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brian: thank you for watching today. tomorrow we have michael strahan. alisyn: and do not forget to catch a "rescue ink." [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- bill: iran getting a warning from western nations that the united nations. president obama talk about controlling the nuclear weapons around the globe. he repeats that today and we will see what he says about the threat from iran and north korea. this is a fox news alert. big news on the senate health care fight. after months of hearing town hall for his offense like these,
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said the democrats have slammed the door on republican efforts to do both. 72 hours at a minimum. good morning, everyone. we are also live in washington. back in new york, good morning to you, megyn kelly. megyn: good morning. it is getting increasingly tense to come up with health care overhaul in the senate. democrats making headlines defeating gop efforts that would have forced them to host the health care plan so that americans can read the bill, opposed the cost estimates before voting, and protect benefits for 25% of medicare patients. bill: we expect to hear more
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about this. we have a news conference from republican senators coming up. caroline shively is a leading our coverage this morning. give us three days to read it before we vote. what happened to that? >> democrats killed it. democrats said the result in a two-week delay and they did not have time for that. >> everyone knows the legislative language is arcane, legalistic, and most people do not read the language. >> the american people are entitled to see what we are doing. we should not be afraid of having a better and complete understanding of exactly what we are in the week. >> senator snowe was not happy,
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and that is a problem for chairman baucus, because she is one of the few republicans who are in support of the bill. bill: you can really feel the momentum on this topic. whether or not they will get a bill through remains to be seen. most people seem to be arguing about the bottom line, money. what is the potential timetable for a boat? >> first, we have to get to the senate finance committee. by the earliest, next week. then they have to merge with the senate. bill, thank you. back to you, megyn. megyn: we heard them all
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summer, voters asking lawmakers to be honest, to tell them what was going on with more from. you remember this, right? >> read the bill! at megymegyn: that is all they e asking. not only lawmakers, these people want to see the bill, too. our viewers want to read it as well. as we mentioned earlier, democrats shut down in gop an attempt to post the bill and its cost before a vote. this is what senator jim bunting, who is trying to force the bill, said. >> legislative language and the final cost public for only three
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days before the committee can vote on final passage. megyn: the interim was no. -- the answer was no. it is not just lawmakers who are reading the bill. some of our viewers can cite that passage by memory. bill: either way, any bill that passes the senate will have to mix with the house. that is when things could get ugly. according to a report, nancy pelosi is working on a new bill that would include a government-from insurance option. -- government-run insurance option.
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that may not fit well with the moderate and conservative democrats. later this hour we will be joined by john boehner to get a better read on where things stand right now. i will remind you, he has been saying that health care will not get done this week. megyn: now we go to the united nations where president obama will share -- shared a security council meeting a short time from now. on the minds of many leaders, the specter of a nuclear iran. take a look at this video. they did not want to listen to ahmadinejad last israel, so you have people walking out on his speech. canada made clear it was boycotting. israel as well. he goes off on these -- they are
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not even tangents. his main theme is israel bashing. one more reminder that the west is growing impatient with this rove nation. a british diplomat saying that they need to have a serious response. the u.n. what that response by october 1 were says there will be consequences, but we have heard that before. will it be different this time around? should we expect an announcement some time today on nuclear proliferation, and should we expect it to include a meaningful threat over iran? >> the answer to your question is yes and no. we expect new resolution from the security council within our strengthening the non- proliferation treaty. the administration says this is a major success for their
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foreign policy. the meeting is expected to pass the resolution, aimed at further curbing nuclear proliferation. we understand it does not specifically mention iran, not an iranian-targeted resolution, but administration officials say it is aimed at strengthening existing resolutions that have been passed. megyn: is that it? what else happens at the security council meeting? >> let's see what happens in 15 minutes. for the first time in history, the meeting will be chaired by the president of the united states the reason for that is because the u.s. has the rotating presidency of the security council this month.
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guess who else will be bare feet away from obama, muammar al- qaddafi. we will see what he has to say. maybe he will even try to settle up and speak to the president, even after his diatribe at the general assembly. megyn: i cannot let you go without asking you about that. he went on for 90 minutes. he had his notes on his podium. have you seen anything like that? >> [laughter] crazy things happen here sometimes, but that was pretty good. he talked about lee harvey oswald. even discussed the jet blaclag. he can say whatever he wanted in
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about 15 minutes, and i hope he does it again. megyn: they do provide teleprompter is these days. thank you, eric. bill: this is a fox news alert. new jobless claims dropping for a third week. the number of newly laid-off workers dropped to 530,000 last week. economists expected claims to rise 5000. those unexpected numbers showing signs of a potential economic recovery, but the white house will tell us to expect high unemployment, even with all this stimulus spending. even still, that is a pretty big number. we will see how wall street the rocks. -- reacts. megyn: it is iis it foggy over n
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washington? there we go, it is clearing up. it is not the same here without you. they did not even set up your chair. look at it. bill: how high is your appreciation for hemmer right now? megyn: president obama announces a new strategy in afghanistan. this weekend he suggests we may have to get rid of that strategy. bill: and school children singing a song about the president of the versus are raising questions for the teacher and the school. you will hear the song a bit later.
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for many men, flomax can make a difference in one week. megyn: first, the census bureau cut ties with acorn and then congress voted to stop funding. now the irs says it is cutting ties with the left-wing community organization group. they were involved in the volunteer tax assistance program which provides free tax and buys to tax filers. the irs dropping the group from the program after employees were caught on tape telling a couple just as a pimp and a prostitute
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out to skirt the law. according to the report, the head of acorn said that they would not be doing that type of thing during their own investigation. bill: president obama made a big deal making sure afghanistan was done the right way, announcing a bold new strategy. this week he says it may have to go, only six weeks later. how much has things changed since march? >> i want the american people to understand we have a clear and focused bowl, and to disrupt, dismantle, and the ft al qaeda in pakistan and afghanistan, and to prevent their return in either country in the future. bill: top brass in the military
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says that we cannot win unless we get more troops. my guess right now is bill cowen, a former colonel. this is an all-star lineup. general david petraeus from central command, michael mullen, stanley mcchrystal, all three say we need 40,000 troops within a year, otherwise, we could lose. what does the president do? >> it is a rubber hits the road time for the president. he said this was a war of necessity. now he is faced with a decision he probably does not want to make you will listen to what they say about troops, but he has to worry about his face, people on the left, people here on capitol hill that are not excited to see us increase our
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troops levels. the reality is, this is a long term war. bill: what does your gut tell you? >> i think general mcchrystal will ask for 40,000 troops and he will give him just a portion of that bill: what about the claim that you have to listen to your commanders on the ground? >> he is in a position of having to listen to his commanders on the ground, as well his colleagues and allies here in washington. in many respects, his legacy, with respect to the war on terror, could rest on this decision. if afghanistan and al qaeda turns into a worse situation, when clearly the best and brightest military commanders have said that we need more, it will be on him.
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bill: is 40,000 enough? >> it will definitely buy them some time in the meantime wiley -- while we refine our strategy. we will be training the afghan army as well. bill: this sounds like iraq. these are two totally different theaters. >> it took us a long time to learn how to fight properly in iraq. in afghanistan we are doing similar counterinsurgency programs but in the iraq we had urban centers where the bad guys were. in afghanistan, they are spread all over the country. bill, what about the suggestion
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from the vice-president that we could fight this with technology. you could keep a lid on these and surgeons and in the tribal areas. >> i would like to see this strategy for doing that, because i would like something to laugh at. you cannot win this war with technology. it is all about the people. people on the ground, how we deal with them, is the answer. megyn: coming up, and in vitro fertilization nightmare that you will not believed. we could learn more about the suspects who planned an attack on u.s. -- on the u.s. and senate democrats the feeding and effort to let america read the health care reform bill.
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sample. the family decided to have the baby and will give the baby boy to his biological parents after he is born. carina sonn is in ohio. as the family got in a full explanation from the fertility clinic about how this mixup happened? and they are supposed to be regimented so that this does not happen. >> the short answer is no, they have not received any explanation from the fertility clinic. they are hoping the clinic the signs to explain on their own. in essence, what happened was, the couple has three children. the last child is a result of ivf. this couple felt like it was their responsibility to use all the embryos they created in the
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process. so they froze them until they were ready to get pregnant again. they were ready this past february. now they have found out that the vat is not theirs. megyn: i guess the fertility clinic called them to give them the good news and bad news together. how did the savages react? >> sean savage was the first one to hear, and there have been mixed emotions, but mainly tears. >> i burst into tears. i was crying. i don't think anger -- i cannot believe what he was saying.
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i kept thinking, there is a baby inside of me that is not mine. what are we going to do? then you are asking yourself -- i was asking myself that question but i already knew what we had to do. >> it is hard to be impartial when it comes to this story. they said in the last eight months they have had to muster enough strength every day but they know the hardest part is still to come. they will be performing a caesarean section in the coming weeks. megyn: i heard her say that her plan is to say hello and goodbye once the child is born. thank you. what a gift they are giving to these other parents. bill: our best to all of them. a primary suspect rounded up in a new york probe, believed to
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be making hydrogen bombs and packing them in a backpack for delivery. is this the new weapon of choice for potential terrorists here at home? and it is one thing to have the kids say the pledge of allegiance, but we are not sure about this tape where kids are same phrases about the president, and why some parents are saying, not with my kids.
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bill: three suspects charged with lying to the fbi about a terror plot to detonate a series of homemade bombs. the airport shuttle driver zazi and his father face a court in denver. a third accomplice is in court in new york. alicia acunya, what do we expect this week? >> they will all be in court at
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the same time. today we expect the prosecution on this side to keep him with high bond. there is also a detention hearing for the son and father. we are expecting to hear some new information in the court today. the extent, we do not know. bill: that is a good point. do we expect a bombshell? >> if there is, it is possible it may not come out in public. the judge asked the prosecution if they would be revealing anything under these -- under the foreign intelligence service act. they did not think so. were they going to bring something forward so sensitive
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to national security or to the investigation itself that it had to be presented in the judge's chambers? so that may not happen, but we are waiting to hear from the federal agents who interviewed the zazi's. if something new came out between monday, the initial court appearance, and today, it is possible we will hear today. bill: in the meantime, here is -- sounds like a father could be released on bond today. does he have anywhere to go? >> that's right. muhammed zazi could go on bond, as long as he is under electronic monitoring. however, he had to be out of him home one week from sunday.
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one of the problems with electronic surveillance is -- issues with electronic surveillance is they have to go to your home to approve its location. bill: thank you. neal livingston, a terrorist analyst that we have turned to often, will be here to tell us about these hydrogen bombs. in the meantime, back to new york. megyn: we are seeing video tape of president obama are arriving at the u.n. security council where he will chair a summit with world leaders to talk about nuclear nonproliferation. we are told the resolutions they will work on does not mention
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iran or north korea by name, but will talk about reeling in those countries which ignore security council resolutions. of their riffle week for him -- a very full week for him. in the meantime, we are trying to get answers about a video that is getting attention on the drug report. joe's young children singing the praises of the president. -- drudge report. it shows a young children singing the praises of the president.
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megyn: information posted with the clip says that it is a school in burlington township, new jersey, but the school will not confirm that. in fact, they will not confirm anything. we have made multiple times asking them about this date. -- tape. we hope that they can get back to us shortly. it went on from there. then came a chance of the children where they praised president obama for his accomplishments, saying you are number one, her ray, mr. president. many would have no problem with this. many would. we just do not know the details behind the tape, but it
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certainly caught our attention. the bernie's young elementary school in new jersey. -- bernice young elementary school in new jersey. bill: and for the first time, a u.s. president chairs the u.s. -- u.n. security council meeting. there are 15 leaders, the well head of state, muhammed elbaradei, the u.n. secretary- general. one of the leaders at the table, muammar al-qaddafi. there you see the russian president. >> containing a letter dated to timber 162009 from the united states of america and amending the item under consideration.
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in accordance with the understanding reached earlier among members, the security council will take action on the draft resolution prior to hearing statements on the secretary-general and council members. accordingly, i shall put a draft revolution -- a resolution to a vote now. with those in favor of the resolution contained in the document please raise their hand? the results of the voting is as follows. the draft resolution is received unanimously, 15 votes in favor. the draft resolution has been adopted unanimously.
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i want to thank everybody who is in attendance. i wish you all the good morning. in the sixth decade and this security council has been in existence, only four natures of this meeting had been convened. i call for this one so that we may address at the highest level in fundamental threat to all peoples and nations, the spread and use of nuclear weapons. as i said yesterday, this institution was founded at the dawn of the atomic age, in part, because man's capacity to kill have to be contained. although we averted a nuclear nightmare during the cold war, we now face proliferation of the scope and complexity that the man's new strategies and approaches. just one nuclear weapon exploded
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in a city, be it moscow, new york, london, paris, could kill hundreds of thousands of people and badly destabilized our security, economy, and our very way of life. once more, the u.n. as a pivotal to play in preventing this crisis. the resolution we just adopted in trying to our commitment to a world without nuclear weapons, and brings the security council on a broad framework of action to reduce nuclear dangers as we work toward that goal. it outlines the agenda i outlined in prague and test all nations have the right to peaceful nuclear energy, and those with weapons have the responsibility to move toward disarmament, and those without the responsibility to forsake them. today we endorsed a global effort to lock down all nuclear materials within four years.
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the u.s. will host a summit next april to advance this goal and help all nations achievement. this resolution will also help strengthen the institution and initiatives that combat the smuggling, finance, and -- and theft of nuclear materials. it calls on a freeze of any financial assets being used for proliferation and stronger safeguards to reduce the likelihood that peaceful nuclear weapons programs can be diverted to weapons program. -- peaceful power program can be diverted to weapons programs. we have made it clear the security council has both the authority and responsibility to respond to violations to this treaty. we have made it clear the security council has the authority and responsibility to determine and respond as necessary when violations of this treaty threatens
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international peace and security. that includes full compliance security council resolutions on iran and north korea. let me clear, this is not about singling out nations, but about standing up for the rights of all nations whom live up to their responsibilities. the world must stand together. we must demonstrate international law is not an empty promise and treaties will be enforced. the next 12 months will be critical in determining whether this resolution and our overall efforts to stop the spread and use of nuclear weapons are successful. all nations must do their part to make this work. in america, my promise to pursue a new agreement with russia to substantially reduce our strategic warheads. we will move forward with the eradication of comprehensive test ban treaty and open the door to deeper cuts in our own arsenal. in january, we will call upon countries to begin negotiations
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on a treaty and the production of fissile production of material for weapons. the conference in may and will strengthen that agreement. we harbor no illusions about the difficulty of bringing about a world without nuclear weapons. we know there are plenty of cynics and there will be setbacks to prove their point, but there will also be days like today that pushed us forward. days that tell a different story. it is a story of the world that understand the difference ordovician is worth destroying all that we have built and all that we love. it is a recognition that brings people of different ethnicities and backgrounds together. in my country it has bought democrat and republican leaders together like george shultz, bill perry, and the kissinger, who were with us today. it was a republican president,
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ronald reagan, who want to articulate the goal that we seek in the starkest of terms. "a nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. no matter how great the obstacles may seem, we must never stop our efforts to reduce the weapons of war. we must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished on the face of the earth." that is our task. that can be our destiny. we will leave this meeting with a renewed determination to achieve this shared goal. thank you. in accordance with the understanding reached among council members, i wish to remind all speakers to limit their statements to more -- no more than five minutes in order to enable the council to carry on its work expeditiously.
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delegation with lengthy statement are kindly requested to circulate the text in writing -- megyn: there you have the president giving some technical remarks. an unprecedented nuclear summit. president obama's into those in attendance, first taking a vote, and then praising them for a global effort to knock down in nuclear materials within four years and calling on all states to freeze financial asset being used to acquire and build nuclear arsenals, and to stop peaceful nuclear programs from transferring the technology into a weapons program, which appears to be a reference to iran. short and sweet, the president doing something that he has never done before, caring this meeting at the united nations. you can see more of this meeting at foxnews.com.
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and bill: nancy pelosi is pushing to finish a house health care reform bill by next week hoping for a vote by mid october. if she gets her way, it would adopt the wish list of the far left wing of the party. back with the plans for a bigger government-run program and had millionaires pay for it. john boehner, republican from ohio, is my guest. >> welcome to washington. bill: you are the reason i came. you can the former mayor, anthony williams. i will explain everything. what do you think of the millionaires tax? you have moderate democrats who
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are just as worried about the deficit, taxes on every day americans. is this going to fly? >> no. right now americans are concerned about the economy, the high unemployment rate. they have all of this stimulus spending and it was supposed to be about jobs but it turned into more spending to think that we are going to tax the rich people who we expect to create new jobs, the money is going to go to the government. it is not just republicans who are uniformly opposed to what democrats want to do, it is even democrats in her own party. bill, not only in them, -- bill: not only them, you have been on tv all week. you are one of the republican leaders who say the votes are not there. you say that health care will not pass? >> the current bills have been
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rejected by the american people. when 60% of the american people say, slowdown, we do not want a government takeover of our health-care system, their members of congress listened. that is why i do not believe the votes are there to pass this. bill, it is a tricky scenario involving politics. -- bill: it is a tricky scenario involving politics. we have to go to a quick commercial break. first of all, in a moment, john boehner will be back with us. megyn: coming up, her pricking details -- heartbreaking details resulting from the john travolta and the formal extortion plot connected to the
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about health care. if democrats do not get something done, it is a risk to their party, like 1994. it could also be a risk to the presidency, only nine months into the presidency. so how do you define something? >> this massive health care bill, in my mind, will not get finished, because the american people say no. at the end of the day, we listen to our constituents. if they want to survive the next election, they cannot ignore their constituents. that is why i think this massive government takeover does not happen. you have to understand, but what they're members of the plank with the stimulus bill, the cap and trade in the house.
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members have taken all kinds of heat over it, and as a result, are very reluctant to do it again. bill: what about reading the bill three days ahead? do the town halls mean anything? >> in the house, democrats and republicans are working to force a vote in the house requiring a 72-hour layover for any major spending. bill: good luck with that. bill: democrats and republicans are talking about that. thank you, by the way. you and mayor anthony williams. you are helping a lot of underprivileged kids here in the city. i was lucky enough to be there. you have done great work.
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you started this program with ted kennedy nine years ago. you have raised literally millions of dollars to benefit so many young kids. >> it is about giving kids a chance. a lot of these public centers are not getting the job done. these are schools in neighborhoods, 90% minority. in a bipartisan way, we raise money to keep the doors open to give these kids a chance. bill: in such a partisan town, you are doing the right thing. he went to school in cincinnati at my archrivals high school. i did my duty to wear my school colors. megyn: good for both of you.
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senators back on the hill this morning for a new round of what is being called the baucus brawl. scott rasmussen will be with us to tell us why america is so angry. and he showed up like a rock star but then started to ramble on like a crazy man. one of the wildest speeches at the u.n., ever. al settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- megyn: welcome back. for months you have been demanding details on health care reform, ask who will be covered, what it will cost, and how the changes will affect our coverage. new details on the plan being debated in the senate finance committee race herself.
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he might not like what you are about to hear. health care reform is where we began on this thursday. hello, everybody. bill: i am in washington today. in a partisan move, democrats have said no to republican efforts to get rid of medicare cuts. megyn: and they have said no to posting the bill on line before they vote so you can read the bill. democrats say that this is just a delay tactic that republicans are arguing for. republicans say they simply want transparency. chuck grassley apparently thinks constituents and genuinely want their lawmakers to vote -- read this before they vote. >> you do not want to insult the intelligence of the american
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people because they understand what the issue is. it is kind of what they expect us to do anyway, read a bill before you vote on it. megyn: that is pretty tough. carl cameron, all this back and forth about whether or not they are going to read the bill -- let's start with the substance. there was a big debate over the cut in medicare, how deep they would be. what do you know? >> we are talking about $900 billion to put together a co-op with individual interest requirements. there will be some premiums, and there is a debate over whether that will cause taxes for individuals. with medicare, you are talking about a $500 billion cut to medicare over all. within that there is a program called medicare advantage.
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you can see that max baucus is talking right now. he has been in a battle with orrin hatch over the president's word, giving people the option not to go into the public plan. republicans and the congressional budget office say that if you take $123 billion from the medicare advantage program, it will reduce services. it is kind of like the hmo for medicare. it costs more, but you get more services. republicans say that it has been very helpful and has held over 20 million seniors over the past few years. democrats say that if we do not reduce this part, medicare itself will be headed to bankruptcy even faster. it is not just republicans versus democrats.
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a florida senator is trying to grandfather in the people who were in the program previously and guard them from these cuts. now democratic and leadership is trying to kill it. megyn: this sound like political dynamite. seniors is one of the biggest building block in the country. -- are one of the largest voting blocks in the country. the president has made it clear that he does not want medicare advantage. is there really any question at this point? or the seniors on medicare advantage, they are about to see their coverage change.
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>> doug elmendorf, the head of the cbo, said if this goes through, those 20 million in medicare advantage would see their services produced by about half. that would put the assertion the president has made that no one will be forced to go into a public plan if they do not want to, and part of the reason we got this started, they have not been briefed to post the arcane language. it is the kind of stuff that you want to read at night, but it is incredibly important. democrats are withholding publication of that, as well as the cbo scores of what the price tag is. just a few minutes ago, kent conrad asked the finance
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committee chair max baucus, if they got any number of overnight. he said yes, but nothing we wanted to discuss in public. kent conrad said, was afraid of that. megyn: wow. just one of the reasons why people are paying so close attention to this. thank you, carl cameron. bill: i have been telling you for months, if you are having a hard time following a sleep at night, just start reading one of these bills. megyn: i start reading these books on motherhood and i start to feel overwhelmed and under skilled and i cannot sleep at all. bill: do not blame everything on doug either. republicans launching new threats, saying that democrats
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are telling medical companies not to tell their customers what is really in their medicare plan. republicans say this is simply democrats trying to silence any questions about health care overhaul. >> this is, quite frankly, -- it smells like tough, hard ball chicago politics. shut up, the government says, do not communicate with your customers. be quiet and get in line. bill: the other thing mitch mcconnell said -- he refers to it as common sense. if you cut benefits to medicare, benefits will be cut, and seniors have a right to know. megyn: the prime minister of israel will be speaking at the
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united nations today, scheduled for 12:45 eastern time. we are waiting for potential reaction to president obama's remarks yesterday. this is one day after muammar al-qaddafi tough to the ears off of the world body. did you watch? here are a couple of the highlights. he claims capitalists created the swine flu. and he weighed in on the jfk assassination, saying he was killed because he wanted to investigate the israelis. he also thinks the united nations should be located to -- from all, please. libya. that could be because when he
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tried to come to the u.s. he was bounced, of every hotel in town. bill: he has an entire day to make up some more crazy stuff. put a wireless microphone on him. megyn: before we move on, this was the best one. here he was at the podium. what? i digress. bill: three men accused of lying to the fbi in this terrorism probe. all of them will be facing a judge today. the leader of the new york mosque charged with lying to officials about an attack. there is a bail hearing that all happened within the hour. two other suspects in the case are in denver, colorado facing similar charges. this is as investigators search
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for more clues for a potential attack. david lee miller is outside of that court room in brooklyn. what do we expect today? >> we are going to have three simultaneous bail hearings. in denver, the prosecutor is likely to ask that he will be held without bail. his father could be released on $50,000 bail. here in new york is the imam you referred to. it is likely that they will ask the be held without bail. "the new york daily news" is reporting that one of them pled guilty to a sexual abuse charge and spent six months in prison. we have not been able to confirm this, and we asked his attorney about it. he would neither confirm nor
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deny the report. it will be interesting to learn -- to see what we learn more about this imam. bill: thank you. we will speak to a terrorism expert about these hydrogen peroxide bombs. is this the new strategy? back to megyb. megyn: human trafficking under the mexican border. we will take you to the city labeled the human smuggling capital of america. and if you have been to a town hall, you know there are lots of people upset about these health care reform bills. for a new poll numbers on just how angry america is becoming.
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bill: this is a fox news alert. in a matter of moments, we expect republican leadership to brief us on what their strategy is for today regarding health care reform. there is a lot of lebanon. -- there is a lot going on. in the senate, they are taking a look at the health care reform bill proposed by max baucus. republicans have significant concerns about a number of things that have been addressed, including whether americans and politicians will allow the bill to be seen online for three days before they vote on it. we expect that to be one of the
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issues. when they show up, we will bring it to you live. megyn: brand new polls in from recipes and poles. 59% of americans say the current level of political anger in the country is higher today than it was under president bush. that opinion is not partisan. scott rasmussen of rasmussen reports is with us. what are they angry about, and who are they angry at? >> they are angry at the political system. 80% said that republican nor democratic leaders have any understanding of what is needed. people are overwhelmingly opposing the bailout, other
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programs. voters say that they want someone to listen. megyn: you got very strong feedback from every single group. 44% of democrats said yes, i am someone angry. 90% of republicans are angry. 70% of the independents. at the end of president bush's presidency, people were angry and about him. >> it is not that they are angry at the administration, they are angry at both. the challenge for any administration is to find a way to tap into this anger. republicans are having a hard time doing it because most people feel like they are out of touch as well. this is a tough situation to do with and neither party seem to have a deal to -- a way to deal
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with it. megyn: i know a lot of people were angry about president bush over the t.a.r.p. bailout. you asked about health care as well. what did you find out? what is the temperature of the nation? >> 56% oppose the plan working its way through congress. 43% approved. what is interesting is the numbers are not moving. most people with insurance believe they will be forced to switch policies if this plan goes through, and that should be troubling for the white house. the white house has been saying that that is not the case but he has not had any success getting that message through. megyn: no one believes that washington has the answer to this question. you asked that question. what did they say? >> more than two to one, people
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say no matter how bad things are, congress can make things worse. megyn: have they always felt that way? did they feel that way in the past it ministration? >> there is always skepticism, but it is higher right now than it was six months ago. we have a scale of populist views and a lot of people share that view. megyn: maybe if lawmakers read the bill, americans would have more confidence in them. thank you. always a pleasure. bill: i do not feel better after that. megyn: me neither. bill: explosive new developments in the undercover a court video
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in the bahamas, threatened to release a certain document unless the movie star cough up the money. the document was a refusal to transport form. he signed a lease of the driver to say you are not going to take my son to the hospital, so you are released from liability. originally, they said that he never signed such a document, but now there is some question. on the stand, he gave heart wrenching testimony, talking about how he gave his son cpr and admitted for the first time that his son had often. -- autism. the ambulance driver and the senator has pleaded not guilty to extortion charges. bill: from phoenix, arizona, a
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tax that the city does not want to have, the human smuggling capital of america. how do they do that? adam housley is live in phoenix. i am reading about a drop house. what is that? >> basically, a place where the smugglers bring the people in, and then they send out to different parts of the country. bring them to the border, and from that location, they are taken to chicago, other places around the country. bill: they are well hidden, right? if they are, how do authorities find out about them? >> what is happening is they were usually in rural homes.
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where i am right now is pretty nice, however. this drop house was busted a few months ago. even neighbors who live here, to this day, do not even know that there was a dog house here. one lady called when she found some interesting things happening at night. at the same time, someone being held against their will stuck to a phone booth and called for help. when police arrived, and they found these people waiting to be released. bill: thank you. good to see you. megyn: investigators want to know if they suspected terrorist was planning an attack inside the united states similar to the one at 10th and on the london transit system. the explosives used in 2005 were
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apparently not that hard to make. we will take a look at how dangerous this could be to americans. bill: we have seen this before. acorn workers telling a pimp and a prostitute had to skirt the law. now they are firing back in court. do they have a legal leg to stand on? imodium multi-symptom relief combines two powerful medicines for fast relief of your diarrhea symptoms, so you can get back out there. imodium. get back out there.
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bill: we are awaiting this federal hearing in brooklyn for one of the men suspected of taking place in a terror plot potentially targeting transit systems. investigators believe the suspects were planning to use hydrogen peroxide bombs. those were the same weapon used to target the london transit system in 2005. neal livingston, our terrorism expert is our guest today. is this the new weapon of choice for al qaeda? >> is is an improvised explosive. was also what was used in the first world trade center bombing. the oklahoma city bombing was
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also an improvised explosive. the trend is these guys are getting normal chemicals around the house and building a bomb. bill: what is so dangerous about hydrogen peroxide? >> hydrogen peroxide is in a lot of our household products in a very diluted form, but if it is very concentrated, and you put it together with normal household chemicals, like nail polish, and so on -- we are not going to discuss all of them -- but you can easily build a bomb. bill: we are hearing from david lee miller that the jury has found that suspect guilty, charged with conspiracy to use
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weapons of mass destruction. >> zazi appears to have been trained in terror camps, probably in pakistan. he had bomb-making materials that he downloaded off of the internet. that is another problem we have right now. you can learn to do these things by simply downloading. the technology is readily available and these guys appear to access that technology, and may have been in the business of buying the various components that they needed. bill: we will go dr. david in a moment. they told investigators that he trained in terrorist camps in afghanistan. he is of afghan origin. apparently he also had on his computer documents about how to build a bomb.
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dugard two four two, if that is true. >> we believe they also had a dozen backpacks that officials discovered. that would suggest they were public going to put the bonds in the backpack and fill it with various things like nails, ball bearings, and either set them off themselves as suicide bombers, or leave them in a train or something to detonate. you would see a radius of about 100 of people being cut down by this device. bill: if you made this sort of an explosive device, if you had a bottle of it, how much damage
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could it do? >> hydrogen peroxide is not like ammonium nitrate, which can take down a building. hydrogen peroxide is best used in an enclosed space. it is very good use in a subway system, in a ground ball game. depending on how much they have and what kind of accelerants they use, it could go out 100 feet, maybe 100 yards. bill, it is worth saying, it does not matter how much damage you do, it only takes one to get through. >> if they had gone into a college football game on a saturday where we do not have done it, there's, think about
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what would happen. bill: thank you. your timing was perfect. more breaking news when we get it. megyn: we have breaking news from this story from david lee miller. what do you know, david? >> we just spoke to the clerk's office. there was an indictment for conspiracy for use of weapons of mass destruction. he has been indicted with conspiracy do weapons of mass destruction. the indictment says he was planning to use explosive bombs and other similar devices. it goes on to say the e-mail and internet were used in the conspiracy. at this time, only the younger zazi has been indicted.
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it is not entirely unexpected. he had been charged earlier with lying to investigators. that was only a charge to hold him as to build a case. it appears now that investigation is moving in that direction. since this is a conspiracy, it is likely the government will make its case that they've all have to name other conspirators, which would mean more charges. megyn: thank you, david. he is a gun-slinging quarterback in the nfl, she is a powerhouse on the runway. today, tom brady and gisele bundchen accused of child negligence. and you have seen this video by now. acorn workers advising a pond -- a pimp and prostitutes have to skirt the law.
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this video as well as andrew breitbart who posted the video on his website. acorn and the workers claimed the audio recording is illegal under maryland law. but would a jury ever side with acorn? let's ask our panel. good morning. it is a really stunning. what happened first is bertha lewis, the chief organizer of the acorn, said this past weekend, i want to thank the people who made the video. they did as a favor. in unearthing the problem of the organization. a couple of days later, she filed a lawsuit against them as well as andrew breitbart to the tune of $7 million.
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should they get it? >> what a joke. the proof is in the pudding. if you look at the tate, they are clearly we dictate, they are clearly and bison -- tape, they are clearly advising them on how to avoid the law as well as how to bring in under age girls for a brothel. just because there is potential violation of criminal law does not necessarily follow that there can be several liability, the interior or punitive damages. this case is going nowhere. megyn: there is a statute that does prohibit you up recording someone with audio in maryland. >> they committed a criminal act. in maryland, you cannot record
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another party without permission. i still think they should consider criminal prosecution, not throw the book that these people, but they did commit an offense. i agree with you personally that the lawsuit to go nowhere, but if i am are presenting acorn, first of all, i asked, did they do something illegal? yes, they did. i do not know about the reputation -- megyn: they say the emotional distress the two suffered -- this is not an exaggeration. they have been prisoners in their own home. in maryland, we have the right to say stupid things in our offices without being taped. now they are claiming the horror. >> when you assist a fake pimp
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and oho, it will be pretty tough. now they are in state court. in state jurisdiction, you might have people who are more sympathetic to acorn and its cause. that could assist this lawsuit, but personally, i think it will go nowhere. megyn: their lawyer is coming al blazing saying that if anyone is wrong here, it is them. how do those two workers go in front of a jury and convince them that they are the victims here? >> it is a joke. i'm serious, they do not have a case. they need to prove actual harm.
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i do not know how you can do that when you are on record of advising these people how to get away with tax evasion, and by the way, we will only charge you $150 to charge -- to file your taxes. there is no reasonable expectation of privacy here. they were receiving federal funding. megyn: just to remind everyone, it is only a crime if a recording was made of a private conversation. there is a question over whether or not this was a private conversation. andrew breitbart posted this online. as far as we know, these were independent filmmakers who gave the video to him, and he covered it. how can acorn ostensibly to him? >> if he knew that they were
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going to do this and he posted it on mine, knowing that they illegally obtained it -- megyn: that is not enough. >> i think it is. and if he played a role in it, publishing it makes it a crime. megyn: did he have a role? isn't this what journalists do? >> it is fair game. >> did he know that they were going in there, though? did he play a role? did he send them in? did he support them? >> you could ask that question, but right now there are no facts to support that. >> that should come out, as well as all of this baggage
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surrounding acorn. megyn: acorn could live to rue the day they filed this lawsuit. thank you. one final word, there is a serious question over whether acorn even has a civil action. if it overcomes hurdle, it will be left with a major problem. three of the most unsympathetic plaintiffs possible complaining their own bad behavior was unfairly exposed. such claims cannot attend compare well with juries, and with good reason bill, the jury system. in a moment, a woman who knows true beauty. raising money for cancer research. she is here live. show and tell
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megyn: sacking the quarterback and his model wife with a lawsuit. back in april, the post-wedding bash for tom reidy -- brady and gisele bundchen. a couple of french photographers claimed that there were shots fired. no one was hurt but they are asking for $1 million for hiring negligent security to the party. bill california and now, off with the hair. as you said online, duty says
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and beauty does. i hope you get there. if you do, please come back. bill: that was back in march with a woman on a mission. she said she would shave her head to raise money for cancer research. we said we would bring her back if she did it. she needed to raise $50,000 first. she raised the money, kept her word, and so have we. a warm welcome to the former miss virginia, tara wheeler, who looks even more beautiful now. >> thank you. bill: how does it feel? >> it is a bit colder. the first day, i was crying. it was overwhelming. it is part of who you are, but i'm a healthy 25-year-old. bill, the last time you talked you describe how you look in the mirror and try to imagine yourself bald.
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>> there is nothing that can mimic what you will look like. bill: you've raised $50,000. that is wonderful. and you are still raising money. i think we have videotape that even you would like to see. that is the process. >> that is my mohawk. that is actually my motherother shaving my head. she is a hairdresser. so it went against everything she believes in to shave my head. it is for the good cause. bill: we also have some pictures of you visiting kids with cancer. you go to a special place in the washington area, and you will be seeing those kids again soon. >> i was an ambassador for the children's medical hospital.
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there is one little girl at uva who when i first met her, was just diagnosed with cancer. she lost her hair and her parents e-mail me telling me that she was pretty bummed about that. i told her to tell them that i shave my head, too. all the information can be found at stbaldricks.org. bill: thank you for coming back. you look beautiful. megyn: she deserves that new job. good for her. coming up, a fierce debate in
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