george pataki is my special guest. he has surprising reports on the president of the united states telling the governor of new york not to run for re-election. isn't he busy on healthcare? should he be doing that? it's only on f.b.n. which by the way, if you don't have -- >> demand it! >> don imus wanted me to pass that along. glood plan. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute ---www.ncicap.org--- glenn: welcome to the glenn beck program. addrebñ?ñ?ssed acorn, yeah, one time out of the five interviews and here is what he said. >> how about the funding for acorn? >> frankly, it's not really something i follow closely. i didn't even know that acorn was getting a whole lot of federal money. glenn: he wasn't following it? geez. does the white house not d.v.r. this network snim's just saying you should do that. a special one-hour one on one with the president of the united states right here. well, kind of.

he's in the area. i have the questions that he should be asked, but i have to get his answers from, you know, other interviews. his own words, tonight, the president in his own words. but i'm going to ask tough questions. if you believe this country is great but the government is trying to silence dissent, stand up, come on, follow me. well, hello, america. we have so much to cover this week. i'm going to get into indoctrine inflammation this week, and we're -- indoctrination, and we're going to get into all these new special laws they're doing to help the media along. did you hear? we might bail out newspapers. wouldn't that be great? oh! government-run newspapers. of course, they don't want to. but they had to. uh-huh. oh, yeah, it's coming. a very special show for you tonight.

our exclusive one-hour with the president of the united states, barack obama, yeah. he's obviously, you know, he's not here, but it is kind of an exclusive -- well, kind of. i mean, the president did sit down with abc, nbc, cnn, cbs, david letterman tonight, and, oh, univision." i think i might have even seen him on the cartoon network as well. he won't come here. i mean, not even sit down wh a real journalist like bret or mr. wallace or, you know, anybody but me, you know. no, he won't. he won't do that. does the president consider fox some sort of enemy? no, it can't be that, because, no, he will sit down with our enemies. he has even offered to sit down with mahmoud ahmadinejad, and you call me have you seen him? also, he will sit down with the leadership of syria and jim jung il and just chat

about things. it kind of makes you wonder what category reputs fox in, doesn't it? tonight i decided to ask the president some questions and then use the answers he has provided already because he won't give us anything new. the entire hour, one on one, me and barack owe balm massments it's an interview you won't see anyplace else. it is kind of an exclusive. no one else is putting this stuff together. of course, they don't have to, because he will just drop on by at any time. i keep hearing people say, oh, barack obama he ran as a centrist but now he is running from the left further than anyone expected. really? i maintain that's not true. i contend that barack obama told us everything he intended to do and he still is, he every step of the way. people just didn't listen. they only heard what they wanted to hear. well, do this before we start.

ok. it's working, because we're about to give you another chance to hear it. i mean, listen this time. really hear barack obama in his own words. ready? have you done it? let's get right to the healthcare debate. much has been said now about the single-payer healthcare system. the president, he wants it, or he doesn't want it, or does he want it? i'm not really sure. which is it? >> i have not said that i was a single-payer supporter, because, frankly, we historically have had an employer-based system in this country with private insurers, and for us to transition to a system like, that i believe, would be too disruptive. glenn: ok. i want to make sure i understand it. i'm not for it. i never said that because why? because you don't believe in it, or because the transition would be too disruptive? i'm not sure, but i do know a

few years ago president obama said this to the afl-cio. >> i happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare code, universal healthcare plan. that is what i would like to see. glenn: odd. transitioning right now may be -- see what i'm saying? it is the old game of what is the definition of is? well, i thought we all knew, you know, but apparently not. it sounds clear to me. if i may quote again "i happen to be a proponent of the single-payer healthcare plan." universal healthcare. i know. it's hard to understand unless you have done this. what? it's difficult to reconcile unless you listen. it makes it even harder when you hear what others around him and in the white house and congress and key advisors and special are interests are have also said about single-payer

health. >> i think if we get a good public option, it could lead to single payer and that's the best way to to be single payer. >> and the guy from the insurance company then argued against the public health insurance option saying it wouldn't let private insurance compete. their public option will put the private insurance businesses out of business. and lead to a single payer system. he was right! the man was right. glenn: someone once said this is a trojan horse for single payer. i said it's not a trojan horse. it's right there. i'm telling you, we're going to get there, over time, slowly, but we will move away from reliance on employment-based health insurance, as we should, but we are doing it in a way that won't frighten people into thinking they will lose their private insurance. glenn: so, in other words, what the guy just said from

tides is that it won't be so disruptive. wouldn't you have loved if somebody put that together and said to the president yesterday, so, you're for it, you just want to do it slowly like tides wants you to do, right? wouldn't that have been a good question? no, they didn't get to that one. by the way, tides, in case you don't know what they are. tides foundation is with george soros. drummond pike, the tides' c.e.o., he was the treasurer of of democracy alliance, also soros foundation, and tides, so you know, brings the apollo alliance. the apollo alliance, that's the one that wrote the stimulus bill. oh, van jones is on the apollo alliance board. oh. oh, jeff jones -- do we have the great picture of jeff jones, in case you haven't seen jeff jones. yes, i love this. we got his fingerprints, too, only because his organization that he started in the '60's was bombing the pentagon, but forget about all of that. he is with the apollo

alliance. the apollo alliance, oh, look, it's acorn! acorn founder wade rathke is former chairman of tides center. that's wierd! rathke was on the tides board! acorn, tides apollo, van jones, jeff jones, weather underground, oh, oh -- but the good news is there is no funny business going on here. soros gives money to healthcare for america now, which is wierd, because the two organizations that are doing that are ray corn and sei-u. we already know about acorn. of course the president, gosh darn, it he didn't know know a thing about acorn. seiu, andy stern is on the board of soros's board 527 called act. do you remember that? here is the interesting thing, stern, with the seiu, and also advises the president an awful lot on everything, andy stern, his wife was the founder of

the blue green group which, oh, my gosh, turned in to the apollo alliance! wow! it is almost like these three are all connected. it's almost like -- it's like this. isn't that wierd? who would have thunk that? maybe should have asked the president that question. ok, what were we talking about? oh, that's right, he doesn't want a single payer universal healthcare, just another option for all americans is all he wants. does that seem clear to you, even after you did this? still a little fuzzy? by the way, there is growing suspicion that president obama and the congressional democratic majority might be doing something called the nuclear option to pass healthcare. this is where the majority in the senate cuts off any further debate. hey, hey! the debate is settled!

i have heard them say that before. that's wierd. so anyway, the debate is settled and then they cut off all debate, or filibuster by a majority vote, and that way, they don't have to worry about the 60 votes normally needed to end the filibuster. you might remember this tactic. it was kind of threatened by the republicans when they had majority. they ran something like this in 2005 when the democrats refused to give the judicial nominees a straight up or down vote, just say yes or no to these guys. the democrats were threatened. they threatened to shut the place down if you used the nuclear option. how you can do it? that's when the gang of 14 rode in. they intervened with compromise, and that way neither threat happened. gee, let's hope the democrats remember how outraged they were and don't use this against not the other party, but against the american people. a mority of whom oppose the bill. you keep watching. we have been talking on this show for a long time about the

people barack obama has surrounded himself with. look at the board again. it is incredible, isn't it? acorn, seiu and the apollo project. gee, this seems like something that somebody in the media would look into, but no. no. they got other things to do. hey, mr. president, how about those sox, huh? well, during the debates when challenged by john mccain on the radical associations that obama had at the time that we knew about, obama said this to america -- >> i tell you who i associate with. on economic policy i associate with warren buffett and former fed chairnlg paul volcker. if i'm interested in foreign policy i associate myself with my running mate, joe biden, or with dick lugar, the republican ranking member on the senate foreign relations committee, or general jim

jones, the former supreme allied commander of nato. those are the people, democrats and republicans, who have shaped my ideas, and who will be surrounding me in the white house. glenn: i hope they have their union cards, because if warren buffett is not in seiu, i haven't seen him lately. i have been looking into is surrounding the president, and at least me, i don't like what i see. there is van jones -- oh, he keeps going on about van jones who was so radical he was forced out. there are many others who still advise the president who shouldn't be anywhere near the president, from carol browner, she was a socialist, and it's wierd, because when she was nominated, the socialist thing on the website went away. she was all of a sudden wasn't a member, what are you are talking about? cass sunstein, mark lloyd is another one. john holdren, ezekiel emanuel and the life curve thing. i love zeke. you got it going on. we can weed out this excess population in no time!

then we have their own words, and we have been playing their own words and we will continue to do, that but tonight we're focusing on barack obama himself. why would barack obama associate himself with any of these people let alone some of these? watch this. >> in venezuela, shah veez really had an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution to be able to put in place things that were going to have an impact on the people of venezuela." >> in a 2007 speech, you said, and i quote, "we ought to ban hunting." >> the statement you quoted is a provocation, an offhand remark in a speech that was on another topic. >> help me with the issue of legal rights for animals. >> in terms of my own academic writings, the suggestion, which was meant as a suggestion for con tem mation, was that under state lieu -- suggestion for contemplation, which was under state lieu to

prevent cruelty to animals, and it might be that enforcement by criminal prosecutors could be supplemented by suits by private people protecting animals from violations of existing state law. glenn: well, i am so glad he only has a job now of regulation, so he takes the law as we know it and just tweaks them, judge nudges you. it is just an academic thinker, just thinking out loud. let's not forget his ties an promises to acorn and seiu or for the love of heaven, how about jeff jones. we have his fingerprints! new york apollo alliance, helped write the stimulus bill, cofounder of the terrorist group that bombed the pentagon, but why worry about that? we'll just get the job done for america. does obama know what these people have said and done in the past, some of them in the recent past like the last few months? is it even feasible to have this number of radicals, marxists, revoluntionaries, criminals near him?

i mean, one would have to ask themselves, america, maybe the president is blind to character. maybe the president is part of the problem. maybe the president is in danger, because no one is vetting these people. is the f.b.i. even showing up for work? that's for you to decide, but you'll never really be able to decide if the president only grants interviews, you know, to the people who ask him insipid shallow questions over and over and over again. hey, how about them sox, huh? president obama's favorite line when deflecting criticism is "bush, look at that guy, how much do you hate him, huh? bush had czars." yeah. some of us were yelling back then, too. i was. not about the czars, per se, because they weren't crazy people, but i have the archives to prove how much i was yelling at that guy but bush's czars didn't have the

ideology many of these people do. he will say that bush started us down the path toward socialism and he would be right by that. bush started the crazy spending. he would be right again. bush started the bailouts. he did. my question to president obama would be is this bush's third term? he is just continuing all of his policies? is there anyone out there that wanted that? anyone who voted for president obama should be asking themselves, gee, did i misunderstand the president, because i thought he believed in change, or was it that he misunderstood me? we should have seen this coming before his first day in office when he said this -- >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. >> right. one reason you might want to have an interview with the president is, oh, to give you the sense of the man. i don't feel america has really ever gotten that sense for him. people really don't know who he is. i mean, first he was j.f.k.

and then f.d.r. and then lincoln. while the media is so eagerly putting images of others in front of us to compare him with, i wonder if it's because somebody is uncomfortable with who he really is. look, i don't know, but i know you are a sum, not entirely, but you are ra sum of his experiences. his dad was a radical. his mom was from cran sass. i'm sure she was sweet, but i believe she attended a radical school and he moved to hawaii where he met frank marshall davis, an old line communist radical from chicago. he was his mentor. may i ask you a question? do you have a favorite teacher or a mentor, do you still carry the lessons they taught you around? are they part of you in any way? well, is it reasonable to say what part of frank marshall davis barack obama's mentor, does he still carry around with him? nobody will ask him. when he left frank, he went to college, but he continued.

listen to what he says about college. >> i chose my friends carefully. the more politically active black students, the foreign students, the chick can knows, the marxist professors an structural feminists an punk rock performance poets." we're getting dragged into it. i hate talking about the past, but he chose his friends carefully back then. the question is does he choose his advisors carefully now? >> the mainstream white polluters and the mainstream white environmentalists wound up collaborating to put all the poisons in the black community and the latino communities, in the poor communities. >> no more broken treaties! no more broken treaties! give them the wealth! give them the wealth! glenn: that sounds radical to most americans, redistribution of wealth, give them the wealth, but listen to our own president as he talks about the constitution. >> the supreme court never ventured into the issues of

redistribution of wealth. the tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court focused, i think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change. listen to that, america! we dismiss the community organizers that could actually put together the coalition of redisstrib beau tiff change. do you think maybe somebody should ask some questions? i mean, maybe a few of them should be answered? maybe that's -- maybe that's why the president sits down with others, because he knew they would ask him things like this. >> i want to know, who is your

pick? >> i think mathematically, they, can but until they are elected,ly make no predictions. >> thank goodness we know that. no one seems to care about the prism that the president is viewing things through. we will examine that prism, next. >> always outspoken, always on the money, and always ready to get down to business.

glenn: our exclusive hour with barack obama "in his own words." i mean, he's not here. wouldn't it be nice? before the break, i told you about some of the softballs they threw president obama yesterday, but no one asked him about van jones. no one asked about anybody else currently surrounding him in the white house. you know why they don't do that? it doesn't go on shows where they will ask him those things because then he can never make a mistake like he did with jeremiah wright. watch this. >> this is a church that i have been a member of for 20 years. this is a well-established,

typical, historic african-american church on the south side of chicago, with a wonderful set of ministries and what i have been hearing and had been hearing in church was talk about jesus, and talk about faith, and values an serving the poor. >> for some, nagging questions remain. i did know him to be and occassionally fierce critic of american domestic and foreign policy? of course. >> did you know he made these statements before the videotape occured? >> frankly, i didn't. i wasn't in church the day he made the statements. >> did you ever hear him say something controversial? awhile i sat in the church, yes. i did not hear such incendiary language myself, personallying, either in conversations with him or when i was in the pew.

i strongly disagree with many of his views, absolutely. hi heard those in the church, i would have told reverend wright that, you know, that i profoundly disagreed with him. they didn't reflect my values and didn't reflect my ideals. glenn: wouldn't it be nice to ask him which story is it? it's important today, on this channel. george stephanopoulos was one out of five interviewers with the president who even mentioned acorn. listen to this. >> how about the funding for acorn? >> frankly, it's not really something i followed closely. i didn't even know that acorn was getting a lot of federal money. >> the house voted to cut it off. >> what i know is what i saw on that video was certainly inappropriate. >> so you are not going to cut off federal funding. >> george, this is not the biggest issue facing the country r this is not something i'm paying a lot of attention to. glenn: where is the quote?

do we have the quote on acorn? i love that. oh, it's coming upater. oh, ok. that one doesn't work. what he just said yesterday doesn't work. but there was no pushback from stephanopoulos, who, by the way, who has a daily conference call with the white house chief of staff rahm emanuel. he doesn't mention acorn's massive tax fraud, the defrauding of the united states of america, offering to help bring illegals across the border who are 1r 3 and going to be sold into slavery for sex. that's kind of big. six different cities, that's pretty big, with taxpayer funded organizations, that's pretty big, too. isn't this the organization that he promised they would have a role setting his agenda at the table at his white house? >> before i even get inaugurated, during the transition, we're going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda!

we're going to be having meetings across the nation so you have influence into the next presidency of the united states of america! glenn: i think there should have been a follow-up question, george. i'm not a journalist, you are, and they wonder why we're marching on washington. hello! by the way, he is tied closely to seiu, which acorn founder wade rathke is also closely tied to. hmm. >> i have spent my entire adult life working for seiu. i'm not a newcomer to this! i didn't just suddenly discover seiu. glenn: remember that. he will spend his whole life with seiu. just remember that. then there is americorps, or is it americorps? i'm not really sure what the president is describe here. >> we cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we set. we have got to have a civilian

national security force that is just as strong, just as well funded. >> really? wow. why do we need that? i asked that question before and we never got an answer to that. maybe somebody else will ask that question. i am counting on the mainstream media to ask those questions. by the way, here is the quote that i was looking for. this is from sam gran felton, president obama's campaign blog, he said this about acorn in november, 2007. ready? "i've been fighting alongside acorn on issues you care about my entire career. even before i was elected official, when i ran project vote, voter registration drive in illinois, acorn was smack dab in the middle of it. we appreciate your work." hmm. yeah, he's not really paying attention, because he doesn't have any close ties there, i'm

sure. look, why am i asking these questions? is it a hidden agenda? or is the agenda something you can get behind yourself? we need to know what the agenda is and who is actually behind it.

>> president obama arrived in new york city a short while ago and just finished taping

yet another interview, this time with david letterman. the president will remain in the big apple most of the week including his debut at a meeting meeting at the u.n. general assembly. a move by the justice department on acorn. the inspector general agreed to investigate whether the justice department provided federal funds to acorn through its grant program. a colorado judge today ordered an afghan-born man accused in a terror plot in the u.s. to be held before the hearing thursday. >> coming up, what is the real assessment of the war in afghanistan, and is the general on the ground being prevented from officially asking for more troops? plus, brit hume will be here with analysis. join me in 26 minutes for "special report," but now, back to glenn beck.

glenn: just listening to bret there, i beg the people in washington, please, dear god, don't politicize this any more than it already has been. pull them out. get them home. if you're not going to fight to win. do what the generals on the ground want or pull them home. all right. so what are we doing this for tonight? not having a hidden agenda, that's not what this is about. even president obama knows this is not about hidden agendas. >> president jimmy carter saying most, not just a little, but most of this republican opposition against you is motivated by racism. do you agree with that? >> no. glenn: thank you. you know, i love my country, and you love your country. i don't care if you agree with me or disagree. i don't care if you're republican, democrat or independent or something else. i don't know what else is left, but you love your country. you know that our country has some flaws. you knew it when president

bush was president. i don't care what party you were in. but you didn't want the whole system changed, did you? >> we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america! glenn: i'm haunted by that quote from president obama that we played a few minutes ago where he talked about, you know, we don't pay attention to the community groups, and the community organizing group s that can cobble together the coalitions that will bring us the redistribution of wealth. i think we are looking at that now. look at what has happened in the last 7 months. the u.s. government has taken over and is running giant corporations. we're a trillion dollars deeper into debt, $100 billion every single, what is it, five weeks? we're talking about transforming the best healthcare system in the world now. it's flawed, yes, but it's still the best.

you know that can't be done with a deficit neutral basis. what are we kidding ourselves for? conservative estimates put the cost in the trillions. they're even talking about jam ming cap and trade down our throats and sending our energy bills skyrocketing, in his own words. >> under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. glenn: joe wilson last week said the president is lying about the whole immigration thing and the healthcare. well, just last week, he's raised the possibility of amnesty and citizenship for the 20 million people who are already here illegally now. >> if someone is here illegally, they won't be covered under this plan. that is a commitment i'm making, but i also want to make this clear, even though i don't believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, i also don't believe we can ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken. this debate underscores the necessity of passing

comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all! glenn: so he was right! joe wilson was rye lying. no illegal immigrants will get healthcare. we will just make them all legal. problem solved. america is never going to be the same if president obama is able to bring these things to pass. now, you may be for them. you may be against them. either way, you better get up off the couch, because they will fundamentally transform america, and you know what? we have a lot of problems in this country, and some things do need to change -- corruption, responsibility, accountability, healthcare, healthcare is one of them, but i think the last thing it needs is to be run by the government and the unions. what are you nuts? do you think you're number now? wait until they have control. you think the insurance company gives you the runaround when you call? when the insurance company is the government, how do you think that is going to work out for you?

i don't think anybody believes the president when he tells you, oh, we have problems, doctors are removing tonsils and they don't have to do that. they're cutting off the feet of diabetes patients. if this were a movie, you would never believe that! the president is treating us like morons and the problem with healthcare is that the system treats us like morons and not like human beings. we're numbers. the government is going to make that better? the president looks at community organizing and unions as the solution, but i believe americans understand the solution is the individual americans. obama and those in congress don't trust your church, your faith, but americans trust their church over the weasels in government. our politicians treat our military with contempt. did you hear what bret just said? americans trust our military over the politicians. you see, wouldn't it be nice to have somebody sit down one

on one with the president and lling him, mr. president, these policies don't make sense, you could explain them to me in a way where there is no double-talk or rhetoric? mr. president, you have got to stop listening to the media, to celebrities and the elite, because i got news for you, it wasn't the farmers that got us into this mess. it's the media, the celebrities and the elite! we have more trust in each other, the american people, than the people we have elected to represent us have in us. but there is one giant pink elephant in the room, and nobody yesterday really wanted to talk about it. you know what it is, right? add.

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glenn: yesterday the sunday morning talk shows, if you watched, the president gave the same old answers to the same old questions. we just put them all together. >> that's really all you heard was blah blah blah blah. we looked. these are 9 same exact answers, just a little out of order. out of all the interviewers only abc news asked about acorn, i'm not sure about univision, and john is an author of stealing elections and how voter fraud threatens our democracy" play his answer

here on acorn. >> how about the funding for acorn? >> frankly, it's not really something i follow closely. i didn't even know that acorn was getting a whole lot of federal money. >> the house voted to cut it off. >> what i saw on that video was certainly inappropriate. >> so you're not committed to cutting off the federal funding? >> george this, is not the biggest issue facing the country. it is not something i'm paying a lot of attention to. >> he didn't know they were getting money? >> well, it is curious because acorn has gotten federal funding throughout its existence and barack obama was a trainer for them in their chicago seminars. he was their lawyer. i suspect at some point acorn paid him. i suspect some of that was probably federal funds. glenn: what about the $827,000 during the election, do you remember that? >> barack obama's campaign spent over $800,000 with an acorn affiliate to get out the vote, you know, voter

registration. we all know about acorn and voter registration. the money was categorized and reported for the federal election commission as for staging and lighting as though they were key grips. glenn: can they do that? >> no. they corrected themselves when they were caught by a pittsburgh paper. the obama campaign was not particularly eager to have people know that they were hiring an acorn affiliate for voter registration. glenn: why do you think the president was playing dumb here and saying i'm not even following this, and i don't even know? >> it's strange, becau throughout his career, he has been proud of acorn. he has talked about how much he learned as a community organizer from groups like acorn. he has addressed acorn. he said he was proud lie fighting with him. gloits let me get the quote. "i have been fighting al alongside acorn for issues you care about, even before i was a public official, acorn was smack dab in the middle of it and we appreciate your work." he knows who they have been

and are. >> during that campaign, when he got into the scandal, he said we got into some trouble but we're handling our own voter registration. he knew all about acorn. now he knows nothing about acorn. it makes me think there might be something else there. glenn: maybe something else there? >> all i know is that he is retreating from acorn faster than a speeding bullet. glenn: well, who wouldn't? i mean, really, who wouldn't? >> except it's interesting. the tapes he referred to, he referred to the conduct as inappropriate. i think anyone would have used a stronger word. glenn: he didn't express outrage. when acorn says they fired everybody there in those tapes, is that true? have they fired the people in new york? >> suspended some of them, fired others. >> who was suspended? >> do you know which tapes they were that those people were suspended? do you have to have -- like what kind of seminar do you go to when you're like, no?

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glenn: hey, as we are taken care of by the progressive elite, i figure who is going to be taking care of healthcare in the coming years? those people in school now in berkeley, california. so we went out to berkeley, california to find out, you know, the liberal future of

america, how well is that going to work out for us? here he is. >> who is your favorite united states president and why? >> favorite united states president -- how many questions do you have? >> well just a couple couple. >> abraham lincoln. >> abe lincoln. >> abe lincoln was easily the most popular. naming the party of the old dude with the bearded hat, a little more daunting. >> which party did abe lincoln belong to? >> the wigs. >> i'll say -- yeah, i'm not sure. >> back then, they were republicans, but nominally a

republican. >> well, she's basically right. it was a subjective question, so we decided to ask a a more straightforward one. >> who do you think caused the great depression? >> oh, that's an interesting question. what caused the great depression? wow. um -- >> the great depression? i don't know. i guess, like the stock market crashed. the great depression? >> it was like black friday, right? >> it was a black day. glenn: so nobody answered correctly with the federal reserve, but we thought we would let them take a stab at how it was fixed. >> f.d.r. and his group.

they did public works or his administration or something like that. >> f.d.r.? >> i don't think i know. >> gee, you can't even give these folks the right answer. in all fairness, that stuff happened a long time ago. let's try something a little more current. >> some people think that the assault weapon ban act is good because it bans machine guns here on the streets. what do you think? >> i don't like machine guns. i'm really against people using guns and being able to own guns. >> nobody wants an semiautomatic machine gun. >> yeah, i mean, in terms of how well it works, i'm sure there's russian mafia and some chinese guys have machine guns but in terms of people having machine guns, yes. >> the second amendment was written in a very different time socially. it was a time when people lived mostly rural lives and

it was also a time after a huge rebellion against the unjust government, so people were -- >> what do you mean by "unjust"? >> i use quotation marks because it is open to interpretation, but i would say yeah, there is some pressures put on the american people that maybe were unjustified busy also think that those revoluntionary people in american history were maybe blowing those issues up a little more. >> it's looking more and more like universities are not even capable of protecting you from idiocy, but it may actually encourage it. amongst all of this, there was one fine example, one glimmer of hope. >> who is your favorite president and why? >> i would have to say benjamin franklin. because he's the one that was our finest president, right?

>> i yes, benjamin franklin was our finest president, the one with the book. glenn: i think we're doomed. arguing with idiots, in bookstores everywhere tomorrow. good god, get it, please!

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