against anti-government protesters. reports of beatings once again in the streets of tehran. what it appears to show is consistent with a major crackdown that we saw over the summer. back then, the riot police tried to crush protests involving tens of thousands of iranian people. the message, we will not be silenced. demonstrators claiming their vote did not count in the election. they say the government of

mahmoud ahmadinejad stole the election. more on this story here on "america's newsroom." meanwhile, a stunning development in our nation's capital that may be shaped the political landscape for next year's elections and well beyond. the house votes to defund acorn. that vote total was clear and bipartisan. >> the bill is passed. bill: so we had movement on the senses, and the senate -- cen sus and the senate. megyn: hello, everyone. as you have seen on this

broadcast, undercover video given to box shows acorn employees appearing to encourage illegal activity, mainly to skirt nell law to -- the la the law to build a prostitution business. this is the first time, though, that we are seeing both parties in congress taking notes here. a federally-subsidized organization with a history of possible illegal practices held to account. bill: that brings us to the question, is the group done? steve centanni is in washington. the boats in the house and senate, can we expect acorn to be stripped of federal funding? >> they are going to have some

pretty tough time getting a boat in the future with that decisive vote yesterday in the house, and does not appear that they can be eligible for funding again. the bill was passed -- passed by both houses and they will need to be reconciled eventually before it goes to the president. during that process, there is a possibility the language could change, but given democrats coming down on funding, it looks like these bands will be tentative. bill, the president is a bit of a wild card in this. why is that? >> of course, he is a democrat and a community organizer. the president can veto the bill if he does not like it, but we have not heard about any veto plans. at the very least, it probably

disappointed to see the latest turn of events. the mentioned his past as a community organizer. seeing the bipartisan sentiment in congress, the smart choice for the president might be tuesday, of the conversation. -- to stay out of the conversation. megyn: ruling followed over the president's decision to scrap the european missile defense shield. he says instead of building that, the u.s. will focus its efforts on defending against shorter range missiles from iran with a partly sea-based system. some analysts say it is an attempt to win over moscow on the iran issue, but apparently it has not worked. here is what the foreign minister said.

he said demanding the immediate imposition of sentence against iran would be a serious mistake. in a few minutes, we will speak to a member of the senate arms services committee. did you see "special report" last night? charles krauthammer, i have rarely seen him that forceful on any issue. he calls this an earthquake. very interesting. bill: we are going to speak to james in half to see whether or not -- imhoff whether or not this new technology is the best way to go. there are reports that agents found a bomb-making diagrams on a computer carried by this man. the laptop was in his car as he

drove from colorado to new york city, arriving the day before the eight year anniversary of 9/11. officials searched his home and the room he was staying in the new york. there are searching for evidence. state to and for that. megyn: one of the biggest problems on health care reform could be on shaky ground. a new survey shows that 87% of surveyed companies would cut benefits and health care turned out to cost more. even if you like your health care plan the way it is, it may not be up to you as to whether or not you get to keep it. caroline shively has a breakdown on what employers are saying and what it could mean for you. >> we are getting our first look at this survey of business

executives. here is the question they asked -- here are their answers. 87% would reduce benefits. 38% would likely pass increases to consumers. 30% would and toward costs by cutting staff. that is exactly what a lot of reform critics would say what happened, and this is likely a worry for proponents. the survey is pretty small, only about 443 executives admitted to big level companies. this survey also gives a window into what companies are willing to give. 37% said they would extend the minimum level. 29 percent time when drug company-sponsored health coverage and pay the fine if it was lower than their current cost 26% would provide current health coverage at a minimum

standard. a very interesting survey that is giving us a window into what would personally happen to us if we see reforms. megyn: 87% say that they are going to cut benefits or do something else to recoup their costs. 29% say that they will dump it all together. you can go on what ever public plan is out there. thank you. bill: a family gets some unexpected dinner guests. we will show you how close this encounter got. not the kind of saying -- thing you want to see every day. megyn: and a dramatic shift in the u.s. missile defense strategy. what kind of threat does iran's missile technology pose?

and does the changes announced by president obama yesterday just only appeased moscow? we will speak with a senator about that. bill: also some name calling on the hill. the speaker of the house. we will take a look at the language on both sides. >> i have some concerns about the language that is being used. i saw this myself in the late 1970's in san francisco, this kind of rhetoric was frightening.

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le. several people who work with raymond clark are coming forward describing him as a control freak. they say he had problems with the scientists working there along with the doctoral students. he declined to enter a plea at his arraignment and police say he is not whether to talk about a possible motive. police will only say that the murder is ensample of workplace violence, and reports that the two had a romantic relationship were not true. bill: date two since the president announced the new missile defense plan which is a major shift that was pursued by the former president. the u.s. scrapping plans for a missile defense system in europe, instead focusing on short-range missile threat from iran. it is said to be a more mobile

system. will the shift keep the u.s. and its allies to pay for? james in half is with us. -- imhoff is with us. what do you think? >> we worked very hard, and i was involved with the czech republic, along with us to put a radar there to give us intersection capability. we tried to do that, they took a risk, and all of a sudden, we pulled the rug out from under them. that is terrible for our image. yes, i understand we have an advanced patriot to them. those are for short and mid- range missiles coming in. if one were to come from iran to the u.s., we would have to

intercept it at the midcourse range. we would have that capability -- would not have that capability with what obama is talking about until 2018. with the bush administration, 2013. my concern is we will have no defense from anything coming from iran for those five years. bill, the president said that we are going to develop a system, we are not abandoning the system, just a different route. i think you will agree with me that technology is getting better and better. who is not to say that the new system might be more efficient? >> let's keep in mind that they are getting better as well. iran fired a 3-stage missile over the summer. they are aware -- they are ahead

of where we think they are. i am concerned more about their technology. if we stay with these three systems, those are short and medium-range systems. they would not be able to knock out something aimed at the u.s. perhaps that would take care of the problem in europe, but that still leaves us naked for five years. bill: you have an ally in the washington -- "washington post." here is what they've read in an editorial. robert gibbs says there was no quid quo pro. now russia has said they are not going to push for any new sanctions but a lot of folks are trying to figure out, why did we get into this? you know next week when the u.n.

comes to new york, this will be one of the main topics of discussion. now white house leadership is getting together with iranian leadership. are they laying the groundwork for something more significant? >> i do not know, but i know russia and iran are celebrating this decision. those people who have been the courageous ones, the ones in the soviet union, they are the ones that have been our allies. poland, the czech republic, they have been with us in iraq, they have been our friends, and all of a sudden, we are abandoning them. bill: it has been described by some as a retreat. do you agree? >> there are three phases of a rocket. let's say it came from iran.

the only place where we could knock it down, once they get that capability, would be the midcourse phase. we would have to have a system to knock it down. i assure you the sm3 and patriot missile would not be able to do that. if you look at the obama budget, however, they have reduced spending to those programs. bill, thank you, it james in half -- inhofe. megyn: investigators say they have plenty of evidence connecting raymond clark to the murder of annie le, but what could be the motive for a crime like this? they wind -- they both work and a lab and she and up asphyxiated. possible new clues and new

revelations about what could have been going on. bill: also, nancy pelosi says she has seen it before. rhetoric on health care that is so heated, it reminds her at a time where politics turned deadly. it is the comparison fair?

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close to a home. in this youtube world, what do you do? you grab your camera. >> my gosh, i'm shaking. my goodness, there is a bear in the front yard. >> there was a london oil that was half the and over there. bill: they found some characters inside that house, did they? there is some great video and at the house. neighbors believe they are trying to fill their bellies before hibernation. megyn: people have been telling me in preparation for the baby, sleep now. i tell them, we are not theirs, that is not the way it works -- bears, that is not the way it works.

he might have pulled off what critics of acorn may have found hard to achieve. and independent filmmaker disguised as a pimp, exposing employees of acorn exposing illegal activities. now his actions have led to congressional action. they may keep your tax dollars from being sent to acorn. and joining me now is the founder of the website where the video first appeared on. good morning. you were with us the morning the story broke. now in a few weeks' time, the response from the fed's has been

stunning. for years, the democrats did not want to sign onto anything that reduced funding for acorn, but now we see these majorities noting to cut off funding. what is your reaction? >> i am grateful the american public has realized this is a serious problem that their elected representatives are taking their concerns seriously. predictably, and why we brought these videos out one by one, we set traps for the acorn to lie every time. they continue to go to the mainstream media and told those lines. the next day, those previous day's lies were exposed.

the behavior of the president of cnn has been despicable during this period they continue to impugn james and hanna than they were kicked out of the office says. there are more videos to come. they continue to say that they were kicked out of some of these offices. megyn: bertha lewis, the chief organizer -- essentially, the ceo -- first came down and said that this was defamatory. for anyone who would touch the story, they are going to be sued. then they said that they tried this a couple of times and failed.

actually, they succeeded. are there more tapes to come? >> absolutely. cnn, in particular, i have spoken to their producers try to find aspects of the story which are false. i have said to them james and hanna will appear on your network, if you show a small segment of the american audience -- who still watches that channel -- and let them decide, just like congress did, just like al franken did. even before the mainstream media picked up on this, what did he know about this? on these videos you see the truth. megyn: in their defense, at least they covered it.

virtually no media has been covering this, in particular, the big three. >> i will credit katie couric and the cbs evening news. they cover this. more importantly, it has already cycled through "the daily show" and the "tonight show." so if there are making jokes at the expense of acorn, but they refuse to cover it, there is something desperately wrong with the mainstream media. that is why we've rolled these out one at a time. we want to expose not only acorn as corrupt, but also the way that these networks would cover the story, like the story with van jones. megyn: when you have lawmakers

voting against this, it has got to be on the cable channels, not just a fox news. they come back and say that the video is added to it, that it is doctored. you will make those tapes available. is there any the various, secret game going on here? -- nefarious, secret game going on here? >> it is true that we have done some acting, that we have provided a transcript of the full experience, and nadia, so you can hear everything in context. we have derided the media the opportunity to get the video in its entirety. they are lying saying that these people manipulated the tape to make them sound like they said

things that they did not. again, cnn -- if you have seen theresa from san bernadino, she says she was playing games with them because she felt threatened. why did she walk across the street to a man who taught them how to open up a brothel? how did they make that arrangement. -- make that arrangement? how did they know so much about 501-3's? it is the most disgusting thing ever, and cnn will not even look at the transcript to realize the obviousness of these desperate lies. megyn: good questions that remain to be answered. again, biggovernment.com. thank you for being here.

and you just mentioned bertha lewis, the acorn chief organizer. she will be a our guest this weekend, along with their elisa -- darrell issa. and in a few moments, for the first time, guess who you will hear from? the man who founded acorn. he ran it as the chief executive officer, for 38 years. he was thrown on a year ago after he covered up his brother's embezzlement of $1 million, but this is the man behind the organization. for the first time ever, he sat down with a television interview with yours truly. you will see some stunning news from the interview which we will show for you when we have our documentary on acorn next week.

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for the evidence that say a second the rest could have been for a possible accomplice that helped him hide the body. police found le's body last sunday afternoon stuffed inside a wall inside of the research lab. here is the young university president tried to make sense of the crime. >> what happened here could have happened anywhere. it says more about the dark side of the human soul than it does about anything else. bill: we are trying to get to the how and why with bob massie today. a sick and twisted story this is. the police chief describes it as a workplace by lead act. i am trying to figure that out -- violent act. i'm trying to figure out what

that is. >> most of the time, we see things like someone getting fired and then going to the bank and firing. lots of times you hear lots of retaliatory action for something. this is peculiar because what has been reported, he was concerned about how she was treating the mice. i do not think there was any domestic relationship going on, and perhaps underneath he was jealous that she was getting married, but this was different because of how trite an issue and how horrendous the result. bill: that is true. we have not been told about any sexual abuse. maybe they had a relationship within the workplace. none of that has been proven.

he sent a text message complaining about the condition of the mice. >> honest to god, i look at this and think, how do you go from being upset about something like that and then killing someone? i think the words of the president or pretty perspective -- perceptive and how dp has looked into this. we never know who we are dealing with some times, who they are inside their head. it may have started as a simple argument, a heat of passion thing that you often see in domestic violence cases, where there and of being a manslaughter charge, the acceleration of an argument, perhaps something that was perceived to be condescending. from what we have reported, he is a control freak. the thing that is worst is what he allegedly did after he put

her into the wall. allegedly, there could be an accomplishece. bill, that brings us to the why. we have also heard that there was a previous girlfriend of hers that had to file for a restraining order. now there is a question about how. strangulation was the method of death, according to the corner. that involves hand-to-hand contact. -- to the coroner. >> they called it "traumatic asphyxiation." they sort of describe the scene as a pipe on choking you around the neck. god rest her soul and what the family is going through, but this was probably a violent way

of death, there are allegedly marks on his body. so there was a struggle. this beautiful young woman who had nothing but a great future thought as good as she could to save her own life. unfortunately, we know that there was no one else around in the area and, yes, it was a violent death. bill: apparently they have all lot of forensic evidence. thank you. again, our sympathies and prayers. >> please, tell megyn i wish her and her husband nothing but a healthy baby. megyn: thank you so much. speaker pelosi yesterday became so concerned about the language in the health-care debate, she nearly came to tears.

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when it comes to health care reform. >> i have concerns about some of the language that is being used because i saw this myself in the late 1970's in santa's go, this kind of rhetoric was frightening. megyn: she talked about the murder of harvey milk. in that particular address, she did not mention republicans, but later that day, she sent out a letter blaming the language on the gop. she said -- as she turned a deaf ear to her side of the aisle? in the past two months, there is a sampling of comments from democratic leadership about those vocally opposing health care reform, calling them un-

american. steny hoyer has described them as very rabid people. the fear mongers, from harry reid. on and on it goes. birthers, tea baggers, and finally, accusing them of acting like brownshirt nazis. with me now is a fox news contributor. it is stunning. she breaks down in tears almost, and her point is a good one, but to blame it on one side without taking responsibility, when she begins her remarks by saying we have to take responsibility? >> i have the same thought you did. if she would have stopped after the first sentence, that people

should tone it down and people should be disturbed by this rhetoric, i would have agreed with her. he pointed out, in this press conference, as well as in this fund raising letter, she suggested that this may lead to violence. one of the things we need to do is take a look at the big picture on this. the number of democratic elected officials who have been using very incendiary rhetoric, whereas on the other side, -- and it is still a small number -- you see people at town hall meetings saying things and carrying signs that i believe is over , but these are not alone -- these are not government officials. megyn: nancy pelosi and steny hoyer wrote an op-ed that called those making their voices heard un-american.

then president carter says that some of them are racist. the vitriol, to the extent that it is coming from lawmakers, is coming from democratic lawmakers. what should nancy pelosi due to rein in her side on this? >> it is important to look at what jimmy carter said. many have said things that are extreme, but they have acknowledged that they are talking about a small fringe. even though they are playing rhetorical games, suggesting this is a broader phenomenon, they have been careful not to actually say that. the jimmy carter said this, saying most of the animosity toward barack obama comes from the fact that they do not like that he is black. that is an extraordinary claim

to make and i think he should be apologizing for it. megyn: it really does ratchet up the rhetoric. some have said that she is comparing the health care bill to an assassination? does that not just pour fuel on the fire? no one wants to see violence coming from this health care debate, but so far, there has been little, if any of it. >> there are people on both sides of the debate who are whacky, who do things that are foolish and deserve to be admonish for it. if people are going to a town hall and you see somebody next to you carrying a hitler sign, it would be nice to say, that is crazy, that is not what we need. megyn: may not be the person you

feel comfortable approaching, but it is a good point. >> if we had enough people, it could change the tone of the debate. these people going to these rallies are everyday americans, the vast majority of them concerned about overspending. politicians are trying to score political points from that. bill: it is amazing how people can read minds. we are watching the desperate man hunt for an escaped mental health prisoner. he has killed before and doctors fear his medication could be wearing off. why was this in may taken to the state fair? megyn: it is still the biggest question in washington, paying for health care reform. maybe it is not about adding to cost, but to attracting benefits.

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bill: how is your bank account looking these days? apparently with americans, they are up a little bit, largely from the stock market. when mass of foreign trade deals, -- are made, they are done in u.s. dollars. now in the year and is backing india to change that and create a new global currency. if that is the case, what does it mean for you? david lee miller, how serious is this idea? >> right now, not a very serious, but it does pose a threat. who doesn't love the u.s. dollar? apparently, some economists at the united nations recently released a report which said part of the world's recent

financial crisis is to be blamed on trade imbalances as well as the current system of currency and capital rules. like it or not, the dollar remains the most popular currency in the world, the standard by which all others are judged. when you trade commodities they always use the u.s. dollar. beyond that, just about every other country has reserves for a rainy day, and those are also u.s. dollars. why? they are seen as the most stable. critics point out that developing countries are giving the u.s. and interest-free loan. if the united nations were to get its way, that would be able to u.s. prestige and could cause problems to the economy trillions of dollars worth here radically to be poured into the world economy. the heritage foundation points out that the u. n, with this

report, is taking another swipe -- u.n., with this report, is taking another swipe at the u.s. >> this is certainly an effort, i believe, an effort to undermine the dollar as a global currency. the u.n. does have a long track record of anti-americanism. this is just the latest example. >> one other quick concern, the chorus against the dollar could grow if critics say the obama administration continues to increase the deficit. if there is going to be any change, it is going to be years or decades away. bill: in the meantime, president obama making a push for health- care reform. new polls showed he is having a tough time getting americans on board. so who is he asking for help?

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megyn: new questions in the senate over the future for the new health care bill adds a new poll shows nearly half of americans do not want to see an overhaul of the health-care system. throwing down on the claim that every american wants health care reform. in fact, 46% polled say they prefer the current system and 37% say they prefer the president's plan. that is where we begin on this new hour of the "america's newsroom." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the

national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill, that pulling comes only days after max baucus unveiled his version of the health care bill in so far there is little support. megyn: some of the harshest attacks coming not from republicans but from democrats. molly henneberg has more from washington. democrats are the ones coming out and taking apart the bill, put together by a democrat. >> it is also in the house. there are 17 moderate and progressive democrats telling the speaker that there has to be in government-run option. this latest letter was put together by the california rep resentative and 14 other democrats. they want to reiterate their support for a robust health insurance option that will

provide greater choice for american consumers. speaker pelosi reiterated that the bill would include that public option, but it was not included in senator baucus' plan. megyn: it seems like this is where we were even before the baucus bill. nancy pelosi said nothing would pass in the house if it did not have a public auction, but not everyone is expecting for them to get around a table to have a conference committee and they are going to have to iron it out. that have been behind closed doors, so it is scary. in the meantime, republicans are stepping up their attacks on democrat claims that if you like your insurance, you will not have to change it. for those injured by their employers, pretty much nothing

will change. >> you will be hearing more about this idea and the republicans heading back. the bill requires the department of labour to sign off on every help employers based programs after five years. they say that gives the federal government a say in what can and cannot be in those plans. john painter said this is one of the reasons why democrats -- boehner said this is one of the reasons why democrats will not get very much support. he said -- you will hear republicans talk more about that. megyn: he could be right.

we covered a study from this group that said 29% of employers asked, i would rather pay the penalty then keep the insurance. people are going to have to get onto the government insurance because it is cheaper. thank you. bill: this could have a major impact on the final vote. who will fill ted kennedy policy in the senate? the massachusetts house of representatives voting to change the law again, this time to give the democratic governor the power to appoint a successor. but not without some history and some controversy. in 2004 there was a vote to change along then that must trip in then-republican governor mitt romney of the power to appoint a successor. at the time john kerry was a warning for the white house. law was reversed back to what it

was before, that could help democrats maintain a filibuster- proof majority in the senate. here is the speaker of the house trying to explain the decision to change the law. >> i was agonizing which way to go and it was true that i was listening to people and talking to people. at the end of the day, what concerns me is that massachusetts has that's vote. bill: the decision has potential national implications. megyn: new developments on the missile defense shield issue. the nato secretary-general is urging western allies and russia to join forces and link their defense of missile systems. the secretary-general's call comes one day after president obama's controversial decision to scrap a long planned missile defense shield in eastern

europe. that program was meant to protect america and its allies in case of a long-range missile attack from iran. russian were furious over the plan because it would have been right next door to russia. president bush stood firm on it but president obama has done an about-face on the policy. the white house says it is not ditching the plan because of russia but says a newly designed system will work better, and the pentagon agrees, but critics say it powers -- empowers russia and puts the u.s. in danger. >> this bill-and by its decision does nothing more than empowers in russia and iran at the expense of the u.s. and our allies. it shows a willful determination to ignore the threats posed by some of the most dangerous regimes in the world while taking one of the most important defenses against iran off the table.

megyn: vice president biden said he is much less concerned about iran -- iran's nuclear program but the u.n. nuclear watchdog found that they have the capacity to make a nuclear bomb and is developing a nuclear system to carry one. bill: is care system unfolding in the state of washington. a criminally insane killer is on the loose but no one knows why. felt paul escaped during a stay at the state fair. he was last seen yesterday morning. by the way, he brutally murdered an elderly couple in the 1980's. the longer he goes without his medicine, officials say, the more dangerous he could become. joining me now is a local anchor. two questions. why did the hospital bring 31 mental patients to the state fair without telling anyone?

>> that is one question that we have been asking. officials with mental health services have not been able to provide us with an answer. they say it is their policy to allow out bins for mental health patients but they could not explain to us why there was a two-hour lapse from when all was lost and when the shares were told about it. those in charge of the state fair say that they were never even alerted to the group coming to the state fair and did not give permission for them to be there. what is more shocking is they were walking in round -- walking around in plain clothes. we are trying to find out how he was part of this group. bill: and he is still walking around. he has a violent history. how dangerous could he be?

>> we have been told if he is on his medication, things should be ok, but the concern is after 48 hours without medication, what is possible. overnight people have been calling in and saying they have seen someone matching his description in north spokane. the train tracks link that area with the fair grounds, so it is possible he is trying to follow those tracks, possibly headed to sunnyside, washington in the center of the state. his parents lived in that area, so authorities in that area have also been notified. bill: thank you for that. it is breaking news right now. authorities on the lookout, trying to recapture phillip paul. megyn: yesterday the white house had a meeting with one of the

top pro-like advocate, assuring her health reform would not lead to a taxpayer funded abortions. did it work? bill: and you might remember two months ago three american hikers taken into custody for allegedly crossing the line into iran from iraq. their parents have written to officials in iran, but -- begging them to bring them back. in a moment we will find out what has happened since that arrest. megyn: they can kill a dog or a small child. look at this thing. we will show you what happened when a construction worker came face-to-face with this icon. >> another person assisted me, and when he moved it away, -- he was pulled up, but i knew that he was big. bicycle, i've missed you.

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megyn: in his address to a joint sessions of congress, president obama's land claims that his plan would allow taxpayer funded abortions. listen to what he said and then listen to what barks tupac said on our show in response. -- bart stupac said on our show in response. >> no federal dollars will be used to fund abortion and federal conscious laws will remain in place. >> i was disappointed in the president when he said no funding for abortion was in the bill. that is not true. megyn: yes today, officials from the united life organization met with the president. she is here, us how that meeting went. >> thank you for having me.

megyn: nancy pelosi and other democrats have come out and said that this is nonsense, this is a scare tactic to suggest taxpayer dollars will be used for abortion. then we had a bar stew back -- bart stupak, a democrat say that it is in the bill, or he will be prepared to do something to kill the bill. you had a meeting with president obama on this. did he put your mind at ease? >> we met with his top officials and they continue to reiterate word for word what he played this morning. i love the fact that you went with a quotation from him because the truth of the matter this democrats have had repeated opportunities to address this abortion issue and specifically through a bipartisan effort that

congressman stupak has led where the language specifically says there would not be abortion on the bill, but it was voted down. the question that it left was how do you say there will not be abortion funding in the bill but every amendment that has repeatedly been offered to explicitly say there will not be abortion funding in the bill has been voted down? that remains to be a completely irreconcilable difference. megyn: they say it is not necessary. why would we add this when the bill does not give money for abortion? >> that is not true and completely disingenuous. i am happy to talk with you because i know you are an attorney. we have been focused on the legal ramifications of the health care reform bill. the truth is, even though so

many of those -- abortion proponents keeps saying the hyde amendment takes care of the funding, the hyde amendment is a temporary measure that would be applied to medicaid but it helps us understand the problem we face in health care reform. without that, in medicaid, we would have abortion funding. we need something like that in health care reform that explicitly says no funding. otherwise, the courts will mandate and enforce abortion funding. they have repeatedly said abortion is a mandatory category of care under medicaid. if you do not mind my repeating, abortion is a mandatory course of care, so we would be forced to fund abortion in health care reform unless there is something that explicitly forbids it. megyn: obviously, you are pro- life, and you know many in the country are not. there are women out there who still want to be able to get

abortions. how would you suggest lawmakers craft a health care reform bill where those who want access to abortion can get it, but those who oppose it do not have to pay for it? >> this is an important point, what you do with these people. this is a fundamental divide. this is what we said in the meeting. i understand we disagree on the issue but the truth is, the vast majority of americans, even those who call themselves pro- choice to not want to see the funding go to it. we are not talking about access but whether or not the taxpayer will be forced to pay for something that dataey are -- thy are morally opposed to. megyn: people can debate and have been about what is and what is not murder, but for those who do not believe that, they do not

want to pay for it at all. obviously, the white house is not ready to close that possibility, but what would you have them do? let's say you have a bill that does not have any money going to abortion. how could that be funded? >> because it is legal, people can pay for it themselves, like any other medical procedure that they feel strongly about. is available, there is access to it, so they can pay for themselves. megyn: when you walked up the white house, you agree with the congressman, you were no surprise -- satisfied with what you were told? >> congressman stupak has a very good bipartisan amendment. there is good language in there. that is the focus of what we're looking at.

you have to have specific language. they always say the devil is in the details. megyn: he said if they do not allow an up or down vote, he is going to try to squash the bill altogether. we will see what happens. thank you. bill: remember the three american hikers are arrested and charged and now being held in iran? how are they doing? why have we heard so little from them? because you asked. megyn: and a hofstra university student claims she was gang raped by five men this past weekend. their names and faces appeared to cross media. it turns out she made the whole thing out. -- thing up because of one word,

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bill: because you asked. jo graham from south carolina asks this -- a few months ago the group of americans in iraq were nabbed and the iranians said they crossed into their territory. they have been held ever since. jennifer britain had been watching this from the pentagon. good morning to you. the family and took the president of iran asking to send their people home. what is the status? >> u.s. representatives do not really know where these three people are being held. all three were students at one point at the university of california berkeley. their mothers wrote to mahmoud ahmadinejad this week and delivered a letter which was translated and given to the

delegation. they were hoping the request of the mothers of the three hikers -- suggested that moment on that -- mahmoud ahmadinejad could bring the children with him when he comes next weekend for the u.n. general assembly. it was a pleading letter asking for some compassion. we also heard in an interview that president ahmadinejad scoffed at the idea and said that the u.s. are holding five iranian in iraq who were arrested years ago by u.s. forces and was giving an indication that there could be a quid quo pro if these hikers are to be released. bill: have you had any contact with folks on the ground whether or not there were -- they were truly in iranian territory? >> the border where they were

hiking, it is not very well marked. on one side they say hiker did not realize they had crossed the end. there are other reports suggesting that they had passed a border guard. it sounds similar to the situation with the two journalists in north korea and that may have been lured across the border as well. bill: thank you. if you have a question you want answered, send it to me, hemmer@foxnews.com. megyn: for the first time ever the founders of the leftwing group acorn and the man who ran it for 38 years since down for an interview with yours truly. what he told me about the group's future plan for getting of the boat effort -- vote

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megyn: it has been a year full of scandal for acorn, the left- wing community organizing group. first it was voter registration fraud we saw in the 2008 presidential elections. this past week, undercover videos showing acorn workers tried to help a woman posing as a prostitute avoiding the law. in the wake of it all, "the wall street journal" is considering getting rid of its voter registration efforts altogether. in an exclusive interview, i asked acorn's founder, the man who ran the organization for 38

years, about their voter registration problems. he forecast exactly this result. >> you looked unto this sampling. three workers found guilty of administration fraud. another worker to plead guilty to forgery. 2008, missouri. 13 workers plead guilty to voter registration fraud. >> all those cases are terrible. no one condones -- certainly no one with acorn -- condones any bad registration. that is not the issue here. nobody wants administration but we are really talking about tens of thousands of people involved and a very small number of people who are involved in these situations. yes, we agree, let's have 0 problems, but the way to have

that is to have automatic registration in the country, to have a real democracy. why do we have a system that makes us raise all this money to go out to try to register low and middle-income people to vote? megyn: you ran the place for 30 years. you cannot do better? people are outraged about this. this issue is hurting your organization. >> i think that acorn is probably debating whether or not to continue to be involved in voter registration. megyn: how about that. he is acorn. he was fired, according to him, he left, because his brother and the money with the group. -- embezzled money with the group. then they covered it up.

this guy sat down with me for nearly three hours. there is much more to the interview and it will be a major part of an in-depth documentary that we have been working on for weeks. will air next week. you do not want to miss this. update on when it will be airing. bill: we will have clips from our own program as well. you found agreement there. megyn: it was very friendly. bill: the fight over health-care reform getting personal for two lawmakers who find themselves the target of new commercials. the main target is of olympia snowe. there is also a california congressman pete stark who is under attack for calling moderate members of his party brain-dead. so my question, are you buying

but these ads are selling? the author of a brand new book, frank luntz, is with us this morning. we are going to watch two clips. what are we going to see in the first one? >> if you could show my book again for a moment, i'm going to give americans the three biggest things that they want from health care. they want to hear that their health care is done in a timely fashion, that you can get your test done when you need to. number two, doctor-patient relationship. nothing should interfere with that. number three, this should be deficit neutral. the first one, pete stark, they'd take him on what his position on health care. it is one of the most negative had done on health care. the higher you see the lines climb, the more powerful the

reaction. let's see how americans react to this ad. >> a moderate democratic congressman brain dead? one of the weeders, a liberal and close ally of nancy pelosi, said moderate democrats were brain-dead for opposing a government takeover of health care. he started to accuse blue dog democrats for selling out to insurance company donations. it sounds like he is accusing people of bribery. >> you see how high that red line climbed with republicans? they bought that. democrats did not still, the american people are saying to these ad makers, the people involved in health care, don't trust each other, tell me what you are for and against and stop playing politics. bill: olympia snowe is front and

center in this debate. what is hers? >> this is one of the best we have tested so far because it cajoles you to get involved. watch how high both of the lines go. >> as a 25-year cancer survivor, i worry when i changed jobs i will lose my health insurance. >> we have to allow you to keep your health insurance if you want to. we need a public health insurance option so that all of us have coverage, no matter what. we need olympia snowe to continue to show she cares more about the people of maine and the insurance lobby. >> when i saw that, we had swing voters, have voting for barack obama, the other half john mccain -- and i saw the reaction

to the ad and i understand the pressure that she is under from democrats. bill, the point you make in your book, you take a step further. you say that after interviewing thousands of people, and they want accountability from their government and what respect from those who lead in washington. everyone, check of the book. thank you. what americans really want. megyn: a hofstra university freshman accuses five men of the brutal grant -- gang rape. the men were suspected -- suspended and facing over 25 years in protest -- in prison. now the accuser admits she has made the whole thing up. how come she has not been charged with a crime?

bill: and we have a verdict in a kelly's court case that captured the attention of the country. for the first time ever a high- school coach was charged criminally for the death of a high-school player. now the verdict is in from kentucky. >> i lost one of my boys that day. a boy that i loved and cared for, and to amend the quality and reliability... are more than words here.

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megyn: callous court is back in session. a twisted tale of rate on the new york campus that turned out to be not true. this hofstra university student, seen in this picture, is facing possible criminal charges after line to police have -- about being a gang rape. she claimed five men tied her up

and raped her in the bathroom after a fraternity party. her allegations into the rest of the four men. their pictures were plastered all over local and national media. the so-called nightmare encounter was all a rouse. she made the whole thing up and only confessed to it when it turned out that they had a videotape of the encounter. then she came clean. she had been suspended but has not been charged with a crime. why not? let's ask our panel. good morning, a panel -- good morning, panel. do we need to remind anybody care about the rape case at duke university?

prosecutors said that she was deeply disturbed. in this case, should she? >> why shouldn't she? the things that she did, saying she ms. rate by these five men, their lives will never be the same. she only came clean when she was confronted with evidence by the district attorney's office. i feel the prosecutor is engaging in a double standard. she should be prosecuted because they are now the victims. what ever you think morally about what they engaged in, it was consensual and she made up these outrageous lies saying that she was raped by those men. she should be prosecuted for filing a false statement, perhaps even perjury if she signed a sworn affidavit. megyn: the prosecutor has come out and said --

>> at least the prosecutor is stepping back. i am not going to defend what she did, it is horrible, but there are some mitigating factors. she is 18, has been suspended from school. now everyone knows who she is. when confronted, she did not just try to keep the story going. she came clean and admitted she lied. so what the prosecutor is doing is stepping back saying that i could charge you but you have mental problems. let's give her that chance to clear that up before going ahead with the prosecution. she fails that war will not go into treatment, then prosecutor, but at least to give her that chance. megyn: that she did not give these five men in a chance. the reason she made it up is because she had a boyfriend and admitted this incident was

consensual sex. she did not know her boyfriend to know. >> the world needs to be on notice. she should have a record of this. if she tries to do this again -- this is exactly what we saw in the duke case. she filed another false report case. she cannot be able to do this to anyone else. >> there was documentation in the do case. any prosecutor worth their salt would have noticed that. megyn: did they offer these defendants a chance for therapy before deciding to charge them? >> that was a charge of rape, and i agree it was wrong and that these four men had there and it -- names on the line. all she is trying to do is -- all i am trying to do is show a bit of empathy to see if she can

be rehabilitated before we take away her life. megyn: my way to rehabilitate people like that? go to jail. am i being too hard? an illegitimate claim of rape undermined every legitimate claim. >> that's right, and real victims are afraid to come toward because of cases like this because a woman had victimized them by making people second-guess any time a woman be -- brings forth a rape allegation. >> she did more harm to actual rape victims this week than anyone else has done since the duke university case. >> i agree with what has been said. i understand. all i am saying is the prosecutor herself said this woman needs help. let's try to get her some help first, and then maybe we can

have some charges. let's not ruin her whole life. >> she can go to church, too, but i do not think it is going to help. megyn: what about the police? the d.a. quickly got to the bottom of it but they arrested these four men instantly on her word. but then the police chief said that perhaps something else happened. should the police been making statements like that? did we learn anything from duke? >> i think it is irresponsible. what i do not believe is an unequal justice. i think she is not being treated equally because of her gender.

she should be finished -- punished for what she did. >> what they did is reprehensible. this prosecutor is just trying to say, let's step back and see if we can help this woman before we bring charges. megyn: she has known for a couple of days that this was a bogus. let's not be too quick to charge these young men. unfortunately, we have to go. this woman should be charged. the accusers in the duke case should have been charged, too. the problem in not doing so is it sets a precedent that one can get away with this kind of thing. that is not right. obviously, she had problems. that is not the issue. bill: good thing they have the video. and in yet another courtroom,

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>> we the jury, find the defendant, david jason stinson not guilty. bill: it took the during 90 minutes to reach that decision in what is considered a landmark trial. schools around the country are watching closely here as jason stinson was charged in the death of a 15-year-old player named max gilpin. collapsed last august during practice and died three days later of heat stroke, among

other things. we are at the hospital work -- high school where jason stinson formerly coached. have any of the jurors explained how they reached the verdict? >> none of them have come to the media, but like you say, it only took them 90 minutes to reach their decision. in their mind, it is very clear cut up the coat was not responsible for the death of his player. -- it was very clear cut that the coach was not responsible for the death of max gilpin. many people in the court yesterday were very emotional. jason stinson's wife, monica, was crying while stinson openly hugged his attorney. it has been a difficult year for all of the parties involved. take a listen. >> i am so relieved. i just pray for max's family.

pray for them. we never leave them out, day after day, night after night. we always have people in our purse -- prayers. but jason was innocent. >> as far as jason stinson's future, we have not only heard from the assistant principal at this high school, but also that he plans to meet with the superintendent today or tomorrow to talk about getting his old teaching job back at a hospital. it is not far off to say that a coaching job could be far behind -- could be not far behind. bill: thank you. megyn: an interim report from the un -- u.n. nuclear watchdog revealing disturbing information

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