president may have a crush on the grunge rocker/train wreck. she says he winked at her three times. she said he invited her to south america. she says, "he is a sexy dog." nice having you today. megyn is doing great. so is dug, and apparently, so is little edward. martha: see you back here tomorrow. jane: iran fires what you might call some warning shots, testing missiles at israel. good morning, everybody. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- jane: here is a look at iran's missile on the launch pad. it is able to carry warheads for about 1,200 miles. iran has been conducting these

four games as tehran comes under intense international pressure to fully disclose its nuclear activities. what is the reaction at the white house? >> publicly, officials are declining comment. we will hear from the press secretary later in the day. privately, they feel the test really validates the president's decision to change plans from the bush administration's missile defense, which would not have been effective until 2017, and go with a more mobile and more quickly deployed missile defense system to protect europe. 1,200 miles puts much of europe and a number of u.s. military bases in europe and the middle east within range of the iranian missile. officials believe america's anti-missile system could defend against the missiles and effectively protect europe within a few years or even less. jane: this comes, obviously, in a crucial week because we have these big talks coming up on

thursday. what do we know about them? what is the expectation? >> the talks in geneva will go ahead as planned. president obama had already set the stage for tougher sanctions, having added that country for signing a second uranium enrichment facility. this missile test will also go on the agenda, though some republicans feel it makes talking to the iranians irrelevant. >> overseas, if they cannot wait to show us that they have the capability of moving forward with their missile program for their nuclear program, at the very time we are trying to get them to talk, and i think it illustrates the fact that at a certain point, talking is counterproductive because time is not on our side. >> still, defense secretary bob gates says the preferred course is diplomacy. he says there is no military option that does anything more than by time -- buy time. the fact that the iranian

president needed to stuff the ballot box in this year's election to make sure that he 1 suggests to u.s. officials that his government is weak enough that tougher sanctions might really increase public pressure on him. jane: thanks. gregg: defense secretary robert gates in washington, and he is weighing in along the floor of afghanistan, saying it would be a mistake to set a deadline and that a defeat would be disastrous to the united states. all of this as president obama rhee examines our long-term strategy in afghanistan, and the pentagon is actually sitting on the request for more troops from the commanding general. we go live to washington for more on this. how does the administration move forward now with this request? >> we understand the president has a number of meetings scheduled with top security advisers, some of them starting as early as tomorrow. remember, the president has said he is going to be a skeptical audience when it comes to asking

for more troops. we know the assessment goes beyond that. defense secretary robert gates did warn that americans should not expect any end date that is set in stone at this point. here's what he had to say yesterday. >> so i think that the notion of time lines and exit strategies and so on, frankly, i think would all be a strategic mistake. the reality is failure in afghanistan would be a huge setback for the united states. >> and he warns that it would not only be a little deceit if we fell apart in afghanistan, but it would be a huge mental and moral defeat for the u.s. as well and be a real rallying point for al qaeda and the taliban as well. gregg: clearly, there are those who think we should not move precipitously, and some people say we should wait before automatically sending more troops. others say we should withdraw our troops, right? >> absolutely.

because there's so much to consider, and because the president has talked about is the toughest decision thinking about sending any men or women into harm's way. one of the strongest voices on the side of the equations is democratic senator john kerry. he chairs the senate foreign relations committee. one thing he points out outlines that our troops have to work in partnership with the afghan government, but their most recent election is still undecided. he said we had to think about whether the government is legitimate, whether the afghan people view it as legitimate. also said we do need to be asking questions, even though secretary gates has cautioned against that. gregg: the suicide is the urgency you cents in mcchrystal 's report -- the flip side is the urgency you sense. do we have to move on this right away? >> there are a lot of top gop senators.

john mccain is supporting an immediate call for more troops. general mcchrystal has outlined exactly what he needs, and the administration should not wait to act. here's what he had to say. >> it is here. it is clear. it is in great detail, outlines a full range of things, why we need troops. we need troops now, and he said if we fail to provide that assistance, it will be too late. >> certainly a very delicate balance and a lot of tough decisions now for the president. gregg: thanks. jane: first, congress cuts its funding, and in the census bureau severs all ties. now, new reports that bank of america is suspending all commitments to acorn housing, and a silly of the embattled organization. according to the report, the bank will not enter into any new agreements with the group. they have worked with bank of

america on foreclose and prove it -- foreclosure prevention efforts. this comes after the video of the employees telling a suppose it pimp and prostitute how to skirt the law. gregg: the attorney for director roman polanski says he will fight extradition to face justice in a 32-year-old sex case. he was taken into swiss custody on saturday on a u.s. arrest warrant stemming from his wife from california right before sentencing for having illegal sex with a 13-year-old girl. that was back in 1977. what is the latest? >> what we know is that he is sitting in a jail cell on insert, switzerland. probably a jail cell at the airport where he was arrested saturday night when he arrived in switzerland to attend a film festival.

his lawyers are confirming that he will contest any extradition to the united states. they say his client is "in a fighting mood." swiss officials have said that he could apply for bail, but if he gets dale and gets out, he would have to stay in switzerland, and the risk is that he would return to france. france has been a very friendly refuge for roman polanski. he has french citizenship. he fled there 31 years ago from that underage sex sentence. the foreign minister today demanding release of his fellow citizens. he sent a letter to secretary of state clinton. we're told that he is awaiting a reply. this is becoming an international event. also, police citizenship for roman polanski, and polish officials are getting involved, too. gregg: and the sons, of course, do not extradite their own citizens, and as you point out, he has citizenship, but here's what i do not understand.

polanski has traveled outside france before. he owns a home in switzerland. so why was he nabbed now? >> that is a good question. the answer that the swiss authorities say is they do not exactly know when he comes and goes because you do not have to show your passport when you cross over the border between france and switzerland, but we have found out and confirmed that he has a vacation home in switzerland. he spent many months there. the question is also why was this happening now, and why did they not moved earlier? there were some questions that perhaps there had been u.s. pressure on switzerland because of the charges surrounding switzerland banks and the status of tax haven for the countries. swiss authorities say absolutely not, but there has been a lot of attention on roman polanski in the last year. his lawyers in united states have been working to throw this case out, and the judge their says you can come and appeal the sentence, but you have to be

there in person. well, the judge might get his wish. gregg: maybe he wanted to be caught because we understand he was tipped off in advance and decided to go to switzerland anyway, so maybe he does finally want to have this dispose of in some form or fashion. thanks so much. jane: a van carrying day care students has crashed. this is happening in texas? >> yes, grand prairie. it is an area in dallas, and a very scary situation as a van, according to police, tipped the side of a day care center bus. there were 23 little children in this bus. the van gogh's spending, rolling, and rest on its side. here's the good news -- or least eight kids and a bus driver did go to the hospital, we're told none of their injuries are life threatening. the driver of the ban, according to police on the scene, has also gone to a dallas area hospital just as a precaution.

apparently, the suv simply did not see the bus. they are investigating that right now, but the good news is those 23 little children are ok. some of them even got to go home with their parents who showed up at the scene. this is an area of dallas, texas. it's frightening scene this morning. any time kids are involved, that is the case, but the good news is no life-threatening injuries were sustained at the scene. gregg: does my face look a little white to you today? jane: i will not answer that. gregg: that is my worry. you may have noticed something different about our program today. fox news now has a wide screen. we have created a web site for our viewers to help explain what the wide screen really means to you. it will take you through the new wide-screen format, and it will also address other, and

television problems. to get to it, all you have to do is go to our web site, click on the wide-screen link in the right hand corner, and that will take you to our tv fix it died. all your questions should be answered. jane: although you never want to hear them say you are going to be on a wide-screen television. we have more news to come. a pretty terrifying scene on an interstate in wyoming. take a look. what caused the driver of this big rig to lose control. a massive pileup. we will show you the pictures. plus, pope benedict xvi making a historic visit to the czech republic, bringing along his message of peace and unity to the heart of secular europe. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement

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setting off a chain reaction in wyoming. the driver of a tractor-trailer going westbound on in a state 80, lost -- on interstate 80, lost control. several vehicle slammed into one another. fortunately, no serious injuries reported. interstate 80 shut down for most of the day. jane: brand new polls just out this morning shows a poll -- support for health-care support in this country -- support for health-care reform in this country at an all-time low. in the meantime, one of the biggest controversies in the debate over health-care reform surrounds the debate over a public auction. critics say it could lead to all kinds of long waits for people. in canada, some people actually spend money to travel to the united states to get treatment here instead. we have all heard some type of

stories about this. are you finding that they are true? >> absolutely, and some of the stories are actually pretty shocking, especially one i heard last night from a man from toronto whose doctor suspected that he had a tumor in his brain. he was told it would be three months before he could even get in for an mri, but he said he could not wait that long, so he went to the u.s., and the mri confirmed that he did have a golf ball sized stage to a tumor in his brain, but in toronto, when he said he had the surgery right away, the doctors said it would take four months before he could even see a specialist, let alone get the surgery. so he came to the u.s., got the surgery done. his tumor was removed by a doctor in buffalo, and now, he is suing the ontario government for the cost of his health care that he had in the united states. jane: what does the canadian government say about it system

when you hear stories like that? >> they say it is really not the senior pair system causing these delays. it is really the arcane system of referrals, that they can handle this within the system and tweak the system. they would rather have the single payer system because they see it as free health care, even though they have very high taxes, and we know that does not work for the people who need surgery's, also. jane: the canadians who come across the border paid full price? >> that is another shocking thing. they are going through a broker of sorts, who is getting a much lower price. 50% or 70% less than what insurance companies pay for the same thing. he paid $20,000 for that brain tumor to be removed, whereas it would be $100,000 if you or i went through our insurance

company. brokers say they can negotiate prices with doctors. one broker we talk to last night says he has a network of 22 hospitals in 13 states where you can call them up and say he has a patient who needs a procedure and ask to fit him in and negotiate a better price than you or i could get through our insurance companies. jane: thanks. gregg: we are keeping an eye on the airport in prague. " but it xvi should be arriving momentarily. -- pope benedict xvi should be arriving momentarily. he says the world needs god- fearing people preparing to follow the ethical principles of christianity. we'll be going live as soon as the pope arrives. in the meantime, a tragedy on the mean streets of chicago. the brutal beating of a high school honor student captured on videotape. witnesses say he died because he

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gregg: pope benedict xvi wrapping up his historic visit to the czech republic, celebrating an open-air mass for 40,000 of the faithful near prague. we're joined now from the czech republic as we await the pope. he should be arriving momentarily. many of the cardinals are there. a farewell ceremony is going on, and the president of the czech republic is there as well. the czech republic is not exactly a catholic stronghold. what did the pope hope to

achieve there? >> that is right. it is actually one of the most secular countries in europe, and i think he wanted to bring a message here a society that has to be somewhat safe-based. he was saying that basically you can have a material wealth, you can have technological progress, but without god in your life, will be somewhat empty of meaning also, building a society, the importance of religion and faith it is interesting he takes it right here. what he wants to do is he does not expect to change it overnight, but at least getting people thinking. gregg: he certainly has his work cut out for him. a census found that 3.3 million of the 10 million people in the czech republic actually belong

to a church, and recent surveys suggest it still remains pretty low, but how was the perception he received there? >> it is interesting. he mentioned that. he said this had been a country under czechoslovakia's that was atheistic under communism. they had done everything they could to stamp out the faith. despite that, i think people were respectful, and there was a small minority who were really quite enthusiastic about seeing the pope. but he slaughtering up the challenge for the future. i would say overall respectful. while there is a lot of religious indifference, he met with academics and leaders in the cultural world. they did seem to be respectful of his message. gregg: we are continuing to wait to see the pope here as so many people are there in prague, but that country is preparing to

mark the 20th anniversary of the 1989 velvet revolution. the ousted a brutal communist regime that had ruthlessly persecuted reviews, and the pope in his remarks, as i understand it, alluded to that, talking about the number of powerful figures who had apparently risen to unattainable heights only to fall and find themselves stripped of power. was that a direct reference to the communists? >> yes, i think it was. that was in the top today, and earlier he mentioned some things that reflected that as well, but he talked about how you can have earthly power, but what does it mean? he went from that to talk about people looking for material power today and material goods and saying that's could also be so many times and falls road. people looking for meaning in power and wealth and that it really does not come in there. i think that is one of the

things he is saying not only for this country but in terms of europe overall. he is trying to return people -- remember to your roots is what he is saying to people all the time. gregg: stand by. we are going to continue to wait for the pope, but we are going to squeeze in a quick break, and we'll come back to you as soon as the pope arrives. jane: on the other side of the break, we will show you this disturbing videotape of a 16- year-old sophomore in a chicago public school who was killed. he was an innocent victim who got caught in the midst of a gang fight, which has been a significant problem in the city of chicago. last year alone, 34 kids in public schools were killed. canopy egyptian cotton sheets are designed to get softer every time you wash them.

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battle over health-care reform. we will tell you why some house democrats want illegal immigrants to have access to health care insurance. could that actually save you money? gregg: and bernie madoff in the slammer for bilking investors out of billions of dollars. the brand a lawsuit targeting members of his family. jane: a north carolina woman this morning making a desperate plea for the return of her daughters, an 11 year-old and a 12 year-old who is nine months pregnant. i want to warn you, this next story is disturbing. police in chicago increasing patrols around a high school on the south side of a story involving the brutal beating death of an honor student. the boy was killed last week during this confrontation you are seeing. it was all caught on amateur video. the fight was between two groups, said to be rival gangs. the video was obtained by fox news in chicago. the police are said to be questioning at least four people

they have identified in that tape. they are looking for more. some parents keeping their children home today because they fear the violence will break out again. he is described as an innocent victim in all of this. as we watch the tape on full, what exactly happened here? >> well, the young man was trying to go home after school. earlier that morning about 8:15, there was a shooting there. someone had shot into the crowd at the high school. i went to the school, let the police presence be very visible at the school. this young man walking home, walked another way trying to avoid the gangs, and they continue to follow him. jane: you can see a couple of these kids are using some boards they are holding, and he unfortunately is on the

receiving end of that, and he ends up on the ground. they have beefed up police patrols. you have been hearing there was possible retaliation? >> yes, we have some people in the community that share with us that there may be some retaliation today. i received an anonymous text message that let me know that during fifth period, there may be something happening today, so i did my part. i notified the fifth district police station and let them know to be on the lookout. jane: i cited the statistic in a few minutes ago. we covered that last year in the school district of chicago, 34 kids were killed in chicago. 290 of them were shot. what can be done to stop this? >> we need to call all levels of government in. we are in a state of emergency in our community. some people are playing it safe

where they do not want to get involved, but right now, it is time to get involved. these are your parishioners or soon-to-be your parishioners. what i'm going to do is call every level of government in, see if we can do an anti-crime summit in the community and start going abroad with this violence will never take place again in chicago public schools. jane: reverence, keep us updated, if you will. gregg: as you all know, bernie madoff is behind bars, and all his assets are being liquidated. now, members of his immediate family could end up losing everything they have as well. who is being targeted, and who is suing? >> we already know there's a $45 million lawsuit against madoff's wife.

now, four of his family members including his two sons as well as his brother and his niece will now soon face charges. it could come as soon as tomorrow. essentially, a court-appointed trustee on the case is going to bring these charges against these family members -- negligence, breach of fiduciary duties, and also among the charges there will be the fact that he says that these family members profited tens of millions of dollars over the course of this 20-year-long ponzi scheme, and something else important to point out for -- all these family members all held executive positions at his investment firm at some point in time. also, they are all saying they had no knowledge whatsoever of this ponzi scheme. gregg: test to be clear, these are not criminal charges but rather accusations that underlie a civil effort to receive money compensation, right?

>> absolutely. they are saying that they still had no knowledge of the ponzi scheme, but yes, we are talking about negligence, saying basically they have no idea, and breach of fiduciary duty, but these are some serious charges, and there could be more as the trustee in this case is still looking for billions of dollars that is missing from investors. gregg: thanks a lot. jane: taxes moneyman alan stanford is returning to jail following treatment for a concussion he got in a jailhouse fight. he is being held on charges of running a $7 billion ponzi scheme. the fed's say the victims were investors at the now-defunct stanford group. gregg: 06 expanding into a outsourcing as well as data center management. the deal expected to help them

compete with printing libel h-p. last year, h-p significantly expanded its services, offering with its purchase of eds. jane: pretty shocking revelations concerning kidney dialysis patients. according to an investigation by the local paper there, thousands of kidney patients in the united states start dialysis without first being told about kidney transplants or that the procedure would be cheaper and lead to longer lives. the newspaper ehud records from the united states real data system and found that some patients spent five years on dialysis before being put on the kidney transplant list. doctors say the delay is partly caused by dialysis clinics seeking medicare payments. gregg: iran in a brand new show of force test firing missiles that could actually -- not just tullibee but our troops in the persian gulf just days before talks with major powers concerned that if tehran is building nuclear weapons.

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jane: coming of new in our next hour, new concerns about what the feds are calling the worst terror plot sense 9/11. cops are saying they have their chief suspect,, but what about his accomplices? the government reaching out to the world after the worst flooding the country has seen. gregg: and we are following the huge crowd in prague and the czech republic. there you see the people waiting to say goodbye to pope benedict xvi. he is wrapping up his visit there. he held a couple of open-air masses yesterday. 120,000 people showed up, and today, 40,000, and now, obviously, and much smaller crowd at the airport there for the czech president. he is in attendance, and when

the pope speaks, we will take his remarks live. in meantime, iran is testing missiles just days after the world found out about its secret -- secret underground nuclear site. the west warning iran it must open the site to international inspection, adding brand new urgency to nuclear talks between iran and six major powers, including the united states. secretary of state clinton saying yesterday she does not believe iran can convince anyone that its nuclear program is purely for peaceful purposes. >> we have made it clear to iran that they have a right to peaceful nuclear energy for civilian purposes under appropriate safeguards and monitoring, but not to a nuclear weapons program, and if we do not get the answers we are expecting and the changes in behavior we are looking for, we will work with our partners to move toward sanctions. gregg: the former national

security council staff member joins us here on this set. always great to see you. is there any doubt in your mind that this secret underground site is configured purely for developing nuclear weapons? >> that is the only thing it could be, the logistics of it, the size of it. it is only a side that is going to enrich uranium. this was followed by long range and medium-range missiles test over the weekend. there is now no doubt in anybody's mind that iran is going for the bomb. gregg: i have here a list of all the united nations resolutions, including three rounds of sanctions. it has had no effect on iran. they have defied the sanctions with impunity. so now, the obama administration is talking of new sanctions, but these are different -- oil and gas, financial sanctions, and so

forth. could those succeed where the other sanctions failed? >> if they are enforced. there are two kinds that could happen. right now, obama has more good will on the part of other countries -- russia and china -- and he had before to enforce them. the iranians make export oil, but the oil refiners have to import gasoline. if we had an absolute freeze -- gregg: but how do you stop the chinese from giving gasoline? >> this is the thing. if you could get the russians, and obama's ploy -- if we get everybody but the chinese to go along with this, the question is do the chinese really want to be left out as a rogue nation? but there is something america could do even without the gasoline sanctions. it is the banking system. iran -- all of its oil is going to the dollar denomination, so

somebody writes a check to iran, we could just refused to cash that check. we could refuse to let it go through our banking system. gregg: and they just would not suffer the financial loss? there was suddenly changed their behavior >> > the iranian economy would come to a screeching halt in about two weeks. and the thought is that if you have enough of these sanctions, it topples the iranian government. gregg: let's take this down the road a little bit. they have lied about their nuclear program several times, but let's assume for the sake of our discussion that tehran does capitulate, foreswear nuclear weapons backed by some supervision and intel data. could we still nevertheless trust them? there may be other facilities we do not know about >> > he is implying there are more we do not even know about yet.

the question is trust but verify. it may be a longshot, but what is the alternative? if iran gets nuclear weapons, you have a nuclear arms race in the middle east. israel concludes that nobody is going to stop iran, they will feel compelled to attack. gregg: do you think this will stop russia from providing iran with the anti-aircraft missile system? do you think they will actually say that the sale is off? >> that is the key. that is a state-of-the-art air defense system that could shoot down any israeli aircraft, and you cannot know. presumably, that is what obama got in his goodwill gesture to russia. we will know in a couple of weeks. gregg: i suspected there was a quid pro quo. >> if there was not, then it was very foolish of us to cancel. jane: some democrats in d.c.

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gregg: pope benedict xvi on the left-hand side of your screen. in a moment ago, you saw the czech president seated next to him. let's listen for a moment. >> the many volunteers who helped to direct the cause, and also people have been praying for the good of the czech nation.

i was able to stand together with the bishop. it was particularly moving this morning. i was able to reflect in prayerful thanksgiving on the origin of christianity in this region and indeed throughout the slavic territories. as well as contemplative centsse

on the liberation of the country from opposition and oppression. my meeting with the representatives of other christian communities is of importance throughout this land, which has suffered the most from the consequence of division at the time of the 30-year's war. much has already been achieved in healing, but the steps taken all along the line of reconciliation first along solid foundations. there is an important part for the academic community to play in its uncompromising search for truth. i was grateful to spend time with representatives of the nation's universities. i was especially delighted to meet the young people and to encourage them to build on the

nation's past, particularly its christian heritage. anyone who keeps their ability to see beauty never grows old if our eyes remain open to the beauty of creation and our minds to the beauty of his troops, we remain young -- to the beauty of his truth. mr. president, i thank you once again, and i promised to remember you in my purse and to carry you in my heart. may god bless the czech republic'. [applause]

gregg: the farewell remarks from pope benedict xvi in the czech republic, referring to their murdered patron saint, who was murdered back in 93580 -- 935 a.d. in the meantime, it is the latest battle in the debate over health-care reform. some house democrats now backing an effort to extend coverage to illegals. the congressman from california along with other congressman writing letters to key players in the health-care debate, each addressing coverage for legal and illegal in united states.

joining us now for a fair and balanced debate, former communications director for the national republican congressional committee, and a former campaign manager for dick gephardt. you know the president has repeatedly said that this health care reform bill will not include coverage for illegals, and yet, if you read deep into what rep honda it is saying, he is saying that the illegals should be able to buy it on their own through the government-established exchanges in health care reform. so what do you think of that? >> yes, the president has said that, and i noticed that joe wilson's signature is not on the letter, to -- gregg: cheap shot. >> honda also said they should be able to receive subsidies. this is a ridiculous argument.

they make a very good point financially. we are paying for illegal immigrants to receive health care. today, it is primarily at emergency rooms. there is $120 billion a year in uncompensated health care in this country, and we all pay a through either higher taxes or higher healthcare premiums, but i think the better way to go -- the block this bill says instant background check before anyone can buy into an exchange. we ought to have a background check for all employers to determine whether their workers are illegal or not. gregg: steve makes a pretty good point here. $10.7 billion a year is spent on illegals because they get free health care and emergency rooms. the hospital seek reimbursement, and it drives up health care costs, so why not do it in a way that not only helps the illegals, but would also help taxpayers? >> that answer is pretty simple.

this health care bill does not exist to help illegal immigrants, and it should not. certainly, illegal immigrants create a tremendous cost to taxpayers. ask anyone in the state of california. this is not the right way to do it, but what this represents, i think, are two really big problems that this white house has. first of all, the idea that democrats are out there suggesting that this particular health care bill should provide health care to illegal immigrants flies in the face of what president obama said -- gregg: let me stop you there. there are two points to be made. the government is not going to pay for it. illegals would have to pay for themselves. second of all, taxpayers in the long run would save money. i bet you most of our viewers right now are saying, "i could save money?"

>> your viewers are not saying that. i guarantee if you went out there and pulled the american public asking if we should allow illegal immigrants to buy into a government health care program, there would be a resounding no throughout america. this is a political news around the neck of democrats. i cannot even believe that they even -- gregg: we've got a lot poll here, too -- >> we've got a live poll here, too, and i agree. we are not going to allow illegal immigrants to buy into the healthcare plan, so we should exempt -- recently expanded background check and solve the problem once and for all. groups that that republicans do not want that, and there is a lot on the left that do not want it, either, but it is a simple solution to the problem. >> i can agree on that. gregg: i can't believe that you guys agree and i kind of

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jane: top of the tower and happening now, najibullah zazi is behind bars in new york city, but did he have help? gregg: president obama weighed in on one of his biggest decisions as commander in chief. he is talking with his closest advisers, divided on the issue, the growing debate over sending more troops to a afghanistan jane: new information today shows that more than half a million kids each year have serious reactions to their medications. new research shows which medications are behind many of these cases. right now, iran is trying to show its strength to the world and has fired off one of the most powerful weapons in its arsenal, a missile that could reach israel or u.s. bases in the gulf. amy is covering it all for us. the timing is certainly

interesting. >> right. experts are saying that the timing is more significant than the technology. analysts following the story new iran had missiles in the range of about 1,000 miles that could hit israel potentially or u.s. bases in the gulf, possibly the eastern edge of europe, but we have a couple of things going on. as you mentioned, the fact that it was just last week iran admitted it had a heretofore secret nuclear facility, which western analysts say does not logically have any sort of obvious peaceful applications. in other words, there's a lot of suspicion that this really was something that would be part of it weapons program. also, it is just days before an extremely high-profile meeting on the nuclear issue in geneva at which the united states will set at the table, and also, just over a week after president ahmadinejad of iran made comments about israel being in

its final days, israel having not much of a future, so if you put all this together, really, the timing of it does strike us as more dramatic and a bit of a saber-rattling issue, rather than a showcasing of new technology. jane: what has been their reaction if any? >> inside iran, the military brass have said that this is about self-defense. i think that it is no secret, though, iran will say it is not afraid of any sort of attack from "the enemy." i think that iran is very concerned about a possible particularly israeli military strike upon its nuclear installations. that said, given that they have said this is all about self- defense, and they have said that they were pre-planned, people were skeptical and think that it is a reaction to the escalation of events over the last few days, and people in iran have said that these missiles do not

have a self-defense application. they are offensive missiles, so they are not necessarily -- they are not technology that could deter any strike against iran, but they are certainly missiles that could be trotted out in the event that iran was attacked and wanted to retaliate against an enemy that had staged a strike on its military facilities. gregg: federal authorities say he was behind the most serious terror plot sense 9/11. as najibullah zazi awaits arraignment, we are learning more about his alleged plot, but one question remains -- what happened to his alleged accomplices? in order to have a conspiracy, you have to have co- conspirators. how many possible co- conspirators to investigators have in their sites? >> they are not sure exactly how many, but they know of at least four that are out there that are

still at large, and they are trying to find another key part. they have to find the chemicals that were purchased by these people that were not in zazi's possession when he was arrested. there are three individuals associated that purchased unusual amounts of hydrogen peroxide and acetone over the summer. two key ingredients in the bomb- making instructions that he had on his computer and in handwritten notes. we have seen surveillance video of him making these types of purchases himself at different beauty supply stores, but what makes it so disturbing is that the types of products these guys have been buying -- they all contain high levels of hydrogen peroxide, which could be extremely dangerous. the fourth person he attempted to communicate with on multiple occasions, came in an e-mail, each dispatch more urgent than the last, asking for the exact recipe of how to make these types of explosives, so those four people are certainly two investigators are looking for now. gregg: i hear their defense was

that they were going to start a hair salon. najibullah zazi goes to federal court tomorrow. what has the prosecutor told you is going to happen? >> there are gearing up for an 11:00 a.m. start in district court. tomorrow morning, he will be arraigned on the serious charge of conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction. his defense attorney and defense team now is gathering and will likely most -- most likely enter a plea of not guilty. they will ask for bail and probably will not get it, and the u.s. is to judge, the chief judge that has been assigned to this case, will then set the court date. gregg: thanks a lot. jane: the former roommate of another suspected terrorist suspect is now speaking out. federal authorities say a 19 year-old tried to blow up a dallas skyscraper last week. he had explosives he did not realize were fake. all part of an fbi sting operation.

a roommate who lived with him last year said he was lonely and suicidal in recent months and was unhappy about being away from his family in jordan. he is now held on charges of trying to use a weapon of mass destruction. gregg: on the heels of those arrests, disturbing news from the department justice. a new report out saying that the fbi's capabilities to deal with weapons of mass destruction least something to be desired. officers investigate crimes and prevent attacks, but according to this new report, many of those people could not identify the top threats and vulnerabilities in their areas. what's more, the fbi has yet to come up with a training plan to make sure that these folks get the skills they need to do that job. jane: an urgent search is under way for two girls from north carolina and their adoptive father, all missing. the sisters are 12 and 11.

adding to the urgency is that the 12 year-old on the left is nine months pregnant. her mother said she was due to give birth over this past weekend. the girls were last seen with their adoptive father on thursday. lt. julie gibson is on the phone with us now. i'm just learning in the last couple of minutes that you discovered the father packed for what looked like an extended stay somewhere. >> it appears to us that way now. our original concern was that he had left to take them to school and to the doctor and that's something i have happened to the whole family, but the information we have gained fleets as to believe that he may have packed for an extended stay. jane: what will be the reason to take these girls and not tell the mother where he is going? >> we wish we had that information. jane: what has the mother been able to tell you about the relationship between the father and the girls? >> she and the father are

legally separated, but they still live together as a family. my understanding is that the father and the girls had a good relationship. she had no concerns of any kind up until the time that he disappeared that he would have done anything to them intentionally. jane: does she think they would willingly? >> it appears to everyone that they did. jane: this 12-year-old girl, nine months pregnant. who is the father of the baby? >> we did not investigate her pregnancy. she has not named anyone as the father of her child, that we are aware of. jane: at this point, what do you do with these kind of case? >> right now, he is a custodial fathers who has slept with his children. the only way we can look at it at this point. we are very concerned of her medical condition. we are also concerned if he is a loving father, has he taken her for medical treatment?

we have not found anything of the different ways we have tried. jane: i have to ask you, you have a pregnant 12-year-old girl, a crime was committed somewhere. >> that is always possible, but it could have been a juvenile. we do not know the relationship there as far as the father of the child. jane: we put up the picture several times. we are also going to put up on the screen the tip line that you have set up. we will put this information on our blog as well, go to foxnews.com. lieutenant, let us know if you hear any news. >> i certainly will. we would also like to ask agencies to check with their homeless agencies, parks, hospitals. they do not have a home that we are aware of to go to, so there must be staying somewhere. jane: a lot of questions to be answered. thanks for your time.

gregg: police say three children have been killed in an upstate new york house fire. >> it is upstate new york, about 60 miles from manhattan, the city where we are right now, and right on the border between new jersey and new york. why is that important? when you see this house, you will see that it is in a rural area and that it does not appear to have a lot of damage on the outside, but inside is where the tragedy occurred. investigators fourth trying to figure out what started this fire. young girl's dead. their mother and another child escaped. police and firefighters trying to figure out what exactly started this fire and why those three young teens and that 11- year-old and 12-year-old did not make it appear in school closed today. only one of the kids actually live in the house. two girls were having a sleep over. in school had been going on, the question is might they not have even been home? a very tragic story. the phone calls for 91 coming in

just a couple of hours ago. a heartbreaker. they are trying to find the answers. gregg: very sad. thanks very much. jane: also sad situation is shaping up in the philippines with tens of thousands of people need help. the country seeing its worst flooding in decades, and there are concerns at this hour that more of that weather may become. (voice 1) we've detected an anomaly... (voice 2) how bad is it? (voice 1) traffic's off the chart... (voice 2) they're pinging more targets... (voice 3) isolate... prevent damage... (voice 2) got 'em.

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jane: the government in the philippines now asking the world for help after the nation has been hit by the worst flooding in 42 years. so far, 140 people have been killed. entire towns under water. the pictures are pretty incredible. there are new concerns that more bad weather is on the way. what is the update? >> yes, as often is the case at this time of year, it is the philippines that gets the severe weather, these tropical storms and cyclones coming off the pacific and hitting the philippines. really over just a few hours, this tropical storm dumped enough water on manila and the surrounding areas for what usually is an month's supply of water coming from the skies. flood water destroyed bridges and roads and cut off large areas from the emergency services. troops, police, and civilian

volunteers now struggling to get aid to those thousands left homeless. helicopters are now being used to search for injured or stranded flood victims, and the victim -- the government has not appealed for international help in dealing with this emergency. the government declared a state of calamity in metropolitan manila and 25 surrounding provinces immediately after the storm hit to allow officials to use emergency funding, but there has been criticism of the government's response to the crisis. the president has said the flooding strained the state's response capabilities but added that they did not break. she has taught -- toward some of the devastated areas and even set up a center in the grounds of the devastated palace to help aid this emergency, but most of the water is now receiving from the capital, and it is really a case of a big cleanup there, but officials are saying that the death toll could rise over the coming days as

they begin the search for the missing through these flooded homes. as you said, there is a prediction of some more severe weather on the way. jane: david, thank you. gregg: as it recovers from war, iraq coping with more than political strife and ongoing violence. it is also facing a terrible drought that is killing crops and crippling farms that have flourished for centuries, and is now fighting with neighbors. just how bad is this drought? >> that is right. most people here face the worst that they can remember. you can see the farmland is absolutely parched. there is simply no water flowing through any more, and as a result, crop production in iraq is down by one-half. water has started to flow through in recent weeks, but is simply comes too late for this

year's harvest, which is already ruined. gregg: what is being done to help ease the problem? >> the problem starts in turkey where iraq's key reverse start in turkey and flow through syria. the iraqi government says turkey is taking the boat. negotiations have been going on to try to negotiate an increase of water flow into iraq. the iraqi government says the turkish authorities are simply not letting up through. there was an agreement in place just a few weeks ago, but that agreement is only temporary. it expires october 20, and fears are that once that happens, we could see an even worse crisis. gregg: thanks very much. jane: our mission in afghanistan could fail without more troops on the ground. that is from the main general there.

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gregg: a new battle is brewing in washington over the war in afghanistan after a blunt warning from the commanding general in charge of u.s. and nato forces. general stanley mcchrystal says without more troops, the u.s. faces failure in afghanistan. joining us now is lieutenant colonel tony shaver, director of external communications for the center of advanced defense studies. thanks so much for being with us. it is not just the commander on the ground, stanley mcchrystal, who is urging more troops. david petraeus has endorsed the idea as well.

even the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff told congress we do need more troops. is this president has complete confidence in his military commanders, as he insists he does, doesn't he have to approve their request? >> absolutely. there is really no wiggle room. president obama committed to a sustained and resources counterinsurgency effort. general mcchrystal has said publicly that his assessment has been something that has been ongoing since he arrived, and he has said quite frankly that it was worse than he expected, so i think you owe it to the commander to listen to exactly what he has found there. if you want to support his strategy -- and right now, the strategy, right or wrong -- is to help focus on making the afghan people say, help look at how we can go about precisely targeting the taliban, and go about doing so in such a way that we do not alienate the population -- that is his

strategy. you have to give the general what he needs to sustain that. otherwise, the right thing to do is to relieve him. there is no other option. gregg: one would think so, that logically, that would flow. mcchrystal says we have 12 months to counter the taliban, or we will fail. my goodness, that means, to me at least, time is short. time is critical. and a decision, one would think, by the president, needs to be made and made quickly, especially since every day that our american soldiers are there, their lives are on the line, their lives are in jeopardy, and yet, i heard yesterday secretary of defense gates said that he is sitting on it and has not even given the request to the president. how can that be? >> i think that is 90. i'm certain, based on what i've heard from my friends, the president knew within a day with the true number was. these things do not sit there and just kind of way to go forward.

what he is saying is there is debate about how they are going to handle this. that is what the nuance is really. there have been comments from vice president biden about technology. again, it is all irrelevant to the fact that your commander, who is on the spot, who has gone out and met with all his field commanders, does so on a regular basis -- he understands the ground troops. you have to support him on that, or you have to find someone who will execute a different strategy. gregg: are you stunt that this president has only reportedly had one conversation with his commander on the ground in the last 70 days? i find that surprising. >> i find that extraordinary surprising, since from sources i have, general mcchrystal was on an almost constant contact with vice-president cheney. he had to go from daily contact

with senior administration officials who once every couple of months -- it is not really a good sign. gregg: some have suggested that instead of adding more troops, we withdraw troops, and that we escalate our use of missile attacks, drawn attacks and special forces specifically targeting al qaeda. what do you think of that as an alternative. >> i know they are talking about this in reference to the israeli issues. that is a very small microcosm, but this is a rarity. frankly, this is what secretary of defense rumsfeld did back in iraq. we tried to do it on the cheap, not enough troops. it did not work. gregg: you have to work on the ground to gain the intel. i have to go. thank you so much. jane: president obama is going for the gold. he is going to be right out front lobbying to bring the olympics to one american city.

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gregg: iran as at it again, testing missiles capable of hitting our allies and our own faces. how big of a threat is it, and what will the u.s. response be? jane: it appears more and more likely that guantanamo bay will not close by the president's goal of january. that raises questions about the

lack of transparency from the administration when it comes to this facility. we will tell you who is waving the red flag. gregg: +, fidel castro's victims have already been awarded big bucks by u.s. judges, but collecting that doe is another matter. coming up, why cigars and boos could change all that. i like the idea. jane: we just learned that president obama will be actively lobbying to bring the 2016 olympic games to the city of chicago, his home town. he is taking his sales pitch all the way to copenhagen. this seems unprecedented. what do we know about the trip? >> the president made the choice himself over the weekend that he was going to go. initially, the first lady was going to be the headliner. president obama wanted to go himself, so he will fly all night and be there friday morning for the meeting, and he and the first lady will make presentations at the decision making for the 2016 summer

games, and the president will fly back to washington. he is obviously hoping that with winning the olympics for chicago, but we will see. jane: he does not have to convince me because it is my home town, too, but what is his pitch? >> he has talked about the melting pot nature of chicago, all the ethnicities there, that it really is a perfect place. it is a city of great sports legends, and the sense that a lot of facilities are going to be close to downtown, so the city will really be able to embrace the olympic movement if it comes to chicago in 2016, so the president will make his best pitch on friday. jane: what is the competition? what are the other cities in the running? >> 3 additional, madrid, and tokyo, and it sounds like he will not be the only world leader to shore up -- rio de

jeniero, madrid, and tokyo. other world leaders will be showing up to make their pitch. there was something that rio might be the leading candidate, but we will see. jane: they have obviously never been to chicago. thanks. gregg: all right, with war crimes hearings at guantanamo bay, there are new concerns and questions going on about what is happening inside the detention facility itself after the obama administration promised greater transparency. some critics say access has not improved at all. why is it getting harder for journalists to report this story? >> is used to be that when we covered military commissions, you could make side trips to the detention camp when court was not in session. that has not stopped, and the decision, according to multiple sources, is coming out of

washington. it is clearly not consistent with the administration's stated goal of transparency. a pentagon spokesman did not directly respond to our question but said via e-mail, past experience has led him to believe it is best to keep these visits focused on the purpose of the trip, which in this case is military commission motions, not the detention camp. gregg: was there a particular event or incident that led the defense department to limit the trips? >> it would appear there was an incident in late may. we showed up with our camera, and two of the men held up signs questioning whether the president was a communist or a democrat, and they questioned whether mr. obama was are pressing them because they have not been released five months after the president promised to close guantanamo within a year, and multiple sources have told us that incident was the straw that broke the camel's back. it was highly embarrassing for

the defense department and for the white house, and this was interestingly enough the last trip for journalists to the camp to cover the commission hearings. gregg: all right, so you are to blame for doing good journalism and telling the truth. i understand the aclu has taken an interest in the lack of transparency. what is going on there? >> they told us they had been routinely denied access to the camps, and the decision not to limit the access of journalists, they say, is deeply troubling. >> it is very frustrating, especially now, in light of the administration saying they wished to have greater transparency, it is more than a bit ironic that members of the press are being denied access to the camps when they had it before under president bush. >> for the defense department is now suggesting that we should book separate trips to the camp, which are clearly expensive and time-consuming, when earlier this year, we were allowed to make the half hour trip across the island to the detention centers themselves. clearly, it is a disincentive

for covering was going on inside the scams, especially by the reporters who know the story best. gregg: they are trying to make it hard on you to report. thanks. jane: all temperatures in store for a lot of the country, but rain and gusty temperatures in some parts. >> finally, we are not talking about rain in the south, and that is certainly some good news. it has all cleared out, and it is going to stay that way through the majority of the week. all we have going on is just a few high clouds coming through the area, and all the wet weather has pushed up to the north, and that is what we're looking at for the next couple of days. actually, some strong storms right now moving through the syracuse area are around rochester. we had some mornings and watch box that will be up until 3:00 local time, so the storms are going to continue to be a little rough, and wind speeds are picking up. this is all coming in behind the

front. not only is it wendy, but it is cool. temperatures are running below normal, and they are going to stay that way through the better part of the week. current temperature right now is 56 in minneapolis. in northern parts of minnesota, it is even in the 50's this afternoon. you can expect by tomorrow that temperatures will fall in love it, and even down to the south, they are getting in on some of that autumnal air. tennessee will be in the low 70's, and there will be running roughly 10 degrees or 15 degrees below normal through wednesday. jane: thanks very much. gregg: iran again testing the world's patience and test firing missiles. they could hit israel and american bases in the gulf. just after iran announced it was building that secret underground plant and days before talks in geneva. should we be worried?

jane: also, breaking news out of chicago. we showed you that videotape a little bit earlier of that 16- year-old honors student who was beaten to death, caught in the middle of a gang fight. we learn now there have been three people arrested.

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gi bill. it is supposed to help former military men and women go to college, but a lot of those former military men and women are not getting their money. why of all this money is going to all these different things, why is the military being left out? we will explore that coming up at the top of the hour right here on the "live desk." jane: more on this breaking news out of chicago. a 16-year-old honors student at one of the schools on the south side of that city was beaten to death, caught in the middle of the fight between rival gangs. some of these attacks are wielding these boards. the 16 year-old was hit in the head, and he died on that street. chicago police have been using the videotape that was obtained by our fox station in chicago to try to identify who his attackers were. it looks like they have had some success. we are learning that three people have now been arrested.

three men had been arrested. they are expected to be in court at 1:00 eastern time about 20 minutes from now. we will keep you updated. gregg: we have some other news to tell you about. new york police releasing pictures of a murder suspect. >> let's get right away to these pictures because they are so impressive. they have a suspect so close up and looks like somebody standing next to him took these pictures. in midtown manhattan yesterday, in broad daylight, two people walking along the sidewalk, the man you see there in the center of your screen, accused of stabbing a passer-by, who witnesses say happened to bump into this guide. the guys have words, and he ends up, according to witnesses and police, killing the 20-year-old man of manhattan. the men did not know each other. the police just releasing these surveillance camera pictures. really interesting. you have to ask yourself, these

are cameras everywhere now. these are street level, almost like the camera was in the bushes. police are not saying what else they captured. you have to wonder if they got the stabbing as well because these were taken just moments after that fatal stabbing in midtown during shopping on a sunday afternoon. gregg: thanks. jane: we are seeing much of the world now condemning iran over its newly disclosed uranium enrichment facility. iran's response -- well over the past day, it has been to fire more missiles. these weapons are capable of hitting our allies, hitting u.s. military bases. the author of a "bomb scare: the history and future of nuclear weapons" is with us now. one of the headlines is that they have been firing these missiles. one of them is considered a long-range missile. is any of this technology new? >> it is not.

the longest range missile they demonstrated today is one they have had for about four years. it has a 1200-kilometer range. it is real. it could hit turkey. maybe as far as southern greece. so it threatens our troops in the region and our close allies, but iran does not have a nuclear warhead to put on the missile. this is mainly a bluster, a show of force, both to the international community and a little bit domestically. ahmadinejad has been embarrassed by this recent disclosure, so he is still trying to show that he is tough, trying to shore up at least his conservative fundamentalist base. most of the country is sick of him and his regime, and if there was a fair election in the country, he would be overthrown. jane: people in this country see the headline and ask it president obama did the right thing by shelving this plan for

the missile shield in europe. is that now not looking as was? >> actually, the bush plan would not have had any capability against these missiles. it was aimed at a future iranian missile. what they're doing is actually rushing assets into the region to counter exactly these missiles. they will be putting aegis cruisers time, getting more military assets on station quicker. that will be somewhat of a protection for turkey and israel. jane: but we're talking about 2011. what about between now and then? >> there is not much you could do between now and then. the ships we have do not have the capability to counter this missile in a systematic way. it is stationed in other ports, mostly in the pacific, and it would take them time to move these assets on the board. for now, it is highly unlikely that iran would launch an offensive strike. most of what you are seeing today is sort of like a blowfish

puffing themselves up, saying, "do not attack me. i have something to respond. jane: interesting, you said, this one had been disclosed, and there could be a dozen more and may very well be. >> the national intelligence estimate back in 2007 has said is in there, talking about a suspected ford facility. we have known for almost two years that this plant and other facilities were being erected. president obama was briefed on this during the transition, so all this year, he has known about this facility. it is highly unlikely that this is the only facility. this was designed to be a covert facility for the production of material, most certainly for a nuclear weapon. it is too small to produce material for fuel, but fairly well sized to make about a bombs' worth of material per year, and it is on a

revolutionary guard military base, so any pretense this is a civilian program staff has just been blown. it is likely there are other covert facilities to make the material that would go into the centrifuges, but there are more nuclear shoes to drop. jane: thank you. >> my pleasure. gregg: he is good. he always knows this stuff. all right, you may have noticed something different about our programming today. my face is swollen, and i have added 40 towns overnight. i'm kidding. jane: this is the part where i messed up last time. you look great, then it never. have you been working out? >> we are gregg: -- we are in a wide screen. go to our website to find out what that means. it will address, and television programs -- common television

issues that you have. click on to the video link, and you will find the answers to all your money questions. is very cool, widescreen. jane: you look great. gregg: thank you. you don't mean that, do you? you are not being sincere. jane: a group of people in united states trying to profit from rum, the only way to get the millions of dollars owed to them by fidel castro's government. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years?

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gregg: it is an iconic image. classic american cars on the streets of havana, cuba. now, other symbols of castro's cuba are coming under pressure

like cuban cigars and a rum owned by the government. the reason -- they want to collect millions of dollars owed to them. how have the courts weigh in on this idea? >> they have pretty much been waging alongside the families of the plaintiffs, the cuban americans that are suing the cuban government, would get assets to be paid back to them that they claim were illegally stolen from them right after the revolution. gregg: and its these trademarks are to be auctioned off, how would the plaintiffs actually get the money? >> there is a federal court hearing in a couple of weeks, and miami-dade circuit court judge awarded and family $100 million, but they have only acquired $1 million of that in two years. the attorneys are now trying to sue for these trademarks.

theoretically, is the federal court allowed this to happen, what would happen would be that the u.s. would see the trademark of these select cuban companies, and an auction them off here in the u.s. to the highest bidder, and then that person would pay the money to the u.s. government, and most likely, a percentage of that money would go to the plaintiff's family. gregg: who exactly is going after these trademarks, and how can they do that? >> mostly, cuban-americans, was families live in cuba before the revolution and the cuban american who had their property or their assets seized by castro's government could theoretically file a lawsuit and try to get in on this. it is using a post-9/11 @ call the terrorism risk insurance act, which was passed after 9/11, and that allows americans to sue a sovereign nation and

collect judgments of that nation is on the state department's list of terrorist-sponsored nations. gregg: fascinating. we will continue to watch it. jane: new findings that some really common medications could be making your kids sick. we'll tell you the drugs and sentenced to watch out for. . .

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jane: startling new details about kids and the medicine they

take. more than half a million kids and your head pretty bad reactions to medications. children under the age of five are considered the mill and vulnerable. according to the study, penicillin and other antibiotics cause the most problems. gregg: a spokesperson for the swiss justice ministry says it is unlikely roman polanski will be released on bail. do you think he is a flight risk? his attorneys say that he will fight extradition to the u.s. and he was boston this weekend when he arrived in direct foreign film festival. he fled the u.s. 32 years ago before pleading guilty to having sex with a 13-year-old. with me now is a former sex

crimes prosecutor. we also have a criminal attorney. nobody is above the law, especially when you flee. give me one reason why roman polanski should not be extradited and face penalty? >> the swiss can refuse to hand him over if this is politically motivated. there is a lot to suggest that over the last year this might be politically motivated from the de donte -- d.a.'s office in los angeles. gregg: who cares, he is a criminal. >> no one stands to gain anything by getting him back here. by the way, let's be clear about what he did.

he raped a child. [unintelligible] gregg: one at a time. >> the rate to a child by force. he was in his 40's, she was 13. i do not know if you have a 13- year old. calling this unlawful sex is a shame. >> i have a 12-year-old girl, so i know where you are coming from, but that said, he pled guilty to an offense with no element of forms. he did not plead guilty to forcing anyone to have sex. i am not suggesting it was not