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independent. -- that they are independent. sean: we have got to run, guys. we appreciate it. that is all of the time we have. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues as we check in with greta van susteren, standing by with a very special "on the record." greta: indeed, kashan. delegates stood up and walked out -- indeed, sean. we have the very latest. plus, the senate works for you, but some in the senate just -- you. you pay their salaries. we will tell you what some senators did to you, coming up, and the former alaskan governor sarah palin is making international headlines. why? here is a hit. she had some things to say about
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president obama -- here is a hint. this may turn out to be the dumbest thing acorn has done. who is giving them advice? and he said the holocaust did not happen. is he crazy, or is he just mean? summit just cannot stand and got up and walked out on his speech -- some just cannot stand him. but first, a controversial speech of president ahmadinejad. >> it is unacceptable that a small minority should dominates the politics, economy, and culture of vast parts of the world through a consecrated network and establish a new form, in fact, of slavery and harm the reputation of other nations, even the european
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nation and the united states, to obtain its racist ambitions. greta: well, all-day protestors were not quiet with their outrage over the iranian president. >> president ahmadinejad is not elected by people or four people. he is against not people of iran, people of humanity. he is that hitler of this time. -- the hitler. >> shame on you. you are not our elected president. stop killing people, and just leave our country and give us our country back. >> he has not election. the people do not want him, but he has the gall to come here to the united states to represent the people of iran. he does not represent us.
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>> president obama, do not support him! do not support him! greta: president obama gave his first speech to the u.n. today. >> make no mistake. this cannot solely be america's endeavor. those used to chastise america for acting alone in the world cannot stand by and wait for america to solve the world problems alone. we have sought in word and deed a new era of engagement with the world, and now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenge. greta: libyan dictator muammar qaddafi spoke for more than 90 minutes. >> the iraqis want to have a
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civil war. if the taliban becomes an government, they would have a nuclear weapon, or they have ballistic missiles, or those airplanes that hit new york. the same place. do the airplanes take off from afghanistan or iran? no, these planes were nj of kennedy airport. greta: -- these airplanes were at jfk airport. greta: donald trump has been getting hammered for letting muammar qaddafi use his property, and now, that plan has been scratched, and the town ordered the tens taken down. former ambassador john bolton joins us -- and the town ordered
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the tent taken down. they were talking and that ending the incitement against israel, and we continue to emphasize -- they were talking about ending the incitement against israel. what does he mean by "continued israeli settlements'? >> i think this is one of the reasons why israel should be very worried about the tone of the speech. he did not say no new settlements. he said continued israeli settlements, which to me calls into question everything that has been built in the territories occupied since 1967. that was only one of the things he said, but it was very striking. greta: is there anything else he said that was striking to you before we move on to ahmadinejad? >> yes, he talked about territories occupied since 1967,
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meeting, in fact, he might want to go back to the 1967 borders. it was a very anti-israel speech, and i was stunned that he tried to show more equivalency between terrorist attacks and them. i think the speech overall was just naïve as one could imagine and sent real signals about how obama views the united nations as the place that will solve all of our problems. greta: ambassador, in a few minutes, we will have the canadian foreign minister who walked out, and several walked out while he spoke. he said, talking about the u.s. racist ambitions, which said the delegation and others out of the roman -- -- which sent the delegation and others out of the room -- he seemed a little toned down tonight. >> well, he did not deny the holocaust. i guess that is the one silver
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lining that you could come up with, but, look, this is what ahmadinejad and i think most of the major figures in the regime their beliefs. that is the basis on which they react, the basis on which they are acquiring nuclear-weapons capability, handed it is indicative that the president's effort to extend an open hand and have ahmadinejad unclinch his fist is doomed to failure. this is what i like ahmadinejad coming to the u.n., so that people can see that he was never going to give up the iranian nuclear program. greta: i understand the sort of symbolic nature of everyone getting up, but what does any nation to get out of these groups of speeches and the assembly here in new york? >> well, you know, the benefit i think for the united states is a lot of people come to new york
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and spent a lot of money. that is not a bad thing, especially in difficult economic times, but the real work occurs and hotel rooms all across the city where people are having meetings unrelated to the u. n, but when you have this many heads of state and foreign ministers in one place at one time, he can actually get a lot of work done. as i said, it does not get anything to do with the u.n., but it is very useful. greta: muammar qaddafi spoke, and others did, and how is the speaking order a range? >> like everything else in the u.n., there is a protocol -- how is the speaking order our range -- arranged? muammar qaddafi spoke third because this year, libya is president of the general assembly, and that is the protocol that follows their p.m. with libya being president, and they help control the schedule, so that is a partial methodology
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for the schedule. this is, again, an indication of what happens in the u.s. and libya is in the security council this year, and people wonder why the region an indication of what happens in the u.n. president obama will be with the security council with the head of state with colonel muammar qaddafi right there. maybe he will have another two- hour speech to give. i cannot wait to watch that one. greta: do you have any idea where qaddafi is denied? donald trump is a real strong american -- where he is tonight? i do not think he would like muammar qaddafi on his property. any idea where he is tonight? >> no, but what he has done in
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other locations is they just clear a floor at the libyan embassy, and he can pitch is tent, -- pitched his tent, and he was sleep soundly, -- pitch his tent. greta: a lot of new yorkers and the traffic, they would like to get rid of the general assembly or even the u.n., but why be in the united states? >> i think having the u.n. here in new york, apart from its economic benefit to the city, puts it in a place where you can actually keep an eye on it from time to time. i think if it were overseas in geneva or one of the other u.s. cities, a lot more of what happened that americans -- in one of the other you and cities -- u.n. cities, a lot more
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would happen that americans would not know about. greta: you have been following this for so long. do any of these countries ever say anything nice about united states, like thank you very much for your aide, or think you for taking a leadership on this issue? >> when you have our own president apologizing for past policies -- or thank you for taking a leadership role on this issue? >> when you have our own president apologizing for past policies, it is hard to see why they would be thanking the united states for some of the things we have done in the united states for, well, i do not know, he defending freedom around the world, to pick one of them. -- i do not know, defending freedom. greta: thank you, ambassador.
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a showdown brewing between president obama and the military, the military telling the president we need more troops in afghanistan, but is the president of dragging its feet on this? senator lindsey graham has just got back from afghanistan -- is the president dragging his feet ? and sarah palin, what did she do? you will find out. what a dif
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- greta: well, president may have a showdown with the military. it is about the war in afghanistan. general stanley mcchrystal is expected to ask the president for as many as 40,000 more troops to fight the war in afghanistan, and according to a paper, general mcchrystal told the stacie was prepared to resign if president obama does not implement the counterinsurgency strategy is approved by congress back in march. going between the white house and the military command. senator lindsey graham was just in afghanistan and joins us live. the first big question, you were there, how bleak as it? do we need more troops? >> yes, we need more troops. greta: is it bad? >> yes, it has deteriorated.
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the taliban have reemerged. the question is why. they do not have an army or an air force, but the problem is real and afghanistan, and we do not have enough troops to go to the outlying areas, so the taliban have emerged, in general mcchrystal is recommending more combat power to bring about better security -- and general mcchrystal is recommending more combat power. with more troops, i do not know if we will be more successful, but without more trees, is not fair to those who are there. greta: because there is a higher risk. >> those who are there cannot change the momentum and take area back in the taliban without help. greta: when you tell me that if, indeed, we need more troops, we had better do it sooner rather than later, and if the discussion was in february, we are already six months behind, and that is putting people at risk, so we need to get a move on it. >> the question for the country
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is eight years after 9/11, i cannot believe we are having a discussion about whether or not we want to make sure the taliban do not come back in charge of afghanistan. can you imagine? greta: and what have we not had greater success? >> troops in iraq. to lose in iraq would have made it impossible to win in afghanistan, so we did divert resources, but they failed to deliver governance. the taliban is filling in the vacuum. the afghan people do not want them back. that is our ace in the hole, but if you do not have this security, you cannot have economic growth or compromise, so whatever reason the taliban are occupying about one-third of the country at different levels, and with additional troops, we can beat them, and then we will have to come up with a strategy to govern better so they do not come back, but the idea of
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fighting at a distance is silly to m&a. greta: do you know what the president is saying -- is silly to me. greta: do you know what the president is saying? >> a counterinsurgency strategy that is designed to protect the people and institutions of government from the insurgency, is a mathematical formula. greta: did he do that in march? >> no, but we sent 21,000 troops earlier this year, but we need more. the counterinsurgency strategy is labor-intensive. here is what worries me. in the last weekend, he is talking about abandoning our counterterrorism strategy, which means you would find outside of afghanistan very few troops, trying to control and afghanistan -- trying to control the taliban from a distance, and here is the
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problem. the taliban will see that as a withdrawal. the people will see that as a withdrawal. the moderates will get killed. the taliban will become stronger. the way we turned a rat brown is instead of training iraqis, we embedded with them -- the way we turned iraq around. that is what we need to do now. the key to getting out is a better security force for the afghan police and army, but to do that, you have to have not just more trainers but more combat power. greta: thank you, senator. coming up, sarah palin did something big. did the media snub the governor? not exactly. we will tell you what happened. and health-care reform, and report coming up, and, yes, you may want to email your senators, but not senator lindsey graham.
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greta: well, she is back, former alaskan governor sarah palin giving her first speech at a business forum in hong kong, and what did she say? joining us is the editorial page editor for "the wall street journal" asia. were you able to get into the governor's speech? >> no, greta, no media was allowed in the speech, as hard as we try. there were reporters camped out in front of the grand hyatt, but we did get a transcript of what she said. greta: any sort of thoughts on how the speech was received? what she talked about?
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>> i sure did. it was basically good red meat for conservatives. it was a very wide-ranging talks. she talked for over one hour. it was on everything from u.s. healthcare to the deficits to the relationship with china to trade protectionism, so it was a very wide-ranging talk, and i think it was well received. greta: who was the group that she spoke to? >> she spoke to a local brokerage firm for the asia/pacific markets, a boutique . in previous years, they have had other big names. for example, bill clinton was here, but the palin visit attracted, i think, the most attention they have had for this conference. greta: did she talk about the war on afghanistan -- in
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afghanistan? to cover all of the topics? did she say anything unexpected? >> i do not think she said anything unexpected. she did not mention obama by name, but she did talk about trade policy and the stalled fta, and she said that the tire tarrifs with china were a mistake -- the terps -- terps -- terrarrifs were a mistake. it was a pretty strong speech. greta: did you get the sense that this was a political break out speech? and i know she has got some legal bills to pay. which is it? or both? >> i think it was probably both.
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there were a lot of rumors floating around hong kong about how much exactly she was compensated. i think it is safe to say that it was in the six figures, so it was not a small amount of change, but it was also a fairly significant foreign-policy speech. to talk about u.s. alliances out here, to talk about trade, that is a pretty significant speech, and it has gotten a lot of notice out here in asia and, i guess, back in the u.s., too, i hope. greta: in terms of the media not getting in, is that the same thing that has happened when other politicians have got to give a speech? did they permit the media to be in there? >> well, these conferences are pretty close to the media, although most of the media community here thought it was a little strange that she did not at least give one press conference.
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the people at the brokerage firms said, "no, look, that is just our rule," but the reality is is that if she had wanted to talk to the press, she could have gotten out there. greta: was the media as interested in the former governor as we seem to be here in the united states? >> they were all over it. they were even following her out to the airport this morning. they were staking out her hotel. they were absolutely all over the story. greta: mary kissel, thank you very much. coming up, at the united nations, many countries walked out, refusing to hear president ahmadinejad speech. and the canadian foreign minister is here. and where are they going? the answer is in the best of the rest. -- the answers.
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greta: here in the united states, and united nations, giving a speech, but not everyone stuck around for the speech. some people are sick of what mahmoud ahmadinejad says. the canadian foreign minister, who walked out on the speech, joins us now. sir, you walked out on the speech before it even began. why did you walk out? >> prime minister stephen harper, the prime minister of canada, indicated earlier today that the outrageous statement by iran's president, denying, of course, a holocaust, casting terrible aspersions against the state of israel -- the holocaust, casteen turbo aspersions against the state of israel -- casting terrible aspersions, complete disregard
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for security council resolutions prompted us to not be in the same room with the iranians while the president was making his speech. that is the reason why we left the general assembly of united nations while he was addressing them. greta: israel did not show up, like you did walking out and not being there for any of it, and the u.s. left. any idea what it took some other countries longer to get up and leave? >> well, you know, from our perspective, we have looked at this iranian leadership over the course of the last several years. i will give you an example of what is now taking place. there is an iranian canadian who works for "newsweek," who is in jail, in tehran, without any consular assistance from the
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government of canada. his wife is back home in montreal. she is with child, expecting a child, very shortly. for humanitarian reasons, we have asked the government of iran -- i have asked their foreign minister -- asked that this individual be released. there are no charges pending against him, and yet, they have refused to acknowledge that he is a dual citizen of both canada and iran, and this is an example of the numerous examples of the outrageous behavior of iran. greta: what do they say about this man? do they just sit there and listen to you? what do they tell you? >> they tell us he was involved in a plot, he is a person that they deny, of course, his canadian citizenship. these are the continual responses we get from this government, so, you know, we
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decided to protest. we decided to protest by walking out on their president's speech and by alerting the world community to the behavior that iran has undertaken over the course of the last several years. it seems to us that as today president obama was calling for a united nations and emphasized on the "united," we all have to be able to come together and look at different ways to move forward, and iran has to be able to do that. they have to be a to wake up and get into the world community, move forward with the world community in lockstep -- they have to be able to wake up. they have to be able to come to grips with horrendous and horrible abuses to human rights, and that is, you know, the whole issue that is before us. greta: canada may have taken a tougher position having walked
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out before, but i might add that there are three americans being held there, and we had last night a wife on his husband is a former fbi agent, and there is no information, information that we would love to have, and many other friendly countries did not walk out at all, so there were some that stayed behind, were there not? >> i cannot tell levys stayed behind, because, obviously, which i cannot tell you who stayed behind, because, obviously -- i cannot tell you who stayed behind, because, obviously, i walked out. there are people in captivity in iran, having not been charged. i think that the world community needs to realize this, and we need to be able to speak out as forcefully as possible on this issue and condemning iran for what they are doing, not only on human rights, but as i mentioned before, on their anti-semitic
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behavior. greta: indeed, it is horrible anti-semitic behavior. i do not know if he is delusional where just me about the holocaust, but anyway, sir, thank you for joining us -- or just mean about the holocaust. up next, do you know what your u.s. senate did to you today? it is incredible arrogance, and they have to stop lying about transparency. and coming up, a stupid thing that acorn did today. they had just opened themselves up to civil discovery. oops. you know, a lot can happen in a year.
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>> from america's news headquarters, i am lauren green, and here is a look at tomorrow's business headquarters. leaders from the top industrial nations kick off the two g-20 summit, welcoming and two dozen heads of states, including barack obama. on the agenda is the global financial crisis, limiting bonuses for executives, phasing out a government bailout programs, and easing trade restrictions. and we may see an upturn tomorrow in the number of americans filing for first-timer
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unemployment. initial jobless claims he took a tumble during the first half of september, but the market expects to see a slight reversal, up near 550,000 claims. analysts say that while the economy is improving, unemployment may not change for several months. greta: what is the senate thinking? and what happened to transparency? remember that word? the senate finance committee just defeated an amendment that would have required the full text of the health-care bill to be posted online 72 hours before it is voted on so you could have read the whole thing if you wanted to. instead, the committee is just posted online what they want you to see, there summary of the bill. why can we not just see the whole bill as it is right now? and if they want to amend it, they can amend it online. joining us now is steve moore,
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an economics writer for "the wall street journal." they are hiding something maybe. everything gets dumped on the internet. >> when i saw this story this morning, greta, the first thing i did was get on the telephone with your producers and say, "greta is never going to believe this one." giving the senators and congressmen to read the bills before they vote on them -- greta: what do they even say that? why do they use the word "transparency"? >> i think the senators think we are not paying any attention. greta: i think they think we are idiots. >> look, folks. the only possible reason they could have for not wanting to post this 72 hours in advance, and, by the way, we're talking about a 1000-page bill. it will take time to read through it.
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the only reason they are not doing that is that they do not want us to know what is in their own bill. greta: senator kerry said something that it was too complex, using legalese or something, and i thought, that is so arrogant. we pay their salaries. that is so arrogant. why do they not write it in plain language? a smart person can write plainly. people trying to act smart right in a way that is hard to understand. >> then they vote on these bills, and then afterwards, after the fact, we find all of these dogs and ponies that are in there, earmarks, and then they say, "i did not know those were in the bill poole " why are we paying the senators? why are we paying the congressmen -- and then they say, "i did not know those were in the bill." greta: in my home town, in
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wisconsin, you wonder, what are they doing? you have one vote. why cannot go on line? if there is something really profoundly objectionable to you, you can call your congressman or senator and say, "look, this is important to me. this is very important to me. please do not do it." >> why did we not do this before with the stimulus bill? remember that? we do not have time to read the bill. greta: you know what is different about the stimulus bill? that was presumably a one-time thing. it was huge. this will change our economy, and whether it is a good idea or a bad idea, we should at least be part of it. >> we waited 25 years for health-care reform. do they not think that we could wait three more days? greta: i hope everyone who is watching is going to write his or her congressman or senator.
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>> i want to give a congratulations for the only democrat who voted for this. all of the others voted against transparency, against openness. brit: so when the right to the senators, get online tonight an email -- greta: so when they write to the senators, and get online tonight in an email, and shout out for lincoln. coming up, breaking up is hard to do. the irs just said they would not include them in the volunteer tax assistance program, and acorn seems to be looking at things differently. in a letter to the irs, she says she is the one suspending the tax services, so who is dumping houma? it sounds like a high school break up, does it not -- who is
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dumping thome -- whom? an acorn -- and a corn -- and acorn is filing a lawsuit in maryland and also finding something against the person who posted on his website. now all three people are being sued, and they are going to be able to depose the entire world, put them under oath, videotape them, get documents, so what a stupid thing. >> emotional distress, the same as videos. they were fired, these employees, by acorn, for wrongdoing, and now they are suing, saying their actions caused emotional distress? for the most part, this man did not even know the filmmakers
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when they shot these. this is an harassment lawsuit. greta: i am jealous of those three, because can you imagine now? you can actually depose these people and make demands for documents, and these rules are so broad in discovery, it is like open season on acorn. >> they can put it online. it is clear from the lossy. look -- from the lawsuit. this is not the end of the things we are going to learn, but it is an act of thuggery, and it is an act to intimidate journalists. greta: this is different. this time, being sued -- now, you do not have to send anyone undercover anymore. you get all of the documents. this is so much better.
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>> running away from acorn, " i am not for acorn." greta: you put somebody on tape, and then you do the next one, and then you get the documents. the two who went undercover had to go off the country, and now, you can sit in your lawyer's office and do it and making them come to you. -- and make them come to you. i am jealous. i would not even have to leave the set. i can get all of the records. they are so lucky. i am jealous. how about this thing with the irs? the irs telling acron that they are dropping them -- telling
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acorn that they are dropping them, and bend them saying they were doing it -- and then them saying that they were doing it. did you not hear the conversation with steve moore? the same people who do this are the same people who want bills online so that you can see them. >> i hate to join the chorus of those people attacking the media, but -- fox is covering it. a well-known anchor the other day was asked about the story, and he said, "that is a cable story," as if he could not deign to lower himself to that level. greta: i am so glad you are here, tucker. up next, the best of the rest. former alaskan governor sarah palin. plus, are oprah and the first lady about to take a trip together? and why? and joe francis, tucker's
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greta: well, you have seen our top stories, but here is the best of the rest. things are getting worse and worse for howard k. stern. he is famous or infamous for being been longtime lawyer and boyfriend of anna nicole smith, but today, he was charged again along with her doctors for feeding her excess of amounts of drugs before she died. all three say they are innocent, but is not a good night for them. and joe francis. it is a good night for him. he is not going back to jail. the founder of "girls gone wild the" is out.
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he faced tax evasion charges and served time in jail. he pled guilty to two charges of filing a false tax returns and one count of bribery in jail workers in exchange for food. he will have to pay $250,000 and will receive credit for jail time served. and how much would you pay to have dinner with former governor sarah palin and the first dude? would you pay $63,000? if you would, you are not alone. a businesswoman in alabama successfully bid in an ebay auction, and now, she and friends are having dinner with the governor. they had to pass a background check. the proceeds go to a charity for wounded veterans. and finally, just how powerful is oprah winfrey? we are going to find out.
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she is joining the fight to bring the 2016 olympics to chicago, and she is hitting the road, going to denmark to make the big pitch, but she is not alone. she has some other star power with her. first lady michelle obama. the big decision day october 2, when they make the final decision. chicago is in a tight battle with madrid, rio de janeiro, and tokyo to land the games, and there you have is, the best of the rest. and coming up, hypocrisy. jimmy phthalate is next. -- jimy fallon. tools are uncomplicated?
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greta: 11:00 is almost here. flash the studio lights. it is time, last call. do you hear celebrities talking about global warming and then see them board their fancy private jets? jimmy fallon. >> over 150 leaders are here, including president obama. it is good to see them all getting into their separate cars as they come here to discuss climate. greta: ouch. that is your last call. lights are blinking. we are closing down shop. we will see you again tomorrow. you have got to watch
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