>> this is not a show with family value issues. everybody deserves a mistake. sean: if i made a mistake, would you come to my defense? >> if you use that word, you would be in big trouble. sean: that is all the time we have. let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. greta goes on the record. greta: tonight, rush limbaugh goes for the jugular. his target? president obama. plus, the idea sending shockwaves throughout washington. should the eagles be covered under the health care bill? some say yes, and you will need one coming -- should illegals be covered under the health-care bill? and according to rasmussen poll, supporters of the health-care

plan, an all-time low. rush limbaugh has a theory. >> support for health care falls to a new low, 42% who now favre obama care, 62% support it. -- favor obama care. now, if you want to know why this thing does not get implemented until 2013, here is your answer. he is going to wait until after the 2012 election to make sure any of this stuff is implemented, because once it hits, once the reality of it hits, he is going to have a popular revolt on his hands, and he was 3 years or four years, of his presidency left -- keyboards three or four years -- he wants three or four years of his

presidency left. obama knows we do not want to be part of it. he knows we do not want to be part of it. to be implemented soon after it was signed into law, he can kiss his reelection in 2012 good-bye. greta: joining us live is a congressman, the ranking republican on the house intelligence committee. the evening, congressman. >> hi, greta. greta-- good evening, congressm. greta: it has been pretty much constant for the last couple of months. why do you think that? >> well, i think the number is staying where it is, and it is not improving for the president because the more that people learn about this plan, the less they like it. the second thing is they do not like the process. as rush was just saying, it will

be four years to implement this plan, but nancy pelosi and those in the house make a mockery of this process by saying they will not even be given 72 hours to review this bill, and then i think the most dangerous thing for the president, i think the american people are losing faith for him to be able to lead the nation on this issue and on other issues, and the best example of that is the decision that i think has been made and was made public in the last day or so saying general mcchrystal sends a plan for afghanistan to secretary gates, it is going to sit on a shelf until the president reaches a decision on a new strategy, but at the end of the week, he is willing to go to copenhagen for a pitch for the olympics in chicago, so people are wondering about this president having his priorities mixed up. greta: the thing that caught my

attention is that, apparently, general mcchrystal, and the number of days he has been in this position, as only spoken to the president a couple of times, and he is the commander in afghanistan, and i think that caught my attention more, because who would know the story better than the guy who is actually there? >> that is actually right. greta: go ahead, sir. >> that is exactly right. you have got the commander in chief who has only talked to the commander, a few times in the last six or seven months. that is unbelievable when we have troops in harm's way, and things are not going well. greta: let's go back to this health-care issue. the majority of americans would like to have available to them the program that the members of congress have. what is it? do you know how much you are paying for? >> my health plan is the same as

all other federal employees. i can go through a thick manual and take a look at what plans are available in michigan, and i can take a look at what plans are available in western michigan, and i can choose among those three or four plants, and i will give you the exact details, -- among those three or four plans, and i think i pay around $300 or more a month, but i think that would be great to compare the members of congres'' plans to some private-sector plans so we can see how good the congressional plan is. people always talk about this, but i think this is an area, we can really dig down into, and i think it would be interesting, and i think people would be surprised. i am not complaining, but i think it would not be quite as good as people think it to be. greta: going back over to the

transparency issue, people would seem to think that that is a good standard, whatever members of congress have. i do not know what the matching federal payment is. >> greta, we will get this information and have it for you in a week. greta: the other item, and i think this is what it's the american people most of all, i think the american people would like to see this bill put on the internet -- i think this is what gets the american people most of all. you are going to vote on it, but we should all be able to see it, and it takes nothing to put it on the internet so we could all see it. >> we should have the minimum of 72 hours. that is what we are asking for. that would give everyone in america the opportunity to see at least some of what is in the bill. the people who write this bill can really very some things in it, but we would have a good idea -- can really barry -- bur y some things in it.

greta: the judges are called activist because they cannot figure it out, and then we have more troubles. it might be good to write it so that we can all understand it. >> that is exactly what we should do. greta: thank you, sir. thank you, sir. >> greta, thank you. greta: some democrats think illegal immigrants should get medical coverage in the new health-care bill, not legal immigrants. some people have written letters to speaker pelosi. it said illegal immigrants should buy into a government-run health-care plan. why? a congressman is signed the plan joins us. why should illegal people here in the united states have the ability to buy into the program -- a congresswoman who signed

the plan joins us. >> good evening. first of all, let me say that nancy pelosi has already committed to the question you posed in the last section, that it will be, the legislation, on the internet for the american people to save for at least 72 hours before they vote on it. greta: the senate is what i am grumbling about, and i certainly am grateful to speaker pelosi on that, so you are actually right. >> and as the bill comes back from the senate in a conference, the american people will have the opportunity to see the full and final bill, as well, but over the past weekend, in my city, the fourth largest city in the nation, a famous personality but a medical professional dr. oz was here holding an open session, and to thousand people came to get -- and 2,000 people showed up to

get health care. this is to ensure that all americans, all individuals within our boundaries, are required to buy health insurance. the more the merrier, and the healthier the merrier, because that will provide for resources to self pay for all of the americans who have catastrophic illnesses and sicknesses and long-term chronic illnesses that need health insurance. greta: here is what i do not understand. americans, yes, they should be able to, at least in my opinion, have access to whatever bill. people legally in the united states. people who are illegally in the united states, what are they even here? if we can identify them for insurance purposes, maybe we can identify them to get them out of here, and if they want to come back illegally, they can, and maybe they should get the boot to or end up in jail for

violating the law. why should they be part of the largess of the american people in terms of health-care insurance? >> i will answer that since texas as the largest number of people of uninsured. houston county has the largest number of individuals in a city that are not insured, but the premise is that the more people in the system, the more they will be a burden, and the answer to your question is his illness and disease and epidemics are not a respecter of status. the premise of what i signed the letter for is that it allows for those in this country may be undocumented to buy insurance in exchange that is unsubsidized, so they are using their own money. this is not something where the federal government is paying for it. this is where individuals are allowed to buy the insurance. greta: congresswoman, here is

the problem read to do that, we become a there's and abettors for people -- here is the problem. to do that, we become aiders and abettors. >> these are valid points, and i know these will be raised by the american people. criminal aliens, people who are here to do us harm x -- as you know, we have another challenge before us to fix the broken system -- people who are here to do us harm. they are returned back to their country. but what we are dealing with right now are millions of individuals who are working and paying taxes, and they are in this country, and if there is immigration reform, they may end up getting access to being here. i do not think we can wait for 18,000 people to die because

they do not have insurance. we cannot wait another 60 years, and, frankly, there are too many people dying because they do not have insurance, and we have a h1n1 pandemic, and i believe americans are sensible enough to know that we are already paying for, in essence, uncompensated care for citizens or non- citizens who go into hospitals and do not have insurance. we cannot wait, and the only promise that i signed the letter, he and others likewise signed the letter, for healthy individuals to come in and buy insurance on subsidized by any federal dollars, so, really, -- unsubsidized by any federal dollars, and we do not ask for their status. greta: no. 1, if something is catastrophic, we always accept them at the emergency room, and if someone is in a bad car

accident, but the point i am trying to make to you is if we foster illegal behavior, it is going to foster more illegal behavior. >> i absolutely agree with you. we are going to engage in the immigration reform that addresses this, but we have the pending h1n1 epidemic or pandemic as it may be, an illness is not a respected. we have got to address this question -- and illness is not a respecter. greta: thank you. up next, is a conspiracy out to destroy a president obama? president clinton answers that question -- out to destroy a president obama? -- destroyed president -- destroy president

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clinton still says the vast right-wing conspiracy still exists. that is a phrase that former fourth lady hillary clinton terms. president clinton was asked -- this is the phrase that former first lady hillary clinton coined. >> is as virulent as it was. they are saying things about him -- it is as virulent as it was. but it is not really good for the republicans, what is going on now. they may be hurting president obama. they can take his number is down and his opposition up, but fundamentally, he and his team have a positive agenda for america. their agenda seems to be to have him to fail, and that is not a good agenda for america. greta: is that true? joining us is tucker carlson. i should say that he was asked

that question by david gregory. >> on the one hand, what are you going to say if you are bill clinton? are you going to disavow something your wife said? greta: it is the same. >> here is what bothers me about it, and bill clinton has been working on being more reasonable and less partisan than when he was president, but this is an opportunity to delegitimize this. if you criticize obama, you are not a racist or a conspiracists. -- a conspiracist. greta: this is different than accusing someone of murder. one is way off of the charts. >> i certainly remember when the former president was accused of

murder. i watched people say that. i thought it was crackpot then, and i think it was a crackpot now, and people have been saying things like that about president bush. avastin and of people disagree with any president are ordinary people -- a vast amount of people who disagree with any president are ordinary people. by the way, i think the former president is giving the right wing, whatever that is, way too much credit. i think is well known that conservatism has been not well coordinated. greta: is there a vast left-wing conspiracy out there? or has there been? >> on both sides, there are rich people who help fund political movements, right? they fund think tanks. is that a conspiracy? no, it is a group of like-minded people in both sides.

you are allowed to do that. greta: having a different philosophy and disagreeing and just getting down and dirty, is that just not where the creeps are? >> there are a ton of creeps in politics. i do not have to tell you one. you are here. you were never a creep. this is self-defeating, and smart people know that. we have seen the pendulum swing back and forth, but most people object extremism. if you say something like that, people write you off. greta: at least if you step up to it and identify yourselves. >> if you say it on television, i will respect you, even if you are crazy. greta: and sometimes, we all are. tucker, st. you. it is not just the iranian uranium enrichment plant --

tucker, thank you. and later, acorn has trouble, but guess what? so does bank of america. it turns out that acorn and bank of america are in business together. and the undercover videos? that was only the beginning. that was only the beginning.

[captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- greta: well, there is dangerous news out of iran, that they now of missiles capable of reaching israel and some bases. this comes on news that iran has been building a uranium enrichment plant. talks have gone on between iran and six other countries, including the united states, and ambassador bolton joins us. robert gibbs describe the testing as provocative. -- described the iranian testing as provocative. is this something they came up with to sort of thumb their nose at us? >> i suspect it was planned ahead of time. it was launched on yom kippur, the holiest day in the jewish calendar, and i think that was a happy give that they thought they had. -- gift.

greta: for the uranium enrichment and the meeting coming up this week, and the missiles they were testing today, but one thing that i do not hear much about is the iranian tentacles around the world but they have business interests in venezuela, senecal. they are building up around the world. >> there is support for terrorism, but their connection in venezuela is very worrying. venezuela, will ship them refined petroleum products, which they need, which will break any sanctions, and they have things they can sell to iran for the nuclear program. they can have weapons deals with each other, so there are a lot of possibilities there, none of them good. greta: giving them technology for this nuclear weapon. >> going back some years, china clearly was. now, they denied any reason dealings with either nuclear

technology -- the last 10 years, but there are a lot of scientists, especially from the former soviet union who are out of work now if you have probably found their way to iran, with some high-paying jobs in the nuclear ballistic missile field. greta: what about a.q. khan? a big supplier? >> a.q. khan was a big supplier. there is no doubt about it. we know he supplied things to north korea and libya, and there is every reason to believe he did that to iran, as well. greta: if sanctions are imposed, and the talks do not go well this week, do you expect help, and secondly, do you think the iranian people thinking it is us doing something to them or their own government doing something to them? >> well, i think even if another sanctions resolution can be obtained from the security council, it will be just as water down as the first three,

and i do not see sanctions succeeding. let's take a look at what the sanctions should do, stop them from doing in these weapons. can they get iran off of the nuclear path? , i do not see that happening. for i think with the dissent in the streets of iran after the fraudulent june 12 election, the iranian people are sophisticated enough to know that the islamic revolution, ahmadinejad and all of the ayatollahs, not them. >greta: with the june 12 election, we saw all of the discord in the streets, and if that is true, then there could be impact. >> inside and outside iran. i think anything we can do to explain where the problem is, and it is particularly with the leadership, the regime would be helpful. greta: what kind of sanctions would you suggest? >> i do not think sanctions would work.

greta: what do you think will come out of it if sanctions are voted? >> i think banking sanctions may be some, tightening of trade restrictions. i think it is very unlikely that security council who will pass an embargo on the exporters' supplies of petroleum into iran, and if you do not get this worldwide, there will be -- greta: if it is not hermetically sealed or cut off the country. >> exactly. greta: let's go to honduras. >> more good news. greta: honduras, the interim leader there, they have the ousted leader who is holed up in the embassy there. the interim leader has apparently shut down some media. that is not good. my characterization, you have a bizarre telephone call from the ousted leader from the brazilian embassy to the u.n. >> that is the first time i have

for that kind of address to the u.n. general assembly, but i think the behavior of zelaya before that has raised some questions. he says he is being besieged in the embassy by israel in mercenaries who are firing some kind of rays on him to affect his health, and that is delusional, and this goes to the idea that he had napoleonic aspirations in honduras, but more specifically, by saying that the israelis are after him, i think we are seeing a real street of anti-semitism -- he did not say they are gruesbeck mercenaries. it is the jews, -- it is not like they say they are other mercenaries. it could be somebody who is probably anti-semitic. we ought to know more about that, and i think the state department should be pressed on that point. greta: why should the u.s. care

about honduras? they are a small country. they are -- is a because they are our friends? >> honduras, like a lot of other latin american countries, they fear strongtdú( + it really can affect the security of the united states. this is a much bigger issue than people think. if we look at hugo chavez, and we think the man is a clown. he might be a clown, but he is worse than that. he is a threat, and we have to

take him seriously. credit ahmadinejad and the russians. >> and the russians. -- greta: ahmadinejad and the russians. >> and the russians. greta: and acorn has a new problem tonight. but guess what? so does bank of america. they have been doing business with acorn. plus, the venice when the dictator hugo chavez hits on a female rock star -- this venezuelan dictator hugo chavez hits on a female rock star. pothole:h no...your tire's all flat and junk. oh, did i do that? here, let me get my cellular out - call ya a wrecker. ...oh shoot...i got no phone

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america's at 18%. that is much worse than the total unemployment rate 9.7%. our senior economic writer has more information. >> i have two teenage boys. one of every four teenagers are looking for a job. greta: looking for a job. >> we have a lot of teenagers trying to work today. it is a bad thing when only a few teenagers can get a job. the evidence is very clear that when teenagers work when they are young, they have higher earnings potential later. one of the reasons we are seeing a big surge in the last couple

of months in the unemployment rate is because congress raise the minimum wage. i do not think they are worth that much. i know these kids. we should have a $5 and our teenager minimum-wage. greta: it is also because of the economy. >> of course. the unemployment rate is going up a lot faster for teenagers than adults in the last couple of months. what you're doing is you are cutting off some of the jobs. do you remember the first job you had? greta: i worked at a bank. >> you show up.

greta: i hated it. it was horrible. >> my first job was working in a factory. i remember being a senior in high school and not wanting to do this for the rest of my life. i think it is a real tragedy that you have so many young people out of work. we see more unemployment rate numbers come out on friday. there is some good news. the claims are down. the numbers came out last time to 9.7. greta: mr. ganic, nevada, they were of their -- michigan and nevada, they were up there. you have to look at the individual states. >> nevada, california, a lot of

the state's with housing probles have seen the most unemployment. let's talk about something positive. did you look at the stock market today? it went way up. an incredible market rally. greta: why? >> i do not know. we have a falling dollar and a rising budget deficit. i am kind of thinking that we may see a double dip because i think stock values are so high right now. greta: people look at the stock market to see how well the economy is doing. if you have money in the stock market and you are hovering around minimum wage, it is not bringing in a sense that we are in a debt situation. >> exactly. a recovery is when you get the jobs back. for the vast majority of

americans, we have not seen that. profits are up, jobs are usually the last thing to come up. the credit crisis is over. the idea -- greta: we were circling. >> but we are not seem major banks fail like a domino effect. greta: what about someone that is unemployed looking for a job -- i read about a person who has been unemployed for months and she got enough money to go to a job interview in milwaukee, spending $10 on gas and the people cannot show up for the interview. she wasted your money on gas. we give these great news stories. >> when small businesses start to thrive again and this is my complaint about the stimulus bill, we have been doing nothing

to help small businesses. 70% of all new jobs come from the small-business. greta: is nothing being done for the small business in the stimulus? >> nothing. big insurance companies and a lot of government jobs, but there was nothing. greta: what is going to happen? we are going to run out of stimulus money at some point. >> i think they should stop spending the money. greta: if jobs are created typically buy small-business this and we are not doing anything to help small businesses, that is a serious defect. >> i would say so. the worst thing you could do right now is to raise taxes on small businesses. if they do it in the health-care

bill or repeal the bush tax cuts, that will hurt small businesses. we talked last week when joe biden said it is working better than his wildest dreams. i think americans should be nervous about this economy. i do not think we are out of the woods. greta: i do not care how well the stock market does, we are not out of the recovery. >> i agree. greta: i do not think these two boys will ever get to work after the recommendation you gave on minimum wage. thank you. here is a look ahead at what is coming up on the show after this. >> when president obama is doing wrong in iran and afghanistan. and the roman polanski arrest. greta: up next, you thought the undercover videos where that?

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fire for hiding $3.60 billion in bonuses from shareholders has just announced it is suspending its work with acorn, and they say they are not going to do any more business with them until their review is complete. joining us is a managing editor for "the washington times," and, of course, the question that goes there everyone's minds, what took bank of america so long? >> well, bank of america was whacked by three members from the house financial services committee. the three of them wrote to all 14 of the financial institutions that had been working with acorn. acorn has an affiliate called acorn housing, with 250 or so employees around the country. they offer advice to poor people about how to avoid foreclosure on their homes, so they were close with lenders, like bank of

america. greta: not saying that acorn is a crack, or whatever, but there are enough red flags, and then u.s. bank of america and their $3.60 billion in bonuses, he tried to settle with the sec, and some jenna bush -- and their $3.60 billion in bonuses, and they try to settle with the sec, and some judge said no. it was a little late. they should have been doing them when they are tossing out the cash. >> acorn has also been receiving tens of millions of dollars over the years from the federal government to provide this kind of foreclosure counseling, and so, i am sure the federal government -- they looked at the situation of people who came before them and suggested pay at

periods, i believe, things like that -- and suggested pay out periods. there was the u.s. house voted to cut off all funding for acorn. that should have been a leading indicator to bank of america, which has $45 billion of u.s. backing through the tarp fund, that because they had so much federal tax money, maybe they should be careful about where that money is going. greta: bank of america executives, because it was not taxpayer money, that they care about shareholder money? these are people to shelled out $3.60 billion during the takeover of merrill lynch -- visa the people who shelled that money out. -- these are the people. >> i know that is a rhetorical question. i think bank of america is not

going to be the last of the bank's -- banks that will abandon acorn housing. what we have seen up to this point is the federal government turning its back on a court because of the videos, which i know your viewers know very well -- turning its back on acorn because of the videos. their private sector partners -- that is real trouble for acorn, as if they did not have enough already. greta: there are a lot of people who could use foreclosure advise. there in lies the real crime. they could to acorn or somebody else for advice -- there are a lot of people who could use foreclosure and vice -- advice. therein lies the real crime. >> the purpose is to help people who are impoverished or who have little means and therefore do

not have people to speak for them, but that has grown over the years into something that its critics say has become quite a disorganization. greta: these as shareholders and bank of america or people who have their savings wrapped up in bank of america, and they would expend bank of america to not be dishing out these bonuses. maybe they are good bonuses, but they hid them from the shareholders. you would think that they are carefully monitoring them, not just writing checks which the shareholders' -- which of the shareholders -- with the shareholders' money. anyway, jeff, thank you. and there is big news here tonight in washington about a controversial national security program. four democratic senators would issue legislation that would retroactively repeal immunity for companies that worked with the government on its

warrantless wiretapping program. right now, the companies have immunity for any violation of privacy, but that could change as the following senators get their way. senator chris dodd, wes feingold, and others. they are introducing this legislation. they are looking to see if their customers and rights were violated. we will let you know. and up next, the best of the rest. get that machine out. an f bomb that dropped on tv. he didn't prove do not look at me. i did not do it. -- i did not do it. do not look at me. and hugo chavez. speaking of girlfriends, the most famous polar bear and the world has a new girlfriend.

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greta: you have seen our top story, but here is the best of the rest. you never know what is going to happen on light t d -- live tv.

a new person on "saturday night live" said this. >> who is your first guest? >> it is to always is. my best friend, donna. -- who will always is. >> get a bayberry candle. >> you know what? you just threw an ashtray at my head. you know what? [beep] >> you're in my heart. you are in my heart. greta: oops. she will not forget her first appearance on "saturday night live," and if you could not tell from that bleeped out word, it was teh he f word.

and the bear canut is all grown up. the polar bears are not quite ready to mate, but they are getting along. and venezuelan dictator hugo chavez has something with the late kurt kobain. he was hitting on his widow, courtney love, at the premiere of a new movie. "the new york daily news" says that he was a sex the dog. he invited me to visit his country, and i would like to go -- he was a sexy dog. and putting it on vibrate when you go to the broadway show. some actors were performing when someone in the audience let his cell phone rang twice. the actress did not let it slide, and tmz, the reaction.

-- tmz has the reaction. [phonee rings] >> you want to get that? you want to get that? [phone rings] [laughter] come on. please, turn it off. , on? -- come on. [applause] can you get that? [phone rings] [laughter] [applause]

don't be embarrassed. you got it? all right. great. greta: and there you have it, the best of the rest, but still ahead, your last call, one more quick thing before we turn down the lights. and making headlines, sort of. and making headlines, sort of.

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greta: 11:00 is almost here. flash the studio lights, last call. mahmoud ahmadinejad had a rough week in new york. he got snubbed in fancy a places all over new york city, and then, "saturday night live" skewer him. >> after the revelation that they had built a nuclear facility, they have been cheated three times, and they were caught three dies. the nickname of ahmadinejad is now being called the jon gosslin of the middle east. gra: