>> good morning everyone. it's sunday, march 21st, 2010. the most crucial vote on health care happens in just hours. republicans are not holding back their feelings on the bill, but do democrats even have the votes? we have the latest counts straight ahead for you. >> and did a promise of amnesty for illegal immigrants change liberal democrat votes on the health care bill? will that make a difference between pass it go and failing is this. >> and if you had kansas city going far in your final bracket, mr. president, you're not a happy camper this morning. >> .4, 2 and the first day of spring, number one has fallen. >> and another big favorite

also goes home early. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> ♪ >> it's "fox & friends"! >> oh, good sunday morning everyone, welcome here to "fox & friends." i'm clayton morris, alisyn camerota, dave briggs and i think that dave was overly caffeinat caffeinated. >> i was overly caffeinated. i was excited. >> you have to be. >> when you say the date march 21st, 2010, a date that might be in our kids' history books, it might be taught for years and decades and decades to come, this is when our health care system in it country may change forever. >> i'm sorry. >> and-- and the numbers are fluctuating every single minute. what was happening last night is not the same as happening this morning. but the latest thing on this historic day is they think that democrats do have 216 votes, which of course is the magic newspaper though some people have moved from the yes

column to the no column this morning and we'll tell you about at that momentarily. >> and president obama of course coming out and also rallying the base, but rallying a lot of moderates and saying this thing isn't perfect, but it's an important day also, back and forth. take a listen to what the president had to say. >> is this the single most important step that we have taken on health care since medicare? absolutely. is this the most important piece of domestic legislation in terms of giving a break to hard working middle class families out there since medicare? >> absolutely. >> is this a vast improvement over the status quo? >> absolutely. . the president laying out historical context, medicare of course and social security and just for context, you brought it up earlier, but i think it's interesting, zero republicans will vote for this unanimous, zero republicans,

if you go back to medicare, 81 i'm sorry, 70 republicans voted for medicare in 1965. 81 republicans voted for social security, zero. >> and of course, social security-- that's what's interesting about this they're all landmark social legislation, this is extremely divisive. listen to newt gingrich. the most radical experiment in modern times. it's divisive and today unfolds on capitol hill. >> there are still many key issues of contention as you probably know that even this morning they are still debating. number one, federal funding of abortions. there is no federal funding of abortions, let's be clear, however, as you know, there are many democrats who worry that somehow there will be some indirect funding through an insurance exchange or somehow and they want strong language. that's not in there yet. >> right. also a state differential. that means differences in states and geographical differences on medicare and special deals for some of

these, the corn husker kick back has been moved out of this, but there are other states who are getting deals for sort of holding out and being late to the game. >> yeah, it appears that the president is making up for some of the agree graphic disparities, because they got them on board and states like oregon and washington and iowa and others say that hey, we have low costs and quality health care. we need the level playing field in this case and they're bringing them on board. >> on the flip side of course, there are republicans that are furious, none in the house support the bill, none in the senate and let's hear from indiana representative mike pence and the minority leader, jn bainer. >> it's important that they understand that it's not the president's house, that it's not the speaker's house, that it's the people's house and this weekend, house republicans will stand with the american people. this fight is not over. this fight is continuing. they do not have the votes

yet. we've got to keep working to make sure that they never ever ever ever get the votes to pass this bill. >> and of course, this was not without protest yesterday. tea party members surrounding the capitol at one point and interesting to watch all of the reaction online as this was unfolding. they were attempting to surround the capital and hold hand-to-hand and trying to wrap themselves. there you can see it. trying to grap each other's hands and surround the capital and let them know. >> they did delay the president's motorcade and they were somewhat effectiven. >> and here they're peaceful and holding signs and they're being democratic in sewing their opposition to this, but there were a few bad apples in the bunch that said some highly offensive, racist things and even, believe it or not, spit on one lawmaker, congressman emanuel cleaver was spat upon. >> yeah, we will get to that in a moment. there was also a celebrity at

the tea party rally, jon voight was there. here is what he had to say speaking out against the health care bill. >> we are here today to try to reach not only the american people, but our congressmen and senators who are being bullied and bribed into passing this very dangerous and destructive health care bill. >> okay. so, as we were saying, so, that was very peaceful, most of the thousands of people. >> that's the way it should have stayed. >> absolutely. and then it turned and got uglier. there were racist slurs hurled at some of the african-american lawmakers. >> awful stuff. >> awful stuff. it's stuff that in fact, john lewis, long time civil rights activist, lawmaker said he hadn't heard for 40 years, said it reminded him of the

'60s. and elijah cummings, took the higher road and said look, there are differences, but said this, my vote will not be dominated by anger or fear, i will march into the house tomorrow to cost my vote. despite being spat upon and hurled with racist remarks. >> no charges were filed against the man who spit on a congressman, but let's hope that the tea party members stand up and say, we don't need that. we don't want that. they don't stand for us. i hope they take a stand out against this because it's not representing the whole of that movement we hope. >> right, what stood out so much about the tea party movement in the past is their thoughtful approach to speaking out and protesting and so the bad apples are hopefully not representative of the people fired up about this yesterday. >> in the meantime we have distachd rick reichmuth to the scene where there's extreme weather and the red river is set to crest today. he's in minnesota on the banks

of the river, how is it looking there, rick. >> people are maybe a little optimistic at this point. the forecast for the river cresting has come down to 37 feet and coming up maybe a couple of inches from where it is now and about three feet lower than the all-time record that we did see last year. nonetheless, it's going to be staying at major flood stage at least over a week and causes major concerns. take a look a little at the picture here, you can see the house back here, that's completely underwater and in that house lives an 89-year-old woman who has lived her entire life and her family is determined to let her live out her life in that house. unfortunately, last year and this year, both dealing with these floods. i just want to show you a picture from yesterday when i was flying in to get a sense of this. now, moorhead, minnesota is on one side of the river, fargo on the other and this is flying in yesterday. this is a picture of the houses underwater, but these are areas more protected where the water spills out over the

banks and it's completely going out into farm land and this is a baseball out here, like pouring a glass of water on to a big pool table and the water doesn't go anywhere, so all of this land is completely flooded and completely saturated, and there is he going to be more problems if we get anymore significant rain in this area. over the next couple of weeks, you've seen a lot of snow melt. there was about 18 inches of snow here just a week ago, very warm temperatures, rapidly melted that snow, but there's a little bit of snow to be had around that will also melt and hopefully we won't get additional rain on top of that. temps going up to about 50 degrees so people are certainly a little bit optimistic, but we now have to hope that the levees, under extreme pressure and areas sand bagged that those hold with the pressure that's going to remain on this area for about the next week or so. i do want to quickly talk about a couple of other weather stories going on across the country. there there's two things happening. yesterday was the first day of spring and if you take a look at our weather maps, it certainly was spring in across much of the eastern part of

the country. take a look at these record high temperatures yesterday, for the day. 74 in new york city and the other side is snow. we had record breaking snow across kansas and oklahoma and still dealing with snow today across some areas and a little bit of rain across parts of the southeast and then of course we'll continue to watch the river here across the areas of the north as well. guys, send it back to you in the studio, much more coming here from moorhead, minnesota. >> thanks so much. now to the rest of your headlines, there are now reports that officials in iran were training taliban members, paying them to sustain three-month courses so this could apparently learn to kill n.a.t.o. forces. according to two commanders, iranian officials taught them how to carry out ambushes, teaching them how to escape before the n.a.t.o. forces could respond. two small planes collide in mid air killing three people. this happened near will ston, florida. one was an experimental plane

and the other a piper 32. there was no damage to any on the ground and no word what caused that crash. >> a warning this morning for women on the university of illinois's champaign campus. police are urging caution after four incidents of sexual assault and home invasions targeting females. university police are asking residents not to walk alone at night and if they have to walk, walk in well-lit areas and also looking into whether all the crimes are connected. dave, tell us about sports. >> it's the biggest upset to hit the ncaa tournament in years. overall number one seed kansas sent home by northern iowa. who is cinderella? he's ali manesh. a huge three-pointer, gutsy shot with loads of time on the shot clock. what a brave play by this young man. 69-67, sorry, i can't hide my joy for this one. what a win by northern iowa. this, as ten seed saint marys takes down number two seed

villa nova, 75-68 and the guy you should know about this guy is omar sanhan. 32 points. president obama's brackets not so good. he had villa nova in the final four and kansas, not helping him in the doocy household. peter went to nova. steve went to kansas, our condolences, doocies. >> and university of pittsburgh rolls on. and we were texting about this game and checking the tweets and you hear brackets crashing all over. >> not mine, buddy shall, mine is in good shape. >> good to know. >> and meanwhile, let's talk about health care and what effect it will have. the state treasure in massachusetts says that mass care, the health care there, is bankrupting the state, what he says will happen across the country if democrats vote today to make health care law. >> then, parents going back to school to learn how to deal with their teenagers. the syllabus behind a class every parent should take.

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>> it's our top story of the morning. a historic vote on health care just hours away. the president has been touting universal health care models for month, but one place that already has it, massachusetts, well, some there say that it hasn't worked as planned. tim cahill is massachusetts state treasurier and joins me now. >> good morning, mr. cahill. >> good morning, alisyn. you have an apocalyptic, you said that if health care passes today it will bankrupt the country in the space of four years, where are you getting that number and what are you basing it on? >> we're basing it on the fact that it has increased costs here in massachusetts by an enormous amount. if it wasn't for federal reimbursements to the

massachusetts plan i think we'd be bankrupt ourselves right now, we wouldn't be able to afford it. so the question i have is who is going to bail out the united states and what is it going to mean to other states? we started out with the highest rate of insured people in the country. we had 93% and we've added about 4% to that total. so when you look at states like texas and california that have almost a quarter of their population uninsured, it does bring up the question how we're going to pay for this all because the costs are tremendously higher than were projected for massachusetts back in 2006. >> and specifically, mr. cahill, what's happened in massachusetts? i know that premiums have gone up for individuals, but you say that also it's eating into the state budget? >> yes, yeah, it's costing us 4.2 billion dollars more today out of our state budget than it was costing us when we started this plan and that's just to cover about 400,000 people. so, it is not a huge amount of people that we're talking about, but a huge amount of

and it's causing some hospitals to go bankrupt and we've got seven community hospitals suing the state for underreimbursement. so it is causing that problem that people are concerned about that small community hospitals right not survive this, this program going forward. >> now, that's curious, because we've had one of our own fox news doctors on earlier, who said that as a result of universal health care, finally, hospitals will be paid. they've been treating the uninsured patients for decades, showing up at the emergency room and now they'll have insurance and hospitals will get reimbursed. >> it's not working out that way. that's why i'm nervous if our plan is the model for the national plan. there are are unintended consequences. the medicaid and medicare patients, poor people who have subsidized health care, not getting full reimbursement by the federal and state government, most of the mon is going towards the large, more

expensive teaching hospitals so that's why health care costs have not come down. so, it's not only hurting the state, but it's hurting small businesses and the average citizen because their costs are going up, so, i don't know how it's going to work. >> i don't knand yet, when it w introduce add year ago, most americans did then say they wanted a change because they were weren't comfortable with how many millions of americans are uninsured and how people were dropped for pre-existing conditions and other unethical practices by insurance companies, along with skyrocketing costs. so, what's the answer? >> well, i don't think this, this plan, this reform really reforms insurance companies practices and i think that that is at the root of the problem right now. there's no competition. all we're doing here in massachusetts, we're forcing everyone to get coverage, but letting those people get covered by the same small group of insurance companies. >> okay. >> so, we agree, and i agree that we should try to get coverage, but this plan is not

going to work to bring down the cost of health insurance and i think it will lead to some really tough decisions financially. >> tim cahill, thanks for joining us with the information this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> has president obama agreed to amnesty for illegal immigrants in return for health care votes? we'll explore that in two minutes. at sharp, our goal

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>> 24 minutes now after the hour. here is what's happening for you this morning. dozens of firefighters finally manage to continue the massive brush fire after it burned through 100 acres in new jersey. 50 people were forced to evacuate their homes because of the heavy smoke, but they've since been allowed to return to their homes this morning. and check out this video. a driver loses control of a car, dps through lanes of traffic and land in someone's back yard. and you can see the vehicle laying on its roof in california yard.

incredibly no one was injured. how is that possible, dave. >> i do not know, clayton. president obama now has the congressional hispanic caucus on his side on the health care bill, did he agree to amnesty for illegals in exchange for votes? for fair and balanced debate we're joined by frank sherry, measured america's voice and dan stein president of federation for american immigration reform. good morning to both of you and thanks for being here. dan, let me start with you, those two seem to come hand in hand the congressional spanish caucus supporting the health care bill and the president supporting a rather unpopular plan for amnesty for millions of illegals. was there a quid pro quo or just coincidence? >> well, you know, we've gone back over the campaign records. the president never said on the campaign trail he supported a nas amnesty, so, last week, it appeared to us and we're offended by this, that the president promised mass amnesty for 13 million

illegal aliens in exchange for getting the support of the hispanic caucus i guess for insurance ultimately, ultimately for illegal aliens. we all know that there's a big price tag to the health care bill. a big amnesty bill further exas baits the-- exacerbates this, for years to come. how is it that the president has to suddenly link health care for amnesty for millions of people jumping in line. 15 percent of people right now at day labor sites are-- >> dan, i've got to let frank get a word in here and he's smiling. >> no, you don't. >> because assume he doesn't agree, your response. >> look, barack obama won election by promising a number of priorities, one health care reform, second, immigration reform. he's not interested in amnesty, he's interested in solving the illegal immigration crisis by securing our borders and cracking down on illegal hiring and

requiring people to become legal taxpayers. that's a good deal for the taxpayer and the american people. >> dan, i want to road you a quote from lindsey graham, south carolina, the first casualty of the democratic health care bill will be immigration reform. if the health care bill goes through this weekend, that will in my view, pretty much kill any chance of immigration reform passing the senate this year. does it kill the chance of anything meaningful happening this year? >> well, look, you know, the proposal that we got that came out just after the hispanic caucus primmed they'd vote for health care sounds exactly like the fiasco in 2007. amnesty, no serious border control. the administration said they were going to get our border under control with their secure fencing initiative. at that strategic initiative has collapsed, it's not working, they're not able to get the job done now. why would we accept promises of prospective future enforcement in exchange for amnesty now. >> let me ask you, there's a

match on washington it demand immigration reform and the president despite vague remarks during the state of the union, are you satisfied with what he's done or the lack of activity thus far. >> no we're not. that's why there's going to be more than 100,000 people on the mall. he can't do it alone. we need bipartisan support. we're troubled that lindsey graham may be stepping back. at the end of the day, this is going to require both parties to step up. most democrats are for immigration reform. very few republicans. i hope that the republican party will work with democrats to get this done this year. this is a problem that frufs the american people. we've got to eliminate illegal immigration with reform. >> sorry, guys, we're-- >> i don't think anyone accepts frank cherry's assessment. he's been opposed for years, why would we buy the same snake oil. we're for enforcement. no, you're not. >> with the 11 million people.

>> you lie big guy. >> and it will continue today on the national mall. you said, frank, you could expect 100,000 people demanding immigration reform. this debate will continue. we appreciate you both being here this morning. >> thanks a lot. >> the red river is set to chris today, as residents there are already dealing with massive flooding. rick reichmuth with a live report from the river's bank. >> and you heard about sandra bullock's husband, reportedly being unfaithful. the tattoo model. nonetheless. is it a sign that men overall can't handle successful women? the interesting psychology behind why men cheat in these dayses. [ female announcer ] sometimes you need tomorrow to finish what you started today. for the aches and sleeplessness in between, there's new motrin pm. no other medicine, not even advil pm, is more effective for pain and sleeplessness. new motrin pm. is more effective for pain and sleeplessness. it's tough to reach that five servings a day if you don't always like the taste of vegetables.

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idea. i've got tim birchy with the army corps of engineers and you guys had your work cut out in the last week. how do you prepare for an event like this? >> it starts early. we monitor snow up in this part of the world and we knew we had a threat as far back as january and then we put together the organization and asset we needed and started a few weeks ago and the forecast moved the crest up to today, actually. in about four days we had to crest what we were going to do in a couple of weeks into a couple of days. >> i wasn't aware that fargo actually only has about a mile and a half of permanent levees in place. you guys built 20 miles of levees, within about the last four 0 five days. how do you accomplish that kind of work and is there a possible way to restructure this so that you don't have to be doing this every year? >> well, actually how it's constructed, what we use local contractors and we go in a lot of places at once, in 24 hour

opes and things get real busy. the local communities are good about giving us access routes and things like that, so, you just throw offing you have at it and seems to work out pretty good and temporary measures are built much quicker and not the great security that permanent ones are. a permanent one a sought by the wear and working with the local corps of engineers and preferred alternatives. so, the push started last year with the 2009 flood and continues now to look at some permanent solutions so we don't have to do this rush temporary work every year. >> now, you're referring to a diversion plan for the river that would basically move the river around this fargo moorhead area and this is the last kind of major area that doesn't have that kind of a plan. there are two states involved here, so you, the local governments have approved this plan. now what has to happen to get the fund are to this kind of project? >> well, now that they have a recommendation and yes,

includes a diversion and allows a fair amount of water to come through town and it would divert the mainly floods around town, the major water. now, it's additional study needs to be done, there's a lot of environmental work and economic analysis that has to be done and if the project is approved at the federal level down the road apiece, then it's securing funding and constructing something like this. so that's a several year project. right, sounds like about ten years before something like that could be done that may be the permanent solution could avoid the floods happening in the future. >> thanks, rick, we'll check with you later. and get a better assessment, too, once the sun comes up. >> in the meantime the rest of your headlines, we start with a fox news alert. a video from pakistan after a deadly bombing, at least two people are dead, a dozen hurt. look at this aftermath. the bomb exploded on a bicycle as a police van drove by. and one of the hot beds for

militants in southwest pack stance. the bodies of four pakistani tribesmen kidnapped more than a week ago, riddled with bullets. believed to have been killed by the taliban for being u.s. spies. a small plane in southern india, a small explosive was found inside the cargo hold inside the kingfisher airline flight. it was not attached to a detonator, nonetheless, they call it a serious security breach and india has been on high alert after the blast killed 16 people last month. a volcano erupts in southern iceland forcing more than 500 people to evacuate. look at that shot of it. so far no reports of any injuries, the volcano is next to a glacier and there's concern about melting ice and possible flooding and forced iceland air to send three flights bound for the country back to boston. here is some potentially good news for balding men. go ahead. >> clayton. >> especially those who are losing their locks at a young age.

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freel now with us every sunday, with an interesting story in the entertainment world and this one about sandra bullock and that reportedly cheating husband we've been talking about, what an awful story. >> so many people were upset about this. one day she seemed to have everything, a great marriage with a loving husband and this oscar win for best actress for performance in the blind and then the reports that he's cheating on her. what drives a man to cheat on women who are beautiful and successful. we've got a clinical psychologist with me this morning. >> good morning. >> like i said a lot of people were really upset about this. >> sure. >> they seemed so in love. why go from sandra bullock to the michelle bombshell mcgee, why cheat? >> i think part of what's going on with jesse james, he is attracted to a certain type. before this marriage about sandra he was married to an adult film actress who was also covered from head to toe in tattoos and now with this

other woman, an affair with this the other woman, kind of like dirty girl with the tattoos, even though he married sandra, a definitely type he likes and i think he reverted to that and part of what may have pushed him there perhaps they were having issues we don't know about. as soon as you here about a perfect marriage, a red flag goes up. there's no such thing as a perfect marriage i can tell you as a psychologist. may have been something going on with them, he's great success and he's the stand by guy. >> and i interviewed sandra on the red carpet and jess was kind of following along and i tried get him to answer some questions. what happens when there's one with a persian gulf career and forced to spend time apart for your job. >> certainly, if you have someone who is a big star in a marriage and spending a lot of time away from the marriage, a lot of things can develop, communications issues, jealousy issues, but it becomes a real big problem, i

hate to say it, guys, don't get mad, but when the woman is the big star, when she's as powerful or more powerful than the guy, the male ego has a problem with it and then, men tend to act out, whether it's an affair, drinking, whatever, competitive thing may be going on that they're self-medicating through the things. that's what happened. >> should she forgive him? what happens in cases like this? >> i don't think she should forgive him. i think if she loves him and he still loves her that they certainly should try to work it out. every couple deserves a chance. >> and finally the ladies behind us, they were actress winners, best actress winners, halle berry, hillary swank, kate winslet. they broke up after the award. is there an oscar curse. there's an oscar curse, we know the women who are successful who win the oscars may have the issues, doesn't happen so much with the guys.

and part of it is may have been shaky marriages to begin with and as you said being apart from their mates doing these movies and getting all of these accolades, all of those things impact that shaky marriage or marriage that's not in-- that has a particularly strong foundation. >> sean penn is the only one in recent history is has broken up after the best actor award. thank you, have a great sunday, back to you. >> i think we can all agree marrying a guy who once married a porn star, not a great idea. >> and jesse james, a name. >> coming up on the show, we know that republicans disagree with the health plans. we'll hear from president obama as cousin, he's a doctor and why he's against the overhaul next. >> and married people are likely to be overweight? >> niemei'm not buying it. >> dave is not buying it.

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>> there has been thrown every argument at this legislative effort, but when it turns out at the end of the day what we're talking about is common sense reform. that's all we're talking about. >> president obama making his case for health care reform, but some doctors feel the plan could lean to-- lead to a rationing of care and even drive up premium costs. >> one of those doctors isn't just another critic, he's also the president's second cousin. dr. milton wolf joins us live from kansas city, mind you. my condolences on your kansas jayhawks, but we will start this morning with health care. of course, millions of americans out there want to know why is this health care plan bad for me? you talk about rationing in some of your arguments, why is

this plan bad for americans? >> well, hidden within the 2700 pages of this bill is the very rationing that this congress has said is not there. in section 3403, it's the creation of the medicare rationing commission and what this does, they have one purpose in mind, they're in fact required to recommend medicare cuts and their goal is simple to give less resources to medicare payment. >> i have to ask you, you're in a unique position as second cousin to the president of the united states. have you talked to the president about this, have you had conversation was him? have you said, sir, with all due respect you're family, but i've got a problem with this? >> i have not spoken to-- about this with him directly, but the opinions of doctors are very well-known. it's by no mistake that the vast majority of doctors in this country are opposed to this because we know it will be harmful to our patients.

>> also, some of the positives in this plan, we had dr. segal on the show earlier this morning and he said he pointed out some pros on this and you know, we went through actually some of the positives. he says medicaids rates will be closer to the medicare costs and hospitals, excuse me, hospitals are now actually being paid for this. regional exchanges on the bill will be cut and administrative costs for doctorsment isn't that a plus? >> well, certainly there's a lot of work that can be done and i hope when you write 2700 pages of a bill you'll find something in there that's good. on balance that won't. on balance what this will do is make health care less accessible because there will be less providers if this goes throughment recently we learned from the new england journal of medicine almost half of doctors would seriously consider leaving the profession if this were to go through. we could give everybody a shiny insurance card, but if you don't have doctors to accept it, it won't do any

good. that number shocked me 30% said they could leave in part because of medicare reimbursement. where does it divide between the thousands of doctors supporting this bill and the thousands of doctors like yourself who think it's awful for the future of america? where is the dividing. where is the one dividing issue? >> well, let's first say, america has the finest health care delivery system in the world. we have, we have problems with the financial side of our medicine system and we all recognize we need to do something and i think at this point, a lot of people have kind of thrown their hands in the air and said, you know, we need to do something. you know, throwing gasoline on a fire is doing something, but it doesn't mean it's going to do good. there are a lot of good things that we could do, but we don't see them in this bill. >> dr. milton wolf. not a happy day for him. health care going through and his kansas jayhawks out, also, second cousin to the president. >> thanks for picking on him again. >> i carry the scars of the first and second rounds for the jayhawks, thank you. >> thanks so much for joining

us this morning. >> people in kansas still have kansas state to root for. thank you. >> parents headed back to school why some are headed to the classrooms to understand how to deal with their teenagers. >> hear from a dad and his teen daughter next. there they are. how do you deal with a teen daughter. he'll tell us next. ú?

>> listen up parents. a lot of you say you're having a hard time connecting with your kids, mostly your teenagers, so now some parent resorted to going back to school to figure out how to deal with teenagers. the parent universities as they're called are popping up across the country. do they work? bob says his relationship with his daughter ashley was not that great until he enrolled

in the classes and i welcome bob and ashley to join me now to talk about it. welcome, guys. >> hi. >> thanks, good morning. >> i want to start with you, about two years ago you say that your relationship with ashley, who at the time was i guess 15 years old was becoming strained and was deteriorating. what were some of the problems you were having? >> well, it was, you know, every day drama and not really knowing how to cope with it, how to really get through and i was trying as hard as i could and i think i was failing pretty good at it. >> ashley, what did you think the problem was with yours and your dad's relationship? >> well, we just kind of had a disconnect about it. he didn't really know how to communicate to me and that was the problem where he would start yelling and i would block him out. >> sure, you're not alone. what's fascinating about your story, you believe it wasn't ashley that had to change, but it was you, so you decided to

take advantage of this parent university go back to school and take some classes, let me tell our viewers what some are called. parties and the law was the name of one, sexting and social networking and alcohol and drug awareness, what did you learn in some of the classes, bob. >> welsh the first thing i learned, i was lucky enough the first session was by dr. michael bradley and he was talking about dysfunctional parenting and i was wondering how he knew me so well. but then he started talking about what really worked and that really started to connect and i got involved with his book and within a couple of weeks you could feel the changes in the house. and within a couple of months, all the tension was gone and the only person in the house that changed was me. and it was, you know, really learning how to connect with the kids and how to understand their world so that you know, you have some relevance in what you say to them. >> ashley, how did your dad

change after taking the classes and your relationship with him change? >> well, he talks to me a lot more on my level and when i got in trouble instead of coming at me screaming at me and telling me what i did wrong. you know, he sat me down and talks to me like you know, on a respectful level and how you've got to talk to us, if you yell it's not going to work and we get defensive, but he talks to me on my level and i respect him a lot more and willing to accept my punishment rather than just being mad about it. >> incredible. it sounds leak your cad dad got schooled in the ways of teenager. bob, how much did the parenting university, classes cost? >> absolutely nothing. through our high school district this is the glenn bart high school district in the western chicago suburbs, the classes are all free and they were basically funded by a grant from the goodman center in chicago. larry goodman's daughter died, excuse me, granddaughter passed away two and a half

years ago from a heroin overdose and we got a $100,000 grant last summer funding speakers for three years. >> wow. >> so these are classes free to anyone in the community so it's-- >> well, it's great. i mean, it sure has worked out for you guys and we want to tell our viewers it's not just in your community, parent universiti universities like this are sprouting up all over the country to help parents and children reconnect. you seem closer and have a great relationship now. if our viewers want to know how to take classes go to foxnews.com and we'll tell you if there's a class in your area, too. thanks so much for coming on, guys. >> bye, thank you. >> as you know, it's decision day for democrats. the vote on their health care bill is hours away and republicans are fighting till the last minute to stop this from passing.

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they need? we'll break that down ahead for you. >> and home owners sandbagging to protect their homes and holding their collective breaths as the bloated red river nears its crest, we're live along the banks with the very latest. >> and it's every young man's dream, bringing a model to the prom. so, how did one teen get the attention of a maxim model. >> dinner, limos and, yeah. >> how could she possibly say no after that kind of a proposal? come to my prom, it worked for him. the prom was last night and the slogan this hour from maureen in new york which. warm and sunny in the east where "fox & friends" is the best to say the very least. you don't need to say least, you can keep going. we'll let you do the whole hour. >> it's "fox & friends." >> good morning everybody, obviously, a very big day on capitol hill and really across

the country. i mean, something. >> long day. >> historic could be happening today, but it's on the precipice. democrats the number who is in favor and who is not is ever wavering, even at this late hour. >> now, this will affect millions and millions of americans, we focus on capitol hill, but this affects every one of us. let's start with caroline shively in washington d.c. this morning. caroline of course we're all focused on the number. does it appear the democrats have the votes to pass this enormous legislation? >> they seem to think so, dave, that magic number is 216 to get this thing passed. by fox estimated house vote they have 216 who are for or leaning for, and 215 against or leaning against. certainly not hard and fast numbers though, there are some uncommitted listed in there. we're basing how they voted in november in the house bill, but today of course they're voting on the senate bill. >> i'm looking at the schedule and what's great about caroline shively. she breaks it down for us.

>> appreciate that, caroline. >> you look at this thing, beginning around one o'clock this afternoon. make sense this have, what's next. >> first the start off, a lot of little votes nicknamed bed check votes. everyone has to come to the floor and can't hide out in the offices and leadership can make sure where everyone stands and are you with us, a few hours later where the important stuff happens, they'll vote on the senate bill and then reconciliation probably wrapping up early evening and that could slide though. the rules committee tossed out the deem and pass plan last night at nearly midnight. that was a controversial maneuver where they would have skipped the hard vote on the actual senate bill only voting on reconciliation bill. another thing to look for today probably sometime this afternoon is a motion to recommit. republicans will try to use that to kill the bill and appear 100% united against it and yesterday republican leader john boehner called the next 24 hours armageddon. >> are there people at this late hour are undecided? do we know who the uncommitted

votes are? >> there's a handful who are holding out. they aren't telling us how they're going to vote, but probably told the democratic leadership. there are some they certainly don't have locked in yet. house speaker nancy pelosi can only lose 37 of they are own members and still get it passed in the house. as we've seen in the past she could still be whipping members during the vote tonight where some of the uncommitted votes could come in. they don't want to be on record voting for the bill if they don't have to. their constituents may not like it, but pelosi may come to them during the actual vote and say i need you. please switch to a yes. so it's going to be a nail-biter, guys, as it stands now, one vote separates the yeses and the nos. >> wow, unbelievable. >> thank you, caroline. >> thank you, caroline, what a day it's an enormous, impactful piece of legislation, but also very divisive as you know. no republicans in the house, no republicans in the senate support this bill very different than social security and medicare. that's why the president was on capitol hill on saturday, speaking directly to members of

congress. going on the offensive. here is a piece. >> i noticed that there is a been a lot of friendly advice offered, all across town. mitch mcconnell, john boehner, karl rove, they're all warning you of the horrendous impact if you support this legislation. now, it could be that they are suddenly having a change of heart and they are deeply concerned about their democratic friends. (laughter) >> but it may also be possible that they realize after health reform passes, and i sign that legislation into law, that it's going to be a little harder to mischaracterize what this effort has been all about. >> house minority leader john boehner rolling into the tea

parties on capitol hill. applauding and yelling kill the bill. he apriefd-- arrived almost like a beatle coming here for the first time. and. >> democratic leaders are telling their members after it passes it's going to become much more popular. well, they're dead wrong. this fight is not over. this fight is continuing. they do not have the votes yet. we've got to keep working to make sure that they never ever ever get the votes to pass this bill. >> you used the word armageddon. what did you mean by that? >> this health care bill will ruin our country. it's time to stop it. >> the rhetoric was definitely getting red-hot. when you used the armageddon. in the meantime, there was something very serious that congressman elie hastings said, actually we recalled yesterday the rules committee was in session for at least probably 12

hours going over exactly how this vote is going to happen today. all the rules, the parliamentary procedure so it was curious when we heard congressman say this, listen. >> ain't no rules around here. we're trying to accomplish something and therefore, when the deal goes down or all of this talk about rules, we make them up as we go along. >> i know, folks, that's not a parity, that's real. he really said that. i was so astonished. >> because now we've got inside the sausage making process. as most americans, we read the e-mails and tweets and do they make this up as it goes along. >> this is the stuff that americans are fed up with, why people are so angry and to acknowledge it by the camera. >> i don't know that that's true. i mean, give me the 12 hours of my life back from yesterday then if there are no rules. that's exactly what the rules committee did.

they sat there and laboriously went over. >> more than 14 hours. >> more than 14 hours the rules. so how is that accurate? >> the point is they're writing the rules for debate and get to pick the rules that go into the debate that they vote on today. let's pick this rule today. let's throw this in like when you're playing monopoly with a friend and somebody does the free parking and somebody doesn't use free parking, some families use it, some don't. we're making them up as we go along. >> i have a window into saturday nigh night-- speaking of families, families in the red river region are frightened this morning because the red river is near its crest and rick reichmuth is there, looks like the sun is coming up and a better look where we're standing this morning. >> the river is going to crest today right at about 37 feet. yesterday, the prediction of 37 1/2 feet. a couple of days ago, 38 feet so that's good news. everybody is prepared and maybe for that kind of a 38 range and yet, last year, of course, we had that 40 foot crest, which

was the all-time record. so we're in better shape, however, the river is swollen and it's a lot of pressure on the temporary levees and the sand bags and that's going to be at this stage for likely at least a week. so, that's still the concern, not completely out of the water. i wanted to show you this area here, this is typically a park, there's a road that runs through it. and they say it's a frisbee park where everybody hangs out and plays. there's homes right off here that are now completely submerged and they were submerged last year as well. two years in a row. and they're saying this is kind of a meteor logically pattern we're in the last couple of decades. five of the ail all-time records have been set since 1997. so this is an ongoing problem in this area and now residents are trying to figure out how can something be done so they're not putting the situation every year. i want to take a look at a couple of pictures that i took yesterday while we were, i was landing in across the fargo

area. these pictures you're seeing here show exactly just how much water is out there. obviously, we, the media has been showing so much of the city here in some of the shots like we're located, but you've got such a good idea how much water is across this entire area and this is an old leak bed basically, that's completely flat. and the water melts and just stalls and sits right here and has no place to go and that's why they see so much flooding. i'd like to take a look at the maps, if you look at the weather maps, moorhead is on one side. fargo on the other side. the crest today at 37 feet, guys. and then certainly, some good news, folks breathing a bit of a sigh of relief, but still anxious for at least the next week or so. we'll send it back to you. >> thanks, rick. great pictures, but i couldn't help, but thinking you're not supposed to be using your electronic devices. >> you can't take a picture.

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>> means no justice, no-- the us-- many people expressing their concern that health care and economy have overshadowed the wars overseas. eight people were arrested, including anti-war activists cindy sheehan. not a good day to be flying on british airways. 40% of the flights have been canceled as cabin crew continue a three-day strike, stranding passengers. demanding more money and better working conditions to the from the airlines and promising more walkouts in the coming weeks. >> clayton. >> and who hasn't stuffed their luggage from a couple of souveniers from a hotel room. if you're looking to be shopping. here are some without the wrath of a charge. >> pens and pencils bibles. lotions and shampoos.

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com is a member of that committee and joins us this morning from washington d.c. nice to see you this morning, congressman. hey, good morning, clayton. >> so i think a lot of people are really surprised about this. i know i was. we've been talking about health care here and you guys brought this to light. why in the world is the irs expanding under the health care bill? >> think about it, it's an addressing and a secret in this deal, what's going to happen is health insurance companies are going to send the functional equivalent of a 1099 to the internal revenue service to show that people have the mandated health care coverage that speaker pelosi says they have to have in this health care bill. if they don't then there's an oversight provision where the irs is going to be imposing the individual mandate tax and of course, if you're going to be taking on that new responsibility, the irs estimates that they're going to need 16,500 new agents, employees, in order to really

foist that regime on the american people and that's what's driving this whole conversation now about expanding the irs. when really, we should be talking about expanding health care opportunities for the american public. >> hey, maybe the bright side of this democrats saying they're creating jobs, 16,000 new irs agents out there. >> yeah. >> a little bit of an irony there, that this is the job creation program that's so rebust and really, if you look at it over a ten year period it's going to require additional 10 billion dollars, i think, clayton, this is one of the reasons why the public, the more they learn about this, the more they hear, the more they sense what's going on, they're just recoiling from it. i met with people yesterday who had driven in overnight as part of the rally to oppose this effort and start over and it's these types of things that i think people are just finding jarring and disconcerting. let's throw up on the screen for for the viewers, provide more context what this irs thing lumped in with health care looks like. i'll go through and agents verify you have acceptable

health care coverage and irs agents will have to verify that and then you'll get fined for this and they'll handle that. >> right, here is the level of. here is what can happen. you will get a fine, a tax, you will get an obligation that you're going to have to pay to the federal government unless you have the prescribed mandated coverage that the federal government tells you, if you have an irs refund coming, they can confiscate that. they're in all likelihood going to have he bes panned audit authority and the ability to come in and audit to make sure. look, this is going to be done on a month by month basis, if you can believe it and that's why the public is saying, come on, enough of this. let's focus on bringing costs down. >> all right, congressman thank you for waking up and dealing with this this morning before you have to head over to the hill. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up here on the show, incredibly disturbing video. a baby sitter caught on camera throwing, slapping, kicking, a 11 month old baby. judge jeanine pirro weighs in on

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>> we want to warn you that the video we're about to show is very disturbing, we're not showing you the most violent part of it. a camera set up by a couple, showing their baby sitter doing all sorts of atrocious thing, whipping a ball at a 11 month old baby and slapping and kicking him and the baby sitter said she did it because she was mad at the child's parents. judge jeanine pirro joins us this morning and we apologize for that video. tough to watch. and i understand that the charges thus far against this nanny are battery on a child and it seems like a lot more ought to be forth coming, right. >> it depends on the circumstances. battery on a child can be a

felony in florida. there's no question that the law enforcement authorities are going to take this case seriously, i mean, the arrest was made almost immediatery, but the irony here, the parents felt things weren't going right and they didn't see the beating until after they fired him. and they had a bad feeling because what do they do because strangers take care of our kids every day, you do the best they can, and they install a nanny cam and showed exactly what we see there, and in terms of criminal trial, turn on the nanny cam, it's over. >> that's admissible, always admissible even though there wasn't permission to record. >> first of all, understand this, this is very important, parents have the right in every state in this country to install a nanny cam. >> that's good news. >> okay, that's good news, the only issue is whether or not in your state you can actually do the audio recording, you might need her permission, you know what for most you don't need an audio recording, you don't need it, but a lot of parents need to understand what they've got is

almost an obligation to watch what's happening with their kids. i've handled cases where kids have been maimed, murdered thrown across the walls and killed and we have in new york, kira's law as a result of a case in my office, the woman had a criminal record and parents didn't know it. we need someone to take care of our kids, because they look nice and sound nice, hogwash. are they poor drivers, drinkers, do they have workers' comp claims. how do you find at that out? >> you can do it with kiran's law and a criminal check. it could be the friends are out of state and i can't meet with you. you've got to go with your dput and install the nanny cam. >> do we have an idea what the nanny would be looking at. >> hopefully several years for this kind of thing, but now what, it depends how injured the child was, we hear, thank god this baby is going to be okay,

but there are thousands of children every year who suffer serious injury at the hands of these people, that we bring into our homes because we think that they're okay. >> let's hope the judge makes an example of this horrible person, this nanny. thank you for being here this morning. tough story. >> meanwhile, flood waters are drenching homes and streets as the red river spills its banks. rick reichmuth is live in minnesota with the latest. >> and a colorado teen gets to take a usc model to the big dance by making this video. ♪ >> he's joining us this morning to tell us how the big date went last night. >> who wouldn't that win over, we ask you? >> you're going to hear firsthand how the prom went. . 98% of women who tried neutrogena healthy skin makeup thought so. does your makeup do that?

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problems. the fact that i had kansas winning the national championship actually when he was talking i was thinking maybe he should have been coaching kansas maybe we would have won that game. i think everyone had kansas, right? >> well, in the tournament there are certainly a lot of surprises, but in this health care debate are there any type of last second surprises, some major upsets like northern iowa winning yesterday? is there anything that can happen at the last second today? >> we don't know. the fact is that we just don't know because there is no reliable whip out there unless the democrats-- we are going to be talking on the fox broadcast network with debbie wasserman schultz, they supposedly had a whip count last night. if anybody knows whether they have 216 hard confirmed votes to pass the bill it will be her. we have a whip conference, a lot

of indefinite or leaning. this is extraordinary, never seen anything quite like it. the president's signature, domestic policy issue, final vote today. and we don't, frankly, know the outcome. >> and not only that, chris, you know the president went to the capitol yesterday to try to hold a little bit after pep rally with democrats and after that, we got word that two democrats switched to no. so, this is not the last minute persuasion is going in both directions. >> well, that's right. and look, one of the things we've seen in this is the president has been selling and selling and selling to the american people for a year now and the support for health care reform has declined, not increased. so, he may give-- i thought he gave a very good speech yesterday, but i'm not sure that he's making the sale and to the only people that count, which is those 216 democrats he needs. >> well, chris, you're a student of history and obviously cover washington deeply, you know the historical context here. have you ever experienced anything like this where there's not some bipartisan support from

the other side for major legislation? we were talking about it this morning, 70 republicans voted for medicare in 1965. 81 republicans voted for social security. >> well, i can remember a few. for instance, when bill clinton passed his big first budget, which had an increased tax increase for wealthier americans and had a bunch of spending cuts. that passed on an almost straight party line vote and there were some people, most famously, margo list, whose son is about to marry chelsea clinton, and lost her seat. certainly a major entitlement i can't think of one that was a straight party line vote and the only bipartisanship was the opposition. not much for you to talk about, chris. who is on the show? >> talking to deb ye wasserman schultz and who will give the latest vote count and whether the president is going to sign

an executive order on abortion to try to get some of the pro-life democrats aboard. and also as you can see on the screen there, paul ryan, really arising star in the republican party. one of the leaders of the house republicans and he'll tell us what was really in the reconciliation fix-it bill. did it really fix the problems in the senate bill or add more of it and then we'll find out, if this passes it's not the end. battle. the reconciliation bill goes to the senate and senator john corning will talk about legal challenges, points of water, and campaigns to appeal and amendment, amendment, amendment. >> chris, get your red bull, working overtime. >> i'm ready, baby! >> he is loaded for bear. thanks, chris. other news to tell you about. fox news alert, new video into our news room from pakistan after a bombing in a southwestern city. at least two people are dead, a dozen hurt bot exploded on a

bicycle. quetta is one of the hot beds. me believe, the bodies of tribesmen kidnapped a week ago were found riddled with bullets. they're believed to have been killed by the taliban for allegedly being u.s. spies. and israel says it will not stop controversial settlement. they urged israel to back off the settlement project and moon says the israeli netanyahu will meet. ray lahood will head to japan this summer to talk about the safety problem with toyotas. toyota recalled more than 8 million vehicles last fall, many for sudden acceleration problems. lahood will also take a look at japan's high speed rail problem to see if a similar system would work in the u.s. check out a pined-sized

daredevil. a video released of a now seven-year-old fulfilling his life long dream of skydiving 14,000 feet above the skies of mexico. but get this, he did it when he was only five. this tyke says he's already planning his next trip. where are his parents? >> i thinks' strapped to one. >> tandem, yeah, buddy, right where they ought to be. pulling the cord! >> that's great. >> look at his cheeks. speaking of thrilling, march madness, upset chris wallace and others winning the entire ncaa tournament. number one overall kansas goes down because of that shot. a gutsy shot. three-pointer with plenty of time on the shot clock. northern iowa upset number one, 69-67. >> i wanted them to yell and i was yelling dents shoot that three, don't shut that three. >> another tough loss for the

doocy family, 10th seed took down villa nova. 32 points to lead the gales, sorry, doocies, anyway, i guess, if you're the democrats, i'm not making a sports analsy at this point because what happened, a team that everyone said was going to win it all failed at the last second. and if i'm john boehner i'm going to trot out that sports analogy today. >> i'm sure you'll hear plenty today and we'll trot them out for you tomorrow. rick reichmuth is standing near the red river in minnesota. a lot of problems this morning. what's the latest? >> there are a lot of problems and today will be the crest of the river. right at about 37 feet. it had been predicted to crest at 38 feet. keep in mind last year, 48 feet. all-time record. but 37 feet is well above major flood stage. 19 feet above which causes a lot of concern and many temporary

levees had to be put in place and many things had a happens is a water rescue and we're on the border between two states and the coast guard gets involved. explain to me how the coast guard is involved in something in north dakota. >> anytime we have two states separated by waterway, lake, river, it ends up being a federal jurisdiction and we manage those waterways. >> okay, and one of the things you guys have been doing is going out and there have been some water rescues that had to be done. can you tell me about that? >> yes, we've gone to several places so far and pulled people out that that no longer want today stay in the flood fight. i goes they tired out and want today come in, we brought them in. >> are there people out in homes you know of. any farms potentially in harm's way that might need help still? >> absolutely, there are lots of folks out there.

they want to maintain their place and they've built up berms and we've been taking a tally of them and we know where to go to, if it hits the fan, so to speak. >> and what kind of things in place, helicopters, boats and what tools in your arsenal to help with this. >> on scene two helicopters at our disposal that are coast guard helicopters. we have six, eight air boats between fish and wild life and coast guard and local water rescue people. okay. and any adventure people who try to get out on the water and see if they can have some fun here, what happens to these people? >> well, we'll go out and we'll find them. we really don't want to add any more fuel to the fire so we really want those folks off of there. we have some legal things we can do with them, but our primary concern is their safety and we'll go out and educate them and bring them back in and keep them safe. all right, guys, this river quite amazing, everything you're seeing here is a park, here in moorhead, minnesota, other side of the river, fargo, north

dakota. a park, a road. right now looks completely like a lake, it's frozen over, it's cold. everybody now is pretty much the sand bags are in, the temporary levees are in and now people are hoping it holds as the water remains at the elevated level well over a week. >> rick, thank so much for all of the bird's eye view from there. >> i think that rick ought to do the spring fitness challenge by sandbagging. >> i'm sure he will for a few days. >> that'd be heavy. and perk up the guns. coming up on the show, a war of words from both sides of the aisle as the house nears a historic vote here on health care. who has made the most convincing argument so far? frank luntz on whose words are packing the biggest punch next. >> he said the night was quote, amazing. a teenager gets to take a maxim model to his spring dance. this was just last night. we are going to hear the post game wrap-up from him here live. we've woken him up this morning

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>> fighting words from both sides of the aisle as the house nears a historic vote today on health care, but who is making the most convincing argument herements here is the word doctor himself, frank luntz. good morning. >> good morning, you know, it's interesting, you've got-- it looks like the democrats are likely to win later today, but if you count the percentage of americans that supported this health care legislation when it started, 69%, and now it's down to 37% who want this legislation to pass, you have to say that the republicans won the language battle, but democrats are going to win the war. >> and why is that, frank? it seems like what's being said publicly, you look at your book, words that work, a little plug for you, what is being said publicly is completely different than what is said behind closed doors. we're not hearing what's being

said, right? >> that's one of the issues that the american people are not hearing what's being said and why the reasons for the support for the legislation has dropped. the right to know what is in the legislation is one of the highest values that the american people want and they're not getting it. look, it's the democratic language of we can't accept the status quo versus the republican language of government takeover of health care. while the republican language has beaten the democratic language it looks like the democrats have been successful. let me play one of the clips of barack obama yesterday where listeners get a chance to hear what the final democratic arguments really are. let's take a look. >> something inspired you to be a democrat. instead of running as a republican because somewhere deep in your heart, you said to yourself. i believe in an america in which we don't just look out for ourselves. we don't just tell people you're on your own. and we are proud of our

individualism. we're proud of our liberties, but we also have a sense of neighborliness and a sense of community and we are willing to look out for one another. >> you see, he's using that embracing that universal concept and the public does believe that, but here is the issue, guys. while they want us to look out, while they do believe we are our brother's keeper they also don't want washington assume that go role. we want to take on that role ourselves. a second clip for you, this is the closing republican message as spoken by minority leader john boehner and conference chair mike pence. >> important that they understand that it's not the president's house, that it's not the speakers' house, that it's the people's house and this weekend, house republicans mr. stand with the american people. >> this fight is not over. this fight is continuing. they do not have the votes yet. we've got to keep working to make sure that they never ever,

ever, ever get the votes to pass this bill. >> and actually, that's what a majority of americans do want, is that they don't want this legislation. now, make no mistake, americans do support health care reform it's just they don't support this health care reform. >> and that's what caught me about what obama said yesterday, frank, because if i'm sitting there and i'm on the fence as a democratic congressman, and i know my district is against this bill which many of them are, i'm saying to myself, wait, you're telling me to listen to the american people and if i do that, i may have to vote no on this bill. >> but here is the challenge, the president made an appeal to democrats, which is very powerful, which is if you can't pass this for me with this majority, you will have undermined if not destroyed my presidency and it's very hard for a wavering democrat to look your president straight in the eye and say, i'm sorry, sir, i'm voting with the american people. >> frank luntz, always fascinating stuff. those are the final arguments headed into the home stretch

this afternoon. thanks so much for providing some context for us this morning. >> it's a pleasure, thank you. >> thanks, frank. >> now, every boy's dream is coming up. he took a big chance, asked a maxim model to his school dance and unbelievably she said yes based in part on this video. how did it go? it was last night. we'll find out. >> there he is. >> from the stud himself, the teenager, connor cordova, the guy everyone's envious of here this morning. ♪ nothing beats the sound of saving time and money. and it's never been simpler to save - with regions lifegreen checking and savings for business. you'll enjoy free online and mobile banking. and with regions quick deposit, you can deposit checks right from your desk. drop by and get started with a business financial review through a regions cashcor analysis. it's how business gets into the rhythm of saving. regions it's time to expect more.

>> you know it's a pig day when we're here on sunday. senator casey is with us this

morning and eric bowling, right down the list here we'll talk to chris wallace and just about everybody else, and we have a huge lineup of very big voices and a very big day. >> and coming back, rob andrews in new jersey, wow, what's going to happen? that's why we're here. >> everybody wants to know. >> see new eight minutes everybody. see you at the top of the hour. >> i think we need to have them here every sunday. >> yeah, nice having them here, but we can top everyone they've got coming on the show, here is why, most guys wish they could bring a model as a date to the prom. one high school senior made his dream reality. post add plea on youtube to get the attention of maxim model air arianna seles. >> and we're talking dinner, limo and me.

(laughter) >> so for some reason, that worked, and last night was the big date. so, how did it go? the lucky stud conner cordova joins us now. thanks for getting up so early. how was the date? >> oh, man the date was so afternoon, she was fantastic. i mean, the whole thing couldn't is turned out better. i mean, the whole evening was just a dream come true. it was a charity event through stronger haiti.org, it made it better. >> hopefully your dance didn't turn out like my senior dance when you get to the dance and like the girl ditches you. >> and runs off with her girlfriend. did you actually get to dance with her? >> i did. i did. it was fantastic. she's a good dancer, i had to take it easy because my dance moves as you could tell are just so fantastic, but-- >> didn't want to blow her away. >> it was a great time. a great, great time. >> conner, she's not here so you my friend, can kiss and tell.

did you get a smooch? >> i did. >> hey! >> i did. i have video to prove it, too, in case nobody believes me. >> do we have that? >> yeah, we have video it's all recorded. >> do we have it? we are going to see that producers can we get a glance at the kiss? >> i hope so. maybe if not it's too hot for television or something. >> and the world to see. >> the world premier, obviously of the kiss. but why isn't she here with you this morning as previously scheduled? >> what did you do sm. >> she has to work tonight a ufc event tonight all i have to do is go and enjoy myself and see actually has to work so i get the easy job and hang out with you guys, and she has to do her job later on. >> i think you've got the better job. >> i've got to ask you this going forward you had the first date. now what i really want to know is this second date. can you seal the deal. can you move forward, do we see

wedding bells in your future? >> well, i don't know. i got the phone number, so maybe i'll be calling her up and next time i'm in l.a. and like, hey. >> that's huge. >> let's hang out. >> well, coner before we comb. what's kind of the moral of the story for guys out there across the country who are now stepping up and saying, hey, man, maybe i could score myself a model, what's the moral? >> the moral is anything's possible, persistence breaks down resistance and i mean, the whole thing is fantastic. especially and people are so supportive of your dreams, people like my sponsors, zion's energy drink, man you mentioned, the professional skin care, people who joined in the fight for this charity and as well as helping me make my dream come true, absolutely go for it and worst they can say is no. >> we saw the kiss there, conner, congratulations to you, more "fox & friends." >> we're out of team. >> thanks, you earned it. take a break. the mouthwash that gets teeth four times whiter

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newsroom and house democratic caucus john larson reporting the democrats do have the 216 votes to pass health care. that vote later today. >> alisyn: 1:00 ear here in the east and stick around with fox news channel all day. >> dave: and check out the after the show show, "fox & friends."com. >> after more and a year of debate we're only hours away from a vote that could prompt the -- historic changes for every, single american. house lawmakers abandoning any political trickery now expected to hold a straight up-or-down vote, on the senate's version of health care and breaking only moments ago, this chairman of the democratic caucus of the house, that is the person who counts the votes, says the party has the 216 votes needed to pass. but, there still must be a vote. president obama making a rare weekend visit to the hill yesterday to help ensure the outcome, here's part of that. >> president barack obama: every, single one of you at some point, before you arrived in

congress, and after you arriveden congress, have met constituent with heartbreaking stories. and you have looked them in the eye and you said we're going to do something about it. that is why i want to go to congress. and now, we're on the threshold of doing something about it. we're a day away. >> today is that day, good morning, special edition of america's newsroom, i'm bill helper and welcome to you and hello... >> good morning, bill. what a day, this is becoming, i'm martha mccallum, according to our tally right now, estimated house vote stands at 216, leaning for -- towards -- 4, and the other side of it, 21 against or leaning against and the magic number, you must have it ingrained in your head is 216 but nothing is guaranteed until

all of the votes are cast and all of them are counted. >> and our fox crew is working this morning, we have complete fox coverage, as it unfold, beginning, now. caroline shivley, live in d.c., good morning. we expect action on the floor of the house today. there are only 3 votes that matter. what are the three? >> reporter: you are exactly right, the three biggies are the votes on the rules, the senate bill and then, reconciliation and that doesn't come until later this afternoon. and, then wrapping up tonight. to start with, what you will see, the house gets in at 1:00 p.m., and we'll see little votes, nicknamed bed checks and everyone has to come to the floor and the leadership can make sure where they stand and check off the 216 yes votes they think they have, at this hour and you don't need to pay attention to those, but when the rules vote comes around, that is important. this rules committee passed at nearly midnight last night and threw out the deem and pass plan we have been talking about, a controversial maneuver and would

have skipped the house bill and voted on the reconciliation bill but we expect a straight up-or-down vote on both of those. >> the one that matters we talked about here. upon your introduction. how hard and fast are the 216 yes votes and conversely the 215 no votes. >> reporter: the caucus chair said yes. we have the 216 but there's plenty of squishy votes in the middle and nothing is hard and fast and as martha said it is 216 for or leaning for, and 215 against or leaning against. house speaker nancy pelosi can only lose 37 of her members and get it through. as we have seen in the past she could be whipping members during the actual vote on the house floor, bill. >> well, are republicans still in the fight and how so, caroline. >> reporter: they are definitely still in the fight and some votes on capitol hill, are, if you can't bait 'em, join 'em, this is not one of them and john boehner called the next 24

hours, arm dped doageddon and w a motion to resubmit the bill and republicans are talking about attempts to repeal it if it passes and to target dems up for re-election in november. >> thanks for that, live in washington and back to you, as we get more developments, there, from the hill. here's martha now. >> it was just about 8 weeks ago, scott brown was elected in massachusetts and looked like health care reform was dead. remember that. then came a historic round of political wrangling that led to this moment. folks, described in a simple way by the house rules committee chair woman how it will work. take a listen. >> we feel like we have been pregnant with 17 months, let's get on it. it is almost like being pregnant for 17 months and we're ready to deliver. >> saying that on two occasions yesterday.

and, a political editor for the washington examine enter joins us now. chris. it has been an amazing couple of months and what looks to be a huge turn around to get is to this moment today. >> absolutely. when you started out the process there was every assumption the democrats would succeed and almost no one thought the president and the super majority of the congress wouldn't be able to get it done and easily. we saw that change. we saw it change in august of lasting year, with the town halls and with the plummeting support for -- rather, i should say the opposition to the legislation, and, then you are right. with the election of scott brown in massachusetts the assumption was that this thing is dead and what we have seen is the president, and the democratic leadership and congress, have served we will do anything to pass this legislation. >> and there is an interesting sort of moment there, you had this blair house meetings, right, and before the blair house meetings, there was a moment when the president seemed to be hinting that he might go for a smaller plan.

so-called plan b. that, according to many reports, was sort of brain child of rahm emanuel and you have the nancy pelosi side of this, which appears now, to -- this morning's reporting, to laugh won out, and to have saddled up to the president and said, no, no we'll go for the whole enchilada. >> the argument from democratic leaders has been to borrow from congresswoman slaughter's analogy of pregnancy, if you are already pregnant you may as well go ahead and get the upside, which is, vote for the legislation, if you all rad have votes that have been damaging to your members, if you already went this far, there is no sense in williaming out at the end and that won out -- winning out at the end and you have moderate democrats, who trend republican and they said this is our way out and we'll get a compromise and the answer came from the speaker, absolutely not, you'll walk the plank like everybody else. >> a dramatic, dramatic turn of events and what the

ramifications for that will be is anybody's guess, chris, we know you will be watching it closely along with us. thank you very much for being with us on this sunday morning. >> and this broke late friday night trailed into yesterday, how possible passage of health care legislation may impact our men and women in uniform, 9 million americans. in total who are tied to the department of defense. the chairman of the house armed services committee is a democrat, ike skeleton introducing legislation to protect tricare, the defense department's health care coverage after critics claim the legislation now debated would require troops to buy additional coverage to require veterans to buy additional coverage beyond what they and their families already have through the tricare program and we're watching to see how that plays out on the house side. we'll watch that today. >> no doubt, at this point, in the weekend you have had plenty of conversations with your friends about what this is really going to mean. and, how it will change the

american way of getting health care. here's a look at what some folks think about that in the fox news opinion dynamic numbers that are recently out, look: 55% oppose this bill. 35% favor this bill. and, here's how it compares with january, just two months ago. 51% opposed the bill, and 39% favored it and you can see the shift in those numbers and that brings us to the next question: what is the best next step with all of this? ? 46% say start over. it looks like it may be too late for this. 30% say pass the current bill and 19% wish the congress would sit on their hands for the moment and do nothing about this and we want to know what you think, and we know you are talking to friends and families about what it will mean, log onto foxnews.com and go to our web page and click on the bill think, above the "you decide" question and you can read the changes including the original senate bill which will be voted on and you can share your

thought with us, and leave a comment box and we look forward to hearing what you are saying, there is no place where it is not discussed. >> we have a poll on-line now, whether or not you think it will pass, how many people voted on-line? >> 50,000. >> 223,000. i don't know if we have ever done a poll that attracted that much interest before. and now you get the -- >> the american people are extremely engaged in the issue. make no mistake about that, i cannot remember an issue this compelling that made people, you know, stand up and take notice and if anybody in washington thinks nobody is noticing this, they are very, very wrong. >> you can vote on-line, lines are open now at foxnews.com. also, there is this today. from other news, the flood threat in the midwest, people living near the rising red river in minnesota, north dakota, might have don'ted a bullet. the swollen river expected to crest today, 19 foot above flood stage and there are miles and miles of sandbags, piled high

along the banks of the river, and peter doocy is in moorehead, minnesota. >> reporter: good morning, it looks okay. but we're in the middle of the longest wet period in the history of the red river valley, i'm here in moorehead, minnesota and you can see fargo, downtown, north dakota, across the red river and the red river, right now, 19 feet above where it is supposed to be, above the flood stand, a lot of water. almost two stories more water than there is supposed to be and they expect it to stick around in major flood stage for at least another week because the water is so cold and the ground is so saturated and the good analogy, way to visualize what is going on with the flooding, it is like weight loss, you can put on weight, a lot faster and easier than you lose it and they got the water really, really fast but it will take a while for it to go away and i'm standing in the middle of the flood zoneful all of these homes, unfortunately are on the wrong side of the levy and will not be protected if the water

rises much further and these houses get flooded so often the county came in and offered to buy out some of them, and relocate the residents. some people took them up on the offer, but others did not including the two homes back here, you can see, it is heart breaking to see, look at how high the water is here and these people along with thousands of others along the red river are holding their breath as it continues to rise. back to you guys. >> was that an area that was flooded a year ago, is that part of the river where we got good prep time from a year ago, based on that experience. >> reporter: right. the water was four feet higher in this spot than it was a year ago, it was four feet higher and they built a levy, where the street normally would be in front of the houses to protect up to 40 feet, but are breathing a little bit of a sigh of relief. but it's not over yet. >> good news so far, peter doocy along the banks of the river, moorehead, minnesota and if you

have pictures of the flooding in minnesota and north dakota, send them to ureport@foxnews.com, let's hope the waters don't go too high. >> the question of comp fverage abortion is one of the most contentious of the health care battle. language in the bill prompted some pro-life house democrats to just say no to the bill. but with the final outcome hanging on every vote right now, can democratic leaders win them over? senator bob casey of pennsylvania is a pro-life democrat. he supports this bill. we'll talk to him about that. next. ♪ this one thing i'll eat, any time of day ♪ pancakes! ♪ from dawn 'til sunset, i'll never walaway ♪ ♪ blueberry pancakes are so go ♪

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of america's newsroom, a historic day, no matter the outcome of today's vote on health care. in order for the bill to pass, it needs 216 votes and the house democratic caucus chairman says his party reached that number, of committed yes votes. however, republican john boehner saying they don't have the votes. and democratic debbie wasserman-schultz saying we don't have a hard 216 and republican congressman paul ryan telling chris wallace on fox news sunday, saying she's right. it is very much influx. so, where are we? that is the drama, and that is what we are waiting on today. pro-life democrats, have been very divided on whether or not the -- to vote for the bill including congressman bart stupak out of michigan. he has argued for stricter language on abortion. back in november, when the house first took this up, he won that argument but, to date it has not been the same, late this weekend, stupak went on the record with greece ta van susteren about what he's seeing

now, roll this. >> we talk about health care and wanting to pass health care and this is an issue that still has to be resolved, i'm offering a way to resolve it. i'm not saying they are accepting it, i'm offering a way, at least i have been trying to say, okay. look we have this problem, that is preventing health care from passing. so, how can we fix it? here's a procedure. if you know a better way, madame speaker or chairman waxman, please, show me something. help move the process along. >> bill: the reason why bart stupak is critical on the house side and the house vote on this is because if they had language about abortion that satisfied him he could bring ten votes on in the "yes" column and with me is another pro-life democrat, senator bob casey, who voted for the bill, and you are catholic and pro-life and had draft legislation on the senate bill, drafted with a senator out of

nebraska and there is debate whether or not it is strong enough and here's what the u.s. conference of catholic bishops says about the language in the senate bill so far. it extends abortion coverage, allows federal funds to pay for elective abortions and denies adequate conscience protection to individuals and institutions. that is their position. what do you say to the american bishops, senator? >> i would say i think that is an incorrect reading of the senate bill. we worked very hard in the senate to make sure that federal tax dollars are not -- do not pay for abortions and you can have people on both sides of this having a good faith agreement but i think we have it right in the senate bill and if there is an executive order as reported this morning it would certainly help others reach the point where they could support the bill. i don't think it is necessary. i think we got it right in the senate bill. keeping taxpayer dollars from paying for abortion and this is often missed and not part of the debate, i believe it is

essential, if you care about reducing the number of abortions, it is not simply about language in the bill about the abortion provision, we have a $250 million program for pregnant women, especially vulnerable pregnant women, victims of domestic violence and women who get pregnant in college, one of the only ways we'll reduce abortion, if we help vulnerable pregnant women. i don't hear my colleagues who claim to be pro-life talking about that and we have a 1.2 billion dollar adoption tax credit. the new engine -- "new england journal of medicine.".. >> let me direct you back to the catholic bishops. why are they not convinced? >> clearly... >> bill: clearly there is something there that needs

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>> bill: as promised bob casey back us, democrat out of pennsylvania, i mentioned before the break, president obama says it is not perfect. well, how could it be. >> well, bill it is difficult to make any piece of legislation perfect, but there are other elements to the bill, and -- >> give me one. >> the public option. we'd have more competition and lower costs if we had a public option. >> bill: could you get votes for a public option after all of this? >> i don't think we could and that is a problem with it. but i hope, we'll pass the bill through the house and the senate and get it implemented, begin covering children, that have preexisting conditions, and, finally take away these night thei mayors but -- nightmares, but it is a good start to get it passed. >> i need a yes or no answer, would you support the signing of an executive order by the president today to toughen up

the abortion language. >> bill: i don't think it is necessary but would certainly support it. >> bill: there is talk of that, we are reporting on the 0 possibility, thank you, senator -- >> bill -- thank you very much. >> bill: you bet. >> i was going to add one more thing. >> bill: can you make it quick? we have a lot more coming up here. >> i mentioned the "new england journal of medicine" and compared the abortion law in massachusetts, before the health care coverage was pass and the abortion rate went down after the massachusetts health bill passed and a significant piece of evidence in this debate and if you have universal coverage and other protections even when you are more per miss identify on abortion. >> bill: others are waiting, martha? >> martha: we've seen wheeling and dealing and ways of getting the vote on health care and republicans say they'll watch democrats closely. during this whole process. senator tom coburn, summed it up. take a look. >> we will look at every appropriations bill, at every

level, at every instance and we will outline it, by district, and, associate that with the by in of your vote and if you think you can cut a deal now and think it will not come out until after the election i will tell you it will not happen. >> martha: joe barton introduced an amendment to stop extra funds going to louisiana, and connecticut, which have -- some suggested was a way to buy the vote in that area, and joins me now, congressman, welcome, good morning to you. >> glad to be with you. >> martha: i know those amendments were shot down, correct? >> on a party line vote. all of the republicans, all four of them voted for my amendments and all nine democrats voted against them. >> martha: you talked about the connecticut deal and the louisiana deal and also talked about removing a provision that would allow certain hospitals to benefit. i think that has to do with the agreement, that's correct. >> there is one in connecticut, probably one in florida and one in tennessee.

>> martha: and you were trying to find a way to excise the so-called sweetheart deals from this and you wanted an amendment, i thought it was interesting... to prevent the bill from taking effect until medicare and medicaid are solvent for the next 20 years. did you throw that in for good measure? i don't think you expected to get that, did you. >> one of the bits of high prosecute across is the -- hypocrisy is the defendants say it is deficit neutral and nothing could be further from the truth it adds to the deficit over a trillion dollars in ten years if you include everything that needs to be and exclude revenues that have nothing to do with health care, like the student loan program, so, that was just an honesty and advertising amendment, which, again, we weren't really hopeful the democratic leadership would accept. >> martha: and you were out spoken about not doing this through a deem and pass procedure and you must be pleased, democrats are not going to try to do that. >> i think, that is an example

of where they listened to the american people and we get elected not to get congress to deem things, we need to stand up and vote up or down on the major policy issues and today there will be a vote on the senate bill and on the reconciliation package. and, members will be accountable. so i'm pleased that they are going to do that and i want to give congressman cardoza of california, a democratic congressman credit, because he said in the rules committee, that he would not vote for a deem and pass rule, and i think when he said that, that woke their leadership up. >> martha: you know, i want to pull up a full screen that shows the members, because everybody has been watching this and we heard, tom coburn talking about it. these are the democrats who changed their vote from no, they were no in the first round to a yes. these are people who have been convinced this is now a good bill and now they like it and we don't have every one of them --

i think we do, boccieri in the bottom, markey, gordon, murphy, kosmas, boyd and kucinich who flipped the other day and, will you be watching how the votes may have come about. >> we'll be watching it and i want to say they don't have the votes locked down. they have a hunting license and have 210 hard votes for their bills now and a lot of members -- >> really. >> yes, ma'am i used to be in the whip organization and i guarantee you they don't have the votes, they have the potential to get the votes and are counting on the pressure by keeping us isolated in washington this weekend, they can get those five or six votes. >> martha: who are crucial in terms of swing votes now? >> well, i think one of them, and he's a stand up guy is congressman bart stupak of michigan. he wants to be for the bill because he's a good, loyal democrat. but he's also an absolutely

staunch pro-life person and knows that sometimes personality is more important than politics. >> martha: congressman, appreciate you being here today. we have you on the record with us this morning saying you think they are at 210, which is pretty interesting news, not what we are hearing from other side. we'll see what happens when -- >> sometimes people misrepresent their vote count. this happened before, and, there were times when you count up all the votes, it is more than 400, in this case, 431. >> martha: and that wouldn't add it, would it. >> no, ma'am. >> martha: congressman, thanks, good to have you with us today. you have a good day. >> bill: over the past 30 minutes, we have gotten considerably reaction as to whether or not they have the votes, both on the democratic side and republican side, and, it is coming from people in leadership. in motown parties. we'll go down that reaction in a matter of moments, stay tuned for that. latest on what is happening as we roll on, special edition of america's newsroom, on a sunday right after this. ♪

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>> bill: as i said before the break the news is breaking on the sunday edition of america's newsroom, steny hoyer saying the democrats will have the votes necessary when the house votes later today. meaning there are 216 or greater, the house minority leader, john boehner insisting they don't have the votes and on "fox news sunday," debbie wasserman schultz, a democrat out of florida.

partly responsible for counting the number of votes on the democratic said now they don't have the hard number of votes, right now, a quote, her words and what is going on in carl cameron is on the hill where he has spent night and day and yes. another full day, carl, it is 9:30 in washington and where in the heck are we on this now? good morning. >> reporter: good morning. they are counting votes and have been counting votes for a year and missed so many deadlines, they didn't have them and today they'll vote, they say. and it is because they think they'll get them but they don't have them, the whip organization of the democratic party will ac knowledge they think they have it but they are soft commitments which means anything can happen and there is deal making to go. and "fox news sunday," there was a great exchange between debbie worries mwasser -- debbie worris man schultz and paul ryan, the numbers crunching on the g.o.p.,

and talking about the votes for and against the health care bill. >> we don't have a hard 216 right now. so, i mean, i couldn't tell you which 216 members we will have. but, i believe, strongly we'll have 216. >> i know they want to get beyond 216. if they get 216, every democrat cast the tie breaking law and they want to get to 216 and so that point isn't taken away from them. >> reporter: it will not be taken away from them and that is a great illustration, how they are watching this through the 2010 mis terms and this promise when health care passes and have conceded it is likely to, now the issues will turn away from the package of health care in the congress to the elimination of democrats who voted for it, in the upcoming election and the battle is just beginning on that. it will be a central theme for the coming months and republicans will start trying efforts to repeal this, whether through the state attorneys

general who are threatening to take it up on constitution at -- >> bill: and john boehner said they'll try and repeal it, in november, if they try and take the house, and foxnews.com is your best other source for news, right now, the latest developments on health care, click on the speaker's lobby think on our home page and you'll find an easy follow guide to how the dramatic day on capitol hill, expected to play out. and you can decide our question of the day. bringing close to 250,000 votes, today we're asking, will the health care bill pass? we posted this, late thursday, early friday. 48% say no, 33% say yes. fox news, foxnews.com, cast your own ballot now, a quarter of a million votes. might be a record. >> martha: quite a reaction. all right, not long too, it looked like speaker nancy pelosi might be slipping in her ability to get the president's agenda

through congress and then came the scott brown senate election, folks and according to the reports this morning out there. that was a big turning point. ignited the fight. for the speaker and that is when according to the report, in politico, she convinced the president to go for the whole enchilada of health care reform and resist incrementalism. >> it didn't happen under speaker canon. nor did it happen under speaker rayburn. or mccormack. didn't happen under speaker o'neill. but, under speaker nancy pelosi we are going to pass health care for the american people. [cheers and applause]. >> martha: brad blakeman the former deputy assistant to george w. bush and, a former speechwriter to president bill clinton, both washington, d.c. insiders. and, that is why we have them here today, josh, let me start

with you. how does that report -- do you think it is accurate, nancy pelosi convinced the president, look, don't do rahm emanuel's plan b. this little, she called it the kiddy plan, what she referred to it as in the story, you need go for the whole thing and i'll do it with you. >> i'm not sure who convinced whom but what is clear she has not taken her foot off the gas, whether the brown victory, or senate package versus the house passage, he's made clear to the administration and public we'll get it through and will eb this most historic health care legislation since medicare and i'm going to get it done on my watch and it looks like today she will and that is a very big deal. >> martha: brad, what do you think it tells us about the relationship between nancy pelosi and the president, and the relationship between the president and rahm emanuel? who, by many accounts did not want this whole big health reform bill and wanted the smaller version, plan b version reported in the "wall street

journal." >> well, here's what i think, i think the president all along ceded his power to capitol hill, and had the inmates running the asylum and not the president leading from the white house to capitol hill, it is reverse, and while pelosi may win the battle today, she'll lose the war and will be the general custer of the democratic party as they are led to slaughter in november. the more -- >> i'm not -- >> that raises the question, brad, how valuable is the victory, right. >> they've bet everything, at this moment, bet everything. >> exactly. >> martha: on having a victory. >> that's right. i would say i'm not -- brad i'm not sure you are diminishing the president's hour and all he did to help get it done and at the end of the day, no other president, teddy roosevelt first spoke about this and truman tried it and kennedy tried it and clinton tried this and no one else could get it done and this president and speaker will get it done and i think, they both get a lot of credit. >> martha: the question will be, what is "this". i mean, as early as the middle of last week when bret baier sat

down with the president the president ac nojknowledged he dt know exactly what was in the bill when it came to the special deal. what is "this", what have we got? that this is big question here. -- that is the big question here. >> that they have is a trillion dollars of new spending, amassing tremendous deficits, raising taxes, this is what the american people have got. i -- a mandate that is unconstitutional. >> i think, you haven't read the latest bill. >> 2,000 pages, josh. >> brad, come on. >> martha: give him a moment, brad. >> right. will save $100 billion in the deficit over ten years and will cover people with preexisting conditions, health care companies will not be able to drop people and it will lower premiums, at the end of the day, people will celebrate this, republicans are the do-nothing and want to stand in the way and at the end of the day, americans will see their premiums go down and coverage go up, and that is what they'll celebrate through the program. >> martha: thank you very much, josh and brad, good to have you

both with us. thanks, gentlemen. >> bill: and, geraldine ferraro in a moment about this and a major american company reeling from months of recession, says the health care bill will cost them dearly. if this bill is signed into law how it may affect the businesses and in turn affect you. up in three minutes. imagine. a whole new life for your hair. aveeno nourish plus. active naturals wheat formulas... proven to target and help repair damage in just three washes... for stronger, shinier... hair with life. aveeno nourish plus.

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whip in the house, she said we don't have a, quote, hard 216, right now. so this is a bit of a nail-biter and geraldine ferraro joins me, a former congresswoman from new york and former vice presidential candidate, good to see you. what do you make of the tight margin now. >> it is tight because it has been a very, very difficult boat for a lot -- vote for a lot of members of congress, you are getting a lot of people from the republican party threatening to go after them in november and in this instance what they are doing is getting people to focus on, attention on the bill itself. and, be willing to say, you know, i'm going to do the right thing no matter what it means to me politically and that is very, very tight. but i have to tell you, neither nancy pelosi, nor steny hoyer, nor congressman clyburn, will move the bill and say we have the votes if they didn't have the votes, absolutely would not.

>> martha: i think you are absolutely right and they don't want to be embarrassed and want it go through. >> but, martha, it is more than that. it is more than that. because it is -- what it is, is they know the process, nancy pelosi, you know, she's just not somebody who came into the congress recently. she has a history, her family, and she's got all of this stuff, and the same thing with steny hoyer, he's been around a while, 30 years and they know what is going on and the people in the congress -- >> let's talk history for a moment, because you look at big moments and big bills, domestic bills, okay? talk about social security and passing medicare and all of these things, had bipartisan support. today, the struggle we're talking about, to get the vote through, is from democrat to democrat. to try to get enough democrats. and does it bother you, as one who refers this institution, this process, that on something this large and this transforming, that there is not

one republican vote? >> no. and i'll tell you why. >> martha: why? >> i'll tell you why. because if you go back to when i was in the congress, at that time we were debating how to extend social security. we had debates, precisely the same thing and nobody would vote against it. it was a sacred cow and now, does anybody for one minute believe we don't have a health care system in this country, that is already taking care of a large proportion of the people of the country? like me? medicare is a government health program. and so what we're doing is looking at those people who are -- >> it has serious problems and look at the debt and deficit in the country and they say, yes, we want to have change. to our health care system. the question is, is this the change that we want? >> yes, because, there is a deficit, there are millions of people that this bill will cover to get them health care, and --

>> i have to ask you one last question, do you in your heart of hearts having watched congress try and cut things out of the budget in the past believe that $500 billion is going to be cut from medicare? do you believe that will happen. >> absolutely. you know, it will happen -- i don't know, you know, if you look at whatever the tax things are going, going into effect now, let me also tell you one other thing. is i'm not an economist. on one hand, who knows what will happen, sees are all threats going on, and budget office... >> martha: and they tried to cut 30 billion from medicare and there was a huge brouhaha and everybody said don't touch it. >> they can go back afterwards, right now, the immediate thing, is covering people who don't have insurance, and making sure you get rid of preexisting conditions, and all of those things, that is all good stuff, let's start. >> martha: geraldine, good to talk about, thank you so much, for being with us, this sunday morning. >> bill: and american companies arguing the bill will cost

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>> bill: we are hearing at least one american company, a corporate giant, caterpillar, maker of tractors and other heavy duty equipment, a year ago the president visited a cat plant in illinois and at the time he was selling his economic stimulus plan and health care was part of that, here's what he said. >> president barack obama: this is about figures on the balance sheet and families, many of you probably know. about folks like dan, across the state and across this country. folks who are losing their jobs and health care and their homes.

that were their footholds on the american dream. >> bill: that was 13 months ago and today, caterpillar is urging lawmakers to vote no saying the overhaul will cost shareholders $100 million. caterpillar is worried about losing federal subsidies that pay retirees prescription drug costs and hurts their workers. here to talk about the cost to corporate america, eric boling from the fox business network and they are saying how it would affect -- >> 94,000 employees and they say in the first -- this is important, the first year alone, it will cost them $100 million. now, why is that important? caterpillar, big company, the biggest construction company in the united states. it is relevant. 94,000 employees. walmart, on the other hand, has million employees, mcdonald's, a half a million. so, it is big companies, but they are -- there are bigger companies that will be affect d

in the same way, we talking hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. >> bill: what is in the bill that raises $100 million. >> it will cost between the current employees and their retirees, on their health insurance plan 20% more, than it did in the past and they are increasing health care costs between covering prescription drugs, you know, the write off, for the prescription drug program, $660, per employee. current and past. multiply that by, what, 20 for walmart, how about this? 70% of the american people are employed by small businesses, businesses under 500 people. right? and, every one of those will have to really figure out those businesses will say, do i -- should i put on more employees, if i'm going -- if it will cost me, i don't know, ten, 20, 30% more. >> as it relates to caterpillar, they received tax free subsidies from the federal government, as an incentive to maintain this

prescription drug program. >> part of one of the loopholes -- >> thinking. >> exactly they'll close the loophole and take the tax incentive out, for caterpillar and that is where the increases in costs will arise but it's not just prescription drugs, bill. it is ensuring part-time workers, if you have over 100 employees you have to insure part-time workers. small businesses, hate this, too. big businesses hate it. >> do you think it is a jobs killer? the argument is in illinois the legislation would discourage companies from hiring more workers. do you think so. >> absolutely it is, we'd consider 5% fully employed in america. forget that number. small business, won't hire, at 8%, we may be fully employed and the difference between 5 and the new fully employed 8, 5 million americans. people who may not get work. >> bill: the fine print and everybody is asking us what it will be like tomorrow, if it is signed into law. we'll wait and find out. eric, thank you. catch you later today. >> important day.

>> bill: what is coming up. >> martha: democratic leaders saying when it comes to the health overhaul, history they believe will be on their side. time will tell, of course, but, today, history is definitely unfolding. on capitol hill. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] for dazzling white teeth, give toothpaste the brush off. you need listerine® whitening® vibrant white™ nse. the mouthwash that gets teeth four times whiter than the leading toothpaste. and kills bad breath germs. listerine® whitening vibrant white™.

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