house gets a cover-up. we'll explain. and our slogan, to watch "fox & friends" i have but an hour, i don't want to miss a minute, though, are so i installed a tv in the shower. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute -- www.ncicap.org -- gretchen: good morning. there was so much going on last night i couldn't keep it all straight. brian: sugarland, texas, tom delay. did anyone see tom delay dance, joel? you're a big "dancing with the stars" guy. gretchen: i was watching brett favre dance. go, vikings. brian: that was the football game. gretchen: i don't know if tom delay did well or not. did you watch, steve? steve: i deposit watch television at all -- didn't watch television at all. if if we can find some tom delay, we'll show it to you later. gretchen: we head to islamabad. new surveillance video just released from inside the u.n.

world food agency shows the moment right before and right after a homicide bomber murdered innocent people. a man asked to use the bathroom and passed through security. moments later the camera goes dark and you see the aftermath. the taliban claiming responsibility. several guards stationed there are in custody and being questioned. an update to the shocking case of the mom stabbed, her newborn baby then kidnapped it happened in tennessee. now the suspect is telling police she bought the baby for $25,000. the baby is safe and his three siblings are in state custody. a judge will review the case today to determine if the kids can go back in fact, with their mother. a woman who kept exotic an mald as -- animals as pets has been killed. kelly and her husband cared for wild animals for the past 15 years. she was cleaning the bear's cage

when the 350-pound animal suddenly turned on her. coming up, the dangers of domesticating wild animals. we're going to speak to the wildlife manager from pennsylvania's game commission. a bill passed in the house to give some unemployed workers another 13 weeks of benefit hitting a snag in the senate. the original bill was designed to give people from extensions. the lawmakers from states who wouldn't qualify, of course, are resisting arguing that their residents are being left out. the unemployment rate is now at 9.7%, expected to climb even higher in the coming months. one of the men accused of trying to extort $25 until john travolta wanted to become the "about a heyman robin hood" in court prosecutors shyed video of a meeting between travolta's lawyer and the alleged extortionist. when travolta's lawyer asked why

he wanted the money, suspect says he wanted to give it to charity. steve: let's talk about stuff that you're going to be talking about throughout the day. yesterday at george washington university, at the association of the u.s. army, the defense secretary of the united states, gates, sure sounded like he told general stanley mcchrystal to zip it. semly he said that -- essentially he said that any military advice to president obama should be in private. of course, this comes just four days after mcchrystal sent a proposal to scale back operations in afghanistan -- said a proposal to scale back operations in afghanistan would be short-sighted. brian: here's what nancy pelosi said about the entire incident. >> let me say this about general mcchrystal, with all due respect, his recommendations to the president should go up the line of command. they shouldn't be in press conferences. brian: she should get the record right. number one, it was a "60 minutes" interview.

number two, it was a forum in london which he got clearance to go to so when it comes to questions about the war in which he was invited to speak about he's supposed to say pass? steve: he went up the chain of command. he submitted the 66-page document. gretchen: and part of that information was leaked to the press. so you could argue whether or not he felt he had to respond. it was leaked. the idea being that he had handed in to the white house so it seems to me like a lot of these people should just spend their time working on the new strategy if that's what they're going to do instead of figuring out who spoke first and what got leaked. go back and work on your strategy because apparently you don't agree with the one that mcchrystal, that you hired, by the way, that he has put out to you now. the other thing that dawned on me after hearing this yesterday from gates and from jones the day before, sort of the scolding process, was that maybe this meeting between president obama and mcchrystal on the airplane when he went over to try and get the olympics for chicago, maybe that was more of a speaking down

to mcchrystal in the sense of, hey, i'm here to find out what your report says but also i want to tell you that this is the chain of command in which you do business. it took on a different tone to me after i heard some of these other people coming out yesterday. brian: the daily telegraph said exactly that. of course, mcchrystal's people denied that. the other thing is -- by the way, he could always say instead of saying tell me about your report, he could say, mr. president, read the report, it's done to secretary gates' point, he says you cannot improve on mcchrystal's assessment so that shows the quality of it. but in the big picture, i thought it was interesting that the president of the united states had a bipartisan war council meeting yesterday, invited john bay nor, mitch mcconnell of the republican party. you had nancy p pelosi there. you had general casey there, are now secretary of the army, as well as secretary gates so at least they're meeting on this.

>> and they're going to meet again tomorrow and apparently on friday as well. last night gates apparently did say to a questioner, hey, are you trying to muzzle mcchrystal? he said absolutely not. >> but how long can the request from mcchrystal go unanswered? to me, that is the paramount question here. whatever the answer is, how long can it go unanswered? let us know what you think, e-mail us or twitter us this morning. in the meantime, david letterman is back on the front pages today and on his show, as well, apologizing again. this time to his wife some. would say finally. and also to sarah palin again but in sort of a backwards kind of way. >> the other thing is my wife regina, she has been horribly hurt by my behavior. when something happens like that, if you hurt a person, you try to fix it. at that point there is only two things that can happen. either you're going to make some

progress and get it fixed or you're going to fall short and perhaps not get it fixed so let me tell you, folks, i got my work cut out for me. >> you can't be victimized by criminals. so you have to go ahead and push back if you're being pushed by something illegal like this. and through all of the heartache and the attention and the embarrassment, i still feel like i did the right thing. and now, also, because what can it hurt, once again i'd like to apologize to the former governor of alaska, sarah palin. i'm terribly, terribly sorry. brian: i thought that was a joke. i read about it. i thought it was somewhat sincere, but clearly that was joke. steve: and that second soundbite started about why he pushed back against this robert halderman character who was trying to extort, allegedly, $2 million

from him. according to the papers today, he got the information from his ex-girlfriend's diaries. letterman also apologized to his staff. apparently when he was on his apology tour, he just threw in governor sarah palin. you're right, because of his very famous apology to her a couple of months ago. gretchen: halderman's attorney is saying this story is far from over that when the details come out we will understand a different david letterman. i believe halderman is still employed at cbs but may be -- steve: he's suspended. gretchen: he's saying with all of his experience working in the media and for the types of shows like "48 hours" that he would never have accepted a 2 million check, that he wouldn't have been that stupid. but that's what the authorities are saying he did. so the story appears to be far from over. brian: a bunch of doctors were

requested to be at the white house, about 150 strong. they were supposed to show up with their lab coats to show we are voting and supporting for you mr. president, now that you're back from denmark. we'd like to prosecuto support . so they lined up. there was a problem though. they showed up but not everybody had the right wear. steve: at signment was, hey, doctor, you can come to the white house, but make sure you wear your lab coat. a bunch of doctors, as you can see, didn't bring a lab coat. so, as you can see, a very helpful person from the white house, because it was all about the photooptics, gave him one. i read one report that said with all of those guys in the lab coats it almost looked like a costume party. but the optics were important. the white house wanted to show, look at the sea of guys and gals in white lab coats who all support the president's policy and change in health care. brian: when the president made his remarks yesterday, someone pointed out what was missing. he didn't say what he always said -- if you like your doctor, can you keep your doctor.

why? he says because he knows and many people know that he can't, even as president of the united states with all the power that he possesses, cannot make employers keep their car insurance -- their current insurance, cannot make their doctors decide what insurance to accept and not accept. therefore, as reform goes into place, he no longer can say with impunity, i promise. gretchen: to me that photo has a much deeper meaning. maybe for the photo-op they want it had to look all white and perfect. but to me it was about what kind of doctors he selected to actually come to the white house. did any of them have a dissenting opinion to his health care reform plan? i bet they didn't. coming up, we have a panel of doctors who aren't supporting obama's health care plan what they would have told president obama later on in this hour. steve: and some of those guys in the lab coats campaigned for him. it's not like somebody will say, by the way, mr. president, i

thought the plan was dopey. brian: make sure you find out, well, a lot of times you got to get the bloodstains out. steve: where's the beef? brian: before he was a four-star general, david petraeus was shot in the chest by one of his own men during a training accident. the man who saved him later became a u.s. senator and majority leader. he's here. ok, i gave it away. it's him, bill frist. steve: he's here next with what he likes and dislikes about proposed health care plans. he's a doctor. shouldn't we put him in a lab coat? and the big apple isn't big enough for these two, a penny cab driver and a taxi cab driver have a difference of opinion and decide to settle it on the streets of new york. watch out. i'm coming after you! # time to get the latte budget under control.

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steve: microsoft has blocked access to thousands of hot mail accounts after learning hackers obtained user information and posted them online. microsoft is advising hot mail users to change their passwords every three months. meanwhile, u.s. attorney jenneric holder won't -- general eric holder won't seek the death penalty for the man accused of bombing the embassy in had africa. the department of justice says it's part of his extradition

deal, the u.s. agreed it would not seek the death penalty. brian? >> thanks, steve in 1991 general petraeus was rising through the ranks serving as commander at fort campbell, kentucky. petraeus was shot, bleeding a lot, rushed to a nearby hospital. a doctor needed over five hours of surgery to save his life that doctor was former senate majority leader and heart surgeon bill frist. he joins us now with that story along with the story about his brand new book, "a heart to serve." it's your story and a look at what health care is today. was he a general then? >> no. everybody said what about this story? he was a battalion commander, fort campbell, kentucky. i was out at a soccer match with my son. got a telephone call long before politics. went in, and about an hour and a half later, about a 15-inch insignificance, opened the chest, my hand around his lungs, stoppedded the bleeding.

he had been accidentally shot with a m-16 by one of his soldiers, recovered well. 16 years later we were back in iraq training troops for the future. brian: never going to forget it. >> i don't know. he was a great man. he was a battalion commander. not a general. i never even thought about politics at the time. that's what i write about in the book, coming full circle. brian: it's so apt now. hets talk about health care reform. you med headlines over the weekend, said i'm for health care reform. does that mean you're for what max baucus put out? >> no. i endorse the process of pulling people together. i think max baucus and the senate finance committee can lead on it. it's going to take more involvement by president obama in terms of coming in saying, this is what i'm for, this is what i'll negotiate. and lastly, i'm for a process that does reach out to the uninsured, bring them out to the

market. but it's got to do a whole lot more in terms of slowing the growth of health care cost over time. the baucus plan, unfortunately, accelerates those costs. brian: would you have been one of the 150 had you not gone into politics, on the white house lawn yesterday? >> a lot of them were my colleagues. they're saying i need help. health insurance is overwhelming my patients, too many uninsured i'm taking care of for free. brian: even those it's 15% of the population. that's too many? >> it's really 20 million uninsured. if you're uninsure the in america today, you die sooner. i think we do van obligation. they need to pay their own way as much as possible but bring them into the market. brian: that's why a lot of republicans are taking note, senator bill frist that you're not staying with your party on this. >> but we've got to get people together. we have to get people together and recognize we have huge health care problems today. and just to say no and walkway

and say we don't have a problem, we just can't do. the process has got to get better. it's got to be bipartisan. right now there's no bipartisanship there. brian: we'll have you back this process is not ending. it's coming to a head. thank you for coming in, former senator bill frist. great to see you, doctor. >> great to be with you. gretchen: always good to know a doctor is in the house. well, your life could be about to change. the supreme court back to work and taking on gun control, free speech, and cruel and unusual punishment. judge nepa napolitano looks at w the top three cases could change our country. the airlines have been looking to cut costs and squeeze pennies out of passengers. now a special offer from one airline. pay one price to check two bags every time you fly or the rest of your life. we'll fill you in. h m.

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steve: yesterday was the first monday in october. that means the supreme court back at work in decide something momentous cases from local governments, exercising control over guns to justify niles being sentenced to life -- to juveniles being sentenced to life without parole. gretchen: judge napalitano has the top three cases. mcdonald v. the city of chicago. >> the city of chicago has made it virtually impossible for private individuals to own guns even in their own homes. no withstanding a supreme court opinion last year, heller v. district of columbia, which said that the right to own a gun is an ancient right and a personal right and the government can't prohibit it. chicago is saying, well we got our power from the state of illinois and the state of illinois can prohibit it even if the federal government can't. i've never seen this before. or i should say i've rarely seen this before. the supreme court is so animated

by the decision two of federal appellate courts that the states can prohibit guns in spite of this heller decision that it has agreed immediately to hear an appeal from these two appellate courts to say to the states, one of which is new york, the other illinois, you cannot ban all guns. steve: meanwhile, let's take a look at a case that originated in the state of florida. it is graham v. florida. we'll do that one right there. salazar v.buono. that's a case we have been highlighting here on "fox & friends." that's this great big cross in the middle of the hoe javy -- mojave desert. someone explained that's a religious artifact on federal property. now they're going to decide whether or not to have to take that down. which means they'll have to take down all the crosses in arlington. >> i think you're right. that cross now is covered by a box because the ninth circuit court of appeals ruled that the cross has to go. there it is. that used to be a cross. it's now covered by a box.

when the appeal was filed to the supreme court, the court of appeals said, ok, you don't have to take the cross down but you have to cover it until the supreme court rules. gretchen: that's a crazy picture right there. i'm sorry. >> it's horrible. gretchen: that is crazy to see that cross covered. >> it's a cross. it doesn't have the image of the crus fied jesus on it. we have people federal cemeteries, federal buildings, military insignia that the guys and gals wear on their chest. is it still a religious symbol or does it symbolize sacrifice, honor and duty? that's what the court is going to have to decide. but you're right if that cross comes down, thousands of other crosses on hundreds of pieces of federal property will have to come down with it. gretchen: pretty soon you'll have to have your microscope to see anything about any of that in our sew seat, i think. -- society i think. all right. this is the one about juveniles being sentenced to life. >> this is graham v. florida. gretchen: sorry. >> that's right.

there are two juveniles here, one convicted of rape, the other of armed robbery. both sentenced to life in prison. adults in florida wouldn't be sentenced to life in prison for rape and armed robbery. what's unique about these kids? they have enormous criminal records. the legislature in florida says if they are regular, consistent, systematic, repeated offenders, we're not going to go with the traditional view which is that juveniles can be rehabilitated and we're going to sentence them as if it they were adults. question, the supreme court? i don't think sox -- so. even though these penalties are very harsh, i was saying i've sentenced many juveniles who years later are different human beings, far better after their time in jail, devoted to becoming a different person. that's the theory of sentencing juveniles to small periods of time in jail. florida rejects that theory. i think the supreme court will let them do it. steve: they kicked things off

yesterday. it it will be an exciting session. >> we'll know the answer to these cases before christmas. gretchen: we'll have you back. we'll see if your assessments were correct. >> all right. write counsel what i predicted. gretchen: oktoberfest is supposed to be full of lots of beer. but it turns out terrorism threats are scaring off thousands of people. brian ross is in our greenroom what are you cog on the -- doing on the computer? he's getting details. he's going to join us next. he knows a thing or two about terrorism. steve: it looked like he just hacked into cavuto's account. >> wouldn't surprise me. steve: and only new york city. a petty driver and a taxi cab driver have a throwdown in the middle of broadway. it's unbelievable. watch this. yeah, he goes in. he comes out. gretchen: they take it to the max. steve: yeah. and he's down. gretchen: happy birthday to tony dungy, turns 54 today.

gretchen: half past the hour. thanks for sharing your time with us today. a couple of quick headlines. the u.s. dollar falling this morning after one of the most pro found financial changes in recent middle east history. arab states have been in secret talks, apparently to drop u.s. currency from the oil trade using the euro, gold, and

japanese yen to buy and sell oil instead. the move would take nine years to implement. u.s. officials, of course, vowing to fight it. steve: meanwhile, the nuclear threat from north korea growing this morning. new reports from south korea claim the north is in final stages of restoring its nuclear plant. restoring them! this is something kim jong il promised to do back in april after the u.n. condemned the communist regime's launch of a long-range rocket. north korea said that launch was a peaceful attempt to put a little space satellite into orbit. that's all. brian: erin andrews may not be the only victim of an accused peeping tom. yes, prosecutors say michael barrett taped a number of women in their hotel rooms and posted them online. barrett free on bond but barred from using the internet while under house arrest. that's a safe bet. he's also been suspended from his insurance job. he's got an ankle bracelet. prosecutors say barrett was

obsessed with andrews and wept through a lot of work to track her down in two different hotel rooms, where he allegedly messed with the peepholes to tape her walking around naked. many of you have seen that video. gretchen: unfortunately. united airlines coming up with another creative way to charge you for somhing youused to fo free. for $249 you can get a baggage pass. it let's you check two bags every time you fly. but that's only good for a year. the pass also covers up to it eight other people traveling under the same confirmation number. right now united charges $20 for the first bag and $30 for the second. the airline says the $249 is just an introductory price, by the way. i don't know, i didn't break out my calculator, but i'm not sure that's a good deal. steve: if you travel a lot it probably breaks down to be a good deal. a petty cab operator and taxi driver slug it out in the middle of new york city. words exchanged. something thrown out of the window. all caught on camera. it starts when the operator

throws a cup of coffee at the cab. the cab driver pulls over. watch this. a shove. here comes the guy. and they're down! the taxi driver gets the upper hand, tossing the petty cab driver to the street and pinning him face down. a fox news photographer just so happened to be in the area to shoot a different story, captured the incident on camera as two reporters right there tried to break up the brawl. no luck. the petty cab driver grabs a green metal trash can and hurls it at the cabby. cops showed up moments later but the cab driver took off. at two miles an hour. brian? brian: wow. this is pretty exciting stuff. i wonder if he gets paid twice to cover that story and so much more. fox is everywhere. it was perhaps the most anticipated nfl game of the regular season so far. you've got brett favre, 40 years old, taking on his former team, the green bay packers. how did it go? favre, huge welcome home in his

hometown fans. his last-second victory a week ago. then favre started playing. hits sidney rice a 14-yard score breaking a 7-7 tie. minnesota up 14-7. then after the packers score a defensive touchdown, bernard barren. -- barien. the vikings have a very good defense. even though page retired, he sacked aaron rogers eight times. allen had four. minnesota wins. they're up 4-0 this means favre becomes first quarterback to beat all 32 nfl teams. >> as far as the game went, the only thing i can say, i was about as nervous as i've ever been before a game. going into this one. brian: well, favre gets another crack at the packers november 21 as a visiting quarterback. in other news, king-sized feud brewing in cleveland. lebron james has some choice

words for cleveland brown's wide receiver, braylon edwards. james called edwards childish and full of jealousy after edwards reportedly punched james' friend outside a nightclub. edwards defended himself saying he has no issue lebron. edwards faces possible disciplinary action. evidently this other guy we'd 130 pounds. so he shouldn't have fought him. steve: look who's wandered in. brian: he's hot on your trail. steve: he has a new book. we'll talk about that. we'd love to have your take on some stuff in the news. >> absolutely. steve: in germany, one of the most famous annual events is oktoberfest. but this year the attendance is way down because there have been these online threats, videos posted that have been so specific where they say there's going to be an ugly attack on a sunday during oktoberfest. >> absolutely. it's got the whole country spooked. again and again, yesterday they discovered a new cell in hamburg, where the 9/11,

mohammad atia, began his activities. we'll see it they follow-through on the threats, but the videos themselves have been terrorizing. gretchen: how does this play with regard to terrorism around the world? this is something you focus on a lot in your investigations, but back here at home we had this big arrest of zazi recently. do you believe that arrest had to happen too quickly because they needed to stop it but maybe didn't get all the evidence they needed? >> right. they had to weigh the value. and the value was to stop the atacts, disrupt what they think was the first really serious 9/11 effort to attack new york city -- since 9/11. and in that case they knew they weren't going to have all the evidence they needed. generally like to watch these things unfold and develop, get more wiretaps, get people actually doing things in this case they decided they had to move quickly. that was primarily a move by the new york city police commissioner, kelly, who said we're not going to have that. brian: i understand we have an eight-year tradition which i've noticed of minimizing the

threats. after the capture we find out it was no threat and overblown. but here, it's revealed today that this guy zazi goes right back to higher ups in al qaeda so this guy that used to sell coffee downtown was very wired up. they had about 10 back pagz, all black. they say this could have been a plot, according to eric holder, the size of madrid and london. what do your sources say? >> presielsly the same thing. precisely the same thing. they picked him up when he went to pakistan, last august, was there four and a half hoz. he acknowledged to the f.b.i. that he was trained in weapons and explosives in an al qaeda camp and was in direct contact with al qaeda senior leaders. they saw this as their next big attack. he was the man who was going to help carry it out. the great concern is they don't know all of the other people with him. he traveled with others to pakistan to the camps. and they may or may not have them it all scooped up. there are at least a dozen people under 24-hour surveillance right now. many of them about three, four

miles from here. steve: thank you very much. >> just so you know. steve: brian, the global war on terror started when we went into afghanistan to rout out the taliban and al qaeda. the taliban is getting a stronghold again. people are saying, ok, if we go out of afghanistan, al qaeda will come back in and we'll be right back in the same spot we were before. >> that's exactly the concern being debated at the white house. the taliban gave al qaeda a safe haven. bin laden was able to operate, they had their camp there's and operated with impunity. once we moved in, they moved across the bored near pakistan. that's -- border into pakistan. that's where they're believed to be now. they would go back to pakistan in a second. it's for the administration to figure out what do we do. the real point to go into pakistan was to knock out al

qaeda, not to sort of re-engineer the population and civilization of afghanistan. gretchen: the whole nation building argument. >> it's not really reconstruction because it was never construction to begin with. it's start from scratch. brian: there is a theory that these taliban don't recognize the difference between afghanistan and pakistan. do you want the taliban with nuclear weapons? if you take pakistan, that's what you get. >> right. i don't know if we're quite at that point where they take over pakistan of the but those areas are more tribal than they are. the borders that have been imposed are regarded as something that they don't really pay attention to. the tribes have regions. that's what they recognize. gretchen: you said some of the al qaeda may be three or four miles away from us. one thing we know for sure that's very close is wall street, just down the road here. p and now cejen feinberg -- and now kenneth feinberg may start imposing new salary restrictions for some of the top earners at the bank. apparently he's going to be

giving out stock instead of cash. your thoughts on this? >> i guess the idea is to give long-term incentives. i have think it gets messy when the government gets involved in deciding what a company should pay his top executives it seems to be unwieldy at the best. steve: is that government's job? >> well, it seems to me -- i don't always agree with my former colleague. but in this case it seems like the market should really determine that. steve: absolutely. >> there are shareholders. there are members of the board. they should be held accountable. i'm all for accountability. you guarantee that. but i think for the government to go in and set pay scales it opens up a huge problem. steve: this is one of the perils of getting in bed with the government if you need bailout money. brian: i can't speak for gretchen, but i think you're showing off. al qaeda, pay czar and now bernie madoff! come on, you bring your a-game. >> i'm a renaissance man. gretchen: we're going to talk about this new book "the madoff

chronicles." juicy details about bernie madoff's life. how did brian discover this new information? it's in his new book. steve: and 150 doctors make a white house call to push for health care reform. but the funny thing is, they're all in favor of the plan. so we have assembled our own panel of doctors for a truly fair and balanced debate. you deposit hear yesterday at the white house. brian: plus cracking down a reporter's sources. karl rove joins us next hour. that's right, we're name-dropping.

brian: he's going down as one of the biggest con men in u.s. history. gretchen: we're back now with abc's chief investigative correspondent who uncovered

details about bernie madoff you've never heard before in his new book "the madoff chronicles." brian ross. on the front cover this got my attention, it includes bernie a little black book. what the heck was that? >> literally his little black book of key addresses. every year he'd' rewrite it and have his secretary type it up in had case he lost it it was that valuable. she gave us and the f.b.i. a copy of that. that shows all the people who he deemed to be important in his life, including seven or eight women under masseuses, under the m, professional escorts, we believe. he had them stashed around the world. brian: is it your conclusion that he set out to be a con man or just to be a rich man? >> i think he set out to be a con man and early on. in the early 1960's he found he could do it. he told someone the first few years a lot of sleepless nights and then he realized i can do this. he became a skilled liar, a master of deceit who tricked

people close to him, best friends, and, of course, the government which is the most appalling failure, the s.e.c.'s failure to find this when they were so close again and again. he was a big shot on wall street. gretchen: you believe he had this narcissistic type of personality. a lot of people argue o.j. simpson had a similar type of personality. after a while they start believing what they're saying. >> absolutely. he may not believe he's done anything truly wrong. he made that case to people after his arrest. saying, well, they weren't doing that well anyway, without me they didn't have any money at all. one of his victims committed suicide, a french banker. he says that guy, he couldn't pick a stock if it his life depended on it he had no remorse. brian: is it your sense that he's going to survive in prison? >> i think he'll do very well in prison. are. brian: why? >> he's a manipulator. he'll figure out a way. people who visit him say he's working out, looks kind of buff. gretchen: what about the drugs? >> in the go-go days of the

madoff enterprise, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, he and his wife ruth were serious users of marijuana. they had someone employed whoz who was a messenger, to go to harlem, make the connections are, and bring back marijuana, lots of it. gretchen: any way that the family, the boysndu, coul not be involved? >> what i found, i don't believe that the sons knew precisely that there was this scheme, that it was completely phony. ruth kept the books early on when he just started working off a folding table in the apartment. and she -- i relate her, she's like bonnie of bonnie and clyde. she was along for the ride. she enjoyed the wealth. was she directly involved? probably not. she was more involved in her social activities and golf games. brian: it's all detailed in "the madoff chronicles." thank you. >> thank you very much. gretchen: thank you for stopping by. >> always great to be here. gretchen: doctors made a call at the white house, but they're all in favor of the president's

plan. where is the balance? right here on "fox & friends." and no lab coats needed. there they are. high, balance. brian: that's the same hall brian ross walked down and bill frist. why are baked sales getting booted from it schools? and is that a good idea? .. ddddddddddddddd

>> you are the people who know this system best. you are the experts. nobody has more credibility with the american people on this issue than you do. steve: there are you president obama addressing 150 doctors in the white house rose garden yesterday. critics are upset because they only invited supporters of his health care plan. the guest lists drew heavily from doctors for america off

shoot of the grass roots organization doctors for obama. we decided to assemble our own panel of doctors today. we have dr. man any alvarez. chief of robotics and minimally invasive surgery. good morning, doctors. the white house handed out white coats for those who forgot them. many, tell me why you don't wear a white coat. >> it's full of bacteria. they tell me to tut down infection. hospital infections. isn't that what you are supposed to do. we are not supposed to be wearing white coats. it has a lot of bugs in it. i didn't want to get you infected this morning. steve: i'm happy to hear that. had you been invited to the white house and, of course, you weren't. because you have other opinions in addition to, you know, how this would all work out. what would you have told the president. manny, i know that one of your main concerns is not necessarily about doctors but about lawyers. >> absolutely. i'm an obgyn i deliver babies.

the obstetrician the whole idea of tort reform. one of the things the president said is look i'm going to try to do something about tort reform. have you heard that in the last three or four weeks? never again. are there any specific plans? no even the things that he said which had to do with creating, perhaps, pilot programs, nothing. there is no specific tort reform that i can see. letting doctors practice the type of medicines. steve: doctor, i know one of your concerns a good way for the government to save money would be to crack down on the corruption in the medicare program. >> absolutely. you know, the new england journal of medicine came out with an article that said in a survey that said 53% of doctors supported having some sort of public option and as well as private insurance. and i think we all agree there needs to be some coverage of people in between jobs and people that don't fit into both

cry tier i can't. i don't think we need to throw the baby out with the bath water. we have two medical systems in place that are government-based. the problem with them is that they don't cover enough people. and there is a lot of corruption. there is a lot of fraud. for example, medicare could start covering people at the age of 55. medicaid could increase the income that you needed to qualify for it and the way to increase -- be able to cover the costs of all these new people coming into these insurance companies or into these insurance plans is to really investigate fraud. states spend .1% of 1% of their medicaid budget on investigating fraud. and there are millions. hundreds of millions of dollars. steve: doctor, we were talking out in the hall a little while ago how if something is done and something does need to be done for the people who have been falling through the cracks, how do you take care of those 30, 40, 50 until americans. >> it's an excellent point. the biggest complaint we get from our patients and also

doctors is we are not spending enough time with our patients. as a result of the pressure over the past many years. the speed of medicine has grown to be much faster. they are sitting in the waiting room longer and they are spending less time with the physician. now you are going to add another 45 to 50 million patients to this system without growing the medical population. we are at the point where we have to make a decision whether we are going to go for just a quantity or really quality of the care. what's really important is the concept of medical care reform versus health care reform. and i think the medical care reform is what we are talking about every day. about electronic medical records. about crossing the state line to get better insurance. health care reform, steve, starts from our individual and the responsibility of the patient. no one is going to lose the weight for you. the congress is not going to make you healthier. it's in our hands. that's the big decision we have to make. steve: three great points of view on ideas how to save money.

let's hope washington is watching. thank you for making a couch call. >> thank you for having us. steve: straight ahead on this tuesday telecast. general stanley mcchrystal doing what the president asked him to do, lead the war in afghanistan. why is the general's plan under attack by nancy pelosi? also, david letterman saying sorry again last night for having relations with staff members. but did he bring sarah palin into an apology as well? he did. but why? "fox & friends" back in a flash. 

gretchen: a very good tuesday morning to you, october 6, 2008. thanks for sharing your time

today. president obama promised a transparent administration. why is general stanley mcchrystal being criticized then for speaking out against the war in afghanistan? i hadn't thought of that. i like that. brian: david letterman, take two. >> i will be honest with you, folks, right now i would give anything to be hiking on the appalachian trail. brian: letterman apologizing again this time to his wife and the governor of alaska sarah palin. steve: bake sales, we love them. bad news, they have been banned from city schools. what are the kids and pta's going to do to raise money? that straight ahead. our slogan comes from jordan in michigan. i put on "fox & friends" right before school. if my slogan was chosen, that would be so cool. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> live from the news crossroads of the world, this is "fox & friends."

steve: welcome aboard, folks, live from studio e in the heart of rockefeller center. thanks for joining us on the world number one tv news show. brian: this f. they took that shot and saw the teleprompter they would know we are leading this hour with the headlines. gretchen: let's do that. we have new video into fox news. let's go overseas to islamabad. video just released from inside the u.n. world food agency. it shows the moment right before and right after that homicide bomber murdered five innocent people. a man dressed as a security officer, he apparently asked to use the bathroom, passes through security. moments later the camera goes dark. then you can see the deadly aftermath. the pakistani taliban now claiming responsibility for this attack and several guards stationed there are in custody and they are being questioned. for the first time, the senate will officially weigh in on president obama's czars today. all have been appointed without congressional approval as you

know. the judiciary committee holding a hearing to find out exactly what these special advisors are doing. president obama has been accused of stacking his administration with people who, in turn, face zeroed accountability. criticism heating up after the resignation of former green jobs czar van jones. well, we have also just learned general david petraeus diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer. he was diagnosed in february. since then he has undergone two months of radiation treatment at walter reed medical center. he has undergone one overseas trip. he has been able to keep his training regimen as well. acorn's embattled ceo will speak to the national press club in washington about the bad behavior of some of acorn's employees. she will talk about the results of the community organizing group's internal investigation after fox news uncovered several

disturbing hidden camera videos. they showed workers giving advice on how to cheat on your taxes, human smuggling and even child prostitution. congress has cut off acorn's funding for now. the group accredited with helping to get president obama elected. the daly lomb -- dalai lama is in d.c. one important person is he not going to be meeting with. president obama the first president not to meet with the dalai lama since visiting washington in 2001. human rights groups are accusing president trying to keep chinese officials happy by postponing this meeting. the white house insists he will meet the spiritual leader after his visit to china next month. searching for the latest get away look to vince von's new movie couples retreat. the stars hit the red carpet. he has dated several big stars like jennifer aniston. he says couples therapy is for everyone. >> a bunch of couples with

relatable stuff going through with a really funny way of dealing with it it's nice to have the response be so great. gretchen: the movie also starring jason baitman and kristin bell. it opens on friday. those are your headlines. brian: how cool is vince vaughn. secretary of defense gates was talking yesterday. where was he? steve: american university at the association of the u.s. army. brian: right. he was talking yesterday where we are going with the war. actually secretary of state hillary clinton was on the stage with her. he was asked about general mcchrystal, speaking out the and the need to go with his plan. he essentially said general mcchrystal really in a mild rebuke defense secretary gates said he should keep their guidance private and effective admonishing mcchrystal rather than publicly advocating a troop

increase approach. he should weight it -- wait it out. steve: he said to mcchrystal and anybody else who gives advice to the president, zip it it's advice for the president. you shouldn't be going on television shows talking about it or you shouldn't be leaking stuff to the press or anything like that. last night, gates was asked are you trying to muzzle mcchrystal and gates said absolutely not. however, it is interesting on charlie rose, nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house, absolutely goes along with mr. gates' assessment that he should zip it. watch. >> let me say this about general mcchrystal with all due respect. his recommendations to the president should go up the line of command. they shouldn't be in press conferences. gretchen: but did. steve: he followed instructions and followed orders. gretchen: he turned in his report. apparently somebody leaked some of that to the press.

you be the judge whether or not the general had to defend what his position was in that report or not. the big question to me was when will the obama administration respond? whatever response it's going to be. brian: weeks. gretchen: how long you can go without offering a response now that the whole world knows you have this 66 page report in your hands? to me, that becomes the question. brian: he has bipartisan council meeting. senator reid and boehner. senator mitch mcdlonel as well as nancy pelosi, the secretary of army casey. secretary gates and i imagine hillary clinton will be in and out, as well as the president. is he trying to get all views considering a way forward in iraq. one thing made clear yesterday. one option is not pulling out. they are not going to pull out troops. don't look to pull troops out of the outpost like the one that was attacked over the weekend. steve: that's good news because a lot of people wanted to hear that let's talk about. this they were lining up early up at the ed sullivan theater

here in midtown manhattan on broadway. they wanted to see david letterman in his first show after it was announced that he allegedly had been extorted for 2 million bucks and he also had relations with some of the staff members. well, last night david letterman was very funny. he had some good jokes but also he apologized to a bunch of people. let's start with the apology to regina lasko his long-time girlfriend who he married in march. >> now, the other thing is my wife regina, she has been horribly hurt by my behavior. when something like happens like that. when you hurt a pepper, it's your responsibility, you try to fix it at that point there is only two things that can happen, either you are going to make some progress and get it fixed or fall short and perhaps not get it fixed. so, let me tell you folks, i have got my work cut out for me. steve: you betcha?

gretchen: maybe a lot of sleepless nights going on there. one person who remains under attack from david letterman is governor sarah palin. you thought when he was going down this path he was talking about the governor and sarah palin. you thought he was going to apologize truthfully to her again. it ended up being more of a sass cass particular type of joke that he got a laugh from. as well as these jokes. >> i will be honest with you folks, right now i would give anything to be hiking on the appalachian trail. i got into the car this morning and the navigation lady wasn't speaking to me. [ laughter ] and don't kid yourself, things are still pretty bad. there is a possibility that i will be the first talk show host impeached. [ laughter ] not where you want to be. steve: david letterman apologized to his wife and to his staff. while he was on the apology kick he just apologized to governor sarah palin. we should point out ever since

his famous apology he continues to beat her up in the monologue. brian: the prosecutor he could be facing this cbs would-be blackmailer. extorter. he is the same lawyer that got john gotti off the first time. is he a lethal cross examiner. judge napolitano said letterman could be more embarrassed than the guy who was already arraigned on blackmail charges. steve: he says he is champing at the bit to cross-examine. this guy halderman has got all of his ex-girlfriend's diaries regarding their affairs. he has got the goods. gretchen: speaking of the goods. steve: big goods. gretchen: i have been in favor of baked goods specifically as a child when i ate to many of them. what they are going to do in new york city schools you can't have bake sales anymore. it has to do with kids being overweight. but, to me, those bake sales bring in the money for all these

programs that the kids can enjoy after school like sports programs and things. so you have to weigh, no pun intended the benefits of whether or not you should get rid of these bake sales to keep kids skinnier. brian: look what joel made for us. steve: could you put that up for one more second? brian: you mean the pie chart? steve: um, pie. healthy weight. look at all other people who have got some weight issues. brian: if you are a p.t.a. member. no problem. if you are an adult you are already fat or skinny. the jury is in. if you are a kid or you are looking to sale during school hours, it's not going to happen. you can only sell things after 6:00 and earn money. steve: once a month i think that is. there is a loophole so you can do that. all the kids are already home, most probably. the mayor of new york city, michael bloomberg has been cracking down on transfats and stuff like that. and a lot of this stuff is friday. i get what it is. once again, it's just an

intrusion of the food police into the schools telling us what we can and can't. brian: because they clern better if they're skinny and not on a sugar high. gretchen: let's face it obesity is a problem for kids. i'm not sure this is exactly the way to curb that. steve: personal responsibility. brian: i'm going to see what i can get for this. steve: it is against the law. where are you going? i could use some coffee. gretchen: you might need to see a cardiology after that if you are going to see one, make sure the doctor gives you the tests. cut back or be charged. peter johnson jr. has prescription for truth coming up next. doctors are facing unbearable decision. get the new h1n1 vaccine, the swine flu vaccine. or get a new job. what would you do? come on, girl, lifeless hair...

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gretchen: under the president's health reform the favorite doctors will be those who spend the least amount of money. doctors who order the most tests tests, most procedures and prescribe the most drugs will be penalized. peter johnson jr. says whether that is a prescription for truth or prescription for das disaster. >> prescription for disaster. i heard about this last night. lori wiener producer on "fox & friends" said there is an editorial in the "wall street journal" today that lays out one of the provisions of the baucus bill. one of the provisions in the baucus bill, the president's health care reform is that the doctors who prescribe the most tests, most procedures, most surgeries, those in the 90th percentile, those will the highest amount of test

procedures and surgeries will be penalized 5%. so they will be paid 5% less and, in effect, the government will be rationing health care by saying to these doctors we will punish you, doctor, financially, if you give too many tests, too many procedures, too many surgeries to your patients. i really wanted to cry. gretchen: what business would it be of the government to determine whether or not a private physician can order tests? >> that is the great, great question that's facing congress and america. should the government -- should bureaucrats have a role in making a specific determination about how your doctor practices medicine. and so this is consistent what the federal government is now doing with medicare in 2010. the "wall street journal" in their editorial points out today and it's incredible set of

facts, that in 2010, cardiac procedures are going to be cut 11%. radiation oncology, meaning if you have got a tumor in your chest, if you have got a tumor in your body and you need powerful radiation to kill that tumor, those services will be cut 19%. under the medicare cuts in 2010. if have you got a heart problem and you need to get an echo cardio gram, a stress test, that's going to be cut 42%. if you need a cardiac catheterization. if you are having a heart attack or even if it's a procedure being done to prevent a heart attack where you have a block cage, those procedures where they run a catheter up through your body and into your heart, not open heart surgery, those will be cut 24%. gretchen: let me play devil's advocate for a moment. >> please.

gretchen: what about physicians who order more tests than necessary? i don't know what the percentage of that is because they want to make more money, then should they in fact be penalized for that because that cost is coming back. >> that's a superb question, that's the argument that the president has put out. there has been this theory that these doctors are somehow unethical that they only care about the dollar. if people had that kind of doctor, they should walk away from that kind of doctor. that's not my experience. and imperially, the research, the journals, the peer review studies, they don't show that i think a lot of people have very positive experiences with doctors, some have not so positive experiences with doctors. if you are really looking for doctors to ask are act in a -- way. change the way they practice medicine, then say to them, we're going to fine you 5% if you practice too much medicine. if you are a specialist, we're

going to fine you 5%. beware cardiologists and radiation oncologists and those are the people our medicare recipients need the most. gretchen: peter johnson jr. good to see you. >> thank you. gretchen: people in georgia swine flu vaccine. parents, what you need to know coming up next. we told you how nancy pelosi is giving her expert military advice to general stanley mcchrystal. should she be in that position? karl rove is going to weigh in in just 15 minutes.

steve: welcome back, time for news by the numbers. first 10. that's the score singer maya received from dancing with the stars. these are the first two tens of

the season putting them in the lead. brian: no one has to tell you that. steve: still no word from tom delay. 1% how much experts expect sales will be down this holiday season. 40,000 years how long a baby woolly mammoth was frozen. the one month old was so well preserved the traces of mother's milk were still in her stomach. she will be part of a new exhibit at the field museum in chicago starting this spring. brian: do you think you can revive it? steve: i don't think so. gretchen: nope. but that's pretty cool. shipments are going to start arriving across the u.s. today. this is big news. we are talking about swine flu now. health care workers and young children in fayetteville, georgia will be the first to get in line for the h1n1 vaccine. marianne silber is live there for us this morning. are people lining up yet to get this thing? >> good morning, gretchen. so far not yet. they open at 8:00.

this is one of the first locations here in georgia to actually offer the h1n1 vaccine. and it is in the form of a nasal mist called flu mist, the first doses. they are expecting 400 here today. they don't know how long those are going to last because they are not sure how many people to expect. they just sent out word on their web site last night to let people know that they can just walk in here and receive the vaccine. steve: so marianne, who winds up getting the first doses? i know you mentioned it's the nasal spray, who is going to bind up getting them if it's first come, first serve? >> well, here in georgia, anyway, they are focusing on 2 to 4-year-olds, healthy 2 to 4-year-olds and also health care workers. that's the same case in some other states. we saw yesterday in tennessee and illinois, as well as indiana that there were some health care workers first in line because they're the ones dealing with the people coming in sick. so it's very important for them to stay healthy. brian: when will the shot become available? >> well, that's the thing. not everyone can get the flu

mist. the nasal mist, that includes pregnant women and people with chronic medical conditions. they have got to wait for the shot. they say now they are expecting the shot a week or two by mid month. they are expecting a total of 40 million doses of vaccine. that includes nasal spray and injectables by mid month. steve: all right. marianne silber reporting live from down in georgia. thank you very much for our flu news this morning. brian: i'm trying to follow the tom delay story that happened hours ago. he performed with two stress fractures one in each foot and he went ahead and danced. i'm not sure how they work it but we don't know if he is eliminated until tonight. gretchen: we will keep following that as well as this. did general stanley mcchrystal break the chain of command when this comes to strategy in afghanistan. nancy pelosi seems to think so because he talked to the press. what does karl rove think? he joins us after this break.

steve: just what every woman needs, a brassiere that doubles as a gas mask. don't laugh, it won the nobel prize. oh boy, that on the other side of a brief timeout.

steve: there has been a great back and forth on the late night shows where cory booker who is the mayor of newark, new jersey has banned conan, not only from his city but he has gotten together with all the other mayor's to do something big. first, the mayor and then conan o'brien. >> if you are mayor of new jersey's largest new jersey city. i'm not the only city. new jersey has 5 6 municipalities and i have been getting calls and emails and faxes from mayors all over the state. you see, we in new jersey roll hard, we roll strong, and we roll together. i'm now here to officially tell you that you have been band from the entire state of new jersey. >> here is what the esteemed mayor of elizabeth had to say. he says dear mr. o'brien, i think have you been done a grave injustice by being banned from the great state of emergency so

on -- new jersey elizabeth i welcome you to the new jersey's fourth largest city. [cheers and applause] >> and then terminal a of newark airport lies in my city, i will rename it, this is absolutely honest to god truth the conan o'brien terminal for your visit. [cheers and applause] steve: however, if conan has to go to terminal b which is not in elizabeth, look for a citizen's arrest. gretchen: very important point there. that war, that fun war between the two of them continues. let me bring you headlines. pay czar kenneth fineberg taking no prisoners. is he going to start clamping down on the paychecks executives get at bailed out companies. specifically banks. maybe insurance companies. fineberg will put a chunk of their pay into stock that can't be touched for years to try to prevent them from taking risky moves with taxpayerey he will decide on the pay for

125 executives or employees at seven firms. those companies include g.m. and chrysler, bank of america, citigroup and a.i.g. just to name a few. steve: meanwhile president obama wants to paint federal government green. meet ambitious climate change targets by the year 2020. under the president's order, agencies must work to cut greenhouse gases, reduce waste, and recycle more stuff. the president says the federal government must lead by example on this issue. brian? brian: thousands of bloggers write each day about various products and services. soon those bloggers will be subject to federal regulations. the fdc -- ftc to include any freebies they get for their reviews. cut done on advertisements claiming results that aren't typical. results go into effect on december 1st. what wouldn't be a typical dramatic result? that story later.

gretchen: 2.5 million plerns hooked on campaign but kicking the deadly addiction could take just seconds. doctors say they may have come up with a vaccine to keep cocaine abusers from getting high. using a simple shot in the arm to block the drugs from ever reaching the brain. the research headed up by doctors at baylor college in houston. steve: kind of embarrassing going in to ask for that. brian: unbelievable game last night. packers, vikings, emailed me all night with gretchen carlson. gretchen: i emailed you once. brian: 90 times. it was unbelievable. brett favre first time against green bay. he is 40 years old so they agreed not to tackle him. gretchen: come on. the vikings sacked the other guy eight times. gretchen: he is very old, gretchen. that's when gretchen realized is he old enough. favre connects there with sydney rice. favre and the vikings defense was too much as their offense would do just enough. aaron rodgers was good but not

good enough. vikings win 30-23. favre becomes the first quarterback to beat all 32 teams in one night. three matches november 1st in green bay. now ugly news in sports. we are hearing the dramatic 911 tapes africa brother a fought his wife in drunken range. it happened sunday after he returned home after night of drinking with his friends. he apparently had a blood alcohol level three times the legal limit when thinks -- his wife called 311. brian: are questions whether he was still drunk when he took the field later that night. he bombed at the plate. 0-4. cabrera expected to play today as the tigers take on the twins. they are playing an extra game for that ugly, ugly, ugly. 25 minutes before the top of the

hour. steve: let's go down to our nation's capitol. our old buddy karl rove is sitting in the chair. he joins us live. good morning, karl. how are you doing? >> fabulous. how are you? >> it was to everybody on the curvy couch. good morning, everybody. steve: thank you. our top talker today is about the fact that last night and yesterday the defense secretary essentially told mcchrystal owho is running operations in afghanistan zip it any military recommendations should be private. nancy speaker, the -- nancy pelosi, the speaker of the house accused him of not following the chain of command. didn't he follow the chain of command? >> he did. look, this is a difficult authority situation. because, on the one hand in the modern military you do have a chain of command where things report up that chain of command

to ultimately the president. yet, on the other hand, we require of our military leaders an openness and transparency and willingness to share around the world what we are doing and why we are doing it. it goes back to a speech general mcchrystal made in london where he was asked about a counter insurgency versus counter terrorism strategy. this has been blown out of proportion. secretary gates was right to sort of caution we want advice to be given to the president privately through the chain of command and said i'm not trying to muzzle speaker pelosi. speaker pelosi has anti-reflect military a attitude she jumped down miscritic tall's -- mcchrystal's throat and accused him of going outside the chain of command. gretchen: obama hired mcchrystal to go over there to figure out what was going on and deliver a report back to him.

now that he has had the report since the end of august, when will he respond? and according to your political expertise, how long does he have? whether or not he agrees with the report or not, when will he respond? >> well, i don't know, but this process has gone on longer than it should. in part because it started later than it should. you mentioned president obama appointed general mcchrystal. that's correct. in june, and then he talked to him one time between jiewnd last week. last week he talked to him twice. once in a secure video teleconference. and then briefly for 25 minutes or less in copen hag again on air force -- copenhagen. if you are the commander in chief, in a time of war, you ought to be talking to the commanders in the battlefield more often than once every 70 days. in fact, it is customary, given new technology to be able to

talk to them once every week or two with in a security video conference with your secretary of state, secretary of defense, chairman of joint chiefs of staff present. this status has been elongated this president is disengaged and aloof and detached from the war in a way that was surprising. i was shocked when i learned that he only talked to mcchrystal once in 70 days. brian: did you have to urge president bush to talk to his generals in the field? >> no. because the president had a standing meeting. it was like every week or at most every week or two. three or four times a month the president was on a secure video teleconference with his commanders in afghanistan and iraq. and, again, with the chain of command present. do you want to make certain that the times that the president is talking to his commander in the field separate from the chain of command are limited but the previous president talked on a frequent basis with his commanders in the field and this president would be well-advised to have done that that's why --

that's the main issue to me. the biggest issue is are we going to pursue a counter terrorism or a counter insurgency strategy or half measure of throwing in the towel or throwing in the towel. those are our four options. that's the big issue. all this whether mcchrystal was outside the chain of command is secondary and i think it's been blown out of proportion. steve: a couple days ago you wrote a great editorial column. joe biden favors things pairing down things more surgical. no more boots on the ground over there. >> fewer boots. steve: fewer boots. joe biden hasn't always come down on the right side of history. >> you are charitable. he has been on the wrong side of almost every major foreign policy decision since he came to the united states senate. this guy you can say where was joe biden on this foreign policy question and nine times out of 10 he will have been on the wrong side. this guy is the guy who opposed the first gulf war when the rest of the world said disham cannot

hold on to kuwait. this guy was against it. foreign policy decisions since he was first elected in 1972, this guy is wrong. this one is particularly dangerous. it is a sort of seemingly half sounding, half measure kind of thing that ultimately would lead to a tremendous defeat. and, yet, during the meantime, cost american lives in the needless pursuit of a policy goal that could not be achieved given -- we tried that during the 1990s, we stood offshore in afghanistan and if something bad happened we put a tomahawk cruise missile into some ant hill somewhere and it did nothing to stop the growth of the taliban and al qaeda. we saw what happened to our country on 9/11. gretchen: i'm wondering though if joe biden gave that different view under the shield of obama wanting that, so that it would create more conversation and talk about different alternatives than just what mcchrystal was saying. >> well, look, see here is what is troubling to me about it. you want to have the president have you a kinds of views inside

his counsels. there is nothing wrong with somebody having a bad opinion. i occasionally had a couple of bad opinions when i was inside the oval office giving advice. steve: we weren't going to bring that up. >> what you don't want to have is i took it as a sign when they leaked what biden was saying to the newspapers in a way that made it sound like it was getting serious consideration. it might be the preferred alternative. you know, in washington, sometimes you send those things up the flag pole to see whether or not they are going to be saluted. i was a little troubled by it. steve: more with karl rove straight ahead. because some say it was the dumbest idea of the century. the cash for clunkers program. new studies are out now to show you how much it cost you even if you didn't buy one. karl is going to weigh in on that. brian: do you want the government telling you what vaccines to take. some nurses saying they won't be forced to gift h1n1 vaccine. talk to them next. gretchen: aflac trivia question of the day.

>> oh that microsoft. they have blocked access to thousands of hotmail accounts after learning that hackers had accessed user names and password information and posted them online. what's that about. microsoft is investigating the security problem but advising hotmail users to change their password every 90 days okay your bra save new a terrorist attack. dr. alayna bodener thinks. so

she was awarded a nobel prize of sorts at the 19th annual tribute to sign tisk research. renobel lawyer yes, sir handed out prizes to research that may on the surface seem goofy but others argue is surprisingly practical. the event at harvard is sponsored by a scientific humor magazine. now back over to brian, gretch, and the norwegian of the year. gretchen: we will talk about that in the minute. the obama administration hailed the cash for clunkers program hailed success $3 billion spent in the month boosted car sales. new studies revealed the true cost of the program and it isn't pretty. brian: back with karl rove the political advisor to george w. bush. karl fox news contributor of course. karl, the cash for clunkers programs it was successful beyond your wildest imagination. that is some of the descriptions coming from the white house. what's the reality? >> the reality is it boosted car sales for one month by robbing

sales from the future. and it made those people who are in a place to get a car that month get a generous subsidy paid for by the rest of us. i actually bought a car during that month. i bought a used car that has above average fuel economy and i got no subsidy. but did i pay for somebody else's brand new car and, again, we have seen since the month of clunkers sales, the next month sales fall through the floor. so i mean, you know, these temporary measures in which we take money from people who are earning it and give it the money to somebody who does something that the government asks them to do, is ridiculous. we ought to stop it with this -- we will be paying for this for years. gretchen: no kidding. it wasn't as if even taking money from your neighbor was helping somebody who really needed it. because there was no real guidelines that it only could help a low income person, which makes it even worse. let's take a look at the cost of clunkers, by the dealers said this was going to happen and a

bunch of people did too. nobody would listen. cost to taxpayer $2,600 per vehicle. environmental benefits, $596 per vehicle. net cost to the taxpayer was approximately then $2,000 per vehicle. did it really help the environment, karl? >> well, you know, we will see. but, gretch, that understates the cost because, remember, we spent $3 billion on this that we don't have. so what's the interest cost on that $3 billion every year for -- until we get it repaid? that's a lot of money. that's the cost from the university of delaware does not include interest costs. brian: if you think you know the type karl rove bought email us in the break. during the clunkers for program. >> karl rove. there is a clue. that's a clue. gretchen: we have got to go. congratulations for becoming the astute norwegian of the year. i love that. >> thank you. gretchen: see you again, karl. >> thank you.

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steve: the answer to the trivia question today, brit ekland.

meanwhile, as the first h1n1 vaccines are live across the country, health workers in the york state have a state wide mandate requiring -- health workers in new york state have a health mandate to require them or they could get there -- lose their jobs if they do not take the vaccine. we were just talking in the break, reid, they are saying that unless you get the flu shot for h1n1 they could fire you. >> they are not using that language entirely. they are skating around it, talking about the condition of employment. steve: meaning that it -- you do not get it, they can do it. they do not want to say it because of lawsuits and all sorts of stuff. >> they are immune from any

lawsuits under current legislation. steve: tina, you look at this as a violation of your civil rights? >> absolutely. whenever you get a vaccine you have to sign for informed consent. they are not giving me that right. they are telling me that they have to -- i have to take it to keep my job. i have been a nurse for almost 20 years. to lose my career over a vaccine that i do not know anything about is not fair to me. steve: paula, you see this as a violation of your constitutional rights? >> that is correct. i do not even administer to the sec. i work for the well baby program. why should i get this vaccination? do everyone, then. do the whole world?

steve: why mandate just you guys. >> they are targeting us. steve: not even the center of disease control is suggesting that all health-care workers get this. just here in new york state. >> it is just a new york state mandate. it is a directive. it has not even been voted on in the new york state assembly. it is a unilateral decision from the health commissioner himself. steve: gee, thanks. we were talking in the break, one of the options -- the flu with, it is a -- flu myth, that it is a live virus. >> i work with critically ill people. if ireiva live vaccine i could potentially spread it to my patients, the one thing that the commissioner wants us to not

do. his focus is the patients, but that does not protect the patients. i have been washed my hands, that is how i protect them. steve: any of you going to get the shot? >> no. >> i will hold out until the very end. >> no, we are not going to get the shot. we are not trying to force our views on anybody, but we are trying to gather all of the people that think the same way that we do encourage them to stand strong. individually we are vulnerable but if we stand together we have a voice. steve: absolutely. we will keep watching this. thank you for joining us. straight ahead, charlie rangel of new york accused of cheating on his taxes. taxes, tax laws that he writes. he is still the head of the ways and means committee.

are his name's numbered -- are his days numbered? trace atkins will be with us. he is playing his latest single.

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it is all about putting your family first. our e-mail this morning comes from south carolina. it "to other morning shows are stuck in a rut -- "other morning shows are stuck in a route because "fox & friends" is kicking their but." gretchen: we are going to kick off this hour with trays adkins, but headlines are first. general david petraeus has been diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer. since february he has undergone two months of radiation treatment. he has gone on at least one overseas trip during this time. he has been able to keep his training regimen to route the time as well. the treatment is being called successful. an update to that shocking case of the mother that was stabbed.

remember this story? she was stabbed and her newborn baby was kidnapped out of her home. the suspect is telling police that she purchased the baby for $25,000. the baby is now safe. his three siblings are in state custody. a judge will review the case today to see if the children should go back to their real mother. erin andrews may not be the only victim of an accused peeping tom. prosecutors said michael barrett taped many other women in their hotel room. he is free on bond, but barred from using the internet. prosecutors say that he was obsessed with andrews and went through a lot of work to track her down. that is where they allegedly messed with the people and take her walking around -- taped her walking around naked.

united airlines, being creative in how to charge you for something that used to be freed. you can get a baggage past that covers up to eight people traveling with you. right now they charge $20 for the first bag, $30 for the second. $249, they say, is an introductory price for the past, so it sounds like you can go up. brian: laura is coming to was live from washington, d.c. there she is. welcome to the show. >> i know that the rule of television is to wear solid colors but i thought we should throw caution to the wind today. i am trying to be different every week. [laughter] did you guys something different. brian: way to go. steve: in "the wall street journal they are talking about the president's -- "the wall

street journal" they are talking about the president's health- care plan and how the democrats are creating a war on specialists. if you are a specialist of oncology or cardiology, those treatments cost too much and this plan is about saving money. >> those treatments cost too much until your life was saved. speaking of someone whose life was saved by these diagnostic tests, it did not surprise me when i read this piece. as we were talking about before, if only congress would understand that may be making some inroads into this idea of lawsuit reform, if they even attempted to tackle that problem this conversation about tests and what kind of tests would be much less pressing right now. i would find that if they would

tackle that we would not have to worry about this other problem. brian: every year one out of 10 physicians will be punished if they perform too many procedures or prescribed too many drugs, even if the treatment results in better patient outcome. >> heaven forbid we actually save lives with these tests. just because of my own breast cancer situation four years ago i have gotten to know a lot of these specialists in the washington, d.c., area. they are not political peeper -- political people. but they have studied for years to become specialists in this field. the idea that washington is willing to punish with this bizarre formula that no one really understands, you can do the math on that. what will that do to the specialty? they will become less and less popular because they will not be

worth it. sensible reform? yes. this does not make sense. gretchen: this photograph did not make sense either. we knew that president obama was going to be meeting with these handpick the doctors that all conveniently agree with his health care program. one of them forgot to bring a white lab coat, so he got some help so that the picture looked good. >> was that the one with the ponytail that just got there from woodstock? looks like jerry garcia. what next? of passing out stethoscopes? it was so bizarre. i am thinking only if we can roll up a ct scan of substance for this conference, i would be really happy. [laughter] if you know doctors, they do not walk around in their lab coats.

maybe in a hospital, but not if they are meeting with the president. it was ridiculous. steve: just to finish this conversation, we will be joined in the first hour of the show by tommy thompson, not necessarily in the game, but they are getting involved in the process to get some reform made. how do you feel about that? >> i think that these people should go back and listen to ronald reagan's speech on health care and nationalized health care from 1961. remember what he set about creating a platform where the government can continue to encourage personal liberty. this platform of health care reform is going to establish that base of continuing to erode our freedom. with all due respect to the former health and human services

secretary, we have got to look at what is in this bill, read it, given what we know about it already we have to start over. the idea of working with people that want to do what they are doing right now is preposterous. i have no use for people are not republicans. steve: sounds like the number one topic is that today could be the day that charlie rangel gets squeezed out of his job as the chair of the house ways and means committee. he forgot to be -- he forgot to pay taxes by millions of dollars, and yesterday there was press availability. watch how artfully he dodges the question. >> normally those questions would come through the press

conference. i assume that there would be other questions, and under your good faith of integrity and professionalism i assume we would be suspect. steve: you are asking a question about something i am not here to discuss, he is saying. what will happen? will he get squeezed out? >> of the republicans and democrats have interesting positions on this -- >> the republicans and democrats have interesting positions on this. republicans would almost like him to stay around, he is a poster boy of corruption of the left. for the democrats he is a 20 term veteran in the house of representatives. 20 terms. this guy has been around for a long time. he is incredibly powerful. given that, look, when nancy

pelosi said she would drain the swamp of corruption? remember that? [laughter] democrats have realized they have become a swamp monsters. [laughter] gretchen: other members of congress have given him an out. they have said why should they read the bills and he can use that defense -- why read the tax law? >> the rules apply to the little people. when you are a cabinet secretary in the obama administration, or of the czar, rules apply to the other person and i am charlie rangel. people are getting tired of bad behavior on both sides. brian: he wrote a column over the weekend saying how does someone that maxed out at $175,000 per year become a multimillionaire in new jersey in real estate? it is not logical. >> he should do one of those

press conferences from a condo in the dominican republic, one of the rent controlled ones he owns. [laughter] steve: not a bad idea. it would be not only a press conference but his opportunity to say that this is available and if you are interested, contact me. >> we have to get creative. passing of the step if it -- stethoscopes, the stands, helping people with their pr. gretchen: maybe they will get on board for term limits. >> we will never flat line on this show. gretchen: stick around, president obama talking about afghanistan. what should he say? steve: a big sticking point with healthcare, public versus private, two congressmen to be the issue next. steve: trace atkins will be

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brian: we are back with laura ingram, a radio talk-show host with a wonderful show. there is one thing that you should get serious about, bringing our troops overseas. i was surprised when george will said that maybe it was time to pull the troops out. where do you stand on the way forward from here on in? >> i am most interested in hearing from the general on the ground. mcchrystal is one of the most respected highly decorated war

ready generals we have ever had in the armed forces. when he is there and he says that the only way for us to win this is with more troops, you cannot let that request sit around and not comment on it. that was why it was ultimately leak. i cannot that -- cannot imagine that the general would have done that. as secretary gates said last night, this is the most serious decision facing president obama in his first term, obviously in the foreign policy military sense. this idea that you are playing out this whole dispute in public and it is tit-for-tat, then the president has a 25 minute meeting with general mcchrystal in copenhagen? 25 whole minutes?

wow, incredible. gretchen: they have held several meetings since that time because of all the bad press that came along with all of that 70 days with only one meeting. one thing that i find fascinating is that it seems to me that the general on the ground would have no political reason to give a recommendation one way or another, but the entire thing has turned political. >> he is worried about the mission, charged with the mission, worried about his men and women. that is what he is concerned about. if you put him in that position, and then you have got to trust to some extent what he says. you cannot let it sit there on his desk getting lost in the shuffle when president obama was in martha's vineyard. the whole thing was handled badly. steve: then you have got nancy pelosi chewing out stanley

mcchrystal for speaking dying craft -- speaking in public. >> the general mcchrystal is a patriot and a stand-up man. the country is obviously divided on the war but if we have to be in it we have to be in a bid to win it. i would like -- we have to be in it to win it. take care, guys. brian: 19 minutes after the hour. gretchen: president obama is working the phones, apparently, pressing the flesh behind-the- scenes, trying to get the public option back on the table. steve: look at all of those doctors. [laughter] how many of those are borrowed robes? at pennsylvania woman raise a black bear from when it was a cub -- a pennsylvania woman raises a black bear from when it was a cub and it turns around and kills her. can wild animals ever be raised

safely? brian: cabdrivers, upset over different forms of transportation. who will win and why? steve: they are lucky they did not get run over.

gretchen: the senate finance committee is scheduled to vote on the final health care bill that does not contain a government-run health care plan. the president and his administration are working behind the scenes to push the so-called public option on to the floor of the congress. we are joined this morning by anthony wiener and mike rogers. good morning, both of you. congressman wiener, i know that you have been in strong support

of the public option plan. do you think that it will come back on the table? do you think that the president is pushing senators to put it back in the plan? >> it will be in the house plan because it is the way that we save money. without competition and choice, cbo says that it will not work. if we leave it to insurance companies they will keep doing what they are doing, raising the premiums by about $1,000 every year. most fiscally conservative people want it in there to have a control costs. cbo says that with the public option we saved money. >> cbo said that the house bill cost us over $1 trillion in new debt and there is no competition. in michigan, i can go to indiana to purchase a car, my life insurance, but not health insurance.

even though the same plan as $300 cheaper. we should remove those barriers. having a government plan that sets the rules, telling you the treatment that you cannot get, it is not competition. medicare is a great example. three times higher in administrative costs than any other private plan. why would be subject the rest of america to something that is not working well? gretchen: the president appears to be pushing the public option again. there has been no direct signal from the white house that he is really 100% behind the government-run option. >> frankly, the congress has come out in strong support of the option. administrative and overhead costs of public and private lands are at about 30% compared to medicare. it is funny that you would get

another republican critic criticize in medicare. 96% of all seniors say that they like it. that is the plan that americans say that they like. for 44 years my republican friends have been trying to undermine it. >> the funny thing is that they just cut medicare by $500 billion. gretchen: so, of which one is it? >> first of all, it is not. they do not take fraud into consideration and cost. medicare is the most expensive health care treatment. if you spread that out they are three times more efficient than any private plan. they are picking and choosing. medicare is a plan that you pay into and never take a dime out. they are saying that we are one to put a million americans and will plan that does not pay the cost of a doctor today and somehow magically the math will work at the end of the day.

if it is too good to be true, it is. breaking a system that is taking care of seniors that needs help anyways. if we cannot stop 10% of fraud, no business could survive. gretchen: congressman wiener, but you think? >> medicare picks and chooses? it covers everyone over 65. private insurance. my colleague does not like medicare he is with a lot of his colleagues in the republican party. 65 and older? why not 64? why not 63? the public option is just that. gretchen: it is the 65 and older crowd that appeared to be against health care reform. great to have you both with us this morning. there is a new game on facebook that is a little frightening. you can be a terrorist blowing up targets like the statue of liberty. does it go too far?

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gretchen: half past the hour, time for some quick headlines. new reports from south korea claimed that the north is in the final stages of restoring their nuclear plant. something that kim jong il promised to do back in april after the u.n. condemned their launch of a rocket. north korea said that it was a peaceful attempt at putting a space satellite into orbit. brian: i think of that country is a problem. president obama is the first president not to meet with the dalai lama since 1991. human rights groups are accusing the president of trying to keep chinese officials happy by putting off the meeting. spokespeople insist that the president will meet with the dalai lama next month after his own visit to china. steve: there is a battle all

over these handbags. coach says that the ones being sold at target look just like theirs. this is the second time they have tangled, going head-to-head over knockoffs. three years ago they settled out of court. i cannot help. brian: knockouts and knockoffs. gretchen: a pedicab operator and a cabbie, they are tossed into the street, punching each other. one man happened to catch the entire fight as others tried to break it up. steve: what do you do? brian: break it up. steve: what if that guy punches you? gretchen: some people do not help others anymore. gretchen: the pedicab driver eventually hurls a trash can.

cops showed up but the pedicab driver got away. brian: -- steve: do not be surprised, with that videotape, if they are identified before noon. brian: the air force 911 team is providing a crucial lifeline to the soldiers. casey is coming to us live from afghanistan. what is going on today? >> and a lot of good stuff for you. the reason this is called the 911 mobility response force of the errors " -- of the air force is because of its ability to deploy into a region quickly. the air force has an important responsibility here on the front line. multiple airplanes use this runway every single day. clearly the security of the aircraft as they arrive and depart is paramount.

that is where the job of security forces of the contingency response wing come in. they play a huge role on the ground. these heavily armored vehicles are constantly patrolling the airfield, looking for anything unusual. joining us as staff sgt grant perry. tell us, what are the biggest challenges? >> the largest we have had so far as the coalition forces -- so far is the coalition forces. communications have played a large role in force protection around the air base. that is our priority. >> you are working with other branches of the military as well, looking for things like ied's. the other big concern when it comes to airplanes is surface to air missiles as the airplanes get closer and closer to the ground.

another important role of the crw is moving cargo, loading and unloading those military planes. all of those supplies are brought in by the air. it is a true test of it that the u.s. air force is all in this more, building that partnership capacity, keeping other branches of the military up to date. the crw does not stay down on the ground for long. they are an advance team that trains other members of the military, then they leave. very cool to see as we have been imbedded with these guys. steve: thank you, casey, for that live report. brian: he has got a brand new album called x. >> we have discussed that. steve: that is a roman numeral.

brian: how much does this cost a guy like me? >> 30 bucks for a guy like you. [laughter] he is rich. he has a radio show. brian: look at that body language. what does it say to you? you have studied bill o'reilly. steve: he is open to all takers. >> i will close up. [laughter] steve: two can play that game. do you have a facebook web site? twitter? >> i do. i do not do it, i pay someone to do it. i do not know how. i do not want to. steve: there is a facebook game called al qaeda wars where you can apparently be a terrorist. you can blow up the eiffel tower, lots of iconic stuff around the world.

some people are asking why we would do that? >> probably because it is fun. i do not know. i do not get into too much of that stuff. i do pay attention to what my little girls are doing. i do not really lean much towards terrorist aims. -- games. more tennis on wii. steve: exactly. gretchen: but if you have little boys, they might like that kind of thing. i have a problem with a car blowing up the eiffel tower. >> i would be concerned. if one of my kids was playing that. i would be. but if you were playing it i would not be worried. brian: because we are done raising steve. [laughter] >> his threatening days are long gone.

he was giving me sting. i saw that. steve: stink eye. gretchen: all right. i am up to speed. you were on the david letterman show. >> a long time ago. gretchen: have you seen the latest situation there? >> you cannot help but see those clips and here you guys talking about it. gretchen: last night he spoke about it again after revealing that he had had relationships with some of his office staffers. he apologized to his wife last night. >> the other thing is that my wife, regina, she has been horribly heard by my behavior. when something happens like that, if you heard a person and it is your responsibility you try to fix it. two things can happen. he will make progress and get it

fixed or even fall short. let me tell you, folks, i have got my work cut out for me. steve: if i had had a weekend after that revelation and showed up on television on monday, there would be a dent in the side of my head. >> if i was still trying to apologize while trying to get a laugh at the same time she wrongly attacked me on said. -- she would probably attack me on the set. brian: you got it. there's a big gala tomorrow night, the armed forces will be there. why was it important that you play that show? >> i did the uso gala a couple of years ago whenever i was awarded that uso merit award. it was a huge honor.

any time the day call i tried to show up, anywhere, anytime. -- any time that day call i tried to show up, anywhere, anytime. i have so much respect for the guy, i want to be there again tomorrow. the same with the west for the game, looking -- west point game, looking forward to that. steve: you are going to sing for us in a little bit? [laughter] gretchen: more information on the gala at foxnews.com. brian: you have been to iraq twice. going afghanistan? >> been there. brian: been there already? steve: trace adkins, coming up. meanwhile a pennsylvania woman raised a black bear as a pet for 10 years. the bear turned on her suddenly.

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steve: for nearly 10 years a woman kept a bear in a pet in a cage in her home. one day she stepped in to feed them clean the bear just like she did every day, but this time it turned on her. it attacked her and mauled her to death. brian: a member of the california game commission is with us. on the outside, calvin, does it surprise you when a wild bear attacks? is there a sense that they can ever be domesticated? >> i do not believe so. they are wild animals. they behave in that way. steve: there is a reason that they are kept behind bars. is this not one of those things where someone -- i understand that the family had comments,

although one had expired, they can sell exotic animals. over time people think that they know how the animal things and they trust them. >> they do. they develop a relationship with the animal, they believe that they can trust them. but that trust needs to be carefully applied. you can believe that they are domesticated but they are still wild animals. brian: what happened here? here she is, feeding this they are in a 15 foot cell by 15 foot, what you think triggered the animal? >> that is very difficult to say. unless you were there am looking at the circumstances. many times these kinds of attacks are unprovoked. actually there are secure facility is attached to this.

the bear should have been sequestered while she cleaned the cage but she did not do that. steve: it is a terrible case of the bear and, months ago, that woman in connecticut mauled by an ape. it was just awful. is a lesson here not to just keep wild animals out of your home? >> wild animals are wild animals. depending on your perspective, people begin to treat them as pets. they begin to fuss with them and it is misplaced trust. brian: the bear went down, the woman lost her life. >> thank you. steve: when we come back, trace adkins is going to sing his latest single. first, bill hemmer, what is at the top of the hour? bill: i could like football.

[laughter] the morning. new concerns -- i could play football. [laughter] good morning. new concerns on health care. also, the future of acorn, how much money was embezzled? an elderly woman was taken over by a swarm of raccoons. she is fighting to recover. what is up with that? 8w

gretchen: we are excited because we have country star trace adkins with us. without further ado, here is the performance of his newest single, all i ask for any more from his new album, x.

trace adkins, take it away. ♪ >> ♪ was tied it was a home run when the game was tied a pick up truck when i could drive one pink line when katie said i'm late it was a passing grade, a pretty girl all the money in the world what mattered then kept changing every day but when i bow my head tonight there'll be no me myself and i just watch my wife and kids

please lord that's all i ask for any more now a days it's crazy how a passing storm, a siren sound can make me drop it all and pick up the phone to hear her say that all's okay is all i need to know these days can't wait to see their faces when i get home and when i bow my head tonight

there'll be no me myself and i just watch my wife and kids please lord that's all i ask for any more let 'em outlive me by a hundred years let their laughter dry up all their tears let 'em love and be loved back like i have been when i bow my head tonight there'll be no me myself and i

just watch my wife and kids please lord that's all i ask for any more that's all that matters anymore ♪ [applause] steve: how pretty was that? very nice. kind of spiritual, but it makes sense. using a lot of gospel -- you saying a lot of gospel in high school, right? >> before -- you sang a lot of

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