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jane: attributes are pouring in for senator ted kennedy who has died at age of 77. the flag at capitol hill has been lowered t t half staff. jon: the patriarch of the kennedy family died last night. president obama was opened at 2:00 a.m. to be notified of his death. >> his extraordinary life on this earth has come to an end. the extraordinary good that he did lives on. for his family, he was a guardian. for america, the defender of a dream. jon: we are live in hyannis port right now. what is the family same about the loss of this man? >> we are at the family compound, where the family is often together in times of joy,

but today, in grief. they say that they have lost an irreplaceable center of their family. they say his perseverance will live on for ever. the statement ended, saying, it is hard to imagine any thing without him. jon: what is happening outside the compound? >> not surprising, a dramatic amount of media has arrived. the neighbors still want to maintain the quality of being a quiet neighborhood here. people are walking dogs, kids are on their bikes. but this is a town that has not lost -- not just lost a senator, but a neighbor. some are in bringing some flowers by, shall win their respect -- showing their respect for someone whom they're always salt around the neighborhood.

jon: what do we know about the funeral? any plans in place? >> we have not received word of the than the estimate may be released. we expect to hear from a family member perhaps later today as the funeral arrangements get in place. jon: thank you. jane: ted kennedy served in the senate for nearly 50 years. harry reid this morning said it was a thrill of a lifetime to work assigned him. he added -- john, senator kennedy ran for president back in 1980 when he challenged then sitting president jimmy carter for the democratic nomination. today, he was among the many to pay tribute to the late senator.

>> his first commitment was always to the people who were most in need, and he worked for those who were deprived and society. not only for them, but he was very effective in his legislation. he was dedicated. jon: he added, he does not think there is anybody who served in the congress right now who would be served asked -- who would be missed as much as ted kennedy. jane: in 2004, kennedy changed state laws, keeping john kerry in office. days before his death, he urged senators to go back to the old method. he said it was vital to have two senators serving during this health care debate.

friends and colleagues are remembering him across the country. coming up, we will speak to a friend. jon: say goodbye to hurricane bill and hello to tropical storm danny. janice dean is live for us in the fox weather center. >> this one is forming closer to home and we think it has the potential to become a hurricane and a big story perhaps for the outer banks. 45 mile per hour sustained wind right now. 600 miles away from the bahamas. this is the path. as you can see, it becoming a hurricane close to north carolina. look where that cone of uncertainty takes us, into the

new york area. again, five days away, lot of uncertainty. talking about hurricane bill, the computer models were precinct, but we have quite a bit of the audience here -- succinct, but we have quite a bit of variation here. as we go throughout the day today, we will have a better idea of where the storm is going to go, but of course, all along the east coast we are talking about a possible hurricane. you need to be monitoring things in getting your preparation in gear. jon: and because it has formed so close to shore, not a lot of

lead time. >> bill was a good trial run. we need to pay attention to danny now. jane: we all know senator kennedy was deeply committed to health care reform. this morning claire mccaskill is holding a town hall meeting on this issue. >> i heard what you have said. people are afraid of the government. >> [inaudible] >> people are afraid and sometimes impolite. jane: it got pretty rowdy last night in virginia. you can see howard dean is trying to speak, but they were drowning him heout. jane: some of the venting by

constituents is related to issues other than health reform. what is at issue? >> some believe it is taxes. one man said 50% of his money is getting taken away by the government. here is the exchange. >> [inaudible] the only answer to your question is our form of government allows you to collect a representative -- >> the mob has the right to tell you what to do. >> taxes and spending, some of the other issues that are coming up. jane: the one that we show with howard dean, how did that one end? >> he wanted to talk about the government plan, and it was a pretty feisty exchange. >> the last thing i want to say

was that i support president obama's health care plan including a public option. [applause] [boo]s and whistles] jane: thank you. jon: take a look at wall street. dow industrials up five points. in the meantime, there are signs the manufacturing sector is bouncing back from the recession. denali is reporting from the fox business network. -- jenna lee is reporting from the fox business network. >> on the manufacturing side, we have durable-goods orders for

july. these are items that will last you a couple of years. this is important for the manufacturing sector because if these orders are up, you can produce more items. it was up at the highest we have seen in two years. good news for the manufacturing sector. however, year over year, they are still down, but we are looking better as we approached the second half of 2009. new-home sales also better than expected today. we are seeing people go out and go shopping. new-home sales only make up to 50% of the market, so we have to keep that in mind. there is also a thought that homeland could slow down when the tax credit expires. definitely some questions whether this data is sustainable.

jon: jenna lee. thank you. jane: we are watching firefighters struggling to get an upper hand on wildfires in southern california. we will update you. jon: and we will continue to look back at the life of late -- of the late senator ted kennedy. what this means potentially for president obama's plan for health care reform.

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jon: a well fire raging out of control in southern california right now. 1000 firefighters are trying to battle flames 20 miles northeast of downtown los angeles. 40-foot flames are roaring through the bush and brush.

no homes for them right now. firefighters say they are in for a tough day facing temperatures above 100 degrees and here that is bone dry. gain, we continue to get -- jane: we continue to get condolences for the kennedy family. president obama among them praising him for his lifetime of service. >> the outpouring of love, gratitude, and fond memories to which we have all born with this is a testament to the way the stimulus -- figure in political history touch so many lives. his ideals are stamped on scores of laws and reflected in millions of lives. jane: on the telephone with us now is a former arizona senator, a democrat who knew him quite well. you said about him, he had a charm and i do not know anybody

like that. >> was remarkable. he came from a very privileged life, but you would never know because he was one of the boys -- maybe one of the girls. he could talk to anyone. we became friends because i served with him on the judiciary committee. i came from a very conservative area. he and i will be on different issues often, but there was never any rancor. he would say, give me your vote on this and i promise you will not have your name in the press release. that was kind of the way he worked. we worked on a lot of legislation together, like equal rights amendment that i supported.

there were other issues that sometimes we would disagree on, and i had once put in an earmarked in for him in my appropriations bill because i could not turn him down. he asked me if i would do him a favor. i said, why not get someone else, get in authorized? he said, dennis, you are the only one that can do this for me. of course, that was not true, anybody would have done it for him. the first thing he would say to me in the senate is, i need more money! once he called me when i was

staying in paris. he was walking around in massachusetts and called me up. he had this great sense of humor that turned you on to the guy. as president obama just said, he believed, really believed in what he was standing for. many of us -- he came from a state that was not always in agreement with his own ideas, like with prescription drugs, but when he was there, he argued it. i do not know anyone quite like him. i am saddened by this, but i am so thankful to have had the opportunity to work with him. jane: i know that you spoke with him after his diagnosis. did he speak about that? >> i sent him a copy of my book

and sent him some well-wishers after i had heard. he called me on the telephone. he called me on the phone and i was taken aback. we spoke for a few minutes. i told him how sorry i was and that he could beat it. he said, i will do our -- my best, but we have to take life as it comes. i appreciate your friendship and i appreciate you mentioning me in your book. i do not know if he read it for someone read it to him, but he took the time to call me directly. that is surprising because usually when senators called, is someone else calling on their behalf. the first thing he says it is,

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jon: pretty hard to remind the run the latest projections about the federal deficit, whether it is $7 trillion or $9 trillion over the next decade in stimulus spending. california republican ed royce, and bailout critic, he says today's debt is tomorrow's

misery. he says -- this is a significant burden we are placing on the american taxpayers. he joins us now. is it true that these projections do not even include the cost of cap and trade legislation and reforming health care? >> that is true. if we recall, ben bernanke, the chair of the federal reserve, indicated to me when i asked him about this earlier in the year, certainly, trillion dollar deficit going forward as far as the eye could see is unsustainable. that is where we are right now, without including health insurance reform were cap and trade. the reason the german and so many of us are nervous about this is we have seen a tripling of the deficits.

33% increases in some of these appropriations bills. this money needs to be borrowed from someone, and the interest presumably need to be paid. you just had the office of management and budget increase their production to $9 trillion over the next 10 years. certainly, a greater number than all the budgets that preceded it. jon: you know the argument, in the government, you just print more money. >> as an enthusiast for free market economics, and someone who believes that the private sector is the real source of wealth, i believe these deficits will matter, especially when they reached the unsustainable levels that we have now reached.

$1.60 trillion this year. again, we have not only federalized and taken an interest in these companies, now we are doing this with health care and the energy markets. we are going down the road where we are moving to the left the size and scope of government involvement, and we are not getting out of the recession as a result. you are watching asia and europe beginning to recover. france is up 0.3%. you are watching us continued to falter under this burden. these are the wrong policies and i think we are headed quickly in a direction where accumulating

debt will have a catastrophic effect on interest rates. jon: thank you. jane: angry voters turning up at these town hall meetings. we have seen some even this morning. now democrats are saying, maybe we should be blaming ourselves for how this issue is being handled. >> wait a minute

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>> the work begins in new. the hope rises again. the dream lives on. [applause] jon: an emotional moment from denver in last summer's democratic national convention as ted kennedy passes the torch to barack obama. many members of the kennedy family on hand for that. joining me now to talk about that is chris wallace. we all knew the senator was ailing, but when the news broke that he passed away, it really made you stop and think. this is really a changing of the guard-type of moment. >> first of all, i was fortunate enough to be on the podium right behind senator kennedy at the convention in denver.

i had covered him in 1980 when he ran unsuccessfully for president against jimmy carter. it was a very emotional moment. we only found out later how emotional it was. he was battling a brain cancer, and in fact, had just suffered a kidney stone. he spent the previous night in the hospital in denver and when he delivered the speech, he actually had a pain trip under his sleeve into his wrist to keep him from screaming in pain. he was determined to be at the convention. you had a sense that he was passing the torch to barack obama. i was just thinking, there were nine kennedy siblings, and

jackie, bobby, joe, kathleen, and now there's only one left. of course, teddy and eunice gun in a short time here in hyannis. jon: i remember the feeling that he was sort of the black sheep of the kennedy brothers, but through his time in the senate, he established himself as a force to be reckoned with. >> yes, he was the baby of the family and there was very much a sense that he was riding on his brothers and fathers coattail. he had a very checkered history. he was kicked out of harvard for cheating. but he grew up. it took him a long time. i was looking at his accomplishments in the senate. he was largely responsible for the schip.

families with americans with disabilities, no child left behind. it is interesting, he worked with george h.w. bush and with george w. bush on nclb. these pictures that you are seeing now, so instrumental after the primary. of course, it was marked by these shark attacks by clinton and of the month. now we have the liberal line of the party endorsed and barack obama. that was a big deal. the clintons realized it. it may have been the last great political act of him in his career. john, i am sure ted kennedy will

occupy a portion of your show this weekend. thank you. former president bush room during ted kennedy today, saying -- for more on our extensive coverage on the extraordinary career of ed kennedy, log onto foxnews.com. jane: we want to bring you some breaking news. there will be a news conference in south carolina for the lieutenant governor there. we are told the bill be calling for the governor of south carolina mark sanford to step down. if he does, he would be the most prominent official to call for

the resignation. there have also been questions raised about how legal his travel had been. the lieutenant governor said it is not that he is looking for mark sanford's job, because he will not be running. as soon as that gets underway, we will take you there. in the meantime, the death of senator kennedy leaves democrats without a driving force for health care reform. his passing comes as there is a major rift between democratic and republican parties. the polls indicate a lot of voters are not happy with the government spending so much money and also with all of the government intervention. with me now are two california

democrats. thank you for being here. i want to put up a comment from a writer and someone who worked for senator lieberman. he said he is encouraging democrats to stop attacking the public you are trying to woo. he goes on to say -- your thoughts? >> i certainly agree with the sentiments that you provided. i do not know if i would agree with this whole column, but i did not know about this plan in the public. jane: let me interrupt you. he is clear about pointing out nancy pelosi specifically and the statement about her calling

these town hall meetings people un-american. >> i think she was pointing the finger at these unsavory tactics. not blaming the public at large on health care reform. frankly, in the august recess, not a whole lot has changed in the democratic party. there is still consensus on moving forward on health care reform, covering the uninsured. probably the bigger change has been in the gop. some members have been emboldened by the conservative base to oppose health care reform rather than trying to work toward a compromise. you also mentioned at the outset senator kennedy and month out -- influence this will have. i think it will have been detrimental impact. he was a voice within the democratic party that could say in terms of a bipartisan compromise, if we could get

there, this is a deal that we should take. he would have the respect where his message would be received well among democrats. you need someone like that in the democratic and republican party. we have lost a real champion. we need a voice like that on the gop side as well, but we lost a real democratic champion today. jane: where is this debate going? >> first of all, the people do not want this public option. they do not want the government, and between them and their doctor. they do not want rationing of health care that takes place in europe and elsewhere. they do not want to wait months for an mri. that is what is going to happen if we have this public option. we have an alternative, and that alternative solves the problems and create a safety net for the

people who really need help ensure the right now. but it does not kill the goose that laid the golden egg. for adam to say that the republicans are an impediment to -- they had a 50-vote majority in the house and we are not getting any input. they are making all the decisions and there are blaming us for not being willing to compromise. they are not willing to listen to us. the american people are upset because they do not want socialized medicine in the country. jane: what about the idea of moving slowly but surely in doing this piece by piece and making the public more comfortable? >> we are going to do the best we can. we need to reform the health- care system and we need to do it as soon as we can because health-care costs are going up for most families three times faster than their wages. it is only a matter of time

before they cannot afford their health-insurance premiums. we are spending 16% of our gdp on health care and we will bankrupt the country that we are going to try to get the best product weekend. i hope it will be done in a bipartisan way. if that does not happen, we still have the obligation to govern as the majority party and we will do what we need to do to reform the system, but ideally we will be working together. as i mentioned, we lost a real voice in that fight to was always great and bringing voices together, but now we need to be inspired by his leadership to find a way to reform health care. those are the goals that we are all after. jane: we have to leave it there. thank you.

jon: take a look at dow industrials. they were up a bit earlier. meantime, the postal service says it will cut costs, including buyouts to thousands of its employees. jenna lee has more on that. the postman might take a buyout? >> it is interesting to see that the postal service is the largest federal agency in the country. but it takes no taxpayer money at all. it is truly self funded. during into a recession it does get hit as other companies do, so you may not notice last don't mail, but companies are certainly cutting back on their mailings. that is really affecting the postal service. they are expecting a loss into timbre of about $7 billion. what they're trying to do is cut

costs aggressively. they are offering this buyout to eligible employees. they need to know if they are going to take it before september 25. they believe it can save the postal service about half a million dollars in the next two years. as far as anything we might see, your mail could be delivered at a different time because they are trying to make deliveries more efficient. as far as closing some offices, eliminating service, that does not seem likely right now. it could be further out. no real effects on your delivery this time. jon: so they are trying to replace some of their more expensive people? >> i do not know about that. it depends on their retirees who are eligible. they would get some money at the end of this year and some at the

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jon: back to our top story, the death of 10 kennedy, a man who spent most of his life in public service. edward kline is the author of "ted kennedy, the dream that never dies." your book came on a few months ago. obviously, people knew that he was ailing. you say that this was a man who summoned the best in himself, even though he at times surrendered to his demons. >> like so many other great men, he was a man of parts.

he was not a perfect individual, but if you look at the entirety of his career and what he accomplished and how much he did for people who were shut out of the system, the overall assessment has to be one of very positive light spent to the benefit of other people. jon: i was still young when president kennedy was assassinated. i did not realize that the massachusetts senate seat that he would go on to hold was held open for him because at that time his brother was killed, he was not even 30 years old, not enough -- old enough to serve. >> at the time his brother was elected president he was not old enough to serve. jon: but the seat became open, that is what i'm trying to say. >> yes, senator kennedy in those

days was not thought of as the shock -- sharpest knife in the kennedy door. i think he grew into that role. jon: there were early signs of trouble in his life. he had been kicked out of harvard for cheating, for example, but always found a way to redeem himself from these problems. >> he did, until 1991 when you had that palm beach trail when he took his son and nephew out to drink one night and they brought some women home. this was a tremendous blotch on the senator's reputation, and his poll numbers in massachusetts plummeted. it was not until he married vicki, his current wife, and

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jane: we continue to cover the death of ted kennedy. the associated press is reporting that team will be buried at arlington national cemetery. we are working to confirm that. we have also learned that there

was some talk about a meeting in the works between president obama and senator kennedy while he was on vacation. we have learned that the president reached out to the family but was told that the senators condition had deteriorated too much for that and a visit would not be appropriate, so he deferred to them. his tenure in the session was marked more -- by more than just for longevity. his accomplishments are pretty incredible and he reached across the aisles, and times. carl cameron is at the capitol for us. talk about his legacy and record. >> we describe him as the liberal lion of the senate, and despite him being partisan, many of his enemies love to work with

him. when it came to legislation, he was the consummate lawmaker. when you look at his early career, some of the things that he primarily sponsored were pushed, the national teacher corps, bilingual education of public schools, low-income heating assistance. in nutrition program for young mothers. the landmark american disabilities act. in the clinton era, he was responsible for getting direct student loan payments approved, americorps. he was one of the prime movers behind the family federal leave act. he sponsored a health care reform bill that is able to pass after the clinton health care debacle that began the beginning of medical savings accounts. during the bush presidency he was also deeply involved in bipartisanship. he helped the president passed a

prescription medicare drug benefit. among other things, he helped president bush passed nclb. that puts him at odds with some progressives and liberals in his own party, but as people are saying today, he had a reputation for compromise. he could persuade the rules to come to the center to accept more moderate proposals, and because of the sheer dominance of his name, he was able to work with a lot of republicans. orrin hatch has noted how much he will be missed. john mccain under a bill with ted kennedy as well years ago. in jane: it is pretty stunning when you look at it all. thank you.

jon: we have continuing coverage on the life and death of senator ted kennedy. it is not just a nation that will miss him. people across the world, foreign leaders, are speaking up. we will have some more information. medicare.

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influential senators in u.s. history, a towering figure in the democratic party. he died in his home last night after a year-long battle with brain cancer. kennedy compound and expensive -- impressive list of accomplishments from health care reform to to the right. he worked tirelessly for causes in which he believed. here is a look at the white house. blacks across the country are flying at half staff now, honoring a great public servant. major garrett is in martha's vineyard. the president spoke about kennedy's passing this morning. what did he say? >> let me first give you some background information. i have confirmed in the days leading up to the family vacation here, and while they

were here on the island, the president regularly inquired with the family and when it could be inappropriate for him to visit. he was advised, however that his condition had deteriorated to the point that it would not be a corporate for him to visit. his condition was simply not sufficient for any type of brief interaction with president obama. the family has always expressed their appreciation for the president wishing to visit, but it just did not work out because again, the family said he was too sick to take visitors. as you mentioned, that his private estate where the first family is staying here, the president did talk about senator kennedy in remarks that he wrote himself. it took about one hour.

he talked about not only ted kennedy's political legacy, but his legislative one, calling him teddy. >> his ideas and ideals are stamped on scores of laws and reflected in millions of lives. in children who no indications promise, and in all who can pursue their dreams in an america that is more people and more just, including myself. >> the president talks about himself and there are direct benefits, more to the legislative legacy, but the president also benefited from the very powerful endorsement that he received in the campaign.

jon: i know you were able to confirm he will be injured at arlington national cemetery. john kennedy, one of two presidents to be buried there. his brother is not so far away. any word on where senator kennedy will be buried? >> i do not have a location, but it had been the family plan to do two things to honor senator kennedy, lie in state at the capitol in massachusetts, and also that the u.s. capitol in washington, d.c. the sequence of events would be determined after the final resting place was determined. i expect we will hear something about this in the coming hours, but first, he will lay in state here, and then be moved down to

washington, d.c. of course, that will have to be approved by nancy pelosi. i can confirm that that will be occurring. i believe -- and correct me if i am wrong -- i believe his fourth brother is also at arlington national cemetery because he died in battle in world war ii. that would be among the most powerful images in american history of a family, political or otherwise, as one of the most cherished resting places. jon: the oldest brother was killed in world war ii.

thank you, major garrett. jane: nancy reagan was one of the first to send condolences to the kennedys this morning. she says people are often surprised at how close she and her late husband were. she said this in a statement -- jon: senator kennedy's influence felt not only in this country, but all over the globe. today several world leaders expressed their sadness and hearing. amy kellog is in london. >> prime minister gordon brown said that he would not be just more than america, but on every continent. that has proven to be the case. we have learned to read and heard from leaders all around

the world but the most detailed eulogies coming from the uk and ireland where the concrete troops of the late senator's laborers have been felt in the most detailed fashions. because senator kennedy passed away in the middle of the night in the u.s., it was already morning here, so we do not have hard copies of newspapers. but we obviously have the additions online that are making a quite -- and they are making a big deal about the passing. news here has been full of commentary about his life and legacy. he was given an honorary knighthood here, an honor given to foreign nationals for service to the united kingdom. that was on the urging of prime minister brown in march. that was part of his work in trying to cement the ireland

peace deal. we remember the hard work he did try to bring the parties together. of course, he was close to the irish catholic side, but he was also apparently very good at bringing some of the unionists together with a irish-americans. that is being talked about as an important part of the whole process. we heard today from the former ira leader. >> i remember him as someone who made a remarkable public contribution to the success of the peace process. he advocated a visa for gerry adams at a time when president clinton was being advised by the state department not to give him teh visa. the fact that he was able to convince president clinton that it was a good thing is evidence

of his impact. >> tony blair the former prime minister has also said that the u.k. had been against giving gerry adams the visa because cuba seen here as a murderer and would not be seen as something useful. in fact, the u.k. says that kennedy was proven right. that trip that he made to the u.s., his first time being seen as a politician as opposed to a terrorist, is being credited as one of the steps that brought the party together that ultimately led to the northern ireland peace process which is still in place, although at times tenuous. again, it is interesting that former spokespeople for leaders here in the u.k. admit that he was right about something that a time when it was extremely

controversial. jon: thank you. the line of the senate to be laid to rest at arlington national cemetery. you can learn much more on our website, foxnews.com. we have extensive coverage of this under there. you can find photo essays, videos, and an interactive timeline of his life. jane: we are waiting for comment from the lieutenant governor of south carolina. we expect him to call for mark sanford to resign. and jonathan serrie is watching this. what are we hearing? >> the story is unfolding as we speak the lieutenant governor's office sent out a news release announcing that he would be calling a press conference at noon today inside the state house.

a spokesperson for the lieutenant governor tells us that he is calling for the resignation of mark sanford, south carolina's and down governor. he has been under scrutiny since june since he went missing in action. no one knew for sure where he was, only for him to come back and announced that he had been having an affair with a woman in argentina, and that he had taken a trip to argentina although he told his staff he was hiking the appalachian trail. while this entered social conservatives within his party, he had for years been the darling of fiscal conservatives. many refer to him as governor wal-mart, because of this supposedly frugal ways, but even that has been unraveling amid regulations that he had flown

first traffic -- first-class on trips at the expense of the taxpayer for official travel. he is also under investigation for using state aircraft for personal and political trips. if stanford were to resign, lt. gov. bauer would restraint -- to fill the remainder of the term. lieutenant governor in power has said if this situation were to unfold, if he were to resign, bauer says that he would not seek reelection. gov. sanford office has no, but has indicated they will release some sort of statement later. we will keep you updated. jane: thank you. jon: we are going to take a live look at arlington national

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this, the track and latest advisories coming up. jane: we have been talking so much about the death of ted kennedy at the age of 77. so many triumphs and tragedies in his life. he even survived a plane crash in massachusetts in 1964. on board with him was a colleague and another young senator. his son evan bayh now serves in the senate. senator, thank you for joining me. talk about your members starting with the crash. >> my memory of ted kennedy go way back before the plane crash. when we first went to the senate together, elected in 1962, started serving together on the same day, i remember him as being as strong voice for

people's programs that were designed to help, whether they were young people who needed education, senior citizens who need drug benefits, the overall health care program, all those things that help people -- that is what i remember about ted kennedy. jane: we also heard from vice- president joe biden who said that you might expect his idealism would have peaked when he was younger, but it really did not. >> it certainly did not. he was just one of the consistent voices. one of the first words he spoke in the senate, to his last, was of the concern and a desire to deal with the unfinished business and our country. i remember the work we all did together as a member of the judiciary committee when we passed and the 64 voting rights

act, and then later, 65. that was a final chapter of the emancipation proclamation. a century later, he was the one leading the charge in that regard. jane: we have been hearing from some and colleagues on what they consider some of his greatest talents. senator gramm said his work was his bond. would you agree? >> that is correct. jane: something that some critics believe could be lacking today? >> i cannot speak about today, not having been in the senate for a while, but we were fortunate to serve at a time when there was a lot less anger, where you tried to do with the problem, not because it was republican or democrat, liberal or conservative, but because it was right for the american people.

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jon: in the wake of those tumultuous town halls we have all been seeing on tv and slipping public support for health-care reform, a lot of democratic activists are planning a grass roots push to drum up support before lawmakers get back to washington. organizing for america, part of the democratic national committee, is planning five of

them to cross the country between now and to tender eight. it is all to convince the public to send a message to washington to get behind reform. will it work? that is the question. let's talk about it with kirsten powers. we have a former media consultant, now ceo of new media strategy. an attempt to take back the megaphone from democrat to want to see the president's health care reform passed, right? >> definitely, but it seems a little late. i guess people just underestimated what barack obama would be able to do and they did not feel like they needed to be supporting him. republicans say that they are falling health care much more closely. with the town halls we saw so much passion from the right and not much from the left.

i thought democrats should have been showing up as well and expressing their feelings that we need a public option, we need reform. this could be too little, too late. jon: you are the media strategist. i know you represent the other side, but giving slipping support, can the dark -- democrats turn it around and make it go back north? >> i agree with kingston. i agree it is too little, too late. -- kirsten. i think it is funny when people talk about organizing grass- roots. nancy pelosi and even the president was derailing "astroturf" efforts, when the tea party movement was really an organic one. now they're trying to manufacture their own version of astroturf. the simple matter it is the passion of the people is not behind universal health care.

they do not want a government takeover of the system. it scares them. i am a former pollster, and this is the most passionate i have seen the republican base since 1994. jon: those deficit numbers cannot be helping. >> no, but there is no government takeover of health care. there is nothing to be afraid of. the public option will be very limited, if it even happens. while republicans may feel that way, many feel that when you take the public option off the table, democratic support for the health care plan plummets. there is support among democrats who are for the public option. without it, it may not be health care reform. >> the president put together the most ambitious reform of health care up there. if we only focus on those

uninsured, i am sure we can come to a solution, but a massive government takeover is not the answer. jon: thank you. jane: we have heard jonathan serrie refer to this, but now we know that's the lieutenant governor of north carolina is calling for mark sanford to resign. this is amid questions about his conduct since he admitted to having an extramarital affair. questions have also been raised about the legality of the troubles that he has paid for. now the lieutenant governor calling for the government to resign. we are waiting for a statement from the governor himself. jon: we are continuing to mark the passing of senator ted kennedy, the lion of the senate. we will continue to cover his legacy.

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>> look, the country has lost a great advocate. there are millions of people who counted on this guy every day to stand up for them. for decades to come, people will talk about his legislative accomplishments and indifferent teammate in public policy. i lost my best friend in the senate. he was here often, right here on this river. it has been a long year, even three months. he died peacefully at about 11:30. he fought like a lion to stay alive this past year. she talked about the mental health parity being done, national service bill being done. we marked up the health committee bill on july 15.

sorry we have not gotten the bill done yet. so his presence over the last year has had great value. his spirit had been there during all these debates. although he was not there to cast votes, his presence was felt, as it will be in the coming days. for me, it is a great loss of a great friend and a great advocate for people. it is like losing a brother. i lost my sister one month ago and i feel this pain almost as much. thank you. >> there was a report about him being buried in arlington. >> i will let the family speak to that. i would prefer if they responded. >> [inaudible] >> i am doing better every day. two weeks ago i had surgery.

i have a great health care advocate next to me, and a couple more this morning. i decided, what could i do to do to talk about being alive? so we took our son to pick some berries this afternoon. life is not a dress rehearsal. you take every day and live it to the fullest and maximize your time here on earth. >> how did you meet senator kennedy? >> i cannot even remember. i do not remember not knowing him. he had the burden of serving with my father and me in the senate. he served with my father from 1962 to 1971. i was elected in 1974, so we had

known about each other. our great friendship developed when i arrived in the senate. it has just been a great french ship on every level. i do not know of any -- i have a lot of good friends. i do not know anyone as loyal as teddy was to his friends. when my sister passed the one month ago, one of the first phone calls i got was from teddy. two weeks ago i came out of surgery and my first phone call, teddy. he said, welcome to the club, talking about cancer. he also had some choice comments about having prostate cancer. the humor of the guy in tough moments -- that was the type of friend he could be. he made you laugh when you done

that you could not tolerate it. >> will we see another senator like him? >> they have not until now. i think history books will pay him the kind of due and time. he will wear well, historically. and there will be quite a bit written about him in the coming years. i'm going to miss him. we had a great time together. we sat next to each other on thie committee for years. but i am really going to mess is that personal friendship. >> would you like to share a story about your friendship, something that would stick in your mind? >> no, we have just known him

for so long. we spend time here. i remember driving one time with him. we came up joshua town road in the fall. he said, this is the prettiest road in america. those of you in the area no what we are talking about. he would just come up with a comment like that. we would be in the middle of the ocean, he would be my own the audience, and he was banging on the ship about health care, medicare. he said -- i said, i am the only audience, you do not need to yell. but his passion was so deep. never once did i ever see a phoney bone in his body when it came to caring about people.

my love for him what the on the personal, because it was a deep commitment to public service and public life, as his family has done. the loss of eunice was pretty tragic. ironically, we lost sisters closely to each other. he struggled at the very end. mrs. kennedy said that the only day that he spent all day in bed was yesterday. he passed peacefully late last night. >> talk about his role in the irish peace process. >> he made a huge difference. if it had not been for teddy, as the ambassador to ireland, it may not have happened. it may have happened eventually, but not with the

pace and intensity and commitment. of course, president bill clinton deserves a great deal of advice -- a great deal of praise for taking the advice and making the suggestion to him that he should grant to a visa to gerry adams. then that opened up a floodgate for the front accords that has brought about what we have seen occur in ireland. >> [inaudible] >> it would be hard to say. he cared deeply about civil- rights, health issues. issue after issue -- i guess his biggest issue does not fit into any category. it was people in the shadows.

people who do not have lawyers, lobbyists, people who do not have advocates. he would say, i do not this respect those that do have advocates, but it is our job to stand up for those who do not have the ability to get anybody. his biggest issue for those millions of people. everyone, at some point in their lives, need an advocate. you would never get a better one than him. jane: chris dodd speaking in connecticut. they were considered very good friends in the senate. as he mentioned, senator kennedy fought this battle with cancer with dignity and remained committed to the causes he served until the end of his life, not only in the senate, but with ordinary americans as well. brian wilson has more. >> we are starting to hear more

reaction. let's start with the vice- president joe biden who served alongside kennedy for 37 years. >> today, we lost a truly memorable man. to paraphrase shakespeare, i do not think we shall never see his like again. i think the legacy he left is not just in the landmark legislation he passed, but in how he helped people look at themselves and look at one another. >> dianne feinstein today said that he was irreplaceable. nancy pelosi called him a great patriot. jane: republicans of course have clashed with him in the logically but many of them the enemy liked the man. >> turn to no one else but orrin

hatch. he is one of the most conservative people in the senate, but they were great friends. he said with all of his verbosity and idealism, he was a rare person that could put aside differences to look for common solutions. and remember, former president george w. bush worked with him on the no child left behind legislation. today the former president said that he loved his family and his country and he served them until the very end. jane: thank you. jon: major garrett has more information on the plans for senator kennedy's funeral services. there will be a service in boston and will lay interpose before his burial at arlington national cemetery. no word on whether or not he

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jon: the cia's inspector general speaking out over allegations against vice-president cheney. apparently he tried to influence the ig nerve in an investigation into the interrogation program. the inspector says it never happened. catherine herridge is with us in washington. so what did the inspector say, why is it so important? >> the former cia director said he met with dick cheney during the course of the investigation to brief him, and he said there was no effort by mr. cheney to steer his work in one direction or another. despite what you have read

elsewhere, he writes -- he also says it was unusual to brief the vice-president on this report but due to the sensitivity of the report, he said it was important that the executive branch had the same information that congress was being briefed on. jon: it was controversial from the beginning. was his work obstructed by anyone along the way? >> i asked him not specifically and he said, no, i did not feel like there was any obstruction put up by the agency. those directly involved were apprehensive to route. he goes on to say --

based on the report, some caa employees were anxious about report for obvious reasons, and wanted to be sure that someone must vetting what they were doing so that they could cover future risk, which is understandable. jon: thank you. jane: we want to get to some developments over the concern of muammar al-qaddafi. he is set to speak at the nine nations. where will he be estate -- stain? >> the libyan u.n. mission owns a home in new jersey, and al- qaddafi wants to pitch a tent on the front lawn. he says he wants to come to englewood where many of the families lived from the lockerbie bombing. remember, they just let that

terrorist go because he is dying with kantor. people are very sensitive over this issue. in fact, the governor of new jersey is issuing this statement -- he goes on to say -- of course, the governor talking about al-megradhi. he said, i have no tolerance for this. that is from germany -- gov. john corzine. if he tried to go to new york, that will be a problem for him, too, because we're bloomberg has already said that he cannot sleep in central park.

jon: we have been talking about the passing of that kennedy. he died overnight, brain cancer finally catching up with him. one of the most liberal members of the senate but many republicans have words of praise for this longtime leader. we will be speaking to kit bond. . . ?7wwww

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>> to vie for working kamins in his home state. -- to fight for working families in his home state. jon: tell us some of the personal stories. did you argue politics? did you talk family? >> we talked families. i have the opportunity to talk to him many times.

the thing that sticks in my mind the most, i presented an amendment and he gave a speech in opposition. i gave a rousing speech in rebuttal. everybody thought it was really he did. after it was over, we have the vote. i clapped him on the back. he left. we exchanged pleasantries. i told him that he made up efffacts and i made up facts and he agreed. we disagreed on many issues, but we worked together on many issues. he is a gentleman in the congress. i think everybody who knew him would know that. surprisingly, the most friendly and generous people around are the ones province apart.

-- are the ones the farthest apart. you can disagree with them, but they're always generous and courteous. my work with ted kennedy on issues where we agreed, he was a great ally. when he was on the other side, he was very formidable, but we always got along. jon: we have seen pictures with some of the more conservative leaders. ronald reagan always admired him. >> he would say you could be adversaries on the senate floor, but still friends. statesmanship and bipartisanship. frankly, we are lacking a bit of that now. you could work with him.

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