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tuav thci usve n suyo rand tuswne swta™ [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jon: good morning. an urgent warning for mass transit systems across the nation. homeland security setting out what it calls -- sending out what it calls and notes to be on the lookout for possible terror activity. the notes are going up to police departments and other agencies around the country. they are not being called bulletins, because they do not
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relate to any specific threat. let's take you out to raymond kelly, police commissioner of new york city. >> you talk about stadiums, hotels, and entertainment complexes as well as transport. is there something to be alarmed about? >> no. in the city -- in this city, we do more than any other city to protect ourselves. there is no indication of any threat in those areas you mentioned. >> [inaudible] >> no. i think it is important to underscore the fact that there is a lot of classified information in this investigation. the only thing i am authorized to talk about is the criminal complaint filed in denver on sunday. i do not know where other people are getting the authority to
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speak on this investigation. that is the only issue i can discuss. >> [inaudible] >> you are going to have to ask, and security. -- you are going to have to ask homeland security. there is no specific information that would give concern for the areas mentioned, other than the fact that in a post-9/11 world, we are concerned about a lot of things. we do more on this than any other city anywhere. >> [inaudible] >> we have not engaged in any different practices or increased our security.
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we employ over 1000 police officers every day to protect this city from a terrorist threat. we have not increased that number. i will put it that way. >> [inaudible] are the bordering on alarmist? >> i am not going to characterize them. they put up those alerts, and obviously they think that is helpful. as i said, every day we are up to a level that i think exceeds any other city i am aware of. >> there is nothing specific going on? >> that is correct. >> [inaudible] >> this investigation is continuing. in many ways, this investigation has just begun.
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jon: that is raymond kelly of the new york police department talking about notes issued by homeland security that warned agencies -- worn -- warn agencies nationwide to be alert. the call them notes instead of warnings, because there is no specific threat of which they are aware, but they are on high alert. david lee miller is live in midtown manhattan at penn station. what else can you tell us about these notes? >> again, we want to underscore that there is no specific threat, and penn station would be an area that law-enforcement would be concerned about. here is an amtrak police officer with a bomb-sniffing dogs -- dog inside this building.
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there are national guardsmen here, and they tell me that nothing special is taking place today. this is a building that 24-7 has a heavy law-enforcement presence. but on the minds of many people is the fact that it was transit sites targeted in london and madrid, and even though the fbi is not spelling out that the notes have anything specific regarding a terrorist threat, on the minds of many, those have been al qaeda targets in the past. they want to make sure they are not targets in the future. jon: law enforcement officers are saying that there is speculation that najibullah zazi, who was arrested in denver, may have been planning printed attacks. what else are they looking at?
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>> they're issuing notes about self storage lockers. when the raids took place last week in queens of terror suspects, authorities found backpacks. they have been used in the past by terrorists to blow up transit sites, and there is concern that they may be trying to manufacture a chemical concoction to put in the backpacks. so now they're looking at storage facilities, specifically in queens, new york, not far from where the raids took place. one storage facility told us that the feds had been there and nothing was found. there are also reports that authorities are on the lookout for suspicious activity at places that sell chemicals or fertilizer, which can be used to make a bomb. they're looking for individuals that might be paying cash for those compents.
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jon: david lee miller, live at penn station in midtown manhattan. thank you, david. jane: in and around atlanta, highways and schools are closed this hour. entire neighborhoods, even roller-coastered at an amusement park are under water -- even rollercoasters at an amusement park are underwater. 115-year-old boy's body was discovered. it is hard to believe that a year ago we were talking about an extreme drought there. >> exactly right. we were standing in a dry lake bed talking about how badly people needed the rain. now, people around here are saying they do not want any more. i talked to the homeowners earlier.
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they said that they looked out the window and saw water rising, but it did not hit them until that afternoon when the rain did not stop and water was still coming up. they moved everything to the second floor of their house and got their families out of here. now they are waiting for things to proceed so they can see what they have left -- they're waiting for the water to recede so they can see what they have left. you can actually see this neighborhood from some aerial footage and see how bad it was. we are going to show you before pictures a little later on. jane: 8 people have now died in these floods. i know that you have information about rescues in which people have been saved.
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>> there have been quite a few rescues. in this neighborhood, there were folks making sure that families had gotten out of their homes. that was the case all over georgia as rivers increased and normally quiet streams started rising and the water was raging. we're hearing heartbreaking stories. one family was in the process of being rescued, and a two-year- old boy was ripped from the arms of his family and swept away. he did not make it. heartbreaking stories as this goes on, and the clean-up will take quite a while. there are still down power lines -- downed power lines. jane: thank you. jon: senator robert byrd apparently fell in his home and he is in the hospital right now. he took a tumble this morning, and fire trucks and emergency
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vehicles were dispatched to him. the senator was transported to the hospital, we understand. doctors are saying that his condition is not serious and there will likely not even be an admission of the man who is the nation's longest serving senator, first elected in 1958. senator robert byrd, the oldest senator, the longest-serving, and the oldest member of congress in either house at age 81 apparently took a tumble at his home this morning and is at a hospital right now. we will keep an eye on it. he has not been in the senate for much of the year because of health concerns. jane: on wall street, the dow is up 20 points or so. jenna has some news on mcdonald's and some competition. where is it from? >> an unlikely place. their stock is down a bit today,
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although general markets are higher. mcdonald's is the largest fast- food chain, but subway is not far behind. they are opening of 40 stores a week and slowly gaining on mcdonald's. next month, they could overtake mcdonald's as far as the amount of stores in the world, more than 33,000. as far as sales, mcdonald's burgers and fries are still the big sellers. subway cannot necessarily compete with mcdonald's in terms of profits, but there was an interesting shift. there was a top a year ago about the government bailing out banks. now we are going to talk about the bank's bailing out the government. a potentially interesting situation with financial officials. i will tell you about that in a bit. jon: troops in afghanistan are fighting the taliban.
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jane: a jam-packed day for the president today. he has already made remarks of the climate change summit. he talks to the prime minister of israel, and benjamin netanyahu -- benjamin netanyahu. in an hour, he will hold a meeting with two leaders. what are the expectations when he sits down with those leaders at this day and time? >> robert gibbs went out of his way to set the barlow, sang there are no grand expectations to come out of this meeting. there is just hard work needed to reach peace. but a lot of people would say that the fact they are all sitting down in new york is a
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good sign. these are tense times between israel and palestine, with a lot of anxiety and not a lot of talking at the table. a lot of people welcome them sitting down with obama as a good sign. jane: if we got an announcement, would be welcomed as good news here and in the middle east -- would it be welcomed as good news here and in the middle east? >> we will all be listening for any indication that there may be some deals made and an opportunity for further talks to happen. jane: i want to ask you about the president's remarks this morning about climate change. how were his comments received? >> very well. he had a warm reception at the united nations. a lot of people interested in
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climate change would welcome the urgency in his voice. it is something on the agenda. let's take a listen. >> we understand the gravity of the common threat. we are determined to act. we will meet our responsibility to future generations. >> critics would say you also need booming economies like china and india on board, so it will be interesting to see if they sign on to a climate change agreement. jon: afghanistan is still stuck in the eighth century in many ways, so you might wonder, where does the taliban get high-tech weapons to kill our soldiers? guess what? there is troubling evidence that iran's revolutionary guards are providing the taliban with training and weapons, including rockets and bombs designed to
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penetrate our soldiers armor -- our troops' armor. >> we have obtained testimony from the director of national intelligence. here is what he said. this follows on to what we reported a couple of weeks ago, that u.s. forces in afghanistan have identified some iranian weapons. they found a stash of weapons that they traced back to iran. jon: i know mcchrystal has taken a look at this issue.
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what does he say? >> he thinks iranian involvement in afghanistan is ambiguous. it may now pose a short-term threat, but it could pose a long-term threat. here's what he says. so again, a warning that iran is planning to play a role out there, but the role is somewhat ambiguous at this point time, according to the general -- at this point in time, according to the general. jane: digging continues today at the home of phillip garrido, who is accused of kidnapping and holding jaycee dugard for 18 years. at least one bone fragment was
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>> we want to make you aware of something going on right now in the detroit suburbs. a parking lot outside a public library where two people have been found shot. they are a man and woman who authorities say are married to each other. authorities say that there was a witness to the man shooting the female and turning the gun on
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himself. this is in canton, mich., a suburb of detroit. sources in the area say that the couple were fighting through the weekend, and officers had already been called to their home. so there had been domestic disturbances and calls made to their home. but this took place in a public place, outside of the parking lot in canton, michigan this morning. as we learn more, we will bring it to you. jane: a whole lot is happening this hour in the bottle -- battle to reform health care. max baucus' plan is a blueprint for what could happen in the country. but now it is time to add amendments come up hundreds of them. what will that do to the cost? kirsten powers and monica
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crowley are here. there is a lot of criticism from democrats on this plan. the requirement that you have to get health insurance, how much that would cost, how it would hit middle-class families. senator baucus said this morning that he would make it more affordable and put more subsidies in. he has got to get something that passes. is this going to be it? >> they are talking about the trigger, doing things that will make democrats happy and republicans happy, and i do not envy his job. i'm very skeptical that they can come up with something to please everybody. if you are pleasing democrats, if you are not pleasing republicans, and vice versa. so if he gives up on democrats, what happens with republicans? jane: are you saying we will not see reform? >> i have always been under the impression there will be something we call reform.
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i do not think it will be anything close to what the obama administration set out to have. i am very skeptical about republicans supporting anything. there is no political impetus for them to do it. jane: everyone has been saying all along that it comes down to affordability. he is specifically talking aut allowing middle-class families to afford it, but also, can we as a country afforded -- afford it? how are we going to pay for this? >> that is the eternal question in this whole debate. how are we going to pay for it? on the question of affordability, this is what he is trying to remake -- he is trying to make the bill with subsidies, because olympia snowe's main concern is the
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cost. this bill has a mandate in it, meaning you are mandated to buy health insurance, and if you do not, you are going to be fined, which is essentially a tax. the bottom line is, how are we going to pay for it? there are no answers as of now. jane: i want to take a look at this poll that scott rasmussen just released. 60% say that neither party has political leaders who understand what is needed. that is pretty depressing. >> yes. it is depressing for democrats, because they have all of the votes to control the white house, there filibuster-proof -- they are filibuster-proof. i think it is more bad news for them than republicans. but the republicans have put out a clear alternative to what the democrats want to do, and they
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do not seem to be gaining traction, either. both parties have a challenge cut out for them. jane: talking about manufactured anchor, 66% of people said that they are angry at the federal government. >> that is not surprising. most people in the country feel that spending is out of control, and i think that they recognize that that happened under both the bush an obama administrations. in terms of who it hurts more in terms of democrats and republicans, i think politically, it hurts democrats more because they are in power. i think it is a sad commentary, in general, for both parties, but the party in power is always the one that will suffer the most when the country is feeling this way. jon: deadly flooding in the
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southeast. entire communities are under water right now. a live update from the weather center is next. plus, the organization that insures your money might need a bailout of its own. geatmagi reen f a..
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jane: we want to go back to the deadly flooding we are watching in the southeast. parts of georgia, tennessee, and
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other areas in the southeast are under warnings. metro atlanta is the hardest hit area. eight people are confirmed dead. the governor of georgia is asking the president for a federal disaster declaration. we are here to learn what they can expect weather wise. >> we're still looking at isolated showers for the next several days. you can see northern georgia, atlanta, that is really what is taking the brunt of these storms that have been passing by, with over 20 inches of rain. we still have a few more inches in us. it is not really steady rain. today, the steadier, heavier rain will stay to the west. to atlanta and northern parts of georgia. you cannot rule out isolated
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downpours to wrap the afternoon that could drop 1 inch or 2 inches -- downpours throughout the afternoon that could drop 1 inch or 2 inches. and there is a chance of scattered showers or thunderstorms for the next couple of days. this weather pattern is on hold, and it could bring an additional 3 inches to 5 inches that could only aggravate the problems. jon: the president is meeting with heads of state in new york city for the united nations general assembly meeting. he is also making remarks at a climate summit. the president promises that the u.s. will be a serious partner in combating global warming. >> we cannot allow the old divisions that characterized the climate debate for so many years to block our progress. yes, the developed nation that
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caused much damage to our environment still has responsibility, and that includes the united states. jon: joining us is a political analyst -- is political analyst brit hume. the climate change bill from june is bottled up in the senate and is going nowhere. is that something that obama is pointing to? >> he did, and my sense is it will be very difficult to pass the bill in anything like its current form. this is an issue, once again, where the president has this major problem, which is that on the day he was elected, a poll of 1000 voters found that 44% of them thought the economy was the biggest problem, and whatever was in second place was 14% down
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to 5% for issues like health care and so on. and yet, he has acted first on some of these other sues. obviously, there was a stimulus bill passed. but the economy is still the first job, and the president is pushing these other items. they are all, understandably, in trouble. jon: that applies to his agenda at the united nations. he is meeting with the israelis, he is meeting with palestinians. he is doing a little bit of everything today. >> he is, and honestly, the foreign-policy side of his presidency is faced with the same set of challenges that have faced administration is going back as far as either one of us can remember -- that have faced administrations going back as far as either one of us can
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remember. there is tension on the iranian question, but also on the issue of settlements in the west bank and elsewhere that the israelis are moving forward with. so all of this sounds strikingly familiar, and it is no accident. these are the same issues that every president has struggled with. jon: 8 research poll found that 71% of the people in various countries overseas view him positively, much higher than the view they held a former president bush. and yet, progress in terms of what the united states would like to see with the iranian nuclear program, that kind of thing, that does not seem to be
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forthcoming. >> it has not yet. major achievements in foreign policy tends to occupy every president from the beginning to the end of their administration. we remember bill clinton at the end of his administration trying and nearly succeeding to have a major peace deal between israel and the palestinians, only to have arafat turned his back at the last minute -- turn his back at the last minute. alright jon:. -- jon: all right. brit hume, our senior foreign affairs analyst. jane: how about this for a switch -- banks have a plan to
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bail out your government. specifically, the fdic, which insures our deposits. general, what is going on? >> the ftse -- fdic is intended to ensure confidence in the banking system, insuring our deposits up to $250,000 per bank. right now, there are 4.8 trillion dollars of deposits in the country, and the fdic is set aside billions in the case of more bank failures. they have an actual cash balance of $10 billion. so the big question is, what happens if there is more big bank failure? our deposit safe? the fdic says yes, and overtime, they have always in short our
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deposits. -- over time, they have always insured our deposits. sheila boehner is supposedly -- sheila baier is talking to timothy geithner. she wants to try every effort to avoid borrowing money, because her relationship with tim geithner is not a good one. i ask for a response from the fdic -- i asked for a response from the fdic and did not get one. but it is just a question about the future. what happens if we get another wave in this crisis?
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jon: he was a master of the political process on capitol hill, but can you dance? it is a side of former house majority leader tom delay that few have ever seen. he is showing off his wild side on the season premiere of "dancing with the stars," achieving a high score. he says that he was not prepared to get in touch with his feminine side. he finds out tomorrow night if he lives to dance and other day. -- if he lives to dance another day. jane: we are continuing to see what is unfolding with these terror notes that homeland security have issued. it has been called the most
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dangerous situation since 9/11. we have new details on that and how this is security threat may be tied and for all of us, coming up. also, we are watching flooding into a plant area. the death toll from the flooding in the southeast stance at age. -- stands at eight. w i'm driving off the lot in a used sub-compact. ♪ ♪ f-r-e-e, that spells free credit report dot com, baby. ♪
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are pressed against this guy.
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five little ones killed and their mom. police think they have their suspects. by the way, he had bought a one- way ticket with no plans to come back. jane: police departments all across the country are being reminded to remain vigilant for potential terrorist activity. notes have been issued by the department of homeland security, referencing possible threats to transit systems, sports arenas, and hotels. this all comes as we have seen arrests in new york and colorado this week related to a possible bomb threat in new york city. we have an official from homeland security here. we heard from the nypd commissioner at the top of the hour, and he was careful to say there was no specific threat.
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something is going on. what is it? >> there's obviously a heightened sense of alarm about these open-access facilities, and the story about the gentleman who was arrested is pretty fishy. i think americans have to be used to the fact that law enforcement will jump in way ahead of the curve here. sometimes, the evidence is going to be sketchy. but they definitely want to get in before these people have a chance to move on a target. jane: you are talking about najibullah zazi, arrested in colorado with his father. there is also a religious leader in new york who has been arrested. they are all charged at the moment with lying to authorities, nothing related to terrorism. when you put the pieces together, do you look at these three men -- could they have been the real deal, working on something?
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>> the circumstantial evidence we have received so far leads you to believe that there is something real here. but again, there are explanations for things that look fishy from the start, and we will have to see how the court process plays out. i thank the key is that we have good cooperation between fbi, homeland security, and municipal folks on the ground. they are not going to wait. we have done a great job making it harder for people to get into the country, but time will tell about this particular plot. i think they're doing the right thing by getting out early and reminding americans that we have inherently vulnerable facilities in an open society like america. jane: one danger is that critics come out and say it was not an operational plan, just an aberrational -- and aspirational -- an aspirational plan.
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>> i rather -- i would rather they jump in early them late. -- i would rather they jump in early than late. the last thing that you want is to jump into late when things are operational. that is one of the lessons of 9/11, that we need to get in ahead of time and worry about the facts later if there is any evidence of a major plot under way. jane: thank you for your thoughts. jon: a crooked as a holy place to carry out an unholy act. bicycle, i've missed you.
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jane: brooke willberger's remains have finally been found. she was a student at byu who disappeared in 2004. she was standing outside of the building a sister managed in corvallis, ore., when she disappeared. her murder decided to accept a plea deal, and finally told investigators that he hit her body in the woods in oregon. her mother spoke out after the body was found. take a listen. >> it might be hard for you to understand that at this time we feel gratitude, even to mr. courtney, that he could see fit to tell us where he left barack -- brooke. and for our family, we are thankful justice was served and he will not have the opportunity for parole.
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jane: the death penalty was taken off the table as a result of the plea bargain. jon: president obama is meeting with world leaders in new york city today. many of those countries will receive billions of dollars in aid from the united states. do you know what that money is intended for? wait until you hear. william is tracking vortexes live in los angeles -- william is tracking your taxes live in los angeles. >> for the americans who are struggling to make ends meet, this is not the document to see. it is where your tax money goes overseas, from promoting energy independence in the ukraine to put in latin american students through college. this year, the state department
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budget provides millions to oil- rich kingdom stripping in money -- dripping in dough. are we buying peace in the middle east? the u.s. gives money to israel for security, as well as jordan and lebanon. they also give aid to the palestinian authority, which does not even represent government in gaza. >> i do not think we are creating a security. i think we are subsidizing army for ap tate of -- a putative palestinian state. there is 20 million for political prisoners in castro's cuba. $6 million to promote a civil society in venezuela. $26 million for police in bolivia, and $56 million to
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support human rights in russia. >> we still cannot point to our relationship between foreign aid and the right kind of policies and institutions creating prosperity. >> the real question is, does it work? the inspector general look at the $38 million we spent on human rights in columbia, and they found that the programs do not work. the money we spend to improve society in honduras -- all of the people that we train will be gone after the november elections. there are numerous examples. in the middle east and overseas, about $3 billion in aid. jon: great. thank you. jane: police are looking for a guy caught on video at church violating one of the 10 commandments, "thou shalt not
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steal." he could not find the offering, so he took the pastor's pursed right from her office. laura cunningham says that she forgives him, but she still wants him brought to justice. jon: we are monitoring live pictures of digging at the home of phillip garrido, accused of kidnapping and holding jaycee dugard captive for 18 years. specially-trained dogs are trying to alert authorities to cadavers' buried there. we are continuing to watch what is going on there. we will give you alerts as they come about.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jon: i am jon scott.
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jane: why is homeland security asking police departments in this country to pay special attention to stadiums, hotels, and storage facilities? jane: president obama has packed his schedules with committee meetings. what can he expect to accomplish? jane: on the u.s.-mexico border, a meeting of the minds to fight drugs and violence. is legalizing drugs on the table? jon: first, this weather alert. devastating floods in the southeast. take a look at this video. the death toll stands at eight after rescuers recently discovered the body of a 15- year-old boy in georgia. these are pictures from the six flags amusement park near atlanta. they have received 20 inches of rain since friday, washing out roads, bridges, and interstates.
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it is also causing headaches in tennessee and other places. georgia governor sonny perdue has declared a state of emergency in several counties to route the state. it is torn to be bad for a while. -- is going to be bad for a while. >> the heaviest rain will stay to the west, through the lower mississippi valley. here is what we can expect over the next 48 hours. northern georgia is where we're seeing are flooding pictures coming out of -- that is the hardest hit in the state. just in the northwest pocket, we could see an additional 1 inch to 2 inches. that does not mean we can rule out any downpours. that could further aggravate this system. you can see much of the heavier showers are sitting out west,
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and i will be the case for several days. but on the radar we see a few showers up in the western pocket, as expected. we are not out of the woods yet, because the forecast for the next several days, taking us into monday, actually, is going to keep a shower chance in there through the weekend. they could have an additional 3 inches to 5 inches. not everyone will get it, but it could be possible. it is still a system to watch. jane? jane: thank you. jon: in new york city, world leaders are focusing on climate change as negotiations over a global agreement have hit a wall. earlier, president obama urged international leaders to address
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an issue that affects everyone before it is too late. >> the security and stability of each nation and all people, our prosperity, our health, and our safety are in jeopardy. and the time that we had to reverse this is running out. jon: the climate change summit is just one big event on the president's agenda today. later this afternoon, he will meet china's president 41 on one talk -- for a one-on-one talk. jane: a federal investigation into terror plot has led to the arrest of three suspects in new york and denver. now, homeland security is issuing notes to authorities about threats to transit systems and other facilities. raymond kelly from the new york police department addressed the
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press a short while ago. >> there is no specific information that would give concern for those areas, other than the fact that in a post- 9/11 world, we are more concerned about a lot of things. jane: steve is in washington, watching this unfold today. what is homeland security saying? >> they have sent out 3 notes in the past several days. friday, they put one out reminding law-enforcement to be vigilant in guarding railways. they talked about homemade bombs carried in backpacks. then yesterday, they put out two more notes, mentioning arenas, ballparks, and hotels. one of them said that some storage facilities can be a place where homemade bombs are cranked out. they are saying that americans should always remain vigilant and report suspicious activities to authorities.
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jane: this comes after the arrest of najibullah zazi his father in denver and other religious leader in new york. i assume it is all related? >> not specifically. recent news brings to light u.s. security threats that are well known, and law-enforcement is always looking out for this kind of thing. the notes are not intended for the media. they are meant to give law enforcement advice. jane: what have they learned from what we have seen in the past in other places? >> they know some of the methods that the terrorists do use, and that is what these warnings are all about. the warning about backpacks, of course. that harkens back to 2004 in madrid and 2005 in london, where trains were attacked by bomb- toting terrorists.
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as for storage units, authorities worry that these could be used as makeshift labs where terrorists could get together and makes bomb ingredients together before a terrorist attack -- mix bomb ingredients together before an attack. jon: a brinks employee shot in florida. harris faulkner has the news. >> here is something odd. this is near the fort lauderdale international airport. it is at the end of one of the run has -- runways. the shooting victim is now being transported to a medical center. details on this story are coming up, because this is just breaking. you can tell by the wild nature of these live pictures that the scene is very, very active right now. they think that they might have
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located a car that was used in the robbery of that guard. as i learn more, i will bring it to you. more to come, i am sure. back to you guys. jon: there is no bigger issue on capitol hill right now than you and your health care and how it will be dispensed and paid for in the future. right now, members of the full finance committee are going over the details of the baucus health care plan. more than 500 amendments have already been proposed for what he brought out. carl, we know that the republicans are not necessarily on board with this thing yet. what about democrats? >> they are not on board, either.
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it is just a start, and there is a lot of work to be done. 564 amendments are there, and some are what they call in the language up here on capitol hill, designed to get it -- gut it. there are days worth of amendments to work out. kent conrad is a moderate and a south dakota resident, and he says he has been very much an advocate for the co-op plan instead of a government auction, but even he is not there yet. here is a little bit from kent conrad. >> there is no coverage for illegal immigrants, no death panels, no federal funding for abortion services. this is a mainstream proposal.
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>> that is just a start. conrad went on to say that he has amendments he once considered, and all democrats have them. in some cases, they would prefer the public option instead of the co-op. jon: what happens to the gang of six? -- what happened to the gang of six? >> republicans say that they also want health care, but not if it means massive tax increases. that is why chuck grassley pulled his punches, as well. here is the iowa republican. >> there are a lot of things i can support in this package, but there are also a lot of very significant unresolved issues and provisions i do not support. >> it is a very tense hearing
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underway right now as they draw their alliance -- their lines. liberal democrats say absolutely no to anything short of a government public option. and then in the middle, you have moderates who think that portability needs to be improved and an impact to the deficit needs to get resolved. here is what is going to be the critical point that we have to watch in days and weeks ahead. democrats have hinted that they will not request or demand a true analysis and study by the nonprofit congressional budget office. if they do not provide that, republicans and moderates will not be able to work with them. jon: carl cameron in washington. coming up, richard burr. jane: trials have been delayed
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jon: a military judge agrees to another delay in the trial of five guantanamo bay detainees, including alleged 9/11 mastermind khalid sheikh mohammed. this comes months after the president announced that he will close the detention center by the end of january. guess what? it is still open. catherine herridge is live there for us. >> all you have to do is see that the obama administration is under increasing pressure to meet the deadline of january 2010. let's take a look at the first graphic. in january this year, the
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president announced he would close the prison and we had 241 detainees here. eight months later, we have 225, and of that 16, 15 have been transferred out, and one was a suicide. so just 7% of the detainees in the military prison have been dealt with. let's look at the second graphic, because you can see an important figure. 78 people are slated for release. that means there are -- there is not enough evidence. so far, less than a dozen nations have offered to take the people. four chinese muslims were taken to bermuda. the biggest issue here is that there are 100 yemeni
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detainee's, and most of them and up being clear -- and up being cleared, and if they do go to prison, they end up escaping. robert gibbs insists that it is going to be closed. >> the president intends to keep his commitment to close guantanamo in a year. i'm not suggesting that they will stay in guantanamo. >> the two key departments here are the justice and defense departments. they will make the ultimate decision on the remaining detainees. publicly, they say they will meet the deadline, but privately there are people who have doubts about wrapping this whole thing up in just four months' time. jon: catherine herridge, thanks.
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jane: president obama wants more time to decide about what to do about afghanistan, but his general wants more troops. what does that mean for our security at home?
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jane: tension over the future of our battle and afghanistan. the pentagon is now telling top commander mcchrystal to delay submitting a request for additional troops. this is a sign that the white house may be rethinking their strategy against the taliban and al qaeda, and it comes as the president faces political pressure from voters. according to a new poll, 46% of those surveyed support the
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war. 41% support sending additional troops, and 50% opposed. major-general bob scales is with us. can you clear up this confusion? in the spring, the president said we have got a strategy and i am putting general mcchrystal there to execute it because he is an expert. and if the taliban go unchallenged there, they will create a base for terrorist to want to kill as many of our people as they possibly can read what has changed? >> a couple of things. the situation has gotten much worse. a disputed election, a research and taliban that is becoming more and more -- a resurgence of the taliban that is becoming more and more prominent in the country -- the countryside.
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more troops would create a strain on the armed forces were they to be sent. and the decision needs to be made soon for them to be put in afghanistan to fight for the campaign season, which begins in march and early april. jane: do you and general mcchrystal think that more troops will guarantee our safety at home? >> war is the most unpredictable of all human endeavors. nobody knows for sure. but what we know for sure is this -- and less troop levels are increased soon, the situation in afghanistan will only get worse over time. the taliban has the initiative, and they are gaining control of the countryside and some cities. enough forces must be present to train the afghan army and increase their size and effectiveness, and soldiers must be placed in the countryside to
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regain control of taliban territory. jane: can general mcchrystal say no? >> i do not think so. i'm hearing about a compromise. mcchrystal lost 30,000 or 40,000, and i think the president will send a certain amount, perhaps around 20,000, and we will have to see how it shapes up. the decision will have to be made soon if the number that is decided on will be in place and ready to fight at the beginning of the spring campaign season. jane: major-general bob scales. thanks. jon: much of this atlanta amusement park is now submerged. the roller coasters have turned into flume rides. at least eight people have died in all of this. the fight to replace arnold
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jon: here is what is happening now. gov. sonny perdue is asking president obama to declare parts of georgia a federal a disaster -- federal disaster area. all of the bridges over the
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chattahoochee river have been shut down in the worst flooding to hit atlanta in years. jane: an armored car robbery. an employee was shot. jon: general motors wants people to put its cars to the test. we will do just that. president obama and other leaders around the world are gathering for the general assembly meetings. they include some of the most controversial leaders in the world, like mahmoud ahmadinejad, muammar gaddafi, and hugo chavez. what is the controversy over where these guys are staying? >> the big question this morning is, will president obama be able to avoid a been a job --
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ahmadinejad? it turns out that the iranian leader usually stays at the intercontinental hotel here in manhattan. he has been bounced out of other hotels. meanwhile, as far as muammar gaddafi, she had trouble finding a place to stay when he -- he had trouble finding a place to stay while he was here. he tried to find a place to pitch his tent, both in central park and new jersey, and he was not allowed to do so. he had reservations canceled in several hotels, and now he will be staying in a local mission. jon: those are not the only controversial leaders who are there, right? >> the president of bolivia is here and spoke to the u.n. this
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morning, chastising them. the bolivian lear says while he respects obama, he does not think he has any solutions. bolivia is one of the top drug nations. one observer, christopher walker of freedom house, says the united nations meetings like these give american enemies the perfect platform. >> very non-transparent, unaccountable countries are at the forefront of what you could describe as a bloc of countries who are anathema to america and to the west. >> back to you. jon: president obama, as we mentioned, has been meeting this morning with two important
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middle eastern leaders, benjamin netanyahu from israel and the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas. the president emerged, saying that progress has been made but more needs to be done. he wants the official peace talks started again soon. we will expect playback for those remarks shortly. jane: i want to get back to harris about this brings employee has been shot in an armored car robbery -- this brinks employee who has been shot in an armored car robbery. >> we have video of a bullet hole right in the front of his truck. the guards did survive and is in a local hospital. the robbers have now torched one of their escape vehicles, possibly to cover evidence, and
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now they are on the move. we do not know how many of them there are or how they are armed, but we know that they are dangerous. they shot one guy, took evidence in their vehicle, and managed to get away in at least one other vehicle. this is in the miami-fort lauderdale area. the original crime scene is a warehouse located at the end of runway, one of the runways at fort lauderdale international airport. that trust -- that brinks truck hit a short time ago. thank you. back to you. jon: talk health care. the senate finance committee is reviewing the plan written by committee chairman max baucus of montana. earlier, he was using opening remarks to lay up highlights of what he proposes.
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>> this is no government takeover. not a government takeover of health care. our plan allows choice, and each individual will be able to choose their own plan. our plan does not include a public option. we did not include an employer mandate, and we paid for every cent. jon: our next guest says he is not supporting the plan because it is to expensive. richard burr sits on the pensions committee. what do you not like about the bill put forward? >> specifically, he takes from medicare almost $500 billion, from a health care system that will be insolvent in 2017. he expand the role of medicaid,
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the health insurance that low- income americans receive in their state reimbursing health- care providers at 72 cents of every dollar of cost for the system. this exacerbates the problem from one side of the ledger to the other. at the end of the day, for anybody who is covered, they have not bend the cost curve on health care one bit. all they have done is shift the pocket they pay from, and in many cases, that is the pocket of the american people. jon: obviously, a lot of americans are concerned about what will happen to their health care in the future. a key issue seems to be whether you will be able to keep your current plan, and secondly, whether you will be able to keep your doctor. the president goes out of his way to assure americans that both those things will not change. do you agree? >> if you put more people in a
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capacity where they will only be reimbursed at 72 cents on the dollar for services provided, you have problems getting doctors to see patients. you have got to understand that in our system, the ability to cover the majority of americans is absolutely essential, and no plan currently considered or passed in either the house or senate accomplishes that. so the cost continues to increase for the american people and american businesses. it is going to continue to rise. " jon: -- jon: harry reid spoke in the last couple of hours, warned republicans that they should not try to block this reform plan because, as he put it, he can always use reconciliation, the so-called nuclear option, the procedure allowing democrats to pass health care reform their
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way without republican votes. is that possible? do you believe that threat? secondly, what do you think would happen if he carried it through? >> i do not think it is a threat. i think that is what harry reid intends to do. i think the one miscalculation she makes is that the american people are not watching and they do not care. healthcare has been very personal for every american, and that is what triggered the large average we saw throughout august -- the outrage we saw throughout august. that has not gone away. if senator reid chooses to take a shortcut around the historical protection that we needs to be -- we need to exist, that policy is not made unless 60 senators agree, that would be a great mistake. but only for the bill, but for the senate -- not only for the bill, but for the senate.
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jon: senator richard burr. thanks. jane: let's get to california, where the race to replace arnold schwarzenegger is heating up. there are republicans and democrats stepping up to take his seat. meg whitman is stepping up. what challenges does she face? >> many challenges. first, there is the challenge of dealing with california's broken economy. the status closed up a $26 billion budget hole -- the state just closed up a $26 billion budget hole. then there is the challenge for wickman to explain who she is. -- there is the challenge for whitman to explain who she is. she has to prove why she should be governor. she has opponents on the
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democratic side like former california governor jerry brown, the current state attorney general. gavin newsom from san francisco is well known here. interestingly enough, analysts say that this time around, somebody like meg whitman may have an advantage over better- known democrats. take a listen. >> the fact that neither newsom nor brown has any management, business, private-sector job creation experienced is a real disadvantage in a time like this. >> certainly, one of the things we know that whitman will do is promote her vast experience. she headed ebay for 10 years,
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has a business degree from harvard, is well known in the business community, and she is a billionaire. jane: if you want to hear more, stay with us. meg whitman will be on "the live desk" at the top of the hour. jon: more people could be involved in the terror probe going on in colorado, new york, and around the world. all this is coming in the wake of last week's raid in queens. najibullah zazi, a denver shuttle bus driver, drove to new york to visit friends. he and his father have been arrested and are now charged with lying to federal investigators. but what if otrs are involved? our guest is a senior correspondent for the "new york daily news."
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what are you hearing about how many other people might be out there? >> great question. what we have going on right now is that you have several in custody, one of whom is najibullah abbas -- najibullah zazi, a resident who has been colored online by the fbi, who thinks he is al qaeda-trained. they are looking for other people. i think they have some suspects and people under surveillance, but i do not think they necessarily identified all this possible -- all of his possible alleged co-conspirators in a plot to set off explosives in new york city. jon: 3 people are under arrest. zazi, his father, and an imam. the imam has already been bailed
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out. it is suggested that he gave a tip. there could be up to 11 people they're also looking for now, right? >> that is the report out there. i have not heard that from my sources. my sources have told me that for many different levels of government -- they have told me that they are still looking to identify who zazi might have been working with or in contact with. and they are now scrambling to try and figure out who is out there. they do not know. they also do not know what type of attacks were being planned. you mentioned transit as a possibility, but they also know
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that some of zazi's friends tried to read a 26-foot u-haul truck the day he left colorado to drive to new york city, and that has them really worried. they are trying to find if there is a stash out there with a lot of chemicals or explosive components that they would have loaded into that trap or into backpacks. -- that they would have loaded into the truck or into backpacks. jon: it reminds me of oklahoma city. that is why they are talking about storage facilities and that kind of thing? >> correct. it would have been hydrogen peroxide-based explosives. but they're also looking for other people involved in this who may have scattered or may still be out there, plotting something. they think that whatever the plot was, they think they have killed it, stop it dead in its tracks. but they are not certain.
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jon: let's hope that they did. thanks. jane: legalizing drugs as the way to win the war against drugs. that idea is on the agenda at a conference going on right now ( whooshing )
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jane: the border between el paso, texas, and juarez, mexico, is ground zero for the drug war. today, authorities are meeting to discuss an end to the violence there, including the possibility of decriminalizing some drugs. legalizing marijuana has been a hawk -- hot topic for a while in el paso. >> it has. the city council here voted earlier this year to legalize it, but the mayor quickly vetoed the resolution.
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but this may surprise you. the county attorney here says he, also, is open to the idea of legalizing least some drugs, because he says that will help in the ongoing war on drugs. take a listen. >> if you remove the black market, as we did during prohibition, and you control it and tax it, then it has a diminishing effect on the use. >> one official also tells me that in portugal, the government has voted to do criminalize all with drugs. but texas gov. rick perry says let's take a timeout. this is the united states, and we should set the standard for other countries to follow. there is no way we would ever decriminalize drugs in the lone star state. jane: what is the word from the
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mexican side of this? >> they are pointing their finger at a failed drug policy in the united states. one of 40 in mexico was gunned down fighting drug cartels -- one authority in mexico was gunned down fighting drug cartels. and the u.s. did not prosecute michael phelps. they say that that sends the wrong message. jon: let's listen to president obama. >> i want to thank both benjamin 9 yahoo! -- benjamin netanyahu and president abbas for being here. as i said throughout the campaign, the united states is
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committed to a just, lasting, and comprehensive peace for the middle east. that includes a settlement of the israeli-palestinian conflict that results in two states, israel and palestine, in which both the israeli people and palestinian people can live in peace and security and realize their aspirations for a better life. that is why my secretary of state, hillary clinton, and my special envoy, george mitchell, have worked tirelessly to create a context for permanent negotiations. we have made progress since i took office in january and since israel's government took office in april. but we still have much to do. palestinians have strengthened their efforts on security, but they need to do more to stop fighting and move towards
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negotiation. israel has facilitated greater motion for the palestinians and restrained settlement activity, but they need to translate these discussions into real action on this and other issues. it remains important for the arab states to take concrete steps to promote peace. it is past time to talk about starting negotiations. it is time to move forward. it is time to show flexibility and common sense and a sense of compromise that is necessary to achieve our goals. permanent status negotiations must begin, and soon. more importantly, we much -- must give those negotiations the opportunity to succeed. some message to these leaders is clear. despite all the obstacles, all of the history, all of the mistrust, we have to find a way forward. we have to find the will to
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break the deadlock that has strapped generations in an endless cycle conflict and suffering. we cannot continue the same pattern of taking tentative steps forward and stepping back. we need to act with urgency, and that is why i have asked secretary clinton and senator mitchell to carry out steps for us. senator mitchell will meet next week, and i have asked for teams to be sent to washington next week. and i asked the secretary of state to report to me on the status of these negotiations in mid-october. all of us know that this will not be easy, but we are here today because it is the right thing to do. i look forward to speaking with my colleagues, i am committed to pressing ahead in the weeks and months and years to come,
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because it is absolutely critical that we get this issue resolved. not as critical for the israelis and palestinians, it is critical -- not just for the israelis and palestinians, but it is critical for the united states. we will work as hard as necessary to accomplish our goals. thanks. jon: a new and young american president they're taking his crack at an issue that has bedeviled american presidents for the last six decades. peace between israelis and the palestinians. president obama there is saying it is way past time for peace talks to resume, a fairly stern lecture. the first meeting between himself, benjamin netanyahu, and palestinian president abbas since 9 yahoo! and obama took office this year -- since
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