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the amount of the hydrogen sulfide, which is responsible for dilating the arteries and increasing blood flow from the heart. eric, remember. >> eric: should we eat garlic raw? >> raw or crushed but not cooked and not processed. >> eric: well, doc, because you said that -- >> jamie: because he's so considerate. thank goodness. >> eric: thank you, doctor. this guy has so much great information every sunday. he answers your e-mails and actually reads them. if you have a medical question, send it to dr. -- >> up to june 4 in my answers. >> eric: he knows. he sits at home and reads them. foxnews.com is the address. that's it for dr. can rosenfield. thank you. >> jamie: see you next week, doctor. >> thank you. >> you're getting ready to
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sign a check on the backs of american people without checking the bank account and i'm afraid you're going to bounce another check. >> i, as a 20-year-old person, will have to deal with this for the rest of my life. and i will have to pay for this. >> jamie: well, emotions are definitely in high gear. all across the united states, from maine to california, sounds of anger and frustration. people are worried about the future of their healthcare. and they're filling the town hall meetings all across our nation. congressional lawmakers certainly getting an'reful from people over the massive plan to reform our nation healthcare system. good morning, everyone. great to have you with us. i'm jamie colby. >> eric: i'm eric shawn. lawmakers turning up the heat on the debate on the sunday talk show circuit. look at wisconsin congressman paul lion who was on "fox news sunday" talking about why we're seeing such outrage at the town hall meetings. >> it seems that the rhetoric that was used to sell this plan is completely
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disconnected and contrary to the substance of the plan. when you put this in context of what has happened this year, bank bail-out, government take-over of auto companies, massive borrowing and deficit and now a huge takeover of the healthcare sector, making the fiscal situation worse, not better. that's not my words, but according to the congressional budget office, that has people up arms and has people coming to the town hall meetings worried about the legislation rushed through congress. >> eric: for the latest on healthcare reform, go to caroline shively in the washington bureau. caroline, there is a new call now we hear this morning to drop the government run health insurance plan known as the public option. where is it coming from this time? >> senator john mccain, eric. he tells "this week" that president obama will have to drop proposals on it if he wants to reach compromise on healthcare reform. that's why many americans are losing confidence in the president. mccain wants president obama to sit down with republicans and democrats in congress and
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make clear what he wants in the bill. so far the president has only given guidelines. this has been a controversial piece of the bill. three committees on the house side passed a public option. on the senate side, they're still considering co-op in the senate finance committee. >> eric: they also on "fox news sunday" talked about a booklet called your lilife, your choice, for veterans on the veterans affairs website. it sounds controversial. what is that? >> an end-of-life planning document elderly veterans can use to plan healthcare choices but it has a look at different health scenarios you can check off how you feel about them. you can write make it acceptable, worth living or not worth living. one is i can walk but get around in wheelchair. another is i live in a nursing home. another is i'm a severe financial burden on my family and another is i can't shake the blues. some critics say it could guilt elderly americans to
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end their life earlier than they would. >> eric: it is a healthcare debate that will continue. nothing expected until the middle of september in washington. caroline shively, thank you for the update. >> jamie: supporters of healthcare reform are looking to massachusetts and really how could you not? is it an example of overhaul of the healthcare system. they passed a landmark law in 2006 mandating that everyone have health insurance. today we're getting a new report that the insurance premium is the highest in the country. it's by commonwealth fund, non-profit organization, showing that the average family premium for plans offered by employers was 13,788. that's 40% higher than in 2003. on a national level, premiums rose an average of 33%. and the group is saying that without major cost reform soon, the average family will be shelling out more than $26,000 a year by 2020. >> eric: getting new video. it seems almost every single
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day of the town hall meetings and there is a new one of explosive meeting that happened in washington state. looking at youtube video. reportedly showing a town hall meeting that was held by congressman bill baird. this happened on tuesday. the night belonged to a veteran of the u.s. marines. his name was david. his questions on healthcare reform brought down the house and now becoming a youtube sensati sensation. listen to a sample of what the veteran said. >> you're going to let us keep our health insurance. well, thank you. it's not your right to decide whether or not i keep my current plan or not. it's my decision. >> eric: authorities estimate 2800 people were attending that event in washington state. >> jamie: right before president obama left for his ten-day vacation that he's on right now, the white house admitting it was $2 trillion off the earlier deficit projections. instead of $7 trillion of red ink, try $9 trillion over the next ten years.
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taking a look at the new projections adding to fears, the hefty price tag for any healthcare reform could bankrupt washington. will it? joining us now is john tammy, editor of realclearmarket.com. john, should we be surprised by all of this? >> we shouldn't be surprised at all. when we look at when they made projections they were based on rosy economic scenarios no one realistically thought would come to pass. the economy is much slower than they thought. the number was going to be a lot higher. >> jamie: how accurate is the congressional budget office in their predictionpredictions impact on the deficit from the healthcare reform options that are on the table? >> i think it's hard for them to be terribly accurate. they say that the deficit will be higher and i believe that's true. but as we know with washington, deficit projections are always lower than they end up being, because spending on all manner of things go higher.
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this should concern us. because the government that cannot get deficit projections right is going to try to oversee the infinite decisions that occur in the healthcare industry, not to mention it's trying to predict weather patterns ahead 50 to 100 years. it's hard to do. >> jamie: let me add one more element to that. the economy, which doesn't seem to be recovering as it had been predicted to at same pace. what impact could it have on the healthcare costs of any reform plan as we move down the road? >> if the economy doesn't recover it will have a big impact on it, because more and more people will need to take the government option of free healthcare. it will cost more. as we know, the obama administration and the administrations generally predict the low level of unemployment. we don't know that that is going to happen. >> jamie: in a somewhat rare interview last week, interview with radio talk show host televised from the white house on home turf for the president he said any healthcare reform plan would
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be deficit neutral. how can he make that statement? >> it's impossible. it's really nice political theater to say as the major buyer of healthcare they'll be able to bring costs down. look at historically, look at anytime governments regardless republican or democrat, said we'll lower deficit spending by spending more money, it's laughable. >> jamie: but the president says there are a lot of myths out there. that people, the american people are being misled. even though in polls it's showing that the american people less and less want healthcare reform. they like what they have, for the people who have it. so at this point, with the predictions of the impact on the deficit, we heard a young man who said i'm in my 20s. i'm going have to live with this way into my adulthood. what needs to happen when everybody comes back to washington after this congressional recess? is there any possibility that there is a plan that could be deficit neutral that will take care of the people who
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don't have health coverage? >> there is a possibility that such a plan exists but i don't think it's going to come out of washington, at least right now. for it to be deficit neutral, it would have to be a scenario whereby we stop relying on productive to fund the unproductive. that's what washington wants to do. it wants to create a scenario whereby you don't have to have health insurance, but if you get sick, you can go get it. that's not insurance. it's welfare and it's definitely going to cost more money. the only way to fix this is have what we have now. people who are sick can always get healthcare. let's not ruin the system altogether to help the small sliver of people that go without. >> jamie: john ttamny, great to talk to you. >> eric: one of the most respected analyst in the country is sharing election forecast. charlie cook warning they could face huge losses in the mid-term elections next year. cook initially estimated the democrats could lose between six and 12 seats or so.
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but now he says those numbers may underestimate what they actually could lose. cook is forecasting a possible loss of up to 20 seats. this while the president poll rating approval number has hit an all-time low for him. at 51%. that's why cook has revised his outlook of the seats that he thinks the democrats could lose in the mid-term elections next year. >> jamie: meanwhile, legislators in massachusetts, well, they're in a bit of a tough spot now. after they got this request from the ailing senator ted kennedy, he is suffering from a brain tumor. he wants the state law changed so that in the event of his death, the governor can quickly name a replacement, instead of waiting for a special election. here is the thing. it turns out that there was such a law just a few years ago when john kerry was a massachusetts senator. mitt romney was the state's republican governor. democrats worried if kerry won the 2004 presidential election his replacement
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would be picked by the republican romney. with pressure from ted kennedy, the law was changed. now kennedy is asking the law be changed back so democratic governor patrick can appoint a replacement for him. some democrats find it difficult to explain changing that law again. >> eric: new fall-out from the white house admission it hired a government contractor to send out the controversial e-mails, urging support for the president's healthcare plan. the white house confirms it used a minnesota based company called govdelivery.com. gov delivery sends out 140 million e-mails and text messages a month for the state, federal and local governments. critics this morning saying the white house crossed the line by using a government contractor for what they say was essentially a political e-mail from top obama aide david axelrod. all apparently paid for by taxpayers. republican congressman
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thaddeus mccotter of michigan joins us now, and also the chairman of the house republican policy committee. congressman mccotter in detroit. good morning. good to see you this sunday morning. >> good to see you, eric. >> eric: what is so wrong with the white house, do you think, sendsing out an e-mail, using a private company that sends these out for business by sending this axelrod e-mail out? >> well, eric, i think it again becomes part of a disturbing pattern that we see on the part of the administration. the public clearly finds the radical healthcare proposal repugnant. the democratic members find it repugnant, that's why it's not passed. the white house in the zeal to pass something the public doesn't want using the power of presidency in so many ways, some political, that the crossing of the line can create danger for them. >> eric: gov delivery, based in minnesota, two 30-year-old guys run it. monday i talked to the president of the company and i asked him did his company send out the white house e-mails. he had no comment. finally the white house admits it did use the
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company. they send out millions, as i said. they have clients of at least 11 cabinet agencies. they also have the i.r.s. the f.b.i., the a. t.f., the director of national intelligence. they send out government information. why wouldn't this be government information and how do you tell what's government information versus what could be political propaganda? >> i think that's part of a fine line. we in the house have your own house administration committee, where we have to send things. the commission where we have to get that language approved. the white house is a separate, equal branch and does not have that. but this goes back to the fundamental problem, eric. you have people sending things out in the desire to try to convince the public to change their mind on a proposal they find to be against their best wishes within the healthcare system. to do this, the white house is trying to do everything it possibly can. and what happens is the type of prudent thought that goes into the e-mails, the caution that has to be shown using
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the power of the white house to put p provide this is overlooked and can be crossed. >> eric: white house says the gov delivery hired from january 1 to january 20 before the president took office. they also point out that republicans such as rick perry of texas and mitch daniels, governor of indiana, they use this firm, too. but you raise an interesting question. some asking, you know, why would a government contractor that does work for the other agencies be involved? how much money was involved? what taxpayer money was involved? some on capitol hill are asking these questions. what answers do you want from the white house and you think are appropriate for the american people? >> the answer is, number one, first about foremost in americans' minds, when will the administration stop pushing radical government run healthcare rationing scheme they don't want. >> eric: they wouldn't say it's radical. they say think think it makes sense. go ahead. >> first, the administration thinks it makes sense, but when you act in a dysfunctional matter,
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dysfunctional thinking tends to take hold. the reality with these e-mails, eric, is they have to show with all the options available to them, the president has been pursuing a backroom deal with pharma, to run ads all over the country, magically happening. special interest groups hitting republican members for being everything but american to try to push this bill through. with the president of the dnc calling on his movement and using e-mails to try to get them to come around to get the american people to change their mind. why did they need to use this means and could they have done it more circumspectally to ensure this did not occur can or raise questions? part of the problem they're running into is the original set-up of the white house website, the snitch site, where you can talk about this information, quote/unquote, you heard from third parties, was a lingering problem for them. a horrible atmosphere. the questions about everything they do regarding e-mails and other such information that they collected. >> eric: where does the white house go from here? they say it's just like
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putting a stamp on the envelope. member of congress get privileges to send out brochures about your accomplishments? what is the difference between that and this? >> the white house should put forward strict guidelines they will follow to show the stark difference between a political e-mail coming out of the taxpayer spent or legitimate information that's request by the american people or put forward by the white house. it's similar to what we have in the own franking commission in the house. >> eric: again, last monday, we asked the company for a comment. they would not confirm that they indeed work for the white house. the white house now over this weekend giving fox news that information. we've asked gov delivery for an interview and they said they don't talk about the clients. interestingly enough, the website mentions 11 cabinet agencies, but it does not list the executive office of the president, which happens to be the white house. congressman thaddeus mccotter, chairman of the house republican policy committee of michigan, thank you for joining us with the questions this morning. >> thanks, eric. >> jamie: we're still following a story that is developing this hour.
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ryan jenkins was a rising star on a vh1 reality show and his face may look familiar because it was seen on millions of tvs across the country. but since the grisly murder of his ex-wife, the reality star is nowhere to be found. now investigators are worried he'll be too difficult to track down. we'll show you why after the break. >> eric: have you heard about a new argument for airline passenger bill of rights. bow, do they need this! a plane full of passengers stuck on a runway in new york for five hours. why is the bill of rights for airline passengers still stalled in congress? >> jamie: plus, president obama doing what he can to answer the critics of healthcare reform. saying the opposition is just making phony claims. well, later this hour, the reason why more and more folks are becoming skeptical of the white house message. >> this is not a federal government issue. this is a people issue. the people need to reform
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>> jamie: a fox news alert on a bold prediction from senator chuck schumer, the "fox news sunday" guest this morning telling chris wallace that health reform will pass the senate this fall, complete with an option for government run insurance. >> i don't think he backed away at all. i talked to the president about this in the past few weeks and he believes strong in the public option to. he's worked hard to get a bipartisan bill, because that would be a better bill. be i believe at the end of
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the day we'll have a public option and we could get a public option that could be passed with the 60 democrat votes we had. where it competes with the insurance company was backed in the house by blue dog and more liberal democrats. >> jamie: we talked to chris wallace about this, but that was "meet the press." last week, democratic senator ken conrad said the senate didn't have enough votes to pass the public option. everything you need to know here on fox. >> thousands of people are fleeing from wildfire in athen athens greece. there is now a mandatory evacuation ordered for 10,000 homes there. dozens of houses have been burned to the ground. authorities evacuated two children hospitals, summer camp and senior citizen
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complex. 600 firefighters and soldiers are trying to contain the wildfires for three days now. the flames are threatening some of the ancient archaeological sites in athens. >> we are tracking the development in the search for reality tv star. he is accused of killing his former swimsuit model wife. and there are concerns that because he is a millionaire, because he has family in canada, because they may have helped him get away, and police are concerned about the ability to track him down. there is a connection to a stay they had together, the last time she was seen in san diego. take a look. >> u.s. marshals are keeping their focus on this man, ryan jenkins. they learned the reality tv star comes from after ffluent family with roots in canada. investigators thought they had jenkins pinned down friday. >> the individuals contacted at the airport in toronto. and after interviewing him,
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they determined that it was not mr. jenkins. >> investigators believe jenkins is responsible for killing his ex-wife and swimsuit model jasmine fiore. orange county detectives say fiore's body was found stuffed in a suitcase. it's believed the couple was last seen together staying here in del mar, a popular high-end hotel. while surveillance video of the hotel is not being released, detectives say they have no reason to believe the murder happened here. business in del mar is back to normal. laberge is booked up for the night. >> we walked through a few minutes ago, wedding shower, bridal showers are getting ready. swimming pool is crowded. hasn't affected anything. >> for some people the tragic news so close to home is too much to handle. >> it changes the tone of the city. now it's such a bad event that occurred.
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>> a rumor something may have happened here, the last place she was seen alive. i don't think it will change anything. but it just does wake everybody up that it doesn't matter where you go or how much money you spend. >> fugitive task force has organized a search for jenkins. u.s. marshals say he could be arm and dangerous. on top of that, jenkins criminal record is confirmed and includes 2007 assault charge for allegedly hitting fiore. now a $25,000 reward is posted for any information leading to his arrest. >> that was kasb heather ford reporting. and actually, fiore's body was found in buena park, california. eric? >> eric: jamie, he hugged a convicted terrorist, the lockerbie bomber when he arrived back in libya. should president obama meet with moammar gadhafi next month? guess what? gadhafi is coming to america. he's attending the big u.n. meeting in september. they say he will pitch his tent in new jersey. and the cause for the u.n. to do something this morning but
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he could live longer. raging wildfires threatening the capital of greece. incredible video coming into fox. people in the athens suburb are told to get out now. planes, helicopters and hundreds of firefighters are trying to push back the flames that burned 30,000 acres. and pope benedict making his first public appearance since having the cast remove from his broken right wrist. he joked in his weekly blessing that the wrist was freed but still a bit lazy. he managed to bless the faithful with his right hand. >> eric: double digit unemployment rates now in 15 states across the country. michigan tops the list. the unemployment rate is 15% of the population without a job. the good news, the numbers are a bit lower than the numbers in june. other states with high unemployment rates are rhode island, nevada, california, oregon. the lowest unemployment rate in the country belongs to the state of north dakota. >> jamie: the obama
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administration boasting the wildly popular cash for clunkers program has been a huge success. but there are brand new data out now that shows it helps foreign auto makers more than american ones. smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles like the toyota car row la are top -- corolla are top-sellers. buyers are trading in suv, like the ford, american company, explorer to to be scrapped. the reason is the program was geared around miles per gallon, not an incentive to buy most u.s. cars. congress poured $3 billion already in cash for clunkers. and the program ends without further funding tomorrow. >> hearing more and more about passengers left stranded on airplanes. even trapped on board, etch when the plane is already at the gate. travelers stuck on the tarmac for six hours. it happened again. paul bloom from our affiliate has the story. >> we were thinking of
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rushing the cockpit. >> john was only half kidding. >> hunger was starting to set in. >> after spending five hours aboard a plane on the tarmac at jfk, his patience and his sanity were tested. >> we talked about the most important thing in business is communication. well, there was a lack of communication on the airplane. >> flight 242 scheduled to department 11:00 a.m. eastern time. after an hour delay in boarding. >> we got on the plane at 12:15, 12:30. >> the 100 plus passengers found their seat and the plane backed away from the gate. misery about to begin. >> the captain gets on and talks about a potential storm in the area and we're going to sort of wait it out. and we waited it out and waited it out. you know, five-and-a-half hours later we fly, you know, we fly to minneapolis. >> the airline citing severe weather in the new york area and runway construction kept the plane grounded most of
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the afternoon. as you can see on the sun country website finally landed in minneapolis around 20 of 8:00 local time. the airline issued this statement, saying in part they regret the long delay at jfk and will issue all passengers on board a refund for the flight. >> sun country, i was loyal to sun country. >> for john, who says the coach passengers were still forced to buy food in the ordeal, the airlines gesture may be too little, too late. >> we're a family, family of five that travels all over the country. all over the world. sun country is a big part of our flight to mexico and so on and so forth. we'll think twice next time we travel. >> eric: isn't it time for congress to finally take action and pass bill of rights for the passengers? joining us on the phone is burton rubben, a special council for the website fliersright.com. burton, welcome. how do we stop passengers from being prisoners? >> there is only one way to
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do that. that is for congress to pass the faa reauthorization act which contains a three-hour mandatory deplaning option. >> eric: that means you can be stuck on a plane and they can keep you for up to three hours. >> yes. we are trying to set some limit but we don't want it to go more than that. >> how come it keeps happening. we had an express jet two weeks ago. those pour folks in there for six hours. >> the details vary slightly but the reason it keeps happening is because it's not illegal. as long as it's not illegal, the airlines and the flight operations are going to continue to allow this to happen. the only way to stop it is to get legislation passed. people don't get locked up in their bank when the bank closes at night because it's ill lee. this isn't illegal. so the airlines and the rest of the air traffic infrastructure don't take steps to prevent it. >> the f numbers are
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unbelievable. 200,000 passengers, 200,000 are stuck a year. it affects 3,000 flights. 3,000 flights. people stuck on airplanes for three hours or more. you say it's not illegal. wife don't why don't airlines just take everybody out and let them sit on the floor in the carpet in the waiting lounge until the weather clears and they get it sorted out? >> they will offer various technical reasons in individual cases. but the larger issue is because it's not illegal it is allowed to continue to happen. >> the airlines would say they're trying to do their best. in their defense. what do you do if the plane is backed up? >> if it's prohibited by law an answer would be found in every case. since it's possible to leave the people on the plane they get left on the plane. once you eliminate that possibility, you can be sure
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that there are different measures that are going to be found to get people off, getting buss to them or having a gate available for deplaning. but this is now a question for society to answer. the next stranding is not really the airline's fault anymore. it's the fault of congress if they don't pass the legislation. >> eric: finally your website fliersrights.com. >> dot-org. >> eric: oh, thank you. fliersrights.org. what do we do? i was sit oggen the floor of jfk six a few weeks ago for six hours. the plane was leaving at 8:00. then 8:45. at 8:45 it says 9:30. blah, blah, blah until after midnight we didn't leave. >> two things everybody needs to do. first, be supporting our organization. because we really have been doing this on our own.
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they need to join the organization and contribute and then be in touch with the senator and congress person. ask them, are you supporting mandatory deplaning in the faa reauthorization act? if not, find out why. it's a congress person's fault now, not so much the airlines. >> flyersrights.org is the website to put pressure on congress that burton rubben says is needed. thank you for joining us. happy flying. >> my pleasure. >> jamie: journalism lost three legendary figures in the last three weeks. guess which one of the three got the harshest treatment from the so-called main stream media? was it walter cronkite? don hewitt? or noted conservative columnist bob novak? you don't get a prize for this one, but you want to stay tuned. a retired u.s. marine. listen. >> i have kept my oath. do you ever intend to keep yours? [ applause ] >> jamie: well, that retired marine joining the fight over
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your kids back off to school. a convicted sex offender who started a service to help other sex offenders find a place to live. could it be your neighborhood? all that and more coming up live in 20 minutes. >> jamie: who exactly is telling you the truth about healthcare reform? >> if you listen to the president and the republican critics you think they're talking about two radically different plans. >> under the reform we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your private health insurance plan, you can keep your plan. period. >> if you read the bill, that just isn't so. for starters they have to meet a new definition of coverage, one that your current plan might not match even if you like it. >> jamie: joining me now to talk about who is telling the american public true story on the healthcare reform issue,
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former white house advisor gary endread, who served under legislative affairs for the first president bush. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> it's great to have you, because we're trying to inform the american public they're more interested than they've ever been in the particular issue. healthcare reform. we get two sides of the story. we played the sound bites. they're interesting. do you think the white house, president obama specifically, allowed critics to take control of the message he's trying to get out? >> well, i think what has happened, jamie, is a very common mistake that many white houses make. that is the president took this debate to a high level. he took it public so to speak in a very, in a very big way. if you go back to june or so
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when they did the primetime evening program with charl char gibson at abc, the poll numbers began to fall at that point in time. this isn't just a criticism of president obama, many have fallen in the same trap of thinking they can be more persuasive than they really can be. what happens when white house goes public are three things. number one, their own supporters tend to become the most positive. it's like preaching to the choir. there is countermobilization on the other side where people who might not be attuned to the president get active and opposed. that's what we've seen this summer. there is a third group of people in the middle, the independent voters, people maybe who aren't paying that much attention. once they see the decibel
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level raised like it has this summer by the white house, they get worried. >> they are. >> particularly in an issue like healthcare. >> jamie: they are, gary. the "washington post" poll on friday showed people are more and more against any reform, the independents were really the most vocal about the fact they were concerned and didn't like what they were hearing. first it was healthcare reform and then suddenly it was healthcare insurance reform from the president, his message. i did my research and found of the profits, one cent of every healthcare dollar is spent for health insurance company. they were number 35 in the most profitability industry. normal suit call was number three. is that effective or ineffective switch in term of the method, switching the blame for insurance companies. >> i think what happened is you saw the white house move from a moral imperative earlier in the year, the idea that everybody needs to be insured, to an economic
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impertive that we have to reduce costs. not a lot of that is working for them. the reducing cost argument would be a good one. then they switched to political imperative this summer attacking the insurance industry. i don't think that's working either. red aurbach, the famous coach for the celtics used to say it's not what you say but what people hear. >> jamie: and the more people learn. the more they learn the more they realize perhaps there is more to that shift. insurance companies held a meeting in washington and said they'd be willing to drop preexisting conditions if more people had insurance because they could spread the cost around. one final question, bipartisan is very important on this issue particularly, something the president campaigned on. in this case there is a discussion of nuclear option that they may tap the
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healthcare plan they want without republican support. is there any chance to get back to bipartisanship on the healthcare reform issue? >> it will be hard to put the genie back in the bottle. the president should have started this process, the same way that president bush did when he did "no child left behind." that is he brought in the democratic and republican leaders to the white house in january and said it's too big and too important to do it any other way than bipartisan fashion. they locked arms and stuck to it for a full year. if this is going to make it through and not become even more controversial, the president has to go back and try to and breathe bipartisanship in the process. >> jamie: great to meet you. thank you. >> eric: he's a reality tv star and she is a noted swimsuit model. now, she is dead. he's the prime suspect.
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but despite their fame, this guy may go beyond the long arm of the law. we'll show you why just ahead. >> jamie: plus, the government gearing up for unprecedented vaccination campaign. they will try to stop the spread of h1n1 in the united states. there are health concerns, though, with the vaccine and cost concerns, too. the full story after the break. all the questions answered anytime. go to foxnews.com. put in the keyword h1n1 and you will find everything you need to know. constantly updated. (announcer) your doctor knows
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it's being called the largest mass vaccination program in history. the government is putting vaccinations for h1n1 virus on a fast track. washington hoping to try and protect almost half of all americans. the effort is on a scale not seen since the fight against polio and smallpox. but time may be short. public health officials warning that swine flu will come back raging in the fall. laura ingle has more. she is in the newsroom. >> only a third of the vaccine they had been expecting since october is likely to arrive by then and the potential for new wave of infections is expected as the school season approaches. there has been debate in the federal government on how to proceed in the campaign to get americans to be vaccinated for the h1n1 virus. the vaccine now may not be effective for everyone. then the money issue, cost
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involve with massive campaign to get half of americans vaccinated in months could go through the roof. close to $2 billion has been spent so far to buy up to 195 million doses of vaccine. one of the main fears in this is the h1n1 virus which first popped up in u.s., mexico and april might change and spread, which would make the vaccination useless. >> the virus may mutate and the vaccine they are making for delivery in april may not even work against the mutated swine flu. the main thing to remember is that it's a relatively benign infection for most people. >> okay. there is also some other good news. centers for disease control can said that the h1n1 flu strain doesn't appear to be mutating as it makes its way through the southern hemisphere. clinical trials continue, and the health officials say there have been no safety concerns yet in the test runs of the vaccine being made.
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the vaccinations will be v voluntary to put together the campaign to get the word out people should get the shot and a regular flu shot. messages are expected to be heard and seen in tv ads, switter, video podcast and youtube as well. cdc getting hip. >> jamie: if you put in the keyword "h1n1" you get a lot of great information. thank you. >> thanks. >> eric: you know we've seen the passing of three great journalists just in the past few weeks. but which one has seen slanted coverage of his accomplishments in the media? liz trotta in three minutes. úgsw [ female announcer ] olay challenged not just one dermatologist
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>> eric: in the last month, america lost three giants of journalism. walter cronkite, don hewitt, the founder of "60 minutes," and washington columnist robert novak. fox news contributor liz trotta says only one of them has been trashed by the so-called main stream media. liz, as usual, joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. how are you? >> face it, he did relish and known as the prince of darkness. >> well, he loved that title, you know, which was also the title of his memoir. but he famously said in that memoir "always love your country, but never trust your government." that was really the essence of robert novak. that's why it changed me and others, too, to see the hardcore liberals really
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giving him the shaft after his death when he can't fight back and chew them up and spit them out. it really is quite shocking. but let's start first with the white house and the robert gibbs, the spokesman for the obama administration. and he actually released a statement saying, "mr. novak was somebody who wrote for one of the local chicago papers." i think no matter how you feel personally about his political leanings, i think the president would agree with many that have said they had respect for his reporting and for his ability and his opinion. even if they didn't agree with him." i think that's probably a good lesson for all of us. either in auguaugust, or town hall meetings or as we move forward on issues like healthcare or anything else." is this a colossal failure of good taste? this swarmy, horrible statement that refers to him as a local reporter and has
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to drag healthcare into it, in a statement about a very famous columnist who has been around for more than half a century? this is what you say after he dies? the white house is just tone deaf. mr. gibbs ought to get, really ought to take lessons in courtesy. >> eric: i imagine novak's death is a teaching lesson. >> it's a terrible dig. this is a man whose column appeared in 300 papers. one of the most famous. hard charging old fashioned reporter who knew how to play hard ball. he knew how to seek access. then you have people like howard kurtz from the media critics of the "washington post" saying things like well, he tended to go easy on the sources he agreed with and then after, you know, beating up in a sort of subterranean way on novak he goes into this ecstasy about
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don hewitt of "60 minutes." well, you know, i would put my money on novak any day of the week against don hewitt. that's beside the point. let's not speak ill of the dead, no matter what your politics. >> eric: you can be critical of them, i think. i think you can be critical of his record and his work if you want to be. david broder, one of the most esteemed columnist, political columnist in the country, in the "washington post," called novak one of the best political reporters of all time and said the prince of darkness was a self-parody. he is getting kudos. >> the prince of darkness label, which i think is wonderful, of course, and apparently thought up by an old news week reporter some years ago. that's what his image was and he cultivated it. the younger media crowd, they just can't -- which is a rather afleet group as a whole, they can't take what the tradition of hard-charging reporter was.
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