tv The Live Desk FOX News September 15, 2009 1:00pm-3:00pm EDT
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jane: you may remember this video of a little boy trapped in a burning s.u.v. rescued by some locals. you can see the little boy in the fire fighters have there. he spent two months in the hospital, and now he is out, and test for his birthday, he wants some new ears because they were burned off in that accident. jon: great for him. time for "the live desk." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- martha: welcome, everyone. trace: this is where the news begins. behind us is the national desk. they cover america. over here is the foreign desk. they cover the globe.
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every picture that comes into fox news comes in through this area, the media desk. brand new pictures will always be on the boxes on the right- hand side. in the top box, breaking news in the murder of yale student annie le. police are supposedly focusing on a lab technician who worked with her on campus. we will tell you what police are saying. in the middle box, how would you like to be flying on a plan that sets on the other side of this security checkpoint? you are about to see the definition of a suite at the switch. remember those undercover acorn videos? well, another video is about to be released, as the senate finally takes action against the left-wing group, and the brooklyn d.a. also launches an
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investigation. martha: there is a big battle on capitol over health care debate. max baucus is ready to unveil his new version of the bill. there are still some key issues to be ironed out to get bipartisan support, and he may find out it is tough to win over some of his fellow democrats. carl cameron has the very latest i. it sounds like families are worried about this, particularly middle-class families. >> that is right. we were always concerned about that. but there is also a growing concern about the actual impact on individual patients for americans. the plan mandates individual health insurance coverage. everyone would have to have some
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sort of coverage. what they're talking about doing is capping the premiums for people at 13% of their income. so you would never have to pay more than that out of your paycheck. liberal democrats are freaking out, saying that this is the sort of thing that can break budgets. martha: that is a tricky area. the four are often the most affected in these types of -- poor are often the most affected in these types of decisions. what is going on with the public option right now in the bill? >> max baucus has now distributed what he calls his proposal.
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here is a graphic. right now is estimated to cost $880 billion. it would mandate individual insurance. it would exclude the government insurance option. instead, it would include a government-initiated nonprofit cooperative. it would block coverage for illegal immigrants by using an id verification system. there is another big development unfolding today. we expect in nonpartisan cbo group to put a price tag on all of this. now we find out the cbo analysis is not a typical 10- year. -- period, it is 20 years. the problem is, it is impossible
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to estimate what will happen with a government program in 20 years. martha: we will continue to dig into this for the next few hours. trace: meantime, the fed's are issuing a new threat warning in relation to the terror rains in new york city. officials are alerting local law enforcement personnel to look for explosives or material that could be made into explosives. it all goes back to yesterday when the authorities raided a suspected al qaeda associate. david lee miller has more information. >> is significant is we are hearing about them today, but it was on monday that the fbi and homeland security released these warnings to police. what happened on monday? it was when these raids took
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place in queens. officially, there were no arrests, possibly someone was detained. authorities say that no bomb- making materials for weapons were found. so this is still a mystery. -- or weapons were found. trace: it was also the same day that president obama was in the city. >> there are some links to that, but officials have said, clearly, there is no connection between what took place in queens and the president coming to new york. that is consistent with what i have heard from our sources. if we try to piece together what we know, it does appear that a man of afghani dissent came here over the weekend. possibly he has links to al qaeda. it is believed that he came to
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new york and then returned to his home town of denver, and then the raids were launched. we could possibly learn more if they unseal the search warrant affidavits. trace: it is strange that the warning was issued to every one column all local police. it seems like a pretty focused thing. >> i believe the authorities know a great deal more than what they are releasing. trace: thank you. martha: we have breaking news to tell you about. this comes as joe biden visit baghdad today. four mortars were fired into the green zone today. no indication of any casualties or if they had any buildings, but it raises concerns, as it
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would on any day, also with that knowledge that joe biden is in the area. we will keep an eye on this. no indication of any injuries, that they had had buildings. of course, we will stay on top of this. trace: in other news, a new york judge sentencing a lebanese-born swede for opening up a terror campaign in the u.s. he was convicted on charges of supporting al-qaeda and trying to open the camp in oregon. the judge called him a threat to public safety. after two hours of deliberation, a jury convicted him of 11 charges. the nation's terror alert systems at to get a brand new look. a new task force will recommend reducing the system from five colors to three. each color represents mill level
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of risk to the country. under the current system, green signals a known danger of attack, and read warns of a severe threat. it was briefly at red three years ago when the trans- atlantic liquid bomb explosives plot was uncovered. martha: today, friends, families, and fans are mourning the loss of actor patrick swayze. he lost his battle with pancreatic cancer last night. he was 57 years old. of course, he launched his film career with movies like "the outsiders" and his career started from there. ♪ martha: we all member this one. he became an end -- an eternal
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heartthrob. it was in that movie where we really discovered him. then he hit the jackpot again in the very loved the movie "ghost." he spent most of his life on his ranch with his wife. we will have much more on his life and legacy later. new developments to tell you about this afternoon in the brutal murder of yale graduate annie le. the medical examiner is about to release the autopsy results and the cause of death. what happened in that lab? and another acorn tape is on the way, we are told.
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you lie" that president obama last week. in the middle box, admiral mike mullen, the chairman of the joint chiefs, telling congress that winning the war in afghanistan will probably mean sending more troops. in the bottom box, a note of optimism from ben bernanke who says the worst recession since the 1930's is probably over. tell that to the 26 million americans out of work. he says the economy is growing but may not be enough to stop the unemployment rate from going up. martha: the medical examiner has the autopsy results for annie le. new haven police say that her murder breeder her murder is not a random act and say -- her murder is not a random act and say that areas of the building
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were only accessible by students and staff. investigators found her body on sunday, the day she was to be married. now there is new information coming out in this case. rick leventhal is in connecticut with the latest. what are investigators saying? >> they continue to say there are no arrests imminent. but we are expecting to hear from the medical examiner in a couple of hours about the actual cause of death. yesterday, they confirmed the body was hers and she was murdered, but they did not say how. now that they are ready to tell us how she died suggest maybe the investigation is moving forward rather quickly. there are many reports in local media that they have identified a suspect.
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police will not confirm any of this, so we are waiting for an update. martha: i am curious about the feeling on campus, as well as bloody clothing that was found and who they believe that belongs to. >> we have heard that those clothes were found over the weekend and do not match the close that annie le was wearing, and the suspicion is that it belonged to the killer. dna testing has been done on some of those pieces of clothing, so we should know something soon. in the meantime, security on campus is being increased. they are adding some bike patrols and they also say that the building which this occurred is still safe because only
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certain members are given access. there are ways around, though. >> this particular medical complex is 1 mile from campus and is crossed by public streets, which makes security even more important. that is why every yale building has a card reader that you need to pass your magnetic i.d. card through to gain entry. that this house investigators now that she entered the building at 10:00 in the morning and why they also have a list of everyone inside the building that day. however, down the road, we saw several people do what is called tailgating. they are behind someone who is white their current and they walk in the -- swipes their card
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and their mark in behind them. martha: wants to come out on this today. thank you --lots t -- lots to come out today. thank you. trace: local police say that have athey have a suspect in mi. with me now is a local reporter. what can you tell me? >> we had sources confirm to us yesterday that police are re- interrogating a lot of people inside the building. we know one of them is a lab technician. so we do not know, we cannot confirm if he is the prime suspect.
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trace: what about these stories that we are hearing about defensive wounds on a potential suspect. what are you learning about that? >> we have not been able to confirm anything about that. we know there are a few number of people that they are questioning right now. the school president said to the community yesterday that he is confident able to catch the perpetrator, simply because not just any student can get into the building. you have to be specially authorized. trace: we were talking about the fact that autopsy results could be released at any time. what do we hope to glean from these results, and is this a sign that police are focusing in on their first suspect -- there suspect? >> we -- their suspect? >> we believe so.
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this autopsy should help them narrow down what has already been a short list of suspects. trace: thank you. martha: another undercover acorn video will be released today, we are told, adding fuel to the fire. so what is next in the scandal? and wait until you hear what the president is being asked of in respect to acorn. and you think your kids are safe when they go onto the school bus. a brutal beating caught on tape. wait until you see what the other students did.
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pittsburgh, pennsylvania. president obama speaking to the afl-cio. there are about 15 minutes early. the focus of the speech, jobs, education, and health care. let's listen. [applause] >> thank you. [applause] thank you so much, everybody. please. [applause] you know, the white house is pretty nice, but there is nothing like being back in the house of labor. [applause] let me begin by recognizing a man that came to washington to fight for the working men and women of pennsylvania and who
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has the distinguished record of doing just that, arlen specter. [applause] i want to give my thanks and the thanks of our nation to one of the great labor leaders of our lives, whose life has been devoted to working people, bringing new life to a movement, working tirelessly on behalf of organized workers and who will be stepping down tomorrow, your president, john sweeney. [applause] john, i know you maureen is looking forward to seeing more of you. granddaughter is about to get a whole lot more spoiled.
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but we are so proud of the work that you have done. i know it is bad but to congratulate someone before they are officially elected, but i'm going to take my chances and congratulate the man who will pick up the mantle. the grandson of a pennsylvania coal miner, a man who fought for the miners of pennsylvania. rich trumpka. [applause] i also want to congratulate the officers coming in with rich. liz, who will be making history as the first woman elected secretary-treasurer. i am looking forward to working
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with every single one of them. being here with all of you is a reminder of what we are trying to do in washington and why i am there in the first place. it was one of the fundamental reasons i ran for president, to stand up and fight for hard- working families, to ease the struggles, to lift the hopes and make possible the dreams of middle-class americans. your stories are what drives me each and every day in the white house, stories i read about in letters or read about in town hall meetings, or somebody grabs me and tells me, stories i remember from the campaign trail. stories like one told by a proud member of the united
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steelworkers in indiana. he spent 34 years at lbt steel until a car accident forced him to retire. when the company went broke, he lost his pension and his family lost their health care. he said, every day of my life, i said at the kitchen table across from the woman who devoted 36 years of her life to my family, and i cannot afford to pay for her health care. as he said it, he got choked up, his voice started to crack. brothers and sisters, this is not just about steve, this is about all of us. with hard-working americans like him succeed, that is an organized labor succeeds. when organized labor succeeds,
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that is when our middle-class succeeds. when the middle-class succeed, that is when the united states succeed. that is what we are fighting for. [applause] for over half a century, the success of america has been built on the success of our middle class. it was the creation of the middle class that lifted this nation up in the wake of the great depression. it was the expansion of the middle-class that opened the door of opportunity to millions more. it was a strong middle class that covered american industries and propelled america's economy and made the 21st century the american century. and the fundamental test of this
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century, of our time, is whether we will heed this lesson, whether we will allow america to become a nation of the very rich and poor, the house, and have not, or whether we will remain true to the promise of this country to build a future where the success of all of us is built on the success of each of us. [applause] that is the future i want to build. that is the future of the afl- cio wants to build. that is the future the american people want to build. that is the future that i have been working to build from the moment i took office. [applause]
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now, we have been hearing all lot of stuff from folks who are not all the friendly to me -- [laughter] -- or the union movement. let's take a stroll down memory lane and remember where we were when i took office a little more than eight months ago. at the time, folks were fearing the complete collapse of our financial system. our economy was shedding about 500,000 jobs a month. credit markets were frozen. folks could not get a car loan, home loan, they could not get a student loan if they needed it. one was a deep recession threatened to become a great depression you remember that, right?
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ok. that is why we acted. boldly and swiftly, to pass an unprecedented economic recovery act. a plan that did not include any of the usual earmarks or pork barrel spending, but what it did include was a guarantee to of all a decent and prevailing wage. [applause] because the recovery act, we are keeping a promise that i made to 90% of you, 9% of americans a tax cut that will benefit nearly 5 million families in pennsylvania. we increased and extended unemployment insurance to 12 million americans, including hundreds of thousands of pennsylvania and. we made sure they could get
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health insurance if they were looking for a job because cobra was too expensive by reducing by 60%, so a lot of families were able to hang onto their health care, even in the downturn. we are putting americans to work across the country, rebuilding crumbling roads and bridges and waterways with the largest investment in our infrastructure since eisenhower created the interstate highway system in the 1950's. [applause] all in all, many middle-class families will see their income go up by about $3,000 because of the recovery act. helping them get back of much of what they have lost due to the recession. i know times are still tough for working people. i know too many people are still
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looking for work or worried there will be the ones -- next ones let go. but we have stopped our economic freefall. that is something that everyone can agree on. but here is the problem. even before this last financial crisis, the economy had problems. just last week a census report showed in 2008, before the downturn, family income fell to its lowest point in over a decade and more families slid into poverty. folks, at the top 1%, they did pretty good. everybody else saw saw their wages and income fund. that is unacceptable.
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i refuse to allow america to go back to the culture of irresponsibility and agreed that made it possible, back to an economy with soaring ceo salaries and shrinking middle class incomes. back to the days when that decision were made. we are not going to go back to those days. it would be bad for the union, the middle class, and for the united states of america. we are not turning back, we are moving forward. [applause] we are not turning back, we are moving forward. that is why we need to build a new foundation for lasting prosperity by creating the jobs of the future. by reforming our health care
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system. by laying down tough rules of the road to protect consumers from abuse. let the market to function fairly and freely, and ensure we never experienced a crisis like this again. that is how we will build an economy that works for working americans. that is how we will help our children climb higher than we did. that is how we will grow our great american middle class. >> [inaudible] >> i love you, too, sister. [applause] it sounds like you have been hollering too much. [laughter] we are going to grow our middle- class with policy that benefit you, the american worker. as john sweeney noted, i said of a middle-class task force to do that, run by my outstanding
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vice-president, that scrappy kid from scranton, pa., joe biden. [applause] we will grow our middle class by building a stronger labor movement. that is why hilda solis, daughter of a union member, it is our new labor secretary. [applause] hilda and i know, in good and bad economic times, labor is not the problem, they are the solution. that is why we have been replacing old anti-labor executive order, policies that protect your safety and your right to organize and
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collectively bargaine. [applause] that is why the first bill i signed into law was the lilly- ledbetter act to uphold the better pay. that is why i stand behind the employee free choice act. [applause] a majority of workers, if they want a union, they can get a union. [applause] we will grow a are middle-class by creating jobs for americans who want one, not just any job, but jobs with good wages and benefits. jobs that give the person the satisfaction that they can meet the responsibilities of their
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families. jams thajobs that are not just e of income, but of respect. earlier today i was in youngstown, ohio. this plant was rehiring about 1000 workers to make the cars of tomorrow. that is a sign of life in our auto industry, and i am pleased to see it. [applause] you know what? i do not want to see just drums return to the auto industry. i want to see them created across the country in every industry, while we are investing in a clean energy economy that will create millions of new jobs that cannot be outsourced. that is why i named a new point person to jump-start american manufacturing so that we can make "made in america" not just
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a slogan, but a reality. [applause] [applause] we will grow our middle-class by doing a better job of educating our sons and daughters. as the g.i. bill strength in the middle class in the 20 century, our generation deserve the same kind of commitment, and that is why we are holding ourselves accountable, making college and advanced training more affordable, and offering students complete and competitive education, from the cradle to the classroom. that is how we will prepare every child in america. not just some, but every child
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in america. [applause] and yes, we will grow at our middle-class by filing providing quality, affordable health insurance in this country. health care cannot wait. [applause] [applause] few have fought for this cause harder, if you have championed it longer than you, our brothers and sisters in organized labor. you are making the phone calls, showing up and rallies, because you know what this is so important. it is not just about the
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millions of without health insurance but the hundreds of millions who do. americans who worry they will lose their insurance if they lose their job, who fear their coverage will be denied because of a pre-existing condition. in fact, a new report from the kaiser family foundation was released today, showing family premiums rose more than 130% over the last 10 years. three times faster than wages. we now average $13,000 a year, the highest amount on record. which is why when you go to negotiate, you cannot even think about negotiating a salary wage increase, because the negotiations are just about keeping the benefits you have to. that is not the fault of the employer but the fault of their broken health care system that is sucking up all the money. when are we going to say enough is enough?
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how many workers have to lose their coverage? how many families have to go into the red because of basic loved one? how much longer are we going to have to wait? it cannot wait. [applause] >> we can't wait! >> we can't wait. we have talked to this issue to death, year after year, decade after decade. that is why i said last week before a joint session of congress, the time for bickering is over. the time for games has passed. now it is the time for action.
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now is the time to deliver on health insurance reform. the plan i announced will offer more security and more stability to americans who have insurance. it will offer insurance to american to do not, and it will slow the growth of health care costs for families, as well as government. if you already have insurance through your job, and because many of you or members of unions, you do, nothing in the plan will require you or your employer to change your coverage, or your doctor. let me repeat, nothing will require you to change your coverage or doctor. what this will do is make your insurance work better for you. it will no longer be called for an insurance and company to deny you because of a pre-existing condition. it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it
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most. they will not be able to play some replace some arbitrary cap on how much you can receive in may -- place some arbitrary cap on how much you can receive in one year. [applause] insurance companies will be required to cover at no extra charge routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopy is. there is no reason we should not be catching these types of diseases before they get worse. it makes sense, saves money, and it will save lives. that is what we are offering to people who already have health insurance, more stability and security. for the tens of millions who do not have health insurance, the second part of the plan will finally offer them -- offer you
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-- and affordable choice. we will do this with a new exchange marketplace where businesses can -- and individuals can shop for a health plan that works for them. and because they are one group, they have leverage. they can drive down the cost of care. that is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. that is how everyone in congress, including everyone who is critical of government, how they get theirs. it is time to give every opportunity to americans that members of congress did to themselves -- did to themselves -- give to themselves. [applause] i have also heard that there should be a public option in this exchange -- [applause]
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let me -- [applause] let me be clear. there has been a lot of misinformation about this. it would only be an option. nobody would be forced to choose it. what it would do is offer americans more choices and promote real competition and put pressure on private insurance to make their policies affordable and treat their customers better. when you are talking with some of your friends, neighbors, they might say, that sounds good, but how are you going to pay for it? that is a legitimate question. i inherited a $1.30 trillion deficit when i came into office. that is the other thing that people have been selective about. it is a legitimate question. how are we going to dig ourselves out of this financial
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hole? then to try to answer. the plan i am proposing cost $900 billion over 10 years. that is real money, although that is less that meat -- and this band in iraq and afghanistan, less than the tax cut for the wealthiest americans that congress passed in the previous administration. wars and tax cuts that were not paid for and deliver our deficit, and did not help american families. [applause] we will not make that mistake again. we cannot pay for health insurance reform by adding to the deficit. i will not sign a bill that adds to the deficit, either now or in the future. we will pay for and by
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eliminating hundreds of the millions of dollars in fraud and abuse, including billions in subsidies for insurance companies that have their profits but are not improving care. [applause] we will also set up a commission of doctors, medical experts, to encourage the adoption of common-sense best practices that can further reduce costs and raise quality. that is how we will pay for most of this plan, by using money that is already being spent in the health care center, but being spent badly. do not pay attention to those stories of how medicare benefits will be cut. that will not have been on my watch. we will protect medicare. it is a safety net that they can count on today, tomorrow. not $1 from the medicare trust fund will go to this plan. [applause]
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these are the reforms i am proposing. these are the reforms labor has been championing. these are the reforms the american people need. these are the reforms i intend to sign into law, the quality health insurance, at a good education, a strong labor movement, jobs that cannot be shipped overseas. that is how we will grow the middle class. that is how we will put the american dream within reach. the battle for opportunity has always been fought in places like pittsburgh, places like pennsylvania. it was here where pittsburgh rail workers rose up in a rail strike. it was here where homestead workers took on carnegie. it was here where there was a
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small town that was tough for workers in the 1930's. labor had no rights. the company hire workers from different lands and races to better keep them divided, it was thought at the time. but despite threats and harassment, this might seem organizers fired and driven out of town, the steelworkers came together, served as a croat, and italian, greek, son of alabama slaves, gold miners, and they took their case to the supreme court, during the right to organize up and down and across america. i know if america can come together like that and rise above. of race and region and party,
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then we will not only make life better for steelworkers like steve in indiana, not just for members of the afl-cio, but we will make possible the dreams of middle-class families and realize the promise of the united states of america for everyone. that is what we are fighting for. that is what this white house is committed to. that is what the afl-cio is committed toarm in arm. arm in arm, we are going to get this done. are you fired up, ready to go? >>yes! >> yes! trace: that was president obama speaking at the afl-cio. apparently the president is very
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fired up. let's bring in our senior political analyst, brit hume. it was supposed to be mostly about the economy but in my opinion, it was more about health care. he brought back up the public option and talked a lot about this thing being deficit- neutral, which allowed of studies say that that is hard to support. >> [no audio] usually of an election year, not an off year. it was very much an appeal to the core constituency of his party to stand with him on health care. he is probably going to have to support the labor movement on a couple of major issues, one of them being carted track, which he supported, -- card check,
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which he supported, where you could get people to organize to form a union. that is considered controversial and is not likely to pass congress. he also did not give any indication of what many considered inevitable, and the abandonment of the so-called public option. he spoke favorably of bid and said it could be an option. when he mentioned that, the audience cheered that more than anything else that he said. he is in a situation where he is trying to rally labor behind him. martha: i cannot help but wonder what he had for lunch with bill clinton. you wonder what they talked
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about yesterday, if he turned to him at all to say things are not going well. that is one thought that i had. he also packaged together than $900 billion and made it small, less than we spent on tax cuts for the rich and for these wars, so it is not that much money. >> the problem with that is it contradicts some of the official estimates from neutral parties. it talks about a 10-year period where the benefits would not begin to flow for a couple of years but taxes and other inflows of money would begin immediately. if you are going to pick a decade, this is the one to pick, even though some say it costs more than he said. also, in order to believe that that number is correct, you have to believe there are hundreds of millions of dollars that can be saved from existing medicare
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programs that is readily available. if it was that easy, it would have happened. the idea that particularly the elderly find were some is that these sorts of things can be done from existing outlays without affecting the medical services they have come to rely on. there are weaknesses in his case, no doubt, but he is doing what any smart politician would do. trace: our senior political analyst, always great to talk to you. it is also important to note, the federal government has never saved on any federal program -- save as much money on any federal program as they claim they can. martha: coming up, yet another development in the acorn story. another tape is expected to be
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released after 5:00 today. here is why the story is so remarkable. this is what never happens. first, two 20-somethings did some undercover investigative journalism, and within days there is some action. the filmmakers, who you see here, they went into several offices of acorn. they have received taxpayer money. the employees tell them that they would be happy to give them a loan to begin a house of prostitution and to smuggle under age girls into the country.
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martha: so the senate voted last night, 83-7, to ban funding to the house an arm of acorn. now you have the brooklyn d.a. and an investigation that could reveal more. acorn claims that the tapes were edited and doctor and that the pair never received the loan they came in for. fox news did not shoot the footage, it was brought to us. people have been asking questions about acorn for years, though. there were voter fraud accusations, and it really to of these two in laughable, cliche costumes to get to this point. so what is the larger meaning of this, if there is one? more on this with a former secretary state of ohio ken blackwell.
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good to have you here. what do you make of this? having worked in the housing and urban development department, what do you make of this? >> it is a very curious pattern of fraud and waste. the best light you could put on this is that acorn is vastly and inexcusably sloppy. the worst light would be is a conspiracy to commit crimes against the taxpayers of the u.s. what ever is the truth, and it might be somewhere in between those two poles, i believe this war to an investigation. acorn is under investigation in 11 states. there have been accusations and convictions of voter registration from. now we have -- voter registration fraud.
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now we have evidence of a curious pattern to undermine the taxpayers in the area of housing. martha: you wonder when you see three instances of this on tape, you wonder what is not making it on tape and what other things could be going on here. talk about the responsibility of housing and urban development, where you were an undersecretary. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> the office of the inspector general of hud should the need- deep in an investigation for all of us to see. they were talking about committing fraud against taxpayers of this country. it is a shame. there are organizations like the national urban league, organizations in philadelphia,
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in new york, that are undermined when you let this sort of nonsense go unchecked. martha: are you feeling that there is enough outrage to hold their feet to the fire, this is under your per view, hud, so do something about this? >> we are asking people to call the office of the inspector general and demand an investigation of this activity. and to make a determination that it is outlandish, sloppy, or if it is, in fact, criminal. martha: good to have you. let me bring in my panel now. we have stephen hays and juan
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williams. as i was working on this story today, i looked to see if anybody else was talking about it, but the story is not out there. the senate is voting to ban funding and there is a d.a . investigation, how is nobody covering this? >> it is amazing. earlier this morning charlie gibson did an interview with a local affiliate and he was asked about this question and he said, i have no idea what you are talking about. there's nothing about this in the "new york time" despite the fact that this took place in brooklyn. i have the "washington post" today, and the story comes under a story about intersex fish in
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the area. martha: is this an important story, does this tap into a deeper web of mispending taxpayer money in the country? >> there have been charges against acorn for some time, even with voter fraud in the 2008 campaign. even last week you had the census bureau cut ties with them for the 2010 census. there is a lot of heat around acorn, and i think it has been started by these videotapes. you mentioned that they say the video tapes are not exactly accurate, but when you have that the size of of a vote in the senate, 83-7, and you get the sense is responding in this way,
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clearly something is happening. acorn is obviously a large organization and able have individual that will be flawed and they say most of their money does not come from the government, but when you have a government official, those in the senate, 83-7, taking action, it is serious. martha: why is this not getting more attention? >> at the moment, people are still waiting for the final judgment of something major. they are not sure about the tapes. i think the senate vote is so overwhelming, in my mind, that he is elected officials obviously feel like there is something they are not comfortable with. martha: even if you want to argue that there is some editing, clearly, there are moments where they say prostitution is not what you should call yourself because then you will not get the money. it is hard to determine how you
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could at that to make it sound like something else. >> acorn is complaining saying that it has been edited. we do not know if that is true. but they have already taken steps to fire the people involved. on the one hand, they are admitting their guilt, on the other hand, they are suspicious. the focus here is the amount of money they have gotten, $53 million since 1994. maybe it is chump change these days, but that is no small amount of money to most people. martha: at some level, organizations should be thankful when they are put under the microscope because they should be spending this money in the most effective way possible, to help people. thank you very much. always great to talk to you both. trace: there is breaking news
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now, a political uproar unfolding on capitol hill over the congressman who shouted "you lie"against president obama's. a resolution of disapproval could, against joe wilson. he already apologized to the president, the president accepted. but the democrats want him to apologize again. jim angle is following the developments from washington, d.c. so wilson apologized, the president expected -- accepted, but here we are again. >> one could be forgiven for thinking that the whole thing was over after the president accepted the apology. not only that, the day after, speaker nancy pelosi said that she'd consider in the matter over -- considered the matter
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over. now democrats have decided they want another round on this and have insisted he apologizes again before the house or the sanctions. -- be sanctioned. trace: what are they talking about specifically? >> they are talking about a resolution of disapproval. that amounts to a mild scolding. in the past, house rules have said that a member could not referred to the president's message as a disgrace to the country. or what has happened -- referring to someone as a half- baked nitwit. [laughter] trace: i do not mean to chuckle, but it is pretty funny.
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what are republicans saying about this? >> they say that they understand why he apologized and this should be the end of it. the republican national committee released a statement today, saying -- democrats don't want an apology, the statement says -- so, trace. a strong letter to follow, but pno apology from the rnc. martha: so it is ok to call someone a half baked and it
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mortars fired near the green zone in baghdad. that is where joe biden was today. there is no word if any of those mortars actually exploded inside the green zone. in the middle box, police in california searching phillip garrido's property. he and his wife are accused of kidnapping and holding jaycee lee dugard captive for 18 years. a new conference is credible or that at the bottom of the hour. in the bottom box, the largest wildfire in los angeles county history is now 91% contained and crews are on track to have a totally surrounded by the weekend. martha: you saw it here live, president obama wrapping up some passionate remarks at an afl-cio convention in pittsburgh.
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he is pressing the labor union to stand with him on health care reform. meanwhile, she has taught lawmakers finding a new way to handle the emerging town halls on this issue by forming a civil forum for conversation. eric cantor will be co hosting one of these events. congressman, good to have you here. what are you trying to do here, with a civil discourse, to bring the focus perhaps back to what matters on both sides? >> i think next week what i will be doing is meeting together with a colleague on the other side of the aisle, bobby scott of virginia. we both represent the greater richmond area. we will be engaging in a very civil discussion about health care reform. obviously, we come from different perspectives but i believe it is very much what the president came to capitol
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hill last week and wanted us to do, which was to set aside the partisan bickering and to try to get down to business to see where we agree so that we can move forward on meaningful health care reform that does not necessarily mean replacing the government for the current system. martha: we listened to the president and heard him say the other side is trying to scare you, that you will be forced into a public option. he said no one would be forced into the public option, which, by the way, he was still pushing for. >> listen, the notion that we can somehow have a government that competes, when the government is also setting the rules, that is counterintuitive. we do not want that in the country. martha: there has been a lot said recently on blogs and in
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the newspapers talking about a racial element to the people who do not like this health care plan. what do you think about that? >> this country has been and will be about public debate. we are premised on the notion of people being able to exercise their right to free speech, so we will have some disagreement. where we do agree is we all reject the status quo. we want to improve the system. we want to bring down costs so that more people can be covered. if we start from that point and first of all guarantee we are not going to have a government takeover and we do not break the bank in what we are trying to do, we can bring the american people to a point where they can realize a better system. martha: what is your reaction to the fact that in some of these grounds, people are holding up signs and they are getting a lot of attention and they do not
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like people who are grouping all of these labels together, calling it racist. >> i would reject that. people came to washington last week on their own time, on their own time. there is something to be said if something are that passion it, congress should reflect that notion and get to work, which is exactly what we are trying to do next week in the form that will be held by our local newspaper in richmond. martha:, to ask you about acorn, because i know you are involved in this as well earlier today, and john painter called on the president to cut all ties -- boehner called on the president to cut all ties with them. we're also hearing that the irs should be cut in all their ties. here is more of a statement.
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do you think they are going to follow through on this? will we see a response from the irs? >> i hope so, and as you know, he is a ranking republican member on the ways and means committee, and has oversight on that committee, over the irs. i think most americans are outraged that the government would be working with an organization that has committed some of the acts that we have seen on your network. i hope weekend and this partnership with the government and people are not rounded, when they call the government, to an acorn office, when you have this type of conduct. martha: what do you think about these filmmakers and the fact that they brought this issue to the fore after so many have been
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trying to put pressure on them? >> it is an instance where you have to say, our country is a democracy and some, if not all good ideas are going to come from the people. they do not come from washington. it is important to the value of our rights to free speech and that we act when we see instances such as this -- just absolute, definitive violations of the law. the government should not have any part of acorn. martha: thank you very much, eric cantor. trace: nothing deal better than a hot shower, right? a new study says it could be wrong. it could be hiding something pretty nasty.
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trace: in the top box, the fda has approved a new h1n1 vaccine. kathleen sebelius said she hoped to get the first limited supplies distributed in early october. in the middle box, the iraqi reporter who through his shoes at george bush released today after spending nine months behind bars. now he is accusing the iraqi guards of beating him. more than a dozen people hurt the day in a slow train collision in boston. the commuter rail train hit a bumper at the end of the station. the train's engineer will be tested for alcohol and drugs. martha: if your morning shower did not wake you up, maybe this
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will. when you take a shower, you could be getting a face full of dangerous bacteria. there are studies that certain showerheads can harbor pathogen's lead to a number of health issues, even among cancer. researchers from the university of colorado found that pass in its -- pathogens were higher in sydney water. one option would be to turn on the water first and let it run for a little bit, and then get in. that would be the best way to reduce the chances of injecting this bacteria which basically becomes part of the water. another piece of advice, change or shower head twice a year. trace: clean the shower head for goodness sake!
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a fox news exclusive now. a special ops team storming two locations looking for drugs and suspects in afghanistan. the money from these sales funding terrorist activitie and. oliver north is with us from kumble, afghanistan. what did they find? >> i could use one of those showers. last night, our fox news team went on a high risk raid, 10 kilometers from the pakistan border. their mission was to take down an opium lab. the force consisted of u.s. dea agents, a special ops team, and special afghan commandos. >> dea has the ability to collect intelligence validated by human sources and to exploit that intermission. -- information.
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we launched before dawn in three helicopters and headed east, not far from the border of pakistan. we touched down just after dawn, a force of more than 40. dea informant led the force to the first target, a way station on an opium rat line. the investigator found what he was looking for. precursor chemicals, opium, pure heroin. >> that is a lot of narcotics. >> yes, it is. >> and it would go to help but tell them? >> that is right. >> drugs and chemicals were deployed with an explosive charge. then in the back to the landing zone for a quick flight to the second objective, a drug processing lab. the teams raided the building and occupants fled, even leaving their children behind.
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dea describes why this location was targeted. >> location this -- this vocation belongs to someone with heavy ties to the taliban. >> the taliban purports to be a deeply religious organization, but they are supported today by the opium trade. with black voters taken into custody, we headed home. estimated street value of the drugs destroyed today, $3 million. one step closer to bankrupting the taliban. trace: [no audio] it is amazing, of the stuff that you were able to shoot. i wanted your opinion on admiral mullen saying they need more
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troops in afghanistan. how bad is the situation on the ground? >> it is not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. there are an increasing number of casualties because americans and their allies are now going to places where the taliban have full sway for years. they need more airlift, more uav's, and more of what we just saw, with the dea taking the lead, using human intelligence on the ground, and really taking it to the taliban on the financial side by taking out the opium trade trace: thank you, oliver north. just crossing the waters, breaking news from northern california. this is antioch. we told you about phillip garrido, the man accused of of
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the thing jaycee lee dugard. there are back at his home now. there will be a news conference because there are significant developments. they are looking in his yard that could lead to the disappearance of two other kids 20 years ago. we are going to give you the latest on this story from northern california as "the live desk" continues. dad, it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. i can't keep anything from you. you better read about plavix. if you have p.a.d., plavix can help protect you from a heart attack or stroke. plavix helps keep blood platelets from sticking together and forming clots- the cause of most heart attacks and strokes. dad don't put this off. p.a.d. more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. promise me you'll talk with your doctor about plavix? i'll do it. i promise. (announcer) if you have a stomach ulcer or other condition that causes bleeding, you should not use plavix.
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trace: this is a fox news alert. they are talking about the dugard case. >> as well in description and pictures of philip garrido from the 1980's in comparison to the police artist sketch done in 1988 by a witness to the objection. for those reasons, we obtained a search warrant for the property inhabited by the garridos as well as the adjacent property that philip garrido had access to. our operations today are being conducted jointly with the police department with the assistance of the alameda sheriff's department, contra costa sheriff's department, and asked the high. our aim is to systematically and
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thoroughly searched the properties with our cases in mind, knowing what we are looking for. the original agency is on the properties searching not familiar with our cases, so we are taking another look to see what we can find. i want to thank the agencies involved in operation. we could not do it alone. this is a medium-sized organization of police, and it is only with the resources of neighboring counties, and the fbi, that we are able to take on a huge undertaking. we understand there is a lot of debris and property to go through. we expect the operation to take days, possibly even into next week at this afternoon's briefing for the media, the mother of the taylor garrett -- trace: the news here is there are two unsolved child adoption
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that happened in 1988 and 1989. they were abducted in 1988 and '89 -- 1989, and that officials say that there are a lot of similarities. now unable spent several days on the garrido property to try to look for evidence that could lead them to the evidence that could lead them to a break in those cases. the case just gets more gruesome. martha: we will keep an eye on that. in political news, republicans eyeing a big target in next year's big term -- midterm elections, harry reid of nevada. he is facing a tough political fight. a recent poll shows he is in a
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virtual tie right now with his main gop challenger danny tartini in. shannon bream is in our washington bureau. you sat down with him today. what does danny believe he has to do to become one of the most senior senators? >> he will continue to hammer any line that any reid challenger would say, saying that it is time for change. he is speaking to a group that he knows will be crucial. >> 22% of nevadans are considered independent. i have been polling well with them. >> that is his hope but he admits it is a long way off. first, he needs to win a republican primary. he told me nobody should be surprised when he will be free.
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martha: how is the senator responding to this? >> he has not specifically responded to these polls. but he continues to take the criticism and turn it around, saying i could be linked to the party and what house, but it only makes him more powerful to get more done on behalf of the people of nevada. also, 36% of his constituents have a favorable rating for the senator. a lot for him to turn around, but as we know, a year in politics is basically an eternity. martha: thank you. trace: there are breaking developments in the war in afghanistan. the top military officers saying victory probably depends on one thing. the question is, will the president of proof that one thing?
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trace: we want to get you updated on what is happening in northern california. authorities are back on the scene at the property of the late garrido. -- phillip garrido. he is accused of kidnapping and raping jaycee lee dugard 18 years ago, holding her captive and father and two daughters. now they are back on the property because there are two other missing children's cases from the san francisco area that happened in 1988 and 1989 . one was 13 years old when she disappeared. the other is a nine-year old. a lot of similarities between the case of jaycee lee dugard. they are on the scene and looking for evidence. if any of inews is made, we will
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report. after eight years in afghanistan, the pentagon is telling congress more troops will probably be needed to beat back the taliban. the chairman of the joint chiefs telling lawmakers he is expecting a request for more forces from his top commander standing, mcchrystal. mileage in afghanistan now at its highest level since the taliban was removed from power in 2001. -- stanley mcchrystal. ambassador john bolton is our guest. the joint chiefs say that it could be between 30,000 and 40,000 troops, but the problem is, this has become a political hot potato. does the general get his troops? >> this was the clearest indication of where mcchrystal could be coming from and how the military feels about it. the real problem for president
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obama is he needs to explain to the american people why this increase will be justified. the fact is, the president is focusing on health care, not explaining the strategic a check -- objectives in afghanistan and support in his party is slipping. that puts him in a difficult position. trace: hillary clinton has said that when it comes to iran talks, they will have to answer questions about their nuclear program. this seems to be a lot of stringing along. how much longer can we let this go on? >> iran has once again cleaned our clocks. by agreeing to the talks, the administration has cut any momentum it had for increased
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sanctions. i think their policy is in disarray. it is troubling because all of this delay means they get closer and closer to a nuclear weapon. trace: "the wall street journal" asking if the president was pushing israel to attacking iran's nuclear sites. what is your answer? >> i think the president is basically absent on the question of iran's nuclear program. in fact, he is looking at the wrong end of the telescope putting pressure on israel. from israel's point of view, they are being point -- forced to look at the possibility of a pre-emptive strike. all of these have profound implications for the u.s. but the president is talking about health care.
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trace: if you could, i read your chess board. no sanctions on iran. you have iran saying they are not going to talk about nuclear weapons. venezuela says that they want nuclear energy. how does this all that? how volatile is this situation getting? >> our non-proliferation policies are failing in different contexts. our president's only answer is to have a meeting at the security council where they are supposed to talk about non- proliferation in general, but not specifically about threats, which is a contradiction in terms. we need a president who returns his focus to national security. our calendars in the world are not considering the public option versus not having the public option. they are threatening our security and we are occupied.
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trace: thank you. martha: hello, shepard. we were lacking how everyone else at the u.s. open. it makes everything more interesting. shepard: it is hard to do our job and watch tennis. by the way, what did you get for your son's birthday? martha: it would be just like you to not know the difference between my kids. happy birthday. shepard: and do you think he wanted a dog? we have one for him. we got them in the mail. i know you love pets. get over it. these are the ugliest dogs.
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that is atrocious. martha: happy birthday, harry. shepard: lindsay graham is going to be on the show today. do you know what he is talking about today? afghanistan. we could probably do dogs for the whole hour. some days are better for calling in sick. but we have to get the news to the people. martha: do not miss it. trace: women loved him in the "dirty dancing" and "goes to" -- "ghost." patrick swayze loses his battle
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officials say that some votes will need to be recounted for some irregularities in last month's elections. martha: dignity, decency, and the finance, in the face of a deadly disease. that is what we're hearing today from many who are remembering patrick swayze. he lost his battle with pancreatic cancer, and he fought like a champion over the past 27 months. here is a look back at his life. ♪ >> he could hold his own against any leading man about patrick swayze was best known for sweeping women off their feet. he learned in those moves growing up in houston, texas. born august 18, 1952, one of five children, his mother was a dance instructor, his father an engineer. it was in his mother's dance
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studio where he met his future wife. the two have been married since 1975. in 1983, he joined tom cruise as one of the outsiders, a movie about two rival gangs. the role of a lifetime for the dancer turned actor came in 1987, "dirty dancing" winning the hearts of women worldwide and a golden globe nomination. his next movie "roadhouse" was another box office success, but he was overwhelmed by sudden fame and hit a low point after the deaths of his father and sister, turning to the alcohol and eventually go into rehab. he said he got through those times with the help of his wife. lightning struck a second time
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when he teamed up with will be gold bird and demi moore in "ghost." he then focused on what he calls more artistic roles, from " waking up in reno" to "to wong fu." three months after shooting the pilot, he reveals he was battling pancreatic cancer. in a january 2009 special, he told barbara walters cancer treatment did not slow him down in shooting. >> nobody on the set ever saw me whine. i got to do a lot of living in my life. i have been on borrowed time since i was 30.
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martha: he was something special. it is interesting to me that he is the child of a dancer and a cowboy, because that is who he was. he was a dancer and a cowboy. trace: everyone says an all- around great guy. martha: our hearts go out to his family. trace: in a few minutes, the chief medical examiner in connecticut could be releasing the autopsy results of annie le. how she died, and whether or not police are closing in on her killer. .
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martha: did you hear this one? apparently president obama called kanye west a jackass. >> yikes. martha: you remember this, kanye west grabbed the microphone from teenage country singer taylor swift to say that beyonce the best video of the year. the president's remark was supposed to be off the record. carrie moran twittered about it. it was removed and abc apologized, but i thought it
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was great of the president. who did look at that and did not want to call him that? trace: that is what my 8-year- old said today. martha: i think the president's comment reflected popular sentiment on this one. thank you for being with us here today at "the live desk." trace: "fox & frien"studio b" st now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- shepard: it was two days ago that the police found the body of 24-year-old annie le stuffed behind the wall of the basement of a building on the campus. the same day that she was to be married. the police say that they have a large amount of physical evidence in this case, but so far they have not officially named
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