe them as un-american. will provide a lot of fodder for debate as many people raise many questions. some were answered in full. others were not fully answered. these are the concerns we have been hearing from our viewers and from american citizens. we're interrupting it for one reason. that is because we have some news we need to get to you now. bill: just north of atlanta, a four foot by four foot swastika was painted on a congressman's office. david scott is the congressman. what happened? >> we will up this morning and my staff called me and said that there was a swastika painted on the sign. it is very unfortunate. i feel very bad about it.

bill: it has been reported to capitol hill police. i know an investigation will be launched immediately. when there is more information, we love to hear from you and your office. ironically, the reason we brought you on our broadcast today was to talk to you about an event that occurred over the weekend. we have a doctor on air yesterday. he asked a question about health care. this fund back-and-forth. this is part of the exchange that occurred. >> we have got to take political ideology out of the spirit we have to take out the shouting and screaming. we need to look to do what is right for america. my concern is, after my interaction with congressman scott, and i have yet to have my question answered. bill: that was dr. hill yesterday. this is what he was responding to. >> not a single one of you have

the decency to call my office and set up a meeting. ok. do that. do that, but do not taken advantage of what these individuals have done. you want a meeting with me on health care? i will give it to you. bill: we draw the doctor on yesterday to find out what he was looking for. he seemed to have a simple question. why do you support a single payer system? >> let me answer that. first, i appreciate coming on so i can explain the context in which those pictures and the tape that you have. it was put together and edited

and so forth. bill: i have watched the whole clip. it aired on channel 11 in georgia. i watched the whole thing. this gentleman whether and he was told that at the end of this four-hour session, there were told they could ask what ever they wanted to. he waited four hours to ask you about health care reform. >> would you please give me a chance to explain myself? if you are going to judge me, judge me rights. you brought me on. allow me to explain the context. first, there were no news cameras. that tape was taken from channel 11 that came back to douglas ville and took the city take an edited to show what they wanted to show. that is fine. that is america. allow me to explain why i was so

passionate. this was a meeting that was put together by the people of douglasville. it was not my town hall meeting. there was a and $80 million highway that we're planning to take to the heart of that community. in the heart of the community, it would destroy 68 homes and businesses. 80% of those are owned by african-americans and hispanics who feel they were disenfranchised. they set up this meeting. it was not about health care. bill: they were told they could ask about anything they wanted at the end. this is what he is telling us. >> he is not telling you the truth. bill: with all due respect, what he said he is looking for is data and numbers to support your position as to why a single payer system is the way america should go. >> i will answer that, but i do

want to make sure that everybody understands why i was so passionate. i was standing up for the people of douglasville. they were disrespected. that is what i meant when i said please do not take advantage of these folks. if you like a meeting with me, i would be glad to do it. they never did that. bill: he said he did. we are really tight on time. i am just looking for an answer. why do you support a single payer system? >> i do not support a single payer system. i do support have been something, whether it is an option or not. we can work with that. we need something to have leverage so we can get the insurance companies to bring down prices. the only way to do that is to have an alternative. maybe it is not that. not there yet. i am working with this. i am the only african american

member of congress. that means i work with everybody. there are so many diverse opinions on this. i understand what everybody has said. give us a chance. this is a complicated issue. bill: sir, thank you for coming on today. i appreciate your candor. >> thank you. bill: we will get back to the doctor and see how this turns out. >> i would love to talk to you again. megyn: there's a lot going on as the arlen specter town hall winds down. david lee miller is grabbing some of the people use all and some of the people who did not get to be heard. they're only 30 questions. he is grabbing them at the senator arlen specter town hall meeting to inquire more about whether we will be paying for abortion with these taxes that will go into this bill, and whether the senator is getting

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megyn: this is a fox news alert. still watching the end of the senator arlen specter town hall. it is wrapping up. we have our own david lee miller on the scene. we will bring you more of the voices you have heard for the past hour on "america's newsroom." we had an entire program planned for you. sometimes there are events that are so compelling that we take them live in their entirety because it is clearly what the american people want to see. that's town hall meeting was a compelling event. we have heard so many things about these and we have seen sound bites from different events. this was one you saw from almost start to finish.

you've got to hear for yourself whether the people in pennsylvania were in fact behind the health care reform bill or not. whether they qualified as angry mobs. whether they seemed un-american did did they seem organized or did they seem cru grass-roots? are you convinced that no matter what you saw at this meeting, those charges may be true at other meetings? we will stay on this. first, the moment that started it all. >> and -- >> [inaudible] >> you want to be led out of here? you are welcome to go. now, wait a minute. wait a minute. wait a minute. >> i have every right to leave.

>> he has a right to leave. he is right. wait a minute. when they myou want to leave? leave. >> i am going to speak my mind before i leave. i called your office and i was told i could speak. i was lied to because i came prepared to speak. instead, you would not let anybody speak. you handed 30 cards out. i have news for you. you and your cronies in the government to do this kind of stuff all the time. [applause] well, i do not care. i am not a lobbyist with all

kinds of money to stuff in your pocket so that you can sheet to the -- so that you can cheat the citizens of the country. so i will leave and you can tdo whatever the hell you please. when they got is going to stand before you and he is going to judge you and the rest of your cronies on the hill. and then you'll get your just desserts. i am leaving. megyn: the problem for that gentleman was senator specter gave 30 cards. 30 people were able to ask questions. they have to set limits because they -- in any event, he did not get the card. they got a little physical. you watched how it unfolded.

in all, it was a respectful hour of q&a, back-and-forth. the senator was gracious in his responses. somebody asked him about care for the elderly and suggested that a 74-year-old with cancer would be essentially written off under the new plan offered by the democrats. he pointed out that arlen specter, who has had bouts with cancer, would not have benefited in the way he did in terms of his health care. the senator got very angry and he said it was a vicious, malicious falsehood. now the debate will continue outside of this town hall as folks file and come to archemorucameras.

bill: there was a lot of debate on how these folks have handled these meetings. there was another clip from this meeting today. it is a 35-year-old woman. she was in a green shirt. she said she was not politically active and that was the first time she had attended a meeting like this. you will see that in minutes. from the outside, do we have that ready? from the outside to the inside, let's go to david lee miller. >> for the most part, it was uneventful. at least one of those in attendance was asked to leave the hall after he made a brief statement. a number of people confronted the senator about where he stood on health care reform. the majority of those in attendance clearly opposed the obama proposed reforms.

30 people got to ask questions. by my count, all but one of them said that they opposed the health care reform. the senator will attend another town hall meeting later today. as he spoke, there were about 100 demonstrators outside to voice their opinions. there were state police and local police outside. i am told that for the most part, there were no serious incidents. with me right now is one of those who was in attendance today. why did you come here today? >> i got my invitation in the mail. i wanted to express myself about the health-care proposal from house. >> were you satisfied with what happened today? >> i appreciate the senator commented i thought he might council -- i appreciate the senator coming.

he seems very much aware of what he has in the bill did we had to inform him. he seemed to be awakened. >> are you angry about some of the criticism directed to the opponents of health care reform, especially in light of nancy pelosi's article in usa today? >> i am furious that the obama administration, the speaker, hoyer -- really, that is how the president made his living before he was elected to office. we have the right to speak. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that was one of the important issues that was also addressed today. and number of people said they were absolutely appalled that -- they perceive to the fact that their constitutional right of free speech was tossed out. one woman wore a t-shirt that

said "crowd member of the mob." it was reasonably a well-behaved crowd. bill: david lee miller, thank you. to our viewers at home, remember, it was arlen specter's meeting with kathleen sebelius about two weeks ago in philadelphia the started to get the ball rolling on these town hall meetings and the attention that was driven to them. it was on a sunday afternoon. the two of them work getting an earful. megyn: to his credit, he stood there and he answered the questions. a lot of these senators and congressmen will not do it. there will not have any town hall meetings. he did it. that is what we need are lawmakers to do, to talk to the constituents. our top lawmaker, president

obama is on the hot seat next. bill: at 1:00 p.m., he will be in new hampshire. the people have gathered there for hours. we will see you tomorrow right here on "america's newsroom." . .