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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jon: before the very first time, reaction from gordon brown to the reception that libya gave the lockerbie bombing suspect. prime minister browne says he is both angry and repulsed, but said the decision was up to the scots. the scots have faced harsh criticism in releasing megrahi, a who was dying of cancer. the bombing killed 270 people, and he only served eight years in prison. much more on this developing story in a live report in just a couple of minutes. in the nation's capital, a major battle is opening old wounds.
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eric holder appointed a special prosecutor to investigate cia- detained individuals. dick cheney is attacking the decision, saying that documents released yesterday demonstrate the cia's interrogation tactics provided actionable intelligence which save lives and prevented terrorist attacks. he said, the people involved deserve our gratitude. they do not deserve to be the target of political investigation or prosecution. the obama administration wants to open this investigation. take a look at what the cia agents did, and why. why are they doing so? >> reopen is a more accurate term, because the bush administration had lawyers go over the cases and concluded in most cases they were not worth prosecuting. so we are going over old ground
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here. you could come up with a lot of reasons why we are doing it. it satisfies the left, or it was supposed to. judging from some of the reaction, i think the left is not satisfied. they are a little upset that the investigation is narrowly focused instead of broad and open ended, like some of these special prosecutors have had. ultimately, when you appoint a special prosecutor, they tend to not be focused in a narrow direction. i remember bill clinton was deliberating over whether to appoint a special counsel to satisfy the critics of white water, and his wife council and to not a 0.1. his counsel said, it did not do this. and bill clinton said, you know, this will satisfy the critics. let me get this behind us.
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so it ended up in his impeachment. these things can bite you. jon: the "washington post" suggests that it is all about, i guess, trying to embarrass the bush administration. >> president obama tends to go there, it tends to say, well, let's talk about the bush administration. but some critics say it is a way to roll back the power of our intelligence community, and people are already making comparisons to the church committee days when there was not a whole lot of salt on the cia and other agencies. i think some of the cia today feel that way. we had michael hayden yesterday
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saying what this decision does is that it teaches timidity, it teaches the cia agents who are really patriots, putting their lives on their lines, just like marines and sailors, saying maybe they should not go the extra mile to do the job done. jon: we will have more. we will also have reaction from former un ambassador john bolton. he will be with us. brings us to our foxnews.com question of the day. should the justice department reopened prosecute cases of mistreatment of terror suspects by cia interrogators? lots of your weighing in. about 6% if you say yes. thank you for % so far sang no -- 94% so far sang no.
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-- saying no. jane: fresh polls today show that harry reid could be voted out of office next year. he is now trailing two republican challengers in his home state of nevada. this conjures up memories of tom daschle, ousted in 2004. shannon has been looking closely through the polls. how concerned should harry reid be? >> he is in danger of repeating history. in 2004, tom daschle was voted out, a top senate democrat at the time. voters decided to go with a conservative, very different than tom daschle. that was the first time in 50 years that the top democrats have lost his reelection. so now we're looking at harry reid, the majority leader, and he is going to meet the same fate, something he does not
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want, and something the democrats do not want in 2010, either. when you look at the potential head-to-head matchups, first against the son of a famous nfl coach, reid goes down 11% against danny tarkanian. he is down to sue loud and by 5%. both of them could beat him convincingly if there were voting today. jane: what kind of hurdles does he have to overcome? >> things are tough and nevada. there is double digit unemployment and things that our concerns to people in the state. there's also the sense he is going to democrat the plea campaign as a whole, tied to the president's agenda. the fact he is not focusing on his home state, pundits say that
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is one lesson he needs to take from tom daschle if he wants to hold on to his own voters. jon: we return to breaking news out of london, where golden -- gordon brown talked about the bomber's release and a welcome home he received. browne said he was repulsed by the ceremonies for convicted terrorist megrahi, the welcome he made when he was returned to libya. >> the bottom line is, though there has been widespread anger and repulse and about the celebration that greeted the terrorist's return, it was the united kingdom, specifically scotland, that released him back to libya. gordon brown has been under pressure to break his silence about the matter because so many
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people on both sides of the pond have been appalled by the fact that the only convict from the pan am 103 bombing, having only served eight years of a life sentence, has been allowed to return home to die with his family. he has terminal cancer. gordon brown today said he was angry and repulsed that megrahi had been greeted at home, but he said his first thoughts and feelings are with the families and victims of pan am 103, and he wants to fight terror. >> when i met colonel khadafy over the summer, i made it clear that we had to decide megrahi's future. it was a matter legislated by the parliament, not us.
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it was a measure over which we cannot interfere and have no control over. >> some feel that everyone is passing the buck on the issue. there has been insinuation that may be the release had something to do with the u.k. wanting to be involved in lucrative oil and gas deals, but that has been flatly denied. the storm in scotland continues to gather pace. of course, parliament came back early from its recess yesterday to talk about this. but now, many scots feel quite ashamed about all of this. they are talking about having a vote of no-confidence, possibly next week, on the decision of the justice secretary to send megrahi back to libya. jane: breaking news overseas. reports of the huge explosion rocking kaandahar.
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it may have been near the offices of the city intelligence services. this happens as election results are starting to come in. right now, it is to close at to call. karzai has a slender lead over his challenger, about 31 to 41%. we are streaming live from kabul as we wait to hear more about kandahar. when will we know when the winner is decided? >> the election commission was initially supposed to announce results saturday with the final results due september 3. however, the town has been slow for a number of reasons. there was a massive explosion, and some places have not managed to get their ballot boxes in.
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the commission says that they will have the final results by september 3. however, some observers think it could be several weeks before get a definitive answer. jane: we are continuing to get new details on the explosion. jon: a scary accident on the tgrigg;s -- throgg's neck bridge. >> you see a crane on the live pictures here from our fox affiliate. it has collided with some sort of other mechanisms that were working, a payload on the bridge. there has been a lot of activity at the center of your screen. we do not know for a fact that a rescue is happening, but we do
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know that there has been one injury. they are working very quickly to do something. again, we have not been able to confirm if that is our rescue going on. a construction worker has fallen away on the bridge, and this will give you a sense of how many people have gone for this. there could be a rescue going on. i will keep my eyes on this and get back to you as quickly as possible. jane: a top veterans groups says that hundreds of that's got a mail -- veterans got mail from the va st. had a deadly neurological disease.
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>> have you heard about these numbers? the congressional budget office is out with brand new deficit numbers. it seems like there has been a reversal of sorts. the numbers are staggering. explain what's happened. >> the commission is an independent office putting forward new numbers for the economy. over the next 10 years, they say it will total seven trillion dollars. they say it will go up much higher, 29 trillion -- to nine trillion dollars. why is this happening, and why are we seeing such differences?
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from the white house's point of view, the reason we're seeing the deficit go up so much is simply because the economy is worse than they thought, unemployment is higher. for a lot of reasons, there's less money coming in, more going out. unemployment is a great way to look at this. there are less payments going in on income tax and jobless benefits, said that is the reason you start to see such a difference. on the budget deficit, you face a different forecast. no one knows what the crisis cost us. that becomes a difficult cycle to break out of.
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we could see a difference between seven trillion dollars and nine trillion dollars in the next 10 years, a big difference. we thought that the deadline would be noon today to file all of those reports and get different rebates, but the government has extended that deadline to 8:00 p.m. this evening. so there is little extra time to get the paperwork in. jon: back to our top story, the investigation into how the cia interrogated terror suspects. vice president cheney defended tactics, saying that they save lives and led to capture some of al qaeda members, preventing future terror attacks. the obama administration ms. -- is not only pending the investigation but is also planning to take over interrogation of high-value
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suspects itself. what do you make of that? >> i think the idea that the nsc will directly supervise interrogations' is just fanciful. the fang -- point is, the should be left with experts, not the people on the staff with no background. and the risk of a leak coming out is yet another concern. going back to the documents yesterday, the continued declassification of reports and documents makes it impossible to have a clandestine intelligence service. if you do not want an intelligence service, say so. but the idea you can have a secret intelligence capability and talk about it in public every day is obviously contradictory. we are causing damage to our capabilities that will last for years, if not decades.
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jon: people say it is an open society, and the more information, the better. >> there is no excuse to cover abuses and criminal activity. but you cannot have a covert capability, and if somebody thinks that there are things going on that are unacceptable, there are ways to deal with that and keep the program classified. you are essentially getting our capability to do things in secret. jon: this has been the deadliest year in afghanistan since the year began in 2005. are you an optimist or a pessimist about that war?
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jon: breaking news out of new york city. >> you hate to see these accidents. this one is on throgg's neck bridge, and they just put a tarp over the victim. if they do not pull out of the shot, we have to pull away from it. there was either a construction worker who fell or got pinned under crane. that is what is being reported. we do know at least one person was injured, and we did see them
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pull someone out and physically put them on a backboard. the helicopter camera is pulling away from that scene. but they put a sheet or tarp over that person to pull away from that. there is an equipment construction seen their causing major backup in the new york area. that was the scene coming together. possibly the person has perished on that. jane: we are getting word that the dnc is planning to hold about a thousand of vets before the congressional recess and early this month, trying to reverse the opposition that has cropped up in town hall meetings across the nation.
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isn't this what the democrats accused republicans of doing, organizing events like this to talk about health care? >> yes, that is the new word of the year. astroturf. not grassroots, but manufactured civil defense, support, and advocacy for and against issues. democrats wanted and the recess on an up note -- wanted to end the recess on an up note. what the dnc plans to do, along with organizing for america, an adjunct organization of the 2008 campaign, is to begin to turn away from large town hall meetings, instead holding rallies and speeches in public places as part of an 11-city bus tour they say will ultimately create 1000 so-called events. the name of it all will be
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health insurance reform now, let's get it done. a clunky name, but they want it made sure that they inform the public. they hope you can avoid noisy dissent and deeply skeptical questions from those who believe that health care should not be advanced or reformed. so that is part of the problem, and you can hear it in the voices of folks like arlen specter, a republican who is now a democrat. he is supposed to be pro-reform, and even he expresses big misgivings. listen to this. >> there is tremendous anger. it is a matter of the deficit. i plan not to vote for a bill that raises the deficit, and we have to be concerned about the
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deficit. >> that was our inspector. he was a conservative, but now he is a liberal, and essentially echoing a sentiment. democrats hope to help poll numbers by giving speeches and rallies where they do all the talking. jon: dick cheney lashes out at the obama administration. why he is attacking the decision to launch a new investigation of the cia and its interrogation methods, and what this says about the administration's ability to defend our nation. (announcer) what are you going to miss when you have an allergy attack? achoo! (announcer) benadryl is more effective than claritin at relieving your worst symptoms. and works when you need it most. benadryl. you can't pause life.
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decision will be controversial, but this is what he has to say -- richard goodstein was an advisor to the clinton campaign, and we also have legislative director under george bush. what the former vice president is saying is that this puts our country in danger. >> for the vice-president, who insisted we would find mass destruction weapons in iraq, that we would be greeted as liberators, he made hamas stronger, al qaeda stronger, the u.s. image around the world was tarnished, and we took the hardest hit on his watch. this is a bit much. it was one thing if the bush- cheney record was clear on defending the country.
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i do not think the record supports that, and politically, let's be honest with ourselves, i think vice-president cheney is held in enough disregard by large segments of the u.s. public that to have him on one side of the debate frankly only helps the administration. jane: we also were quite safe under his watch for years now. >> yes. i think what is happening is the further we get away from 9/11, and now we approach eight years, we are allowing ourselves into a false sense of security. the heightened awareness that existed in the days immediately following 9/11 and four months and a few years after that, has gone by the wayside. now we find ourselves, i believe, in a position where it appears as though we are trying to settle scores against fellow americans.
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these folks foments nothing but cruelty upon us. it reminds me of the church and pike committees back in the 1970's. jane: the president talked about wanting to look forward, not back. >> he didn't. he was crystal clear that he did not want these prosecutions, but it speaks to the fact that you have, with all due respect to the bush administration, what you did not have an, an independent attorney general who basically said, "my hands are tied. i am looking at facts come here." a report issued in 2004 by the inspector general was written with facts he developed that eric holder now thinks tie his hands, saying that we need a special prosecutor. he reached out to somebody who did not have the republican credentials of kenneth starr,
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but someone who is independent, who went under -- after republicans and democrats alike and is a straight shooter. >> i would argue that eric holder is no more independent than john ashcroft was at the time. i used to work the justice department as an associate deputy attorney general, and they are quite independent. the point to look at is, even in 2004, career investigators and prosecutors and folks at the office of professional responsibility looked at this inspector general's report and did not make a recommendation that we should open prosecutorial activities against people who are working on our behalf to protect us from terrorist attacks. jane: much more to come on this. thank you to you both. jon: are multitasking is incompetent? results.
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jane: a dramatic rescue of this
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3-year-old girl. we watched it unfold here. how did she get out? new information today about al qaeda plot aimed at american targets, including trains, gas stations, and a bridge in this country. also, and look at the hottest tips for summer as we spend our hard-earned cash to allow at the movies. jon: a lot of embarrassed people at veterans affairs. that the va is sent letters out to people telling them they have lou gehrig's disease and are eligible for full disability. the thing is, some people do not. they underwent a battery of tests. the research center says a number of those wrongly diagnosed could be at least
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1200. the va disputes that number, less than 10 people actually called to complain. you are on disability because of your injuries during the gulf war. what did you think when you read your letter? >> i thought that i had received a death sentence. the letter informed me directly in one sentence that i had been diagnosed by the va with lou gehrig's disease, he met trophic lateral sclerosis. i had received a diagnosis. my mother read the letter to me over the phone, it had gone to her house, and it was several
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minutes before it could -- i could get myself back together to speak to her on the phone and grasp what the letter said and what the impact of it all was. jon: you thought you would be dead in five years at most. >> i saba to her that i would be dead in three years to five years. it is 100% fatal. jon: you know that because you volunteer at your va hospital. and it turns out you do not have the disease. how did you find out? >> i could not do anything about it that afternoon. i received a phone call from my mother at 3:00 in the afternoon, and there's nothing i could do about it until 8:00 the next morning, when i called my regional office and asked to speak to a director. it was late that afternoon before they finally figured out that it was all just a big mistake, an accident. jon: we ask veterans affairs for a statement on this, and here is
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part of what they told us. they say that employees are personally contacting these individuals to ensure that they understand the letter should not be concerned -- confused with a medical diagnosis of als. explain why they receive the letter, and expressing distress caused by this unfortunate and regrettable error. they say less than 10 people have complained, but it could be that 1200 others are simply in shock. >> absolutely. this is something that should have been put into the news media last thursday or friday. we are way too late here getting the word out to these other to 1200, 1800 numbers of veterans. and there is no mistake about the letter. the letter does say that you
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have been diagnosed with als. there are no two ways to read it. jon: how did they make a mistake? did they explain it? >> they said it was a diagnostic code error, that my diagnosis from 2006 had been given a diagnostic code and defect code transferred to als. i can be thankful. i have had a phone conversation with the director at the va office and an explanation. the purpose here is to get the word out to these other hundreds of veterans, specifically gulf war veterans, that have not gotten the word. what about the fellow who comes
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home this evening after being gone five days and opens the letter? that is the purpose. we need to get the word out. jane: a concern about a recent attack by hamas. >> this video shows the execution of a radical islamic cell. the reason here is that they do not have a free operating press, so hamas has cracked down. the video made its way to our jerusalem bureau. 22 people were killed, sparking off when the leader of this group, during a friday prayer
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has said that the gaza strip is a loyal islamic emirate. jane: do we know anything about the members of this group inspired by al qaeda? >> this group says the hamas has not been radical enough. they have been too soft on borders and policies with the israeli government. hamas does not want to see their authority challenged in the gaza strip. they have maintained a strong hold over the region since 2007 and they are looking to take anything out that might challenge that. jon: we want to update you on dramatic video a little girl as she was being rescued from a swimming pool. her arm was apparently stuck in part of the drain system. we will talk to the folks who helped get her free and take a closer look at just how safe are
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nation's schools are. more kids in danger? and are you sending teams to college? we will take a look at how big universities take preparations for a possible outbreak of age 1 and 1 swine flu. achoo! (announcer) what are you going to miss when you have an allergy attack? achoo! (announcer) benadryl is more effective than claritin at relieving your worst symptoms. and works when you need it most. benadryl. you can't pause life.
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jon: mayor tom barrett is back at work, just 10 days after being brutally attacked. he was beaten with a metal pipe as he tried to break up a domestic dispute. he is still building up his strength, but it is good to be on the job. >> it is good to be back. i had a cabinet meeting, and i
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had a lot of correspondence i was going through. jon: this shows how savage the beating was. it was to his face and right hand. the attacker has been charged with two felonies, to misdemeanors. jane: students getting ready to get back to school, and cities and towns are gearing up for a major battle against what is called the h1n1, swine flu, as some people call it. what do you do when your school is larger than a small town? chris gutierrez is at the university of texas at austin. why are they so worried about college students? >> you know, part of it is just
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that 80,000 people will be on this campus at any time. you have students living in dormitories, getting into classrooms that become virtual breeding grounds. already, 24 students have had confirmed cases, and to keep the number from rising, administrators are really pushing good hygiene. make sure that you wash your hands and do everything we have been urging you to do. every single restaurant here at the university of texas in austin has signs and posters saying not to shared drinks and food with roommates, and if you are sick, go home. some students are seeing the warning. listen here. >> there are signs in every bathroom sink to wash your hands, do not do this, people
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sleep on stuff and the library. >> they hope to get the vaccine summer in october. jane: the cdc handed out recommendations last week. does that change how they do business? >> it is surprising, because they closed last institutions a year ago. this year, they encourage students to stay home and incurred universities to reexamine absentee policies, because students will fear for their grades slipping. jane: thanks. if you want more information on this h1n1, go to foxnews.com. in the keyword search box, just put it in, and you'll find
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answers to your questions. we will continue to report, as well. jon: we all know there has not been a major attack on u.s. soil since 2001, but what we did not know was just how many and help many plots are people have thwarted. -- we did not know what kind of plots we have thwarted. word that the recession might be much worse than we thought. wait until you hear how much the deficit is expected to be for the next decade. shocking numbers. (announcer) what are you going to miss when you have an allergy attack? achoo! (announcer) benadryl is more effective than claritin at relieving your worst symptoms. and works when you need it most. benadryl. you can't pause life. announcer: you could buy 750 bottles of water or just one brita faucet filter. ( drop plinks ) brita-- better for the environment and your wallet.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jane: we begin with financial numbers that will knock your socks off. a shocking prediction about the future of our economy. the budget director says revised numbers show our economy in the
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midst of a deeper recession than previously thought, and they now say there will be a cumulative nine trillion dollar deficit in the next 10 years, two trillion more than this administration estimated in may. the deficit is now the highest it has been since the height of world war two were spending back in 1945. there are also fears that unemployment will climb more than previously thought. let's get to it. how does the administration respond to anxiety? >> i will get to it in a second, but we are duty bound here to give you the most details about the president's vacation. they have just returned to the compound. that is your update. several reporters were involved with the budget director, and he knows very well the numbers and politics.
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health care reform, losing popularity, he wanted to confront the idea that these revised deficit numbers could be deepening sense of the anxiety about health care reform. he told us last night, this is the president's budget director speaking, saying -- he is essentially saying that health care costs from the administration point of view rise unchecked, the deficit will only get worse. said last night that it will only bring numbers down. they're not sure, but the fight is now being joined by the administration. it is interesting. we had news and martha's vineyard this morning that ben
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bernanke would be reappointed to a second term as chairman of the fed. you might remember that president bush appointed him as reserve chairman in 2005. before that, he was briefly head of the council of economic advisers for the president. essentially, there was an endorsement today for some of bush's economic policies by obama. but on the question of whether the bush administration aide for the things it spent in office, peter orszag said it didn't. this year's projected deficit would have been five trillion dollars smaller if they used a pay-go. so part of the problem is laid at the feet of the previous administration. kind of a mixed message. jane: what are they saying about
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unemployment numbers? >> that it continues to be a serious problem for the economy. the administration projects there will be net economic growth throughout the entire year next year, but not enough to dramatically reduce unemployment. the average rate for 2009 is going to be 9.3%, and for next year, it will be 9.8%, meaning that unemployment will be a fact of life for millions of americans, even though the m -- american economy will pick up steam in 2010. many will remain without jobs. jane: we also want to get to new developments with the cash for clunkers program. the government has extended the deadline to 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight because the department computers crashed last night. a lot of dealers have been overwhelmed with last-minute sales agreements. ray lahood calls the program an unprecedented success and estimates nearly 800,000 cars
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have been sold. dealers have been worried about whether they will get paid, so it may take some time. jon: dick cheney is blasting the white house over its decision to watch and investigation into the cia's controversial investigation techniques used on terror suspects. the former vice president defends the tactics, saying that they save lives. he also says the investigation could threaten national security. catherine herridge has more for us live from washington. they have appointed a career prosecutor to review what the cia inspector general had to say, but haven't these documents been reviewed before? >> the attorney general appointed john durham, a career prosecutor who up until now it's been looking at the destruction of cia videotapes that documented some of these intense techniques. now he will do what is described as a preliminary review, considering whether there will be a full investigation and an
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ultimate criminal prosecution. one special point that has been lost in the reporting on these documents is that the ig report, the documents were overvalued by the prosecutors in the eastern district of virginia in the past five years concluding that only one case should be prosecuted, and that case was prosecuted. the recipe should be left alone so to speak. so you have to ask yourself what has changed to determine whether politics are in place. jon: what do new documents tell us about intelligence picked up during the investigation? >> they say a lot about intelligence gathered from the intelligence program. they described khalid sheikh mohammed as being in human rolodex with having a broad knowledge of al qaeda. k s m became one of the key sources on al qaeda.
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as a detainee, he provided reports shedding light on strategic doctrines, plots, and like the methods for attacks on the homeland. an important point to emphasize, though, is that none of these documents are specific, saying that we used or the cia used waterboarding or enhanced interrogations, and it therefore got us this information. in fact, the documents never mentioned the program at all. this is why the value of this intelligence is still open to debate. jon: that brings us to our foxnews.com question of the day. should the justice department reopened and possibly prosecute cases of alleged errors suspect by cia interrogators? a lot of you weighing in on this survey. about 96% says yes. about 6% say no. we want to know what you think. go to our website, foxnews.com,
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cast your vote, make your voice heard. you can look at the top of the page and find a link to the survey right there. jane: nasa has been forced to scrub liftoffs today due to bad weather. thunderstorms pop up unexpectedly near the launch site. they will try again just after 1:00 a.m. tomorrow. the shuttle discovery will carry seven astronauts and supplies to the international space station. among the cargo, a new tread mill, named for the comedian steven colbert. he campaigned to have a space station run named after him and encouraged viewers to submit his name on line. but he had to settle in the end for a treadmill. jon: south korea costs its first rocket launch a success, partially. the satellite separated from the rocket, but failed to reach orbit. south korea wants to be a
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regional , along with china, japan, and india. jane: concerns today about flood controls built to protect new orleans in the wake of a hurricane. a federal investigation found that they may not work. the army corps of engineers installed new pumps after katrina and were supposed to be able to pump millions of gallons of water out of the city, which is below sea level. they were not tested, and cost hundreds of millions of dollars. now the federal office of special counsel calls them unreliable. the army corps of engineers could have saved for another $30 million buying equipment proven to work. so far, the court has declined comment on this study. we will let you know if they do make a statement. jon: harris faulkner continues with breaking news on the throgg's neck bridge in new york city. >> this is been the scene of real problem since the start of the renovation on this bridge.
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today, it actually includes a fatality. this is the scene we have been showing you all morning long. a worker has fallen near craned -- near a crane. work has been done on this heavily traveled bridge, and it just reopened recently to heavy trucks after a huge fire to stay few weeks ago from a worker cost blowtorch. so it has been the scene of a lot of breaking news. northbound lanes remain closed at this time, and this worker did not make it. all that equipment you see, he was trapped in for that when they got him out. they covered him, and that is the rest of the story. back to you. jane: more than 100 dogs getting a new lease on life. they were rescued from the midwest, and they are now staying in madison, new jersey and an animal shelter. most of them are purebred, and they spent most of them lives in
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cages and have not touched the grass. they're now looking for new homes. dozens of volunteers are providing veterinary examinations, bathing, and grooming, and they will be ready for adoption this week. jane: my dogs are going to be two. my daughters are twins. jon: it had the potential for catastrophe. bombs exploded inside a california high school, and this whole thing could have been worse. what cops say one of the bombers was armed with. you will not believe it. ( chirp ) team three, boathouse? ( chirp ) oh yeah-- his and hers. - ( crowd gasping ) - ( chirp ) van gogh? ( chirp ) even steven. - ( chirp ) mansion. - ( chirp ) good to go. ( grunts ) timber! ( chirp ) boss? what do we do with the shih-tzu? - ( crowd gasps ) - ( chirp ) joint custody.
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jon: we mentioned earlier, the question asks, should the justice department reopened and prosecute cases of alleged mistreatment of terror suspects by cra is interrogators. if you watched the screen
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closely, i did not get it right. a lot of the weighed in on it, and i transposed. i misspoke. 6% of you say, yes, we should reopen the investigation. 94% say no, let's keep it closed. keep in mind this is an unscientific survey. we do want to know what you think, though. go to our website and cast your vote their. jane: this ought to get your attention. a church in jefferson county, missouri, turning a spotlight on forgiveness. check out these billboards. they're asking if situations are forgivable. the circumstances, sex offenders, suicide, cheating on your boyfriend, telling white
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lies. >> people wrestling with forgiveness. how do you forgive someone who killed your friend? jon: yesterday you saw the shocking scene in california. a bombing there, and it turns out a 17-year-old boy is behind bars after setting off two explosions at san mateo's hillsdale high school. that might have been the best possible outcome here. we are now learning that this kid walked into school, and cops say that he was loaded with pipe bombs and armed with a chainsaw and a sword. claudia is live for us in san francisco.
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how many weapons were recovered? >> the 17-year-old suspect had 10 pipe bombs, and a plan to carry out a columbine-style attack. he plans to go after survivors with a chainsaw and a two-foot long sword. fortunately, just two bombs blew up and no one was hurt. jon: how was he caught? >> heroes work on the part of the victims, who remained calm. just after class began, the lights went out, fire alarms went off, and explosions when off near the library. they saw the suspect turned on not a chain saw, wearing a vest with the eight on exploded pipe
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bombs. several teachers chased him down, tackled him, running straight towards the danger, rather than away from it. police are giving the staff and autocratic for being so brave. not a lot of damage to the building, but the building is still a crime scene today. no word on a motive just yet. police are only saying that this young man did attend high school in past, dropped out for unclear reasons, and has anger towards teachers there. he lives with his mother and sister in a nearby apartment complex, where neighbors described him as shy and reclusive. no word on whether more weapons were found. police believe he acted alone.
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jane: we watched the story unfold live. maybe you were here with us yesterday. this 3-year-old girl in the swimming pool got her arm stuck in the drain. it could have been disastrous, because in other cases, the kids have drowned. we will talk to some of those heroes you are seeing on the screen now. also, there are lessons for all of us.
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jane: this three year-old girl, her tiny arm was caught in a pool grain, and rescuers cut through cement to get her out in time.
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with us now are the deputy chief and his partner. how did her arm get in there? how did her arm get in there? >> at the end of the day, her mom saved her life, and she is the hero here. the water was up to her chin when we got there, and the mom was far away, we would get to an incident where we drowned and the victim has already had a chance to be safe and they were not. so in this case, the mother took
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action and made a difference. you see me there, according efforts to relieve pressure from the pool so we could make it easier for her to breathe and be supported. once that task was accomplished, i jump in the pool to direct operations from in there. we realized we needed assistance and requested the technical rescue team, and with their heavy equipment we coordinated efforts to break away concrete. i have a piece of a similar pipe to what her hand was caught in, and she was up to the forearm, but her hand was tucked in like this.
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jane: go ahead and show us. we can see it now. >> her hand was tucked in like this. we basically had to evacuate the concrete from around the wall and the back of the pipe and ultimately with a little piece of wire we were able to get in behind there and i was able to do this motion. we saw the pipe out from her hand and eventually your whole hand came out. she was extremely tough, the mother was instrumental in keeping her under control and helping her get through the ordeal. there was a lot of heavy equipment. the parents were fabulous and they supported us to everything we had to do, and i cannot say enough about them.
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>> i talked to the family. i got to talk to them. hopefully, this will continue to go and the right direction. there is still a follow up that have to do, by right now, everything is positive. jane: we have the director of a group called safe kids usa their mission is to prevent injuries like this. one of the questions asked was, what is the law here? wasn't there a recent law that had to make these drains a safer, and did they have the right equipment in this public school? >> yes, congress passed a law two years ago called the virginia gramm baker pool and spa safety act, which changes the way public pools and spas
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are maintained in constructed in this country in order to prevent entrapments from happening in the first place. this happens far too often, and this could have resulted -- it could have been different. it was heroic effort that saved her life. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. the government agency in charge of the act has already opened up investigation, and we have to find out whether compliance would have prevented it in the first place. in any event, we should start seeing other levels of
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prevention. jane: great to see happy ending. thank you. jon: a fox news alert. just getting word of a small plane down in an unexpected place in new jersey. harris is on it at the breaking news desk. >> usually when you go to the shopping mall, this is not what you expect to see. this is the town square mall in rockaway township, new jersey. the plane landing in the parking lot. the good news is, it is operate. this story is just breaking, so we do not have a lot of detail. i cannot even tell you how many people were in there. but good news is upright, and it looks like it may have made a hard landing. you see a lot of foam. they will do that if they think the gasoline on board will spark a fire. but not a lot of virgin movement from emergency crews there. that can be a good sign. i do not want to assume anything
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other than that a plane went down in a shopping mall in new jersey. a picture is worth a thousand words. jon: we will check in in a little bit. (mom) soon, we'll be doing homework,
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dollars. how will this affect the obama plan to change health care? alison schwartz of pennsylvania is with us, vice chair of the budget committee, and it tim francs of arizona, a member of the republican study committee. congressman franks, almost two trillion dollars more in deficit than anybody was forecasting a the next decade. what is your assessment? what does that mean for health care reform? >> it should mean that this is the absolutely wrong time to be adding another trillion dollars in spending. i saw a statistic the other day that was profound. it said the 12 trillion dollar debt now, if we paid it off a million dollars a day and did not add debt or interest, it would take us 34,000 years to pay it off.
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and now we're talking about the next dozen years. we are not paying it off. we're going into debt, two dozen times that much every day. so i just have to say to you, they need to tell the truth about this debt. >> as vice chair of the budget committee, i feel strongly about bringing down that debt. reducing the deficit is the commitment we have made. this few years deficit is ultimately down, but we have to be serious about it. part of that is making sure we do health care reform, and the fact is that legislation will be paid for, that is a commitment we have made. we will not add to the deficit.
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we passed rules to make sure that is so, and in the legislation we have already presented in the house, half of the trillion dollars is paid for through savings and reductions and current programs and cuts we can make, so that is half. the other half will be paid for. jon: this new deficit number is 20% higher than anybody projected. it is one thing for government officials to say we are going to do this and that, but the cold facts of reality sometimes are very different than what was expected. >> speaking of facts, i do not know how someone draws a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit and says
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it is down. that is the highest since world war two, about 11% of gdp, and every projection at this administration has made has always ended up costing a great deal more. it is indigenous to government. i have to say to you, people better wake up and be vigilant. we're taking this country and a direction that, if we do not stop soon, it could be a central theme in the obituary. >> we will watch these numbers very carefully. unless we can bring the cost down of health care for government and businesses and families, we will not be able to sustain the rate of growth doing nothing.
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there is dead, not to mention competitiveness and a target for these families. so action has to be taken, and we will do it responsibly. >> if indeed a takeover brings down the cost of health care, it will be a first in history. jon: alison schwartz, trent francs, thank you both. jane: summer ball -- box office revenues are on the verge of an all-time high. are we on track to break records? >> we certainly are. this season starts may 1 and goes through labor day, and it started with a bang with x-men, and it has been in fine form ever since. a staff member told me that 2007 holds the record for the strongest box office ever, but the summer of 2009 is on track to be it.
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the real key has been august. usually august is a slow month, but this august, films like " inglourious basterds" have done much better than expected. when times are bleak, you want escapism, and the films doing that are the ones that are doing well. jon: a small plane down in new jersey. >> yes, the rockaway mall in new jersey. i'm trying to nail down for this guy might have been going, but here is what we know so far. one person reportedly on board his plane that has gone down by the town square.
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there are cars about 100 feet away, and he was able to set it down and basically what away. he is being treated for injuries, but we have not confirmed his condition at this point. this small plane, a cessna 172. they were sticking buckets under one of the wings of the aircraft, and all that foam might lead to believe that fuel leaked out. they want to keep that from igniting a fire situation. but one of the wings may have been leaking some sort of like wood, so they put a bucket in. you can see damage to the right wing. the front part. we do not know if that happened on the ground or about is what caused him to have to make an emergency landing, but we do
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know that this plane is owned by genesis, and aircraft turner company out of paramus, new jersey. this is about 20 miles from the nearest airport i've been able to contact, and they were not expecting this guy. it is not clear where he might have been going. one person reported injured. now, look how close they really were. 100 feet is not that far in a plane. he walked away, and according to you, that would be a good landing. jon: it looks like he may have rep. for the fuel bladder inside the wings. >> yes, and again, and they have a bucket under the wing, hopefully capturing anything that could ignite.
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but the pilot reportedly walking away from this. i will try and confirm what the condition is, but as you say, anything you can walk away from. and no one was injured on the ground. jane: surprising news on the terrorism front. our intelligence agents may have foiled several al qaeda plot aimed to destroy some centers of transportation in this country. brian wilson on the details, next. n
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trace: hot temperatures in arizona. a sentence this model to be caned. now, the judge made a critical decision. that is coming up. jane: we're learning more from cia documents about terror plot that have been foiled. that intensified this battle over how effective the cia interrogations program has been. brian has been looking at the documents. any surprises? >> the most important thing is the assessment of the unnamed person who wrote one document in 2003. his assessment was that the interrogations program had been an absolute success. the bottom line is that these documents will be scrutinized. there will be plenty of debate over whether the techniques were too harsh or whether interrogators went too far, and it is important to note that
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some information they got in those interrogations' broke up a big plot against the u.s. against allies. most of this has been reported over the past several years, but buried in the just-released documents are new details. there were al qaeda plans for 9/11-type attack against the tallest building in california. it is called the library tower, located in los angeles. you see it on the screen there. intelligence led to arrests that foiled the plot. intelligence also led to arrests of an al qaeda member involved in a plan for 9/11-type attack against heathrow airport and another area near downtown london known as the canary wharf. this is a well-known business district, akin to wall street. we do not know, but catherine herridge has talked to her
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sources at the cia who says that caliche, hamas was the provider of the very best -- to leachate mohammad -- khalid sheikh mohammed was the provider of the best intelligence, repealed after waterboarding. >> we're learning more. the pilot of this plane is being treated by paramedics at the scene. people are pouring out of the shopping mall, particularly the j.c. penney store that is just adjacent to where the plane went down in the last 30 minutes or so. this is the rock await town square mall in new jersey, an unbelievable scene here. there is foam on the ground, they are catching fluid with buckets, and that could be fuel. i did not want to speculate too much, but you say that is where the fuel is usually kept on these planes.
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in the middle of this parking lot away from cars. this is what they are saying about the story. this is the third incident involving a small plane in new jersey. friday, a plane crashed near teterboro airport trying to avoid a crash, and you will remember that the helicopter colliding earlier this month over the hudson river with a small plane near hoboken, new jersey -- nine people died in that. a lot of sensitivity in the sky above new jersey as we see small planes flying around. i normally a safe way to fly, but not this summer. jane: fire in the streets. what sparked a violent face-off with police. we will show you more pictures next. i never thought i would have a heart attack, but i did. you need to talk to your doctor about aspirin. you need to be your own advocate. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. you take care of your kids,
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jane: violent clashes breaking
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out in the largest city in south america. riot police near sao paulo, brazil, are trying to evacuate in legal residents. police fired teargas to disperse crowds, and they shot back with rockets and homemade bombs. one person was hurt, which is pretty incredible. the three protesters were taken into custody. jon: michigan police are searching for a suspect in the murder of this man, dennis mccarthy. police say that an intruder stormed into his home sunday and there was a struggle. but there is a twist. he had just been released from jail after serving time. police did not consider this random violence. they think that somebody had a grudge against crampon mccarthy. jane: christianity is being
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attacked on the internet. we have the latest. >> yes, packers are trying to target christians by pulling some juvenile stunts on facebook. there are reports of obscene pictures and racist messages being posted on people's pages that make the user to look like they sent out these crude status updates or made nasty, insensitive comments on their friend's walls or pictures. we cannot show you most of them, because they are nasty, but basically saying, talking about the sex they have last night or send someone as ugly. the hacker group responsible work of this website at, and they are the ones who attacked sarah palin's account and celebrities like steve jobs and maile cyrus, saying they had died. but this time they still logged in info of christian dating
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sites. they say it is hard to keep catching predators, because people posted anonymously, there is no search feature, and accounts expire. earlier this year, a christian family group lost thousands. i am hosting a "strategy room" on foxnews.com. check it out. jon: a new warning from the white house about the h1n1 virus. why the government says hospitals might not be able to handle a major outbreak, and what you need to know. that is next. also, check out foxnews.com for more on h1n1. lots of them permission on our website. . a heart attack caused by a clot, one that could be fatal.
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in jane: in significant morning on h1n1 virus, or from the white house. a science panel says that there could be severe disruptions at hospitals across the country this fall and the swine flu could end up hospitalizing 2 million people. they expect 90,000 people could digest from contact, double the amount caused by the typical flu season. with me now is a doctor. is this morning warranted? some believe these numbers are overblown. >> i think the numbers are overblown, based on past pandemic. so far we have only seen about two dozen deaths. so far it shows no signs of going away in the southern hemisphere, and i think they are right to issue a memo like this. the young adult population at are the ones to have the most
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severe side effects, so that is important. 1.8 million hospitalizations is probably excessive, but importantly, if we see fear of this thing, we will see our emergency rooms crowded from people who are nervous. we do not want anyone to get in the way of someone who needs life saving treatment. right now it is still a mild virus. jane: what can hospitals do, and are they doing it? >> we always fill our hospitals with the insured. after that, we do not have enough care. the best thing we can say about the swine flu is it can easily be taken care of without going to the hospital, unless you have a serious case. we also have anti-of viral and drugs that we can use to contain
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this. we have another vaccine that is coming. the good news is, we are using old technology and people should be reassured that it is likely to be a safe vaccine, and print -- clinical trials look good now. jane: we are talking about this vaccine now, and with everyone going back to school and october, is it too late? >> no, it is not. a lot of these fatalities will happen over the years. it is not as if you are going to get to school in you will see an enormous help break. i wish the vaccine were ready now, but when it does, in october, i will be pushing for schools to use it. we need everyone young and that older people vaccinated. jane: we will be talking about jane: we will be talking about

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