y eloquent speech and think he rose to the challenge of being the mourner in chief. >> i would agree. i think it was a very sober speech. it was respectful to the fallen and he did have that reference that we saw to the element of jihadism. bill: wait a minute. the anti-obama fox network praising the president's speech at fort hood? what's that all about? dick morris on whether the president is handling the massacre properly. >> i think that there's been so much focus on the fact that he's a muslim. when the focus should be on the fact that the military did not pick up on the fact that this guy was emotionally disturbed. bill: more debate over the killer hassan's mental state as opposed to his jihad fanaticism. sally quinn will be here. >> keep it real. think slow. bill: and the being aor nicholas cage in big trouble -- and the actor nicholas cage in big trouble. he owes $6 million to the i.r.s. will he join wesley snipes in the slammer?

is it legal? caution, you're about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] hi. i'm bill o'reilly. thank you for watching us tonight. it is veterans day and we thank all of you out there who have served your country. america is the strongest nation on earth, largely because of you. the military and the fort hood massacre, that is the subject of this evening's "talking points" memo. a new rasmussen poll said 81% of americans have a favorable view of the military, just 9%, just 9%, unfavorable. now, i'm guessing some of that 9% in the media. but now there's a military controversy over the nissan hasan. the information was passed along to the army and the army said that's not true. only a congressional investigate will get to the

bottom of this and there should be one because there's no question, no question, that nidal malik hasan is a terrorist. a man who murdered 13 innocent people because of jihad, the muslim holly war. as "talking points" stated last night, the massacre at fort hood is not a crime, a tragedy, norlt the action of a man snapping. it is an act of war perpetrated by a muslim terrorist who believes that infidels should die. now, we all know the obama administration and many other americans have trouble with that kind of definition. they don't want to be seen demonizing islam. i understand that. but not all germans in world war ii were evil. and many good americans fought for the south in the civil war. the folks know all muslims aren't terrorists. ok? so we should stop the nonsense. it is important for america to teach the world that terrorism must be confronted, not misdefined. with all due respect to president obama, you don't win hearts and minds by avoiding the problem. the problem is fanatical muslims killing innocent

americans and other so-called infidels. that's the problem. so the president should wise up and try to rally the world against these killers. nidal malik hasan should have been flagged, neutralized and dealt with but he wasn't. because some people in america continue to run away from the problem. and that's the memo. for the top story tonight while i disagree with the president's definition of the terrorism at fort hood, his speech yesterday contained some good things. and most analysts here at fox news, the so-called anti-obama network, recognized that. >> i thought he gave a very eloquent speech. i think he rose to the challenge of being the mourner in chief. i think that many -- most presidents have an occasion in their term when they have to do this. and i think he did it really well. >> i would agree. i think it was a very sober speech. it was respectful to the fallen. and he did have that reference that we saw to the element of jihadism in this attack. >> i think the president's speech actually was pretty good. bill: barack obama wants to win

hearts and minds in the middle east and in the muslim world, which is a good thing. and joining us now from boston with analysis, dick morris, the author of the big best seller "catastrophe" makes a great christmas holiday gift. so dick, do you think the fort hood massacre is helping president obama in the job approval polls or hurting him? >> beginning to hurt. he bounced up to 50 and 51 in rasmussen and now back to 46. there was once a guy named o'reilly who went on television during the campaign and said that if there was a terrorist attack during obama's presidency, it would be all over for him. and i think obama agreed with o'reilly on that. and i think when this attack occurred, the white house went into overdrive to try to persuade people this was sort of an adult version of the v.m.i. massacre or the

columbine high school massacre. that this was a demented, deranged guy who didn't want to go to afghanistan, who was a misfit, and so on. and what can you do? but the more information comes out, the more it is very clear that this was the first terrorist attack on american soil since 9-11. and i would go further. i would raise two key questions that need to be addressed. number one, this was not a shooting at a shopping mall or a high school. this was an army base. why do we have so lax security when we should have perfect security? and the second question is did the role of political correctness or the inhibitions about violating civil liberties or any of the stuff that holder is raising in the justice department influence the f.b.i. and the army in their highly cautious handling of this situation? bill: well, i agree with you. there has to be a very intense congressional investigation, to find out who knew what, when they knew it, who they told and why it wasn't acted upon.

let's get back to president obama. i thought his speech yesterday at the memorial service was dw good. -- was good. i didn't think it was great. it was good. the initial reaction to the shooting, the murders, the massacre, was bad. you remember when he got to the podium he was waving at his friends, monica crowley pointed this out to me and i looked at it. and he was almost -- it was almost hurricane katrina bush-like in the sense he didn't feel urgency in the beginning and said let's not rush to judgment but he rushed to judgment in the cambridge, massachusetts. so there were all kinds of mixed signals coming out of the white house in the first day. the second day they got it together. but i'm not -- i think -- i think the american people and the polls show this overwhelmingly believe it was a terrorist act. and they're wondering why the commander in chief won't acknowledge it. >> yeah. exactly. it's a good idea if you're president not to do anything that the average third grader knows is not true. everybody knows this was a terror attack. and when the president gets up

and refuses to label it as such, and spends 95% of the eulogy on the brave fallen soldiers, which was great, but only 5% on the perpetrator, and on what it represents, i think that's a serious mistake. bill: so what would you have told him to do? say you -- all right. go ahead. >> when he says no religion, no faith, i think he said no faith can justify this, well, it's not faith. this is politics. this is political. this was a terror attack. this is -- this isn't an act of islam. bill: but it is under the banner of holy war in the muslim religion. so i don't think he was inaccurate. but i'm going to put -- you were an advisor to clinton and now an advisor to obama, before the speech is given, you look at the speech, and you say it's heavy on ladding the people who were measured -- laugged the people who were murdered but light on who murdered them so you say what to obama? what would you tell him to say?

>> i'll say to him this is the situation where you can either be the accuser or the accused. if you're the accused, everybody is going to say why were you so soft on terror, that you let this happen? what was it in your approach to terrorism that let our guard down when it's been up for eight years? on the other hand, if you get up there and you say i want to know why this guy was not spotted, i want to know why he was still allowed on the military base, this is an act of war against the united states by this guy, and it doesn't matter if it's one person or 19 people, doing something, it still is a terrorist attack. bill: so you would have been hard on the terrorist attack. >> i would have. bill: obama and his people will say what good does that do? it just gets the middle east up in arms again. it just -- we're making progress there. they're cooperating with us a little bit more. and now we're throwing it in their face again like bush did. so why bother doing it? it's going to hurt the country

and you say? >> we're not making any progress there. and secondly the issue here is that when the president goes on national tv, and tries to essentially mischaracterize this, and to squelch anyone focusing on it as a terror attack, because he wants to avoid political blame for the first attack on our soil since 9-11, everybody knows it. bill: but i don't think anybody is blaming obama for the attack. i don't think rational people would blame president obama. >> but i think -- yeah, of course not. but a lot of people will say that by attempting to disguise it from being a terror attack and treating it as an act of violence rather than using the word "terrorism" he's trying to -- a sleight of hand and trying to pretend that this was not the first terror attack since 9-11 on our soil. bill: there is certainly that. dick morris, everybody. next on the rundown, some in the liberal media pound the mental illness drum regarding hasan. and later on "the factor," actor nicholas cage in big trouble. he owes the i.r.s. $6 million.

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bill: impact segment, the controversy over thousand define major hasan continues. -- over how to define major hasan continues. 60% want it investigated as a terrorist act. 27% think it was a criminal act. to be dealt with in civilian court. but in the media, it's a

different story. >> there's been so much focus on the fact that he's a muslim. when the focus should be on the fact that the military did not pick up on the facts that this guy was emotionally disturbed. bill: joining us from d.c. is sally quinn, founder of "the washington post" feature on faith. so why can't we do both here? i want to find out about the army and what they knew and why they didn't take action. but why can't we call the guy a muslim terrorist because he is one, and investigate as well? you seem to have a problem with the muslim terrorist designation. >> no. actually, i don't. what i think is that right now, everybody is trying to simplify the situation. and it is extremely complicated. there are so many different factors involved. and we don't know a lot. and he may well be a terrorist. bill: i'm one of the guys trying to simplify. so i'm going to say how i see it and you say -- you tell me where i'm wrong. >> ok.

bill: a guy who is a troubled man. you agree? >> right. bill: ok. troubled man. we start there. he gets a poor evaluation at walter reed where he works prior to fort hood. not doing his job very well. transferred out to texas. then they find out, the f.b.i. does, that he's emailing a big shot in al qaeda in yemen. ok. now we have a troubled man who's interested in jihad. he's interested in al qaeda. for some reason. all right? so far you with me? >> i'm there. bill: i'm keeping it real simple. so then for some reason, he blends the jihad with the troubledness, picks up a couple of guns, and murders 13 people and wounds 30 others. ok. i am ascribing that to his jihad philosophy combined with whatever near oasis was eating him -- whatever neurosis was

eating him. >> actually, that's very complicated. bill: what's complicated about that? >> timothy mcveigh was called a terrorist. bill: and he is. >> i don't know whether that's the right -- probably he was. bill: a terrorist act, blow up an office building and kill people. it's a terrorist act. >> this guy was clearly disturbed. he was clearly -- jihad means many different things. he was muslim. most muslims believe that violence -- they're against violence. but there are -- there are a large number of muslims who -- bill: but he was interested in jihad. he was a muslim emailing al qaeda. he was a muslim screaming alla akbar when he was gunning people down. come on. i don't get why you guys, and i'm generalizing. >> wait a minute. bill: i don't get why you don't call it what it is. he's a jihadist. >> well, that may well be. and i do think that there should be a lot of

investigation about this. not some but a lot. starting with how did he get into medical school? how did he get through -- bill: the army put him through school. he enlisted in the army and they did everything for him. >> why is he treating patients? why were they not picking up on the fact he was making speeches and saying that this was a war -- that iraq and afghanistan were wars against islam. bill: all of that is valid. >> the guy had red flags coming out of his ears. bill: fine. and we need to know that. but you -- you have a hard time saying the words "muslim terrorist." and so does obama. he has a hard time saying it. i don't know why you guys are -- why? why? >> well, i think, you know, first of all, there are different kinds of terrorists. bill: he's a muslim terrorist. what do you mean different kinds of terrorists? he kills people. under the banner of jihad. that's who he is. look, what do you want him to come to your house with a strap-on bomb? the guy did it for jihadist reasons.

a la akbar. that's the slogan. emails al qaeda. ms. quinn, you're a brilliant woman. and i'm not saying that facetiously. you are. this is a third grader gets this. and you're resisting it. i want to know why. >> bill, you're making a very good case. he's a muslim. and he may well end up being a terrorist. we don't know for sure. bill: i know for sure. 90% of the people watching me know for sure. i don't know why you don't know for sure. what else do you need? >> i mean, you know, you can call the guy who blew up -- who shot up the holocaust museum a terrorist. bill: did he yell alla akbar and he emailed an al qaeda in yemen, i would call him that, ms. quinn. >> ok. he's a muslim terrorist. bill: thank you. sally quinn, everybody. we appreciate it. a long road but we got there. directly ahead, if ralph nader were president, and he wanted to be, what would he do to defeat islamic terrorism?

mr. nader will be here. and later, pat robertson goes after the religion of islam. we will show it to you and discuss whether mr. robinson attacking muslims all over the world does the nation any good. upcoming as "the factor" continues all across the u.s.a. and all around the world.

bill: ralph nader has run for president three times and wanted to know what he thought about the fort hood situation. author of the brand new book "only the superrich can save us." in bookstores across the country. joining from us washington. we'll give you the last two minutes of the interview to plug the book. it's a good book and i like the concept. the fort hood massacre, what

we've been talking about the first few segments here. in your opinion, is it an act of terrorism? >> it's a massacre. what more do you want? it's the strongest word. bill: massacres can come from a variety of different people. they can come from terrorists or they can come from criminals, the purple -- what was that, murder incorporated, the st. valentine's day massacre, those are criminals. is this a terrorist act or just criminal? >> i'm not clairvoyant like you are. it's a premeditated massacre. we'll leave the army courts to decide any elaborations when he's tried. if he survives. bill: you don't want to say it was a terrorist act. and a lot of people feel the same way you do. president obama, just convinced sally quinn to change her mind but it took every ounce of energy i had. why -- >> bill, look, i wasn't brought on this program to discuss fort hood. i was brought on to discuss my new work of fiction, how to change things fundamentally in this country. top down, bottom up.

with well enlightened, real rich people and fixing -- if you want to talk about terror, there are -- there's all kinds of terror around the world. and i'm worried about the preventable death of hundreds of thousands of americans in this country due to hospital infections, due to occupational disease for blue collar workers, due to air pollution and other toxic chemicals, due to the lack of neo-natal care, due to the lack of health insurance for tens of thousands of americans who die every year because they can't afford health care. bill: so if you were president -- >> to treat their diseases. let's give -- let's give -- let's give these americans some -- some of our compassion. bill: so if you were elected president, and you were confronted with a fort hood massacre, by a muslim army major, you would say, you know, i'm not real interested in that. i want to solve all of these other social problems. and i'm not really interested in the terror aspect and the jihadists and things like that.

is that what you're going to tell the american people? is that what you're going to tell them? >> unlike you, can i chew gum and walk at the same time. -- i can chew gum and walk at the same time. bill: all right. chew gum on the terror angle. how would you solve it? >> they know how to enforce the law against massacres. you can rely on that. bill: 13 people are in the ground. the army booted it. they had information or so the f.b.i. says, that this guy was a terrorist. and they didn't do anything about it. look, ralph, here's what i'm trying to get at. you're a smart guy and ran for president three times. and i'm trying to get the american leadership here to step up and to tell the people what the dangers is. you're right. there are a lot of things in our society that need to be healed and we need to do better. and you write about them very well. but you dodge -- you dodge the jihad and the iranian situation and all of these other very dangerous things. you, ralph, nader, dodge it. why? >> you know, bill, i remember, you admitted you were wrong about the reasons which were

false for going to war in iraq. which have taken thousands of american lives, hundreds of thousands of american injuries and disease. and a million iraqi lives. so show a little perspective here about who's been right and who's wrong. we opposed that criminal war in iraq from the get-go. months before the drums started -- bill: you're dodging again. ute rure -- but you're right. i was wrong about iraq but you're dodging again. i'll give you the rest of the time. it's $20 or so to buy your book. why should people buy it? why should they spend the money? >> they should buy it because if they want to gain their sovereignty and put substance back in we the people, as ron paul and others want to, they will want to read how, the number of real enlightened americans, many of them world war ii vets, in fictional roles to be sure, like warren buffett and joe jamale and ted turner and william gates sr. and others, get together in 2006 and say, we're going to put a lot of our money to support

working people in this country, mobilize communities, neighborhoods, put this laser beam on the political shenanigans in washington, and take on the corporate power structure and a titanic power struggle. bill: you want the wealthy -- the wealthiest americans to take on the washington establishment. and that's what you write about in the book. >> yeah. the retired superrich who have some significance to their work now and have some wisdom, taking on the entrenched speculators and crooks in wall street and their political allies. bill: ralph, you know i don't like the speculators. you know i don't like it. >> leslie stahl calls it engrossing, creative and funny. bill: if leslie stahl called it that, how can you not read it? ralph nader, plenty more as "the factor" moves along. a big is it legal segment, nicholas cage owes millions to the i.r.s. and jennifer lopez suing her first husband for $10 million. and later, pat robertson scorching islam.

did you see that? we hope you stay tuned for those reports.

bill: unresolved problem segment tonight, there was intense debate over whether public money should pay for abortions in the obama care legislation. the issue is not defined but there is no question abortion remains very controversial in this country. and enter abby johnson, former director of planned parenthood and -- in brian, texas, ms. johnson had a conversion and says abortion is wrong and is speaking out against planned parenthood which is trying to

stop her. a judge lifted a temporary gag order on ms. johnson who joins us now from houston with sean carney, national campaign director for 40 days for life. an anti-abortion group. what does planned parenthood not want you to say and what do they fear? >> i think that they're nervous that i am going to continue to speak out and tell people that their business model has changed. and that, you know, this prevention that they preach about maybe is not really what planned parenthood is all about. and with the downward economy, they are really trying to increase their abortion numbers. because that is the most lucrative part of their business. bill: do you believe that based upon what you saw in bryan, texas? do you believe planned parent hood is an abortion mill trying to profit off that? >> yeah. i absolutely believe -- i saw them trying to increase their abortion numbers. i saw them increase their

abortion numbers. bill: how do they do that? how do you increase an abortion number? >> well, they increase their accessibility to abortion for women. so, for instance, the clinic that i worked at, usually we only did abortions every other saturday. and they said you know what? that's not really enough. we really need to be able to open this up to allowing women to have abortions almost every day during the week. bill: ok. now, your conversion from pro-abortion person to pro-life person, how did that happen? >> well, i actually saw an ultrasound guided abortion procedure which is not very common in large abortion facilities plike planned parenthood. -- like planned parenthood. they're a more lengthy procedure. but i did actually get to see an ultrasound guided procedure. and what i saw on the screen was a 13 week baby fighting for its life.

bill: and instantly you said this is wrong, i shouldn't be at planned parenthood and i should be pro-life? did that happen instantly? >> well, what i saw was this baby fighting. and i had flashes in my head of my own daughter. i remembered having an ultrasound at 12 weeks with my own daughter. and i just was thinking, what am i doing? i was thinking, i've never seen this before. and planned parenthood really tries to instill in their employees and the women that are coming in for abortions that this is not a baby. that this is just a mass of cells. don't say baby in the clinic. don't say baby to the women coming in for an abortion. and so you begin to believe that. you begin to believe that it's not a life. bill: mr. carney, the court case that temporarily prevented ms. johnson from speaking about planned parenthood, was pretty intense. they went after abby pretty hard, did they not? >> they did, bill.

and it shows that this organization refuses to accept, particularly from one of their own, that somebody can have a change of heart on this issue. and the judge threw it out because they presented no evidence that she had a breach of contract. she simply saw a baby fight for its life only to obviously lose that fight before her eyes and she changed her position. and she came to 40 days for life and knew that we would be accepting of her. we hold vigils across the country for people obviously having abortions. but also the people who work in this industry. and she trusted that. she was confident in it. and planned parenthood refuses to accept that. bill: well, obviously, it's a very emotional issue. now, in your experience, do you demonize women who have abortions, mr. carney? do you guys do that kind of stuff? because that really makes americans uncomfortable. >> right. this is a pessful effort.

-- this is a peaceful effort. we're there for women going into the clinic for abortions and also for women who work in this industry. abby is actually the 26th abortion clinic worker who has approached us after her clinic was the site of one of our vigils, they left that industry, abby is the only planned parenthood director who had a conversion and left her job. but we are there for these workers. bill: but it's a soft persuasion? >> pro-lifers have to be there to support them and not judge them and not be radical. bill: it's a soft persuasion. >> absolutely. this is a peaceful effort. it's not violent. it's approachable. and abby's case proves that. because she felt the warmth of the people out there. and that's why she left that industry and had somewhere to go. bill: all right. very interesting story. ms. johnson, mr. carney, we appreciate you coming on "the factor" this evening. we come right back. is it legal? j-lo suing husband number one for $10 million.

and a massachusetts man, this is a fascinating case, he's fired for saying he opposes gay marriage to a homosexual. in massachusetts. legal is next. úpxx

bill: thanks for staying us with.

in the "is it legal" segment four hot topics beginning with san francisco and crem international illegal aliens under the -- and criminal illegal aliens and -- we have kimberly guilfoyle and attorney lis wiehl, author of the big best seller "face of betrayal." all right. so this has been going on because of the murder of three men. father and two sons. by an illegal alien who was a violent guy and not reported to i.c.e. when he committed violent crimes as a juvenile. the city supervisors don't care. and overturned -- newcomb said would he do the right thing but newcomb said i don't care. -- newsom said i don't care. >> the supervisors said for political reasons we're going to overturn his veto. but newsom is in the right way -- is in the right here.

bill: can he fire the supervisor sns >> he has to go to court and that will be in the proceedings to do that. but the supremacy clause in the constitution says that when there's a battle between a federal law and a state law, this is a state law. the san francisco law. bill: federal law takes precedence. >> federal law takes precedent and the federal law, 1373 of the u.s. code says that when u an illegal alien, you are not -- not barred, you are not prohibited for turning that illegal alien over to i.c.e. and that's what they're trying to do here. bill: that language is not prohibited. then the city of san francisco says, well, we don't want you to do this. and newsom unilaterally throws that outment >> it says more than that. it says not -- notwithstanding any other state or lal law. -- or local law. bill: you can do it but they don't compel you to do it. >> and that's a loophole in the law, absolutely. bill: you were prosecutor in san francisco. >> in san francisco, d.a.'s office and former first lady when i was married to gavin newsom. bill: you were married to the guy.

>> that's correct. bill: and is newsom going to say blank you to the spe supervisors and do what he wants? >> legally speaking, yes. because he's not going to abide by this and nare acting in violation of federal law. bill: he will tell the police, newsom, the mayor, you report any minor illegal alien, violent criminals, to i.c.e. >> that's going to be his position. bill: his order. >> and also extend to the district attorney's office. having worked there i saw this first hand. that they need to enforce it and the judges on the bench need to support the prosecutor's office. bill: do you think the loons in san francisco, and i'm not saying this about the police force or the d.a.'s office -- >> the board of supervisors. >> they're loons. bill: but are the cops and the prosecutors going to side with your ex-husband, the mayor? >> that remains to be seen. bill: it does? >> so far i have not seen that. the district attorney's office and some of the judges there are willing to go that far. this is a city as you no that is liberal. and doesn't have specific policies about immigration,

i've not seen it enforced before, they should, they're violating the law. bill: so bottom line is we don't know who is going to win? >> it's going to end up in court. bill: but it's a matter of the cops and the prosecutors cooperating. >> that's right. bill: city viferse, they don't have anything -- city viferse, they don't have anything to do with it. a guy working in massachusetts, a gay co-worker who is married, a woman, right? lesbian. and he finally says to the lesbian after a bunch of discussion, i don't really think your lifestyle is appropriate. right? >> right. he felt that she kind of go aheaded him into it. that she knew his opinions and viewpoint and was a devout christian and taunted him by saying -- bill: i'm married, i'm married, i'm married. >> which is her prerogative, her right to do. but did it cross the line and make it an uncomfortable environment for him because he had went to church and went to the chapel and came back and made these comments to her. bill: i don't really think that this is a good thing. and he got fired. >> yeah. he received a letter of termination and they said we have a zero --

bill: who is we? >> brook stone who he works for. bill: the little gadget store. what do you say? >> i say this case stinks in the sense that he should not have been fired. at the most he should have gotten a warning saying you can't do this. this woman said four times that her fiancee was waiting outside. these were not friends. bill: we don't know because we weren't there. >> well, the problem is i found the letter from brookstone to peter, the guy that was fired. and in that letter, it does say that there was a sales associate there who signed a written statement saying you said more than just it was bad stuff. that it was deviant behavior and all of that. and technically, that violates the company's zero tolerance policy. so technically he's out. >> what about a warning? bill: but working for somebody, confront somebody's lifestyle, you can't say it's immoral -- you can't do that. >> and she was go d'g him on. -- she was goading him on.

bill: nicholas cage, same thing as wesley snipes, owes taxes, my business manager, he screwed up. is that an active defense? >> no. it's not. bill: cage has to pay the money back? >> the i.r.s., he wants a jury trial. i read the complaint. he wants a jury trial which is good for cage because people love cage. they will want to be there for him. but his defense is basically i didn't listen or my investor told me bad things. the i.r.s. doesn't care about that. bill: every american has to sign your taxes. >> and the other problem is the agreement between cage and this investor accountant was an oral agreement. so there's nothing in writing. bill: cage is in trouble. >> he's in trouble. bill: cage and snipes could be together. >> what a movie that would be. >> you have to pay your taxings. bill: jennifer lopez, first husband, trying to make money off her and has some tape. showing activity that jennifer doesn't want out there. and jennifer is suing the guy for $10 million. is that a smart play?

>> she will never get any money from him unless he wins the superlotto but you have to enforce the restraining order that she has against him that prevents him from putting forward any movies, screenplay or borat life. bill: but sue him nor $10 million? >> it's basically for show. she will never recover those damages. bill: does she want that publicity? >> she wants to put it forth so she can prevent him -- a honeymoon tape. >> but it's the same law firm representing cage and j-lo so the law firm -- sorry. lawyers out there. a little bit -- bill: are you saying they want publicity? >> lawyers wanting publicity? >> shocker. bill: i don't know what good it does for j-lo, if there's an injunction enforce the injunction. next, pat robertson scorches islam and jane fonda with more controversial things to say.

bill: back of the book segment, did you see that? we begin with pat robertson taking no prisoners when talking about islam. >> islam is a violent, i was going to say religion but a political system, a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination. that is the ultimate aim. bill: joining us from washington, fox news anchor jane skinner. so jane, does that do any good for america or anybody slamming islam like that? >> certainly not -- and certainly not particularly interestingly enough if you're the newly elected governor of virginia, a guy by the name of bob mcdonell who has ties to pat robertson, i don't think what robertson said this week would have made such headlines because he has condemned the religion before. and pretty explicit terms. but because he did it and he was a big donor for mcdonell's

campaign, it was a big upset for the democrats in virginia last week. it has made a fair amount of headlines. the big issue also in mcdonell's campaign was a thesis that he had written while he was at regent university which is robertson's university. and it raised the question during the campaign of just how conservative is bob mcdonell? because in that thesis, he criticized working women saying they were detrimental to the family. bill: wow. and he still got elected. >> he did. by almost 60% of the vote. and people asked him -- bill: robertson basically -- and a lot of people agree with robertson. because it's an emotional topic. when you have a specific set of people trying to kill you, muslim terrorists, there's going to be resentment toward the banner that they're under. it's not fair. it's not right. i continue to believe most muslims are good people all over the world. and not saying that to be p.c. i think that's true. but robertson comes out and he

just whacks it. and i'm saying to myself, i know reverend robertson and i know he's an honest man. i know he believes what he's saying but i'm not sure that helps the country. and you say it does or does not help the country? >> it doesn't. and i'm sure he does believe what he's saying. and bill, there are legitimate questions in the wake of this fort hood shooting. about whether political correctness played a role in preventing the full investigation of major hasan as you've talked about. but that's not what robertson is saying here. what he's doing is condemning an entire religion. saying it's all about jihad and actually in this case, this week, he's actually just dismissing an entire religion. and on the point of there are peaceful muslims out there, a couple of american muslim groups, islamic groups, were the first groups within hours to come out and hold news conferences, issue statements, condemning what hasan had done. bill: ok. let's go to boston. you got the t. the underground train and it's a good system. and this lady who is blown out of her mind on alcohol and she

kind of falls on the train tracks. now, there's a guy and he doesn't know what to do with this woman because there's a train coming and trying to flag the train that there's a woman there. and the train does eventually stop because of all these people trying to save the woman. it's a close call. but she is ok. now, here's the question. here's the question. if you see somebody who's inebriated, stoned, drunk, whatever it may be, putting themselves at risk, what that whom did, what's your obligation to save the woman? the guy could have jumped down on the track. got her and tossed her back up. what's the obligation? >> yeah, if you live anywhere near a subway system, you know you aren't going to do that because there's the third rail you have to worry about. those people probably didn't give it a second thought. screaming saying what can we do? that train operator said i saw people waving like crazy. they were the ones who alerted me in addition to another

engineer who let her know that the platform was crowded. so she was on the watch when she saw this. and she said if it weren't for those people, waving their arms, and saying watch out, i wouldn't have stopped in time. and i wouldn't have known. bill: do you have an obligation to put yourself at risk if somebody is stoned and drunk doing something crazy? >> you don't have an obligation to put yourself at risk but this woman, 26 years old and had four 22-ounce beers at a bar in boston as the celtics were winning that night. and the -- interestingly, i interviewed the train operator who put the brakes on. she said she didn't know if she had hit her or not. she got out of the train to find out. bill: it was that close. >> the woman got up smiling. and she -- the train operator, i counted her lems to make -- her limbs to make sure she had her arms and legs and what would you say to her? be grateful and stay away from the yellow line. bill: stay away from the booze. pinheads and patriots on deck. starring john scott, fox news anchor and jane fonda.

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gretchen: good morning, everyone. thursday, november 12, 2009. police sergeant kim "mighty mouse" munley speaks out for the first time. >> when i got shot, it felt like, honestly, a muscle being torn out of my leg at the time. goich and you will hear from her partner, seated next to her there, who grabbed major hasan's gun and then cuffed him. he'll be on our show. steve: back to the drawing board. president obama rejected all options for a new strategy in afghanistan. what's up with that? details straight ahead. brian: taking a swipe at kanye west, you know, the rapper who upstaged taylor swift. steve talks about it every day. we'll tell you what happened last night on the country music awards. and find out how the country world responded to his world. meanwhile, our slogan from roger in north carolina. here in the south there is no doubt, "fox & friends" is what it's all about.