tv Greta Van Susteren FOX News January 2, 2010 1:00am-2:00am EST
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tonight you are going rogue. you are about to see former governor palin like never before. weeks before it was even released her memoir going rogue became a number one best seller. since then huge crowds have turned out to meet governor palin across the country. minutes from now you go behind the scenes and take a ride on the governor's book tour bus. governor palin does not hold back. setting her sights on president obama, who she says has a prenine 11 -- pre9/11 mentality. and what she really thinks about secretary of state clinton. and talking about her son trigg and cruel rumors spread about him. and tonight governor sarah palin answers your questions. governor nice to see you.
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>> thank you you too. >> governor, do they read in alaska? >> yeah, we read in alaska, we stay in touch with the real world. >> i'm just teasing. >> that's funny. you have an army t-shirt on to set the stage where are we today? >> heading to ft. bragg can't wait to meet the troops. the book is dedicated to patriots who serve our country and have served in the past. a grit event. >> i heard on the radio that the -- since you are doing the army visit today, employment for people returning home from the war is at 15%. >> an -- that's atrocious, huge numbers. not just military returning home, they deserve the employment opportunity more so than anybody else. making sacrifices, putting careers and education opportunities on hold so they can serve something greater than self.
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to be essentially punished by this lacking economy right now by not seeing job opportunities upon their return is unacceptable. job opportunities are gonna be created when our federal government will quit taxing those who are creating the jobs. not quit taxes but reduce taxes and start incentivizeing small businesses so this economy can become more robust jobs created not government creating, private sector and our troops are going to be able to come home and cap advertisize on some of the great things that -- capitalize on some of the grit things that should be there waiting for them. >> not just the military, unemployment in detroit for instance, 15%, nationwide 10.2, california, nevada, rhode island, all getting hitterably. in light of the fact that we have the stimulus bill passed in february and signed. what would you do now if you were in charge? >> i would not start talking
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about a second stimulus package. this is bogus idea out there that growing more debt, another trillion dollar stimulus package we hear rumored about in washington, d.c., when the first stimulus package almost a trillion dollars of monies that the public coffers did not have to spend this again in the second stimulus is nonsense to most americans. the first stimulus package hasn't even been spent entirely. it certainly hasn't been measured for any success. for congress and the white house to start talking a second stimulus package makes no sense. what we need to do is reduce capital gains taxes, reduce taxes on corporations and small businesses and our economic so private sector, families, businesses can keep more of what we earn. can prioritize, reinvest, create jobs that's how the economy is going to roar back
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to life. president reagan did that in the itties -- in the 80s. it worked. let's learn from what he did in the 80s. not go down this nonsense cal road growing more debt, building more government and expect that somehow everything is going to work out okay. >> what the problems that we have? there are different needs in different communities. detroit has a different need than maybe montana? we have such a huge country with different industry how do you account for the fact that the poor african-american in detroit might be different than someone who loses a business in northern california? >> fundamentally, everything is the same. america's economy was built on free market enterprise. it was built on these principles that allowed the private sector to grow and thrive and prosper and for our families to keep more of what we earn. where we are now in america in
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the last 11 months is seeing this reversal of those principles that were applied to build up our economy. all of a sudden we are thinking it is okay to grow debt in our country. it is okay to borrow from countries we will soon be so beholding to. it is okay to print money out of thin air and think everything is going to magically work out. fundamentally, everyone is equal in america, everyone has equal opportunity to earn, produce and build. the fundamentals of a strong economy have got to be applied again as they were like i said in the 80s when reagan faced a worse recession than today let's learn from that piece of american history and apply the same solutions. >> what about health care reform? i assume you want some health care reform, maybe i'm wrong. do we need health care reform? >> of course we do. rising costs are crushing some of our small businesses. small businesses that want to provide health care coverage
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for employees and can't because it costs too much. there needs to be reform there. common sense solutions to this reform that we need to see. we can allow the interstate competition between insurerers to let people go across the state -- insurers to let people go across the state line and buy insurance instead of the prohibitions we see today. cut down on the waste and fraud that president obama insists will pay for his multi-trillion dollar health care reform package that he wants the public to adopt. we can look at tort reform measures that will help reduce the cost. we don't center to just assume that the only solution to the health care challenges that america faces for government to come in and take it over. 1/6 of our economy, heaven forbid the american people give up on family and private sector industry and say okay government you take it over we can't figure out any innovative solutions, no intelligent solutions coming
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from us, government you do it for us. >> it seems the rich don't need to worry. of course there's the question of whether you want to tack the rich some do, some don't. then the middle class might be out of a job. you've got the very poor. what do we do about the very poor in terms of employment or in terms of health care all the proposals put out there by the republican side of the aisle, we still have a segment of our society down and out. we have hungry people in this country. >> the very, very poor are taken care of. nobody is going to be turned away from a hospital emergency room. today they are not turned away if they can't pay for that coverage that's fine, that's good that is a compassionate heart of the american people. and of our government. they are not going to be turned away even the very poor need to be able to capitalize on those free market principles that have to be applied to get our economy roaring back to life and not look at -- government shouldn't be looking at
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increasing taxes on bureaucrats call the very rich. the very rich for the most part are business owners, small business owners who are creating the jobs. if taxes rise, so rapidly on a small business that creating jobs, they are gonna move their wealth elsewhere. that's why we are exporting job opportunities into foreign countries where cheaper to do business because the american government is increasing taxes. disincentivizing businesses not allowing them to expand and hire more people. so the very poor will be made much more healthier, more prosper us -- prosperous if our economy can get back on track. >> what does governor palin think is the best of president obama and what does she think is the worst thing? you are taking a ride on governor palin's book tour bus. everyone saw the newsweek
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. nothing was off limits and she did not pull punches talking about president obama. >> across the board on every topic, foreign policy, economy what is the best thing you have seen president obama do and what is the worst thing? >> i appreciated so much the other night in china and he suggested that condemnation of the human right abuses in that country, of course i would like him to be bolder, but probably some of his people didn't want him to go that far in that condemnation. i appreciated he was bold enough to tell china their human right abuses are not acceptable in our eyes. the worse thing i think there's been a lack of acknowledgement by our president in understanding
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what it is that the american military provides in terms of obviously, the safety, the security of our country. the comment made the other night about the troops make for a good photo-op, i'm giving you guys a raise. i want him to acknowledge how the sacrifices that these individual men and women are -- our sons, daughters, moms, dads, brothers and sisters are providing this country to keep us safe. the service that they are providing to something greater than self. they are making sacrifices. they are putting so much on hold right now. so that the homeland can be safe. they can fight for democratic ideals around our world. i want to see more acknowledgement and more respect given not just with that -- >> just words? >> no, i want to see them equipped. given everything they need,
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including strategy, surge strategy in afghanistan for one so they know they are there for victory not just biding their time as lives are being lost. i want our president and this administration to listen to the advisers whom they hired, mccountries fall for one in march telling -- mcchrystal for one in march, telling the president here's what we need and saying mr. president here's what we need in afghanistan to win that make sure terror cells don't grow. so terrorists don't come back to the homeland in america on our soil and kill innocent americans. i want him to listen to his advisers. that's what he asked for. >> one of the countries sinks he's been listening too long. he these mcchrystal gave him that information august. on the other hand we don't a rush to judgment in terms of when he should make a decision. do you expect that decision to have been made by now? or appreciate the consultation? >> how long does consultation
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and talk among bureaucrats go on? the american people want action, one way or another. our troops deserve that too. they need to noah is in their future, personally -- they need to know, what is in their future, personally, practical reasons our military needs to know where are we going in afghanistan? are we gonna listen to mcchrystal and provide that counter insurgency strategy that includes more reinforcements being sent and get the job done or are we going to keep not knowing how long is this gonna go on? why are we spending -- why are we sending troops unless our goal is to win to kill the terrorists and stop this get of the cells and make sure we are doing all we can to secure the homeland and fight for the ideals in a country that believe it or not, i think they want us there, because
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they want us to assist. >> do you think we can win afghanistan? soviet union had their problems in the early 90s they got out. we've been there eight years now. it seems to be getting worse. we have more problem there is. of course bleeding into pakistan. can we really win there? are we being truthful to ourselves? >> we have to. that's what the president's advisers are saying. we have to win there. here's how we can win. that's why it is so important for the president to listen to mcchrystal to listen to those who are there on the frontlines. they are on the ground telling him what it is we need with this new strategy. >> what does governor palin really think about secretary of state clinton? her answer might catch you off guard. governor palin says president obama has a pre9/11 mentality. what does that mean? find out next. you are going on governor palin's book tour bus as it roars down the highway. roars down the highway. that and more, m m m m ahhh. tt the latte budget under control. mm-hmm.
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everyone wants to know will governor palin run for president in 2012? so far she won't say if she wants to be commander in chief it is important to know how she views the world what about pack stone. a country -- pakistan. a country that has nuclear weapons we've just given them 7.5 billion dollars we were there with secretary of state clinton pakistanis are furious at the americans they were unhappy that the .5 billion came with strings attach -- that the 7.5 billion came with strings attached they that was offensive and insulting. you india, why aren't we
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getting money? >> we have to make sure we are working closely with india, largest democracy of the world. we have to make sure that india and pakistan know the last thing the world needs is conflict between these two countries. they both need to understand that each other are not the problem. the taliban is the problem. there needs to be a concerted effort on both parts to make sure that the taliban is controlled. >> how? >> pakistan cracking down internally on that get of terror cells there. india needs to support them doing that india, i would hope and we have a great relationship with the prime minister there, in fact he's coming over to have dinner with obama in a couple of days. i would hope that the relationship that america can be in the middle of and help form a stronger alliance between the two countries, will be certainly implemented soon. the last thing that we can afford is for this growing
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super power india to have this kind of conflict with pakistan and distress between them. leaders need to come together. that's what president obama -- that's where his gift, his talent that he wants us to believe that he has in being a forger of good relationships maybe this is where it can be made manifest. it has to be. >> how do you do that? people have tried, secretary of state clinton has tried. how do you get these countries to talk to each other and not to be at each other's throats? >> well, that's the nature of super powers too. is that saber rattling and that seeking of even more power. the world is so volatile now especially when we talk about the nuclear arms, the world is so volatile we cannot afford to hesitate to an an at least
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an total bring them together. we have a common end economy the -- enemy the terrorists. why can't we forge a military alliance to get rid of those terrorists in pakistan that are threatening and have attacked mum bi-- mumbai and some of the areas in india. why can't we get these folks together and forge that relationship that is so necessary? it is such a volatile world where parts of our world could be literally blown up with these nuclear arms. we cannot afford to hesitate at all in at least attempting to bring these leaders together. >> i hope you didn't think i was suggesting we give up in afghanistan or other places, i certainly does have the answers. >> not one person does. a president does not have the answer. needs to be humble enough to admit he doesn't have all the answers that's why he builds a
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team to advise. that's why he chose mcchrystal to tell him what we need. that's enough i believe of the discussion and of the strategy sessions on where we should go. you know, i won't accuse him of playing politics with this. if there's any hint of politics being played in this he needs to let that get out the door, naught an -- that aside. listen to his advisers the team that he has created and and get this over with. >> how about secretary of state clinton she has been globe-trotting, i don't mean that in a der recognizer to -- in a der rollinger to way. how is she doing? >> i think she's doing a great job. her boss is president obama. she not going to get ahead of him. all the more reason that the man whom america, whom we elected will listen to those who are his team, including
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hillary clinton and do what is right for our country. >> president ahmadinejad of iran is in brazil. that of course has caused some consternation on the part of the united states. what do you think about the president of brazil entertaining ahmadinejad? >> i wish the president of brazil would put his foot down and tell ahmadinejad what we want to tell him. that it is unacceptable this madman regime to threaten israel, to wipe it off the face of the earth and to spew his hatred of america. i would hope that the president of brazil would forge even better relationships with france, with britain with america and start looking at joining us in the sanctions that we should be applying to iran. instead of just talking about the sanctions all these great ideas we have to not allow them to capitalize on favorable er to deals or continued imports of petroleum, refined products, but
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sanctioning this country until they start changing their behavior. i would like brazil to join in that >> how do you describe the president obama foreign policy direction, philosophy with president bush, what is the difference? >> i think it has been summed up for me, most clearly, when i hear people talk about, do we have a pre9/11 mentality in the federal government or is it a post 9/11? i think unfortunately, we are going backwards to a pre-9/11 mentality. we are not understanding that the enemies in this world, the terrorists, are wired, they are operating in a way to seek this destruction of america and her allies. we saw that on 9/11. that man tess -- manifestation of their hatred of innocent americans. we learned so much. i think president -- i thank president bush for
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understanding how important it was to build up our military and to build alliances to make sure that never happened again. it seems like it is politically incorrect to thank president bush for his security efforts in keeping our country safe and not seeing any attacks since 9/11. i think that we need to emulate much of what he did militarily. i would like to see president obama start looking in that direction. realizing that so much changed after 9/11. there was that clear illustration of evil empires, hating america, wanting to destroy our country and the shift in thinking in the federal government at that time, i thought was valuable, healthier for america than where we are today. where it seems we are kind of backing up a little bit. kind of going along with almost this assumption that it will never happen again. maybe we can just talk the terrorists out of ever wanting
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to attack america or our allies. >> when i look at the world, thinking what would i do? every time you move one chess piece you create another problem. pakistan, inindia the best example. the minute you help pakistan, india is mad. every time we do something in pakistan we have to worry about afghanistan. every piece you move on the board makes the most ensure able problem. >> our role is to keep that good relationship with india. tell them we are there to support them too. >> they want 7.5 billion. we don't have any money. >> they sure have a heck of a lot of our jobs. we've exported so many of our jobs to india, so fortunate because of decisions that our federal government has made in disincentivizing our industry to keep jobs here we are going to do that if we reduce the taxes on-the-job creators and
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allow small businesses to reinvest and hire more people here. >> it all sort of loops back. >> it all loops back. it loops back to the way our country was formed. we were gonna be different than any other country. we were gonna strive to be the super power militarily and economically. i want our country to get back to that i think most americans agree with me. we have the willingness. we have the ableness to get back to where we were and to forge ahead in that direction. that's what i want that see. >> up next, get on the bus. we are taking you behind the scenes for a ride on governor palin's book tour bus. >> why did governor a rib resign her job of governor of alaska? is she a quitter? she answers that question. what didn't she put in the book that she wanted t t t tok
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. hear on the record we take you behind the scenes. tonight something special, you are taking a ride on governor palin's book tour bus. we hopped on the bus with governor palin after a book signing at ft. bragg. >> i felt like a campaign rally. didn't feel like a book signing. >> felt like a great opportunity to honor our troops and for them to be able to tell me a little bit in just a couple seconds what they are expecting with their government. i heard a lot from 'em it was a great opportunity. >> some of them give you advice? >> a lot do and it is all good. it is keep up the faith. fight hard. not necessarily, you know suggesting that i need to do something with the title or to run for office. just, you know seeking hope and wanting to know that people are looking out for 'em. >> you say office, why did you quit? >> oh, just was the best thing for the state of alaska to
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progress conservative agenda, without the distraction that this new normal in alaskan politics had become. every time i turned around, i was hit with some kind of lawsuit or frivolous things violation charge prohibiting my administration from doing the work for the people. i was costing the state millions of dollars, thousands of staff hours to fight these frivolous adversarial opposition researcher efforts that were thrown at my administration while i was there. i wasn't gonna run again for governor. instead of just hunkering down, quitting, as a governor by sitting behind my desk and not speaking out for fear of having another ethics violation charge. i said no, we are going to fight harder, by handing the reins over to the lt. governor. he'll progress the agenda, i
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will get out there and fight harder. >> when is that term up?ú:[ up in one year? >> we have like 36 governors across the nation who are up for reelection the seats are open in 2010, alaska's governor is one of them. >> any heartbreak in quitting? >> i loved my job, absolutely. a lot of careful consideration before i made the decision that in the best interests of alaska i needed to step aside. there was heartbreak because alaska is my home. i'm going to be buried there. i will be raising my kids there. i love serving the people there. the people who really care about alaska, who care about me and my family knew this was the best decision. it came down to the people who get it, who understand an opportunity for me to fight for alaskan issues, they don't -- i don't have to explain any
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more to them. your friends don't need the explanation, your enemies are not going to believe you any way. >> i think the media has been unfair to you and secretary of state clinton. you guys ought to get challenged on the policies. the thing is you a lot of fans cheering for you. a lot of people are looking forward to see what your political future is. when it gets hot, heated, do you quit or are you tough? >> like my dad said i wasn't retreating, i was reloading. if i was still the governor today i would be shackled by adversaries, those hell bent on seeing personal destruction and bankruptcy of me and my family that's why they kept filing these lawsuits. and we won one after another after another. i thought of you the other day we got word we won the issue of me wearing the coat in an
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interview, i wore a snow machine coat. >> it was cold i would have worn whatever they gave me. i would have worn an abc jacket on cbs it was so cold. >> somebody filed something against me that i was wearing, saying i was advertising something in public. that cost tens of thousands to fight. i thought of you, there it is in front of god, greta and fox. of course i wore the coat, so what? the politics of personal destruct, things like that, it's why good people stay out of politics. it is why good people say i'm not gonna put my family through that i'm not going to offer myself up to be sacrificed like that because you become ineffective if you start hunkering down and kowtowing to what they are going to do to you next. we are going to get out there and fight harder. here's how we are going to do it. >> you have never said what your plans are, i'm not going
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to ask. everyone keeps asking the same question. a lot of people out there are pushing for you. how do you know -- if they were to persuade you to run or if you made the decision based on your family, when they start doing that personal destruct thing that's what is gonna happen on a national . >> it is not the same scale in alaska, our administration is set up a little different than anywhere else in the country or in the federal government. the governor is not protected by the department of law when these frivolous charges are filed. i have to pay personally for that defense, still paying personally for the defense of all the frivolity. those charges filed by fake people, a fake british soap opera actress filed something against me and i'm still paying the bill to defend myself against stupid things like that that's not going to happen elsewhere. again, more and more people
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are realizing that things like that, that keep good people away from politics they don't want -- people are expecting that kind of change. ethics reform so those times of acts can't prohibit someone from wanting to serve for the right reasons and i i don't know what level or what position but i'm going to be out there fighting hard, working for everyday, common sense americans who are sick of the things that are going on in this country that really are turning government away from them. it's becoming more and more greta, where the american people are feeling like they have to work for government, instead of their government working for them. i want to turn that around in whatever position i can. >> when i've gone to these rallies on the campaign trail, the people are crazy about you. the enthusiasm for you. of course president obama got enormous enthusiasm in his crowds too. people say, i don't know what they are calling them, they love you.
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>> it is not for me though. it is for a common sense voice that is speaking what they are wanting to hear. they are saying, we need our economy back on the right track. we to quit digging this hole of debt. quit growing government i'm agreeing. i'm saying exactly here's what i did in alaska. and to veto overloaded budgets. and to the things that we were able to accomplish there. start building energy independent projects. people are looking at me as a representation of what they want to see and what they believe in. not me personally just that common sense voice of the everyday american. >> a blogger from california asked me to ask. what didn't you put in a book? is there something that you would have liked to have included? >> great question. >> i wish it were mine. it wasn't mine. you didn't say mine were any
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glad, you said the bloggers, thanks a lot. >> i think we covered a lot of important facts, events, situations. i wish i could have talked more about the people in my life who inspire me and in fact, i personally would have had a better time writing the book had it been about anybody but me and i'm glad that writing exercise is over. i hope i never have to write about myself again. would you want to sit down and write about your self day after day? >> not particularly. >> no. i wanted to have my voice heard on so many of the questions asked of me the last year. people saying why you do that? i heard through the press that you did this? i'm like no i'll tell you the truth. here's how things unfolded unfiltered i to put words on paper and let people know the true story. >> up next governor palin gets personal. she gives you the inside story
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>> from america's news headquarters, secretary of state hillary clinton offering con dole co-condolences to families of people killed in the bombing in pakistan. the target may have been a meeting of antitaliban leaders. >> consecutive -- conservative radio talk show host rush limbaugh is out of the hospital and medical tests show nothing is wrong with his heart. he was rushed to the hospital on wednesday after suffering severe chest pains. there was no sign of heart attack or heart disease. now back to "on the record." ex. not traditional. ex.
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facebook you are now speaking to people on facebook are you actually doing this? do you have a staff? >> i have a small staff. no, i'm actually doing it. >> you have a very small staff. >> this morning i post -- last night couldn't sleep, couldn't sleep, kind of burning in me again with this reminder, all you -- i use facebook to remind americans on i'm this book tour. they shout loudly they say we to get this country back on the right track. the things going on now we don't agree with. why haven't congress listening with health care reform? couldn't sleep last night wants to -- wanting to put my thoughts, my heart on paper. posted this morning and facebook. those are my messages. wanted to let the american people know what was going through my mind last night. i want to do something about it. and asking americans too, keep
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the faith. >> you haven't said you are going to run. in the back of your mine you must think how can i reach the people who don't agree with me? easy to reach the people who agree with you. how do you reach the people way farther left from you? >> those people are going to start seeing the direct of our country now has to change. whether they agree with me personally on values or some of the issues that i really grabbed hold of and tried to progress is. -- progress with. whether they agree with that or not, i think they are going to agree we have to build a stronger nation, economically and in terms of national security. the things that i'm standing for, such common sense measures that have to be undertaken in order to get there for america, with national security, with the economy. i'm never gonna please everyone. there's no need to even try to please everyone. some people will -- if it
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comes from me, they will automatically not like watt idea is or what the position is. >> how do you win over the people who may have that knee-jerk reaction if you want to reach them to let them consider what you have to say? >> for instance the book is a good tool. hey, read the book. if you still don't like the positions that i take or if you don't like who i am after reading the book, unfiltered through the media, so be it. i'm never gonna win you over. at least give me a shot in trying to figure out who i am. what my record is, my accomplishments are and what i represent. if i can't please 'em, i can't please 'em. i'm not gonna try. i'm not gonna change who i am or compromise my positions, my values to placate or try to get some demographic or some group of people onboard with me if they just don't get it. >> is it fun to be politician
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or is it rough? how could you describe it? i don't know if you are a politician now. now an author, i guess. that's what i call you today, i guess. i think of your career as a politician. is it fun? >> public service is fun. >> how about the rest? there's a lot to it. not just public service. >> the public service, administrative tasks, i love it. that's why i loved my job as governor. as a city manager. strong mayor. i loved those positions of effecting change of helping people. some of the crap that guess on, on the periphery has a lot to do with the media making things up, that stuff is not that much fun. we plow through that stuff, i do, so i can concentrate on what the administrative tasks should be. how that change should be affected. how to hear from the people and message back to the people. so we are all on the same page
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as we are trying to progress on an agenda. some of the stuff on the periphery that is obviously not a lot of fun to go through, plow through it, put up with it. >> i was reading your book, i thought the part that struck me, everyone takes a piece that strikes 'em. three week period between the time you learned about your son trigg and the time you got to tell todd. he was on the north slope you wanted to tell him in person, about your son. i can't imagine a tougher time in a person's life. >> yeah, it was kind of a lonely time. having the news that wasn't able to share yet with todd. also, a good time of introspection to figure out, wow how am i going to handle this? knowing todd would probably handle it better than i would initially. and knowing i was going to drew strength from him. i was refreshing of course to
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get to tell him and moved forward on how to handle the situation as expected he handled it well he saw the good and the challenges in the news at the same time. he has just been awesome through this of course tri g now that he's here, can't imagine the world without him he's amazing to us and perfect to us. we love him more than anything. >> news week cover that caused a firestorm, governor wearing running shorts. it is sexist? that and more. here's a tease: what two celebrities did governor palin wait in line to meet, when they came to alaska? she tells you, coming up.#ñ#ñ#ññ
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it is impossible to deny the country is fascinated by governor palin. like it or not her personal life has been under a microscope. governor palin's memoir going rogue gets personal. so did our interview when she went on the error. i wanted to read it, everyone reads a book with his or her own eyes. and the horrible wicked rumor about whose child trigg was. you wereéhwsm so silent, i wondd if that was like people didn't realize what was going on in your life and the rumors get rolling. i wondered if that contributed to it? >> i don't know that stupid tin foil hat conspiracy some people won't let go of. they still bug my doctor, they still bug my attorney and they bug us about it about who is trigg's real mom. i don't know it is --
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>> it is up there in terms of cruel it is up there. >> it makes no sense either. no sense at all. but, people just -- i think there's some shallowness and lonliness in people who want to perpetuate such a thing. that stuff isn't that much fun to go through. again, i've said this before, those kind of personal shots, those political shots too that we take, at the end of the day they don't mean a lot. not when you consider that real devastation in a person's life is losing a child or having an ill parent or losing a job and not knowing how you are going to take care of your family. those are the things that really matter. all of this political, personal tabloidization of me, my family or my record is ridiculous, such a waste of time so we don't waste our time on it. we plow through as i say and move forward. >> they are not doing this
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about other candidates right now. you're the one who is the target to the large extent. like i said a moment ago, secretary of state clinton has gotten a hit is it a gender thing? >> i think a lot of it is a gender thing. women's rights groups who don't come out and say, i may not agree with her policies. the things like newsweek did putting a picture of me in shorts on the cover is sexist, ridiculous. some say you sound like you are whining or can't handle it. bull, i can handle it and i'm speaking up for other women who may go through this in the workplace. i'm saying enough is enough of that kind of stuff. i expect to be treated equally not with kid gloves. i expect to -- if i'm going to be called out on something, i expect in a campaign for instance my opponent better be called out on the same thing. >> a lot of women might say if
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you don't fight you're gonna get back at you again. the other thing is often times when women complain they are whining. >> i don't buy into that >> i don't either. >> because i tried both ways. i went through months of not fighting back. zipping my lip, a for fear of being charged with something as the governor for speaking out on wasn't state business i've been through that too. it is a tough call what do you fight back on? some of the shots that are taken, you have to weigh the pros and cons. what i decided was, i won't necessarily fight back on the petty stuff that would waste my time. since there's 24 hours in a day which would never get anything else done. when they attack my kids, when they touch my kids, like any other mom in our country, i will fight back. and i will set the record straight. that's where i draw the line.
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>> >> there is a reporter asking me why are you standing in line? i said because up here in, alaska one, we a lot of us, you know, it's not like, you know, salmon season, there is salmon, year round having someone like this, we're honored and flattered and she's selling good perfume. twice, i stood in line. >> thanks for watching a special edition of "on the record" don't force yet go right now to blog. we're open 24-7
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