$5.99 for a endless platter of fries and wings. steve: another reason to watch "fox & friends." it has been a great couple of days. see you soon. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill: 9:00 in new york city, we are going to start with new polling numbers showing the number of americans that are unhappy with the plan to nationalize health care. support is dropping to a new low. 42% of u.s. voters favor the plan. opposition to the plan is that 53%. a new poll challenges the president's road trip when pitching health care reform. we had a heck of a show yesterday. i had no idea what we were walking into when the town hall meeting was interrupted in pennsylvania. megyn: fascinating. bill: senator chuck grassley has a meeting today in iowa, we will

keep an eye on that as well. megyn: by the way, to all of you that wrote in thanking us for airing the town hall, you are more than welcome. that was extraordinary to watch. you do not expect those moments to come along each and every day, but when you get them, you show them. these polls confirm what we have already seen across the country. americans are concerned about the proposed changes to their health care. those concerns were not voice at a different town hall yesterday, a town hall conducted by president obama in new hampshire. critics are asking how it was that the president found so many fans of reform in one place. bill: it was a pack house. -- packed house. how did the white house explain this? >> they defended it, saying that

they did not stackhouse, but that among the 1800 people, 7% were able to get tickets on a web site. about 30% were given to local officials and other organizations. they said that they did not go out of their way to screen people. that they were not willing to get into why the questions were friendly last night. they basically said that they were not sure that it was respect for the office or what, but they were happy with the questions. bill: it look like the president was inviting tougher questions a couple of times. >> absolutely right. he joked at one point that if he did not get tough questions that people would be concerned that they were a bunch of plants in the audience. several observations. going into a presidential event, there is a great deal of security. you have your background check out by secret service.

there is a lot more formality than compared to the one you had on your show yesterday. it is much more difficult to make a -- to make trouble for the president when it is for say senator mccaskill. bill: what have we learned about the 11-year-old girl that asked a question? >> julianna ask the president to explain why critics were saying mean things about his health care plan. we found out that her mother had contributed money multiple times to president obama. she has been to the white house for the easter egg roll. clearly an example of someone friendly to the president. a der supporter of the president. that 11-year-old girl was on the campaign trail with him in 2008. bill: more coverage from the white house, thank you.

megyn: the president says that he wants to set the record straight. he is not alone. he took the opportunity to address concerns by this health care reform push will move us towards a single payer system like the one in canada. listen to what he said yesterday. >> i have not said that i was a single fire supporter because frankly we, historic way, have had a employer based system in this country. for us to transition to a system like that, i believe that would be too disruptive. megyn: the president's statement does not jive with his view a few years ago. here is the illinois state senator barack obama in 2003. >> i happen to be a proponent of single payer health care. universal health care plans. that is what i like to see.

megyn: where does the president released and? we will pose that question to bill burton, white house deputy spokesman, joining us in the next hour. bill: word has it that he cannot wait to come on. megyn: does he miss me? [laughter] bill: we will find out. another statement from the president this morning, he made a couple of statements about the aarp's support for reform. >> we have them on board because they know that this is a good deal for our seniors. first of all, another myth that we have been hearing about is this notion that we will somehow be cutting our medicare benefits. we are not. aarp would not endorse a bill if it was undermining medicare. bill: ok. turns out that the aarp is on board. right after the president's town

hall meeting they issued this statement -- indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills under consideration in congress are inaccurate. we will keep checking on that. megyn: a fox news exclusive out of afghanistan this morning. u.s. marines are launching an air and ground assault on the taliban. operation eastern resolve, as it is called, aims to liberate a key town from taliban control. our own greg is the only american television correspondent embedded with the marines on the ground for this mission. what is the latest? >> we are reporting to you from the taliban infested town of dana. we are with a golf company. we have been hearing sporadic gunfire between the marines and the taliban for the past hour.

before that we heard a lot more. take a look at what the marines and we experienced today. >on the ground for about four hours, they have neutralized some of the taliban, but there are more out there. they are ready to be killed. the aim of this operation is to clear the taliban from this town. they say that from our own immediate exposure, myself and the cameraman and both say that the taliban do not want to go. day through a broad of weaponry at the marines today. small arms, mortar fire, rpg's, even an ied that had to be defused right in front of our vehicle. there were a lot of close calls today. incredibly, no u.s. casualties.

on the taliban side the captain of the marines said that there were several taliban fighters killed because the u.s. was giving as good as it got and that then some. missiles and an air drop a bomb on the taliban. the reaction of the local? hard to gauge. they have been huddling in side today, supposed to stay inside because of the fighting. we have been told that the taliban has been victimizing the people in this town and they could very well like the afghan government and security here. this mission is far from over, there are a lot of bad guys still have their inside of this town. the closest call we have seen, 30 yards away, a taliban fighters. megyn: thank you so much. bill: a tough part of the world

to do fighting like that. yesterday president obama address what he called rumors about health care proposals, including one in which they want to kill grammy. what could these so-called end of life provisions mean? fair and balanced debate, coming up between two doctors. >> i have got two teenagers. what do you think that we will accomplish if no one can talk? what is the point? megyn: senator claire mccaskill addressing angry people at a town hall. why are the people so upset in missouri? answers are after the break. bill: a television star accused of murder help the ratings. megyn: never thought of that. bill: not yet we have not. megyn: cannot make this up. ♪ are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement

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megyn: new evidence that cops might be zeroing in on michael jackson's personal doctor in their investigation into the pop star's death. a new raid on a las vegas pharmacy has turned up evidence that dr. conrad murray legally purchased a powerful anesthetic at that pharmacy. perhaps, the theory is, he took it across state lines. it is supposed to be administered only in hospitals. just another in a string of beads tying the death of michael jackson to this doctor and his practice.

bill: yesterday afternoon we saw their mccaskill get a tough time in her town hall meeting. many people are struggling to understand a critic in the town hall yesterday. >> i do not understand this. what is this? i do not get it. i honestly do not get it. do you think if you are persuading people when you shout out like that? you do not trust me? [yelling] i do not know what else i can do. i do not know what else i can do. if you want me to go home -- bill: give her credit for trying, right? she gets points for showing up. mcgraw runs a radio show in missouri. what is in the water out there?

>> we are all showing our constitution i guess. i agree, you have got to give her credit. she stood there for a good two hours and tried to take questions. the interesting thing is that they had every one put a question into a fish bowl. when she said that they would take questions randomly, people booed. they were even doing the process -- booing the process. bill: they probably did not trust the process. but that comment that she made, to 500 or 1000 people, she asked if they trusted her. many of them responded. why? >> i think that they do not trust her. nobody knows what to believe. so, i think that when you try to ask a question of a senator, her

or arlen specter, and she gives you an answer, i do not think that these people were going to vote for her anyways. she asked how many people were on medicare or medicaid, 80% of the people raised their hand. she asked how many no longer wanted it, they put their hands down. i do not know what these people wanted other to scream and yell. bill: do you think that there was progress made? at one point she said that the sad thing was that all the they show on the news tonight is what happened here. she was indicating that there was a back and forth between people in the audience while she continued on stage. frankly, she was right. that is the clip that is getting the attention. >> when someone is arrested at a town hall meeting, that is news. the news in st. louis was that this one was ok, only one person

was arrested. that should not be the benchmark. i think that comments from people that day, at least at the end, they gave her credit for standing there, answering questions, taking what the audience had to give her. at least she got some respect from many of the people. bill: it is my sense that there is a bigger picture here, based on the people turning out. it is not just about health care anymore. it goes back to t.a.r.p., the auto bailout, the stimulus and the threat of a climate bill in the house. now it is health care. a lot of folks out there in the rest of the country are wondering what they are doing in washington. they see this giant bulldozer of government coming their way. >> i think that it is much more partisan than that. you saw it in the obama town

hall meeting, there was much more respect. probably many more people sympathetic to his views there rather than the one yesterday with claire mccaskill. there are people, when obama won the election, he had 55% of the vote? up 45% of the people did not vote for him. no matter what a president does, they will have a large and vocal portion of the public that does not like what he is doing. bill: interesting conversation. thank you for coming on. claire mccaskill was on our show last friday, we are trying to get her back. she continues these town hall meetings in the state of missouri. as we say, stay tuned. megyn: so many of these lawmakers show up at the town hall meetings, hoping to convince constituents to support the bill. what do the people want? they want to be heard.

they also want to convince the lawmakers to not vote for the bill. bill: i tell you what, we have got a great because you asked later today. you will be stunned by how many members of congress are not holding any town hall meetings at all. five weeks of recess, this will weigh on their entire political careers. megyn: can you imagine saying that i will lead to that? well, when a television host of a popular crime show tried to boost ratings, it turns out that he made that happen. the chilling crimes committed by this man to beat the competition. >> you want me to tell me what my husband thinks? my husband is not the secretary of state, i am. bill: we have got new developments, hillary clinton in

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bill: breaking news out of california, near truckee in the lake tahoe area. the man believed responsible for the shooting deaths of two people in placer county has been arrested by highway patrol. this is nathaniel burris, picked up on highway 80 near the town of baxter. he had provoked a statewide search and airport alert after he fled the scene of a shooting that killed a 51-year-old female toll collector, a man in his 40's in a toll plaza parking lot as well. they think that they have their

man. nathaniel burris, a arrested in the middle of the night. it was confirmed earlier today, though the details regarding the circumstances of how they tracked him down and captured him were not immediately available. 6:04 in the morning in california, this story is just a couple of hours old. -- a man arrested for the freeway shooting deaths in northern california. megyn: this is a trifecta. top politician, tv show host, and murder suspect. this is unbelievable. this guy is the popular host of a brazilian crime television show. he is under arrest for murder. police say that he and his son ordered the killings to boost ratings for his show. need to cover crime, you have had some occasionally.

gruesome murders, they get better ratings. victims? rival drug traffickers. so, they apparently expected him of dealing drugs. guess how they figured it out. the cameraman arrived at the crime scene before the police so that they could get the exclusive video. can you even believe it? bill: do not give us ideas. megyn: i have my little legal segment, i guess we could do anything. bill: not anything. [laughter] megyn: i am eight months pregnant right now, we could see how dangerous it is. bill: than i would use twitter to cover it. megyn: [laughter] stay tuned for that tomorrow. bill: indeed.

a health care reform plan, some people think it will put seniors on the path towards euthanasia. we have a doctor joining us for a fair and balanced debate later this morning. megyn: millions have seen it, and now we know that it was fake. the slide of all slides. but today we will show you how it was done. ♪

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bill: developing right now, the federal government is getting ready to release new figures on the national deficit. they are big. all of this as congress considers a massive overhaul of health care. stuart varney is here now from the fox business network. good morning. 2008 seemed like a bargain, my friend. we are looking at $59 billion in the red in 2008, $1.80 trillion in 2009? >> more than that, guaranteed. when you think about it, every major economic forecast made by this administration has been wrong. the economy has shrunk more than we thought, unemployment is higher than for the -- higher

than predicted. now the amount of money we are borrowing. take a look at this. this week alone we will borrow $75 billion. that is long-term money. the president says that if we get health care reform it will not add to the amount of money. but we will have to borrow a whole lot more. people with money are asking if we can trust and other financial forecast like this. what if it is wrong? what if it is an extra $1 trillion on the deficit? a concern that we have heard at these town hall meetings constantly. bill: this is the white house that promised to reduce the deficit. how are they doing? >> not well at all. today at 2:00 eastern time we will find out what we expect to be at $180 billion deficit for the month of july. on august 25 we find out what

the entire deficit for the entire year will be. bill: peter orszag ag, i know that he runs a blog. -- peter orszag, i know that he runs a blog. did you find $75 billion a week? >> this week. bill: that goes on our tab every week? >> it does. the deficit, as we call it, the annual amount of money that we are loading up on to the national debt, that is the accumulated debt from previous years. this year the annual deficit, we are already in the hole for $11.70 trillion of accumulated debt. bill: what will that do to was in the end? of less confidence from other countries and other governments? >> yes. foreigners are less prepared to

lend us all of these trillions of dollars. my grandchildren will have to pay for it. every trillion in the national debt is an extra $50 billion per year in interest. bill: nonetheless, coming by to give us good news? that lasted one day. thank you, stuart. megyn: the president at this town hall yesterday, taking issue with those who say that his health-care plan will essentially let brandman die rather than for -- rather than provide her with care. dismissing claims that the plan will encourage euthanasia. but then there is even asia and there is passive euthanasia -- but then there is euthanasia and there is passive euthanasia. does this plan allows for the latter? with us now, two doctors for a fair and balanced debate.

as i see it, there are two issues to get to hear. one, the issue of passive euthanasia. two, the issue of these so- called death panels. i would like to clear up the fact and fiction on this. first, this issue of passive euthanasia. you say that that is a real concern, doctor. tell us what you mean. >> it means withdrawing essential services at the end of life. not killing someone out right, but taking away the things that keep them alive. face it, we are dealing with a situation where the president is trying to cut costs. there are already signs that we are trying to cut medicare to the hospitals and providers. if medicare is cut, there will be fewer services delivered. we know that one out of four

medicare dollars goes to end of life. we have one section that goes over consultation. the point is that we are going to cut services to the elderly, withdrawing care at the end of life, which is passive euthanasia. megyn: you do not agree? >> i have worked with medicare patients for years and they have never told us to withdraw care. we think that medicare is a good model. will be built like to see in single payer is an elimination of gaps and deductibles. megyn: to respond to the doctor's point, this $1 trillion plan will be paid for in part

with medicare. as the doctor pointed out, that will mean less care for seniors. your response? >> i think that that is quite silly to talk about this in terms of euthanasia. it is true that the president's plan will raise costs and still not solve a problem. i absolutely think that euthanasia is just silly. bill: let me show you how not simply that is. a 90-year-old patient goes to the emergency room and the emergency room says that they will not cover a respirator for the patient. we have been telling our -- >> i have worked with medicare for years, i have never had that experience. >> be at the promising our elderly -- we have been promising our elderly for years that we would bring them better treatments, longer and more active lives.

basically, easy keogh and emmanuel advising the president on this, they say that we should look at this in terms of life years. i do not want to say that to my elderly, i do not want to withdraw their care. plenty of 85-year-old, 90-year- old, they deserve that care. >> everyone deserves care. the elderly deserve care. americans without insurance dessert there. tough using it and $50 billion and and even a and eat their, you have to cut administration. megyn: they are not talking about that. keep this on point. let's talk about what they're talking about. let's respond to the doctor's point, if this goes through as proposed, i have a 94-year-old

grandmother, i do not want for showing up at your office saying that you cannot get your procedure because you are 94 and there is not enough life expectancy to justify the procedure. >> there is no evidence that that has happened or that that will happen. i do not support the president's plan because i do not think that it will work, i think it will spend money and not change things enough, but it is false to say that there is going to be euthanasia. that is not true, there is nothing in the plan that would make that true. megyn: if you withhold services, is that not passive euthanasia? >> no one is talking about withholding services. >> page 425 of the house bill, there is a statement stating that you shall have these consultations deciding whether you need antibiotics or hydration.

megyn: we shifted to a different piece of legislation, talking about consultation. this has what -- this is what has people talking about the so- called death panels. tell us what they do and do not require. >> part and parcel of the same thing. you have got to go through special training. if the orientation is to meet with you and plan ahead to when you withdraw antibiotics, when you withdraw hydration -- megyn: how is that different from the living wills that we have had this time that gives them decisionmaking power? >> and grade point. i have got to tell you, as an attorney i want you to realize that those are not binding. living wills, they are overcome by something called the do not resuscitate order. situations need to be made on the ground and in advance.

people do not need to make these decisions under government pressure or with government oversight. >> the only time i was ever pressured to withdraw care was by private health insurance companies. the problem with this plan is that leaves private companies in charge. there is an individual mandate that says that if you are middle income, you must turn your money over to private insurance. worried about cutting care, do not worry about medicare, worry about the private insurance industry. doctors here on america's news room, we appreciated. bill: doctors over here, doctors over there, doctors everywhere. we need them. they are seeing patients every day. they will be affected. megyn: it gives you those practical examples. dr. siegel was right, it is already happening with seniors.

bill: i hear you. in a moment, health care reform, live pictures out of iowa. moments away, chuck grassley, hosting a town hall meeting. what happened? we will find out. megyn: now we know it is a fake. how did they do it? answers.

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-- are conscious and alert. they got some help from locals that put them in flat bed pickup trucks. concerned citizens and emergency personnel. incredibly it appears that these people have survived the crash and are conscious. the airplane went down just after takeoff from the nearby sussex air their -- sussex airport. only two people involved. >> the slip and slide, unbelievable and for you. imagine, just unroll let, they get wet, and the magic service those to -- magic surface goes to work. bill: that is how we used to do

it. that is so 1968. that was then, this is now. roll the clip. yes! he nailed it. [cheering] imagine the rehearsal that this guy went through. 1.4 million people around the world have seen this footage. we are here to bust your balloon. that is not real. we knew that one week ago, actually, but the question was how they did it. lance, pcmag.com. how are you? >> doing good. bill: they were making a spot for microsoft office, the software program. we know that it is not real.

i have looked at this over and over. i cannot figure it out. >> after they got hurt trying it for real, they went through a few steps. the man had a rope attached to him before he started down that slip and slide. bill: if you look really closely behind him, there is a little bit of a rope right there. that is what you are talking about? >> exactly. when you speed up the film, you do not notice. he goes down until you cannot see him, then what comes out the other side? an animated figure. we have seen enough movies to know that they can build anything. bill: you have put the other two pieces. there was a rope attached to the guy and him flying through the air with an animation? >> that is right. computer animation, there does

not have to be anything there. of course, what happens at the pool? clearly, someone goes in and they come hopping out. there was a wooden ramp. the guy jumps in. you can actually hit 2 feet of water at that distance, you would be broken in two. talk about crazy. this is microsoft project, and i went back to try to translate the german. at the end of the video i translated a little bit of it. "a man without fear of big ideas, is it really"? i think that the idea was to try to get this idea across that you can do anything, even something like this. bill: now we can put these pieces together. i told you that i watched it 155 times. if you watched the original

spot, note to the viewer at home, you can see a blue dummy lying in the foreground at the base of the slide. that is what we will call editing, we will fix it next time. we appreciate your debunking that. it was fun, and what you see online you can always trust. megyn: i was a believer. bill: did you have a slip and slide? megyn: of course. it was so fun. bill: going down that hill. megyn: loved this the band's live. remember the other one? bill: good times. megyn: a cross dressing hair dresser finds himself suddenly out of a job. can this man supee the rejection of his fabulous this? b-- fabulousness?

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bill: we have an update from the state department explain the strong reaction that hillary clinton had during a press conference yesterday. the secretary of state snapped at a student over an exchange. >> what of the interference from the world bank against this contract? what does mr. clinton think through that mouth of mrs. clinton? what does mr. [unintelligible]

think of this situation? thank you very much. >> wait, you want me to tell you what my husband thinks? my husband is not the secretary of state, i am. ask my opinion, i will tell you my opinion. i will not be channeling my husband. megyn: [laughter] bill: talk about a slip and slide. we are told that a translator bundled the question, -- gungled the question -- bungled the question, but that secretary clinton is confident in promoting the rights of women. megyn: led me tell you, whatever kind of diplomat she might be, i do not blame her for being ticked off. if i went on a tour for fox news

and everybody wanted to know what my husband thinks, i would be ticked off as well. bill: do you reckon? i just think that men always take the high road. megyn: i said i can understand her anger. bill: there are more delicate ways to manage your answer. megyn: sometimes you just get ticked off. i understand. it is happening right now. [laughter] moving back to the news. 350 people in this country alone, that is the death toll h1n1, swine flu -- that is the death toll for h1n1, swine flu as it used to be known. there is a major trend amongst those who suffer from the virus. corrina, what is the major

trend in those that get the swine flu? >> doctors here at the university of michigan and are calling this discovery striking. by are looking at 10 different patients, all suffering with serious lung conditions related to h1n1, they found that all but one of those patients were obese. many of them complained that they could not brief, very serious stuff. three of them died from complications of pneumonia or organ failure. megyn: interesting. obesity and the swine flu. bill: in a moment, marines are going hard after the taliban. the captain says that this could be a watershed moment in the war. megyn: some of them have been angry, some of them have been respectful. in the next hour, the fight over what is being called the most

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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- megyn kelly you are looking live at the public library in iowa, where chuck grassley is about to hold a town hall on health care. he is not expecting a quiet crowd, for reasons we are about to explain. good morning again, everyone. bill: not just democrats getting an earful these days. senator grassley is a ranking republican on the powerful senate finance committee, one of the leading members of his own party trying to reach a compromise with five other

senators on health care reform. megyn: they call it the gang of six. one member of them, charles grassley. he is extremely popular in iowa. we expect that he is going to get an earful, why? >> because he is negotiating with democrats. there has always been reporting that democrats negotiating with republicans can get too liberal, and there is a foot side. some of the republicans are very conservative. this meeting was supposed to take place inside of the library, but the crowd has overflowed so they have moved it outside. because of charles grassley possible as the only negotiator from the gop working with democrats, there has been a grass-roots attempts to put increased pressure on him.

the first word of the day is likely to be quiet, but later today to be thousands of people. stakes were raised dramatically this week when president obama gave charles grassley and these other senators a big shout out. >> there are some of my republican friends on capitol hill who are sincerely trying to figure out if they can find a health care bill that works. charles grassley of iowa, like an easy of wyoming, olympia snowe of maine. >> as a result of that and the public reporting, there has been a real grassroots organization an effort in putting pressure on them. dozens of small organizations across iowa have been bringing

people out. folks that have that the parties are aggressively organizing to bring big crowds to the town hall meeting later date. that one is set up for a couple of thousand people. megyn: let me ask you, is charles grassley saying anything about being open-minded on this? can his mind be changed about whether this is a good idea to engage in the debate can be opened to health care reform? or has he made up his mind that we need health care reform and that he will work hard to find a way? many of these town hall participants say that they are there to change his mind. >> first of all, if you look across the spectrum of republicans on capitol hill, they almost all agree. the question is how. they agree that prices have skyrocketed and that is something is not done, it can run the risk of hurting the

economy. people as well as business down the road. charles grassley agrees that something has to change, but he has not signed onto a public option. he is against raising the public debt. where is this week spot? where is the compromise? this is inside washington stuff, but charles grassley says that there are at least eight or nine republicans needed to vote on health care reform. right now there are only a few even negotiating. the deal -- idea that they could get them to agree when only a few are left to negotiate, they could get beaten up by this crowd a bit. a pretty heavy notion. megyn: thank you, carl. >> you bet. bill: live pictures from the town hall meeting yesterday, coming from arlen specter's town

hall meeting. many people were asking about abortion. this constituent took it a step further. listen. >> follow that bill says nothing about abortion or reproductive rights, i have read it very carefully. there are nine amendments in the senate and house that have attempted to prevent taxpayer funding in that bill, rejected. they have all been rejected. bill: the answer came back from the senator said the senate bill has not been written, which is a fact. only the house is considering that. as for the man's point, arlen specter never really addressed it. here is what we found out. he was spot on. nine amendments have been proposed and rejected, including one from joke hits, his

amendment would have -- including one from joe pitts. his amendment would have provided exceptions. it was adopted, then rejected. megyn: senator isaacs and, firing back of the president after the president marked him for controversial legislation on end of life counseling. >> the irony is that one of the chief sponsors of this bill originally was a republican named john isaacs and from georgia who sensibly thought that this was something that would expand the options of the people. it has somehow been spun into this idea of death camps. i am not in favor of that. megyn: the senator was quick to respond, blasting those remarks.

"this is what happens when the president does not read the bills. i never consulted with the white house in this process and had no role whatsoever in the democratic bill. this house provision is merely another in it -- of abies attempt at more government mandates and intrusion, more government involvement in what should be an individual choice. bill: shifting gears to operation eastern resolve, southern afghanistan, this will be a critical fight. hundreds of u.s. marines and afghan forces, launching a new offensive deep in the heart of afghan territory. they will try to take back a key town. we hope to get information from kabul in a moment. we are getting bits of reporting from our crew on the ground. gregg has been reporting from southern afghanistan all week

now. we were told that they were met with small arms fire, mortars and rocket-propelled grenades. updates on the battle as it continues, here in "america's newsroom." megyn: one of the biggest jewel heist in british history. sounds like an action movie. these the use made out with $65 million in jewels from a swanky shop. now there are reports of a possible break in the case. bill: we will show you what led one driver to grab a shotgun at a toll booth, shooting twice. megyn: the president says the the white house is trying to debunk myths about health care, but using a white house web site that could lead to a white house enemies list. we will take a closer look at what is happening when bill burton joins us live. he is back. ♪

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bill: this is a fox news alert from london. the police have made at least one arrest in one of the largest jewelry heist in british history. gripping amateur videotape of the group get away emerges -- videotape of the getaway emerges. that is broad daylight outside of the flagship store of london's grand diamonds. the armed robbers got away with $65 million worth of gems. they fired two shots into the pavement before making their escape in a series of getaway cars. fortunately, no one was hurt. police said the man arrested was not one of the thieves caught on

the surveillance camera that you saw. police are hoping that the release of these pictures will help to be to the rest of the principal suspects in central london. >> can i just say, this is another example of how the media just winds up completely distorting what has taken place? what we have said is that if somebody -- if you get an e-mail from somebody that says, for example, obama-care is creating death panel, forward us the e- mail and we will explain. this has been portrayed in media outlets as obama creating an enemies list. [laughter] , on, guys. megyn: that was the president

talking about -debunking myths for health care reform and his reality check website, and it leaves a way to report fishy claims on health care reform. asking americans to forward their neighbors e-mail addresses is making some people uncomfortable. bill burton, a welcome back to the program. >> thank you for having me. megyn: forget what you call it, is the white house keeping a list of e-mails from folks who have made complaints or raise what the president has deemed to be myths on health care reform? >> absolutely not. we are trying hard to knock that down. people should know that if they have questions or concerns or if they hear them, feel free to report and to us and we will answer. we do not care if the person's

name or e-mail addresses on it, we just want to be able to answer. but this notion of an enemies list is silly. megyn: when someone for words one of their neighbors' complaints, and they include the e-mail address, the white house is purging or deleting those e- mails? >> we are answering them with information that is important. megyn: now, but i mean if bill hemmer complaints about health care with a myth and i forward you his e-mail and you get my e- mail address and his, you are the leading his address, right? >> first of all, i am glad that you brought up the death panels, that myth has been propagated. megyn: if you could just answer my question. >> i do not want you to conflate

the notion that we get e-mails and we answered with the facts with this notion that we are keeping some sort of list. megyn: do you believe the names and e-mails? >> i understand the question, why do not want you to have your viewers think we are creating a list. megyn: please just answer my question. are you purging and the leading those e-mails? >> it is not pertinent. your flabbergasting, i have got to say. we are not keeping an enemies list, we are keehelping to answer people's questions. megyn: in the stand. you have made the 0.3 times. please, just answer my question. are you purging or deleting that e-mail addresses of the citizens that have made complaints? >> i appreciate the question.

we are simply answering. megyn: you are not the leading the e-mails? >> why would we delete them from the records? we are answering the e-mail. megyn: i am saying -- listen -- >> your viewers -- megyn: you are not being fair. you and i both know -- let me make my point -- >> i am not -- megyn: i want to make my point and then you can respond. you and i both know that there is a federal law called the presidential records act that prohibits you from the leading e-mails -- from the leading e- mails in the records received by the white house. -- from deleting e-mails in the records received it from the white house. this is why you are requesting that you forward your neighbors

or other people's complaints, it will include e-mails and in many instances it will have a chilling effect on free speech. >> the reason why people are confused is that journalists, not unlike you, are saying things like the presidential records are kept here. none of that confirmation is kept for a long time. -- none of that information is kept for a long time. we are just answering the questions that people have over their legitimate concerns, propagated by leaders of anti reform movements. megyn: in an environment where you have the speaker of the house referring to them as nazis and the president saying the complaints over this far

smears, then the white house comes out and says send us the e-mails. those who are behind the e-mails may feel reluctant to engage in such speech in the future. that is not just the complained that we have, but the aclu has even come out and said they have a serious problem with that. >> for starters, i do nothing but nancy pelosi was claiming that, people are showing up wearing swastikas, invoking images of nutsy germany. that is not being made up. there are real questions and concerns out there about reform. we are having a constructive debate, productive on how to get the health care reform that we need. when we get tangled up in questions that go after how to answer these questions and concerns the real issue is that

people desperately want to raise health care reform questions. megyn: there is another concern about free-speech. i hope that we can resolve this in the future. >> we are proponents of free speech. i hope your viewers understand. megyn: thank you. bill: seniors have been loud and clear. the the president make progress in selling his plan yesterday? we will debate that, in moments. megyn: the tragedy over the hudson river that did not have to happen because of one simple device that could have prevented it.

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bill: welcome back, everybody. did you know that the sexual tension between the two of you was real and vivid? megyn: did you say sexual tension? that i am a flirt? i will not touch that one. bill: [laughter] we want to get back to -- we want to get back to what is happening in afghanistan. hundreds of u.s. marines, launching a new offensive deep in the heart of taliban territory. they were trying to take back this key town. carter is live in kabul to bring us up to date. they met some resistance. how much? >> there has been sporadic resistance. some areas have seen heavy resistance, others light resistance. the main task of this operation

today is to clear up this main operations center in central helmand. the hope is that if more afghans hope -- vote, it will be more free and fair. providing a better government. it has caused a loss of life. bill: why is the televisions presence there considered so critical? some critics have said that this could be a watershed moment. >> it is extremely important, it is where they grow poppy and those revenues fuel the insurgency across afghanistan. it is one of the larger population bases here. the idea is if they can remove

the taliban, the population will support the central government. they will be able to be like the rest of afghanistan, not the way that american international troops have been locked out for years. there has been no american influence or central influence either. bill: these are critical days. what the battle as it continues. 26 minutes past the hour, full court press on president obama to win over critics for health care reform. is he succeeding? we have a fair and balanced debate in minutes. megyn: random act of blond

eness, is that what that featured says? we are calling out the fashion police on "kelly's court." ♪

bill: breaking news out of iraq, a spokesperson confirming that right now in iraq a number of american forces, soldiers and

marines with swine flu, the number has climbed to 67. 23 iraqis themselves, as well as six foreign nationals, have been diagnosed with a bad virus. the american forces have not immediately confirm the figures released by the iraqis. just crossing the wire right now, fox news confirms that 67 u.s. troops now have swine flu. these men and women live in confined quarters, sharing a lot. living space, living quarters, bathrooms, etc., vehicles, this could be a big deal. we will watch it to see how the military is able to control it and handle it. that is the word from baghdad, moments ago. megyn: the president and first lady are hosting america's newest supreme court justice.

wait, this is not live -- this is live? it is. they are having a reception in honor of justice sonia sotomayor. just like the day when the announcer as his nominee, she is offering her thoughts on becoming the nation's 111 supreme court justice. she already has her work cut out for her. in a few weeks, doing this a month earlier, that is how important the case is. we now have a full bench. at the end of the term, it has two women on it. bill: president obama, dusting off his campaign style, taking his message to the people and urging a friendly crowd to ignore what he calls scare tactics. this is a part of what happened yesterday. >> let's disagree over things that are real, not these wild

misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to what we are proposing. the way that politics works sometimes is that people that want to keep things the way they are will try to scare people, bringing out the boogeyman that are not real. bill: how did he do? did he succeed? we have bought, a professor of advanced political studies, and andrea, a republican consultant. welcome. bob, first, what kind of room did he make for himself yesterday? let's let me put it this way, the white house has fallen behind in this debate, no question. yesterday he had the opportunity to knock down some of the more egregious disinformation campaigns out there, not the least of which is the former alaska governor sarah palin's

argument that these forums will come -- contained death panels -- contain death panels. bill: he did not mention her by name. >> he mentioned the issue. the issue that he raised was the amendment that had been pursued for several months by one republican senator from georgia. when he heard what she said, he said that that was not. on this issue that is an apt description of the former governor of alaska. bill: that senator came out with a statement saying he had nothing to do with it and that the president was not telling the truth. let's try to focus on what the president is trying to do. andrea, did he make up any ground in the health care reform debate? >> i do not think that he did. the american people are very smart. the viewer is watching this are

the most informed in the nation. they get it. seniors are particularly scared. barack obama said that he wants to cut $500 billion from medicare. he came out and said that we need to talk about end of life choices. he is saying that if you want to pull the plug, i will not stop you. now he is backpedaling. they are losing so much ground on this issue. this bill will be lost were it not for the president. bill: you agree, then, that the white house has fallen behind. my question was whether they are catching up. >> they are not. they failed on three levels. one, the moral argument. we need to cover the uninsured. that is misleading, let's be constructed that number. 43% of the people that are not insured could be. the rest of that number, 9

million illegal aliens, you also have the people, 18%, who are eligible for medicaid that choose not to go on it. this moral argument that we need to cover everyone is misleading. we have the economic argument that this will save us money. bull. bill: an interesting case. >> it is all wrong, but it is an interesting case. there is nothing in the bill about illegal aliens. that line about pulling the plug on grandma, you did a good job getting that in there, it was a good republican talking point. it is disgraceful. did he make progress yesterday? yes, he got a few points across, how absolutely ridiculous and fear mongering these arguments are. does anyone believe that these are not organized? i used to do this for a living. i used to give these town halls

organized. bill: 20 or 30 people out there? you are talking 1000. >> it is mostly seniors. >> in pennsylvania yesterday, they all virtually said that they had received e-mails from groups organized to oppose health care. bill: that is not what they said. >> the only thing that is organized, the unions. look at their professionally made signs. tell me that when you have a bill that is based on political poison, tax increases, half of a trillion dollars, penalties for businesses, increasing the national debt, cutting money for medicare, you cannot expect anything -- >> do you really believe that these are non-organized spontaneous outpourings of democracy?

then you believe in the tooth fairy. >> oh, yeah. >> to suggest that they are not organized by groups on the other side that are spending their time making sure that they're making handwritten signs, if you think that that is spontaneous, i have got a bridge to sell you. >> polls reflect what i am saying. you cannot fudge the numbers. 60% of independent voters are opposed to the bill. people are opposed. the outrage is real. you can discount and add your own peril. -- you can discount it at your own peril. it will be reflected. bill: healthy debate. thank you both for coming on. we will make time for this next week. guess what? >> you like us. you know what? i still like you, bob, no matter what bill hemmer says.

bill: a town hall is about to fire up. >> it is ok to come on here and be a pinata. megyn: you think that they fight like that, but these analysts gave me a gift for my little buddy. a bib that says "if you think that i am cute, you should see my mother's guests." they got that for me together. thank you so much. we ended that on a happy note. get out your party favors, folks. today is cost of government day. the average american worker toils from january 1 until today to pay off his share of running the federal, state, and local government. that is 224 days out of the year that the work to pay for the cost to keep the government running, consuming more than 61%

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jane: good morning, everybody. we will see you at the top of the hour. there is a lot going on. including comments from the white house press secretary. we continue to hear more coming out of these town hall meetings on health care. rick plans: a brand new study that shows -- rick: plus a study that shows an increase in far right radical hate groups. we will speak to one of the authors at the top of the hour. megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. a philadelphia cross dresser fired for wearing daisy dukes. this hairstylist blows to wear women's clothes and heels. he says that they bring out his feminine feature is the best. the problem is that his style

did not fit well with the chop shop hair salon he worked for. they gave him the boot, not because he was a crosse processor -- cross dresser, but because of something more problematic. does he have a case? let's ask our panel. good morning, panel. >> good morning, your honor. megyn: daniel goes to work not at the swanky city salaam, but at the chop shop where your hair is cut for $14. apparently, according to him, his bosses, and even the clientele, they were always thinking why he was dressed as a lady. now he is getting the boot. >> if he can prove that the only reason he was fired was because he was a man in women's clothing, the supreme court has ruled under title 7 that he does

have a case. the supreme court has ruled. sexual stereotyping based on gender non-confirmation is impermissible discrimination. a male wearing women's clothes, if he is fired because of that according to the united states supreme court he has a case. megyn: that is what he says happened. he said that they did not like his high heels and his tight clothing and his woman's appearance behind a hair salon chairs. finally, after transferring him multiple times, they kicked him out. >> title seven is not going to give any love today to danielle, i mean daniel, because he looks like a woman. the law is that employers can have a specific dress

requirements in salons. in salons you are not even supposed to wear open toeshoes. he is not even a full employee. he is someone who is a contractor who has his own particular spot. guess what? when they first hired him he was wearing this kind of clothing. what they were really angry at is that he was stealing business from the salon. you cannot tell people to get your waxing and done at another salon. megyn: secret no. 2, that it had nothing to do with sexual orientation, but the fact that he was sending clients to another salon he were dead. >> the reason he had to work at the other salon was because they stopped sending mail clients to him, cutting his income stream in half -- male clients to him,

cutting his income stream in half. he is not claiming that he is being discriminated against because he is homosexual. he actually has a better case being discriminated against as a man in women's clothes. >> if your employer discriminates against you for not conforming to gender stereotypes. so, if they fire me because i will only wear pants and ties, that is the legal. but you are right, federal law does not protect against orientation. the question here, is this sort of a gender stereotype claim that is trumped up? >> the supreme court ruled that it is hard for any adjudicator to figure this out, whether he

is gay or dress that way -- or just dressed that way. there is a resumption in society that someone who is a man that distressing as a woman is a homosexual male. there is a slippery slope argument there. megyn: let's say that they fired him because they did not like the way the bid -- that he dressed. for the record, it is not like he was showing up in a dress. they said that he was wearing daisy duke's. >> that is right. kicking in and out. megyn: when you are a man or a woman, you have to dress appropriately. >> if i go to get a job at the top job in two inch shorts, they might tell me to take it easy. too much junk in the trunk. [laughter] have got to conform to what my

employer says. -- i have got to conform to what my employer says. megyn: like that transgendered man in oregon. the people love him, but when he came to talk to the children in a bathing suit, it was a problem. >> but this guy is not talking to kids, he is cutting hair. presumably and let -- less dangerous than talking to children. there is a case here, it will not be dismissed on summary judgment. megyn: we will leave it at that. one final word for the viewers, this guy does not look good but he might technically have a case. de employees have tried to sue before becaus, claiming that the fired because of gender

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a child who needs you is waiting. please call. bill: because you asked. lots of e-mails about these town hall meetings. the august break is between four and five weeks. total number in congress, 535. we did the math, and bill sammon is here. in fairness to the members of congress, it is hard to nail

down since scandals are hard to see. 361 members of congress on the house side willç not hold a ton hall meeting. that is 67%. we have been told this legislation could be the most critical bill that these people vote on in their political careers,ç so why are more peope not answering the question of their constituents? >> in fairness, you alluded to schedule changes, and they could get it will meetings in the coming weeks, but it certainly raises the question whether congress people are hiding from their constituents. they are seeing how he did these exchanges are and are saying i do not want to have a taj mahal. in some cases meetings have been canceled, in other cases,

getting turned into teleconferences, youtube presentations. even when town halls are allowed to go forward, there isç more security, asking people to go through metal detectors -- which is prudent and proper -- and there are warned not to shout. that canç have a chilling effet on the free-flowing nature of debate. bill: thank you for coming in today. if the numbers change, let us know. hemmer@foxnews.com. 67%. hey, the number is up. megyn: that will do it for us. just ahead, there were two

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