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everyone has come to have to pitch in. >> here is no surprise, rush limbaugh did not like what the congresswoman had to say. >> represented to betsy markey told a gathering of constituents that some people will have to give it a chance to fix the system. >> no one is one to suffer any benefit cuts. but here are the democrats running around. there have to be. folks, medicaid and. he is also a doctor.

>> people are going to revolt of that what happens. >> they have the votes. he can do it. he does not have to listen to you. why should they really care if they really felt passionate about this bill. >> let's see if they really do have the votes. and we have to u.s. senators that will vote against this bill.

it is up to you to make sure that your other senator also votes against it. there are others that are concerned about voting for this, especially with what is going on economically. we do not have -- we are looking at a mountain of debt. some recipients will have to help reform the medical benefits. >> she is talking about a medical bill that has 33 new entitlements. this is a huge expansion and it is not meant to do this. you talk about rationing care,

this is a continuation of the rational and -- the rationing. >> why would she do that? is it a slip, what happened there. >> maybe she had a moment when she saw what others saw. the people are going to lose benefits. people are going to lose benefits. at one moment they say they are not going to lose it if you like it, and they said they will eliminate medicaid its advantage. there are 11 million people on medicare advantage and it does some things to coordinate care and to help with preventive care and it deals with the issues that seniors care about. those 11 million seniors did not want to lose what they have. >> they say that gop leaders did not want health care reform.

? >> there is a lot that needs to be fixed. >> there is a lot that is wrong? >> there is a lot that is wrong. i want to get the prices down. president old, voted against that. he voted against individuals who get their own insurance to get the same benefits that big companies get. we need tort reform and lawsuit abuse. it is nowhere in any of the bills. there are tests of that are ordered. >> they're not going to bill the president? >> not at all. >> thank you, sir. >> up next, a twisted and very disturbing mystery, a couple accused of holding a little girl prisoner. that is only the beginning.

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the accused said he is innocent. you're going to be really impressed. she is now 29 and free. john, it is hard to believe. take me back to 1991. what happened at the time this child was kidnapped. >> she was on her way to catch a bus and was walking up a hill in front of their house and her stepfather was out front and saw

a car pulled down the street, swing around and then head back up the hill. the car cut her off and the woman reached out and grabbed her in a spinoff and he took off on his bike to try to catch them, but there was no way he could peddle of hill fast enough. -- uphill fast enough. >> was anybody under the suspicion? was anyone a fall suspect at that time? >> at times, he was thought to be a suspect. i do not know how seriously police took him as a suspect, but members of his own family thought he was the last person to see her. a private investigator investigated him and led to the breakup of his marriage. they are still married, but separated. the whole kidnapping has ruined their lives since then. >> saddest -- fast forward till now.

where are they tonight? >> they are in jail. their house is in antioch, witches several hundred miles -- which is 100 miles from lake tahoe. that rose suspicion of campus police. he had these two little girls with him dressed like they were from little house on the prairie and behaving like robots. a campus police officer noticed their behavior and did a background check and noticed he was on parole and the parole officers said that he does not have kids. that is when the suspicions took off. >> every single fact about this

story that we are hearing is horrible. it is being reported that two of the children that this man fathered, has actually been verified by the police or is that what people are saying? >> that is what they are saying. there is no questioning that. she was kidnapped when she was 11 and when she was 14, she gave birth to their first daughter and then four years later, gave birth to her second child. >> were they living in the backyard of this couple's house? >> they will living in a backyard within a back yard. it was a crazy, falls back to the backyard. there was a fence with a lot of junk with trees up against it and then a tarp covered a little hole. if you crawled through that part, there was a soundproofed

outbuilding that was only open from the outside were one would presume they were kept. there was a shower and they lived their entire lives there. the kids were born there and they never went to a hospital and they have never seen a doctor and had never been to school. they have hardly been out of that compound except for a few field trips. thank you. he did business with the accused kidnapper. when was the last time you were inside the house? >> i was in the house a long time ago. i would call and come over here and i would meet her by the gate. she would come out and talk to me and we did our business in a matter of five or 10 minutes.

i believe that the last time i met her was about by 1.5 months ago. >> let me back up. the guy that is in custody is in some type of [unintelligible] at the house, i assume you saw his wife and the girl would come out to the fence? >> she was in charge of doing all my work. she was doing all the graphic design and sending me proofs and stuff like that. she was the person behind the scenes, running a printing press. >> did anything seem weird to you? >> not really. at the time, she was introduced to me as his daughter and he said that he was running a family business so i did not see anything wrong with that.

his wife was there and there were two young girls that were introduced as his two younger daughters. i did not see anything weird, other than that he did not entertain any friends or anybody at his house. he did not encourage anyone to come into the backyard. he was kind of a religious fanatic so they do not like to associate with other people and they feel like they are better than everybody. i felt that there was nothing wrong with that, so i did not see anything weird. >> what was this printing business that he had? how big was it? >> i have no idea. as far as i'm concerned, what ever work i gave them, they handled it very nicely and very professionally and very neatly. >>over the years, i have referrd

him to some of my associates and others in the business. i said that this is the guy that they would get a good job from and pay a reasonable amount. >> thank you, very much. pay a reasonable amount. greta: thank you very much. >> thank you. greta: nevada is running greta: nevada is running television ads comparing

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>> and there is like $1 million. there is a total waste of money. because it will draw lot of attention to the state. >> actually, it is funny. nevada is a 12.5 unemployment rate. businesses can move from california to nevada that has no income tax. every business in california knows that. they know that nevada has no income tax. >> maybe they drag this out of the basement.

the psychological impact of this economy will help us. " they have the most amazing regulatory. you cannot do business anymore in california. the tree to like your an enemy of the state. in nevada, the role of the red carpet for us. nevada will come back, i am not so sure about california. i blame a culture of liberalism for 40 years in sacramento. they simply will not get the government under control.

they have huge pension problems and huge problems with the labor unions. they are driving out their wealth producers because they feel like those people are the atm machines. i think california is in big trouble if they do not do something about this. >> arnold's schwarzenegger has this tax reform commission which could be a big deal. >> i think that the odds are funny and i think it is funny. california really is in deep trouble. if you really deal with the high taxes, people will leave you lose your income base. >> things are so bad that surfboard companies had to move out of come -- california. if you cannot even make surf boards in california and boston on >--

california starts this fiscal year with another deficit. who would want to be the next governor. >> back state has so many problems. >> now, for two nights on the record lightboat. we are talking to parties. goed to gretawire.com. do you think the parties are having an impact? yes or no? we will tell you the results at the end of the show. up next, bernie madoff is accused of bilking people of millions. plus, outrages growing.

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watching tonight's launch. we now had back on the record rector on fox. greta: and north korean ship carrying weapons bound for iran has been seized by the uae. this violates a resolution by the u.n. and included rocket propelled grenade and missile launchers. the items were destroyed. bernie madoff's mistress is talking. he is behind bars. apparently he told lies to his wife. his mistress has written a book. earlier, she went on the record. nice to meet you. you have a book, you were the

other secret. what is thhow did you first meet him? >> we met in a business meeting. there was a major donor and part of the stimulatiostipulation wat would be held by bernie madoff. it was a meeting to figure out the logistics. greta: in the book you talk about an affair with bernard madoff. that did not start off as professional. >> no, it started off as professional and then it became physical in nature after five years. greta: were you infatuated with him were interested in him? >> well, he was with me. he made it very clear that he would like to take it further.

i made it clear that at that point that there was not really -- i was not really into that. i was not interested in having at a fair. gret-- an affair. greta: why was this okay? you had worked with him for five years and then you had an affair. you certainly did it, i understand you have remorse but at the time. >> at the time, i was having problems with my husband penn to my life can check -- i was having problems with my husband. my life was changing. greta: what would you say about

bernie madoff in 1995? >> i would say he was a good friend. if i had a problem, i would feel comfortable calling him. greta: you have lost personal money. >> i lost money. greta: you were wiped out > >> yes. greta: what do you think of him? >> i think that he should not be among normal human beings. i think he should be kept in a cage behind bars. i think that he cared for no one. greta: were you in love with him? >> no, there's no place for to go. greta: why do you write in your

book that you lost your entire fortune? >> that would be an exaggeration. greta: you lost your family members, your apartment, your investments. you took on enormous financial hit. you don't say the amount. >> because it really doesn't matter what you of lost. what matters is that you have lost. some people have lost $100, if this was their last money, does this make any more or less important than someone who lost a million dollars? greta: when you stood in court to make your statement, did you look at him? >> i would have but his back was to us. greta: so he was not looking at you?

>> no, he had his back to us. i think he is sorry he got caught. greta: there are stories that he is sick. is this true? >> i hope he is not. i want him to lift a long life in prison. -- live a long life in prison. greta: there is nothing in you that feel sorry for him? >> there was a moment that he was overwhelmed during sentencing. he did not have his wife or children or anyone there. no one had written a letter for him. at that moment, there was a bit of pity that i felt. the other feelings overwhelms that little bit of pity i felt. greta: did you see the pictures of ruth madoff after she got

thrown off of her -- out of her apartment? >> yes, i did. greta: what did you think? >> i don't feel sorry for her. i think that part of her ignored the situation. she benefited from a lot of other people's money. greta: and do you have any reason to know or to think -- any indication that she was part of this or was aware of it and look to the other way? >> i don't have any true knowledge but if i was to give an opinion, i would say that she looked the other way. greta: what makes you say that? >> because she was a financial person.

nothing got by her. she was involved in this business for a long time. i do feel that when everything said and done, this has started a long time ago. greta: how do you think he is going to do? >> well, he is managing. i read he had cancer. i don't know how much credibility that anyone can put into we are reading. greta: do you hate him? >> yes. he stole my family. he stole my dreams. he still dreams for all of these people. he was an equal opportunity destroyer. it was about him and histamines and morality and everything else paid second chorafiddle.

-- it was about him and his needs. greta: up next, people want to keep muammar qaddafi from pitching his tent in new jersey. pitching his tent in new jersey. hoveround power chair? the statue of liberty? the grand canyon? it's all possible with a hoveround. tom: hi i'm tom kruse, inventor and founder of hoveround. when we say you're free to see the world, we mean it. call today and get a free hoveround information kit that includes a video and full color brochure. dennis celorie: "it's by far the best chair i've ever owned." and if you qualify get it for little or no money. jim plunkitt: "no cost. absolutely no cost to me." breaking news...when you call today, we'll include

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greta: the libyan president muammar qaddafi is coming to the united states. he is speaking in less than one month at the u.n.. during his trip, he had planned to stay in new jersey. he had expected to pitch his bedouin tent.

people are angry about his trip because of a celebration that was given in this country for the bomber of lockerbie. there is news, muammar qaddafi will not be going to new jersey. the property is not allowed to be used. this could be your destiny if you cheat on your wife. a woman in new jersey came up with an interesting punishment. he has to stand in a busy shopping center that says "i cheated, this is my punishment." he thought his wife was kidding. guess who was having a garage sale, arnold schwarzenegger. this is to generate revenue for the state. he's selling everything from cars, computers.

the sale kicked off at a warehouse in sacramento. customers were greeted by a terminator mannequin. now, the results from the vote. you went to our website and answered this question, do you think that tea parties are having an impact? 98% of you said yes, 2% know. -- 2% no. we will have all the latest next week. up next, senator ted kennedy's and friends and family gathered for his memorial service. chris dodd, or hatch, john mccain in their own words. mccain in their own words. .

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senator john mccain, a vice- president biden and many more. >> there was this one star hanging low in the sky that was just bigger than all the rest and brighter than all the rest with a twinkle and a sparkle, louder than all the others. i know it was jupiter, but it was acting a lot like teddy. i admired his passions with the dole work of legislating and his uncanny sense for when

differences could be bridged. >> to fight the unbeatable foe to bear with unbearable sorrow >> to years ago when i've been coming out of surgery, i got a call from teddy. between going for prostate cancer surgery and doing town hall meetings, you made a great choice. >> the tool of, pure and chased from afar to try when your arms are too weary >> people have called teddy in the the odd couple, which was certainly true. there are few men with him i have had less in common. >> other times, in committee, in

the floor or in the press, teddy would lay in to me with the harshest liberal rhetoric you could imagine, but just minutes later, he would come over and put his arm around me and has callie did. >> loves makes fools of everyone in the rules we make our broken >> thank you for being with us tonight. we will see you all again on monday night. don't forget to go to gretawire.com. don't forget the greta wire form and it is debate and talk nonstop through the night and the weekend. i will be blogging with you all weekend, so do not miss out. we will see you monday night. until then, keep it right here on fox news