>> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. >> julie: i'm julie bandaras, welcome back to a new hour of america's news headquarters, mahmoud ahmadinejad accusing president obama of making a historic mistake, in saying iran has broken nuclear regulations and this, as british intelligence says, iran is spurg a nuclear arsenal, we'll find out what is next in dealing with

the nuclear iran. >> gregg: i search for survivors in the earthquake avenue vantaged nation of indonesia and what rescuers are encountering in the remote villages, goes to the center of that quake. >> julie: a bloody day in afghanistan, deaths of two american soldiers after an afghan policeman fired on them and there is little sign the violence will ease up soon, the news as president obama currently considering whether to send monther troops to the region and met with the top man on the ground, general stanley mcchrystal who is asking the president to send up to 40,000 new troops over to afghanistan. and this was a quick meeting. as you can see, there, in the picture aboard air force one in denmark, and called, quote, helpful by the white house, and molly henneberg is live in washington, molly, what do we know about the meeting? >> reporter: julie, the white house says it was a productive meeting as the president and general mcchrystal spent 25 minutes in private talks, aboard air force one yesterday. and president 0 obama, was about to return to washington, from

copenhagen, and general mcchrystal had given a speech, thursday, in london, and they went ahead and met in denmark and mcchrystal is expected to ask for 40,000 troops in afghanistan, and, he likely continues -- continued to make his case for a surge of troops and president obama has not committed publicly to increasing boots on the ground as he reviews his military strategy in afghanistan. and although he did send 21,000 troops, earlier this year. julie. >> julie: general mcchrystal says and i'm quoting here, the situation is deteriorating. is the word he uses. what does that mean? what does he mean. >> reporter: he's definitely sounding the alarm, julie, the insurgency is growing of the taliban and getting stronger and wants a renewed focus on counterinsurgency efforts and listen to this: >> the situation is serious and i choose that word very, very carefully. i also say that neither success, or failure, for our endeavor there in support of the afghan people, and the government, can

be taken for granted. >> general mcchrystal said, on thursday. and there are 100,000 foreign troops in afghanistan, and about 60,000 of those are u.s. servicemen and women. julie. >> julie: molly henneberg, thank you very much. gregg. >> gregg: i deadly 24 hours for american forces, in afghanistan. five u.s. soldiers have been killed, in a string of attacks across this country. and, among the most serious, ambush in the eastern province. and an afghan policeman on a joint patrol with american soldiers, opened fire, killing two americans, and the rising death toll comes as afghanistan is still sorting out the disputed results, from the presidential election and connor powell, was the policeman a member of the taliban or police officer at all? >> reporter: afghanee officials describe the gunman as wearing

an afghan police uniform and in plying, maybe he was not a member of the police, but authorities all say they know his identity and have several m f family members in custody and there is a growing concern the taliban is infiltrating the police an military and the security service on the whole are largely considered corrupt, and dysfunctional. and, the taliban could be targeting these institutions as a way of targeting international, but, particularly, u.s. soldiers and this type of incident, is happening more and more, just last month, a -- an afghan police officer shot and wounded a u.s. soldier, after an argument, and there is concern that this is the type of incident that just sort of proves how unreliable the afghan security services are, and just how far they have to go, before they can take responsibility here for the security in afghanistan. gregg. >> gregg: connor, quickly, afghans went to the polls, about 7 weeks ago and why isn't this

elect election decided yet? >> reporter: well, from day one, this election has been marred by allegations of fraud. and president karzai is accused of stuffing the ballots, rigging the vote, and, now, today the top challenger, dr. abdullah abdullah is accusing the u.n. of essentially enabling president karzai and covering up the fraud and the corruption, and he accusing the top u.n. envoy, of essentially sweeping the corruption under the rug. and he wants a full investigation and wants the dirty votes thrown out, and the u.n. and other election officials, seem to be resist tent and it is a serious problem and could take several weeks before the election is finally resolved. >> gregg: connor powell reporting live in kabul, thanks very much. julie. >> julie: digging as fast as they can in indonesia and rescuers hoping to pull as many survivors as possible, from the rubble left behind an earthquake and landslide and the quake striking the city, northwest of

jakarta and had a magnitude of 7.6, hundreds, perhaps thousands of people believed to be buried under mud and debris with entire villages wiped away. a -- our sister network, sky news, has the report. >> reporter: the devastated set of pa dang knows time is running out. for many all they can do is watch and wait. the cleanup operation has begun, and this pile of wreckage and rubble was once a hotel. i received a text at about 3:00, yesterday. there are 8 people trapped inside. they said, please don't make the machinery go any further, it will squeeze us. >> reporter: elsewhere, the search for senior advisors continued. overwhelmed rescue workers have a huge job ahead of them. it is now three days since the 7.6 magnitude earthquake, hit indonesia.

>> just a couple hours ago we're able to find the conference room where 40 people were trapped and went in there and found basically one victim still already passed away there, and we are now locking to follow the corridor, where people had exited the room and basically looking for people that were hanging out of the building there. >> reporter: the early hours this morning, a royal air force c-17 set off from raf in oxfordshire and carrying 17 tons of aid and 50 rescue and search experts, and the indonesian vice president was not hopeful on a visit, and another town that was badly hit by the quake. he told waiting reporters he believed people trapped and buried in buildings are unlikely to have survived. >> translator: most people are trapped and buried inside buildings. >> reporter: makeshift tents shelter these women and

children. many are hungry. and have fallen victim to profiteers who raised prices of water and other essentials. their houses have been destroyed, and there is nowhere else for them to go. several countries have pledged aid and certainty emergency teams to the area. but, with roadblocks, power lines down, and patchy communications networks, the rescue mission is going ton arduous. the red cross says that aerial photos suggest the disaster zone extended much further than first thought. with some villages completely destroyed. the wait for news of mission loved ones is agonizing. she was going up her hotel room at half-4 and the quake hit a quarter past 5:00 and i don't know what happened to her since. despite the scale of this disaster, many are clinging to the hope that miracles will happen. sky news, pa dang.

>> reporter: more than 30,000 homes, schools, hospitals and other buildings were demolished or severely damaged. aid is now beginning to pour in from around the world. >> gregg: all right, you know the calendar says october, but is really is looking more like winter, out west. an early snowstorm moving across the mountain west as well as the rockies, look at these pictures, the black hills of south dakota getting the first taste of winter, get your ski boots out, julie! the snowfall could pile up, spelling trouble, though, across the region, and meteorologist domenica davis is live in the fox weather center, with more on that. hi, domenica. >> really could. and they'll be looking at over a foot of snow, come the end of sunday. so, really, the storm is just starting to get going, through the cass skadz and the northern rockies by tomorrow and will filter in cooler air, all the way down to the south as well, and place likes arizona, and the western parts of arizona, and you are going to be looking at

windy conditions and unfortunately, that will not be great for the fire concerns that are going on there right now. but, here's what we are looking at as far as the snowfall go, temperatures are pretty cool out here, and that is translating to snow in the highest elevations and through parts of oregon we'll see over a foot of snow, as i mentioned, by sunday, and then, this system will shut off, and this is really the first big storm of the season, you can see, where that cool pocket of air is through montana and seattle, 53 and temperatures will drop overnight and phoenix, how far the cooler air is going, the jetstream, 87 degrees, for the current temperature, highs today will only make it into the 90s and a little bit of a cool off and will stick around at least the next couple of days there with those winds, getting upwards of about 45 miles per hour with wind gusts. so, it will be windy through the rest of the weekend, as well. greg. >> gregg: hang onto your hats and toupees! domenica davis, thanks. julie. >> julie: all right, well, the

health care debate. it is getting down to the nitty-gritty and if you think it has been heated, well, just wait! it could get hotter. there is a chance the senate finance committee will pass health care by mid-week, and that is -- then to the full debate in both houses after that. will we see any bipartisan support, for a bill that president obama wants passed by year's end? is it possible for fair and balanced debate? we'll bring in republican congresswoman judy biggert and then john i can't remember mutt of k -- john yarmouth and, the republicans have the not been on board with the president's health care plan and any chance we'll see bipartisan support by year's end? >> you know, we were always hopeful, but, i think that the other side of the aisle, just chose to do it alone, and, never wanted to work with us, didn't

really come and ask us to be part of it from the beginning, and i think that that really set a bad precedent and i think -- but on the other hand, you know, there really is a fundamental difference, between our side of the aisle and their side of the aisle on the issue and they want a systematic change in the whole health care system and we think we can do health care reform with out changing the whole system, without taking away what 85% of the american people want and that is to keep the health care plan they have, and, then bring in the other 15%. and, i think we look at making changes just as far as controlling costs, and making sure that there is no reexisting conditions, to block their health care, and portability, so that they can change jobs. rather than all of the changing it dramatically. >> julie: congressman, it doesn't seem there is compromise at least from republicans' standpoint and they say democrats have not listened or reached out to them and have not

been taking any of their ideas into consideration, and whether you believe that or not what will democrats do between now and january to come up with a compromise if they think they can come up with one on the hotly contested public option, the hotly contested public option number one, issue, that is obviously not getting anywhere, the bill is not moving. >> well, actually the bill is, i think moving fine, in the house and we're going to pass the bill ate a robust public option and it is 65% of the american people said they wanted in a -- a week-and-a-half ago, in a poll and the thing i'm -- judy and i have worked together on important pieces of legislation, this education bill and we know what it is to be bipartisan, but in the health care debate, it is pretty clear, the republicans have been very explicit about the it, the strategy is to try and kill any health care reform, because they know that if we can do what the american people want to us do, which is to provide us sustainable, affordable health care system that makes people

secure and stable in their -- with their health care issues, that it will be a -- not be -- just be a great victory for the american people and a great victory for democrats, and they don't wanted to us have that and have chosen to be obstructionist as possible, and, it is a shame, but, we really don't have too much in common on this, and we all say, we pay lip service to the idea that we want to ban preexisting conditions and ratings and so forth and the truth of the mattered is i have yet to hear a republican, maybe judy will be the exception, whatever we did on the bill they would vote for health care reform and we advanced in the house and i hand heard one republican say that, given certain things they would vote for it and that is a shame. >> julie: congresswoman, would you vote for it? >> okay, well, nice to be with you, john, but, i think i -- this issue, you are right, we don't agree. but, you know, i would... i would like to, however, i don't think it is the right bill, and

i think that the -- you will have a hard time passing this bill. i think it is going to have to -- nancy pelosi and harry reid have to be out there strong arming some of your members, because you've got such a diverse group from the progressive liberals to the blue dogs and i think the blue dogs or the ones that will have problems with this bill and they are those moderates that are 49 of you are in districts that were won by john mccain and it is a different constituency they have there and i know, we saw this summer, some of the hard times to go home, and, meet with their constituents, when i don't think a lot of the -- lot of them agree with the bill that has been proposed. >> julie: i have to say a lot of democrats are complaining they don't have nancy pelosi's support, she is not necessarily backing them and they are afraid when they go to vote it could backfire, midterm elections and you need your leaders to support. i mean, your party, that is --

into right. >> julie: kind of -- >> and so i think -- julie, that is what i think it will be passed with one or two votes, because, they'll let people off, that, you know, have a constituency that doesn't believe in the issue, as proposed. >> julie: all right, congresswoman -- thank you very much and congressman, we appreciate you as well coming on the phone, thank you both. >> caller: good to be with you. >> gregg: a "fox news alert." we're just learning now, there is an earthquake in taiwan, magnitude 6.1. and, there is no immediate reports of any damage or casualties, but it is early, still and this is of course an island that has been racked by earthquakes, regularly, because they are very close, if not on top of two tectonic plates that often shift, but, we'll continue to follow that. also, there were a bunch of earthquakes the last several days in central california and we'll have more on these developing stories as details warrant. julie. >> julie: the u.s. and great

britain, the closest of allies and when it comes to looking at iran the two countries are the not quite hone same pain and we'll find out why they are split, over how to deal with iran's nuclear program. >> gregg: mahmoud ahmadinejad, a serial holocaust see near and an enemy of israel and now, there is new evidence he should rethink of his hatred of jews, a shocking report from a newspaper, coming up next.

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>> gregg: i difference -- a difference of opinion, british intelligence agencies believe iran is actively pushing ahead with the plan to make nuclear weapons but the u.s. sticking to its original assessment that iran stopped work on a weapons program back in 2003. and the opposing views coming on the heels of the disclosure of iran's secret nuclear facility, if they are both seeing the same intel why are they coming to dramatically different conclusions, joining me, jim walsh an expert on international

security at the mit security studies program, jim, thanks. let me -- >> good to be with you, gregg. >> gregg: i'll put up on the screen the bottom line of the november '07 national intelligence estimate: "we judge with high confidence -- high confidence, mind you -- in the fall of 2003, tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." would that nie assessment -- was it wrong? >> no, i don't think so. i think most of the evidence supports this position, and, you heard leon panetta as recently as a couple of weeks ago, reaffirm the conclusion. now, is there agreement in yes, there is disagreement between american and british officials and maybe between american and israeli officials, but, let's be clear, about what that disagreement is. it's not as if britain or israel has a gotcha piece of evidence that says, look we can prove this. instead they are all looking at the same evidence and they are drawing somewhat different

conclusions. and so, it's not as if there is a smoking gun where you can prove one side is interpreting it correctly and the other is not. >> gregg: defense secretary robert gates, was asked directly, is there any doubt in your mind that the newly disclosed facility is -- qum facility is configured to produce nuclear weapons fuel and he said absolutely, it is. how could you square that with the nie assessment? >> yeah, well, i have tremendous respect for secretary gates and has been often the adult in the room in a lot of these policy conversations over the last men years but is not an intel analyst and doesn't know much about nuclear with all due respect. we don't know how the plant is configured and it is coor curious to say it's con fiing guard in a way that can only produce highly-enriched uranium. >> gregg: isn't it too small for commercial use, leaving -- >> that is a different issue and there are two issues and one

this is size of the facility, which is not yet completed construction and then the way it is configured with whatever number of centrifuges it has and now the argument says there are only 3,000 centrifuges in there and what could you possibly be doing, other than producing highly-enriched uranium for a bomb but look at the white house talking points that were released on the day of the disclosure, it said in the white house, the talking points, that that facility could be used for centrifuge research and development, or, it could be used for production of highly-enriched uranium and you know, we don't know and won't know until the international atomic energy agency gets in l and looks at it and it may be they decided to set up lots of little plants that bring together the smaller batches of low enriched uranium for use, farther in the -- >> gregg: jim -- >> may be breaking it up because they fear -- >> gregg: in the first direct talks in geneva iran allegedly

promised they will deliver their low enriched uranium to economist countries outside of iran. you don't believe that. they are not going to do that, are they and aren't they doing what they've always done and making vacuous, empty promises to buy time to continue to develop a weapon program? >> well, i wouldn't prejudge and be quick on that one, gregg and number one, it seems odd they would offer to do it, if they weren't going to go through with it and you remember, they offered before, in 2003 to suspend enrichment almost two years and did that. and we'll wait and see. we have a short timeline here. they are supposed to meet one another month, the p-5 plus one meeting with iran and the six countries plus iran. if iaea, the international atomic energy agency is not in the plan, they won't have the meeting -- >> gregg: but iran's ambassador -- >> kept the promise -- >> gregg: the day after the geneva promise to deliver the

low enriched uranium abroad, the iranian ambassador to britain, who is a member of the iranian delegations involved in the negotiations, said, no, no, no, we will not do that. so, i mean, all it took was one day, for them to reverse their stance and their promise. >> yeah, i -- again that is not what the government seems to be saying. but, that -- they may have changed their mind and there may be confusion within the iranian delegation. and -- >> gregg: i don't know how two sides could be in the same room with all of the other witnesses and, they both have diametrically opposed views of what was discussed and promised, and i don't get it. >> the most important person in the delegation is the lead negotiator for iran, and it is point of view that mattering most and we'll find out and there are two possibilities and the next couple of weeks they let the ners in and they begin to make progress, on that commitment, or they don't. and, if they don't, then they

will not have a follow-up meeting at the end of the month and the p-5 plus one will proceed with the alternative course and you know, it is pretty simple, at this point, and we'll know, fairly soon, which way it will go. >> gregg: simplicity is not a simple concept, jim walsh we'll leave it at that and wait and see. especially when dealing with the iranians. good to see you, thanks. into thanks, gregg. >> julie: and speaking of mahmoud ahmadinejad here's a bombshell, probably never would have figured this, turns out his family's previous name was jewish. new documents reveal his family was known as... a jewish name meaning cloth we'ver and the evidence shows his family probably changed and changed the name to mahmoud ahmadinejad where they converted to embrace islam and he has made verbal attacks about jews and denying the holocaust ever happened. >> gregg: watch out for

five-year-old simon hughes who killed an 800 pound alligator, and earned the place in history, the story you have got to see to believe. separate ahead.

>> julie: here's the stories making headlines for you today.

here, a spanish fishing vessel hijacked by pirates in the indian ocean, has been spotted and appears all 36 crewmembers are safe. and spain's government says pirates boarded the boat early friday, when it was 800 miles away. from the nearest navy escort. >> gregg: and completely wiped out, look at this, officials in end news yeah say nothing remains of four villages, hit by a massive earthquake, this weekend and the death toll likely to double, as rescue crews try to reach those rural communities, as many as 600 people believed to be buried after the quake triggered landslides. >> and death toll expected to rise following a series of mudslides in italy. so far, 20 people have died, in the city of messina and 40 people are still missing. >> gregg: developments surrounding the terror plot in new york city and the father of the main suspect is fighting back. he is challenging the fed to report -- who reported his telephone conversations saying

they had no right to do it. really? laura ingle is live in our new york city newsroom with more. laura? >> reporter: mohammed zazi's attorney, ed harris, filed a motion saying the government didn't have a legal right to record a phone call between zazi and a new york area imam and in the call he warned the elder zazi, the police had been asking questions, about his son. and mohammed zazi is charged as you know with lying to investigators, about that conversation. and the charge that could eventually bring him 8 years in prison if he is found guilty, and zazi's attorney says they don't know exactly what portion of that call was used for zazi's arrest, because the wiretap was done under the foreign intelligence surveillance act. and mohammed zazi is scheduled to have a preliminary hearing, on the case, on friday. and, now, this building we want to show is is the focus of a lot of surveillance activity this week, the home of a man, naeed khan, a friend of the younger

zazi who let him stay at his place and he is getting attention from the investigators and says, he has nothing to hide and is cooperating with the fbi. and meanwhile, investigators here in new york eyeball other alleged coconspirators in the case, though none have been identified, publicly, and sources indicate the fbi is searching for at least three other suspects, who may have been working, with zazi. in court this week, naijbullah zazi, has denied all allegation against him, in federal court to face the charges of conspiracy, to use the weapon of mass destruction and investigators believe he was on the verge of making a bomb of chemicals to be used in a terror attack in new york city. naijbullah zazi is expected to be back in court, on december 3rd. we continue to follow the case. >> gregg: laura ingle in new york, thanks. >> reporter: thank, gregg. >> julie: a lot of americans say america is pulling out of the recession. just don't ask the guy pounding the pavement looking for a job. there is a you lot of those guys and over 15 million. and men and women unemployed and the latest data from feds shows the unemployment rate now

sitting at the.8%. that is after job losses, from september piled on and more than a quarter of a million more, than expected. and the jobless rate now at the highest level since the recession of 1983. and what is -- with the recession coming to an end, where are the jobs? michael seymore, is president of uni-private wealth strategies, thanks for talking to us. if there are no jobs and we're nowhere near over the worst, the worst is not behind us. >> well, i couldn't agree with you more, the last time that i was here, three months ago we talked about the same thing and i look at my notes this morning and nothing changed and we're 15 million americans out of work and that is why every time i hear the economic recovery is well on the way or the worst is behind us, that really frosts my windshield, i'm not seeing it. the 15 million people are not all one-person households and it could be affecting 30 million people. and, if you start adding into

the fact that you might think it is 9.8% unemployment and add in the people that are, you know, really doing what they are supposed to do, getting a part-time job to fill the void, you could push 17% of real unemployment, or under employed and that is where this rubber meets the road. >> julie: if you are one of the 15.1 million americans out of work and you are watching now, you potentially face losing your home, you may have no health care insurance or you potentially face losing your health care insurance, what do you do? starting with your home? what can you do to keep your home. >> well, that is what this is really about and why i think the government has to step up here. what you have to do is, really, i'm sure many millions of americans are doing think but you have to look at your budget and you have to be proactive. you have to call your mortgage company. and try to get a loan modification and stay on top of them and stay on top of them. and, by the way, mr. president, to try to help these people, many of these loans servicing companies that aring they they

are working with millions of homeowners on loan modifications are not doing that. it is just lip service and they are not adhering to your federal mandates and same thing with your credit card bills. call your credit card companies and many of these companies are willing to reduce your interest rates, for a period of time and to get those payments lower. and nobody wants to pick up the phone and make these calls, but, pride is a wolf thing and right now, this is about survival, and this is a time of -- you have to be proactive. >> julie: you are saying you can call your mortgage lender and what can you do to affect your mortgage, to affect your interest on your mortgage. >> well, remember, what happened here is a situation where through, you know, nobody's fault but the economy here, when you first got your mortgage, whatever interest rate and credit terms we're not in that world any more an interest rates now, the fed funds rate is 25 basis points. and many people are paying 7, 8, 9% on your interest, on the interest on their mortgage, and there are federal mandates, in place, and if you -- if your

bank under the hamp, home affordable mortgage program, that clearly stipulate plates, shall we say parameters that your mortgage payment can and in many cases must be reduced, by your lender. and pick up the phone and if you don't know how to do this that is not a problem. there are many nonprofit, how to approve -- approved counselors that are glad to help you. >> julie: you have to be proactive, because obviously the banks and the mortgage lenders will not be calling you up, saying how can we help you but, also i wanted to talk about insurance and not just talk about health care, i'm talking about life insurance to protect your family. >> well, julie, this is all -- let's face it we all have a job as a result of that, let me rephrase it. if you have a job, you have income, you use that income to pay your bills and perhaps, some bills go -- some goes into savings and some pace the mortgage and credit cards and pay for life insurance or medical insurance and when you don't have the paycheck any

more, we're all grateful that the state unemployment agencies are in place, to help you out, but, think about this, for a minute. you are going to really dip into your life savings and this is why, congress, let's go. i mean, men and women in congress, we know you are trying to do the right thing but you have to step up now. >> julie: michael seymore, great to have you on, good advice. >> gregg: wonder how car companies make up all the names like corvette and camaro and firebird and mustang, or edsel. >> julie: no! >> gregg: that was a bad one, some car names are years in the making and they spend a lot of time thinking about the it and follow the strict rules, it has wild appeal and doesn't offend anybody and sometimes mistakes slip through the cracks, as steve brown, discovered. >> reporter: have you noticed, the trend is in vehicles names is letters and numbers or both. and cx-7, e-350, g-6, rdx, hhr,

the list goes on and on. and it is very much on purpose, as john howell of cadillac, who showed us cadillac's new srx. >> the alpha naming process is to potentially but three letters together we think sound good. >> reporter: like a number of car companies, cadillac tries to steer away from names that are nouns, you know, person's, places and things, though some famous cars were noun named like after animals, mustang, impala, an antelope and bug, beetle, cougar, cobra, barracuda, road runner, firebird, thunder bird and, yes, the pinto. but, these days... >> you have to be careful about the names you choose. >> reporter: for example, pontiac had the fee aerio which means fiery in spanish and ironically, they had a a tendency for engine fires. and chevy's nova in spanish means, no-go and the soon to be number one auto market in the world, china, there is new name dangers, nissan's altima outside

the u.s. is the bluebird. in mandarin, china's main dialect, bluebird is... but in another chinese dialect it means something else. >> association, it has to do with the male genitals. >> reporter: and maybe it is better to make up a car name, lexus, sebring, camry, yaris and camaro, chef vet, corvair, and chevelle, don't mean a thing in english. >> gregg: steve brown, good job. the rolls-royce, the ghost, the phantom... and the silver ghost that is what i rode in on my wedding day, i don't own it. just a day. >> gregg: rented it and i bet it cost a pretty penny! >> julie: dogs are finally having their day in church and no, it is isn't flea powder, they are blessed with holy water. and the religious event is -- in springfield, massachusetts

commemorates st. francis of aceci, known as the -- aassisi, i know, and i am no sissy, tomorrow this is day, to honor st. francis and not all of the dogs were attentive, though, to the ceremony. the minister gave blessings to around 15 dogs, 6 cats and one chicken and one guinea pig. >> gregg: all right, and he's not even 50 pounds and managed to take down an 800 pound gator. how in the world is the little kid doing, he's amazing. the story is coming up next.

>> julie: welcome back. little boys are well, are tough, and then, there are that are not tough and then, there is this boy, and he isn't afraid of anything, even alligators! especially simon hughes, yeah, he is five years old, would you believe it and the fearless little boy is making texas hunting history, for the shooting and killing an alligator. and about 20 times his size. here's reporter greg googhan of kriv. >> reporter: five-year-old simon hughes stands 3 feet-something and 44 pounds, dripping wet. and like many kids in the piney woods of texas, he can handle a

gun. >> all right. >> reporter: has been since he was four. and with good reason. >> everything out on our ranch will either bite you or stick you, basically. >> reporter: that is simon's dad, scott, who walked us down to the marshy edge of his property to prove his point. here under the murky surface, a dangerous predator has lurked. largely undetected for a good chunk of a half century, and luck would run out for the creaturerer with a single bite into a baited hook and face-to-face with a five-year-old. >> it came after the bait. >> reporter: and simon had no way of knowing the monster that popped his head out of the swamp was 20 times his size and highly hostile that it was like' prehistoric, t-rex or something jieshs and simon brought the 410 shotgun to bear and blasted. >> right behind the eye.

>> he was a champ and couldn't ask for any better. fearless. >> reporter: a small charge of bird shot hit the brain of an 800 pound beast. >> he... >> reporter: and the kindergartner conquered the second biggest gator ever taken in texas. >> i think it's in my blood. >> reporter: proof of that down the road in goodrich, where simon suddenly is the most famous of the 240 residents. and where is -- his grandparents ran the same catfish joint for the past 27 years. >> ought to have alligator on the menu the next couple weeks. >> reporter: up fronts you'll find june. >> if they knew they were in a rowboat with the gator... i couldn't function, i don't imagine. >> reporter: back with the fryers, you'll find pop. >> cook something for the family. >> reporter: as for his love of hunting, one look inside hugh's catfish and you can see he comes

by it honestly. >> we raised our boys, hunting and fishing and playing sports. >> reporter: turns out simon hughes earned himself something that may last longer than a brief stretch in the spotlight. >> your nickname is what. >> gator bait. >> reporter: and while simon's hunting and driving are all pretty impressive... >> even though you shot a 12 foot alligator you still have to... it's the law, you have to wear a seatbelt. >> it carries limited weight with it his mom. >> julie: gator bait! this is his nickname. >> gregg: we would have been gator bait if he missed. >> julie: goodness. >> gregg: if he was close enough to kill it. >> simon said he wants to bag a bigger gator next year. >> gregg: yeah. >> julie: and we thank you, to kriv for that story and by the way, simon will join us live tomorrow. >> gregg: i hear you'll talk to him. >> julie: we'll do it together and both interview him together, 4:00, the health care hour, sometime in there. >> gregg: that is scary. looking at the size of that thing!

>> julie: the gun or -- >> gregg: no. >> julie: the gator. >> gregg: the gator. >> julie: we'll ask him to bring the unloaded gun to the set, it was the size of the fire-year-old. >> gregg: and he's bringing the head of the gator with him, can't wait for that! >> julie: all right. >> gregg: as tensions simmer between iran and the rest of the world over a nuclear facility, a secret one, mahmoud ahmadinejad is calling out president obama for what he says is an historic mistake, next hour.

>> julie: the bottom to the hour, time for the top of the news, iranian president, mahmoud ahmadinejad lashing out against president obama, saying iran was not breaking international rules, by reporting and not reporting the existence of a recently revealed nuclear site.

typhoon parma is slamming the philippines and powerful winds and heavy rain ripping across this biggest island in the fill teens and two people have been killed and afghan police officer, opening fire, on u.s. troops today, killing two soldiers, and, he joined troops on a joint patrol at the time of the ab ambush and the attack happening in wardak. >> gregg: a majority of americans now believe major changes are indeed needed in the u.s. health care system according to a new poll by rasmussen reports and the question, of course, is, how do we do that? look at this, only 41% of voters say they favor the reform plan on the table right now. and, we have that, let's put it up and the same plan favored by president obama, and the democrats in congress, 56% say they oppose that plan and i think our graphics are freezing up. we'll get it for you. let's turn to scott ras moussen from rasmussen reports, and good to see you. and is that the lowest level yet

of support. >> it is this lowest level of support and we are tracking the health care bill, we saw, new numbers out on monday, and what is really amazing is how steady and how low these numbers have been, back in july, only 43% supported the plan and we have had the president and congressional leaders trying to build public support and just can't do it and as you said, it comes at a time when 54% of americans, say our health care system needs major change and 61% say it is important for congress to pass health care legislation, this year, and they'd like reform, and just don't like the bill, that is being talked about in congress right now. >> gregg: so the question is, what do they like, do they wanted a come pre-in hissive overhaul, do they want smaller reforms? you polled that and what did you find. >> by a 2-1 margin, people prefer a series of smaller reforms, that address specific problems and there is a simple reason why. half of the people with insurance say in a comprehensive plan, they are leak to be forced out of -- likely to be forced out of their existing coverage and that is the biggest thing most people fear about the

discussion. because, most americans are happy with their own health insurance coverage. >> gregg: we have been waging a couple of wars, one in iraq and another in afghanistan, and of course, there is this iranian threat. what do americans regard as the biggest national security threat? >> right now, it is iran, 32%, say that that country poses the biggest threat to us, and now a couple of months ago, when north korea was making some noises, and being vocal about their threats, north korea was on top, and, overall, americans are just unsettled about the situation, but are really focused much closer to home, paying more attention to economic issues, and domestic politics. >> gregg: with all of that going on, health care, iran, afghanistan, and, so on and so forth, the president got a bit of heat for flying off to cope en hague tone argue in favor of chicago, for the olympics. what do americans think of that? >> well, before the results came in, and before he took the trip,

36% of americans said it was a good idea. for the president to go and do this. and 43% said it was a bad idea. and, not surprisingly, there was a partisan split in those numbers. but, i think, the -- in -- look back, it will not be seen as a terribly significant event, only 15% of americans said it was important for chicago to get those games and i guess if i had a chance to get the yankees to come to my home town i would make the trip, too. >> gregg: i love it! scott, thanks very much, scott rasmussen and go to -- >> go to twittered.com/rasmussen poll. >> or rasmussenpoll.com. >> julie: or you get the personal updates on a daily basis on your blackberry. i like that. >> gregg: i like that. >> i enjoy sending them to you and glad you can give me the plugs. >> julie: anything for you, scotty! >> gregg: scotty, now, on the

intimate basis, for you, okay, scott rasmussen. >> julie: he's gagging right now! that will do it for you, i'm julie, this is gregg and we're out of here. >> gregg: such as i am. >> julie: i'll be back for the fox report and hot dance moves an roaring crowd and grandchildren. >> gregg: really. >> julie: the dance, you will not want to miss it. it is next.

>> hello, i'm juliet huddy. >> i'm rick folbaum, topping the news, iran accusing the president of making a historic mistake, over its nuclear ambitions, as the head of the u.n.'s nuclear watchdog team arrived in the country. >> a failed olympic bid and bad jobless numbers have some saying it has been a tough week for the president and we'll have a fair and balanced debate about how he's doing on all the big issues from the economy to afghanistan and our guest, the health care overhaul, if it passes, will all of this be forgotten. >> i wonder and china celebrating the 50th anniversary of the communist revolution, this week, and the massive show of force. and parades as well. should we here in the u.s. be worried? >> we'll talk about that and we begin with afghanistan. and the oba