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those people and say, how did you do it? instead, they are out there threatening to disbar the lawyers who gave us the legal opinions, threatening contrary to what president originally said. bill: that is just the beginning of a fascinating interview. we will relive some of that today. welcome to you. patti ann: dick cheney defending the enhanced interrogation techniques saying that it protected the american lives in the eight years since 9/11. bill: he said that he supports waterboarding, saying that it saved countless american lives our washington managing editor joins us now. good morning to you. what an interview. how will these comments affect the national debate, do you

believe? >> it was quite an interview. it was dick cheney unleashed. it was quite substantive. i think to answer your question, we have to look back at the last time dick cheney weighed in this wholeheartedly on national- security issues. remember we had those dueling speeches by barack obama and dick cheney on the same day? most people that assessed those first round -- that first round of a standoff came away with the feeling that dick cheney had won round one. we will have to see whether he wins round two. by him bringing up these issues, i think it has a lot of people thinking whether the obama administration is continuing to take this nation of its war footing, whether it is by appointing a prosecutor or whether it is by pointing this new interagency task force out of the white house to be in

charge of interrogating high- value detainee's. i think people are starting to think that is thinking -- taking us off of the war footing. bill: what he said numerous times is that president obama gave his word that he would not go here or even dare predict what changed in washington to allow it to happen? >> i actually dug up the quote back from april. remember when the obama administration declassified some cia memos that detailed these interrogation techniques? at that time, both president obama and eric holder said publicly, we do not have any interest investigating cia agents. obama even said, they do not have to get lawyered up. now they are looking backward. the white house is trying to put out is, the president does not

really want to do that, but he has to let his intrepid attorney-general follow the law. the reality is that the attorney general is the president's employees. as dick cheney said, the president of the united states is the chief law-enforcement officer in the country. if he thinks this is a bad investigation, he could certainly stop it. bill: thank you to fritzsche -- thank you for that. we will talk about the division of power between the attorney general and the white house. for more on the exclusive interview, and to our website. under that dick cheney had line, you can click on links to watch the entire interview. you can watch it or read it right now. patti ann: new video of the lockerbie bomber in a libyan hospital. he's wearing an oxygen mask as

he answers questions from a british journalist. the scottish justice secretary said that he released him on compassionate grounds. the british government is denying claims that a push for the deal in order to push a -- in order to seal a oil deal with libya. bill: a brand new search about to be conducted at the home of the of doctor of jaycee lee dugard. investigators now combing the backyard. that is where the police say this young woman was held captive for all of those years. officers are using shovels and chainsaws to make their way through a labyrinth of tents in that backyard where she and her two children believed to be fathered by the abductor were kept.

patti ann: a massive wildfire turns deadly in california. two firefighters were killed. their vehicle rolled down a mountainside. it happened just north of los angeles. here is what we know right now. the fire is only about 5% contained. at least 12,000 homes are threatened. mandatory evacuation orders in effect for neighborhoods of glendale and other smoke filled areas. crucial tv, radio, cell phone, and astronomy centers also at risk. there are four fires burning in and around it wausau angeles. -- in and around los angeles. joining us now on the phone is our felli.

so far, we have at least two firefighters dead. how much outside assistance are they getting? how much -- what is it like for these firefighters? >> personnel assigned to this assignment is about 2200. they are from all different jurisdictions. county, municipal, state agencies, as well as federal agencies. it is a very cooperative and a large effort involving many entities. patti ann: we have three civilians and burned and injures. -- and injured. governor schwarzenegger stressed the importance of following evacuation orders. are those evacuation orders being followed? >> do the best of my knowledge, they are being followed well.

most of them have obeid the evacuation orderss. it is very important when the sheriff or the fire official asked you to evacuate, that you do so. try not to do anything that would get you in a tough situation. patti ann: 12,000 more homes are threatened. do you believe that most of these will be saved? >> that is certainly our primary objective. we will try to limit the amount of destruction that you get. we will keep that number as low as possible. that is paramount, as well as safety of life and safety of the public that we serve. patti ann: we have ash falling on cars as far away as los angeles. are people having breathing problems?

>> the error has not been very good year for the past several days. the weather patterns have held the smoke close to the ground. patti ann: hopefully we can keep this contained close to the ground. bill: president obama's push for health-care reform getting almost no support from republicans. now some cardiologists are concerned about the health care you might be offered soon. patti ann: funerals to be held today for to virginia tech students found dead last week. our police close to making an arrest? bill: more on the exclusive interview with the former vice president dick cheney. why he thinks the white house is putting american lives in danger. >> it is an outrageous thing that well and do great damage

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bill: back to our top story now. the former vice president dick cheney accusing the obama administration of undermining national security. dick cheney slamming the justice department's decision to investigate cia interrogators during the bush years. >> i guess the other thing that offends the hell out of me is we had a track record of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualties attacks by al qaeda. the approach of the obama administration should be to say, how did you do it? what were the keys to keeping the country safe? instead, they're threatening to

disbar the lawyers to give as legal opinions, threatening contrary to what the president originally said. bill: a senior writer for "the weekly standard" joins us. he also wrote a book about dick cheney. a good morning. >> good morning. bill: i thought that comment was the most personal. why don't you ask us what we did right over the past eight years? >> i had the same impression that you did. back in 2004 when vice-president cheney and vice president bush were -- and president bush war running for reelection, they were arguing that they should make precisely that case to the voters. he thought as far back as 2004, they should say that we have kept the nation say for three years. this is something that matters to the voters. what does not surprise me is that he would continue to make

that case now. bill: what he is saying is, give us some credit. >> absolutely. i think that is right. he is not apologetic about how they did it. he strongly favors the use of these enhanced interrogation techniques. it was clear to dick cheney from september 11 on word that his main responsibility was keeping the nation safe and he was willing to do things that many regard as controversial. i think now when he is out of office, he can say, we did these things, we took these risks. these were difficult decisions and you have to judge us as successful because they did not suffer another mass casualty attack. bill: if you prosecute those who carry out the interrogations', he says, you will send a terrible -- set a terrible precedent for administrations to come. explain that. >> i think what he's saying is

this is essentially a political decision by eric holder to go back in reexamine questions that had already been decided by career prosecutors at the department of justice. we have a terrific piece and "the weekly standard" that lays out how far these career prosecutors had gone in looking at these issues and decided against prosecuting. eric holder, simply because he has a different opinion than the career prosecutors, decides to essentially target these cia personnel who have made difficult decisions in a really difficult context. we have the hindsight of seven years here. these were questions that were answered when we thought that there were -- and there were imminent attacks, potentially, against the united states. it looks increasingly political. bill: what dick cheney is saying that the pressure from the left is forcing the white house.

eric holder is the leading law enforcement officer in the country. in turn, the attorney general would go after these interrogators. is it the pressure from the left? why would it be, as dick cheney states, the president obama said, we are not going to go there? >> i do think that there is a tremendous amount of political pressure from the left, not just on this issue, but on health care and many other issues. i think that there may be some truth to this idea that president obama does not want to be looking back at these issues. if he does and if his political advisers think that this was a good political move, i think it would be in for a rude awakening. it would be disingenuous to say that this was just eric holder's decision. there was a speech given back in june, 2008, in which eric holder accused bush administration officials of conducting torture. he talked about warrantless wiretapping. he said in the speech, "we owe

the american people the reckoning." it was pretty clear for some time that eric holder was determined to investigate these things. it is very disingenuous. bill: one more thing here. what dick cheney said was that this had been gone over at great length. if that was the case and we have already gone over this and the justice department, will they find anything now or will this lead anywhere? >> if you look at it -- people who i've talked to who s in the classified reports say that there is some rough stuff in there. there are difficult things to read and hear about. however, they haven't looked at. even within the program, there were three points at which somebody could say these were abuses that we heard about.

those people have already been disciplined. he is looking at issues were the full record has been investigated and in most cases, punishment has already been meted out. bill: thank you, stephen hays. we will take a look at the separation between the attorney general and the white house, if there is any. patti ann: an unlikely suspect leads police on a frightening high-speed chase. what was so unusual about the driver and how the cops finally brought him down? bill: police stepping up their manhunt for the murder of a couple of virginia tech students. >> they had just come here to parker and were sitting there, probably talking. >> just to summarize it, it is

brutal.

bill: it does happen again. a 9-year-old boy leading police on a high-speed chase using his parents' car. four law enforcement agents covered 10 or 15 miles. only when it was over did they realize that a child was behind the wheel. that is greenfield, indiana. the boy was swerving all over the road, at times reached speeds of 80 m.p.h. no one was hurt, luckily. the boy told police that he stole his mother skis because he was upset about being told that he had to come in for the night. patti ann: the cops thought that they were chasing a drunk

driver. bill: he is not even waiting until he is 16. high dickies. -- hide the keys. patti ann: funeral services will be held for two virginia tech sophomores who were murdered in jefferson national forest. police are looking for a person of interest. laura? >> investigators believe the victims were in the wrong place at the wrong time, hanging out in a gravel parking lot overlooking a beautiful field of wildflowers when it happened. david lee metzler was majoring in systems engineering and -- at virginia tech. her father was a virginia state police sgt. investigators have been coming through the area.

the couple was found around 8:00 a.m. last week -- last thursday. it is a very popular campground with virginia tech students. it is just 15 miles from campus. it is a site that is not known for crime or violence. >> it is shocking just to summarize it, it is brutal. >> back-to-back funerals will be held for the couple today. the investigation moves on. those who live nearby campsite happen question and, as family members, loved ones, and virginia tech students try to come to grips with what has been described as a random act. >> virginia tech students are being encouraged to talk to friends and counselors. the montgomery county sheriff's office is asking anyone with information to call them. back to you. patti ann: thank-you for that

report. bill: police are seizing one dozen dangerous pythons from a guy who was selling them, now facing charges. wait until you hear where he was selling them that led to his arrest. patti ann: vice-president dick cheney voicing serious doubts about the obama's administration's efforts to keep the country safe. we will have more from the vice president in his own words in our exclusive. let us know what you think. go to our website. you can leave your comments there. you can tell us if you think whether politics are driving the cia probe.

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subject to be prosecuted by the next administration, no one is going to be signing up for those kinds of missions. it is a very devastating effect that it has on more raúl inside the intelligence community. patti ann: we will have much more on this developing story straight ahead. bill: we have exclusive reaction from the report released to the international atomic energy commission. it is charged with investigating nuclear sites around the world, including iran. israel says that it is not telling everything about iran. brett baier sat down for an exclusive interview with the israeli president, shimon peres. >> iran is the number-one threat for israel. israel's presidents says that iran is definitely trying to

make a nuclear weapon, at least by the intelligence they have looked at here in israel. shimon peres is telling me that there are moves underway to prepare, saying that they cannot allow israel to move forward with iran getting a nuclear weapon. he says that iran is the only united nations member that has called for the discretion of another united nations member, is real burden as we walked through the presidential guard and in this interview, shimon peres said to me that the challenge is for israel to try to make iran the world's problem, not just israel's problem. at the same time, israel is preparing. they also have been testing the antiballistic missile systems and have sent warships to the suez canal. president shimon fraise says that -- shimon peres says that the clock is ticking.

>> how long does israel believe that it will take a run to get a nuclear weapon? >> it is shorter than what is thought. >> do you have any confidence in the international atomic energy agency? >> no. facts are stronger than institutions. institutions should not lag behind reality. >> he and other administration officials say that the world should focus on iran's long- range missile program. there is still hope that cutting off oil and gas supplies and financing could move forward, but there is a lot of doubt that all of the western allies will come together. diplomats from britain, france,

china, russia, and the united states, they are meeting later this week to talk about possible sanctions. israel will be all ears with them. bill: thank you for that, brett. you can check out that exclusive interview with israeli president shimon peres later tonight at 6:00. if thank you, brett. patti ann: president obama's health-care overhaul has the backing of the american medical association. cardiologists say that hard and cancer doctors -- harkin cancer doctors are set to lose millions of dollars if certain changes to medicare go through. the rule would cut -- would cut payments to some specialists and a redirect that money to family doctors. thank you for joining us.

43% of all medicare is spent on cardiovascular-related care. it would mean cuts of more than 40%. what impact would this have on life-saving cardiology services? >> the impact of this could be devastating. we have been focused on reform. we get increased access and better quality of care the rule was like a mack truck that was driven into the waiting rooms of cardiologists are around the country. patti ann: critics say that the unintended consequence would be rationing of care. do you agree? >> i think access to care could be dramatically impacted. if you can imagine a 40% cut in the budget to deliver fox news 120 days from now, it is impossible for practices to continue to deliver the care

that they are used to deliver in the community. patti ann: the cuts would be to cancer care, things like chemotherapy. the obama administration wants to shift these funds to preventative care. is there any validity to the strategy of changing emphasis, as they say? >> i think the instinct to focus on prevention is absolutely the right one, but primary-care doctors, as good as they are, cannot possibly render care for everyone. cardiologists have contributed to a 27% drop in death and disability from heart disease over the past seven to 10 years. more patients are living. they are older, more complex, and they require a lot of sophistication for management. it requires a team of primary care and specialists. think about how terrifying it would be to get a diagnosis of

cancer and not have access to a doctor that you need. patti ann: there is talk of doctors refusing to see medicare patients entirely or even closing their cardiology practices. could this lead to a doctor shortage? >> absolutely. mclear shortage that we have in primary care to specialists is certainly not a wise strategy. from an individual cardiologists standpoint, this represents a sophie's choice of taking care of the patients that you want to take care of for keeping your door opened. this is an untenable choice. patti ann: medicare is government-run health care. do you see parallels between this issue and the obama administration's health care reform initiative? >> this was a misstep by cms. the formula that they use was flawed. it has a lot of methodological flaws. we're asking that they pause,

not institute this and 123 days. review that methodology and improve it. patti ann: is there talk of doing that, holding back, and may be revisiting this issue? is there momentum for this idea? >> we are hopeful. we know that the survey had very few respondents. we know that cms is chock full of good people trying to do the right thing. there has been an outcry from cardiologists and their patients that this was an unintended consequence. i'm very hopeful that this will be set aside. patti ann: thank you for joining us. bill: breaking news in california. massive wildfires burning out of control near los angeles. 6:38 in the morning. in some places, it is only 5% compared -- only 5% contained. we're live in the fire line as the sun dawns on a dangerous day. patti ann: tropical storm danny

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investors today. stocks are open for business. patti ann: checking on some of the major headlines, in afghanistan, the top u.s. commander said in his new assessment to the pentagon. reporting that the situation is serious, but success is achievable with a new strategy. he did not ask for more troops. that could come soon. in brazil, french investigators want to conduct a new search for parts of an air france jet, including the flight data recorder. the project could cost tens of millions of dollars. the plane crashed over the atlantic ocean three months ago, killing everyone on board. former alaska governor sarah palin is scheduled to speak at an investors' forum in hong kong in september. disch -- this marks her first ever commercial speaking engagement.

bill: tough decision for the coast guard now, calling up their search for a 12-year-old boy who disappeared in rough search -- in rough surf. he was swept away by just a few feet of water in corolla, north carolina. a representative from the coast guard is on the telephone right now. >> it is really not a good does it -- an easy decision. this case occurred on friday. i spoke with the father as recently as last night. i want to say that our hearts and prayers go out to the family. this is a horrible ordeal for any family to have to go through. bill: one of the perplexing thing is is that the waves were fairly calm. how in the world did you figure

that out if there is a dangerous record that can kill you? >> there were warnings out. the serve was between 3 feet and four feed along the beach. one of the things about drowning, they call it the silent killer. it is so fast. usually, you do not get an indication whether it is in the ocean or in a swimming pool. bill: was there a lifeguard on duty in this area? >> there were lifeguards in the area. i am not sure if there was one in the immediate vicinity of where he was. within a few minutes of this according, the ocean beach rescue had brought extra lifeguards on the scene and had between 8 and 10 people riding the records out. they were trying to see if they could find him. bill: good effort, sir. thank you for your time.

our heart goes out to the family of the victim. thank you for your time. we want to know, with the summer months continuing, if you get caught in a recurrent if there things that you can do. a former new york city police diver joins us. how're you doing? you did this for a living? >> yes, i did. bill: if in doubt, don't go out. easier said than done. >> just like the commander said, there is no real warning. it could look, and it could look fine. the occurrence start moving -- as the water moves, things can change the shifting sand can change transported like you said, stay calm. bill: some suggest that you can

wear polarized sunglasses to see the way that the current are moving. >> they help in certain situations on the water. one of the things you can do is, before entering the water, you can try to look at the water motion. sometimes if there is somebody in the water, you can see the water pushing them down the beach. you can see which way the waves are pushing. there are times when i have gotten in the water and you can actually feel it gets stronger in certain areas. bill: it is hard with a 3 foot waves. you think it is a nice day to be at the beach. one thing they're recommend, think of it like a treadmill that pulls you out and literally, you step off of once you are out on the record. how do you teach that? >> it is difficult to actually teach. we want to educate everybody that when they get caught in currants, the one thing you do

not want to do is try to swim against the current. you want to swim diagonally along with it. if you are getting pulled off to shore and the current is pulling you, you want to swim on a diagonal toward the shore. bill: we heard from the coast guard, stay calm. i am thinking if that is the first time you ever experienced that, how do you stay calm? i would be breathing heavy. i would want to be out of that. i would have some fear. >> it is. even as inexperienced person, when you get taken by surprise, you do start to think, what is happening? you have to come down. you have to try to look through it and go with the service. bill: if you tread water, eventually that record is going to take you out only so far and you will be able to get out of it. what if you are watching a family member or a friend being

taken out to sea? what advice do you give that person on land? >> first, you want to keep an eye on that individual. you want to make sure that you have some sort of flotation device to bring with you you can get tired yourself. it becomes very difficult. now you have to victims in the water. instead of one, now you have to. you want to make sure that you get professional help. bill: sometimes when these storms roll up there, they can be deadly. thank you for coming in. what is coming up next? patti ann: breaking news on the murder of eight people in georgia. police are investigating a man accused of kidnapping and raping jaycee lee dugard. we will tell you what they're looking for that could link him to a long string of unsolved cases.

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patti ann: door to police have now released a frantic 911 call after seven people were found dead. they pleaded for help for two family members who were still alive, but one of them died last night. police later arrested the man who reported the attack, but so far he is not considered a suspect. jonathan serrie is in atlanta.

>> the local police chief says it is the worst murder scene he hasn'has ever investigated. this took place on a mobile home park at a place that was once the site of the plantation of henry lawrence. seven people were found dead, and one of the two most survivors died yesterday. the one remaining survivor remains in critical condition. patti ann: what are police saying about what transpired? >> they are releasing very little information, other than the fact that this was the worst murder case that the police chief had investigated. >> i am 100% certain that what

happened, about how it happened. it is not a question of who is responsible. >> investigators will not say how the victims died, but they did say that the caller had found his family beaten to death. patti ann: why is the 911 caller in custody? >> he was arrested on the illegal possession of prescription drugs, marijuana, as well as tampering with evidence. they are not calling him a suspect but cannot rule him out. bill: investigators arrest a man illegally selling burmese pythons in florida. they arranged a meeting with the

seller and arrested him at a gas station. investigators seized 12 spinks. -- 12 snakes. the cut store owner holding them said that they can be dangerous. >> once they get to a certain size, they can be on mandible. bill: a few weeks ago a young girl was killed when a burmese python escaped from its cage. the man must cited for selling these animals without a license, and without installing a microchip. patti ann: firefighters in california trying to save 12,000 homes from flyefire. it has already claimed the lives of two firefighters. bill: and dick cheney

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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill: this is a fox news alert. dick cheney calling the administration's investigation of the cia in a terrible decision. he sat down with chris wallace over the weekend, going directly after the white house and justice department, slamming attorney general eric holder's decision to interrogate the interrogation program. >> the fact is, the justice

department has already reviewed the general's report, five years ago. now there are dragging in back up again and he is going to review it again to find some evidence of wrongdoing by cia personnel. a review is never going to be final anymore. we can have somebody come along in the future 10 years from now, 15 years from now, and go back to rehash of these decisions. bill: the reverberations are going back to washington, d.c. welcome back to a brand new power of ""america's newsroom." patti ann: by state -- vice- president dick cheney claiming that his tactics saved american lives.

bill: he also told chris wallace about disagreements he had with president bush on the issue of iran. kelly wright as our coverage from washington. what did the vice president say about the terrorism investigation? >> let's be clear, we all know that the former vice president is known for being blunt and direct. it should come to no surprise that he is busting the decision to investigate the cia. he says president obama is committing and umbrageous political act. >> and outrageous political act that will do great damage long- term to our capacity to be able to have people take on difficult job, make difficult decisions without having to worry about what the next administration is going to say.

>> you recall that the cia was giving guidelines to use waterboarding and other tactics. while some consider these methods to be tortured, he said these tactics kept the country safe from terrorist attack. bill: on the topic of iran, what did he say about the bush administration going after the iranian program? >> there was always concerned about the nuclear buildup with the bush administration. they wanted to stop any plan whatsoever. taking out the nuclear plant was not his decision to make. chris wallace asked him, the fact that you knew president obama was coming into office, did you want to have a sit-down with the administration to take out those nuclear-weapons.

that is when he said it was not his decision to make. he explains he was probably a bigger advocate of military action than any of his colleagues, saying it was important to keep the military option on the table. bill: thank you. for more on that exclusive interview, go to our website, foxnews.com. you can click on the links to see the entire interview. there is also a transcript available online. patti ann: new video for merging of the freed huckabee bomber and a libyan hospital. abdul basset al-megradhi was rushed to a hospital yesterday. in the video she appears frail and weak, but the decision over releasing him is gaining steam. we have a radio host with us. this all came about because he

was only to have months to live. what do we know about his condition? >> that was a scottish doctors who recommended that he would be released. he received a hero's welcome in libya, out ranging many of those families who had victims in the attack. we have pictures of him in a hospital in tripoli with an oxygen mask, in intensive care. as far as the scottish legal system is concerned, he was released because he was dying and there was an element of compassion. patti ann: what about the theory that this was part of an oil deal? >> that's right. the british government was trying to complete the negotiations still, and it seems that scotland was encouraged to

send him up back to libya. a few weeks later, libya signed off on this oil deal. a lot of money potentially for the british government. patti ann: thank you. outrage on the streets of new jersey as the libyan dictator plans his trip to the u.s. thousands, including the governor, gathering to protest the leaders trip. many are fuming after he had that public welcome home party for the man we just referred to. colonel's gaddafi was planning to pitch a tent on a libyan embassy in new jersey, but now he will main -- remain in libya. bill: firefighters continued to

battle a fire in southern california. flames are earning 12,000 homes. two firefighters were killed on sunday when their engine rolled down a hillside. >> this reminds you of last summer. what happened last night is something that firefighters have been dealing with. not only do they have difficult conditions with the wind and timidity, but they know that two of their own died after their truck rolled down a cliff. let me give you an idea of what is going on. this fire is threatening more than 12,000 homes. they believe it has burned about 30 structures. in northern california, as many as 60 homes may have burned

down. that fire is not yet contained. they are getting ready to start up some of the bulldozers on the hillside that will cut in fire lines. we are going to come across the hillside here. you concede this pick smoke. -- you can see this thick smoke. it is very difficult in terms of conditions right now, so we will keep you updated. bill, thank you. -- bill: thank you, adam. hoping for containment some time soon. patti ann: investigation of man accused kidnappers alleged backyard present expanded to a neighboring property. phillip garrido and his wife

have been charged with kidnapping, rape, and false imprisonment. they kidnapped jaycee lee dugard and kept her captive for 18 years, forcing her to bear garrido's children. now they want to know if he is connected to the disappearance and death of 10 other women. connie maccallum, what is the latest? >> several of the body of were found in an industrial park near where she worked. police are seeing if there is a connection to those unsolved crimes. that is why they brought out cadaver dogs, rakes and chovelss to dig up this yard behind me. that is where phillip garrido was accused of living before the new homeowners move in in 2006.

on the other side of the is the infamous backyard. we now have our first pictures of the conditions that jaycee lee dugard lived in four years. -- for years. investigators will be combing through this campground and clearing away brush. while neighbors express concern about whether police are doing their job of keeping tasks -- keeping tabs on all the sex offenders in the area, there are hundred and this is a cut. patti ann: thank you. later on i will be talking to mark fuhrman about where the investigation goes from here. bill: perverts traveling to places like cambodia and thailand on a mission to have sex with minors.

some are calling in sex tourism. now uncle sam has a plan to stop it. patti ann: a horrifying scene of an air show. two pilots dead after a fiery crash. what caused it and why are the pilots being called heroes? bill: former vice-president dick cheney sparking off a controversial interview. >> now that he has been office for seven months, what do you think of barack obama? >> i was not a fan when he was elected, and my views have not changed. i have doubts about his policies, of the the extent to which he understands what needs to be done. [ male announcer ] 100 potato chips or 100 pringles. both cost the same, but only the pringles superstack can makes everything pop! ♪

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could be to blame for a jet crash over the weekend. this was taped in poland over the weekend. both pilots involved died in the crash. the bill russian defense industry crediting the putt for steering his job away from a crowd, avoiding the even greater tragedy. patti ann: dick cheney blasting the justice department for investigating cia terror investigations. he said the obama administration is undermining national security. he is warning that it threatens the morale of cia agents who take on difficult jobs. >> my concern is the damage that will be done by the president going back on his promise about investigations is seriously

going to undermine the morale of our folks at the agency. patti ann: with me is a former cia operations officer, now with the heritage foundation. you heard him say this will have a devastating effect. is he right? >> i think it is already happening. people feel underappreciated. morale is low among the people that i have talked to. they are wondering what the president's next big policy flip-flop will be. he did not like the things that happened in the past but is not looking back. that is what he said earlier, but now he seems to be pushing for these investigations. i think people are nervous right now and it is not good for our country.

patti ann: the obama administration has been looking at if the policies were legal, and second if not policy violated those laws. in cases where interrogators went too far, they were all but a disciplined, is that correct? >> that is correct. i believe one officer was prosecuted. there was all another report of an inspector general in 2004 in which the administration and congress had the opportunity to review. i think this is picking old wounds. it is important not only to keep the country safer today, but looking forward to national security challenges we have out there. do you really want the director of the cia worrying about these old issues, worrying about the

war in iraq? it seems to me those are the issues we should be concentrating on. it seems to me there is a political element to this as well. patti ann: there was something that he touched on, asking whether or not the policy was even legal. he said, we are asking these people to do difficult things at the discretion of the president. if they are going to be subject to being investigated by the next administration, no one is going to sign up for these missions. is that a concern now? >> absolutely. like i said, when is the next policy flip-flop? we should be wary -- very word about the sort of thing. i think the proof is in the pudding here in the fact that we have not had a terrorist attack

here in eight years. in my view, that is not by chance. patti ann: he pointed out that the cia agents should be getting credit for the market they have done. thank you. bill: we are going to get back to the iran issue later. a question on health care, too. if there is a plan that is passed, do we have enough doctors to take care of everyone? we will speak to two people with differing opinions.

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bill: federal investigators are working to protect children around the world from the practice of sex tourism. people travel to countries like

thailand to have sex with minors. the officials are cracking down on a zero tolerance policy. william la jeunesse is with us that a los angeles airport. who are these suspects being brought back to los angeles? >> we are waiting for the plane to arrive carrying three convicted child sex offenders. they served their time in prison but then began another chapter of their life of crime as international crime sex tourists. i cannot release their names until later, but i.c.e. will then tell us their names. i can tell you what they did. this is some undercover video taken by one of the partners of the investigation.

they go to one of the most destitute neighborhoods where they sexually assault the young men and girls. one man bought a young boy for a bag of rice and less than $3. another one please call the pied piper of pedophiles. he would go down the neighborhood dropping dollar bills to attract little boys. the third would go into these the vietnamese brothels where there were girls as young as eight years old. they were found and arrested and there are now being brought back to the u.s. bill, if they committed crimes overseas, how are they prosecuted back here in the u.s.? >> there was a law in 2003 that was designed to keep this sort of thing from occurring. we have agents at u.s.

consulates that are in communication with officials and the evidence is admissible over here. the law basically provides if you were convicted here in the u.s. and merck convicted abroad, you can receive life in prison. of course, these sentences are much tougher than they would otherwise receive in their home countries. we will have more for you coming up in about three hours. bill: thank you for that. patti ann: dick cheney saying president obama's partisan investigation will hurt cia morale and endanger american lives. bill: and gearing up for another full day of town halls. it is still august and there is still time to hold a town hall meeting.

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with dick cheney revealing a few details about his working relationship with president bush. wendell goler is at the white house with more. >> the vice-president said it sets a bad precedent for what administration to investigate a previous administration for what he sees as political reasons. the 2004 campaign was republicans assertion that democrats could not do what was necessary to keep the country safe. >> they are threatening to disbar lawyers that gave us a legal opinion, contrary to the president who said they would not investigate. >> what house officials say that attorney-general holder is independent and squashing the investigation would amount to

accusing the bush administration for not prosecuting terrorists aggressively enough. patti ann: for more on the exclusive interview, go to our website, foxnews.com. bill: monday morning and a full slate of town halls. eight lawmakers holding public forums today on reforming medical insurance. also, we examine an issue that could affect millions. have the democrats done enough to make sure that we have enough doctors? good morning. bill: we also have dr. mark

siegel here in the studio. what i find in their research is trying to pinpoint the right incentives to attract primary- care physicians. what is in the plan that makes sure that we attract more doctors to take care of more people who will be insured? >> this is an issue that has not been fully fleshed out. one of the big problems -- it is very divisive to frame the discussion this way and say that if we cannot provide care to people because there will not be enough people. if it's the haves against the have nots. bill: let me go to the doctor here in new york. she is saying it is not clear in the reform bill we have not seen so far.

i have heard suggestions of increasing pay for physicians, or cutting down medical school debt, where much of the shortages are. are those good ideas? >> i think that is a drop in the bucket. $500 million for primary care? the viewers know that we have been talking about billions of dollars here. we all know that it is going to get worse. if you add 15 million more people to doctors' offices and you keep on cutting their benefits, and you keep cutting their overhead, doctors are going to quit. 50% of the officials -- doctors say that they would leave if they could now. so the doctor is wrong when she says doctors are not considered in this. they are not happy and they're getting on happier.

i did not like it one question -- president obama questioned the morale of physicians. we're all taught to treat patients the same, but we cannot work for free. this program is going to make things worse. you want to fix this? let's put millions of dollars into the training of primary doctors. bill: doctor, what about that? >> the problem here is we have a tendency to reimburse physicians for repeat procedures. primary-care takes time and we have not addressed the issue of proper reimbursement for but we do. primary care providers are on the lowest rung of payment. the way people make a decision about primary-care or specialty care is their debt.

and they make those decisions based on debt relief, as opposed to what they really want to do. primary care is a rewarding field to go into but the problem is no one is talking about changing the way that we compensate physicians and what they do. bill: you can make more money as a specialist than as a primary care. back to you, dr. mark siegel. if we cannot provide the coverage, is that a good enough reason not to go after reform? >> if we do not have the doctors, warner says, by the way, we cannot provide insurance. what good does it do you if you have insurance but there is no one to see you? i agree primary care is important. i am not so hot on net idea of outcomes. if i lose a patient, i should not be penalized.

specialists are in big trouble, too. they have enormous losses, are paying hundred the thousands of dollars a year and malpractice suits. the whole business needs to be changed. we need toward reform. this is the wrong place to be starting. -- tort reform. bill: i have heard that argument before. with the use think of that doctor -- what do you think of that, doctor? >> the bigger issue is we need to bring everyone under one tent. to tell people that we cannot provide that care is the wrong message. we need to provide care for everyone and change the way that we reimburse. it is not about holding on to what i have, and you have yours.

it is too divisive to look back. >> i have the feeling with all of these debates she is a very good physician, but it is not care we are talking about, it is insurance. they are guaranteeing health care. if you give everyone insurance but nobody takes it, they are not getting health care. we have to fix the health care system, not the health insurance system. bill: thank you both. it is a debate that we have every week. patti ann: sarah palin has a new gig, paid public speaker. she will begin sorting through nearly 1000 public speaking invitations. she has signed on to washington's secret bureau.

, she is expected to earn six figures in her speeches. her spokespeople says that she is also 80% completed with her book. bill: this is a fox news alert. a waterspout and tornadoes touching down in galveston, texas. officials say that it began as a waterspout but turned into a tornado when it hit the island. a couple of snapshots after the water stopped falling. patti ann: disturbing new details in the 18-year long ordeal of kidnapping victim jaycee lee dugard. police looking into whether her own doctor, the father of her two kids, is also a serial killer. we will speak to mark furman to get his take on the investigation. bill: parents may not be too

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jon: we will update you on those california fires that have now turned deadly. what are the chances of getting them under control? and three texas men missing for a week in the half. how were they rescued after the coast guard abandoned the search? and did you hear from vice- president cheney over the weekend? we will get into the interview. bill: in the meantime, a bumpy but successful connection in space. despite some small issues, the shuttle docked successfully with

the international space station, dropping off thousands of pounds of equipment, as well as one new astronauts. the shuttle crew still has a few tasks to do before they return to earth. good luck to all of them. patti ann: as we reported earlier, the investigation of a california man kidnapping a girl and holding her captive for 18 years is expanding. police want to know if phillip garrido is connected to the death of 10 other women. where does the investigation go next? mark fuhrman is with us now on the telephone. you say we need to go back to the beginning, to the rate that he was convicted of in nevada. what does that tell us about him? >> what is interesting about him

is he is an organized, and violent rapists. he had a complete other facility to commit his rate. we have to go back to when he was caught in nevada. had he not been interrupted by a police officer and the victim escaped, he probably would have killed her. that means it was not the first time he committed this act. where are the other victims? once we say that, we know that he is going to prison for that. now there could be some connection to homicides in the 1990's. to say that he was not active

would be incorrect. patti ann: we were just showing a picture of his wife. what is her role in all of this? >> i have always wondered about the type of woman that could be involved in this, and we do not often think about women in sexual predators, but often they aid. i will never understand it, and i don't think we ever will. this is the bizarre relationship that he has with this woman. we do not know what goes on in their heads. he's missing women, these 10 missing women that were found in an area surrounding where he worked -- i understand what they're doing right now. his m.o. is similar to 1996, and

they probably would not change much. that is why he was on parole for life. he is doing things the same. what they are doing in the backyard of his residence now is looking for remains were evidence of anything that would link them to the 10 dead women, or to the other victims because we have not heard, many prostitutes were missing. patti ann: they are also looking next door. he was a caretaker. meanwhile, one neighbor called police in 2006 to say that children living in tents in his yard. police spoke with garrido and never even asked to look in the yard. how did this happen? >> i cannot say what the

interaction must, but i can say this. they are on parole for life. a lot of people do not understand, when you are on parole, you are in the community but under the same rules and laws as being in prison. you can be searched at any time. even law enforcement officers. i do not think the officer dropped the ball here. i think -- well, we know that parole has never searched the suspect's house since 1991. to have the ability to go into a bun that rapists home and make sure that everything is as it should be, to never do that in 18 years, that is a failure.

patti ann: we have to leave it there. thank you. bill: we are getting new information from the l.a. county fire and apartment the containment is only an 5%. this is los angeles county. they have about 500 people on the scene. 18 structures destroyed and on sunday, terrible news. two firefighters killed when they ran off the road. we are also hearing those larger airplanes should be available. it is very effective. this is acton, calif., near what they are calling the station on

fire. we will be updating you throughout the day. in the meantime, remember all those school closures because of the swine flu? the cdc has a new strategy on how you can protect your kids. patti ann: and what is the real story of the government's use of the terror alert just before the 2004 elections? tom ridge speaking out over whether or not this was a political ploy.

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patti ann: former homeland secretary to secretary -- homeland security secretary tom

ridge says that he did not use the terror level for political reasons. he said members of the administration urged him to raise the tariff levels just before the election. he also noted that president bush's approval rating tended to go up whenever the level was raised. now in an interview, he insists he was not suggesting the administration was playing politics with the security. rather, he calls it a difference of opinion. bill: as the nation's children go back to school, on the swine flu weighing on the minds of many parents. the initial outbreak this year had schools shunning their doors in response. now the cdc is suggesting a different approach. marianne silber is with us at a school in harbors town, indiana.

>> now that officials know more about how this virus attacks, they have completely different roles in the fall. they have devised special quarantine rooms where they can bring kids displaying any symptoms to get them away from the rest of the kids. i'm standing inside of inertia's -- a nurses station here. we heard from health officials that simply shutting down is not going to rent the spread of h1n1. this time around, they are taking precautions and making sure that the parents are ready as well. tell us about last spring and but concerned you the most when you heard the school's closing. >> certainly, we want to find more information to find out what we can do to help families

prepare better for what ever on, school officials decide. >> what are you telling your kids so that they do not get any kind of flu? >> we just tell them to make sure they are mindful about washing their hands often and that they are coughing into their elbow. that is what teachers and administrators are being told us well. same thing is that we have been hearing. bill: it will be an interesting school year. thank you. for the most up to the information on the h1n1 virus, go to our website. type in the keyword h1n1, and there will be basea whole slew f

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