brian: town halls getting walloped with tough questions. >> $99 trillion in debt. how are you going to look at my children in their eyes and tell them they are going to have a better future with $99 trillion. [cheers and applause] brian: that man, father of four children, and small business owner live with us. why he is worried about the future of his family and why he says americans are being ignored. our slogan this hour can't be ignored. it's from tino in new mexico. she says such a bore. watch "fox & friends" it's so much more. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- steve: live from studio e. welcome aboard. it's friday. [cheers and applause] brian: alisyn in for gretchen. alisyn: it's my tuesday. steve: it's tuesday. [cheers and applause] brian: it's your tuesday. alisyn: i worked yesterday and i work tomorrow and sunday. steve: so in other words she has

a four day workweek this week but we have lots to talk about. all this health care stuff. you will heart very latest. there are new developments. also, we will tell you where the president is heading today. in the meantime, some breaking news out of this area. >> talk about that plane cash from over the weekend. the f.a.a. has suspended two employees from the teterboro airport crash over the hudson. the air traffic controller responsible for mondaying the plane that you see in that photo was allegedly talking to his girlfriend on the phone at the exact moment of this crash. his supervisor was not even in the control tower which is required by the f.a.a. a spokesman says he does not believe these actions cricketed to the crash but does say that such behavior is, quote, unacceptable. look at this new amateur video. this was obtained by nbc. it shows the exact moment of impact as you can see. this video is chilling. an italian tourist shot this

video. he wanted to get video of his friends on the chopper. in the videos you can see the plane's wing chopping the chopper's rotor blades. nine people died in this tragic accident. all right, another piece of disturbing video. mentally disabled students being forced to fight -- fight one another, if you believe this, in texas. we told but this story before. and now we have an update. a former employee at the facility, jesse salazar was convicted of late night fights among the residents of the community. he faces up to 10 years behind bars. he is the first of six former employees to stand trial. well, a private funeral service set to take place at 10:00 a.m. eastern cape cod for eunice kennedy shriver. among the guests vice president biden. the mass will be broadcast life on shriver's web site.

athletes from the organization will carry the special olympics torch. yesterday, family members and thousands of mourners gathered for the wake. among those in the receive line, maria shriver and her husband arnold schwarzenegger. things could get wild in the west today. president obama is scheduled to host a town hall meeting in montana. may be rowdier than the crowd in new hampshire earlier this week. usually they told signups on a web site. but tickets are being handed out on a first come first come basis. town halls have been heating up as you know all around the country this month. we will keep you potioned on what happens there secretary of state hillary clinton is wrapping up her trip to africa. this morning right now she is in cape verde day preparing to talk with nevez. she met with lie brotherrian leaders and spoke about democracy. >> there are no image wandz or i would have brought one for every

one of you there are no quick fixes for countries making the transition from violent conflict to lasting peace and stability. alisyn: clinton toured seven african nation to bolster economic ties. brian: michael vick will try to resurrect his career with the eagles. he signed an option for a second year. the deal worth about $7 million. vick is backed in the league less than a month after being conditionally reinstated. following his prison term on dogfighting charges. so what do football fans think in philly? listen. >> i was shocked when i saw that but, i mean, they have to do what they have to do. i think it fits eagles real well. >> i have no problem with it he served his time. let's see what he has. i don't know if he still has any gas if the tank. brian: at 29 he has some gas. here is what peta says, you have to wonder what message this sends to young animals and don't want them to be harmed. first practice lehigh university

and he could play next week in their final two preseason games. steve: amazing. all right. left's talk about. this it's the number one thing you want to know about. that is what is going on with the town halls and the health care reform and all that other stuff as well. ali just a moment ago mentioned that the president is going to be in montana where things will be noisier because it's going to be on a first come, first serve basis if you want to show up. remember earlier in the week when the president was up in new hampshire. he mentioned the rumor of, quote: death panels that will, basically pull the plug on grand matchett the so-called death panels as you have read about on the blogosphere and heard about elsewhere. these have been so incendiary using that term. and what they were referring to was this provision in the house bill that said, ok, at the end of life, wield talk to -- we would provide funding so you could talk to a doctor and others about living wills, and

also hospice care and stuff like that. but it has been such a third rail issue. alisyn: so now they dropped it. it was so incendiary. they have dropped it from the senate finance committee bill. that's the one that chuck grassley has been working on. it's such a third rail. it's so hot they just took it out. i think everybody agrees, everybody in the end of life does need some sort of counseling. it's whether or not you want the government involved and whether or not the government should be paying for it we do know that medicare spends 27% of its budget in the final year of someone's life because you could argue that people are getting too much care in the end of their life. sometimes they don't want so much invasive care. so they should be talking to their doctors. i think all elderly people know. this it's whether or not the government should be involved in this somehow. >> here is what chuck grassley said we dropped the end of life situation entire live because of

the way it could be implemented. by the way here is the exact quote. maybe others can defend a bill like the pelosi bill that leaves major issues open to interpretation but he can't. listen, chuck grassley had a different tone when he was in washington. i mean, he had lunch with the president. he says i believe the president has a sincere hope of a bipartisan bill. charged in negotiating the senate finance committee. when he came back to iowa, town hall and what he heard on the street which changed his mind. self-up in 2010. everybody thinks if it can change chuck grassley's mind. is he a popular republican. if it change his mind, imagine what it will do to the freshman democrat or moderate democrats going home to get an earful. all these town halls are beginning to change the tone of the lawmakers. steve: speaking of freshman democrat, frank, who is from maryland, apparently he says now, a new democrat said, you know what? i never would have voted for that in the house last month if i would have have had the

chance. another freshman democrat, tom parelo from virginia says he is not ready to back the bill as well because is he still getting feedback from his constituents. brian: let's talk about how they are going to save money and make this bill deficit neutral. the ceo says it's not going to happen. they are going to do it by cutting deals with hospitals and with the pharmaceutical companies. in fact, they have cut a deal to save $80 billion. what do they have to give up to get this deal? steve: the huffington post got a copy of a memo from somebody who say they were involved in the negotiation. here it is right here. it says -- alisyn: get your specs on, would you? brian: telescope in your son's room. go grab it. steve: walk up to your tv and read about the bottom part. steve: in exchange for these items the white house agreed to impose importation of drugs. rebates and. brian: steve's face suspect against the teleprompter now.

steve: noninterference and owe oppose. brian: get a shot steve reading this. steve: medicare part b. i was reading the teleprompter right there. there was an interesting thing. because that's what huffington post said that the white house gave up stuff to get the help of big farm that both the white house say that's not accurate. robert gibbs was asked about it yesterday. he said ok you have got big pharma on board what did you promise them? he wouldn't say. brian: he changed his tune. he didn't want to get directly caught saying this is not true. steve: what did the hospitals get to cooperate? what did the drugmakers get to cooperate? we don't know. at one point he said some of that stuff is on the committee web sites. the huffington post looked and there was nothing on the web

site. alisyn: this brings up a couple of issues. one is you will remember during the campaign barack obama then candidate obama said that his white house was going to be transparent. so people are angry because there were meetings on july 7th between the farm siewft calls and top executives at hospitals and those seem to be somewhat shrouded in secrecy because sometimes the guest lists of names was not released. in t. later was released at the behest of the a.p. that did a frequent information act request. and what did they talk about? it hasn't exactly been clear? but to get the 80 billion-dollar agreement from the pharmaceutical company. steve: in savings in the future. alisyn: they must have done something. this memo suggests he they wouldn't take drugs from canada. brian: bush got killed for that. alisyn: very cheap drugs from there the government wouldn't use its power to leverage lower prices. $80 billion savings from the pharmaceuticals is good. why isn't the white house trumpeting that.

brian: they did at one point but here is the thing. the huffington post makes things up and we know that for sure. we elm if a pa theisman with the white house. that does seem to be a hard core memo they put out. speak of the white house. let's speak with robert gibbs and sparring sessions to robert gibbs. to his credit as you brought up in the pregame show. he stuck in there and he fought it out with major garrett and he could have easily went to the next reporter. but when it was all said and done, major garrett didn't get any answers. steve: it all came down. this the white house sent out an email to a bunch of people that said, essentially, ok. this is from axelrod. these are the myths. these are the truths regarding health care. major garrett was asking about well, some people who didn't sign up for these wound up with them. how did that happen? here is a minute and three of the exchange. >> assume that somebody is violating the law. >> never ever signed up for anything related to this white

house, senator obama as a candidate. senator obama as anything, and have received emails from david axelrod, how could that be? >> i would be interested to see who you gotcha email from and whether or not they are on the list. >> but i just want to be. >> what you are telling me is i need to give you these people's emails so you can check them on lacy. i'm just asking. >> you are asking me if they are on a list. and if you can figure out a different way of checking without asking me to double-check the names. >> they're telling me they can't be on a list because they never asked for an email from the white house. >> i would have to look at what you got, major, i appreciate the fact that i have omnipotent clarity as to what you have received in your email box today today. >> you don't have time pawn anything. i'm telling you what i got. emails from people to ho said theyner asked for anything from the white house. >> let me go to some place else that might be constructive. brian: ouch. i thought megyn kelly gave the

best illustration. she with -- who did she speak with? steve: bill burton. brian: look, if i sent email to bill hemmer and it's forwarded to you and i'm on your list, you can't use bill hemmer's email address just because it was linked to me. you have got to delete it. that's what he is saying why did david axelrod's memo go out to people that were not on their friends list. steve: some people received email from the white house. if you signed up through the campaign, you would get email from the campaign and stuff like that. but there is just a question how did some of these people that this person that major quoted and there are some other -- on the malkin site she talked with people that wound up with the same thing and they, too, did not sign up for it. alisyn: all right. we will explore that. coming up in fact meantime, as you know town halls have been heating up. the white house says they are not a representation of how america feels overall. these not what our fox news polls say and that's next.

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how many town halls y'all have been to, they are not completely indicative of what's going on in america is the white house out of touch? on our panel this morning pat caddell former pollster to president carter. michael gear and former clinton advisor doug schoen. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. it seems there are two schools of thought. either these town hall meetings are the fringe element, these are peripheral characters that show up, or it's representative of the anger and anxiety that americans have and this is a cross section of america. it sounds like the white house thinks it's the first one, the fringe. >> they are in shock is the problem. because they should be able to translate the polls mean real people. real people are going down. the problem is, let me sum it up for you. 1993, the clinton hillary clinton was killed because the interest got together and killed it this time the white house

bought all the interest and assumed they had this thing greased and the people rose up. they are in shock. they don't know how to deal with that yet. >> two theories. either the white house is pitifully out of touch with how the american people really feel or they are just not very bright. i'm sorry, i hate to say it. steve: these are harvard educated people in the white house. >> how can they pretend that this outrage. >> harvard doesn't mean anything. >> he has a majority. >> this is such a beautiful express of democracy. this is the first time since november that the american people have risen up and said no to something. it's working, it's effective. the polls are plummeting, the white house knows it. again, they are either in denial. they are not very bright or maybe this is their strategy. maybe they are dumb like foxes over there. steve: beautiful democracy or something else going on there. >> i think it is democracy. the polls show obama's sinking people are turning against the health care plan. surprise, surprise, people are

coming out to the town halls to register their discontent. that's democracy. >> somebody needs to tell them. when the dnc runs -- and dnc is a wholly owned subsidiary of the white house. when they run an ad, the president, who says i'm the president of the people, runs and says you are a mob. nobody in the press bothers who ask do you support what your white house has approved. that's your statement, basically. you run the risk whenever voters say wait a minute, i thought you were for us, what the danger here? >> that's what's happening now. that's why the polls are plummeting like a rock. they know it. >> stick around for one second. we have more to talk about. they blame high drug prices as part of the problem with health care. did the white house make a back door deal with these companies to get their support? and thrown in jail for yawning in court that's what happened to one man. this morning we have an update on the on. -- on the yawn.

alisyn: welcome bark, everybody there are new reports this morning that the white house may have reached an 80 billion-dollar deal with the pharmaceutical industry to reduce the cost of health care. did the white house promise something in return? >> you can say for sure they were promised nothing in return? >> i can assure you that we have come to an agreement to seek some savings from the pharmaceutical industry as part of comprehensive health care. alisyn: what kind of deal is the white house making and why are they keeping mum? we are back with our political panel. pat caddell, doug schoen. why isn't the white house trumpeting the savings and telling us how it works. >> they were trumpeting initially, alisyn. what happened is they have walked away from it as health care supporters declined and as

the left wing in the house, let my by nancy pelosi has condemned this deal. so what gibbs was saying yesterday, was there was a non-deal deal. sure there were terms. there were clear agreements. there was an outline of a memo released. you know what? at the end of his colloquy yesterday, he said yep, there was a deal, the senate finance committee. tell you about it. >> no, no, no. this is where we are headed deep trouble. you have -- they made a deal. what the president had to walk away from is the promise in the campaign. alisyn: of transparency. >> allowing people to import drugs. secondly doing something about the government, which was barred by the bush administration deal. from negotiating lower prices. and also, this generic drug deal. the white house signed on this. the reason you know this is that big pharma, the industry, was starting to spend, they had $100 million white house. they under it the other day to 150. they didn't give the extra 50 because they walked away. it's because they know they have

a deal. the problem is big pharma is now giving 57%. first time in history the majority of his money to dow in the 2007 cycle. this is what i am saying about buying special interest. the problem is if the party finds out in fact instead of out there the bad drug companies and bad health care we are in bed with them. this is what doug said. the left is going to go crazy. >> the real intriguing part of this is to see how the white house moves forward because pat is so right. you have got the left wing of the democratic party saying you are not giving us what you promised. you have got the town hall meetings that are breathing down their next. i'm telling you, this is going to be one of the most intriguing political subterfuge acts to figure out how the white house maneuvers through these waters. ultimately, there is ha no win here. there is too much at stake and the obama administration has hichesd its wagon to this. and i don't know how -- right now you can't where it's going to go from here.

>> there is no agreement on a health care bill. and the white house is foiling around. the democrats have four plans. they have no consensus. the people are angry. >> here is the danger for the white house. if the president's popularity different, you can trust him, gets caught in the white house's disingenuously white house playing against the middle. this is a way to destroy your presidency for people to believe that you have been snookering. >> have republicans come along in 2010 and say here we come, sorry. alisyn: thank you. you guys all agreed this morning. cats are living with dogs in the apocalypse. thank you so much. let's go over to the green room so-to-see what's coming up. >> we are here in the green room where our assistants are doing online shopping. brian: we don't have doo any work. we have somebody else do it. steve: they are working on the show. town haller also not be ignored. watch this.

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squirrels and name of my son's team is flying squirrels. that, to me is a real squirrel. alisyn: could a wild animal ever really show up in front of the camera frame while everybody was posing? >> well, that's the question. he misses it. brian: put ourselves in the wild for a second. if you are a squirrel, you know the rocks, you know the trees, you don't know the cameras. you look at those things. alisyn: that's what i was wondering. it would be strange for a wild animal who just show up in the frame are, i think. steve: this is not really here. look at that it could be photo shopped in. if you could put it up for just a second. let me make my case. notice how the squirrel, which is in the foreground and the people who were in the background both in focus. steve do that thing again. alisyn: the magic squirrel. steve: you want to see that again? here on the set? alisyn: yeah. he says the background out of

focus. alisyn: i agree with brian, out of caddie shack. that's the same character from caddie shack. brian: i'm now a believer. originally, now i believe that's real. steve: i do, too. it must be. it won brian over. brian: here your evidence lines. let's start with the pentagon. they say a timetable, there is no timetable for the war in afghanistan. defense secretary robert gates says it will take a minimum of a few years to defeat the taliban. he says it will take a lot longer than that to turn afghanistan into a stable society. troops will be needed, listen. >> at this time general mccrystal is assessing the security situation in the context of the president's goals and strategy and will submit his assessment to us and to nato sometime between the afghan election and early september. brian: the white house has been skeptical did b. placing more troops into afghanistan saying it could back fire by turning more afghans against the u.s.

alisyn: seven suspects accused of gunning down a florida couple with 13 adopted children have plead not guilty. of the six adults and one 16-year-old boy are accused of robbing and killing bird and mel lone billings. the adults on trial in november. surveillance video shows the men dressed as ninjas. they wore black masks as they entered the home. authorities have so far recovered a safe from the home filled with jewelry. children's medicine, and family documents. no word yet on an exact motive. steve: meanwhile, she tried to assassinate a president. now charles man son follower squeaky fromme could be released from prison as early as today. in 175, fromme pointed a gun at president gerald ford in sacramento. secret service agent grabbed her arm, causing the gun to fall to the ground.

brian: let's talk space. nasa's goal of putting man back on the moon by the year 2020 may be heading into a black hole much the review panel says the agency doesn't have nearly enough money to make it happen. the panel says the only way for nasa to afford going back to the moon is if they get rid of the international space station ahead of schedule. steve: put it on ebay? brian: that's a great point. i need a space station. brian: we get a cosmonaut to help us with the plunger. the panel is due to prevent findings to the obama administration and that will be today. alisyn: the man thrown in jail for yawning in court. cliffton williams is a free man again after apoll gazing to the judge. williams served three and a half weeks in jail of what was originally a six month sentence. the judge didn't like his loud yawn so he found him in contempt of court despite apologizing, williams is considering legal action. steve: brian, i heard that that was more of a sigh from you rather than a yawn.

brian: i'm not the fred of yawning movements. i do have a problem. i do say. this yawning we have got to crack down on the yawners this should be a message to everybody. wake up. 23 minutes before the top of the hour. 14 time olympic gold medalist michael phelps was in a car accident last night in the his hometown of baltimore. gheets hurt. casey laid collided with a honda accord. the woman driving honda accord shaken up and taken to the hospital. two passengers in phelps' sleek not injured. police say alcohol not a factor. competitive football where they pay to play. hasn't soon competitive action since going down. first quarter of the first game. tom brady looks like he is ready to dominate in the nfl if practice football is any indication. in philadelphia last night. hit former chris baker with, you will see the tight end for a 7-0 score. later, brady, baker again, over all the two time super bowl mvp

100 yards. patriots beat the eagles 27-25. meanwhile, an update on the story we told but yesterday. remember this ugly highlight from wriggly field we showed you of a man dumping a cup of beer on shane. so embarrassing. he has now been arrested. he turentd himself. in there they got the wrong guy. john is facing one count of battery and one count of illegal conduct within a sports facility facility. they ejected another man but realized they threw out the wrong guy. that's a quick look what's happening in the world of sports. that guy has government to be banned. you cannot throw things at other players unless you are a mexican fan. they were throwing beer bottles at our players in mexico. and you are anti-beer throwing. steve: anti-violence. alisyn: for beer anti-throwing. steve: lawmakers continue to try to sell health care at town halls where constituents ask tough quessments like this one.

>> for $99 trillion in debt. how are you going to look at my children in their eyes and tell them they are going to have a better future with $99 trillion. [cheers and applause] alisyn: that gentleman is a american taxpayer, a voter, a concerned citizen. he was the democratic senator ben car den's town hall on health care and mark now joins us live now. good morning, mark. >> hey, good morning, alisyn. good morning, steve and brian. steve: good morning. alisyn: what the president has said and what the lawmakers who support this say is that the point of health care reform, one of the major points is to bring down the cost to all of us of health care. why are you so convinced that the costs will only go up? steve: to 99 trillion. >> i'm not an economists so i can't speak to whether or not these health care reforms would actually bring down the costs as the senator suggested at the meeting. my suspicion is that's not what's going to happen.

having watched medicare now become bankrupt, social security is not too far away from becoming bankrupt. these are what are supposed to be great government programs that started out of. i stood up there yesterday and i wanted him to look me in the eye and say i have got four wonderful children that i love. and how can he look them in the eyes and say their life is going to be better? because that's what he suggested. you know what? we are all sort of the same age group. we are not going to be here when our kids are saddled with a debt that they cannot pay. and it's time for the citizens, i don't count on the politicians being able to figure this out. but it's time for the citizens to rise up and say my kids matter. and we're not just going to sit around anymore. steve: mark, people are rising up at these town halls and saying they are worried about what the future could hold regarding this. do you have a feeling that, in particular, you were there in the room yesterday with ben car continue at that town hall in. is he listening or just going

throughout motions. >> steve, thee guys are not listening at this point. this is the problem that we have. one of the things that we're trying to dupe in our county is reeducate people on the constitution. the reality is we have lost track there. the constitution, article 1 section 8 gives very limited powers to these congressman up there. whether you are a representative or a senator. when you stray outside those 18 powers, this is what you get. you get essentially feef domes with 535 little kings who don't listen to their constituency. steve: they better? >> i don't know. i hope you are right steve in that but at a minimum to see that many people there protesting and voicing their concerns was a good thing. brian: i have got to ask you, mark, first off you should know you are not an economists but charles outhammer wrote a column that backs up your big worry. the congressional budget office says this will do nothing but cause more debt. that is his entire plan. the aarp says we don't endorse

this plan. so people have a right to be concerned. overall, how do you feel when people say -- people like you don't represent real america that you are not a cross section and sampling of how america feels about this? >> i have got to be honest with you, brian, that is absolutely maddening to me. i am the average citizen. i'm a father, i'm a husband. i have got four wonderful children. i run a small business. you know, i'm trying like everybody else to save up a little money, take a vacation. and for them to say that i am unpatriotic or yesterday harry reid said i'm an evil monger. that is so offensive at so many levels, i can't tell you. i am the average citizen. that's why i want to thank you y'all for letting me come on the program this morning. i think in that regard i sort of represent the average guy. he doesn't get a voice in this game. with all these people showing up. we sort of do have a dog in the fight right now. and i'm glad i'm part of that. >> mark, who asked a great question of a u.s. senator yesterday.

it was great that you could visit us on this friday. alisyn: thanks, mark. >> thank you very much. alisyn: we can all probably agree that health care in america has some problems. and may be in need of reform. why can't the president sell that message to the masses? the five key things that americans are not buying about reform next. steve: we showed you this video steven tyler from aerosmith falls right off the stage. there he goes. i believe that's at sturgeon sturedges. will the front man have to take a backseat on the tour? brian: he got really hurt. bvr since arthur's been eating purina one, he has blossomed...

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their homes in santa cruz mountains because of the fast-moving flames. no homes have been burned yet all right. you have seen the video of aerosmith front man tyler falling off the front trip. we learned that the band has canceled the entire summer tour so tyler can recover. broke his shoulder and he got 20 stitches to the head after tumbling off that stage in south dakota. let's go over to brian and steve steve. steve: don't tumble off that box. brian: there is no box. steve: new fox news poll shows that most americans don't support health care reform. the president is still pushing his plan holding another town hall today. parts of the plan people are most concerned about. brian: business professor, economic expert peter that richy. peter, first off, this plan

overall, freedom upset about it because the independent nonpartisan congressional budget office says it's going to lose money. it's not going to save us any dollars. >> well, it's going to cost another trillion dollars. so it's going to basically push up the price. because you are increasing the demand. economics 101. increase demand, you push up the price. your private health care will be more expensive for you when this plan goes in place. >> peter, we have got five things that people have questions on and are worried about so this is kind of the lightning round. first up, they are worried about rationing and long lines. >> well, look at the public healthcare systems in canada and in europe. if you need to see a specialist, if you need a complicated surgery, you have to wait in long lines. if you are an elderly person, that can be critical it could cost you your life. brian: what about youth nation sexual harassment we are hearing about the elderly. not worth keeping them alive, is that true? >> some scanned naffian systems

scanscandinavian systems they dy coverage if you are certain age. steve: lot of people worried they are going to lose their private insurance. >> that is a real big upfront worry a lot of small employers, people say where the average payroll figure say 40,000 a year for employee, it's going to be simpler to just pay the 8% tax and not provide health care. then the individuals will be forced into the public plan. they will lose their private insurance. once one company does it in a town, all the other companies have to follow suit so they can compete. you're going to lose your private health care with this system. brian: what about a mandatory public system. if the senate gets its way there probably won't be a public option. >> there is going to have to be some kind of public option to put this plan in place because with the 8% tax there has to be some place for everybody to fall into. also, it's going to be mandatory that everybody have insurance. individuals have a lot of trouble buying private insurance now. it will be absolutely impossible

once this plan goes in place and they push up the price. steve: and you answered the last one about the high cost in taxes. in the very beginning. professor, we thank you very much for getting out the flashlight and shining it on some of these issues we have got. thank you, sir. >> take care, thank you. brian: always with a shiny bow tie and smile. 10 minutes before the hour. a whopper of a controversy is bureauing over the president's pick for the nation's top doctor spot. she advises burger king. a lovely store. is it good for you? she gets paid to do that. is that a good idea? me again.

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alisyn: president obama's pick for the nation's top doctor has an interesting side job.

she is advisor to the home of the whopper burger king. brian: greg is the host of red eye. he is here. does this make sense to you. >> it makes perfect sense. we should be applauding this woman not rejecting her. fast food has done more for this food in feeding people. than live aid. it's fresh, easy to prepare, it's cheap. they are asking like this woman belong to the aryan nation. she annualized cheesy tots. how bad is that? this is the least of our worries. burger king, mcdonald's, everything you need to survive is in a whopper. steve: you know what, greg, with tongue in cheek, i will follow this line your logic with this line of questioning. so you are suggesting that america is a land where nobody is going hungry? >> yeah. and also if you look around in any country where there is a fast food restaurant. you might find obese, slightly obese kids but you don't find

starvation. when you look at things you would rather have kids that are mildly out of shape than kids that are dying. that's a serious point. these companies provide food, inexpensively. they provide jobs. i am sick and tired of officials demonizing. i will tell you. this she was on that panel. a lot of companies have panels for public relations reasons. they put nutritional experts on these panels to keep nutritional experts off their backs. that's the only reason. alisyn: it's funny you say that dr. benjamin was helping them come up with healthy options. >> the most miserable idea ever. what do they do? they have sliced apples. that is not a french fry. if i want an apple. i can go to the market. i go to burger king, the fries aren't very good. i go to mcdonald's for my fries. brian: let me interject. i told my kids we can go to mcdonald's if you all agree with me and say you will eat the apples first. steve: what kind of father are

you? >> you should be demonized. steve: you are not taking your kids every meal. it's every once in a while. it's a big treat for my kids. >> good grades on a report card that's where we went. it was a reward. whatever kids see as a reward generally is pretty good. brian: or bad for you. steve: when i was growing up on payday my dad would bring home a bucket of kentucky fried chicken. >> one size of mcdonald's fries. that he was how old we are. i'm 65 years old. i remember of the one size of fries. steve: when they were a nickel. >> that's the problem. it went from quality to quantity. things are too big. but it's still great food and it feeds people. brian: chicken parmesan. what a great investment and they canceled it. >> 20 grand from con agra. sun flower seeds. steve: watch his show in the middle of the night. red eye. the kids love it.

>> they certainly do. alisyn: thanks, greg. town halls, prime time press conferences. beer summits. president obama is definitely doing a lot of talking. do you wish you saw more of him working? how americans answered that question next. brian: greg gut field is weird. first he revealed this affair. enough to we're expecting another big announcement from john edwards. details at the top of the hour. >> they are not good. ♪

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democrat or republican, for whoever -- vote for this bill, we will vote you out. [cheers and applause] alisyn: that man is live with us in five minutes. brian: wow. chili new video of a collision between a plane and helicopter over the weekend. you covered this alisyn. caught on camera by a tourist. air trafficker keeping an eye on airspace too, guess what? he was on the phone with his girlfriend instead. the role that might have played in this crash. steve: don't mess with these sisters two, nuns refused to turn the other cheek. how they chased down an armed thief in heir sandals. our slogan comes from bill in hawaii. "fox & friends" for hawaii's insomniacs. aloha and [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- steve: i got chewed out. when you were reading he said your nose is in her shot. in the wide shot your.

alisyn: stop sticking your nose in my business. steve: i'm reading about the women who chased down the guy. what does brian do? he puts his head in the shot. brian: by mistake. >> brian, you are fired. alisyn: glad you clarified that. brian: finally i'm human. alisyn: i'm in for gretchen today who is off this week. there is new development this morning on the health care reform bill. the most arguably incendiary part of it the one ha has gotten so much attention. some people have referred toes it at death panel provision. it's actually the end of life provision. that has been dropped as of late yesterday from the working senate finance committee. brian: victory tort town halls and sarap, perhaps who kept bringing it up over and over and over again. steve: yeah. in fact, the president himself used that term death panels during the town hall a couple of days ago in new hampshire he said, quote, death panels that

will basically pull the blug plug on grandma. because all these people are showing up as the these town halls and they are asking questions about this. chuck grassley yesterday, he is one of the bipartisan negotiators. he said this is not going to work out. there had been -- that's not going to go forward in the senate bill. in the house bill, there had been a provision that toward the end of a person's life, if it looks as if they are in dire situation, there could be in the final year of their life, there could be a consultation with doctor and family members regarding hospice or living wills, because it is so broad and it can be interpreted different ways, there is so much gray area there, apparently the senate is saying not worth of of the trouble, it's out thereof. they are pulling the plug on it. brian: senator grassley ohio mentioned last hour had lunch with the president said he wants bipartisan solution to the health care challenges. he has a different tone now he went back to iowa. here is his quote. maybe others can defend a bill like speak speaker pelosi's bill that leaves major issues open to

interpretation meaning about this end of life panel but i can't. so now he is getting into it. and if you lose chuck grassley you have given up any hope of having a bipartisan plan. steve: speaking of chuck grassley, a town hall meeting a couple of days ago hosted by that iowa senator got heated. listen. it got heated. >> i'm a conservative. and what we expect is for you to fight for us. we do not want this nation to be social list. fight for us. stand up. don't give an inch. and whether democrat or republican whatever senators or congressman vote for this bill, we will vote you out. [cheers and applause] steve: that part got their attention. alisyn: it did. that man joins us now live on the phone. good morning, bret. , good morning. >> bret, what had you so fired up at that town hall meeting? >> what had myself and many others fired up is what's going on with this bill and why they are pushing this bill through

without even reading this thing. i'm sitting at home on my couch and talking with my family for the last couple months about what can we do about this? what can we do? there is nothing we can do but email our senators and congressman or what have you. and we decided it's time to stand up and get out to these town hall meetings. it's the only weapons we have. brian: bret, were you upset that your senator was at the table with democrats like max bachus with the senate finance committee trying to be at the table during this process and didn't walk away like senator hatch? >> no. that's not the issue that i have. i understand that you have to be in the room to know what's going on. what my problem is is that he said he would not vote for a bill or sign a bill the way it is presented right now. buff is he working to polish a bill that can how far do i want to say, this that can get passed. he can add his republican

touches to. the republican point of view. as a republican. we don't want any kind of a socialist bill passed. whatsoever. i don't care what kind of a bill they are putting forward. if it's leading this nation to socialism. we don't want it we do not want socialized health care. we do not want it. steve: what do you make of. they did this with people. the mainstream media did this with people who went to the tea parties a while back. a number of mainstream media outlets are portraying people who show up at these town halls like you did a couple days ago in winter set, iowa, as you know, they are angry, they are out of touch. maureen dowd in the "new york times" wrote two or three days ago, they are older why the mall contents. how do you feel about being named-call. harry reid called them what was it. >> evil mongers. >> steve: people who descruchted the town halls. what do you feel about people picking on you for simply doing what is so very american, and

that that is giving your opinion? >> i didn't see one swastika at our town hall meeting, not one. we were a civil group of people. what i'm tired of and many americans are becoming more and more tired of is saying we the people aren't the people. we are the people. and we need to stand up and we need to speak loud. what do you do if you are not atlantic heard you speak louder. steve: you sure do. >> anger is a secondary emotion. we are afraid. this scares us. you know, as somebody said earlier on your children they have four kids. i have five children. and i don't want, in 10 years from now. in 15 years from now when my kids -- and this country is socialist and broke dad, why didn't you do something? why didn't do you something? and what's crazier, too, is acorn as of yesterday is starting to bust in people to these town hall meetings. it's this chicago-style politics that's going to ruin this country. and we need to stand up. we have to stand up now. in the 1960's, the masses made a

difference. and if we don't stand up right now, this thing is going to pass and it's the masses that's going to do it. what i'm saying here is that americans, it doesn't matter if you are democrat or republican, if you oppose this bill and you are against socialism, get off the couch. stand up, show up. it might -- 500 people. we need 5,000, 10,000, 20,000. steve: thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. alisyn: we hear your anxiety and we hear your anger. thanks for coming on this morning. steve: he makes a good point. if somebody is not listening, you do talk louder. let me just remind people. be peaceful. because if anything haches at any of these things where there is some violence or somebody gets hurt. they are going to blame the right or they are going to blame the production because they are opposed to a lot of the president's plan. and somebody is probably going to blame fox news because it seems that always happens as well. take it easy. you are there to have your voice

heard. nothing else. brian: let's talk about what the fox news opinion dynamics poll shows now. how is he doing? what do you want to see more or less how about less of the presidents. alisyn: one of the questions was would you like to see president obama on television more or less? and back in march well it's the same. today it is the same as in march who want more 25%. many more people, 49% want less of the president on television steve last couple of months people have said he is on tv a lot. look at the ratings for prime time news conferences. they have certifiedly go gone down for the president. i think he has had four now. the counter programming on the other -- i think on fox actually beat the last one in total ratings. so people are saying ok, is he on tv a lot. shouldn't he be working and apparently that is supported by the data. brian: i go ratings wise. i use happy days. because of when he first hopped on it was like when -- it was

like when. alisyn: pots is i? >> pinky was in the smash up derby. 49% of the country watched. by the end of it was fonzie in a leather jacket. steve: jumping a shark. alisyn: i think there is a lesson there for the president and i'm not sure what it is. i think the president would like to have some happy days because they have had a bad couple of weeks. alisyn: in the mean time let me tell you your headlines at this hour. we have breaking news and development there b. that horrible crash over the hudson. two employees have now been suspended by the f.a.a. following that deadly mid-air collision over the hudson river. the air traffic controller responsible for monitoring the plane at teterboro airport was allegedly talking on the phone with his girlfriend at the exact moment of the crash. and his supervisor was not even in the control of tower, which is required. an f.a.a. spokesperson says he does not believe these actions directly contributed to the crash but says doss say the

behavior is unacceptable. meanwhile there is incredible new amateur video obtained by nbc nightly news. it's horrible. capturing the exact moment of impact. this video is so chilling. it was shot by an tourist who was just trying to capture his friends who were taking the tour around manhattan in that chopper. of course, if you see that video, can you see the plane's wing clipping the chopper's reporter blades or visa versa. brian: going to the right trying at the last second to bank away. nine people died in that tragic crash. cash for clunkers program offering -- if consumers want to buy a car that's not yet on the lot, you can still be eligible for the reef bait. the move is meant to help dealers finding it tough to keep the hot selling vehicles at the delearships. transportation secretary ray la hood says the change will expand buyer's choices and keep production lines running.

president obama is holding a health care town hall meeting in montana of today. the president and first family will also be a too long a little sightseeing. they are going to yellow stone national park. on sunday they will tour the grabbed canyon. the visit is meant to remind this is the last weekend to visit the national parks free of charge. well, a bosom shell admission could be on tap for former presidential candidate john edwards. sources are telling eaive north carolina tv station wral that edwards will admit to be being the federal grand jury is investigating whether edwards abused campaign funds to pay hush money. the edwards camp has yet to comment. steve: lots of confusion over what's actually in those thousand pages of the health care bill like will you be able to keep your doctor and your plan? our truth seeker peter johnson

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alisyn: all right. so many americans are confused about president obama's health care reform plan. there are questions over what they stand to lose if the plan goes forward. and the president has been trying to answer some of those questions. but are the answers fact or fiction? fox legal analyst peter johnson jr. is here. i just want to remind everybody health care is your specialty, of course. and.

peter: been spending a tremendous amount of time. we have read the entire bill and picking it apart. alisyn: one of the things that the president has been explicit about is if you like your health care you get to keep it fact or fiction? peter: he said it i will tell you exactly what he said. >> under the reform we are proposing. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. steve. alisyn: all right, peter is that true? this is the most radical revolutionary reform restructuring of health care in world history. and i don't believe that it is true based on the law that is now being looked at in washington. alisyn: what concerns you? >> the concerns are this: that we're really, i think, moving towards a single pair system. moving towards a system by which the government runs all health care. and under these various bills,

the federal government is going to mandate how private insurance is run. so under the bills that we are looking at right now. if you are in the big self-insured company, you have a five year grace period. but after that five year grace period, you are out of there. if you are not one of those self-insured companies, as long as your insurance stays exactly the same. meaning the deductible is the same, the co-pay is the same. the coverage is the same, then you can twin it but as soon as that changes, you are out of there and you have got to go into a plan that the government says you have to be in in terms of the requirements. so the changing requirements on all these plans. so, effectively, over a four or five year period, at least one study, the group which is an insurance funded group says that 100 million americans are going to be out of their private health care plans. now, are you going to have the choice of your own doctor anymore? well, health savings accounts are going to go the way of the

horse and buggy. because of low deductibles are going to be imposed. you won't be able to have those high deductibles anymore. if you have medicare vantage, as 10.5 million seniors do, you are not going to have medicare advantage under this plan. that's going to effect your choice of physicians and your doctors. so when you talk about a single pair system in which the government decides what kind of health care you are going to get, whether you get the same hospitals, whether you get the same physicians is more than in question. of the whole landscape is going to change. alisyn: although the president has said he does not no longer support a single pair system. he perhaps did on the campaign trail but he says he does not. if the government option would be only one option. it sounds like you are saying that that would not be realistic. peter: i think we have to look at people's philosophies, their sentiments. what they have said in the past. what they believe. he was vociferous. he was strong about the fact that he believed if he was designing a system, which he is

now with congress, that it would be a single pair system. and so i don't think it's a jump in terms of imagination to say credibly that that's what we are going to see if this plan passes in five or seven or nine years. so, in response to the president, i say most respectfully, say goodbye to your health plans. say goodbye to your doctors as you now see them. i think he means well. but i think that the landscape is going to change tremendously. alisyn: thanks so much for coming on. what does it feel like to be taken hostage by somali pirates? we get a firsthand account from the man who was second in command when gun toting pirates attacked the maersk alabama ship. is he live with us next. and do not pass go. head straight to confession. a pair of nuns not in the mood to forgive. they chased down an armed robber in their sandals. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

steve: on april 8th. the maersk alabama was high jangeghtd now new drama takes us inside. >> hands up. >> when the first pirate came aboard on the bridge wing and he held the ak 47 on us through the bridge wing door, that was the realization that it's really happened, the a worst case scenario. here it is, we have got a some mallian pointing an automatic weapon at us. >> get down. get down. get down. >> the crew's ordeal had only just begun. alisyn: oh boy, shane murphy was the first officer of the maersk alabama at the time of the shy jacking and you can watch that special, which is the high seas heroes fighting off the pirates this sunday at eastern let's

turn to captain shane murphy. now, welcome. >> welcome. good morning. that looks incredit dib whether i scarey. tell us about the moment that you realized the ship was first under attack. >> i was on watch on the bridge. i think i was the first one to see him coming. i got him on the radar visually and just from the moment we saw him and how fast they were going, we could tell that they were going to hit us and there was no way we were getting out of it unfortunately we don't have the means to protect ourselves. steve: you can't be armed. >> we can't be arnold, no. you need at least 1,000-yard shot capability to keep those small ships away which is something that right now is not provided only on certain ships shep. steve: at one point before they boarded you heard a radio message and what did the voice say? >> yeah, shortly before that somebody had said stop ship, stop, this is somali pirate. steve: this is somali pirate. and they were long gone. they were over 50 miles away.

this is in the middle of the night. it's pitch black. 50 miles away. we thought we were well in the clear. captain phillips had just come on the bring. we looked around, everything seemed calm and quiet. we slowed back down. we are brining our morning coffee it was right around this time of day. steve: suddenly you have pirates on board? >> not that quick. we sought boat coming. we had a short maybe about 10 minute span to do some quick response as far as phone calls and notification and things like that. the system -- it's never really been tested fully. and the thing that i really enjoyed about this outcome of this maersk, alabama is this showed the entire world what happens when you come after the united states flagged vessels. we have coordination from the lowest level up to the white house. regardless, if it was not a pirate incident, if this was a tears incident, if this was something like the ship that disappeared with the russian crew, which we don't know what

that was. steve: sure. >> it's something. there is security risks involved with the shipping industry right now. alisyn: it sounds very scary, that you were a sitting duck, that you could see the boat coming at you in the distance and you couldn't do anything about it and you knew you were about to be boarded by armed some mall pirates? >> when you say you couldn't do anything. >> you made some phone calls? >> no, there is things we could do. steve: hose them down? >> we have hoses but that's really ineffective. you know, we lock down. we secure the ship. you will see in the movie, the documentary is a pretty good depiction of the story. it's kind of a lot to cram into a one hour story. it really is quite a long day and quite a long -- and, you know it, doesn't quite give everybody's story. there is so many more stories out there. >> detail -- real briefly, shane, real briefly. they are on board. you did something that you were pretending you were on the radio with somebody else even though

you weren't weren't? >> yeah. one of the things i always had in the back of my mind was how auto could we get security mexico stage off once we had been taken hostage? i was able to set back to the house and set off an emergency distress beacon hours after they had boarded and the ship had gone dead in the water. then i snuck in. i alluded capture two or three times. they were within a foot of me. and they were holding captain phillips at gunpoint. i was hiding, ducked away as they walked by. i was able to get a radio and get back out. so i started calling in distress messages to either any ships or to the navy. and then. alisyn: it's scary stuff. i don't want you to give away what you did in case people want to watch it tonight. did you something tricky on the radio and they have to tune in tonight to the special. steve: august 16th 8:00 p.m.

alisyn: thanks for giving you was a preview. steve: to the captain to brian kilmeade. brian: you are a captain, be honest. never know at war the president is saying and the words is he using. what words are hot with the president when he gets in front of the camera. also talking about health care reform in our brand new green room with the one and only karl rove here for two segments. >> unbelievable. not a green room, a red room. brian: this wall is green. we ask you to prepare for our segment revolving around the barack obama health care plan are you prepared? >> i'm prepared. i'm ready. brian: always ready to go. be thrilled about what other segment is going to follow. the military bride and groom. the winners, the package something the irlt family won't have to worry, about wedding day. >> where are they registered, do you know? >> i'm not sure. >> we could go together on a really nice gift. >> i don't have rovian money. kilmeade money doesn't match up with kilmeade money. back in a moment. karl is here. fiber in every packet.

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♪ all three of the winners and their fiances will be here on "fox & friends" on monday. meanwhile. alisyn: it was ground breaking musical festival which left a permanent mark on america. of course we are talking about woodstock brian barely remembers it though he was there. brian: i was 5. alisyn: as you can see things have changed a little bit from those days in 19 9. joining us from live from the woo woodstock site is senior correspondent rick leventhal. hey, rick. >> alisyn, don't act like you don't remember woodstock. we all know that you were here. alisyn: is that your tour bus behind you, rick? >> not only is there still a bus left behind best of your recollection there is sleeping bags littering the lawn outside. by the way, we have now learned that after 40 years we have determined woodstock was not actually in woodstock. it was in bethel, new york. it was moved at the last minute. wade lawrence is the director of the museum in which we are standing. wade can answer lots of questions.

first of all, this bus was not actually here. >> no. this is a prop for the museum. tomorrow is the actual anniversary of the woodstock concert. you have a number of performers who will be here tomorrow that were there back then. >> heroes from the woodstock crew which includes canned heat. jefferson star ship. a plethora of performers from the woodstock era. >> here is the thing everyone needs to know there is a concert tomorrow. they have sold out 16,000 tickets. people can't come. >> well they can come in spirit. you know the museum is open the rest of the year. it's a great place to come all year. >> now they have theaters in here. and interactive exhibits. >> 20 films. six interactives, lots to do. lots to see. lots to learn. >> you can come to the museum tomorrow. >> the museum is probably going to sell out, too if you get here before noon you might be able to get a ticket.

>> i wouldn't travel a long distance to come to the museum tomorrow. >> i want to show viewers the inside of this bus real quick. they are having a concert. last night they had a concert 40 years ago. a lot of people came and didn't have tickets wait. you mightment to be prepared for thravment is a screen there on the windshield. >> it's modeled after ken ceezy's magic bus. it's not an exact duplicate. people can sit on the bus and see a film about getting to woodstock. it's got tie die. >> we will see you here tomorrow. 5:00 concert. steve: rick leventhal. 40 years ago this weekend. woodstock. alisyn: that's a groovy bus, rick. thank you. brian: more than 500 people are feared dead in taiwan after that deficit stating typhoon. we have been showing you pictures of that all week military has reportedly rescued 15,000 people burredy by mud

slides. many waiting to be taken to shelters. alisyn: powerful anesthetic believed to be killed michael jackson apparently came from los angeles pharmacy. that according to lawrmt officials who raided the pharmacy earlier this week. apparently jackson's daughter conrad murray bought dip prix van from the store in may. he gave jackson doses from that specific purchase just hours before his death he then allegedly left jackson alone for hours after administering the sedative only to return and-to-find that jackson had stopped breathing. steve: meanwhile, thou shalt not steal especially around these two nuns. sisters katrina and connie saw a man with a rifle near their missouri convent. they decided to approach him until he took off. but sister cat reena chased him a bit. hab bid and all and flip-flops as well. >> knowing sister cat reena, i

thought she might have caught him and calculate tell him. >> i asked because that's property and we keep an eye close on and we want to know who is coming here, why he is here. steve: well, with the nun's help police officers were able to track the nuns down. turns out he was wanted for breaking into two homes and stealing the gun. meanwhile, joining us live here on the curvy couch, we got our old buddy karl rove. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, sir. steve: the white house has had another bad week. >> it's becoming a habit with him. >> health insurance reform. didn't you listen to the president's prime time news conference, please. brian: people are saying why are opponents running down his plan. where are their plans? because most people want it addressed. >> several republicans have offered up comprehensive package. pretty interesting package. it would allow people to save tax-free for out-of-pocket medical expenses.

allow people to buy health insurance across state lines like we do with auto insurance which would drive down prices. allow small businesses to join together to pool their risk to same discounts big companies get. make health insurance portable by giving the tax advantage companies get and give to individuals. not stuck in a job and lose your benefits. take them with you. includes tort reform so we could end the jumping and frivolous lawsuits that drive up the cost care for everybody. steve: isn't that the fact that amazes you. if you are going to address the huge cost of health insurance in this country interest that you don't do something about tort reform it looks like the president made a deal with the lawyers like he made a deal with the drugmakers and made a deal with the hospitals. >> it goes back even further than that personal injury trial lawyers are one of his biggest sources of campaign contribution tricks when he run force united states senate and when he runs for president. i used to be an advocate of tort reformative but at the state level. when i went to washington with the bush administration, we did

a study the cost to the federal stacks pair of defensive medicine for doctors and health institutions that are doing medicare and medicaid patients is $35 billion a year. that's to the federal taxpayer. that's not to everybody in health care. just to the federal. alisyn: why isn't it getting more traction. >> the president has a huge bully pulpit. a huge mega phone. he is talking about his plan. republicans laid out theirs earlier this year. senators ryan and burr ryan and nunez. that he was the way it is in washington. if you are in the minority and you don't hold the white house, the white house sets the tone. alisyn: is there an actual bipartisan effort with chuck grassley there at the table? are some these ideas being talked about at the table? >> i doubt many of these ideas are being talked about. the bipartisanship is constrained to six members of the senate finance committee and bipartisanship is for the democrats to say we want to go as farce as we can with this and

bipartisanship to reign in say. look here let's do tort reform. let's allow people to save tax-free. that's not being part of the conversation. brian: we now have a track record to look back on aivelt few months to say what has barack obama done and what has he said? >> 670,000 words. brian: they talk about the words that come up a lot. words that do not come up a lot, are iraq, iran, afghanistan, and security. what is he talking a lot about health, economy, jobs, is that a problem? it is reflective that he views himself as a peace time president when we are fighting two wars which is a little strange. he ran as a candidate of domestic agenda and is he pursuing that re torquely when is he in office. early on it was health care reform and it was all about access and about lowering cost. and it is july prime time news conference made rhetorical

change now is health insurance reform and nowville phiing the insurance companies. beating them into order. steve: those are the words. politico ran them through a computer program and said he had said those words over the last. >> summer interns? steve: i wonder how many times he said stupidly. >> one time. they actually found that out he said that one time. of course it was stupid for him to have said stupidly that one time talking about the gates arrest. brian: when we come back, karl rove talks about our green room. steve: plus is he going to talk about whether or not if you watch the news a lot of people are saying the recession is over. we want to know how that is possible with foreclosures at an all-time high rate and consumer spending hitting rock bottom. more with karl in a second. alisyn: teens look up to her. did miley cyrus go too far using a pole for a possible pole dance at the teen choice awards? steve: possible pole dance. alisyn: al not necessarily

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steve: economy -- foreclosures have hit another record high. brian: we're back with karl rove. karl "new york times" and "wall street journal" said signs show the recession is over that clearly the worst is over. do you disagree? >> i think economists are saying that the recession appears to be on the edge of being over. but we are going to have shaky resale sales and we are going to have employment persisting to next year. unemployment continue to go up. it's not going to feel like we're are in good economic times. and we aren't. it simply means we have stopped declining, plateauing.

we may be able to start growing a little bit. i thought it was interesting. notice that the headline in the "wall street journal" this morning is about growth in europe in germany and france. remember, when president obama went to the g-8 and said you ought to try and pass a sim stimulus package like we did. told them to and both of them said forget it their economies are recovering faster than our economy is that's what a lot of economists are saying our stimulus package is retarding the day of growth not accelerating the day of growth. brian: spending has slowed down to half of what it was in june and july. the stimulus spending. and in turn, barack obama said exactly the opposite. the stimulus spending has got to pick up. i'm not happy with it no one is listening to him. >> it's just hard. if you are going to try and spend your way to prosperity, it's hard to spend that fast. $787 billion in a lot of money. steve: no kidding. >> particularly trying to get the government spending it when it wasn't in the habit of spending. it would be better give tax cuts

paychecks or company balance sheets immediately. steve: i want to talk to you about the town halls and whether they are being effective that end of life thing has been taken out of the senate thing because so much trouble with that. you made an interesting point yesterday when you were talking about the real real audience for the town halls is. >> the real audience for the tax on the town halls are the 60 democrats in the senate and the 25 democrats in the house. because the administration wants to basically say to them, you know, ignore all those people you hear back home. ignore them. they really aren't representative. they are right wing. senator reid called them evil doers. they're trying to march jingle bellize members of congress say you know what? i don't need to worry about those people back home. cani cannot worry about this. independence are two to one against latest fox poll two to one against the obama health care plan where they were more than two to one for it six months ago.

did karl rove just mention polls? that's coming up in the story. >> great to be with you. steve: her pole dance at the teen choice awards angrying some parents. what do you think? did miley cyrus go too far by hanging on to that pole on top of the ice cream cart? a fair and balanced debate. brian: heading down brittany spears lane. 2003 a massive blackout hit the eastern united states and canada. leaving 50 million people with nowhere to look. and the number one song in this day in 1981, jesse's girl by rick springfield. that is my wife's idol. . . does your mouthwash work in six different ways? introducing listerine total care. everything you need... to strengthen teeth, help prevent cavities, and kill germs.

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alisyn: miley cyrus causing controversy with her pole dance at the teen choice awards. some say she looked like a stripper and needs to remember she is a role model to millions of young girls. did she go too far? the mother of two girls and parental guidance blog are for the "new jersey star-ledger," jessica hopper a author of the girl's guide to rocking. thanks for being here. kate, you don't like what miley did. what is the problem with it? >> whether she likes it or not she is a role model and the routine was fine it is that one little move -- alisyn: right there where she does sort of a stripperesque -- >> yes. the performance was good. it was the teen choice awards and there were so many kids watching but she did that and i thought that pushed it a little too far in a direction she probably didn't want to go. alisyn: jessica, she is 16.

is this over the top for a 16-year-old? >> i think when you put her in the context of her pop peers, she's just sort of keeping up with the competition. alisyn: which is not necessarily a good thing by the way to emulate the antics of lindsay lohan and britney spears. >> i would put her pop peers as being beyonce' and madonna and others because she is such a huge concert draw and just a huge pop performer. and in that context, what she is doing isn't unusual for a pop performer. alisyn: but kate, i want to ask about that. this pales in comparison to what the other teen stars like britney spears an lindsay lohan have done. >> i totally agree. yes sh yes, her entertainment peers may be britney spears -- excuse me -- beyonce'. but beyonce' is not 16. she is still 16 years old and i

don't want to come crews as puritan but i have a 13-year-old and i would be shocked if that is what happened at 16. alisyn: jessica, is it ok for a 16-year-old to do the same stunts as madonna and beyonce'? >> i wouldn't say it is ok. there are different standards because she is a teenager. but in the context of some of her pop peers, which are taylor swi swift, demi lavatto, their routines are not as riske que at the teen choice awards but you have to look at what happened as perhaps being an unfortunate sort of coincidence of you can't hop on top of something that small and not expect that you need something to balance. alisyn: thanks both for coming in to debate this. we invite your comments. if you want to send them in we

would love to hear them. selling healthcare reform, a prescription for tense moments like this one. >> for $99 trillion in debt how are you going to look at my chirp in their eyes and tell them they are going to have a better future with $99 trillion of debt? alisyn: our town hall debates, are they weakening the popularity of the president? annuity begin rich groins us jo talk about that. >> i'm telling you what i got. >> let me go someplace else that might be constructive. alisyn: here the rest of this at the top of the hour.

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with the press secretary. is the white house sending e-mails to people who didn't ask for them? >> you don't have to impute anything. i'm telling you what i got. e-mails from people that i never asked anything. >> let me go to someplace else that might be constructive. alisyn: we have more of that testy exchange coming up. steve: new images show the moment that a helicopter collided with an airplane over the hudson. more shocking, you will find out where a couple of the air traffic controllers were and what they were doing during the crash. one allegedly on the phone with his girlfriend the other not even in the building. they are in big trouble this morning. brian: you know the people who brag about being able to function on just six hours of sleep? the joke is on them. we will explain. this is "fox & friends." they say brian is the most important person on the couch.

alisyn: it doesn't say that. brian: you are watching the number one cable show in cables news. alisyn: geraldo rivera over there with karl rove's neck tie. he will join us with his perspective on what is going on with the healthcare debate but now chilling video. alisyn: we have chilling video the exact moment that helicopter and plane crashed last weekend over the hudson. "nbc nightly news" obtained this from a tourist who was just trying to record his friend's taking that tour in the chopper. if you look, you can see the plane's wing clipping the chopper's rotor blade making them spiral out of control as two employees at teterboro airport where the plane took off from now suspended by the f.a.a.

because the air traffic controller responsible for monitoring the plane was allegedly talking objen the pho with his girlfriend at the moment of the crash and his supervisor was not in the control tower. the spokesman for the f.a.a. says he doesn't believe the actions contribute directly to the crash but it is unacceptable. nine were killed when the chopper and plane collided. remember this disturbing video of a fight club in a fowlkes school for disabled. former employee was found guilty of orchestrating the fights. he is the first of six former employees at the school to be tried. a private funeral for eunice kennedy shriver begins in about two hours on cape cod. among the guests joe biden. the mass which will be broadcast live on shriver's website will have traditional irish music. in a fitting tribute to the

special olympics founder, athletes from the organization will carry the special olympics torch. yesterday family members and thousands of mourners gathered for a public wake honoring the 88-year-old. things could get wild in the west today. president obama is scheduled to host a town hall in montana. usually the white house holds sign ups on the website for tickets but tickets for this are being handed out on a fir first-come, first-served basis. up to 500 protesters are expected to demonstrate outside. michael vick will try to resurrect his nfl career with the philadelphia eagles. the former atlanta falcon and prisoner signed a one-year contract in an option for a second year. it is worth about $7 million. he is back in the league less than a month after being conditionally reinstated. what do football fans think of

this? >> i was shocked when i saw that, but they have to do what they have to do. i think it fits the eagles. >> i have no problem with it. he served his time. let's see what he has. i don't know if he has anything against him. alisyn: his first practice is at lehigh university tomorrow. here is a great story. he's interviewed everyone from oprah to samuel l. jackson. he has never managed to get the one interview he wanted and that is with the president, until now. damon weaver is a fifth grade journalist who you met on our show during the political conventions. he has been trying to get a sitdown with the president and he finally got his credentials. here is a snippet. >> when i interviewed vice president biden he became my home boy. now that i interview you would you like to be my home boy? >> absolutely. thank you, mate. great job.

alisyn: the president told damon he used to be able to dunk but to longer can he. he is close to 50, he said. brian: let's see geraldo dunking. >> hey, whom boy. steve: 40th anniversary of woodstock. were you there? >> no, i was in law school. air force political activist. michael vick good i think he will do a great job with the eagles. he paid the penalty. brian: that is one of the teams that wasn't interested in him. >> they have donovan mcnabb, so vick is likely successor. steve: post got their hands on a memo from somebody who allegedly in negotiations with the white house in big pharma suit calendar companies and -- big pharmaceutical companies.

they both say this memo that details what big pharma and the white house gave up they say is inaccurate but one thing is the white house agreed not to try to let people import drugs from canada and stuff which would have been cheaper. brian: driving down prices. >> i don't know if it is legit but i understand it. alisyn: gibbs was asked yesterday what did the white house give up. big pharma got a good deal. what did the white house give up. >> gibbs and major garrett should have an ultimate fighting championship. i think that they should get together. i think that any deal with big pharma is suspect right from the get go. i have a couple of more -- i don't know if they have taken it off the table. i think that the white house said let's make a deal and the house democrats said wait a second you are giving up too much. i think that more broadly

speaking i don't trust big pharma and i don't trust the insurance companies either and they are on either side of the debate. the bigger news is where is all of this emotion coming from? where is all of this passion coming from? all i know is that i have been involved in street politics and organizing my whole life but that was my job at that time when i was a young long haired lawyer as it was president obama's when he was a community organizer in chicago. but when i see ordinary folks standing up and so concerned let me tell you a quick story. my father-in-law passed away from prostate cancer more than a year ago now and i remember we did everything, every heroic measure. we had plenty of insurance coverage. we all contributed to the process of howard's last trying to fight off the scourge.

and i remember talking to him, first of all he died at 62, i said what a bummer you have been denied one of your scores of years that you had coming to you stats economy speaking. he said i'm not bitter about it. and i decided, my father-in-law told me on his death bed, we are going to abandon the heroic measures and let nature take it course. he passed away the next monday or tuesday. the fact is over 25% of our health costs go to people in the last your of their life. end of life. and i think that for that area not to be probed and examined and investigated for possible cost savings is really patently irresponsible and i think that what sarah palin said about death was way off the mark, irresponsible. brian: obviously sorry for your loss clearly but you did that as a family.

geraldo sat down with his family. why do you need three anonymous people to died? >> what it does is funds end of life counseling. it makes showers that is covered by insurance. alisyn: it is voluntary by the way. >> and to transmogrify where it is suddenly a death panel where some dumb ass bureaucrat says grandma listens and grandpa dies is preposterous send my point is that is what is helping fuel this impassioned unprecedented outpouring of populist rage. steve: they are apparently taking that out of the senate bill. >> but that doesn't make the end of life counseling reimbursed and i don't think that is right. anybody who has had this situation you want this counseling to be covered so you

don't pay for it out of your own pocket. brian: senator grassley says there is too much area for abuse. >> i have known minimum for years, he is a wonderful middle of the road republican guy who goes both ways. he is a moderate in every sense but i think he copped here and caved. alisyn: we need to move on to the f.a.a. spuntding the two workers. it is interesting, air traffic controllers one was on the phone. he was also on a land line with his girlfriend and missed what was happening with this small plane. >> you have to know that the pilot of that helicopter, jeremy clark, 32 years old, and immigrant from new zealand who recently became a citizen engaged to a wonderful lady in new jersey named danielle, his folks are here, yesterday was his memorial service. he was a friend of mine. he flew me many, many times. he was in the business many years and flew me many times, as

recently as july. we flew up to see the kids up in massachusetts. we encountered thunderstorms because jury room clark is such a prudent -- jeremy clark is such a prudent aviator he said geraldo let me put the chopper down. we landed good speed, connecticut, spent the day waiting for cloud to pass because i felt it was irresponsible to push on. a wonderful pilot. a wonderful man. i tell you could start weeping about the prospect of this. and to now hear and see had video and hear these air traffic controllers, the supervisor who by law is mandated to opinion that tower absent, the only controller on duty at teterboro just across the river in new jers jersey, with fixed wing plane taking off on the phone with his girlfriend. there should be a manslaughter investigation. this is beyond the pale. jeremy clark and those tourists

from italy and the family from pennsylvania, another skilled aviator, these people were allowed to die because these bureaucrats in that tower were so irresponsible, they were uncaring, they were -- it enfewer raten few infewer ratin f infewer rates me. to hear this, it is just i'm telling you, folks, i demand a grand jury, a federal grand jury. this is beyond negligence. this is beyond unselfishness. this criminal. horrible. steve: they have to look at it. brian: we will talk with adam shore this weekend. steve: town halls have been heating up the white house says they are not a representation of

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brian: americans have been sending a message at town hall meetings about healthcare form. where does robert gibbs it as not being indicative of the whole country. senator harry reid calls them fear mongers. with us former house speaker newt gingrich. is it politically savvy to marginalize what is happening in town halls? >> no, i think they are taking the wrong tack. i think the president would do much better to quit selling, go

out and calmly listen to people. agree it rewrite the bill in september, let the american palmeiro be in charge instead of politicians. gallop released a poll where independents are more sympathetic to the protesters than they are to the congress. i think that i would hope that the white house would have read that gallup poll and thought a little minister deeply about what they are saying. because right now you have people like the white house press secretary, speaker of the house, senate majority leader basically attacking the american people. and i always try it tell politicians your constituents can fire you but you can't fire your constituents. so, it is useful to listen to them. they are your customers. brian: senator grassley essentially left washington thinking i can work out a bipartisan deal with the president. goes to iowa and totally changes his tune. is that a victory for those people in town halls?

>> i talked to senator grassley before he went back home and he had already indicated very clearly to the president that he would oppose rationing, that he would oppose any government p n plan. i think that he went back home and realized that any effort to have end of life care in this setting is hopeless. i happen to favor you and your doctor having a conversation, i believe having an advanced derivati directive such as they have in lacrosse, wisconsin, is a tremendously effective system if between you and your doctor. but i'm deeply opposed to the federal government getting involved in some bureaucrat setting the standard for the conversation. i think the average american has the same attitude. they are prepared to have a sophisticated conversation with their doctor. they are deeply opposed to a washington bureaucrat setting the terms of the conversation. brian: i want to continue our conversation after this break and bring up would the president

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steve: we are back with newt gingrich. he's pairing up with al sharpton and secretary of education duncan as well to fix the schools. what are you up to >> well, we met with president obama recently and had a serious

discussion about the need for accountability in schools so parents know how the teachers are doing, how students are doing, how they compare to other schools and the parents ought to have the right to send their child it a charter school and there ought to be as many charter schools as needed in a state to meet the demands of parents. i would go further than that. i believe students ought to be able to have a scholarship or voucher or pell ground for k through 12. but the president has taken a very strong reform position. secretary duncan is, i think, a grit reformer, had a great record in chicago and al sharpton and i agree that the number one civil right of the 21st century has to be education. people have to be educated well enough to get a good job. so we are going to go around the country and advocate that every state adopt a strong charter school law and that parents get actively involved in knowing whether or not their children

are learning enough. and that the community realize if wore going to create -- we have to have a world class educational system. brian: my kids are not thrilled with a longer school year. that might be necessary but this is an issue where both democrats and republicans come together. but i want to talk about what will happen today. it will be the president of the united states in montana, then to colorado. we know he was in new hampshire and didn't get any tough questions. would he be better served with some of that emotion coming back at him directly? >> i think it is always better if the president can interact directly with the american people and get a real feel for how intensely they feel things. and, frankly, i think if he were to sell less and listen who are it would be to his advantage because i think the american people this summer are very frightened of washington, word

about big spending and worried about jobs and get more hostile when they see politicians selling them and not listening to them. he is a very smart guy and there is no question you go back and look at his campaign tistyle he could be very effective in an open ton hall meeting. he just devalues himself when he ends up in a rigged deal where they are all softballs. alisyn: newt gingrich, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. brian: that is an interesting pairing. alisyn: thanks, newt. good luck with the education reform. >> thank you. steve: just talking about town halls, prime time press conferences. a beer summit. president obama does a lot of talking and appearing on television. but do you wish you saw him working more? or maybe you didn't see him so

much and he was just working? alisyn: a major exchange with the white house press secretary. >> you don't have to impugn anything. i'm telling you what i got. e-mails from people that i never ask anything for. >> let me go someplace else that might be constructive. alisyn: chris wallace will be here to weigh in on that. progress... it starts with more models than toyota or honda with an epa estimated

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steve: the time of day when we bring in chris wallace from washington. since we are on television we will show you a clip from yesterday. white house briefing. major garrett revealed that some people who had not apparently signed up for moilgs from the white house were getting e-mails from david axelrod regarding the president's health carry initiative where he spelled out myths an truths. there was an exchange. we will show it to folks and get your reaction. >> good. >> violating the law and mixing political and -- >> never signed up for anything related to this white house senator obama as a candidate or anything and have received e-mails from david axelrod. how could that be? >> i would be interested to see how got that e-mail from and whether or not they are on the list. i want to be very -- >> you tell me i need to give you these e-mails so you can chem them? i'm asking.

>> asking if they are on a list. >> you are checking without asking me to double-check a n e name. >> they never asked for an e-mail from the president. >> i would have to look at what you have, major. i appreciate the fact that i have omnipotent clarity as to what you have received in your e-mail box today. >> you don't have to have clarity or impugn. i'm telling you what i got. e-mails from people that said they never asked for something from the white house. >> let me go someplace else that might be constructive. alisyn: you have omnipotent clarity as far as i know. what do you make of that exchange? >> i don't know about that but i was in a white house briefing room six years. i would say that is a b or b plus. i went through tougher confrontations with larry speaks when he was the chief spokesman for ronald reagan. in fact, at one point he said you are off the list and i said what list is that. he said the list you are not on.

and he wouldn't take my phone calls. this is the president secretary to the -- press secretary for the president. so for the supposed protocol it gets pretty down and dirty and major was doing his job and robert gibbs was doing his job. steve: what about the very issue, axelrod sent out this e-mail and some people who didn't sign up for e-mails wound up getting his stuff. we received e-mail from people today who said the same thing happened to me, or i signed up -- i sent something to that flag at white house.gov and now i'm getting e-mail from the white house. nobody is really connecting the dots how these e-mails are getting out, have they >> well, no and you got precisely to the point which is connecting the dots. it is an interesting allegation. it certainly is worthy of investigating. i know major is doing exactly that today to find out how in

fact these people got these e-mails. if they signed up for some listing during the campaign or a list on white house.gov or if they got the e-mails from a frie friend, forwarded from a friend, that is understandable. but if somehow the white house is sending them out to people who never asked to get e-mails you wonder what is the data base they are getting it from. it is worth trying to connect the dots. brian: by the way, for the record, chris wallace has not taken my call in 10 years. >> didn't you know about the s.e.c thing where you are able to avoid crank calls and block them. brian: evidently i'm in your block list. first off, when you talk about the town hall meetings and emotion you have seen it was easy to marginalize what is happening with the tea parties but this will be tough to marginalize. do you think the white house should stop doing it? >> yes. and i think in a sense without effectively saying so the president is.

in the fact he is going to relatively conservative areas in montana and com, he understands that -- and i think you saw that in the polls, too. people understand this is no agenda. this is not a vast right swing conspiracy. this is real people with real concerns about health care and about the deficit and about what they are going to be paying out of pocket and i think they realize they have to confront those issues head on. so, that is one of the reasons he is going to these town hall meetings and as he did in new hampshire pleading for tough questions because they realize they have a selling job to to and they are losing. alisyn: i have seen your show and i know you operate under the cardinal rule of television which is leave them wanting more. the president is apparently not doing that. we have a new poll saying that would you like to see more of the president on television or less. and since march the less number has jumped up to 49%.

is it time to back off for him? >> well, it is far for me to say he should. they think he is their best weapon and when there are so many people raising questions the president has absolutely got to get out there and try to, one, defend, and, two, explain his healthcare plan. i would also wonder if at some point -- and i know they are talking about this at the white house as part of a negotiating process -- at some point whether he should set stronger parameters. he has basically left it up to congress to define this. i think he will have to say, for instance, charles grassley says the senate finance committee has dumped the end of life consultations. if that is the case how much would it help the president for him to say i really think these have been mischaracterized but if you have concerns about it, it is not an essential part of healthcare. let's drop t. there is a certain point at which you have to know

when to hold them and know when to fold them. i don't think he has to fold health insurance but the more explosive parts. steve: chris wallace, we will be watching you this weekend. who is your big guest? >> we will be talking -- tweel try to get to the facts of healthcare error. we will have the head of the a.m.a., aarp. one of the top republicans richard shelby. kent conrad a member of the so-called gang of six. yes, i know what you deal in, but we are going to deal in facts. steve: check your local listings for show times. thank you, chris wallace. brian: now for headlines. pentagon saying no timetable for the war in afghanistan. robert gates says it will take a minimum of a few years to defeat the taliban and he says it will take a lot longer than that to turn afghanistan into a stable

society. as for when the u.s. troops will be needed he left that open but admitted resources are getting strained. alisyn: secretary of state clinton wrapping up her trip to africa right now finishing up a meeting with the prime minister of cape verde. yesterday she met withly bernie leaders and discussed democracy. >> there are no magic wands or i would have brought one for all of you. there are no quick fixes for countries making the transition from violent conflict to lasting peace and stability. alisyn: she toured seven african nangss to bolster diplomat ties. sdwloo the woman who tried to assassinate president ford could be released today. lynette squeaky fromm has been granted parole and could be released two. in 1975 fromme pointed a gun at president ford in sacramento. a secret service agent grabbed

her arm causing the gun to fall to the ground. brian: firefighters are battling wildfires in california but they are getting more manpower and help from mother nature. more firefighters, 600 helicopters and fixed wing aircraft are expected to fight the flames today. higher humidity and light are wind will help. it has torched more than 2,800 acres and drove thousands out of their homes. alisyn: researchers from the broad institute say they may have found drugs that specifically attack and kill cancer stem cells. it is believed tumor growth is caused by the cells and some even survive after chemotherapy. steve: you probably remember her as the notorious villain with the major attitude in one of the early seasons of apprentice. she has now decided to enter a seminary.

she is headed to the united theological seminary in dayton to pursue a doctorate of minister industry. the course also take about two years to complete. brian: maybe no one else was calling her and this was way. are you one of those who brag about getting six hours of sleep and being able to function? alisyn: i don't claim to function. brian: but you do get that. chances are you are not telling the truth because scientists found a family with a genetic mutation that causes them to require only six hours of sleep a night. but the gene is only found in less than 3% of the population. steve: so, if you are a mutant genewise with that you can get by on six hours but only 3% of the people have that. brian: donald trump must have it. he sleeps like an hour. steve: straight ahead, university of louisville

basketball coach rick pitino admitting he had an affair. will that admission cost him his job and should it? alisyn: first let's check in with my work husband clayton to see what is coming up. >> i'm so lonely here. this weekend cash for clufrnlers. everybody getting behind. some upset about the auto dealers upset because they are not getting their checks from the federal government. they say wait 10 days they are not getting the checks. we will talk to somebody about attachment and karl rove will be back here. that same spot where he was. he will be here tomorrow to tell us about a new television show he is on. it is not a news show. it is a cartoon. also, grab yourself cold one because there iss is new news a beer. god for your health. we will break that down for you. that is tomorrow 7:00 a.m. right

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digiorno crispy flatbread pizza. it's not delivery, it's digiorno. brian: he is accused of rape and of the target of an extortion plot. now we know rick pitino has admitted to police that he did have sex with the accuser and did pay for her abortion. alisyn: what is left of his career and what about that morality clause in his contract. judge andrew napalitano is here. this is a messy, ugly case but he did come out and apologize. does that help give the university cover? >> it might give the university cover. the more as brian pointed out the more we learn the worse it seems. here is the bottom line. you can lose your job for doing something that is offensive but not criminal. so, having sex on a table in a

restaurant with a person with whom you are not married is obviously offensive. it is not a crime. paying for an abortion as morally repugnant as that is, in the first three months of the baby's life in the womb is not a crime. so what he did is not a crime. however, in his contract with the university of louisville it says if he engages in activity that could cause scandal to the university or to him, the university has the right to terminate that contract. alisyn: he fits the bill. >> he agreed to that when he signed the contract so the ball, so to speak, is in their court. they have absolute discretion to pull the trigger or not. brian: we are assuming the story ends now. he apologized. it was brutal. as bad as it gets. he apologized to his family. happened years ago but she says he is a philanderer and she hopes other women come forward and she will go on trial for

extortion. more stuff is going to come out. >> that is the danger of a trial. you never know what will come out because people will grasp at taurus straws to defend themselves. if there are other women in his life besides his wife, this will be more of an opportunity for the university of louisville to do what they don't want to do. you know better than anybody how good a coach he was. brian: six months ago he was selling his life story. >> i'm saying that as somebody who is a big fan. he's in deep trouble bus if they pull the trigger, meaning if they terminate him they won't owe him a nickel. they will go try to steal calipari me calipariment alisyn: i wish i knew what that is. >> a basketball coach of equal skill who is also in kentucky and former client. alisyn: since they had the

morality clause don't they have to honor it? >> no. that is a great question. it reposes them discretion to honor it. they may decide because of his apologies and incredible image in kentucky and in the world of athletics that they can weather this storm. brian: it will be about the alumni and if people pull out money and fan base. we have the wallace kid. geraldo. >> rivera kid and dick morris fellow. that is later. >> have a nice weekend with your television husband. alisyn: i'm sorry, i'm not cheating on you. >> why wasn't i included in that? brian: you two work that out. >> a group of cub scouts robbed a thief stole their camping equipment. alisyn: first let's check in for what is on at the top of the

hour. megyn: is john edwards about to admit he is the father of reille hunter's child? the president's healthcare plan is struggle bug wait until you hear what is happening with his cap and trade plan. and is the white house collecting your e-mails or isn't it? my exchange with bill burden ton, major's with robert gibbs and big salmon breaks it down. ♪ bicycle, what are we waiting for? the flowers are blooming. the air is sweet. and zyrtec® starts... relieving my allergies... 2 hours faster than claritin®. my worst symptoms feel better, indoors and outdoors. with zyrtec®, the fastest... 24-hour allergy medicine, i promise not to wait as long to go for our ride. zyrtec® works fast, so i can love the air™.

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alisyn: the funeral procession for michael scott speicher is under way right now in florida. you are looking live where the procession is beginning. his remains arrived in jacksonville yesterday, 18 years after his fa-18 hornet was shot down the first night of the gulf

war. another alert, a live look at hyannis, massachusetts, where an invitation only mass will happen in about an who are for eunice kennedy shriver. her son-in-law armnold schwarzenegger will be among those deliver you'lleulogieeulo. she died tuesday morning at age 88. steve: cub scout troop 114 in sunrise, florida suffered a major loss when a trailer containing thousands of dollars of supplies was stolen. who could do such a thing? joining us is scout leader linda january send and her son and scout member lucas. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. steve: linda, when did you discover that this trailer filled with stuff that you had

done fund-raising for 10 years to collect was missing? >> my discovered it about two weeks ago. i wanted to go by and check on the trailer and i got there and it was gone. steve: what was it the trailer? >> all of our scout stuff. tents, canopies, dutch ovens. everything we use to camp. steve: lucas, all the stuff you need to have fun as a cub scout and boy scout stolen from you. lucas, how did that make you feel? >> i'm not lucas. >> answer the question. >> sad. steve: how did that make you feel, young man? >> sad. steve: sad? all right. all right. well, luckily for you apparently the people at eastern mountain

sports heard the story and take a look. i kind of feel like monty hall. i would like to introduce to you ashley and dan from the location in new york city. what has eastern mountain sports decided to donate to it particular group that lost everything in >> well, we heard about all of the different things they lost and we are trying to give a healthy dose of everything with some tents, sleeping bags, a sto stove. >> pretty much basically our wish list of what we wanted to go camping with. steve: so, i understand you guys have gotten finally linda apparently you now do have a safe place to keep stuff. right? >> yes, we do. actually, we do. hidden harbor is storing or trailer for us. steve: look at all of this stuff. you have everything you need. i used to be a scout. you have first aid kits, tarps,

fire starters, bed rolls. all of this. dan what were you telling me? what is this called? >> so this doesn't happen again this is basically wire mesh that you can lock around a tree or anything. steve: that is good. what do you think, linda? >> my gosh, i think it is great. thank you so much. can't wait to go camping. steve: we have all of this. >> thank you. steve: we thank you for joining us. >> thank you. steve: for a behind the scenes exclusive check out foxfan.com. we will continue in two minutes. the mouthwash that gets teeth four times whiter than the leading toothpaste. and kills bad breath germs. listerine® whitening vibrant white™. and albacore tuna, crab, salmon and ocean fish flavors.

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