teas it for us today. the facto >> bill: i'm bill o'reilly. you'll see all your things on the factor post-game show. i'm bill riley. we see you effects time. the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. i'm gregg jarrett. toppling the news president obama pushing hard for health care but is the white house backing off one of more divisive proposals. we've got a fair and balanced debate. president obama's address, joe wilson is speaking out on the incident. saying he is sorry again to his colleagues in congress this time? >> gregg: and the search for the missing grad student, investigators making a troubling

discovery. rick eleven that will is live, what is the -- -- rick is live in new haven. >> it was confirmed there were bloody clothes that were found. they were found sometime late friday night, early saturday morning by investigators. we have not confirmed what exactly the items of clothing were. we do know they are testing the clothing and bloodstains to see if there is evidence to see if there is a match to the kloogt. >> gregg: i understand there may be a search at an incinerator in hartford. >> reporter: it's a large incinerator where trash is brought from the lab building. investigators say it's only logical to trace the trash from this building to that incinerator. there was a dozen investigators

and there are still investigators and there may have been dogs involved in that search but no word whether they found anything yet. >> gregg: as i understand it, rick, this place last a bunch of surveillance video cams surrounding it. i read somewhere more than 60 or 70 of them. have they gone through all the images? >> they are doing that now. we can show you one of the cameras. we can zoom into one of them on the outside. there are roughly 75 inside and outside the building and in the parking garage and there are images of annie going into the building but none of the images show her leaving. they are going through frame by frame to see if she put on a lab coat when there was fire alarm that went off. they have not found any trace of her leaving. >> gregg: rick live in new haven thanks. >> president obama launching a full court press for his full

health care overhaul. saying quote, this is no time to expect the status quo. he sits down on 60 minutes and stops in new york, ohio, maryland. select white house staffers are hitting the talk shows. live in washington with more. >> president obama turned to congress to talk about the healthcare bills and democrats will left to defend the legislation. now he seems ready to lead the battle himself. he was in campaign mode at a rally on saturday and he plans similar events this week. he tells 60 minutes that he will take full ownership of health care reform. he says if it doesn't work he should be held responsible. on the sunday talk shows, top white house aides continue to try to take a middle ground on the central question of a government run insurance option.

>> i'm not willing to accept that it's not going to be in the final package, but what he also said this is not the whole of health insurance reform. we should not let the whole debate evolve around this one question. >> reporter: after the president laid out his health care priorities at the capital last week. 12 senators appeared on sunday talk shows with reaction. democrats mostly echoing the white house line expressing some support for a government option but indicating it's not a deal breaker. republicans stood firmly against the option and raised questions about the overall costs of reform. >> if the deficit matters, which i'm glad to hear it does and the public options are not responsible, than the house bill is dead. >> reporter: and republicans

expressed skepticism cutting waste can generate hundreds of billions in savings. >> gregg: probably the most controversial portion of reform that the president is picture now but if he wants a bipartisan deal the so-called public option really need to be that taken off the table. here is what he had to say to a joint address last night. >> my friends, i will remind you the driving idea behind reform is to end insurance company abuses and make coverage available for those without it. [ applause ] the public option is only a means to that end. we should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal. to my republican friends, i say that rather than making wild claims about a government takeover of health care we should work together to address any legitimate concerns we may

have. >> gregg: joining us is dr. bill cassidy and jason a blue dog democrat. you have to know that government run option is in deep trouble when the "new york times" predicts it's demise. congressman, is it dead and if so, why? >> well, i think it's dead. although the president continues to advocate for it. the reason would be in august the american people spoke. they are clearly concerned about the government option, costs and intrusion into their lives. the very fact that the makes me wonder if he actually heard. i do think senators and representatives have heard. >> congressman, the president has been criticized by members of your own party for failing to take a strong leadership

position. he has vacillated and as recently wednesday evening in a joint address before congress, i presume you were there -- he tried to have it both ways. is the president to blame for its failures? >> i think the american people have spoken. i would agree with the congressman about that. that is what we heard across the country, there is a level of uneasy with the intrusive role of government in heath care reform. if the people are not comfortable with option. >> gregg: you are not comfortable with it either right you would vote against it? >> i already voted against the bill. i serve on the labor committee and i voted against it because i have concerns about the cost of the bill. i think if we can do this in a neutral way, do the insurance reforms that are necessary and not impact the quality of care we have in the system today, i think we can get this done.

whether or not the public option is part of it remains to be seen. but the american people freevs a level of uneasy with it. >> gregg: nancy pelosi says she has the votes to pass it in your body, does she or does he is not? >> she may in the house, but we'll see what happens in the senate. this legislation has to pass both bodies. >> gregg: congressman, the leading bill in the united states senate calls for a nonprofit cooperative as an alternative to the government run program but the former health secretary wrote an op-ed about it warning this, i'll quote him. the co-ops would be federally controlled and staffed when washington provides the money and the names of the directors, government controls health care. if that is in fact how a coop

could be constructed would you be against them? >> if it would be con instructed it would be a fig leaf for a public option. i think the anger in the townhall meetings in august was the result of the american people feeling like they weren't hearing the straight story. it was kind shifting the argument so they would provide something to the american people that the american people did not like. they would see a co-op constructed that he spoke of. >> gregg: if the u.s. government controls the co-ops through money and management which is what chuck schumer has been arguing for, isn't that jaws government run program that is disguised as something else? would you oppose that? >> as with anything the devil is in the details. it is going to matter how the co-op is constructed and what the level of government is in oversight and with the

regulatory nature of the co-op, i think like in seattle it's worked. it's been in effect for decades. >> gregg: what if, what if the government subsidizes it and they staff it and they have a say who the controlling directors are would you vote against it? >> again, my concern is voting against the bill deals with cost could, impact on small business. i would have to see the entire bill. that wouldn't be my line in the sand, but i would have concerns if it were designed in that way. >> gregg: congressman, the president said two weeks ago that it's a complete myth that health care reform would use taxpayer money to fund abortions. yet, isn't it true that democrats have turned down every proposal or amendment that would have specifically blocked that. is that true and what does that tell you? >> yeah.

there is a certain amount of inexactitude, it would take premium payments from folks into agency set up by the federal government with rules defined by the federal government and pay for health care on a plan that would be defined by a federal official, but these dollars are not being called federal dollars. so the concern is, certainly it quacks like a duck and why isn't it a duck? they are using this money to pay for abortion. gregg, one more thing... they will define the minimum package which may, indeed, include abortion, may not choose to provide it but may be required by the czar, if you will, that would be the minimum standard benefit program. >> gregg: i need you to respond to this.

if they are taxpayer money to fund abortion, why did they vote to block specific polls that? >> gregg i would agree that we need to be sure that not one penny could be used to fund abortion. >> gregg: why are they blocking the specific language proposals? >> there may be a difference of opinion, the committee on which we served didn't have the amendment offered but the other two did. the result is as you describe. you asked my opinion. i think we could have made the language stronger. >> gregg: congressmen, thank you both for being with us. they heard it around the nation, representative joe wilson made it clear on fox news sunday he is done apologizing. i apologized to the president one time and it was accepted by the president, the vice president.

so i believe the american people know that i am a civil person, a person who respects the institution of the house. i have apologized to the president. i believe that is sufficient. >> he raised eyebrows when he shouted -- you lie, to the president but he says he won't just a few on the house no floor -- he won't apologize on the house floor. >> gregg: an illinois mayor saying the chief fund-raiser for rod blagojevich admitted to taking a drug overdose. they are saying this man christopher kelly told a police officer he overdose order drugs and he told that officer just before he died. police reportedly also found a variety of drugs inside a vehicle belonging to kelly. the mayor and offices are investigating this as a suicide. >> significant change in how

they are dealing with prisoners in afghanistan. the right to challenge their indefinite detention and to call witnesses. it's part of a new review board to be put in place, similar for the one used in guantanamo bay. there are more than 600 afghans being held prisoner at the 'military base. >> gregg: a deadly battle involving u.s. troops involving taliban i will plil tenants. a fierce fight that lasted almost eight hours. they say as many 50 militants may have been killed. it himself claimed the lives of three american soldiers. the deadly exchange reportedly begin when the militants attacked a convoy, one u.s. captain says most militants were killed when nato warplanes bombed their hiding place. an incredible lightning storm in california, take a look

at this. these bolts down in walnut creek. 250 strikes, setting several small brush fires. temperatures have been low but that could soon change which would significantly raise the risk of lightning sparking a wildfire. >> trace: reason why we have all those lightning bolts is because we have a cool trough of low pressure. what we are concerned next week we have a ridge building over california and with it the threat of excessive heat in san francisco, los angeles and all the way down to san diego. that is early next week, not this week coming up. we've got cool weather right now. i want folks to understand, here is the precipitation over the last two years well below normal and the southeastern part of the united states. california's problem has to do with the pacific being so-called

in 2007 and 2008. when the ocean is cold it sinks and it drys out and you get very dry in california. when the pacific, the globe is cooling now. fortunately we have warmed it up a bit and folks in california, january, february, march are likely to above precipitation. a lot of rain in the southern plains. you see this area off the bahamas. if we look at the pacific we're going to see this develop and try to come up to baja later this week and in the atlantic basin. this should go out even though it might develop. we're keeping an eye not dead fred because don't be surprised if fred is all the way over in the bahamas. so the possibility of another pacific storm heading for the baja. >> thank you very much, sir. >> gregg: community group acorn

hot water yet again. workers caught advising a fake prostitute in opening a brothel. we'll hear from them to see how it happened. >> coming up, we look at your tax dollars at work. decisions, decisions.

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>> trace: welcome back. checking our top stories, police looking through a landfill accepting for annie le. she vanished at a school lab. they say the americans could get the flu vaccine sooner than expected. some could be ready by the 31st. and george nichols meeting with shimon peres, she in the region with peace talks between israelis and palestinians.

>> gregg: since 1997, congress has spent close to $100 million a year replenishing beach sand to cape may to san diego. recipients dumping tons of it in front of luxury hotels and each year like sand, it all gets washed away. william takes a look at your tax dollars at work. >> this is the worst type of pork barrel federal projects for the wealthiest people. >> congress gives $100 million on sand on american beaches every year. >> literally after the first year the sand washes away. >> from flawed to florida to california, coastal communities lobby congress to buff up their beaches over and over again. they replenished one beach in new jersey for $24 million,

another 22 times for $83 million. >> this is another part of maintaining an absolutely critical aspect and basically the reason why most of us move to the coast in the first place. >> the beach in encinitas cost $14 million but the mayor says it's worth it. >> when you think how important the beach is to people's quality of life, it is money well spent. >> congressional budget office, taxpayers have dumped $3 billion in federally subsidized sand on beaches around the country. president clinton and bush tried to get money out of the projects. there was bill in congress to ban the practice. conscious said no, but even though last year taxpayers spent $4.5 million on a single beach in mississippi and all that sand washed away in the first winter storm.

>> gregg: reporting coast to coast -- i love beaches but i'll never be able to afford to live at one. >> i agree. i'll keep my mouth shut on that one acorn hidden camera scandal, this video shows the worker talking to a hooker but she faking it. acorn calling it part of the smear campaign. they want to sue. who shot the video and what they had to say about that straight ahead. >> gregg: you're not going to believe what acorn is claiming. don't go away. if you're taking 8 extra-strength tylenol...

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welcome back. bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news. white house talking about the importance of a government run option reform. one way to achieve president obama's objectives on the issue. >> gregg: former fund-raising chief of rod blagojevich's investigation he overdosed before his death. illinois officers found a variety of drugs in christopher kelly's car. >> and a son of an astronaut was killed. f-16 fighter jet crashed. his father is the israeli

astronaut and considered a national hero. >> let's talk acorn and new fallout from the shocking tapes involving the community organizing group. a hidden camera capturing workers advising what appears to be a prostitute hour to cheat the government and to run a brothel. they are fighting back claiming the videotape is all just part of a trumped up smear campaign to ruin the group's reputation. that is the same group whose workers admitted to registering fake voters in the last election we spoke to the young woman who important trade the prostitute. >> why did you do it? >> we did it because we are hannah and you are concerned about our country. we are upset with the mainstream media. there is no accountability on our government. what is really as astoundeding

is covering for acorn and attacking me and hannah instead of getting to the bottom of what happened. where are the journalists. >> how did this all start? >> this was hannah's idea. i have a background of being an activist in the past and she contacted me and i developed it with her. >> how did you come up with it. you important trade a prostitute and it's astonishing what some of the people were saying. what was going through your mind? >> i was sat there, i can't believe they are actually falling for it but not necessarily falling for it what can we get them to say next. help a prostitute but help establish an under age brothel. you talk about bringing underage girls from el salvador? >> yes, we wanted to ship the

under age girls into the neighborhood so we could establish an under age brothel. >> that is such an outrageous set up. >> they asked us to join acorn and if you needed help on taxes we could get hundred dollars off. >> james, you talk about the report this morning. acorn is calling it a smear. a politically activated smear is it a smear? was it politically motivated the reason you did this? >> we're just trying to hold these organizations accountable, trying to investigative work, ichbd work and we're just asking people questions. i don't see other news organizations asking these questions. we took it upon ourselves to get to the bottom of this.

>> were the tapes distributed? >> absolutely not. they don't have any leg to stand on and they you is say i dubbed by voice in. that is absurd. we have the audio of the video and in some cases given to the media. they can attack us on that ground but when the truth comes out in the end. >> they are talking about suing. what is your reaction to that? >> bring it on. >> gregg: the folks who shot this videotape may be in a different kind of legal hot water, prosecutor looking to file filed in this case. in maryland it's against the law to tape a person without his or her prior permission. we're going to have more on this story from "wall street journal" columnist and we'll look at the legal things they could face. and astonishing claim that it's

fabricated. >> that video was unbelievable and walking down the street. >> gregg: where can i get one of those. >> we know you have one have those. we know you do. >> gregg: president obama is trying to make it clear, where do voters stand on this? a new rasmussen poll shows, 48% in favor of health care reform, 48% opposed. by the way, that is a shift from about a week ago before the president's address to congress. scott rasmussen joins us live to talk about it. what is amazing, scott, is that only 15% of them actually watched the president's address to congress. look, this is a bounce for the president? >> absolutely. what the president succeeded in doing on wednesday night is

rally the base. democrats jumped from 72% to 84% afterwards. he has rallied his base. what he failed to do was to move affiliated voters or republicans to be more supportive of the plan. >> gregg: in the wake of the -- you lie shout by a congressman -- you've polled people about what they think about illegals ought be eligible for health care reform, proof of citizenship, what did you find? >> we did that poll before that incident, but 83% said that anybody who wants to get benefits from health care plan has to prove they are citizen before they receive the benefits. only 12% disagreed. this is one of the closest consensus items we found. >> gregg: who is going to argue against that, unless you are an illegal. who do you trust more to handle

health care? >> dead even between the two parties, 44% republican and 44% democrat. this is a huge issue that democrats had a long advantage on but in the last couple of months as the health care debate has gone on, it's not so much that the republicans have gained ground but the democrats have lost ground with the american people. >> gregg: president says it over and over again, if you like your health care coverage, you're not going to lose it. it's not going to be downgraded or switched. what did people say? >> 52% of those that have insurance say that if this plan passes, they are likely to change their own coverage. perhaps the most discouraging aspect for the president is that these numbers haven't budged since june. he has been out repeatedly saying that you won't have to change, but a majority of those continue to say, yes, we think we will. they have heard different claims and they are worried. >> gregg: by a nearly 20

percentage point difference more people think that their quality of insurance is going down as a consequence of health care reform. scott rasmussen, thanks so much. the late kurt cobain brought back to life for a cyber gig but did the video game maker have a right to do that? there is a legal battle brewing. >> julia is a big rocker. stay tuned. discover gives you a cash back bonus on every single purchase.

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they claim, we have permission from courtney love herself. but the question is how far can a company go? we are joined with our panel. and i guest lectured in front of your bright students. you teach this stuff. who is in the right and who is in the wrong. >> it's an interesting area that it has to to do with the publicity of deceased celebrities. you would think that a celebrity estate would have the right collect money to selling the image. that is why you see george washington and lincoln in commercials. recently they have passed laws now i have to pay the estate. in this case, probable act vision is going to win because they say courtney love signed

away the rights. >> it seems like a no-brainer. if she signed away the rights.... >> the only possible reason she could have a legal claim she says there was informed consent but she didn't know the image was going to look the way it looked. >> it's unlikely but that is the only imaginable thing i could think of. >> gregg: given her history, one might say she maybe she doesn't understand what what it was -- she is hitting me over here. courtney love -- she is that kind and some of the band members are attacking because they are saying that culture cobain in this if i can game is singing songs from other bands. they are saying when the consent

was signed they only anticipated he would be singing nirvanna songs. so if they sing something by the beatles and it violates. >> kurt cobain was with nirvana and he was the front man. >> i really don't see what it's causing. the legacy or what is the harm? >> gregg: i have to say that is a great point. where is the damages here. he is singing some songs but not okay to sing other songs. activision, i would be stunned if they crossed the line because the liability would be fairly high. >> they consulted with their attorneys and they were careful in drafting agreements here. this original story came out of a twitter post by courtney love saying she is angry about it. i don't know if she has

consulted with a lawyer or anybody is serious about the lawsuit. i think it's about as serious as a twitter post. >> to take legal action they are going to take, it doesn't make sense. >> i mentioned, lawmakers like to protect dead celebrities. give us some examples of what they are trying to protect? >> there was a cases involving marilyn monroe's image. people started ex pliolgt it. much to the chagrin new york there was no protection. a lot of states are passing laws to protect the celebrities likeness after death. the rule was, the right of publicity dies at death. that is why lincoln and washington can endorse used car

sales. >> i don't think they are explaining the likeness and the documentation that courtney love helped pick out the images. >> i don't think the image is very good. >> i think she has buyers remorse. >> if your husband died, watching him as an avatar. >> it gets more complicated because for instance, we like elvis impersonators. can we sue every one of them because he is not paying money to the estate. that is where you can take these laws if you are not careful. >> paul good to see you both. >> we're coming up on an anniversary that most americans would like to forget. one year ago this tuesday, the financial firm lehman brothers collapsed and 12 months of agony

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>> gregg: search for the missing yale student has led investigators to a connecticut landfill. they are going through the trash. today was to be her wedding dane dai. >> roll up your sleeve we may be getting swine flu shots earlier than expected. early doses will start rolling out by october. american envoy george mitchell, he met with the israeli president shimon peres and had they are hoping to renew peace

talks between israelis and palestinians. >> president obama on wall street tomorrow, he will be delivering a major address on the economy. this coming a year after the stunning collapse of lehman brothers. the fall of the power created a global panic shaving thousands of points off the dow and triggering a great government intervention. here is the question, several questions, how are the big financial firms, at least the ones that are still around, how are they doing? have they learned anything in the year? we are joined by president of diversified financial consultants. in a word or brief phrase how would you describe the last year? >> one of the most amazing roller coaster rides, up and down, i wanted to get sick but

we are starting a recovery period. >> give us of some of the major surprises over the last year? >> it started with the collapse of lehman, so it just started a cascade effect where companies and institutions that have been around for hundred years, literally in one shape or form or another were swallowed up. wachovia, bank of america, they are gone. >> let's take a look. you'll be able to see that. it should in the studio, a kind of comparison, wall street then and now back to september 15th, 2008. september 11th 2009, if you go go through that, are you able to see that first of all. we'll take a look at that. go through that and tell us what we're looking at? >> in general it's indicative of

how much help these companies needed from the government and how much deep trouble they were. you have a company like citigroup there is a stock price reflects that. j.p. morgan wasn't as hard hit the price of stock has recovered pretty well. it's a pretty good indication of just how much trouble they were a year ago and how much recovery they have taken on so far. >> let's talk about some of the smaller firms amid this crisis. how are they doing now? >> i think it's about opportunity. what is happening some of the smaller firms have looked at their big brothers. now, they are starting to steer away, not only some of their best clients but where they are laying people off and cutting departments, wachovia and aig, some of the best tal sent leaving because they are not getting bonuses and compensation.

>> the when you have one more question, consumers, how did they fare? >> they had a lot of trust in some of these large institutions. they really don't know where to go. the reputation of the companies are shot. they are returning to small size firms and more on a one on one relationship, but they are still pretty scared. >> what are we going see over the next couple of quarters? >> in my opinion we have started the healing process. you see that the financial markets are opening up but pretty decent recovery since march since we hit the bottom. i think it's going to take time. not going to happen in a day. this is going to take a long time. >> five months, five years? >> i think full recovery could be five years, but i think into next year we'll see more

monument up on the upside. >> gregg: i don't have five years. >> you are young and vibrant. >> police in connecticut confirming they have found bloody clothing belonging to annie le. no surveillance cameras managed to catch her from leaving from the lab. we'll update it coming up. ♪

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experts say the please based group, funded by iran, could target the u.s., if the iranian regime feels sufficiently threatened. hezbollah reportedly has operatives in the u.s., two years ago, hezbollah agent was arrested after infiltrating the fbi and cia. and former u.s. homeland security chief michael chertoff says other followers are here, working for the group. >> we know there are people who have raised money for hezbollah, and committed crimes to generate profits for hezbollah. but we don't -- can't tell you is how many of his people would lay down the money making and actually carry out an attack. >> reporter: iranian funding is an estimated $1 billion a year for hezbollah, and much of it drives hezbollah's popularity in lebanon, a significant amount of cash supports the worldwide terror network. the group has a deadly relationship with the u.s. in 1983, a bombing at a military bar racks killed 241 u.s. service men in beirut an 1996

blew up an apartment building in saudi arabia, killing 19 u.s. servicemen. experts say the next attack could be on u.s. soil, warning u.s. or israeli military hits on iran's nuclear programs would unleash a hezbollah retaliatory strike. another potential trigger, iran's domestic unrest. >> the success of the up rising inside iran against the regime may tell the regime, actually, to deflect attention from the events inside iran and order strikes inside the united states, and have hezbollah cells deliver the strike. >> reporter: several government agency that's monitor hezbollah including the fbi, turned down requests to comment. but at a recent briefing, on terrorism, new york city's deputy police commissioner, in charge of intelligence, warned, not to underestimate the group. >> turning to the special case of hezbollah, this is probably the most capable, and disciplined terrorist organization in the world.

>> reporter: as the clock ticks on iran's disputed nuclear weapons, a clash with hezbollah seems increasingly likely and the threat to the u.s. will only grow, in new york, david lee grow, in new york, david lee miller, fox news. captioning by, closed captioning services, inc. >> hello, i'm juliet huddy. >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett, welcome to a new hour of america's news headquarters, the fbi sorting through piles of trash, which came out of the campus building where yale graduate student annie le was last seen swiping her i.d. card five days ago. >> the census bureau has cut off funding to acorn and now there are questions about the acorn outreach. >> gregg: the white house hoping to rally support on health care reform after lawmakers faced a summer of fiery town hall bates,

live in washington with more on this, melani wilkes. >> after the town halls this summer and decluning presidential poll numbers the -- declining poll numbers, the president is trying regain momentum on health care, he was at a rally today and has two scheduled this week and tells "60 minutes" if the health care bill passes he'll own it and should be held responsible if it doesn't work. but, today on the sunday shows, top white house aides continue to straddle the line on the question of a government insurance option. the president has repeatedly said he prefers it but it is not the only element of reform and many republicans think it is time for the president to clearly reject it. >> you know, the president, should take the public option off the table it is opposed by all republicans in the senate and therefore there is no way to pass a plan, that includes the public option. >> tens of thousands of demonstrators rallied against

big government involvement in health care yesterday at the capitol, they are concerned about bureaucrats having too much control, and worried about bankrupting future generations, and many republicans just don't believe that cutting waste from medicare can save billions of dollars. but a key democratic senator says medicare providers have promised lawmakers they are ready to offer hundreds of billions in savings, to customers. >> why are they willing to come forward and negotiate those savings? because, they know with more people covered, they are going to have more business, they are going to have fewer circumstances in which they don't get compensated, don't get paid. >> senator conrad is part of the ka good evening of 6 from both parties trying to negotiate a bipartisan deal on health care reform and senator conrad says they worked all weekend and will meet again monday and thinks they are close to an agreement. gregg. >> gregg: thanks. >> president obama and his congressional supporters vowed they'll have a health care bill

passed this fall and critics say such haste could result in a reform plan that really doesn't work and the president tells cbs's "60 minutes" tonight, he is determined to get it right. >> president barack obama: i have no interest in having a bill get passed that fails, that doesn't work. you know, i intend to be president for a while. and once this bill passes, i own it. and if people look and say, you know what? this has not reduced by costs, my premiums are still going up 25%, insurance companies are still jerking me around, i am the one who will be held responsible. so, i have every incentive to get this right. >> reporter: but if the democrats ram legislation through will the american people end up with a health plan they don't want? joining us now is conservative columnist and fox news.com's contributor and media consultant

and former communications director for chris dodd's presidential campaign, great to have you here and first you heard what the president is expected to say or will be saying tonight on "60 minutes" and once the bill is passed he'll own it and every incentive of getting this right, quote-unquote and what is he saying to you, does feel like he'll push things through too quickly, taylor. >> i think what it says is that he is being a strong leader and the strong leader on the issue that the american people elected him to be. i think saying i am taking responsibility for this is something that really makes people understand just how much he is putting behind this and there is no reason to push a plan that he doesn't feel this is right thing and getting it out in front of the issue is exactly what will continue to boost public support for the plan. >> andrea, what is it saying to you. >> i think the president has been all over the many when it comes to the issue and of course he's saying now that he owns the bill, but he does, i mean, he's

realized that his name is on this thing now, and his success of getting reelected is dependent on that. but, also, juliett, democrats will also own the bill in 2010 elections and so, look i think barack obama, he came out during the speech last week and said it wouldn't kick in for four years and if there is a dire rush why is it such convenient timing and wouldn't that be after he gets reelected? so, look i think the white house is starting to back off the public option and he says he's for it and then he's not and all over the map and now, democrats, do not have enough votes to pass with the public option and there's 13 that are opposed and you are really starting to see the makings of a democratic civil war between the far left and the moderates. >> but you actually mentioned something i wanted to bring up. it has been a few days since the president gave the speech to congress and the nation. now, there has been sometime to reflect and marinate over what he said, do you think that speech was helpful to him, in some ways or hurtful?

we can start with you. >> look, i think he moved democrats and polls showed that but he didn't convince the demographic he needed to convince and that is unaffiliated voters an independence and look, juliett, as long as he is proposing $300 billion in cuts, to medicare, he's not going to have seniors on his side, nancy pelosi's bill has $500 billion in cuts to medicare. you can't mess with medicare. and, they are still doing that. i think you have that issue, plus the public option and he has the far left on his side and does not have the middle and the right of the country and that is why he should not jam it through. >> taylor. >> it is interesting hear republicans suddenly rising to the defense of medicare when they have been trying to slash it for years. but, going back to your point, i think actually what polls showed is that after that speech, 7 out of ten people watching the speech felt that he was taking the health care debate in the right direction. and, that is exactly what he was looking to do by taking, you know, a larger role, and,

speaking about the overall structure that he was planning. people were hungry for specifics and he laid out a very strong structured plan, for how he will bring down costs and give people more stability -- >> the cost question, juliett is the one he failed to address and is still has not told us how he'll pay for it and -- >> as a matter of fact he actually laid out quite a few different ways that he would pay for it. >> what is he doing -- no, he did not. >> what are the specific ways you say that he laid out? >> he talked about cutting waste and fraud and talked about some -- putting some fees on the cadillac plans which is actually an idea john mccain talked about in the presidential campaign and, you know, he laid out an -- and opened the door for a variety of different ideas, to be at the table including those coming from the other side of the aisle. which is exactly what republicans are claiming they want out of the debate and yet they continue to walk away from the table and just attempt to kill any effort to health care.

>> and we were never invited to the table, taylor and barack obama want to push it through and on the cost question, is it so crucial that he cuts waste and fraud from medicare to pay for it, why doesn't he cut aways and fraud from medicare now, to help with the ballooning deficit. >> quick, taylor, answer. >> i want to say the idea that he has not had a -- republicans at the table is ridiculous, given that we have spent all summer, working on these republicans and democratic compromises and, frankly, you know, we have gotten very little out of the republicans for it. we will move forward on this, whether they want to take a leadership role on that or not. >> there you have it, folks, doing it with or without us. blazing ahead. >> thank you very much for joining us today, we'll see you soon. thanks, greg. >> gregg: democrats wanting to punish joe will signed want him to apologize on the house floor for his out bust during president obama's health care speech and the representative

refusing play along and caroline shivley has the story in washington. >> reporter: the congressman says he's done saying sorry and here he is on "fox news sunday." >> i will not apologize again. i apologized to the president on wednesday night. i was advised then that, thank you, now let's get onto a civil discussion of the issues. but, i have apologized one time and the apology was accepted by the president, the vice president, who i know, and i have not apologized -- will not apologize again. >> reporter: talk about the outburst during the president's address to congress wednesday night and mr. obama said illegal immigrant would not get federal money for health insurance and wilson yelled out, "you lie" and his son called his outburst a town hall moment and the congressman says it was not his intention but he thinks the attention he has brought to the issue, the senate finance committee and the president said they'll make sure legislation includes verification provisions to make sure illegal aliens

don't get money for health care insurance and hackers are using phantom computers to overload wilson's site and he said the site was down five hours friday night and that can hurt his campaign financially because people wanting to click on there and donate can't while the site is down. but, overall he's not hurting, wilson actually raised more than a million dollars since the outburst on wednesday, and so has the democratic opponent, rob mill, compared to $67,000 miller brought in the first six months of the year. house democrats are preparing a resolution to -- of disapproval to formally rebuke him in the chamber if he doesn't apologize to his colleagues for this is out bust and wilson, says no more "i'm sorries". >> thanks. >> it may have been big and noisy but the white house is shrugging off the street demonstration yesterday in washington. [cheers and applause]. >> republicans, democrats... >> tens of thousands of protesters have chg through the nation's capital, up in arms

over what they say is out of control spending and david axelrod said the group does not represent a mainstream view and adds they have the right to protest and the white house feels conservative demonstrations don't indicate the nation's mood. >> not to be overshadowed, americans who support the health care plan staged their own rally today, this one, organized by the group, americans united for health care and insurance reform. members say they want to send a message to congress and stand behind the president's effort, because he says more than 47 million americans are uninsured or at risk of losing their health insurance. >> investigators are searching through garbage at a connecticut incinerator, in connection with a disappearance of the grad student, annie le, last seen on the yale campus tuesday night and police discovered bloody clothing inside of the same building but they are not elaborating on what they are now following, why they are

following trash and rick leventhal, tell us of the search though trash facility, first off. >> reporter: well, it is in hartford, juliett, 40 miles from here in new haven but that is where the trash from the building is taken, to be incinerate and investigators say it is only logical to follow the trash in case there might be evidence in it. so they have been there since last night, and state police were there, with bobcats an sniffer dogs, wearing hazmat suits an sifting through piles of garbage and resumed the search this afternoon, and in fact the state police crime lab was moved there, this afternoon, no word yet on whether they found anything, though. >> what's the latest on the scene, of the disappearance. >> reporter: we want to give you a look at the building, on the yale university campus and you can see, police vehicles out front, and they have been 24 hour presence here at the campus and down the block, you may see a bunch of camera people gathered out of the iron fence there and that is to the near of the building, a basement entrance there and apparently, the bloody clothes you mention

wered found in the basement and we have seen state police investigators moving in and out of the area throughout this day and we should add, juliett, from what we understand, the clothing they found in the building that may have had blood stains on it, was not the clothing that witnessed say annie le was wearing when she disappeared. so, that sort of may throw a wrench into this and i want to show a camera on a building, there are 75 of them inside and outside of the building and the parking garage, the other thing investigators are doing, looking through footage from those cameras, because they see images of annie going into the building 10:00 a.m., tuesday and there are no images of her leaving. so that's the situation higher, juliett and we can tell you her family is now in town and are anxiously waiting for word on their daughter. >> so sad, she was supposed to be married today, as a matter of fact. rick leventhal, thank you very much. >> reporter: yeah. >> gregg: more rain, more problems this weekend for folks in central texas, look at this. this is a water-logged town

south of dallas. now, heavy rains since thursday, flooding homes and roadways, across the central region, and creeks are overflowing their banks and some residents being forced to leave everything behind. as the water levels continue to rise, accu-weather's joe bastardi joins us to tell us if there is relief in sight? how about it, joe. >> reporter: well, there is some relief in sight but will be slow going from the south central part of texas and oklahoma and eastward is going to continue to have a lot of rain over the next several days and first of all, the photograph here, the upper low that is swirling around texas and you know, they had a dry summer and this is the nature of texas weather and their averages are made up of swings of extremes from drought back to heavy rain and you see the circulation coming in off of the gulf of mexico and also watching an area off the bahamas that may develop and go out to sea and you fox in california getting a break out there, but, next week at this time, there

may be a lot of heat out there, again we'll watch early next week not this upcoming week and next week for the possibility of more wildfire action out there and record heat, san francisco, los angeles, and another thing, too, going on south of california, see this large area, this may organize into yet another tropical storm or hurricane in the pacific, and try to take a run up at the baja here, middle and latter part of week and that is something we're watching very very, closely and getting back to the u.s., here, the big weather news, all the heavy rain in texas, and continuous stream of moisture in and off of the gulf of mexico you don't need a named storm to cause a lot of rain, you folksen south jersey and delaware know from what happened thursday night into friday with the unnamed tropical storm that hit you and though the tropics not directly involved, gregg they are still showing signs of life this year. >> gregg: joe bastardi, accu-weather, thanks. >> the census department cut ties with the liberal activist group acorn and the

organization's activities are put under the micro scone and what is the future of acorn?

afternoon, and the rock throwing protesters are angry about what they see that's army's growing power in the region. the obama administration is set to give new rights to military detainees in afghanistan. and pentagon officials say the new rules give prisoners at bagram airbase access to personal representatives, in some form of due process and americans may have access to the h1n1 vaccine, sooner than expected, hhs secretary kathleen sebelius saying the shots may be ready the first week of october and bulk could be available nationwide by the middle of the month. >> gregg: the activist group acorn feeling the heat an organization mired in scandal after explosive undercover videotape shot by activists, caught some of the workers helping a woman posing as a prostitute and the partner trying to rip off the government and telling her, for example how to cheat the irs and offering advice how to run a brothel and the census department is cutting all ties with the group and what

is next for acorn, could an investigation, a criminal one be on the way? john fund joins us now, good to see you, you've written another column on this and you point out, this is a -- this is a group, acorn, that is under investigation, in 15 dates. there have been charges of fraud against some of the workers, and do you think that this is add its core a systematically corrupt organization. >> well, at minimum an extremely sloppy organization and at worst i think an organization that is rife with corruption. i think there will be several problems with acorn now, a lot more scrutiny will be focused on it. one, federal contracts. part of the videotape shows acorn tying the attendants of the undercover reporter at a housing conference to joining acorn and paying annual dues and that is a no-no and you don't use federal tax dollars to set up housing conferences to get federal money and tie to it

membership in a political organization and secondly, i think acorn is used by a lot of liberal candidates and labor unions to get out the vote and are now toxic for those people because of the bad publicity and lastly, i think acorn is in real trouble whether or not they are helping poor people and 8 board members were forced to quit simply because they asked for an audit of the books and makes me suspicious and will not open books to outside review and i think a lot of the poor people who depend on acorn will be saying are they working for us or themselves. >> gregg: acorn is threatening legal action against fox news even though the network had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the making of the film. and, by the way you can check out acorn's statement, issuing that threat of legal action against fox, on their web site. it is laced with racially charged language and it claims -- this is the amazing part, john -- that statement, by

bertha lewis the organizer claims the videotape is fabricated and if that is true, why do they also point in time out in the statement they have fired those acorn employees who are depicted in the videotape? does that make sense to you. >> yes, because acorn is a chaotic organization and the left hand doesn't now what the extreme left hand is doing and different parts can put out different statements and if i were fox news, gregg i would welcome the lawsuit, because part of the lawsuit includes the discovery process where you get to demand documents and other information from the people suing you and i think discovery of acorn's real inner workings would be a fascinating exercise. >> gregg: i like the idea. look, john, acorn, according to congressman steve king, my interview yesterday, acorn has received, he says, 53 million dollars in taxpayer dollars. money. is eligible, he says, for up to $8.5 billion in taxpayer money.

what happened to the measure in the u.s. senate that would have blocked taxpayer money to acorn? >> in march it was voted down, 54-43 and two democrats actually voted for it but it still lost and senator barbara mikulski, who represents the baltimore office of acorn shown in the videotape said there is no reason to ever cut off money or question acorn, it would be draconian to do that and i hope he reevaluates it in light of what happened in baltimore and these people cooperated and they were selling under age teenagers into sex slaveliry, it is astonishing and congress hopefully will wake up and realize acorn is a bad seed. >> gregg: and i think the doj needs to look into them as a criminal enterprise that might have violated ac tearing statutes in this country -- racketeering statutes, john fund, a columnist writing for a long time about acorn.

>> thank you. >> tea parties and super majorities, how health care reform could shape the balance of power in washington. >> gregg: a sad noted before we go to break, the world of tennis losing former wimbledon champ, jack cramer died last night at his home in los angeles, won this 1946 and 1947 men's singles titles, then known as the u.s. national and now known as the u.s. open, jack kramer, was 88 years old. ♪ ooh, yeah wiggle your day with jell-o sugar-free gelatin.

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>> gregg: bottom of the hour, time for top of the news the death of a former fund-raiser for, illinois governor rod blagojevich is under investigation, and christopher kelly died before he was supposed to report to prison and he told a person just before he died he overdosed on drugs and police fondled a variety of drugs inside his vehicle. >> the fate of the iraqi reporter jailed tor throwing shoes at president bush, remains uncertain, and the man was expected to be released tomorrow, and there is word he may stay in a little longer and is expected to get a hero's welcome, when he is freed. >> gregg: connecticut, yale university students are praying for the missing graduate stay tuned, annie le, the focus of a police search, vanished last tuesday and was to be married today. >> last november when the president won the election the

democrats enjoyed a clean sweep in congress and willed they be able to keep their -- will they be able to keep the majority in the midterm elections and where do the democrats and ruptures stand in 2010 and joining me is larry sabato from the center store politics and is the author of the book "the year of obama, how barack obama won the white house." great to have you, sir. >> thank you, so much. >> latter start with this basic question, anticipating the house election in 2010, elections in 2010, for that matter, governors ann as well, how critical is this time of year, right now, for both parties? >> this is the season for candidates and early fund-raising season and the time when expectation at least prim necessarily are set for a midterm year and we need to remember it is a big, big year. 37 of the 50 states, elect governors. more than usual. we're going to have more than the usual number of u.s. senate seats up in 2010.

38. usually it is 33 or 34. and this is a big, big year. >> the democrats picked up 54 house seats the past four years and republicans will want those seats back and fight hard to get them, look at these seats and give us the -- your analysis as far as who is the most vulnerable here? what will be the toughest challenges? >> look, you have correctly identified those seats picked up in 2006 and 2008, and i think, mainly the freshmen and sophomores will be vulnerable though there could be a few senior democrats who turn out to be vulnerable. >> for instance. >> often the ones who run over and over, whop think they are absolutely secure and they are not. but, essentially, my crystal ball, at the center for politics.org, the crystal ball site, we believe that republicans will pick up somewhere between 20 and 30 house seats, and remember they'd have to pick up about 40 to

retake control of the house. so, they will pick up seats, it will be a higher than average number in our opinion, but, it probably won't be enough to take scroll of the house. >> why do you see this happening? >> well, you know, look historically, only twice in modern american history, in 1934, and in 2002, with president bush, the, jr., only twice has the president's party actually gained seats in the midterm election and normally lose house seats because there is a natural kick back, a check and balance, kind of reaction, among the electorate i think that is likely to take place in 2010, because there is knees and unhappiness about the level of government spending and the condition of the economy and about the health care reform program, a lot of different reasons why this republicans are likely to pick up a number of seats. >> i want to go back to something you said a couple of seconds ago and mentioned incumbents that might have a

hard time, who specifically are you referring to? >> often it is incumbents who get into some kind of trouble, scandal, controversy, of one sort or another, it could be a personal scandal, it could be a financial scandal. some of these events haven't happened yet and will happen between now and the election and remember several of the key incumbents who lost in '06 and '08 got in trouble in september and october, during election season. so you always have to account for this problem ability that out of 435 congressmen you are going to have a few problems. >> right, give us your web site again to look at the crystal ball, that you have done, and your predictions. >> thecenterforpolicy bix.org. -- thecenterforpolitics.org. and we'll have our crystal ball for the ratings for the

governorships. >> there it is at the bottom of the screen, thanks for joining us, appreciate it. >> gregg: that is one of the best web sites ever on politics. >> that is why i asked. i know, it's fascinating to read that. crystal ball predictions. >> gregg: sarah palin alluded to death panels being part of the democrats' plan for health care reform and president obama is on the record as saying death panels, a quote from the president, a lie, plain and simple. when asked if the president was directly calling sarah palin a liar, white house press secretary robert gibbs explained it like this. >> i think for whatever reason, despite many media outlets saying that what governor -- former governor sarah palin wasation whaven true she continued to say it and i'll let webster define what one calls her. i think in the absence of fact, it -- >> if note truth -- >> in the absence of facts, sometimes what happens is we

fill the void with stuff that, quite frankly is not true. >> gregg: bit of an evasion and gibbs said that president obama was trying to fill the void with facts in his speech on wednesday night. >> speaking of sarah palin, tina fey won an emmy for her portrayal of this former governor on "saturday night live" and she repeatedly lampooned the vice presidential nominee in the lead-up to the 2008 election, almost perfectly mimicking the candidate's folksy style and speech and next sunday's emmis she'll defend her lead actress a series win for ther so show, 30 rock on nbc before the humvees, camels were a common mode of travel for the west army. look our military introduced them back in service, way back in 1856. just a couple of years before i was born... and they've long been discharged of course but not forgotten and today, virginia city, nevada, folks are

saluting the camel and casey steegel is there covering the action and joins us live! hey, casey! >> reporter: good to see you, this is a hard-hitting journalism day on the fox news channel if you have not been able to tell but a lot of people don't know the army did use camels like you say, in the 1800s and were actually discontinued because the animals were too friendly, apparent and scared the horses. but, these camels are super friendly and they have to be because, why? well, they are being raced, of course out here today. in virginia city, talking about the 50th annual camel races, you heard it right. and basically, there is a race itself, which lasts only ten seconds or so and that guy is tired and he's yawning, if you can't tell, he has been running around the track today and we hoped to time it out and get a race live on the air but they are taking a break now but they actually get up there and ride them just like a horse, grown adult, it's quite hilarious to see and they take it quite

seriously, in fact, this particular event draws tourists from all over the country to this little city in nevada near reno and only has a population of 800 people. and we're not talking about just camels, gregg, they even have ostriches in the back, too. and a little difficult to see from where we are but ostrich races as well and it's phoenix see a 250 pound man get on top of one of those ostriches and r roll around and a huge number of people come out to see this, who would have thought. >> gregg: how does it smell. >> reporter: i was going to get on one and everyone at the channel e-mailed me and has been asking me to get on a camel but they are a little volatile and even the experts are falling off of these, so i'll leave it to the experts. i'm sorry. >> boo! >> gregg: casey! boo! do it, pal! reporter involvement! >> casey, tell --

>> do you like when people get on your back and ride? i don't think they like it, guys. >> gregg: casey steegel a little bored with you, it seems! thanks very much. >> reporter: bye. >> gregg: that was fun. >> iraq. okay. once popular -- light heart story, a pastime enjoys new life and body building from beefing up for jobs in security to em lating american film heros. >> reporter: in the heat, barefoot to avoid spreading desert dust there is a new fascination with getting fit and at the gym, the captain will show you how. >> too much people asking me how can i build the muscle. how can i become that. >> reporter: body building and weight lifting were popular

sports in the 1970s and '80s but the '90s sanctions against saddam hussein's iraq made it difficult to get modern equipment and you could only work out in a few government controlled clubs. and that all changed in 2003. >> 2003, we have more, 100 machines. >> reporter: nearby, the hummer gym just opened up 6 weeks ago and both baghdad clubs charge roughly $20 a month and many clients work in security, a rapidly expanding industry in iraq. >> has to be, to get good mutt muscles to be accepted. >> bodyguards and businessmen and students, many are inspired by western movies. >> i decided to build my body up to -- after watching a movie to be like the hero with muscles like arnold. >> what you won't see in health clubs in baghdad is a woman.

there are no clubs exclusively for female members, and the coed club would still be out of the question here. even more men, in the macho society, this is note cultural norm, in iraq a pot belly signals wealth and status and smoking is practice camy a national pastime though no one at the gym admits to it. >> out of the gym... >> reporter: and after years of violence the club's offer a constructive atmosphere for young men to gather, building their bodies as the country rebuilds itself. >> thank you very much. >> gregg: a pot belly signifies success and wealth! >> you must be really rich -- no, i'm kidding, you har have a very good physique! >> gregg: oh, man, you were like -- >> you -- i'm kidding. >> gregg: ripping into mean, not easy being me! still ahead. the battle over who gets and who pays for all of those homeland

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>> two l.a.p.d. officers are on leave as police figure out who leaked a photo of rihanna's battered face and the photo as you recall surfaced on tmz's web site after the beauty was beaten by then boyfriend and fellow sink chris brown. and now attorneys for two police officers, rebecca reyes and juan lopez say their clients are on leave and deny in a wrongdoing

and recently a law makes it a misdemeanor for law enforcement officers to profit from leaked images or other documents. >> sno >> nobody likes to pay taxes but it eases the pain when you no where the money is going -- trying to be optimistic, and perhaps more so when it goes to homeland security projects, that actually help keep you and your family safe. duplicate programs, however, around the country, are draining the system of valuable resources. william lodgeness tracks your taxes in the report. >> in the hit series "24" the war room is vital to homeland security and now every town and village wants one and they are getting it lansing to their local congressman. >> it isn't them saying they know their district but the country better than a bureaucrat in washington, patently false. >> reporter: this year congress raided the homeland security

budget for 51 emergency op centers and now want twice the money for 75 more. some in small towns, like white fish montana and forts gibson, mississippi, 7 cons and 2 doctors people and south orange new jersey wants one, as well, newark, morris county and union county and hackensack have one, $3 million tor five opes centers in a 20 mile radius. >> it is way out of control and any time you put those two rdz works homeland security into the appropriation bill then you automatically have less. >> reporter: especially true when it comes to another pork-barrel program, the disaster and terror preparedness. in 1970 the government built the federal law enforcement training center in georgia, to train first responders. yet, this year alone, congress earmarked $160 million for 17 similar centers. including the national domestic preparedness consortium, the center for domestic preparedness in alabama, the national institute for home town security

in kentucky and the domestic preparedness consortium and the advanced training in west virginia and national center for counterterrorism in vermont and each center has its own expertise and former homeland security officials tell us, the training is largely redundant and the program is so infested with waste they want to cut it entirely. >> william lajeunesse reporting. that doesn't make me feel better. do you feel better. >> not at all. after they'll food recalls over the past few years we're a little wary about eating raw fruits and vegetables and you may have seen the new-fangled produce washes, fruit fit is one of them, and here's the question, do they really make our food safe and sanitary and the answer is coming back in three minutes. if you're like a lot of people, you have high blood pressure...

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also, connected with the new york medical associates, good so see you, doctor. look, if you go to any store these days, you are likely to see bottled food washes. you get a bottle and wash your food and fruits and vegetables with it. does that do any good. >> we should tell people, don't stop eating fruits and vegetables because you are worried about that. it is much more important that you eat them and these products that are out there, are not necessary. they don't hurt, can't do any harm and are food-grade ingredients and the idea is that you are supposed to get rid of pesticide residues and bacteria and the truth is washing with water, gets rid of 99.9% of that and the problem is normal the ones that get into the tissues of the fruit and vegetable and nothing will change that and they most important thing is actually, just washing the

fruits and vegetables and making sure that you clean them properly. >> i think it seems like it might be a psychological thing, you know, you would rather wash something with a product that is made to wash things as opposed to just water, and doesn't have anything in it. >> you are absolutely right. and, in fact, someone said when i buy it, i feel better when i have something i can spray on and can buy in the store but the truth is you can wash your fruits and vegetables and actually make up our own mixture if you want to, vinegar and baking soda and you can put grape seed extract in and you'll clean it just as well. >> i was hit by bird poop today and need a good cleaning! we need to wash you. >> gregg: 46th street -- boom! all over me! at any rate. >> was it just you? >> gregg: the cleansers, bottled cleansers have cleaning agents in those, in excess, couldn't that cause me physical harm. >> there is no harm because they

are food grade ingredients. so there is no harm to them and the idea is actually their breaking down the waxy substances, and it turns out some of the wax around the foote fruit, the fruits themselves have wax around them and it is a protective layer and companies put the wax around it and the idea is only wash the vegetables before you eat them, and because that particular layer is actually helpful. so, it really is important to keep your vegetables in the refrigerator and wanted to give a couple of tips to people. don't leave fruits and vegetables in the car, and get hot, bacteria likes conditions where it is warm and wet and next to meat or fish that is uncooked and people wash your hands and people get the contamination, in the consistent and you cut something, raw meat and then you cut the fruits and a banana or melon, the skin can have contamination an wash that as well. >> and you mentioned keeping the

vegetables away from the meat, for those of us who are not chefs, you have -- when you have the raw chicken and keep that on one tray, or plate, and you keep it away from all of the vegetables. >> and use a different knife, don't take the knife you are using on raw, uncooked food. >> juliett has not cooked in five or six years. >> not true. >> probably hasn't eaten! >> yes, i do. >> and tucker our producer said in me ear, what do you have to wash things like avacados and bananas with already a natural covering and you will not eat that. >> a great question but the skin can be contaminated from people handling it. >> but bananas skins are so thick. >> people touch the bananas in the store and they like -- find out if they like it and you don't know what is on the skin you will get onto your fingers and then put into your mouth or the reason -- >> or the cutting board. >> it is better to have fruit where you peel it away but the fact is you can get contamination because the skin is contaminated with bacteria from the somebody else. >> and you have a web site,

someplace to go. >> a web site, where you can get all of the information about clean, washing the food and making sure that you are safe with it and it is www.fda.gov/food and get all of the information you need to be safe with your fruits and vegetables. >> thank you so much, great tips and tucker had a good question, mark your calendar, everybody! >> oh! the death of -- last week of sir elton john's close friend and keyboard player brought the award winning singer a new outlook, what he said he'd now like to try for the first time in spite of being a very young 62 years old. when you have a drug or alcohol problem,

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