tv The Live Desk FOX News August 21, 2009 1:00pm-3:00pm EDT
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room because this is where the news begins. behind us over here, this is the national desk. they are covering america for you. if you scan over here, this is the foreign desk. their job is to cover the globe. over here, every single picture that comes into fox news channel comes in right along here, the media desk. on "the live desk," those brand new pictures will always be on the boxes on the right-hand side of the screen. jamie: there are reason new details and the death of day for bikini model. she was stripped and stuffed in a suitcase. a reality tv star is taking detectives to canada. the horrifying ways that police say he tried to cover his tracks. trace: the commander-in-chief set to speak on afghanistan's
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presidential election. that is before he heads off to camp david. we will go live to the white house. jamie: there are some of lee numbers for the man in the oval office. new national polls are showing americans are losing confidence in president obama. it is thought to be a direct result of the health-care debate. trace: we begin with the president's pre-vacation rambling over health care. we told you how the president paz approval rating had fallen, the same goes for the approval numbers on health care reform. we will have much more on that in a bid. first, the news on two crucial meetings. the president met with former senate majority leader tom daschle. he was the first pick to help lead the drive for health care reform. now we're also getting brand new information about the meeting between six important lawmakers, three democrats,
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three republicans. major garrett is live for us at the white house. how did the gang of six meeting go? >> it was not in person. it was by telephone. it lasted about 90 minutes. we are told that they wrestled with the same issues that have been wrestling with all along, how to fashion a bill that lowers costs of health care and expands access to those who do not currently have health care. we're beginning to hear that those six senators are also giving more serious consideration to shrinking the bill down to make it less ambitious. maybe it does not have the public option or maybe if it does, it has a more finely attuned public option. those are the kinds of things that were discussed last night. nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. we're a long way from that.
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trace: it is a standoff and the president is on vacation. how does the health care reform debate progressed while he is gone? >> the president needs a break. the white house knows that the poll numbers have been trending steadily downward they are probably somewhat hopeful that the president being out of the frame might take some of the pressure off of health care so that they can restart and refrained the message when congress gets back to town. administration officials will probably be out on the road talking about health care. the president will be visible in martha's vineyard. trace: major garrett, thank you. jamie: are you ready for some encouraging news? the economy could be on the cost of recovery.
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that is coming from federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. he said he believes the economy is on the verge of recovery. his remarks having an immediate and positive impact on markets, a search that may have been helped by another positive report. trace: a little bit of light at the end of the tunnel for housing. home sales are surging more than 7% in july. americans rushed to take advantage of the first-time buyer tax credit. foreclosures and other displays properties made up one-third of all market transactions last month. oil, by the way, is up a bit as well. jamie: new information in the case of the former bikini model and police found her body stuffed in a suitcase thrown in a trash bin in california. the case is getting even more
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horrified. >> the fingers and teeth were removed. jamie: we're learning the u.s. marshal's office is offering a $25,000 reward for this man. her ex-husband, a former reality show contestant, if he looks familiar. authorities say that he has crossed the border into his native canada. that has sparked an international manhunt. anita, what is the very latest from police about the investigation? >> hello. you heard those horrifying new details. her teeth and fingers had been removed, presumably to make it more difficult for police to identify her body. you mentioned yesterday also that police had charged her ex- husband with her murder. we also just spoke to the police
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department a few minutes ago. they are working in conjunction with the u.s. marshal's office, canadian authorities, and washington state authorities to try to find him. they believe that he has crossed the border into canada. that is where he is from. jamie: if you are here and you helped him, you might be indicted on this case. now have charged him. the question is, he is in canada. if they have relations with the united states, but they refuse -- would they refuse to extradite him back? >> really interesting question. what we have learned from the district attorney's office is that this is not a death penalty case at this time. there are a lack of special circumstances. he is charged with first-degree murder, not a capital case. authorities are hoping that if he is caught in canada, they can persuade canadian officials to extradite him so that he can stand trial and that would carry
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a sentence of 25 years to life in prison. jamie: we do not know that she was pregnant. have police talked about a motive? why would this crime have taken place in the first place? >> police are not talking about that. we do know a little bit about their relationship. it was very tumultuous. jealousy may be at the heart of this. there are reports that brian jenkins -- ryan jenkins read a text message to another man before she went missing. he has an assault charge in canada. he also as a domestic battery charge here in the united states. some very interesting and troubling details surrounding their relationship. jamie: thank you so much. following all the developments. in mexico, some gunmen
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assassinated a leading lawmaker in one of that country's drug plagued regions. he was found in a car that was in front of his house. it is in the southern part of mexico and it is known as the home of the resort town acapulco. he was considered a candidate for governor in 2011. trace: getting more information from the foreign desk. millions of ballots on the wary ir way to kabul. both candidates are claiming victory. preliminary results will not even be ready until tuesday. the final results, sometime in september. security is still extraordinarily tight on the streets of kabul with police searching vehicles for weapons.
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it least 26 people were killed in election-related violence. you may have thought it was over, but it is just beginning. a who official saying an explosion of h1n1 infections is on the way. why should a little thing like a global pandemic interfere with your love like? the cdc has tips to keep romance alive even on your swine flu sickbed. here we are at the end of the road. get to a dealership. you have very little time before the cash for clunkers program is in the rearview mirror for good.
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new chapter in the swine flu pandemic. health workers say that tests show the virus has now infected birds, specifically turkeys. trace: after five weeks and $3 billion, the transportation department announcing that the cash for clunkers program will end on monday. the program gives car buyers rebates if they trade in their older vehicles for new work, more fuel-efficient ones. the rebate money has been affronted by the struggling dealerships. many say that they are still waiting for the government to reimburse them. carl cameron is live at darcars. we hear that you are digging into some of the pros and cons there. what exactly are they? >> it is a rush. if you look around the office, just about every table is occupied. the program and on monday night. the latest numbers we have, we
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expect them to be updated by the end of the day. 167,000 of the sales were approved. $195 million worth of rebates have been reimbursed from uncle sam. there have been a lot of glitches. there has been a slowdown of the process. some dealerships did not have the money to float these rebates without reimbursement. they have paid out $5.5 million worth of rebates. they found out that they have been reimbursed for a total of 8 individual rebates. it has been tough on organizations like this. there are other implications to contemplate. i want to introduce you to the honor here. thank you for joining us. we were talking earlier about what is coming in and what is
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going out. explain it. >> of the 1300 deals that we have done, 77% of the units going out our import vehicles. the trade ins, 82% of them are detroit domestic. >> these are american cars that are coming in, but the imports are going out. what does that mean for the car industry? >> i am not sure how much impact it will have on the economy right now. it will have a huge impact on detroit for a couple of years down the road. you will start to see a huge shift in their market share as a result of a program like this. >> what do you expect to be import of loyalty? >> nearly 80% of the customers who buy an import today will trade that vehicle in for
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another import. >> that gives you an idea of the potential implications down the road. the implications in the short term, long lines at car dealerships for people trying to get a hold of that rebate. when you talk to consumers as they leave, they are smiling and they are loving it. trace: carl cameron live for us at darcars. jamie: just when you think you knew everything there is to know about h1n1, pay attention. the world health organization is now warning of a day explosion of h1n1 cases. a top official says the swine flu is heading into an acceleration time that will mean more cases and possibly more deaths. if there are any signs of resistance to the vaccine that is expected to come out this fall, we could be in real trouble. the chief medical officer at methodist hospital in new york
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is joining me. first of all, about the explosion, have they predicted this well in the past? >> they have not always been accurate. i have not seen a lot of activity going on, who is going to get vaccinated, when, what are you going to do? jamie: at the same time, the world health organization, they are saying tamiflu, not everyone should take. >> we have to ration it because we do not have enough. socialized! the very young, pregnant women, the people who are immune. jamie: the interesting thing is elderly people who need to get the regular flu vaccine have a
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resistance to the h1n1 virus? >> the have a relationship to it because they were around when they were around. they do not get sick from it. they seem to have this immunity. jamie: the explosion may or may not be true. maybe the world health organization has more information than we do. >> it is irresponsible for healthy people to take tamiflu. jamie: thank you very much. trace: here is a recommendation for college students to have the h1n1 virus. six students should either refrain from kissing or they should wear a surgical mask while kissing. it is on the website. the cdc says students to come into contact with each other should either wear a mask.
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the cdc has a knowledge that the warning and its guidelines may be on the confusing side. it says it is rewarding the recommendations. -- re-wording the recommendations. check out the tracking h1n1 section. all the latest on the virus as kids had back-to-school. this is critical. our website has everything you need to know. jamie: check it out. maybe you got one of those emails about health care reform from david axelrod. we did some digging and we found the company that sent those emails. who paid for them? is there any connection to the white house? girls gone wild again. this time with sticks, rocks,
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trace: 23 minutes past the hour. that is a live look at the white house. we're seconds away from president obama speaking on yesterday's presidential election in afghanistan just before he heads to camp david for the weekend. the freed lockerbie bomber. reports say that libya is trying to keep him out of sight. they are concerned about it damaging relations with the rest -- with the west. did you see gaddafi's son
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lifting his arm like he was the heavyweight champion of the world? i wanted to throw a brick through the television. jamie: washington d.c. police are using a video that is posted on youtube to go after some suspects in an assault case. take a look at the video that was posted this week. it shows a fight among several young women. she ends up on the ground prodigy is beaten, kicked while somebody continues to film. the fight ends when a car drives by and police do not know who shot the video. it has been very helpful. >> i think this video is outstanding evidence for us to hproceed in the case. jamie: 2 arrests have already been made and there may be more to come. trace: white house e-mail
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received by people who never ask for them, the messages on health care climbing to be from the president's senior adviser. sent from a website called gov delivery. it specializes in government to citizen communication. who is paying for this? what, if any connection doesn't have to the white house? mike emanuel is live at the white house. we have traced the email back to a minnesota-based company. what exactly is gov delivery and what were they saying about the axelrod email? >> they are not saying anything about the axelrod e-mail. they are not commenting on any relationship with the white house. they represent a ton of federal, state, and local agencies. basically what they do is they get the message from the agency and they get the list of the people you want to send it to. they are not talking about any
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ties with the white house, but we know that they do a lot of government work, including a variety of agencies. trace: what our sources saying about gov livery? >> they say that the ceo is a total [unintelligible] he described for us that these guys are basically just the mailmen. they deliver the message. the list is crafted elsewhere. what these guys do is make sure that email from government entities to media or other people get to where they're supposed to go promptly and effectively. they are calling this company bipartisan pros. trace: has at the white house commented on this? >> we brought them the evidence we have in terms of its
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relationship with the white house. we ask a lot of questions. we have been told that they will get back to us. we still have a lot of questions. we are on the case. trace: mike, thank you. jamie: brand new polls out today. americans have spoken once again. the support among senior citizens is sinking and that is not the only drop we're seeing today. we want to tell you about another important voting bloc that seems to be losing confidence. you know the newspaper where the pictures moved around the page? it is not just magic anymore. it is not just in the movies. brand new technology that could be delivered with perhaps your morning paper or magazine. wait until you see this technology.
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trace: what about hurricane bill? >> we are watching bill. this is actually a tornado warning. that is something we're watching across the pope announced. bill is on everybody's radar. hopefully, we will see that -- or not. we will keep an eye on it for you. the latest advisory comes out at 2:00. trace: fingers crossed. in stockton, calif., adam housley has what cures that. >> minor league baseball is continuing to thrive. a family of four can go to a minor league game and spend less than $50 on tickets and food combined. it is revitalizing a lot of downtown areas. you are seeing good baseball.
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six players already in the big leagues. trace: brand new information. jamie: there is new video of that just came into fox news of the violent clashes going on in the west bank. take a look. israeli police firing tear gas as palestinian protesters run for cover. some of them are firing back with slingshots. the demonstration to protest a barrier that has been built by israel near west bank towns. protesters say that it cuts farmers off from hundreds of acres of farm fields. china shutting down a factory after 300 children in the area are poisoned. the children nearby were believed to be sickened by police and from the factory. all of the children hospitalized
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had lead levels more than 2.5 times what was safe. this -- there is growing anger in china over public safety scandals, many were children have been the main victims. trace: back and forth on health care now. will the president be able to push through health-care reform? there could be a major effect on voters. how much confidence do you have in obama to make the right decisions? his support, as you can see is plummeting among independent voters. it is down 20% from 4to 41 from. our next guest is the director of the university of virginia's center for politics. he projected that obama would win the presidential election.
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the question i have on this is, basically, we know the democrats want this public option. the republicans say that they do not want it. it is the independent voters who could break this. >> absolutely. remember, those independent voters are the ones who will not just determine who wins the next presidential race, they are the people who swing back and forth in midterm elections. abel determine, for example, how many seats the republicans pick up. you better believe that members of the house of representatives pay attention to them. trace: is the health care storm -- is it a byproduct of the stimulus storm? the democrats almost single- handedly pushed this through. the unemployed -- the unemployment rate is getting worse.
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>> that is a very good point. often, we do not connect the dots, but the dots have to be connected here. it is the continuing bad economy and the fact that the stimulus bill passed early in obama's term has not apparently changed the underlying elements of the economy. these things matter in how people look at health care reform and whether they think this additional $1 trillion over the next 10 years should be spent. trace: if the democrats decide to go this malone, the question is all of the anchor and pull numbers. it all translates into seats, congressional seats. how many seats and how much impact? >> i think it is going to be considerable. we're actually working on our
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first projections for 2010. i think people may be surprised when it comes out, the potential republican gain could be larger than expected. why is that? continuing bad economy, unhappiness over health care, declining presidential ratings. it is the same it usually is for midterm elections. trace: this is the health care bill. look at this thing. it is 1100 pages. i thought the idea was to just get everybody covered. this thing is 1100 pages. tell me what is in this thing. should we be afraid of some of the stuff that we are not reading? >> honestly, i think the length of this bill is playing a role in this. i hear so many people mention it. i give email about it. how many members of congress have actually read the bill that long? i have written books longer than that. of course, my students do not
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read them. when you go to a certain life, your guaranteeing what you do is not going to be read. trace: it is good of you. we all read them. they are magic. jamie: you cannot fool the professor. thank you so much. imagine flipping through your favorite magazine and all of a sudden, you come across a video clip of a tv show right inside. it sounds like something out of a futuristic movie. we're here to tell you it is an amazing new technology and you will be seeing it soon. it is called a video in print advertisement. it will be in the magazine " entertainment weekly" this fall. sam, you have it here. thank you for bringing in. why don't you give us a demonstration. what does it do? >> i the screen is pretty small.
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after a 45 second introduction with the cast of one of their sitcoms, you can push anyone of these buttons here and see clips of some of their shows. jamie: they have things called up fronts. president obama is coming up here to speak. he is about to go to camp david on vacation. before he does, a few words from president obama. >> i want to say a few words about this week's election in afghanistan. this was an important step forward in their efforts to take control of their future even as violent extremists are trying to stand in their way. this election was run by the afghan people. in fact, it was the first
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democratic election run by afghans in over three decades more than 30 presidential candidates, more than 3000 provincial council candidates ran for office, including a record number of women. some 6000 polling stations were open around the country. afghan national security forces took the lead in providing security. over the last few days, we have seen acts of violence and intimidation by the taliban there may be more in the days to come. we knew that taliban would try to derail this election. even in the face of this brutality, millions of afghans exercise the right to choose their leaders and determine their own destiny. as i watched the election, i was struck by the courage in the face of intimidation. there is a clear contrast between those who seek to control the future of the ballot box and those who killed to
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prevent that from happening. once again, extremists are showing themselves willing to murder innocent moslems -- men, women, and children, to advance their aims. i believe that the future belongs to those who want to build, not those who want to destroy. that is the future that was sought by afghan to went to the polls. the united states did not support any candidate in this election. our only interest was the result fairly, accurately reflecting the will of the afghan people. meanwhile, we will continue to work with our afghan partners to strengthen afghan security, governance, an opportunity. our goal is clear, to disrupt, dismantle, and to feed al qaeda and their extremist allies.
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that will will be achieved in our troops will be able to come home. to our men and women in uniform are doing an extraordinary job in afghanistan. so are the civilians who served by their side. all of them are in our thoughts and prayers, as are their families back home. this is not a challenge that we ask for, but it can't -- came to our shores when al qaeda launched the 9/11 attacks. we share a common interest in pursuing security, opportunity, and justice. we look forward to renewing our partnership with the afghan people as they move ahead under a new government. i want to congratulate the afghanistan people on carrying out this historic election. i wish them a blessed month as they come together to usher in the beginning of ramadan.
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trace: president obama is on his way to afghanistan. the question is, will more troops go over there? the president saying, we did not ask for this war. he talked about the election in afghanistan. the voting turnout there was about 40%. last time, it was about 70%. the taliban clearly had an impact there. the election results, we do not will have on a daily basis. jamie: first, camp david and
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then martha's vineyard. how will he continue to work on health care reform? the cool segment of the day for you, sam brought us a treat. this is going to appear in magazines for a particular network. the technology is right here. you open it up and it starts predicted is a video screen and it plays clips from the new tv shows on this network. how much does this cost? it must be a boost to the magazine. is it worth the cost for the companies doing it? >> we are here talking about it. that adds something to the value. these screens cost in the low teens dollars. they will not say how many they are producing. jamie: that is interesting -- certain markets only.
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>> a lot of it is just a stunt. they do these every year. cbs printed logos on egg crates. jamie: will i still get those fragrance strips that i can open up? >> perhaps they will have both. they have done the fragrance strips. cbs did add a few years ago. jamie: thank you so much. interesting stuff. anyway, there are shocking new developments to tell you about. we have been following the murder case of the swimsuit model in her mutilated body. missing her fingers and her teeth, found stuffed in a suitcase and dumped in a trash bin. police say they know who did it. they are looking for her ex- husband in an international manhunt. they think that he has crossed
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into his homeland, canada. if you see him, call authorities. he is a former reality tv show contestant charged with a brutal murder. investigators believe that he is in canada. joining me now is bob burton, a bounty hunter. his team is trying to attract jenkins down. >> it is a very ugly, but sensitive matter. jamie: her family said that anyone who helps him -- it is a travesty. what are your people doing? i know that you're a volunteer bounty hunter. >> i am not a volunteer. i am a full-time professional we have 1500 agents. jamie: who hired you in this case?
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>> most of the time, it is a bonding agency that hires us. oftentimes we will come into a situation like this just for the reason of being a good citizen. in this case, we're looking for him in canada. we are also looking for the judas. we have to find him that will betray this person. we're looking for that person so that we can find him. jamie: how do you do that? >> everybody knows somebody who knows somebody. we are going into some telephone bills that he made. jamie: any leads so far? are there any that you can share with us?
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>> fox always gets our news releases immediately. let me put it this way, never has a fox you were done anything like this. it is the other people. jamie: i'm not sure what that statement means. if he is in canada, if he did commit this crime, give me a little bit of a criminal profile before i let you go. is he dangerous to anybody else? >> i think he is emotionally driven. both of the prior incidents were based on emotion. i do not think he is a threat to society. taking away a person's life is one thing. if he's pushed into a corner, god knows what he will do. he is a canadian national.
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he can hide up there. if the canadians find him, they will not give him back. jamie: the death penalty is not in play. they cannot refuse to extradite him. thank you very much. trace: you saw it happen right here live on fox news channel. according to our e-mail, it made most of you pretty sick to your stomach. the man with the blood of 270 men on his hands walk out of prison. the judge said he was simply to six to stay behind bars. the president just said that this was highly objectionable. the question is, is there anything families of his victims can do now that the killer is free? this tape just into the news room. we always have time for a chase. we will show you how this one ended. you have to see it next.
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jamie: the tree there -- d.c. the top there, chrysler? there ceo is leaving before the end of the year, and he was the only big league maintained after the company filed for bankruptcy in june. bob novak, many are mourning the passing that happened earlier this week. he lost his brave battle with brain cancer, and he was only 79 years old. and the posting north and west of new york city, warning straddling the new york- pennsylvania border in effect
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until 2:00 p.m. eastern. while the weather moving into the northeast tonight. -- while whether -- wild weather moving into the northeast tonight. trace: he apparently had a motorcycle. chase him on foot. another one is coming, he is going, going, going. look at this. down, tackled. by the way, the motorcyclist had very minor injuries. a fun friday chavis for you. jamie: he killed 270 people, and some cannot believe that he received a hero's welcome. he was convicted and the pan am 1 03 bombing over scotland, the
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only terrorist convicted, and he was released after serving eight years after a scottish court decided he should be on grounds of compassion for having terminal canceled. it has more than outraged families, and today they are trying to see if they have legal recourse. >> we do know that the white house issued a statement condemning the homecoming, calling the images of the flag- waving crowd averages and disgusting. u.s. and u.k. governments will be watching closely to see how this plays out. britain's foreign secretary says that how the libyan government handles itself in the next few days will be significant in the way that the world views libya's reentry into the civilized community of nations. while this is seen in the west as a heroes welcome, a journalist i spoke to said it
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was subdued by libyan standards. apparently the party was still down of the last minute. he was risked with a twist to his home, and there has been scant coverage of this in the media. john mccain, joseph lieberman, and susan collins went to libya a week ago to discuss the possibility of delivering non- lethal defense equipment. they have issued a statement. they have issued a statement. in terms of what the agreed family members are going to do, yes, they are going to be meeting, they will have a conference call, to be specific about what their next move should be.
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they're talking about joining a protest outside of the united nations when colonel khadafy makes a historic visit there next month. jamie: you saw that video. trace: they tried to play it down. he raised his hand, like he was the champion of a prize fight. it clearly said to the u.s., "you know what? we will do what we want." we ask you if the release was directing to do on the grounds of compassion. here are the results. 95% of you said it was the wrong thing to do, and the comments we got on the fox news website, you have got to look at these things, because we cannot say a lot of them here. outstanding, overwhelming opinions on this one. log on to and see what your
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- k.c. and trace: 30 -- trace: casey anthony wants testimony at her trial from the search company. information leading to believe she did not kill her toddler. in the middle, a july home sales surged the most in a decade, and cash for clunkers is coming to an end on monday. jamie: a young light is on the line. just about an hour from now, a hearing underway in florida about this girl. she is 17 years old, and her name is rifqa bary. she got on the bus and went to florida from ohio, saying that she feared for her safety and had no choice, because she
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claims that her muslim father threatened to kill her after she converted to christianity. now it is up to a florida judge to decide if she should stay put or if she must be sent back to her parents, and whether or not she has anything to fear. we are in miami following the developments. good to see you. this is an interesting case, because there is no real connection to florida except for some religious folks from the internet. what will happen, because there are allegations on both sides. >> christian activists are coming out in full force in support of this girl. there's been a demonstration outside the courthouse in downtown orlando over the next hour. we know that she did become a christian. she met on facebook the pastors
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of the global revolution church. next thing, she is going from columbus, ohio, to orlando, florida. the pastor says they got a phone call from her on the bus and arranged to pick her up at the greyhound station in orlando, and she stayed with them at their home for 16 or 19 days. what we do not know for certain is whether her allegations that she is facing violent threats from her parents, and honor killing, as she puts it, because she left islam and would to christianity. only she has made that claim. the columbus police department has not encountered any evidence of this, nor do we have any evidence other than the father's claim that the christian pastors are brainwashing her and were involved in her disappearance. those are allegations made by
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the two sites, so we have a convoluted situation, and the judge will have the jurisdictional hearing starting at 3:15 in orlando. jamie: we will talk to a legal panel coming up, but the governor there, charlie crist, has received a lot of pressure to get involved in the situation. >> he has the legal team heads down from toss the to -- -- the legal team is heading down from tallahassee to orlando. they want to keep it going until all of it is resolved, one way or another. they want to make sure the judge has not sent her back to ohio this afternoon, because it is
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very unlikely that in a 2.5 hour hearing, all of these attorneys from all of these factions will be able to make their cases and get some sort of resolution as to whether or not this girl is facing a threat from her family. she has gone on record as saying that there is no threat, we do not want to kill her, we just what are our daughter to come home. and they are of course alleging she is being brainwashed by these christians down in orlando. so it should be very interesting, to say the least. jamie: we know you will fall the developments, and we will check back with you. and we wanted you to weigh in. ask you to go to our website and tell us how you think the courts should handle the case. should this girl be sent home, or should she be allowed to stay
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in florida? here is what you are saying. seven % say she should go back to ohio, 40% say she should stay in florida, and 51% of you believe the florida legislature should protect her. you can still cast your vote at foxnews.com. stay with us, also, because we will talk about breaking details as the case takes place. also, if the legal panel is weighing in on whether florida had any jurisdiction in the first place. trace: president obama is talking about afghanistan, but health care is still on the agenda. tom daschle was brought in to help the white house put together a senate deal, with the theory that he knows the players and what makes them tick. let's bring in bill, our washington managing editor and vice president of news. we started the week with the health and human services secretary saying, well, the
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public option is not essential. now we are back to having this in full flower. this is a rasmussen poll that says without that option, 12% is the number of democrats that would strongly support reform. today you have nancy pelosi saying there will be no bill without a public auction. option. it is a standoff. >> august is been a cruel month to president obama,, was enjoying wide popularity until this month and now seems to be spiraling downward. you have a free fall for not just his approval but for his handling of health care, increasing talk that the expected republican gains in the midterm next year will be larger than anticipated. you have people like george stephanopoulos saying things
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like, well, the public thinks he is in over his head. when you have got george stephanopoulos talking about whether barack obama is in over his head, barack obama is in a world of trouble. i remember in september, stanley greenberg said president bush was in over his head, just before september 11, and democrats were rubbing their hands together that they had been given such a vulnerable opponent in the form of george bush. now the shoe is on the other foot, and i am amazed at how obama's fortune has turned south in recent weeks. trace: the biggest concern is that you know republicans are against you, and you look at independent voters, and they are fleeing in droves. if you begin to govern from the left, which, if you look at a clock, most americans are between five and seven -- if you
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start going there, what are the political consequences? what is the fallout if you govern too much from the left? >> i think people on both sides of the aisle acknowledge that america is a right-of-center country in the main, so what the fallout is, independent voters are breaking against president obama. as you saw and the washington post poll this morning, not only independents but also seniors. much was made of the youth vote during the presidential election, and we can argue about how much that went up, but elections tend to excite young voters and they come out to the polls. they do not come to midterms. seniors do, and they're very worried about the health plan, because they are hearing horror stories out of canada and
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britain. there is a lot to be worried about. the political landscape can change dramatically one way or another in the next 15 months, but right now, it is looking very grim for democrats. jamie: also in washington, the justice department says that lawyers for gitmo detainees crossed the line, showing suspected terrorists photos of cia personnel, including some working covertly. these actions, if it is true, could put american intelligence officers in very grave danger. jennifer griffin is joining me live from the pentagon. i am trying to wrap myself around this, to figure out what it would do this. what is the mode?
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>> if you talk to lawyers and defense attorneys assigned to the 9/11 code-conspirators, they say they are trying to defend these guys and they are building a case, and part of it is that the cia used harsh interrogation techniques, and even torture. in the process of building the case, they may have stepped over the line, and that is what this investigation is about. by showing these 9/11 co- conspirators down in gitmo pictures operatives, some covert, some overt, by showing those pictures, did they break a law, and did they go too far? the aclu says they did not, that they were trying to defend their clients. but others we spoke to are very concerned that this did put the cia operatives lives at risk and it also may have broken federal laws.
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what we are also learning in the last few minutes is that one of the pictures -- there are about 45 shown to people -- one of the pictures is of a retired cia officer who is -- his identity was revealed by the "new york times" a year agoh@a year ago, e chagrin of the cia. they tried to block the report. he had been a key interior, and it is our understanding that one of those photographs was of him, a photo taken outside his house in northern virginia. agency officials are saying that this could have put his life and other lives at risk. jamie: we will follow this story for viewers, to say the
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least. keep us posted. trace: the call came to 911, a desperate mom with a and child who needed help immediately. that call could be hiding a horrifying truth. more on the tape, and why cops are now saying that the mother, who should have loved and protected her baby, is anything but a hero. not just some cute little gecko waffling on about this, 'n' that. gecko vo: i mean, i am easy on the eyes - but don't let that take away from how geico's always there for you. gecko vo: first rule of "hard work equals success." gecko vo: that's why geico is consistently rated excellent or better in terms of financial strength. gecko vo: second rule:
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trace: president obama praising afghans who stood up to the voting in this week's election despite a threat of violence against voters. troops have been providing security for those heading to the polls. in a metal box -- in the middle, information offered for ryan jenkins, wanted in the murder of a swimsuit model. authorities believe he fled in a boat launch in washington state and could now be in canada. and now, they are saying that the vaccine tamiflu should
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only be given to low-risk cases, saying others do not need the drug. the story you are about to hear is extraordinarily disturbing. it is a two-year-old boy named rene torres, who died in his home last week. we want you to listen to the 911 call that was just released. his mother is on the phone with the dispatcher. listen to her a motion -- he motion. -- inia emotion. emotion. trace: eventually, the
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dispatcher asked to speak someone else. she could not understand the mother. they got the paramedics, but the boy could not be saved. and cops are saying that her mother and boyfriend only called 911 after they bound the boy's arms and legs and left him tied up over night, only to find him unresponsive and not breathing. adults have admitted restraining him as a form of discipline. today, they are both in jail, both charged with murder. jamie: a horrible story. federal reserve chairman ben bernanke sees the beginning of the end of the financial crisis, he tells us. speaking in wyoming today, he said that the economic activity in the u.s. and around the world appears to be leveling out and
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that prospects for the return of growth in the near term look good. but he warns that difficult challenges still lie ahead. investors, liking what he had to say. take a look at the dowel. friday is usually tough, but it could be a new high for the year. up 133. we will take it. it is a far cry from march, when it fell 6300. let's take a look at a company that has suffered losses for three quarters. morgan stanley are bullish about the future because they have announced they began tyre -- are beginning to hire 300 new traders and analysts after three quarters of losses. so many lost jobs, financial jobs on wall street, and this is good news for them, but how is morgan stanley doing after suffering three different periods of laws? -- losses? >> you have goldman sachs making
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a ton of money, even in this environment. morgan stanley losing money for three quarters. they do not like looking at goldman and seeing the money be made. so they jump into action, with 400 new traders and salespeople. you just pointed out that the dow has gone up 50% since march. the price of oil has doubled in the past six months. that is trading activity that you want to jump into. they are not calling people like you and die. they are affecting their own companies' money. that is how and investments -- an investment bank makes money. and in this environment, it makes sense to hire these people. jealousy may pay off in the long run for morgan stanley.
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i do not know whether they have a shot or not at beating goldman, but they have to jump into action. you have not seen a market go up as much as this in decades. wall street wants to jump into the action and make money like everybody else, and morgan stanley is no different. jamie: and the other bit of news, j.p. morgan? >> j.p. morgan chase -- we had a legal watchdog join us, and he has been looking through paperwork. they gave $1 million to acorn. you have to ask, why would they do it? intimidation. you buy them off. you know they will come to your offices or homes of your executives and start demonstrating, saying you are racist. if you give them money, maybe they will go away. it is called intimidation and
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pay off. we know they gave $1 million, and we believe other banks did the same thing. it could be tens of millions of dollars going to a corner -- acorn for a pay off. jamie: maybe you opted into cash for clunkers. but picking at your new ride is the easy part. we are going to take a behind- the-scenes and see how hard it is on the dealers. because of one word,
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largest jump in 10 years. in the middle, les pa layul to rest today. in the bottom of box, just in from the hurricane center, hurricane bil-l graded two category two over the atlantic with maximum winds decreasing to 110 miles an hour. it is still pretty wicked, though. now they are bearing down on bermuda. trace: if you have not traded in your cocker forecast, you are running out of time. -- if you have not traded in your clunker cars for cash yet. this is control room nine. this is the teleprompter right here. this is how we get our information. it makes me sound great, like it is coming off the top of my head. we are all cheating. we have you covered with cash
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for clunkers with everything you need. log on to the web site and you can get all the information about when you configure car and, how much time you have, and how much money you can expect. the law says that when you turn your car and they must destroy it, but some people -- this is charlie -- that is a monster truck rally. they go smashed cars. have you seen that? most of the cars are being put in a big trash compactor of sorts. by the way, this man is the director. he is the one, the senior producer. scott gives directions, and allen says yes or no.
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the program, the transportation department started with 200 workers, right? they have bad now to add 1000 workers because the program was so popular. less than 8%, 145 million, at some -- $145 million, has yet been paid out. there is 500,000 in iou's owed by the government to dealers. let's go to james, up there on remote seven. there are lots of instances of paperwork behind this program. >> paperwork costs time and money and man hours to fill out and comply with regulations. my producer and cameraman and i went to the public and private
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sectors today to find evidence of how excessive paperwork is slowing things down, and evidence was not hard to find. cash for clunkers -- and amazingly successful program with tons of paperwork. we came to lindsay lexis in alexandria to check it out. this will be a lot of fun. come on. paperwork. >> this is a large stack of paper. >> yes, it is incredible what the government has done. >> greg is the general sales manager. >> this is the disposal certification. we had one rejected because the purchaser signed their name and did not like. >> is a tough business. >> executives say that each corker influx two dozen forms to fill out, and they are still waiting on $800,000 in returns from the federal government.
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>> let's go. i'm tired of waiting for you. >> here, in this barren wasteland, is where the vehicle goes to die. >> everything must go. every clocker has somebody's name on it, everyone falls in love sometimes. >> for small business owners, often the first stop is getting the first loan. they go to las vegas of paperwork, the small business administration. >> i'm going to get some donuts. what is this? 45 06-t. >> it is a document that
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borrowers a sign so a lender can request their tax return. >> in this game, i am the big boss who gets to sit behind the desk and you are the business owner, and i prepare forms for you. i would like them in 20 minutes. is that ok? >> absolutely. i had better get started. >> i should say so. >> good sports over there at the small business administration. we will have more of this tonight on "special report." trace: thank you, james. james is up on that screen, jamie is down in the newsroom, 13 floors down. we will come up for headlines at the bottom of the hour. jamie: as everyone can see, it takes a village. she converted from is long to christianity and says she fears for her life. we will take a closer look at the case of rifqa bary and
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for what it anticipates will be a busy hurricane season. president obama has been briefed multiple times and has great confidence in the officials tracking the storm. indications are that the white house is hoping the storm will veer away from the united states and head back to the atlantic. trace: in buena park, calif., following the reality tv star accused of killing his wife. >> police are working with canadian officials to try and find ryan jenkins, the former tv reality contentious than -- contest and accused in the murder of his wife, jasmine fiore. was found over the weekend, stuffed in a suitcase, put in a trash bin. people believed dead chickens is hiding in canada and they hope to bring him -- police believe that jenkins is hiding in canada and hope to extradite him.
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trace: blue dog democrats and health care. >> a democrat from this state is one of the ones responsible for the mets to get health care reform bill that sets in the house as a wait for a recess to end. he manages his time well. he has done town hall meetings and small groups, but usually outside of cameras. we have not seen flareups because he says they have not happen. trace: we are live in control room nine. brand new information at the bottom of the hour. jamie: right now we are less than an hour away from my highly anticipated court hearing that will take place in orlando. a judge with a difficult decision. should he send an ohio run away
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to ohio or let her stay in florida. rifqa bary left for florida, fearing that her father would kill her for converting to christianity. but her family claim she has no reason to feel threatened and cops say there is no evidence she does. what options does the judge have? we have our legal panel here today. thank you. good to see both of you. because you are in florida, this is a tough call for the judge. in my legal opinion, there are other options other than letting her stay. she could get a restraining order in ohio. child protective services could keep an eye on her. but this judge has to decide if there is a legal basis to let her stay in florida, a state she had no connection to? >> obviously not, because
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without parental consent in florida, it is illegal to harbor a runaway teenager in your home. the judge is going to take a look at whether she should be returned to her parents or to another agency in ohio for safekeeping. jamie: she was taken in and harvard. -- and harvard -- harbored. listen to the rev. and tell me what you think legally the court will do. >> you could see the fear and terror in her in court on monday. tears in her eyes, frightened. terror all over her. jamie: the global revolution church was who she turns to on her way to florida, where she is now.
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what do you think they will do? >> i do not think whether he is harboring a minor is the issue. the issue is whether this kid is in danger. florida and ohio need to decide which state needs to hear this, and it is their case. but they can an ounce temporary jurisdiction in the event of an emergency. they need to make sure she is safe, and if she is in the care and foster parents in florida, that is fine, but a florida judge will not be the ultimate decision maker. he wants to make sure that if she gets sent to ohio, she will be safe. jamie: the judge has to decide if she is in danger, ohio police say there is no evidence of threats, and some reports say
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she told people she was afraid of her father. how does the judge predict the court getting off at this point now that action has been brought in florida? >> the ohio corps will have to determine this, because this is her home state, where she left. so they need to take it off, and leave her in the custody of the agency in florida and have transferred up to ohio with the agency there, letting the judge determined whether or not she should go back to the parents or not. jamie: someone will be appointed to represent her, but what about her parents? can they plead to let her come home, and is that an open and
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shut argument? >> the attorney is afforded to the court, and in this case, the attorney has already indicated parents have not given consent for the guards to be in the state of florida. they want her returned. jamie: we expect the court to hear in the next hour. thank you to both of you. trace: remember the nightmare flight we heard about, 47 people trapped overnight, mothers running out of food and diapers for their kids, toilets overflowing? out of my purse and chewed it. my doctor said the bayer aspirin saved my life. please talk to your doctor about aspirin and your heart.
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ray lahood says a big screw up on an airport tarmac happened. these passengers were stuck in rochester, minnesota. they had to wait six hours before being let into the terminal. staffers from the airline would not budge. they said that passengers could be led into a separate area. staff trace: during numbers. american opinions of the public option continuing to fall. a 10% drop in support since june. 13% of people are against the idea. we have a columnist at forbes,
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and a former communications director to joe lieberman. he is the author of a "bamboozled." blue dog democrats are saying, you know, maybe it is time to scrap this and start over. >> here is what has to happen to save obama, because if not, you will see another hillary clinton and 1993. the problem is, a party divided cannot stand. in tupelo, mississippi, travis childress would not show up to explain to constituents what is going on with the bill. they did do it with virtual health care. sheila jackson has had problems, arlen specter has had problems. what has to be done is blue dog democrats and republicans are coming together. if not, they have to go for some
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kind of health care reform. trace: pelosi says is a must. as the president being pinned to the wall of by his own party? >> they lost this debate when the seven brands -- when they subcontracted to congress. they cannot recover. they produced a bill that obama campaigned on, saying the fundamental goal was to cut costs. congress produced a bill that increases costs. that lost credibility for the administration. that was trace: a pivotal moment -- trace: that was a pivotal moment. you see the top? that is where it was. now it keeps going down and down, down to 46%.
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the more the president is pushing for this, the more it loses steam. it really is right now in critical condition. >> i think it is sad that we blamed congress and the budget office. we live in a democracy, and it has worked before. the bottom line is, your party has not had a cohesive message. not that i give strategist's advice, but all of your members of congress should of got out and explain to to constituents what the deal was. trace: in a lot of email we get, there is confusion about what is going on. they are concerned and confused. this is from new hampshire, about medicare. listen. >> you do not want to see more government involvement. i understand the argument. the only thing i would point out
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is that medicare is a government program. it works really well for our seniors and have protected people. trace: so medicare works. but the next day, he said this. >> our deficit will continue to grow because medicare and medicaid are on an unsustainable path. medicare is slated to go into the red in about eight years to 10 years. i do not know if people are aware of that. trace: is working and is broken. they are giving conflicting messages. either it is essential or is not, it is working or is not. >> i do not disagree with angela, i just think she is putting a weird spin on it. congress has five plants, and there is of vast confusion.
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the lowest common denominator defines the debate. obama needs to put out his own plan and explain to people how it will work. trace: 0 lot of people are saying, you know what, republicans are not going up to the bar. they are saying, you know what, if we kill this, it helps our party. what we care about is defeating this legislation. >> republicans are for health care reform. i am out there listening to people who have lost their jobs. they do not understand what the president is promoting, and you are right. the republicans -- i do not spin. i tell it how is. >> the party is divided. there is a vacuum, and the president needs to fill it. the president needs to leave here. >> at the end of the day, these
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republicans are being more reactive instead of proactive. but nancy pelosi is a speaker. if we cannot get out there and put ideas in front of the people, what can we do? trace: thank you very much to both of you. jamie: remember yesterday, gregg was trying to meet the staff so they would take care of him? they just want you to do the job. gregg: we are giving an eye on the court hearing in florida about the girl from ohio seeking refuge. she will be a victim of so- called honor killings. you and i did a lot of reporting about that in a documentary. we should have a hearing on that that we will debate with a couple of lawyers. we will also talked to dr. keith ablow about this horrific case, the model whose body was stuffed in a trunk and her husband of large now wanted for murder.
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greece and new details. he is being called a monster. -- grissom of new details. -- gruesome new details. jamie: we will stick around. thank you. trace: it is the middle of the afternoon and you want to shut your eyes. but should you give in to the urge to nap? amazing science behind a little shy we would like to share with you. when you have a drug or alcohol problem,
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jamie: you know that feeling in the middle of the afternoon? drowsiness takes over, and you with love and nap -- would love a nap. are you doing your body in a good taking it? i wish that fit into my lifestyle. am i hurting myself by not taking naps? >> it depends on whether or not you are sleep deprived. if you're not sleep deprived, two things can happen. you can reduce your heart disease risk by 34%. number two, you enhance your memory. people who perform this sequence on the computer with their non dominant hand did it first thing in the morning, then later in the afternoon, with no difference in their score. but in the morning, their scores went up between 20% and 30%. so your memory can be enhanced
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with a long sleep for a short nap. but if you are sleep deprived, research shows that any type of nappe is going to get in the way of what is called your circadian rhythm, your cycle. so if you have difficulty sleeping, and 74% of the american population reports that, and 19% have chronic deprivation. i want you to be careful. develop a strict sleep strategy. go to bed and get up within the same 30 minutes every day. optimize your energy level and hormones affecting body weight. we keep talking about the health care crisis. if you look at obesity numbers, they absolutely track along with sleep deprivation, because we're sleeping an hour and half less every night and we did 30 years ago. so you want to look at that. for a lot of pet owners, get snoopy out of the bed.
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53% of people with sleep problems have pets in the bed. definitely make sure that is not a situation you are dealing with. jamie: thank you so much. good to know. >> i take naps, so do it if you have to. trace: she called a life or death decision about to be made in florida. we told about the girl who converted to christianity and ran away from home, fearing her father would kill her. a court is about to rule. it has more cargo space than pilot, including the most space behind the third row. and traverse beats honda on highway gas mileage too. more fuel efficient and 25% more room. maybe traverse can carry that stuff too.
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jamie: thank you to all of you for watching. it has been a pleasure to be here. trace: "studio b"star to right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- gregg: we are awaiting a hearing to begin in a controversial case involving a young girl, parental rights, and religious freedom. this is rifqa bary, 17 years old, recently converted to christianity. she says when her muslim family found out, her father threatened to kill her. so she fled to florida, and is staying with a family she
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