we'll continue 24/7 all weekend long on billoreilly.com. we hope to see you next time. remember the spin stops here in >> alysin: good morning everyone it is saturday at this hour the details in the new york city terror plot. the chief suspect now admits he has ties to al qaeda. where that investigation is heading in the attack that may have been in the works. >> dave: seven former cia directors make an appeal to president obama to call off the investigation on harsh interrogation tactics. they say they probe puts the united states in danger to turn a question for you, how much would you dish out to break bread with former alaska governor sergei on? which only one truth and paid to

have lunch with a former governor. pearsal in this morning was from bonneville is california. "fox & friends", present the news that the greatest needs, we are very happy to wake up in the morning and have friends like these. i like it. *blank . >> announcer gets "fox & friends". speak your good morning everyone on this saturday morning. welcome to "fox & friends". i am clayton morris, mrs. alisyn camerota, and this is a very sick day breaks. america, sending her home remedies. everyone gets sick. this is what you need to do. someone already recommended he needs a night club nights sleep at a nightclub night would be great. >> alysin: i had what you had yesterday. it's horrible. but today called. nixon chose my nose was a spigot. much information. and i had chicken soup and juice -- orange juice.

>> dave: i have a friend who told me i might have the swine flu. he said your symptoms -- he had it, and i know i need to cough like this thanks to kathleen steely us doing in that direction speaker, until i get sick kicking it on i say three minutes. >> clayton: on the show with a great author, fascinating topic to make its about how it might be best not to have children. because she has 40 great reasons that people should not have children including for women, that that rat race and motherhood do not work together. it's very provocative but thinks she is saying about how your life would be much better if you don't have children. we'll ask her. >> dave: ironically, she has children. >> alysin: she knows what she is talking about speech reaches more in tune with it. i'm going to listen to this. >> dave: we start with intriguing is starting on friday, seven former cia directors have asked president

obama to reverse the inquiry from eric holder the attorney general is looking into terminal investigation into the cia's post-9/11 interrogation of suspects. this would reverse this investigation. and this is again seven former cia directors are both republican and democratic presidents renting from both bushes, carter, clinton, all of their cia directors asking for this speech at a signed this letter to the president and it comes in interesting time because there sang we've gone through an investigation. the cia held an investigation. those this is a quote from the letter. the cif held her own internal investigation found nothing run it on the justice department had their career prosecutors investigate this years ago they only found one case that

warranted one person going to prison. these former heads of the cia say this will discourage -- but may show you here. zanetti recognize. porter goss, george tenet. they are not partisan. they served as david said for both republicans and democrats. the point is investigations like this will discourage talented people from either staying at the cia or from becoming cia officers at the very time that we need them most to continue terror investigations. there is no good they think that can come of this. articulately since the president said he would prosecute the top officials who ordered these enhanced interrogation techniques. so i just prosecute the people who carry them out in good faith? thirty-three-point simmons a former cia operative will join us on the show. he penned an interesting op-ed piece about this. he served 27 years hunting terrorists. he said he tried to put himself in the place of his former case

officer who would have had to go through this process. if he was under the gun being watched and whether they were able to seek human intelligence, it would hinder their job. it would be their achilles' heel. it would be able to do their job in human intelligence gathering. >> dave: they say this could help strengthen al qaeda which is a frightening thing. they said it could strengthen the group by helping them of the capture. scary stuff. >> alysin: i'm interested to know what you think about this. whether or not they should be prosecuted. send it to the blog@foxandfriends.com. >> your headlines. the man at the center of a terror investigation in new york and denver is expected to undergo a fourth day of questioning today. this comes after a senior u.s. intelligence official says that the man has admitted that he is directly linked with al qaeda. the official went on to say that he was playing a crucial role in an intended terror attack being directed from outside the u.s.

it is not clear what the targets were. the man has not been arrested. police also reportedly found bomb making diagrams on his laptop after he was stopped trying to cross into new york over new york's george washington bridge. >> ever terrifying moments for tourists and residents in indonesia. a strong earthquake shook the resort island of bali sending thousands fleeing into the streets. at least seven people have been treated for head injuries and broken bonds. no sin on the warning was issued. the 5.8 magnitude quake comes to accept rate larger earthquake struck the nearby island of java. >> connecticut police said investigators may never determined a motive in the slaying of a gala graduate student. >> alysin: new haven's police chief says -- it's the sex. the only person who knows why she was killed is a 24-year-old suspect, bremen clark. this is the lab technician charged in the case doesn't

enter a plea in court. he has not confessed to the crime scene at the first doses of sign flu vaccine may all be of the nasal spray variety. this according to federal health officials. about 3.4 million doses of the vaccine will be available in early october, but the vaccine is approved only for healthy people ages 2-49. world health organization says each one and one is killed 649 people worldwide since august 30 among. that scary. you're not healthy right now. you couldn't get it speech or you need to be healthy. that makes no sense as check in with her cry for speech of an icon that is, here are your temps. we have changes this week. a little fall weather will come in. severe weather will be back. rumor the drought across parts of the south, we had rain this week and things really improved. exceptional drought is gone except for spots. still certainly drought in texas

but the rain we received very welcome news in this rainmaker has been a slow mover. we have seamlessly not moved that far. it's a summit when we talked about this last, the system is not just slowly moved over across parts of the cell. we have her heavy rain falling out across much of alabama in towards tennessee. this will cause flooding. it caused flooding already and will probably move so slowly lucius and 3-5 inch rainfalls that will make conditions worse. anywhere north of the kentucky nine and absolutely spectacular day again. across the great lakes into the northeast it will be nice and we will see that fall foliage peak across parts of northern new england. people like that time of year myself included. this is the next system before moving across parts of the pacific northwest. this will be a weather changer for us this week including some severe weather that were moving on monday. when i talked about tornadoes lately that it will be back with us by monday. here are your tabs across the

northern plains temps in the 80s than the front moving in. we'll see the temperatures dropped this week. back to you see three thank you, rick. john stickley in roanoke virginia says anita greco with hydrogen peroxide and water. >> dave: get out of hear. speaker he said he will get sick again spewing lot get sick again because you may not live long. >> dave: the study and treat me. i saw this this week that over time women are becoming less happy. a group of wharton business school a pretty stage at best have studied women's happiness over the last 30 plus years and every year women's happiness is on the decline. what's interesting out in october, women may take over 50% of the workforce for the first time ever because three quarters of the jobs lost in this recession had been man. alysin, is that why you're increasingly less happy over time? some. >> alysin: i know i'm has to speak for all women kind on the show, but i must admit this

study stumps me because not only are women more in the workforce and overtaking them, more women have been issued bachelor's degrees in this country than speaker he well at that stump you. >> alysin: why would women's happiness be on the decline when their power, income and education is going up speaker because men are miserable. men who have power and money they're not exactly happy running around. we saw this study. >> alysin: but it's gone up over the years the three we saw a study of few weeks ago that showed that women who are able to work harder, get these bachelor's degrees, they're dealing with the pressure and stress of not only having children, do other stuff, but i still worry about the same stresses men have. i said something? >> alysin: i would think having more power and access to education and jobs would be for feeling so women would be happier. you hit on it. the reason the study takes they're not as happy is because it's called it's a second shift.

women have to work the second shift that in general men do. they work eight or ten hours then they go home and they are on duty for the next eight hours working with childcare, changing diapers all the other stuff. >> dave: i got it but the cross-references against whether you are married, had children, had a job, made more or less money, it was across all those factors. even the women without children. even when their unmarried speech at an all wharton did this over 30 years and i've studied women as well over 30 years and i actually looked at it through the years of television possessively do best so that we would study the progression of women's happiness. remember in the 50s leave it to beaver how happy the wife was admitted to beaver. thrilled and happy. be going to the 60s -- sue and she doesn't look happy speaker he vitiated deal with wally. then here you can see that happiness decline. you can see she has to deal with

kids. a little troubling. move to the next one. single working woman. >> alysin: oh, mr. grant. >> dave: nursing mr. television speaker you can see it through rode a. we move into the 80s tv. claire huxtable is a lawyer soon she's perfectly happy. she smiles the most. your theory is completely -- speak through docket sheet stretched out pop, her hair is a mess, she doesn't get dressed cip of -- e-mail us and tell us what you think. why do you think women's happiness continues to decrease. speed three that shows in 2009 overtime. >> alysin: very happy. lawmakers wasted no time reprimanding irishman joe wilson for interacting presents healthcare address. yet, charlie wrangle has been under investigation for ten months. why isn't congress holding his feet to the fire? are democrats playing favorites?

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petri back to "fox & friends". sixteen minutes past the hour. it took six days for the house of representatives to reprimand joe wilson for his outburst during resident obama's healthcare address.

why do they move so slowly when it comes to charlie wrangle huismann under investigation for ten months. the founder joined us out next to the floating giant head of charlie wrangle. >> spoke in ♪ nice to see jeff. isn't this a problem with congress policing itself? we know the people who are required to investigate charlie wrangle have received campaign donations from mr. rangel himself. therefore they are being asked. it's turn on their bodies. isn't this a problem with congress policing itself? >> it's worse at some level than that. charlie rangel has been there for 38 years. commerce has become a campground for the ruling elite. thirty-eight years he has been there. there's no one there to hold him to account. there is no credible person anywhere that will tell you congress can investigate itself on either side see three let's

go back eight years and put this in perspective. i don't remember it the same sort of thing happening to this level, this sort of egregious level in eight years that republicans like congress. by ron? >> tobacco bring up tom delay. they will bring up either perceived insults are sluts. these people are very petty. if you or i had $1 million like charlie rick husband, we are in jail. the average american would be in jail for what he's done. then i go to joe wilson and six days later they rebuke them. you cannot compare the two credibly speak during which it happened to charlie wrangle? >> he should be thrown out and he needs to be in jail. this is tax evasion. he's stealing from the government they won't do that. they don't have enough leadership in congress between the question is whether he violated house disclosure rules. let's be specific about this money. this wasn't $1000 he forgot to pay because he got a gift card somewhere. $75,000 in rent from home he underestimated the value of and condo reports.

this is in some small little christmas gift he got from someone. >> hidden bank accounts. somewhere between $250,000 and $500,000 into account. i don't know about you, but that much money you forget he is a liar and a thief. he needs to be removed from the office and put in jail. >> you have run this website blog commerce .com. we get rid of congress what sort of a body ruling body should we have to investigate congress. they can't be expected to investigate themselves what should we have. >> there has to be the same when you look at the justice department. the justice department has a good reputation are going after issues in the government and investigating them. you have to have someone outside of congress to do that. look@blogcommerce.com. the truth is, you have in congress since you put men and women. more than 40% of the people had been in congress as well as $10 of era. it is not the politics of the party that's a problem, it's the people. the good news is globetrotters.com.

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>> dave: dr. mike joins us live from the university of pennsylvania. i have questions about what's going on hear at the break but let's talk about this pink eye cancer. it is not one we hear a lot about. what we need to know? >> it's the fourth leading cause of cancer deaths in this country. it is not a good one to have. the median survival, five months after diagnosis. even when it's in a good situation that causes problems. it is just not -- it is a horrible one. it's particularly deadly. he had stage iv cancer was diagnosed. is there anything people can do to catch it sooner to give. >> unfortunately not. some of the symptoms that you have when you have at our abdominal pain, weight loss, and sometimes jaundice or you turn yellow. the problem is by the time we find it it is usually rather advanced and there aren't any good screening tests. i brought them here, this is

mr. pancreas). can i get a tight shot of that? this is the pancreas). that's the organ that really can play havoc and it is one of those illnesses that i really never want to have. the five we have heard about designer babies. parents are calling for hormone shots, growth formal shots make the kids taller. is this a good idea to make human growth formal and has been around since 1958. originally only available -- because it was so rare to get, you got it from human pituitary gland in the brain. that caused some problems and they came out with a way to genetically make it. what we're seeing now is that there are parents bringing their short kids and saying hey, i kid is fine, he doesn't have a growth hormone deficiency, but i want to make intolerant because my kid is going to be the president is going to look great and be perfect. >> alysin: so who is a candidate? how short?

>> what we're talking about here is for instance how tall are you to give 205'3" but i wish i was taller to make the average height for a woman in this country is 5'4". i think you came out perfect the way you are. typically can you stop and look what happened to him. but the thing is, that where it is a problem is we don't have any long-term safety data, really. there's some data showing it might be okay. the problem is we're going to get a hormone to a young person before puberty, where they can't consent to it, just to make them look the way we want them to look. it is not good. >> dave: when we have ice cream's hamburger cheese and butter together. some say these control your brain says a new study. only more about this. >> i got meals contained certain products that we have there, heat and melt and butter and cheese have helmeted acid in it.

the plot is that dominic acid reduces the effects of a hormone called that ten and insulin that makes you feel full. so if you eat this you're going to eat more. what's intriguing to me, even though the study is in rats, is that it lasted a couple of days longer. that's why i brought the brain here, i prefer brain. you eat this and it tends to affect the way you eat. someone finally an explanation for why haven't us speaks to me directly in my brain. dr. mike, thanks for coming in to make love to be here. >> dave: lamek gold medalist jean johnson is here. what she thinks about serena williams outburst at the u.s. open. >> alysin: first, requisite look at whether the seven is the last weekend of summer. can you believe it to cube when i sent in a barbecue. we had these guys from dc, pork barrel barbecue. we are excited we got a started this. he will cook up some good barbecue for us all day long.

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at an internet auction to have dinner with sarah payment. she is kathy maples of alabama and her money goes to a good cause, the wounded warrior program. >> next up is $29,000. that's a much the university of notre dame accidentally gave of its catering employees by mistake. the tip was supposed to be $29. the university is suing to get back into places than the money was spent on a car. and finally, 40s five hours 15 minutes. that's the maximum amount of time women are able to keep a secret and before they blurred out according to new research in britain. without notice. islamist of in camera. houston comets back to you. she went thanks guys. keep it up. meantime let me tell you what's happening in your news headlines at this hour. two more gitmo detainees will be relocated to the pacific on

palau. they're muslims from western china known as uighurs. they're offering them the chance to move there. six have accepted others have been sent to bermuda. the pentagon ruled the uighurs were not enemy combatants last year. >> federal reserve finds a new crackdown on executive pay. fox's caroline shively has details washington. good morning. >> the fed is considering new rules that would govern paychecks at banks. not just for top executives but for mid-level traders and loan officers. anyone that they could cut deals that would risk the health of the institution. right now the fed is looking at the pay of top executives at the seven biggest companies that took bailout money. this proposed plan wouldn't be limited to banks that got money. it would apply to thousands of banks and holding companies across the u.s. the thinking is they want to prevent bonuses that a work quick bonuses. that's how some banks got in trouble before the bill. some on capitol hill including liberals and conservatives

excuse me our company the fed is getting too powerful and they definitely don't like this new proposed step. resident obama spoke about executive pay during his internet broadcast early this morning. >> we can't allow the thirst for reckless schemes that produce quick profits and that executive bonuses to override the security of our entire financial system. and the taxpayers on the hook for cleaning up the mess. >> it will probably be a few weeks before these new rules are ready. alysin? soon thanks, cameron for that update. >> police say there is evidence that might connect to cold kidnapping cases to jaycee guards suspected kidnapper phillip garrido. they found human bones on his property over four days of searching and digging. to guard was held captive on the same property for 18 years before being found. >> there's more bad news on the employment front. a whopping 42 states are reporting job losses for last month. that's up 29% in july.

the biggest payroll cuts came in texas, michigan, georgia and ohio. telephone is seeing its highest jobless rate since 1940 at 12.2%. california. singer scott weiland expressed a mild seizure on a commercial flight resolving an emergency landing at dallas. weiland was flight from los angeles to miami when flights that had to call for assistance and oxygen was administered on board. a friend said he has a history of seizures but is now doing great. those are your headlines speaker vostok acorn this morning. it's been a rough week for acorn. it is worth recapping. let's look back at the week of us. there is no news we will get to in a moment but first if you're trying to remember that quebecan recap. governor short snicker called for a state investigation of an incident there. salt cod on film in san

bernardino. in the georgia governor perdue said they would not renew a contract with acorn. some states try to go against us before the federal government did. governor, dean minnesota said stop servicing acorn defied governor paterson of new york in front of a 30 day hold on $400,000 of state money that would go to acorn, put a hold on it until they review the agency themselves. then on top of house and senate votes this week overwhelming majorities against acorn. >> alysin: this is the first time in history that both the right and the left are now challenging acorn for its dubious business practices. rasmussen has a new poll just gauging how the general that act -- the public feels about acorn. that found 57% believe that the new investigations into acorn are about their illegal activity, they're not politically motivated. only 20% believe they are politically motivated. in terms of a favorable opinion of acorn, only 67% of the

country has an unfavorable opinion. only 15% still sees it favorably see three wanted to this morning is because chris wallace host of "fox news sunday" with join us this morning and the 9:00 am hour. tomorrow morning he has an exclusive interview with bertha lewis, president of acorn. we want to solicit e-mails, ask you to send us on twitter and e-mail, friends at foxnews.com, what questions you'd like answered by bertha lister on "fox news sunday". >> dave: it has been a partisan opposition to the group of house and senate. let's get to wreck wreck with was a check for the weather. nice and cool up there? >> dave: -- speaker gets foggy. >> rick: and let me tell you that was one good pulled pork sandwich. but stick with the weather. you see the temperatures. cool across northeast. tonight we will talk about freezes across much of northern england. if you have plans out there

coming up if you want it to last. we want to talk quickly about the tropics. a couple things going on. remember we had fred a major hurricane at one point he now you see that little respectively. that was fred. there is some muster the will move over florida monday or tuesday. farther out in the atlantic is another system growing that probably will become our next arm. already looking fairly organized at this point. we will watch that one. right at the peak of hurricane season yet. back in across the 48 would have a very nice day, clear skies across northeast. we will deal with a good day today and tomorrow. down across much of the southeast with big problems with rain across much of alabama and tennessee for your day-to-day. anti-tank gun concerns. moreover there coming up at the top of the show. >> dave: she is an olympic gold medalist and season eight winner of dancing with the stars and she's just 17.

john johnson is using her fame for good by teaming up with the boys and girls club motivating kids to get out there and be active. she joins us this morning. good morning to you. >> of monaco are you if you. >> dave: if anyone has a message of the active as you. you seem to be nonstop since winning the gold medal. why is this message so important particularly for girls symetrical click program was created by boys and girls club of america and is to promote physical and active lifestyles to eat healthy get out there and be healthy lives. that's what i'm about. that's what i've done since i was three years old and it's what has gotten me hear today and i believe that so much and i really hope that i can be a good influence to people for it because we certainly have an active. is it more of a problem for young girls, defined eq. >> it is. the older girls get for their activity level decreases.

i especially see the girls my age. they start to get jobs behind a desk. they start to go home and watch tv more. not be active. it is as simple as taking in darfur were. walking to the mall. walking to the park with her friend. it's the little things that matter and i can make a difference. >> dave: that's a good message. you can get more information on triple play on the boys and girls website. you have been so active. un dancing with the stars. they've been on letterman and opera, you've been on million active at all. what's next? the 2012 games in london? acting? grego? >> i'm not sure where to go or what to do next. i'm thinking about it. i'm taking one day at time. while i know is that it's an honor to do things like this and especially for the opportunities i've done, it has been an honor and a whirlwind but i love it if i want to ask you about serena williams outburst of u.s. open. it's one thing for me to sit

here and react to it happened around the court, but you as a world-class athlete, who often has to deal with judges decisions if you don't like, and you also compete in a civilized board. what did you think of what happened with serena williams last weekend? >> i don't think i'm in a position to say anything. competitions get heated. athletes are really passionate about their sport. since i'm not in the competition anymore right now is hard to say. but you never know. things happen. >> dave: you can understand the passion. what is the best part about the success that you seem? you become america's sweetheart. i have a week that called you a gold medalist in life. what's been the best part of all this fame that you found since winning the gold? >> the best part by part is me being able to do things like this. things i'm passionate about. getting my voice out being an influence to get it working with

kids. that means the most of me. during dancing with the stars, during the olympics that are most proud of. >> dave: you are the perfect spokesperson for triple play. boys and girls clubs check out their website bgc a.org. best of luck to you in a future and no commitment on 2012 this morning? >> not yet, no. >> dave: a lot of people back. and you for joining us this one. best of luck in the future. >> thank you very coming up on "fox & friends", he promised not to raise taxes on middle-class that president obama's new tax laws could hurt you to matter what tax bracket you're in. the sweet mother of two was encouraging people not to have children. is she right? she has kids. it's having kids over rated? ♪ don't worry be happy

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>> alysin: welcome back everybody. never this campaign promise from president obama? >> i will cut taxes. cut taxes for 95% of all working families, because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class *speakeri is this true? will average americans do well under the president's changing taxonomist? running to which is a tax attorney and author of the tax lady's guide for beating the irs. lapinta "fox & friends". >> thank you. >> alysin: let's start with the promise of the president would cut taxes are 95% of americans many middle class and lower income americans.

>> obama's pledge to make sure and 5% of all americans don't pay more in taxes. it is true that with our budget deficit and the financial crisis we're in we all see more tax prices to -- tax increases in the future. >> alysin: he has admitted making work pay, that's giving many americans immediately $400, $800 for married couples, expanding the earned income tax credit and educational credits, those are things middle-class americans can cash in on, and abolishing the tax on the first $2400 worth of unemployment. >> you're bringing up so many wonderful taxation issues that all lower income and middle american incomes need to know. for some of the making work pay program is outstanding. everyone will see starting in april or money in their paycheck. as you said $400 -$800 that there's always fine print. if you make over $150,000 and

you're married, you will qualify. $75,000 single, won't qualify. you talk about the earned income credit. it's outstanding that you have to make between $30,000 and $40,000. if you do, guess what? we're talking about a 457.credit or fewer having one child $3000, two children through 600, if you have more than that, $5000. when you stand back and say his pledge was to make sure your income and middle income families are taken care of, is that what those programs. in education, as you mentioned, that's worth $2500 per student. >> alysin: good news for those folks. for people earning the top amounts in the country, not such good news. us look at what he has said. in fact we have a fullscreen help you see this, and that is that it will allow the bush tax cuts to expire. it's a same thing as raising taxes. that will raise taxes on people making $250,000 or more.

added new search taxes on top of that, and limited options on tax forms and personal exemptions. kos about this. >> i'm grateful you're talking not about the group of people that will be most affect it and there the financial burden of saving the world. if you make over $250,000, alysin, be taxed at the highest rate, 39.6%, were not his only 36%. more important than that which everyone needs to know, surtaxed. i'm glad you brought up surtax. imagine just because you are successful you will pay an additional 1% two 5.4% in a surtax. what else is awful? deductions. think about the directions. good as gold. you make x. you deduct, you only pay why. he will limited action selected to take. he will also raise capital gains taxes which affect the wealthy. but they're so much going on and it's so exciting right now is the one for a tax attorney.

when did the changes go affect? >> to go into effect immediately. the making work work pay program started in april, educational credits are available now. as far as tax increases its what you said. wish tax cuts expire to the -- 2010. it's all around the corner. >> alysin: thank you ronnie deutsch. he did a great job for breaking it down. nicely done some acting cute someone with breaking news. russia has scrapped plans to deploy missiles near poland following president obama's decision to abandon proposals for the missile defense shield in eastern europe. hopefully more about that. >> and mother of two says having children is overrated and she has 40 good reasons this morning for you not to have kids. she is here to explain what she means. this is my small-business specialist, tara.

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citrate welcome back to "fox & friends". all in love, get married, have a family of their own. the key to happiness. our next guest says having kids is overrated speech reaches the top third of the controversial book no kids. forty good reasons not to have children. good morning, karen. >> good morning speaker we have a couple interesting reasons to put on the screen of the desire for children you call a silly idea. why? >> if we live in a free world, we should have other dreams. for example, doing interesting things, traveling speaker you're saying that desire like that overpower your own desires in life, your own adventure -- i don't have kids i'm listening. if you have ambitions and

desires and you want to do these things in life that your desire and ambition should be to have kids to have more alaska bs. if you have kids you be so busy, especially if you're a woman, you won't have time to do interesting things to do and that's why one chapter is titled rat race plus rugrats snowbanks. you think it's impossible to climb the corporate ladder if you're a woman and you have children. >> it is not impossible but it is quite difficult. the figures show at least in europe that very few women reach high position. >> dave: one chapter is called a child is a sort of vicious in italy cruel door. you have children. how they feel about that description? >> i'm not return these words myself. it's a quote from a french rider. >> dave: so this is paraphrased statement exactly. i think my children understand that it's a joke speak three in the book is interesting start

interesting motherboard is a trap for women, whether good or success, pick one. or to make children the world. what was the moment for you as a mother for you said okay, a lightbulb went off, i need to figure out, something is amiss here and i need to write about this. what was that moment for you to give added this. >> i had a discussion with a few friends a few years ago, two nice women who don't have children, and they told me that they felt the pressure from society. they felt that their friends and family expected them to have children. and we talked about that, and we thought it would be fun to write a book about children. >> alysin: i get your point. it's quite provocative. your chapter titles are provocative. but are you missing the chapter that says that parenthood or motherhood can be wildly fulfilling? >> i think there are lots of looks about this issue, so it

belongs to others to explain why children are marvelous and fulfilling for people. >> alysin: the other side good point speech or you note -- >> dave: no kids, for reasons that have children. karen meyer, i want two-point out that kim clijsters winner of the u.s. open has children. speech rate everyone pointed that out every time. kim clijsters she's also mom too and thanks for coming in. >> dave: -- speech read seven cia chiefs want the obama administration to stop investigating the cia. >> alysin: advocacy groups are targeting the pledge of allegiance for students are now given a warning before reciting reen f a..

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>> alysin: good morning. it is september, saturday actually, that is september 19. new details this morning in the new york city terror plot. the chief suspect admits he has ties to al qaeda. the video found his possession and what it reveals about a possible attack. >> dave: illegal immigrants are not entitled to healthcare coverage according to resident obama. but he is pushing for a new path toward citizenship. the crews are calling a back door moved to amnesty. governor huckabee gives us his take in a minute speech or dislike carnival cruise the new adventure for women on the hunt with -- hunt for younger men. too and you mean cougars? speech rate on cruise. our "fox & friends", my morning -- make my morning click, but

stay away from briggs, he always seems to be sick onto. >> dave: kids. another reason not to have kids. >> announcer: it's "fox & friends" to make good morning. >> dave: good saturday morning to you. we just had on the author writing a book about what he reasons not to have kids. we went should be because you always do get sick. to go to school and bring it home and everybody gets sick. >> clayton: i asked viewers to send it to click thomas home remedies for dave we had hydrogen peroxide mixed with water. he said that works. you do try that. >> dave: i have one that says just go home and get to bed and leave the show to you guys see when we need you for another two hours. we have a great b-day coming up on the topic of kids. parents was not. there's new evidence that suggests a few your children before certain age it damages

them cognitive we will tell you what that ages and whether or not spanking is a good practice and we would love to hear your thoughts as well speak three a major story this morning of the alleged terror plots we talked about this earlier in the week that we're learning more about the suspect. today, saturday, he enters the sky, so is he enters into his fourth day of questioning by authorities. one investigating -- one in understanding one of the investigators has already admitted he has come out and said he has ties to al qaeda. his attorney said that's not sure. that some of these rumors are being floated around there. but officials are saying he has admitted to them he has ties to al qaeda. >> dave: initially said he had no ties then after a couple days of questioning he broke on it. he is a denver man. we're the fourth day of questioning, ties to al qaeda,

directions to build a bomb, no arrests speech or he can leave and go back to his apartment. >> dave: this is interesting. there is no arrests to arrest pending and that may have saved lives by getting in early on the sky. he watched them for a year but they didn't have hard evidence on him getting something. >> alysin: maybe they think they can get more information out of him before he totally lawyers up. maybe he's giving information. two unnamed sources said the edit video in his possession of grand central station. the terminal where half 1 million commuters -- including dave briggs -- every single day. the sky was arrested as he was trying to go over the george washington bridge. that's often been a possible terror target as well speak three or the guys were asleep at the switchboard at the toll booths there -- at the toll booths but in the booths checking people randomly? we talked about that because we've had this sort of false sense of security. or we go but might have been an attack on september 1120 get

into new york city on a night in an effort to get rid attractive possibly packet with explosives. a lot of people wonder what will these investigators to? maybe point out to talk to the people, this will lead to other people so they can throw wider net to capture people in this? >> dave: simply he will plead guilty to her today to some type of minor, present a charge. >> alysin: for giving them information? scary stuff. in the meantime here are your headlines. at this hour it was a frightening saturday for tourists on a popular resort island of bali. a strong earthquake shook the island this morning sending tourists and residents think industry. at least seven people were hurt. it was a 5.8 magnitude quake, the second to hit indonesia in recent weeks. >> alysin: a massive manhunt is underway for an insane escaped killer from eastern washington. philip arnold paul sukhoi from

hospital staff during -- get this -- a field trip to a county fair from his mental hospital. that's right. it was a field trip. paul was committed after being acquitted by reason of insanity for strangling an elderly woman to death in 1987. by the way he already previously tried to escape. practice by calling it a state issue the white house has been pressuring massachusetts officials to change their senate exception. in fact governor duval patrick said president obama spoke to him about it today of senator ted kennedy's funeral. massachusetts house lawmakers passed a bill that would allow the governor to appoint a senator. the state senate is scheduled to vote on this next week. >> store owners are not taking chances and pittsburgh ahead of next week's g8 20 summit. their stock up on plywood to protect their windows and doors in case protesters get out of hand. not every one is on pins and

needles. some say the g-20 is a great way to rack up extra sales speak three times to set sail. to set sail on a carnival of love. it's the cougar cruise -- spewing his tongue tied with excitement. >> clayton: i am excited about this. if you young men decided you want to meet in older woman, a sophisticated woman. >> dave: fortys and 50s speech rate she is a professional, doesn't mean anything, doesn't want anything from you soon she wants something i write speeds are young guys don't mind that. new cougar cruise. dave and i have argued that our passports he went apparently. in the meeting when we discussed this i said, i'm, what young guy will go on eight workers. dave disabuse me of that notion rather quickly. >> dave: again a very happily married man here but i'm describing what these young men

in their 20s and early 30s are looking for. they're looking for a woman who is wealthy, successful, who wants nothing other than that one something. no commitments, no strings attached, no games, and oftentimes these guys find they are showered with dinners and gifts. again, none of the games and a lot of the experience that you are looking for in that one thing. while the carnival cruise, it's the cougar cruise is december 4. and one woman who is hosting it is gloria navarro. she is miss cougar usa i believe at the national cougar convention she tells us about it. >> i'm proud to represent a new breed of women, 40 and over and we're going to go on a cruise and have fun and meet some cubs. >> dave: what's a cupcake you how young did you. >> i would say definitely over 21. usually a young single professional is what i consider it too.

>> dave: that's waconda chain yesterday the three she is talking about 21 year olds. >> dave: he created the cougar cruise. he is not a part of it all. he just had the idea that concept and apparently is interesting. $258 will get you a seat on this cruise from san diego to ensenada mexico. if you go let us know we want to get your tweets in along the way, photos, videos speech rate i will go as a videographer on a cruise. it reminds me of the popularity everybody is talking about cougars and one holding the new courtney cox television show, cougar town will be a huge hit for them. >> dave: next week. the california -- december 6 as the california convention in beverly hills. plenty of opportunities for the house and cougars. >> clayton: i think we need to do more research.

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>> dave: health care reforms could come down to your income especially if mandated. rob pollock is executive director of families usa a consumer group. good morning, ron. >> at morning, dave. >> dave: if people are mandated to have insurance, will they be able to afford it to give. >> one thing that's important about health reform is that for the first time if you can't get health coverage through your employer, you are actually going to get health or get premiums will be lowered to cuss there will be subsidies for people who otherwise can't afford remains, and once you have insurance, there will be limitations on how much you have to pay out of pocket or did today the sky's the limit, and a lot of people go into great depth and many into bankruptcy because the sky is the limit in terms of what they paid. that will come to an end. so health care will be more

affordable than it is today. >> dave: it will also be increasingly expensive for the elderly. we have a graphic will show for the audience. this demonstrates how the cost of health care will increase as one grows older. is that the expected because the elderly do have, after all, or diseases and surgeries and things of that nature? was i going to cause troubles if somebody -- to some of the seniors in this country? >> today, insurance companies can charge what they want when you're older. a lot of older people can't get coverage at all if they have any kind of health problems like diabetes or high blood pressure, insurance companies won't sell in coverage at all and they will charge them an arm and a leg if they do provide coverage. that's going to come to an end. insurance companies cannot deny coverage due to a pre-existing condition. they can't charge higher premiums just because you have a health problem or it and the

numbers -- yes, the elderly who typically have higher healthcare , but they're going -- they're going to be limitations on how premiums are charged with respect to age or if and the numbers in your graphic actually are changing as they speak. i think the numbers are going to be much more favorable for the elderly than the numbers in that graphic. >> dave: what about young people? young people voice their concerns they may have to pay up to a $1500 fine for individual if they don't get coverage and some young people just can't afford that, -- that money? >> that's like younger people will get it right you of health. they're going to get subsidies in order to help them pay their premiums. rimmer, younger people to think they are in entry level jobs so they have relatively low income. now they're going to get help because they're going to be subsidies for their premiums, and there will be limitations on

out-of-pocket costs area so for younger people this is going to be very helpful. also, for younger people, they may be able to stay on their parents health care coverage, which right now many of them can't do. so that's going to be an improvement for a -- for younger adults. >> dave: one group concerned about this is small business. they too will have to pay a fine if they decide they can't afford the health care insurance. some looks like we'll go ahead and pay that fine because it will actually be less than ensuring that employees are your is this something our small businesses in this country who are already suffering, but they can afford to give. >> for small businesses, this'll be a significant improvement, because small businesses are actually going to receive subsidies in order to make it affordable to provide coverage for their workers. a lot of small businesses simply cannot afford that coverage. if we don't get health care

reform, a lot of small businesses will have to drop coverage or shift more of the costs onto workers. i have to say that this mandate that archer businesses may experience, will not be applicable to smaller businesses. they will be exempted from any such mandate to not interesting. ron pollack executive director of families usa. we appreciate your time this morning. >> thanks for much for inviting me. >> dave: is the white house putting our nation's security at risk to keep our next guest will tell us why the president should stop the witch hunt and stop investigating the cia. >> is a hot button issue for parents: inspecting a good way to stop that behavior to keep as a mentor kids more aggressive? a debate every care to here, straightahead. welcome to the now network. right now five coworkers

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speech rate welcome back to "fox & friends". twenty-one minutes past the hour. seven former cia directors sent a letter urging the president not to investigate interrogation tactics used during the bush administration. >> alysin: our next guest agrees with the chiefs. this is wayne simmons a former cia operative word is for bangor symantec's. >> alysin: most of these cases have been investigated by the justice department a few years ago. is there some new information that has come to light that will warrant investigating these again to give. >> no, alysin. the absurdity of this entire eric holder investigation is that these investigations of the cia and of any possible abuses has already taken place. they are adjudicated and we hopefully have moved on.

so what the american people need to understand is the very thought of as being thrust back into an investigation of the first line of defense against terrorists, which are our cia interrogators and agents, is putting america at an incredible -- incredibly dangerous position. see three let's look at part of a letter written to the president. i'm quoting here. >> what does that mean? >> well, first of all cia agents, cia operatives, the cia we understand limitations. we understand what we are allowed to do legally. that's were we keep it. if there are abuses, those are dealt with and have been up with in the past. but another important thing to

understand that everyone needs to really get clear, is that once americans start understanding how this investigation will affect the security -- the national security of america, there will be a rally or should be a rally on the grounds of the capitol that should work on healthcare issues as if our agents are not allowed to have the tools that they need to use against the terrorists, against our enemies, then nothing else matters. not abortion issues, not healthcare issues, none of those issues matter because we will be in big, big, trouble. >> alysin: wayne, he spent many years of your life in the cia. explain how this investigation will affect her out and recruitment of future agents? >> right on alysin, another great question. the bottom line is this: if as an interrogator i know i will be second guessed, and if the white

house has their way they will oversee everything that i do as an interrogator, and the first thing i would have to do is retain counsel. i would have to have an attorney if i was smart, because i know as i wrote in the human events article that came out yesterday, i can assure you as surely as the sun rises tomorrow, i will be second guessed as an interrogator and my attorney and i will be sitting in front of congress asking questions being second guessed speaker lets be fair and balanced here. the critics are saying that those declassified letters still haven't been declassified yet. the ones that cheney referred to that would indicate the use of harsh interrogation tactics. certain documents have not been released yet critics say look, there's still too much on accountability loading around out there and therefore an investigation is warranted to bring accountability. would you say to those critics? >> that is absolute nonsense. i am not about fair and balanced on this issue. and now says that the cia, they

are big bullies, big girls, the best of the best that rightist of the bright and i'm telling you if they continued this path of clapping us, of causing us, we are absolutely putting the united states of america in a very, very honorable position. as i also wrote in that human events article, believe me there will be an attack on this nation that will work 9/11 because they're trying to keep us from doing our job. it is unacceptable and the american people need to pay very close attention to this speech he read his article, a fascinating read, the 27 years he spent hunting down terrorist. actor joining us. >> always a pleasure. >> alysin: at the new school year but an old fight is brewing in american classrooms. we will tell you it's where some students are being warned before reciting the pledge of allegiance. that's coming up. rick has looked at whether season and the last weekend of summer, alysin c1 i like it either c71 or we can to bring in

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>> dave: will come back to "fox & friends". an interesting shot of the

morning. wolf blitzer in the situation room takes on dana dining and andy richter on celebrity jeopardy. well, it wasn't pretty. here are a few reasons why both score ended up looking like the federal deficit. check this out your. >> will down $1600 check the name of this pasta means little mustaches. doesn't sound so tasty now. >> what is the gini? snack if you can read you can cook she wrote in the introduction to her classic mastering the art of french cooking ; as julia childs. >> that's right. i am informed you put a pass on julia childs name. it's julia child. after the duck the $800. your $200. king david and jesus both hail from this town to do both? >> what is true some. >> no. wolf, things have not worked out as well as you hoped for i'm sure.

speak you when you see the photo, when you look at the photo of the pasta, how do you think that sabbatini? >> alysin: i don't know. i was home, sick, two days ago and that i caught this episode and i thought my delirious right now, or is wolf puts her bombing. versatile, why is he on jeopardy? why is wolf blitzer -- >> dave: that. >> dave: is nothing to gain. that was for charity. he lost for grant. does charity have to write a check to jeopardy for for grant eq cd i don't know soon that was painful. >> dave: that for charity speak to a new study out this week about spanking. in toddlers -- we heard it from studies over the years and it's been a debate amongst youngsters whether or not on one side you have james dobson who believes school than children and applying appropriate amount of spanking is good for the children. other people say it's bad. a new study out shows that spanking toddlers, nearly

babies, can make these kids more aggressive as they get older in life and it could be problematic for them as they mature. >> alysin: not only more aggressive but apparently this study suggests if you spank one-year-olds, that they then performed more poorly on cognitive tests on our toddlers. so it affects their brain according to the study. having said that a vast majority of this country still believe in spanking in the right circumstances. 71% still supported. the study is the first time we've heard it would have an affect on the testing. >> dave: that scary. about one third of mothers of one-year-olds reported they or someone in the house had spanked their child in the last week. so clearly this affects an enormous portion of our population. are you a spank her to get. >> alysin: i never spank my children but i've been tempted. >> dave: inner sanctum kick it i wasn't spanked.

michael the french open was not to spank. i'm tempted on a daily basis and i'm not sure it's a bad thing. i'm on the fence about it right now speak i spank other people's kids soon as we got to our house. >> dave: you're the guy at wal-mart. speed freak personally i don't have kids but i was never spanked. one time i knocked some stuff up the stairs and i was like an armored kid at one point. my dad threatened as many he said i'll never do that again. but i've never been spanked. >> dave: my mother tried to spank me once. i broker wooden spoon. i hit it and she didn't have the will to carry on. but i've seen parents who constantly spank their kids and see them react in an almost violent fashion and ugly they do become more aggressive or if although i've spanked my kids a couple times. not my little guy. but the three-year-old couple times. none of your bottom, -- >> alysin: bay model what they see.

>> dave: where both sides coming up soon when actual experts coming up. you'll be pleased to hear that. soon after our headlines. from this into paradise, to mark chinese uighurs have agreed to go to the island of how bringing the total number of years in the pacific nation to six. the u.s. has been trying to figure out what to do with the uighurs since the pentagon ruled they are not enemy combatants. some have gone to allow, others to bermuda. they cannot be sent back to china because of likely persecution of the chinese government. >> a horrific scene inside a mexico city subway. someone takes a gun and start shooting after being confronted by police. two people were killed, five others were wounded or did the suspect was wanted by police. in response to expose up in police presence and starting random checks of subway riders. how scary. >> alysin: police say there's evidence that might connect to old kidnapping cases to jaycee

two guards suspected kidnapper phillip grego. investigators have found human bones on his property. over four days of searching and digging. jaycee to guard was held on the same property for 18 years before being found. >> a special delivery for north carolina woman. her six-year-old daughter was forced to play the role of midlife and she went into labor. this happened so quickly be mom, brenda johnson told her daughter, vienna two help because she could not get to the hospital in time. grandma says her daughter did a great job under command is pressure. mother, older daughter and a newborn 5-pound madison are all doing well. >> dave: lovely story. let's talk a little baseball. great ending, unless you're a yankee fan, and seattle. mariano on nine each euro he is not intimidated takes and deepen out and mariners went 3-2. boy, 36 states is for rivera

until that one only his second blown save all year. the yanks lead in the loss column.if i. at seven but for the red sox. >> and minnesota michael could either rights of the offense the second-place twins needed against the first-place tigers. they beat detroit three-set. the tiger leak seven games a week ago now down to three in the al central. >> to the ice and hit you have to see. although i warn you it is a nasty one. check out in calgary, the islanders file a posole, on the receiving end of a wallop by the flames dion back. i remind you this is preseason hockey. he was motionless on the ice for more than six minutes before being carted off on a stretcher. tests showed he suffered a mild concussion, should be okay. he says this was a clean hit. boy it is one that is hard to watch. >> good news to pass along from our producer joe, he said wolf

blitzer was allowed to donate $25,000 to his charity. so they didn't lose $4000 through an x-ray. now he just has to go to distribute issue back. let's go to wreck. >> rick: in with a visitor here. 1000 is asking about kaitlyn. and wanting to not if he is as crazy as he seems on tv. clayton, kate is asking about you figure i wonder i would say that. nevermind. take a look at the weather picture now. a cool start across the northeast. tonight will be one of the coldest nights this year. freeze warnings in effect across much of northern ointments tonight. if the cover any tender plants. across the south it still feels like summer any of the tropics going on. you're right in the peak of hurricane season. the little burst of cot cover you see there in the middle of the screen, that is what will appoint her confront. i don't think you'll see redevelopment of the storm but it will continue to move toward

the west and monday into tuesday we could talk about at least some increase muster a cross florida. farther out in the atlantic and access them we will continue to watch and this one could be more impressive. probably become your next on over the next day or so. across the 48 northeast look spectacular for the day-to-day. we have clear skies all day long. all day tomorrow. it will be a very nice one. down to the southeast we have a big storm going on across much of alabama and into georgia and tennessee today. we'll look at voting rights. across the west seattle and portland ulysses grant today. not across california and all. we will start to talk the next few days about a heat wave that will move into southern california and increase fire danger for much of the coming week. more of that coming up. anytime have ever seen shark tank? snack on bret thompson ceo of per barrel per project and he thought vp. our seeking investment of

$50,000 in exchange for a 10% stake in the company. a small price to pay, we think, to be partners with american company that isn't owned or operated by the federal government. >> would love to things, making great barbecue and making lots of money. speaker that is shark tank. he sought he felt that thompson ceo and president of corporal barbecue making her pitch on shark tank. they're hear cooking a bbq this afternoon with us. nice to see guys are excited to be here. >> dave: i like to get my morning started with barbecue for breakfast. tell me what inspired you about the government worker project to actually put that into a bbq sauce to make with both worked for former senator jim talent. one night during a debate we talked about what went on to talk about which is food they

were talking about poor girl standing on the floor and we are like -- that would be a great name. for real barbecue. so the porkbarrel barbecue company was born c3 this is the sauce. >> award-winning barbecue sauce speaker that's the sauce right there. he will show us the key -- it's the last weekend, last day of summer actually weakened a bbq. what is the key to this. take us through the line. >> it's never too cold or too hot to barbecue. keep barbecuing. we have our baby back ribs, and i think you are to have one stomach this is the second speaker you what's the key too. >> rub this in olive oil put our all-american spice rub on smoking with a combination of oak and hickory for about 3-3 then you have the product you're tasting right there. >> dave: this is unbelievable. the rub is outstanding. >> ketchikan which is similar. olive oil, the rub, about 45 minutes on your girl and direct

heat, and it is pretty much the same thing. then bret and i are conservatives, but we have a lot of liberal friends. not only does the bronco good on me, but it goes great on vegetables so we created a vegetable dish for our liberal friends. >> dave: conservatives don't eat vegetables keep you see three year sang liberals only vegetables keep you. >> which is one option for our liberal friends. speak you it's the key to that? >> a little olive oil put spice rub on a throne and grow it takes 15 minutes to do. >> we have 14 hours smoking on the grill. we're really proud our company isn't owned or operated by the federal government we're also pleased to serve our pulled pork. you can see how it poles, and a smoke ring. so we pulled that on the magic of television we got some pulled pork sandwiches see three keith

and bret from porkbarrel barbecue thank you for feeding us and not hating alysin. >> dave: great career move see why make sure there's enough out there i could actually have some as well youtube perhaps you could bring some in? >> dave: will bring you some alysin. >> alysin: thank you. thanks, guys. let me do the heavy lifting here all you guys are other evening. president obama says that illegal immigrants will not be covered under his healthcare plan. but governor huckabee weizen next to tell us if that's really the truth. with a second, he is out there also. governor, come in hear and bring some with you. >> mike: i'm not coming. i'm staying here.

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>> alysin: president obama at a point in his address to congress saying he would not expand healthcare benefits to illegal immigrants under healthcare reform. some think the president earlier said this week has some wondering if he really wants amnesty as a backdoor to get illegals covered. listen to this. >> even though i do not believe we can extend coverage to those here illegally i also don't believe we can ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken. if anything this debate underscores the necessity of passing a comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all. >> alysin: i was at the congressional hispanic caucus on wednesday. i'm joined now by governor mike huckabee, post of huckabee.

dan simon, governor. >> i will. i am ticked off about the barbecue set to come inside soon i'm sorry a news program is interrupting our bbq fest. you can either eating barbecue amateur is good to be here. so when people are concerned, as you will remember, commerce and joe wilson yelled "you lie" because some don't believe people don't believe the illegal aliens will be covered. what are your thoughts speak and he has now said that they should not be covered if they are illegal. presto change i will just make them legal. and this is barack houdini who has a lot of magic going on. whatever it was worth 7 million uninsured until suddenly we spoke to congress, 17 million of them magically disappeared. there were only 30 million in that speech. what happened to the other 17 million cubic. >> alysin: 12 million is the number of illegal word here. what's the practical. but those element people use

emergency rooms as their primary care offices, doesn't just stand to reason that they should pay into some sort of system to keep her there should be a low-cost clinic they should go to rather than have the ripple effect that affects us speak in a summer's hit by a car has an accident on the job site legal or not they will be treated at the emergency room. i don't know any american would say no. none of us are not heartless. the issue is not gosh, are we going to take care of a personnel crisis? the question is whether we secure our borders. that's the real issue. why haven't we thought about the fact that we need secure borders. we want people to immigrate to this country. we are wonderful mission because of immigrants. but when people immigrate hear that should come through the front door with a welcome and not slip in a window during the night. that's the issue they are not addressing. should it be carte blanche benefits for illegals? should we treat people in a crisis yes but should we really do need focusing on how to fix this problem in a more significant way, and that is

secure borders. legitimate reasonable process to get across the border so we know who is here, why they are here and what they're doing here spewing another great area, there are millions of people here working legally but who are not citizens. where do they fall into the whole health-care reform plan stack if you have a universal health care they have to pay in and they should pay and because there should not be a tax funded benefits for people who aren't citizens. i mean if they're paying taxes and paying him like everyone else they could be part of a larger pool. if they are here legally, legal is the key word here. she went with a talk about the pledge of allegiance. we will get the boys back it up i can drive drag them in. advocacy groups are targeting the pledge of allegiance. they want students given a warning before saying the phrase "one nation, under god." this is my small-business specialist, tara.

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>> i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. speech read they might get a fine. saying the pledge of allegiance is an right of passage in america's schools but did you know your kids can opt out of receiving an object you some advocacy groups which take issue with the phrase one nation under god, for making sure kids are read a brand or warning on them and now they don't have to recite the pledge. >> dave: joining us again is governor mike huckabee. again, it's a brand awareness and miranda rights when you're arrested. this is going too far to give.

>> mike: of course. this is idiotic. i understand parents might want to pull their kids aside and said you're living in a wonderful country that is your freedom, effective the freedom to be stupid, to say dumb things, and to fight, everything about your torment, but that's your freedom. look, there comes a point at which this is lunacy when we must make it where we are ashamed to tell our kids what a great country they live in. i was required to say the pledge of allegiance every single day when i was a kid going through grade school speech read the digital you weren't allowed to give in a court ruling in 1943, west virginia state board of education versus burnett, said no government official had the power to compel people to pledge the allegiance. as a child did you know you have a right not to do it? speech and i guess my point is, if a parent told his or her child look, i don't like doing this, -- i do know kids for example they could go to the

christmas parties at her school because they're part of a faith. i think the rest of us as kids rather than make fun of them without well, that's pretty bold. and we never made fun of anyone. we even thought that was an expression that gave us a lot of respect for them. i think it is fine if a parent doesn't want it, but it is almost like we are ashamed of our country. i am proud of my country. i want every kid growing up to understand you are in an exceptional nation. there is not another like it in the world. you do all your country something. >> dave: as the underdog part, to suggest you should say that even if you're an atheist or come from an atheist family to give. >> mike: if you read the declaration of independence, we say? window by our creator. i don't want to say that i might blurt out some religious thought. like it or not, go to the monuments in washington dc, look at what jefferson, and washington said, they talk about god. he cannot hide the fact that it

is part of our culture history and founding. got to agree with it keep you know. that's the beauty of america. let's not rewrite our history and act like it's not part of who we are speakers on our money speech and don't spend money speech or you can send it to me. speaking at the good idea. i was put with you. >> dave: what's on the show? speech and we have a wonderful new launch that will include an e-mail option of a guitar signed by 35 of the celebrity artists of the number show. the proceeds will buy musical concerts for kids. we are medical doctors who are conversation talking about healthcare plan and 12 million people watch this wonderful video on youtube. you'll see it today. >> dave: alysin was coming up on the show? >> alysin: i'm enjoying some porkbarrel barbecue out here. i'm glad you left me some. we'll show you more this coming up. we also have breaking news for you. some new developments this morning i met possible terror plot or did that has been broken up. >> we want to show you some kind

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>> good morning everyone, it's saturday, september 19th. here is what's happening at this hour. there are new details this morning in the new york city terror plot. the chief suspect now admitting he has ties to al-qaeda. find out what else we're learning about a possible attack in the works. >> also, seven former cia chiefs want the president to call off the investigation into harsh interrogation tactics under president bush. why they say the probe puts the united states in danger.

>> and it's a hot button issue for parents. is spanking a good way to stop a bad behavior or make your kids more aggressive? we'll have a debate every parent should here coming up. from patricia lieu awe right here in new york city. morning coffee, toast and eggs delicious, "fox & friends" fair and balanced, never vicious. boom! she added the boom, i acted it out for you. >> it's "fox & friends." >> everybody, i feel totally rejuvenated from the pouring sandwich. while you were off for two days, dave briggs is wildly under the weather right now. what do you have? >> i think it's just a head cold though i'm being told i have symptoms of the swine flu, don't worry guys, just a nasty head cold and who will get it next, we'll see you tomorrow morning. >> i'm start to go feel a tickle in my throat. is this how it starts. >> it started with aly.

>> and then me, then you. >> talk about this, chris wallace going to be here he's been quarantined in d.c., knows we're sick. he has an exclusive interview with bertha lewis the head of acorn and we've been asking you all morning to get your questions for bertha lewis, what would you want chris wallace to ask and you're doing it on twitter. >> we'll also ask why chris why he was shut out of the president's round robin. the president is doing, i think, a record breaking sunday morning talk show circuit tomorrow, but not chris. what did chris do to got cut out of this. we'll ask next. >> it's been done before it's called the full ginsburg. i'll tell you more. the chief suspect in a planned tower attack on new york city admits he has ties to al-qaeda. alicia acuna from my hometown of denver. >> just to let you know, first off he's expected to head to

headquarters for a fourth round of questioning. as he does this, his torn continues to point out his client has yet to be arrested. he was allowed to go home last night after spending all day at headquarters. fox news mentioned that zazi in theed a tie to al-qaeda. and a senior u.s. intelligence official has told he was involved in a potential terror attack here in the united states. his father, 53-year-old mohammed zazi did spend three hours with feb investigators and went in voluntarily according to a spokesperson for the family. when he came out reporters were asking him a number of questions and all he could say, i don't know the truth. and again, both zazi have gone in voluntarily for the

interviews. according to the justice department he's working on some sort of plea deal with the government. art fullsome, his attorney says again those are simply just rumors. so we'll bring you up-to-date as the day goes on as mr. zazi goes back downtown deven for more questioning. back to you. >> thanks, alicia. >> thank you. here are your headlines at this hour, president obama is preparing for the g-20 summit in pittsburgh next week and while the president says the world's leading economic powers have made real progress in stabilizing the economy. he says there's still plenty of unfinished business. >> we know we still have a lot to do in conjunction with the nations around the world to strengthen the rules governing financial markets and ensure that we never again find ourselves in the precarious situation we found ourselves in just one year ago. >> much of the summit will focus on strengthening financial regulation and make sure that a credit crisis does not happen again.

>> connecticut police are saying they may never be able to determined a motive in the murder of annie le. the op person who knows why she was killed is the 24-year-old suspect charged, lab technician raymond kelly-- clark, i should say raymond clark. clark has not entered a plea in court and has not confessed to the crime. former pez george bush has released a statement on the death of irving crystal, the man considered to be the godfather of the neo conservative movement. here is what he said. laura and i are saddened by the death of irving crystal. he was an intellectual pioneer who advanced the conservative movement, his thoughtful commentaries will be missed the father of fox news analyst bill kristol, he died of young

cancer, 89 years old. >> a great piece by the way in the new york times if you want to read it todayments thank you for at that update. . >> the first doses of swine flu vaccine may be in the form of the nasal spray variety. this is according to federal health officials, they say 3.4 million doses of vaccine will be available in early october, but the vaccine is only approved for healthy people aged 2 to 49 years old. the world health organization says h1n1 has killed 649 people worldwide since august 30th. the hammer is getting ready for hollywood. former house republican leader tom delay. >> oh, no. >> is brushing up on his dancing skills with partner cheryl burke before he goes on dancing with the stars. so we want to know, does delay think he has some sexy moves? >> no, not sexy just having fun, okay? >> i'm not sexy, believe me. >> but you have the moves, you say? >> not yet they're coming, i'm

progressing very well. >> delay originally suffered a pre-stress foot fracture during rehearseals, but says he's going to dance his way through it. you guys know a little bit about this. >> and cheryl burke, she was our trainer. >> we were with cheryl burke. we asked governor huckabee if he would ever do it. he said no way, never dancing with the stars. i think that rick reichmuth could dance. >> i'm sure he can. >> he think he can dance. >> not like that. >> would you do it? >> no, you have to be a celebrity and-- >> you're famous. >> yeah, whatever. freeze warnings, guys, for the the next-- for tonight across northern new england, elevation, adirondacks and the mountains and that's where we're seeing the coldest temperatures-- mountain range in southern new hampshire over vermont and rain across parts of the south. this is very heavy raining causing big time flooding concerns and all of these counties you see shaded here

have flood watches and warnings and flash flooding in across parts of tennessee. big concerns, this is part of the system that brought much needed rain to texas. this is where the drought was a week and a half ago. the worst areas across texas and what you can see now move forward. and far removed from what we saw. beneficial rain from the storm. here is your temperatures today. we notice it's warm across the far northern plains and warm across the south, but start to go see a few instances of fall-like temperatures around and across the west we're going to deal with a big warm-up this week, major fire concerns are going to move in starting sunday and probably all the way through friday. we're going to be dealing with an off shore flow, that's going to warm temperatures up, a major wind event and low humidities and higher temperatures are problems and cooler air across the north and threats for severe whether is back this week and guys, fallment lots of stuff beginning to go on. >> fall. >> i'm looking up.

notten knocks. >> take a look at this controversial new book "no kids", we have the author, 40 good reasons not to have children. cutting down on your desire because kids can knock off your desire, can cut you down on ambitions in your life among other things. >> let us read you some of the titles of the chapters, the desire for children, a silly idea. you avoid, if you don't have children you avoid become ago walking pass fire. if you don't have children you get to keep having fun. rat race plus rugrats, no thank you. >> a few other chapters we want to let now, you get to keep your friends. >> i have to stop you right here, that's a huge one. very true. >> i've had to put my friends on ice the past three years. >> absolutely, don't have to use that idiot language talking to kids.

kids are the death of desire as you mentioned earlier and the child a sort of innately cruel dwarf, the author as two cruel dwarfs. >> motherhood is a trap for women. pick one, too many children in the world and goes on and on. it's interesting, she talks about you don't have to sound like an idiot when talking. that's my problem when i talk to kids, i can't talk to them like they're two years old. i talk to them like adults. hey, you want the rest of this? i can't eat it. >> i talk to them like i talk to you. >> you're allowed to do that. you don't always have to use baby talk. now, having said that my iq has dropped precipitously since having children because my vocabulary has been limited to dora. >> diego. >> she says provocative things obviously in the book and i think that it's refreshing to hear somebody buck the trend,

because everybody says you have to get married and have children and nice to hear the other side, but she obviously miss the fulfilling part of having children. >> and here is my question to you. motherhood or success, she says it's one or the other. your a' a mother and appear to be successful. you dispute a notion. >> although it's harder to be ambitious when they have childrenments it's not like an either/or. >> as i pointed out the winner of the u.s. open is a mother, a worldclass athlete who has to train. >> every time they mentioned her she also said this is kim clijste clijsters, she's also a mom. why does it have to be relevant. she's an athlete and a mom. every time we heard it-- >> it's unusual. >> it is unusual, maybe there's something to be said. let us know what you think. the topic, no kids, and-- >> lots of kids, they're the great, the best. >> have a litter? >> yeah, just keep having

them. >> i'll borrow one of yours and you can start the process and borrow one of yours. >> okay. >> president obama about to go on an allout media blitz appearing on five, count them five sunday talk shows to push health care reforment one show noticeably absent from his list, that's fox news sunday. we are going to talk to host chris wallace about that next. >> we've been cooking up great barbecue this morning on the show. >> this is the best. >> this is the pork barrel barbecue. they found my iphone. ♪ . bicycle, i've missed you. gathering dust, as pollen floats through the air.

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>> as you may have heard, president obama is making the network rounds tomorrow, appearing on a record five sunday news programs, including, yes, univision, but you won't find the president on one show, the highly rated fox news sunday with our own chris wallace. >> and chris wallace is here with us now. chris, good morning. >> well, listen i have to be somewhere, i'm kind of lonely, i don't have the president to talk to. >> it's funny you say that, chris, because this does beg the question, what did you do to tick off the president? >> you know, i don't know. i did what i do. i ask tough questions, i ask different questions as i think we do on fox than a lot of the mainstream media which marches in lock step. they don't like it and so we're going to do our business, we've got a very good show tomorrow, but we're not going to have the president and we're fine with that. >> we're going to get into your show coming up. bill o'reilly wrote about this

in a piece, he says by avoiding fox, the pr ez looks week, he's preaching to choir, and the choir is losing members all the polls show that. wouldn't it help the president to come on fax and do an interview and answer the tough questions? >> what seemed to me, obviously, this is somewhat self-serving to say, but fox is so far and away the most powerful name in cable news and as we have a seen in the last couple of weeks with van jones and acorn, really, can drive the news. and you've got a president here who has promised that he was going to reach out to all americans, so you wonder what happened to that. you know, there's just-- i got to say that there is a pettiness to this white house that i get calls all the time we don't like you did this, we don't like that did you that. af covered a lot of white house ins my 30 years in washington, i covered ronald reagan for nbc news back in the '80s and you'd come in do a tough piece one day and you know, because it seemed like the facts were unfavorable to

the president and the next day you do a piece that might have been more favorable and they always treated you with professionalism and i think this came from the president himself as if you know, one day you get a good review in hollywood, another day a bad review, nothing personal about it. there's a childishness to this organization that i think, you know, that they would not only do cbs, abc, cnn, i don't mean to denigrate univision, not on the usual roster of sunday talk shows and apparently univision announced today that the white house came to them. they didn't even have a request in for the president. >> really? >> so, you know, as i say it's kind of childish and petty, we'll do just fine with or without them, but we are going to do what we do. >> chris, here is another interesting fact for you, is that by the day's end tomorrow, the president will have done 124 print and broadcast interviews. if you compare that to his

predecessors to george w. bush and clinton. george w. bush had done 40 by this time in his presidency, bill clinton 46 so president obama is doing many, many more. chris, last, did they give you a reason for not coming on your show tomorrow? >> no, and they don't have to. i mean, we don't-- they shouldn't, they do, but they don't tell us how to cover the news, we don't tell them how to stage the news. we'd like to have an interview with the president, but i think they risk the danger of overexposure and i to the white house says, yeah, you talk about overexposure of all the media and then you're requesting more interviews with the president, but sometimes you know, it's like kids, it's their job to say no and they don't say no in terms of sort of guarding the-- what's very special, which is access to the president. >> we've got to leave it there mr. wallace, more in just a minute. talking acorn in just about two minutes. stay around.

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>> we are back this morning with the host of fox news sunday, chris wallace, while he's not interviewing the president tomorrow morning he does have an exclusive sitdown with public enemy number one the ceo of acorn, bertha lewis. chris, that's a pretty big score and that's something that you're not really worried about sit do you think with the presidentment why did she agree to sit down with you? well, i had a lon talk with her, in fact, i took her to lunch this week and basically said to her, you're in trouble, not that i had to tell her that. obviously, this has been a target of conservatives for some time, but now democrats are pulling the plug. liberals are pulling the plug up on capitol hill, 172 democrats in the house voted to defund all federal money to acorn, so, i said what could be a better venue for you than

to come on fox news, she's going to be on with darryl issa, a congressman from california wrote a big report, an investigation of acorn and give her her say and ask her tough questions. she said as long as it's fair, she's ready to go so we'll give her a fair, respectful hearing tomorrow. that's one of the things why i threw ott this morning, threw the question out to viewers and "fox & friends" viewers responded with questions they wanted answered about bertha lewis. virginia, in worcester, ohio wrote us this morning and she says, ask chris if, how does the company in deep turmoil expect us to believe anything from their own investigations, we heard acorn is doing their own investigations, how are we to believe acorn responsible in that way is going to come forward and show that these people have been investigated properly, we've moved on and we're the strong organization that you know and love. >> it's a good question.

bertha lewis came on last year after it blow up the fact that the brother of the founder, the rahsski brothers and brother of wade, the founder had miss appropriated about a million dollars from acorn. she came in as part of the cleanup crew and you know, and it is on her watch that these videos have come out. obviously, the videos, undercover videos that show this young man and woman posing as a pimp and prostitute and acorn employees giving them advice getting around giving a loan for-- or getting a loan for housing to avoid paying their taxes or smuggle kids into the country so we are going to ask her about it. she was part of the reform movement and what's gone wrong. obviously, a lot of good questions, we'll hear whether there are good answers. >> we have tons of e-mails. and what time can we see the interview, chris. >> check your local listings on the fox broadcast network, sunday mornings, you know, the

network of 24 and idol and all the other shows. and then we're replayed on the fox news cham 2 p.m. eastern and 6 p.m. eastern and do me a favor, clayton accepted me those e-mails because sometimes i have to say, often times the best questions i get come from the viewers. >> absolutely. we want to leave our viewers with this, as we go to break here this morning because chris was kind enough to wear the snuggie he received last week and whether or not he would wear it during the interview, but you wear it at home. >> i wear it for the purpose intended. i don't know if you can see ti must say i look marvelous, don't you think? it has the university of michigan logo festooned all over it, i wore it last week and we beat notre dame in a thriller. we're playing eastern michigan today, i will be at home watching the game wearing my michigan snuggie on special event. >> i like that you're relaxing with your dress shoes on.

>> it was at work, i didn't have-- that's not what i wear, i wear my slippers. my mug swamps or whatever they are. >> and a robe. chris wallace we can't wait to see the interview with bertha lewis, thanks, chris. >> you bet, thanks, guys. >> coming up on the show, seven former cia directors telling the president to stop investigating their agents. why they say the white house is putting our nation's security at risk. that's next, plus, state republicans are howling mad in massachusetts. a look at the new tax hike on dogs. that's all when we come back. >> get dogs to pay. >> and get a snuggie. achoo! (announcer) what are you going to miss when you have an allergy attack? achoo! (announcer) benadryl is more effective than claritin at relieving your worst symptoms. and works when you need it most. benadryl. you can't pause life.

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>> hey, welcome back everybody. thanks for joining us this morning. i'm alisyn camerota here with clayton morris and dave briggs. so we wanted to tell, but this letter that was sent yesterday to the white house by seven former cia, the heads of the cia, cia chiefs, you know the names. porter goss, george ten nat. interesting about this group it's nonpartisan. some worked for democratic presidents and some for republican presidents and sent a letter to president obama asking him to stop the inquiry, the investigation into whether or not in the days and years after 9/11 the enhanced interrogation techniques used were appropriate or inappropriate or even criminal. they do not want more investigations into this. >> and the reason of course as

the investigation unfolded as critics alleged these documents that vice-president cheney said would vindicate him have not been released by the cia and some suggest that this investigation should go on. we talked earlier and i asked him whether or not this was a valid reason for this, a former cia operative. listen to his response. >> i'm not about fair and balanced in this issue. fair and balanced is that the cia-- they are big boys, big girls, they are the best of the best, the brightest of the bright and i'm telling you, if they continue this path of clamping us, cuffings us, we are absolutely putting the united states of america in a very, very vulnerable position and as i read a hume events article, there will be an attack on this nation that will dwarf 9/11 because they are trying to keep us from doing our job. it is unacceptable and the american people need to pay very, very close attention to this. >> wow, he is fired up and the

seven cia heads argue that it will strengthen al-qaeda, that intelligence agencies around the world will not want to work with the united states with fear that their secrets could be released, their people could be prosecuted. the cia heads, again, as you said from bush to reagan, to clinton, to carter, bipartisan group of cia heads, strongly in favor of overturning this investigation. >> there are a lot of reasons people are against this not just the cia heads think this is a bad idea. basically, since nobody has been able to determine what exactly is torture there's a huge debate about that. how can you determine if someone crossed the line back in 2001. >> interesting questions, meanwhile, now we're learning what's going to be happening on wall street, cracking down on federal pay this morning, too. >> that's right, because the federal reserve is set to crackdown again on executive pay and fox's caroline shively joins us live from washington with the very latest. what have they decided, caroline? >> they're still looking into the rules, alisyn, it could be a few weeks before they make the final decision, but what they're considering at the fed

are new rules governing paychecks at banks, not just executives, but anyone that could cut deals that would risk the health of the institution. already they're looking at top executives at seven companies who look bailout money, but the proposal would cover thousands of banks and holding companies across the u.s. and wouldn't just cover bank tellers, wouldn't cover bank tellers. the thinking is this, the fed wants to block plans that reward quick revenue production, but ignores the financial health of the companies, how the big banks got in the trouble in the first place and some lawmakers complain that the fed shouldn't have this authority over paychecks at private companies who haven't taken federal money. president obama spoke about bonuses in general during his internet broadcast this morningments we can't allow the theirs for reckless schemes that produce quick profits and bones to override

the security of our entire financial system and leave taxpayers on the hook for cleaning up the mess. >> some members of congress are so riled up, but the fed's growing power at that they're sponsoring a bill to have the general accountability office actually audit the fed. alisyn. >> caroline, thank you for that judgment. le -- that update. >> our next guest is considered one of the foremost surgeons in the wohlrld. after decade of surgery, the doctor noticed a dangerous epidemic involving teen athletes. the doctor joins us from birmingham, alabama. good morning to you, doctor. >> good morning, good morning. you've referred to this as an epidemic, the amount of shoulder and elbow injuries among teen athletes. what is happening in this country? >> well, you know, sports is a big part of our social and

economic environment in the united states and we're all for kids participating in sports, but we've seen an epidemic about five times increase in sports related injuries in our youth since year 2000. there's the problem. >> yes, you say in 2001, 2002, you performed 13 shoulder operations on teenagers. 24 1 over the next years, what is the warning to parents and coaches across this country? >> well, our research here at birmingham at asmi show that a young baseball player, for example, participates with fatigue, seasonal fatigue, yearly fatigue event fatigue, 36 to 1 times he'll injure his throwing arm if he's fatigued. overuse and fatigue are the big factors. >> and just want to point out the tommy john elbow surgeries, shoulder surgeries you perform.

the intention was for previously athletes not something frequent used for teenage athletes. where do parents draw the line between normal and overuse? >> well, there are certain risk factors that are just common sense risk factors and the number one risk factor is year around sports. year around baseball, for example, playing in more than one league at the same time. pitch count, overuse of pitching, not having a pitch count rule so all of these factors are-- will play a part in these young kids getting hurt and that's the reason for the escalation. >> it's a good thing that you're bringing attention to it and parents should pay attention. i have to ask you before you go. i know you operated on the famed shoulder of brett favre this past season and there are doubts he may or may not stand up to the 16-game season. how do you think the shoulder will hold up on the old man? >> well, you know, he's a-- his age may be there, but he's

a young kid at heart and i'm sure as long as he's having fun playing, he's surrounding himself by a great bunch of football players with the minnesota vikings and he's got that running back up there. so i would expect bret to have a great year. >> do you think he'll make it 16 games? >> well, we're going to hope so and he's prepared and we've done the best we could. he has, too, and i would say that everybody's got their neck stuck out, but i think he'll be fine. >> all right, dr. andrews, we appreciate you joining us this morning. anywhere parents can go for information on how to' void shoulder and elbow surgeries for the teen athletes? >> well, they can certainly web-- joining our website it's american sports medicine institute and we've got plenty of information. there's lots of information on the internet about prevention of injuries in youth sports. >> doc, we hope parents are listening. thank you so much, you have an alabama and auburn football game to get to. appreciate your time this

morning. >> outside to rick as a check of our weather-- probably still eating barbecue if i know rick. >> i am, i'm going to avoid the buns this time. we're talking about barbecue, what did you tell about the sauce? >> i it's the best sauce in the world. >> no you said you didn't like it. >> i don't like it. that was the kicker. all right, you can get this at pork baseball bbq.com or at harris if you want to buy one of those, look at the weather maps, a cool start across much of the northeast and cool across parts of the west, feels like summer across the south. it's muggy, af got that humid air mass, still. 72 as you wake up in atlanta. moving forward, a very nice day across much of the northeast, another nice day today. a little bit of rain moving towards the western side of that picture by tomorrow, i'll show you that across the west coast though we've got rain across the pacific northwest. as this pulls in, a rain maker in the plains this week, but the southwest is going to deal

with a big warm-up in your temperatures. the rain across the southeast is kind of our bigger story though, some flooding going on across alabama in towards parts of tennessee and later on towards wisconsin and the setup for today, this is that area of low pressure that's not been moving much at all. by tomorrow, it is going to move off towards the north, and the rain is going to spread in towards the north as well. we'll even see some rain headed towards parts of michigan to the east chicago. chicago, i think you're going to be fine. a look at your week. send it back to you inside. clayton. >> coming up here on the show, president obama's push for universal health care may not be just too expensive, it could also be unconstitutional. we will explain and debate that when we come back. is this camera still drifting. >> no, did i just break it? did i break it? ♪ (announcer) time brings new wisdom

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>> welcome back. health care for all americansment sundays all american, right? but our next guest says mandating coverage is flat out unconstitutional. >> we're joined by a constitutional law expert who served in the department of justice during the reagan and george h.w. bush administrations. good morning. >> good morning to you. >> unconstitutional, that's what the critics say many things we lie on in our federal government that are not part of the constitution, there's no mention of fire services, police forces, there's no libraries listed in our constitution. there's also not social security listed in our constitution and many people would say we rely on that. is this, therefore, unconstitutional, the health care and shouldn't we be concerned about at that? >> well, let me be clear what's unconstitutional is a particular feature of the

health care reform plan. an individual purchase mandate and this is clearly unconstitutional not because it's not mentioned in the constitution, but rather because the constitution specifically prohibits this. the way the constitution does this, the federal government is the government of limited and enumerated power. federal congress doesn't have a power to legislate in every area. it's not in the design, framers want today diffuse power, make sure that no single government entity exercises power and key to individual liberty. the prem you have here, congress has the power to regulate commerce, but the individual mandate has nothing to do with the regulation of commerce, it really tells you, it regulates you as an individual. it regulates you all americans because they simply-- >> okay, david, let me ask you a question. would you agree that insurance companies should be forced to cover people regardless of previous illness or preexisting conditions, yes or no? >> constitutionally, i think the government can do that.

that's rather-- >> here is the problem, the problem, david, sorry to interrupt. if you then do that, what stops people from carrying zero insurance until all of a sudden they get sick and walk up to an insurance company and say you have to cover me because you can't deny me because of previous illness or preexisting condition. >> you're absolutely right and i make the point in the wall street journal piece, you would have dysfunctional result. if you take the constitution seriously, you cannot proceed unconstitutionally in order to make effective your policy. you're basically saying, the same thing in my piece, the entire registry scheme that the obama administration wants cannot be suns stained by this mandate. so, sorry the mandate is unconstitutional, therefore the entire scheme falls apart. . >> under your point, because the government would mandate that excise tax on you under senator baucus' plan, people who don't maintain insurance for themselves would have to pay the excise tax up to $1500

a year. nowhere in the constitution does it say that this is mandated upon me and i have to come out of pocket and live up to this, right? >> let me emphasize, it's not a tax, it's a fine. it's important, because think about it for a second government can mandate you having a health insurance, imposing a fine, they can direct every disposable dollar after taxes. the government can tell you to buy a health club membership, buy a certain amount of fruits and veggies every year, that would turn the federal government into a government of unlimited power and fundamentally destroy the power and that would not be allowed to stand. >> check out the wall street journal piece, mandatory insurance is unconstitutional, thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> a new controversy over spanking children. does it work or actually does it encourage bad behavior? we will have a parenting debate you certainly don't want to miss right after the

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>> all right. listen up, parents, this may change the way you think about spanking, a new study flies in the face of the owed addage, spare the rod, spoil the child. research shows that spanking one year olds not om makes them more aggressive as toddlers, but impacts their cognitive development. i'm joaned by the psychotherapist, virginia cline a senior fellow at the family research council. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> peter, let me start with you, this is new research out of duke university. i know that you personally approve of spanking, but does this new study suggest that perhaps one year old is too young to be spanked?

>> well, i think that's an important point. the problem is that this study which is relatively narrow finding about one year olds is going to be interpreted by a lot of people as an argument against spanking, any children at any age and that's not really a valid interpretation of it. the reason-- the experts we consulted with suggest that spanking can be an effective means of discipline between the ages of about two and eight. and you know, there's no reason why chirp-- in fact, the study actually confirmed that in a sense by showing that children spanked at age two did not have the negative characteristics identified in children spanked at age one. age one may be too young because of cognitive development. >> is this avoiding spanking to one-year-old, but two to eight could be a good deterrent. >> it's a deterrent because when you're little the people who spank you are bigger than

you. we all have angry feelings and occasionally angry behaviors. children learn it's okay for bigger people, more powerful people to express those angry behaviors too littler people and when they get bigger, they do the same to playmates. >> let me stop you for a second. what if spanking is not about anger, but if the child runs into traffic, say, maybe a spanking is more effective deterrent than a stern talking to? >> well, a stern talking to, if you show a child how a dog gets squashed by a car, that will deter them a lot better than hitting them. >> yeah, peter your response. >> well, i just wanted to say it's not just a question of big or little or being powerful or weak, it's a question of authority. and i think we understand, kid don't have trouble when they're growing up understanding that the police are allowed to use force in a way that an ordinary citizen is not allowed to use force. the fact that police use guns

does not, i mean, that ordinary citizens can use guns in the same way. and the same thing is true within the home. the parent is in a position of authority over the child and that is what gives them the right to engage in behavior that the child themself is not engaged in. i think children can understand that. >> virginia, you're shaking your head. >> well, i'm shaking my head is what happens, we all have angry feelings and angry behaviors, we have to separate the feelings and show children what they can do. we can't do that if would he hit them because then we teach them when you're bigger, you can hit someone. listening to a parent, you have to say, take your feelings, here is a pillow, you can smack the pillow, but you can't smack another person or say something that hurts their feelings. >> sure, not all spanking is about anger from the parent, some is about discipline. >> yes, but the problem is, the-- showing them why not to do

something or beyond the time of cognition, if you don't demonstrate one way, they won't use that way, when they get older. >> because we do know that children do ape the behaviors of their parents. >> peter and virginia, thank you for debating this. obviously the debate continues and we'll read some of your comments on the blog in the after the show show. thanks so much. meanwhile, let's go to the guys outside, i think they're still eating. >> we're still eating. >> we are. >> we've got burger. >> sliders. >> pork sliders. who wants one. we will be right back. geatmagi reen f a.. coatofigf poulida..

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