watching, have a wonderful rest of the weekend and wonderful work week and keep watching fox news channel throughout the evening and the rest of the evening and the rest of the week. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> hello everybody. welcome, welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. well, his blockbuster movies include the godfather part three. "oceans 11," 12 and 13, andy garcia's new project is a small budget, but an award winning film that promises to be another big box office hit. he's going to be joining us tonight. also, he's one of the pre-eminent evangelical leaders in the nation, but some muslims said that his comments were intolerant to them. franklin graham is here to

respond. she says the mainstream media in america are openly hostel toward christianity, but she's not even a christian, in fact, an atheist, so we're going to ask s.e. cupp why in the world she cares and thens' a small business owner, he took on organized crime in cleveland, but i wonder, can he take on congress? you're going to meet tomganly tonight. you've got a great show tonight and thank you for joining us here in new york. [applaus [applause] >> this week, we have had a lot of discussions about the arizona immigration bill. it's really maybe bringing up the most unpleasant part of politics, the absolute polarization where one side believes it's completely right and the other side believes it's completely right and they think the other side is completely wrong. this is the all or nothing mindset that's making it very difficult to ever bring out solutions. this particular debate is certainly driven by a lot of emotion and an extraordinary

amount of passion and sometimes the passion is more to win the political battle. rather, than to provide a legitimate and honest solution. now, reality is this, the federal government is failed. it's their job to secure and protect the borders and they've not done it. arizona is frantically trying to survive and protect itself. half a million people have come across the border and now they've got a crime wave where people are shot, they're kidnapped and scared to death. so, arizona has taken action whether you agree with it or not. largely because the feds did not. now let's be real honest here, there is no perfect solution, none, nobody as all the answers. i hear people in congress say what we need is comprehensive reform. and when i hear that, what i realize is, they don't know what they're talking about because when you start talking about comprehensive reform, putting everything in one great big package, it is a recipe for gridlock. you see, i think that congress

could learn a lesson from the character curly played by jack palance in a great movie with billy crystal called "city slickers" listen to this, i think you'll like it. >> now what the secret to life is? >> no, what? >> this. >> your finger? >> one thing, just one thing. >> what's the one thing? >> that's what you've got to figure out. >> and that's it, one thing. oh, not the finger (laughter) >> no, the one thing, now what that is? secure borders. why can't congress figure out their credibility with the american people doesn't even exist. we're talking single digit credibility. as far as the people of the country, left, right, middle, doesn't matter as relates to them actually doing something significant to deal with the immigration issuement you see, i kind of have the view that america was really designed to be sort of like disney world. you know, when disney world, is

one of those places where when you get to the front entrance you've got to have a ticket and they chk your ticket carefully, but once you're in the magic kenning dom you don't have 0 keep having your ticket checked to get on every ride and that's part of what makes it magic. are' free and roam the park and move from one end to the other and you can schahop, you can go shows, pray your kids get tired sooner because you're worn out. america is like that. we check you coming in and make sure you belong here, but once you're here, you're free to move and you don't have to run hiding all the time. a good immigration program means that people can live out in the open. they can enjoy the best of what this country all about, freedom, liberty, that's what we're about. i guess i could say, this ain't kansas, toto, but congress, you're killing the magic kingdom because you're not taking care

of your business at the gate. do your business, let the states do what they do, quit messing it up. take care of one thing, one thing, forget comprehensive, take care of one thing, secure the borders and then let the people inside these borders live in the magic kingdom that we love and call america. that's my view and i welcome yours. i'd love to hear what it is. you can e-mail me by going to mike huckabee.com and click on the fox news feedback section. there's a little area, feedback, i'll read those, i promise i will. he was nominated for academy award in godfather poart 3, anda routeless casino owner in "oceans 11" and "city island".

>> being saturday night and all, and vivian is here, why don't we have a big home cooked dinner. >> sure, like i do every saturday night. >> yeah, but like something special, like a real special occasion, something special, something nice. >> balloons or something. >> no, i don't want balloons or something. >> i want something nice. >> when don't i make something nice? >> make it nicer? >> make it yourself! great communicator! >> he is a great communicator and joining us from los angeles actor andy garcia. welcome, what a pleasure and honor to have you with us today. [applause] >> thanks for having me. >> mike: i want us to talk about your new hit movie, but before that, one of the things i think that has made you endeared to so many people, your own personal story, your family came to this country from havana, you were five years old when you escaped. for you immigration is a very personal thing and this country has been good for you and i know you know the meaning of freeman

like few people do. >> that is correct. i was blessed to get the opportunity to pursue my dreams freely here in america without any repression or repercussions of what my thoughts might be or which was totally contrary to what was going on in cuba at the time and still is going on in cuba today. >> you have a heart for much of the oppression that's still there. there are people who are political prisoners, people who don't end up getting to enjoy the freedom that all of us here in the country do. do you still have family that are this and do you have any communication with them? >> yeah, i have a very distant aunt that's still there on the mother's side, our family was very small. we all left in the early '60s, we left two and a half years after the revolution so we saw the entire transition into sort of totalitarian, supposedly marxist leninist state, but it was more like a state. i have people there and follow

the situation in cuba and i follow the current bloggers there, and i'm obviously involved in and very concerned about what's going on and with the prisoners of conscience in cuba and the overall necessity of having absolute pluralism and freedom in cuba. so it's something i'm very, very engaged in. >> last week i had the daughter of fidel castro on the show and it was a fascinating discussion with her and obviously, having come through what she did. but she lives here in the united states now, a lovely human being, loves freedom, loves the liberty that she has and wishes that it were so for all of those fellow cubans who are still there and we talk about the ladies in white, that remarkably courageous group of people who are willing to to show their solidarity with folks oppressed there and i know your heart goes out to the people who don't yet enjoy the freedom that you do and that also fidel castro's does. >> yeah, absolutely. the ladies in white is a group

that i've been following for quite some time. i've narrate add documentary about them and we organized a march not only in south florida that gloria and emilio he is staffen organized, but one weeks ago to bring attention to the situation and the struggles to free their loved ones who are the prisoners of conscience and also they've been repressed and beaten up by the castro's government in recent weeks. it's an ongoing struggle, but i think the internet will change that country and it is changing the country because it's finally the world is hip to what's, what's going on in cuba. they can't control the information anymore. >> mike: all right, we've got to talk about a brand new movie project you've got called "city island." . it was filmed here in new york and you produced the movie. is that something you enjoy something, do you like producing being on both ends of the business of the movie. >> i enjoy film making

tremendously not only on camera, but behind the scenes and produced the films and you produce out of necessity and find a piece of material that you really enjoy and you just want to help it get pushed uphill and you join in on the team and in this case, the writer, director came to me about playing the part and asked me if i would produce the movie with him and i was so enamoured by the material and i signed up immediately. >> mike: well, we're going to talk about the movie, "city island" with andy garcia when we come back. great movie, see it this week and don't go away, andy garcia is still with us when we return from the break. we'll be right back. [applause]. for strong bones, i take calcium. but my doctor told me that most calcium supplements...

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your real-life daughter playing your daughter in the movie. how was that playing the role of her father when you are her father. >> no, as actors, we're always trying to make a connection to our personal life. now, with the characters we play and find parallels in our life that can feed into it. in this case, i was not only, you know, not only was she a great colleague and this is the third piem we've worked together as an acting, you know, in films. the fact that we're father and daughter you know, only enhanced that process. so, i was honored to work with her. she's a terrific actress and i'm very proud of her. >> mike: one of the things about the movie that's gotten attention is, it was done by hollywood standards, anyway, with a fairly reasonable budget. hollywood films tend to have these extraordinary budgets almost as if congress has decide today finance them with somebody else's money, but in this case, it was again, for hollywood standards, a low budget, but critical acclaim and i think a lot of people are saying, you don't have to spend, you know,

half billion dollars to make a film. was that an intentional decision on your part to say, let's have a great film that has acting in it that has a plot? >> yeah, well, you know, the most difficult thing is to find great material, you know? once you have the material if you can afford the cameras, we were using the same camera as avatar, you won't have avatar that's 3-d, but as any big budgeted film. it's always about content, this is a human comedy, a behavioral piece, you don't need a tremendous amount of money to make the film, but you know, the reality is that it's ultimately it's about the execution and content, you know, what's on the page and i knew this material would attract great actors, we have jewel &a marge least and elliott mortimer and i knew that was going to happen because of the quality of the material. from that point of view i need

we'd make a terrific film. the question raising enough money to shoot the film and we shot that in 27 days for 6 million dollars, still a lot of money, but my hollywood standards not a lot. >> it takes us 27 days to do the show, but it's not-- it's because i keep messing it up and one of the days we'll get it right. one of the things that intrigued me, andy, a different andy garcia i saw on camera. your role was a vulnerable one. you were not the self-assured confident guy. terry benedict we've gotten used to in the "oceans 11," 12, 13, series. you weren't the role of the mobster in the godfather. this was the vulnerable side of andy garcia. so who is the real andy garcia, is he the tough guy or that vulnerable guy that we see in "city island"? >> you know, my training and duty as an actor is bring everything, all of my experiences and every part of me that's appropriate to a part, to

a part. so i would say that everything i've ever done as an actor has all of me, you know, different volumes of parts of me, but it's really ultimately you have to find that personal connection to the character, so, i would say i'm both terry benedict and vince rizzo. >> well, you were terrific in this film called "city island." . one last question did you grow the beard waiting on us to get started today? >> this beard is 27 days old, so, yes, i did. it's for a film i'm doing a period piece, a mexican revolutionary piece. >> mike: andy, thank you very much for being with us. >> andy garcia, the film is called, "city island", i hope you'll have a chance to enjoy it. coming up next, franklin graham has been very much in the news lately and i'm not sure that all of it he wants to be. we'll find out what in the world is going on with the wonderful christian leader who is by the way the son of famed evangelist

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[applause] . >> mike: (applause) >> this coming thursday, marks the national day of prayer, observed in our country for nearly 60 years. he's not invited to the pentagon to observe the day and organizers in congress where he's scheduled to attend, feeling pressure by groups to disinvite him because of things he said about the muslim faith. joining us is franklin graham, a pleasure having you here. i've decided you are just a magnet for trouble, it seems to follow you. first, the district court in wisconsin declared the national

day of prayer unconstitutional. >> that's right. >> mike: and then disinvited for participating in a pentagon ceremony because of something you said. before i get into this. i want to read the statement. this is from this group that protested and here is what it says. a congressional prayer observance should reflect the west best of our nation's ideals and speaker such as franklin graham reflect a message of religious intolerance rather than differing faith in a shared support of our nation's founding principles. your father and every other christian minister i know has been saying for 240 years of america. >> you know, governor, i believe that jesus christ is the way the truth and the life. i don't believe there's any other way to god except through christ because it's jesus christ that took our sins and he died on the cross and shed his blood on the cross and buried for our sins, but god raised him to life and jesus christ came to life

for the sinners, and franklin graham is a sinner and gave his life for you, for me and every person in this country around the world and if we would just by faith believe in the name of the lord jesus christ, god would forgive our sins and our nation today is in trouble. we're so far from what our founding fathers gave us and it's kind of sad to see it, but yet, god told us in his skip tours what was going to happen and my father was with me last week, he said to tell you hello, watches you every week. and if i can do a plug for his book, it's billy graham, "storm warnings" and this is the warnings that god is giving us right now from heaven. he's taken revelations and he's dissected the four horsemen of the apocalypse. i want you to have it. >> mike: i'm honored. >> we're getting close to this time. >> mike: i think we may be

there. i'm delighted to have anything that your dad's name is on. i think he's going to be a really great representative of faith for a long time. were you personally shocked when you got disinvited to be a part of a day that you yourself are chairman of? >> no, because i was invited-- i have a son in afghanistan, this is his fourth tour and i was invited by the chaplains of his division to come over at easter and spend the entire easter week and it was all his general had approved it, it got stopped somewhere in the pentagon. and then for the national day of prayer who has always been invited to the pentagon, and for them to disinvite the national day of prayer because i'm involved, i wasn't that, that surprised because i saw what they did in afghanistan in not allowing me to speak to the troops in battle, but you know, they'll take cheerleaders like the dallas cowboy cheerleaders and if you want to talk about something that's offensive to muslims is to have women

scantily dressed, shaking and wiggling everything. this is offensive to the muslims. the fact that i believe that jesus christ is the way the truth and life and i don't believe anybody can get to heaven through muhammad, the muslims are okay with that because they disagree with them. >> mike: they don't think you're going to make it either. so, i get that, that's the whole point. if faith means everything, it doesn't mean anything. people sometimes think because i'm a believer i'm supposed to oh, well, everybody is equally the same. the point is religion by its nature tends to be divisive, doesn't have to be angry and bitter and cut people's heads off, but it's by its nature says, i believe this and it's somewhat within a system. >> and as a christian i want everyone to know god's love. and that's what god has called me to do. to share his love with the world that doesn't know love. in islam, there isn't any hope for salvation, unless you die as a martyr in some kind of holy war conflict and then that's

your guarantee to get to heaven, but i serve a god who i don't have to die for him, he died for me. he gave his life for my sins and all i have to do is accept it by faith and that's the beautiful thing about what jesus christ has done. he paid the debt and i can be free simply by faith. and everyone who's watching if they're willing to accept it by faith. god will forgive them and heal their hearts, but the national day of prayer, you know, aim going to be in washington and i'm going to pray even if they won't let me speak i'm going to pray for the pentagon, pray for our commanders and we've got wonderful men and women in the u.s. military and they're in battle fighting for my freedom. >> mike: yeah. >> aim going to pray for them and they may not let me attend the service at the pentagon, but that's fot going to stop me from going to the pentagon and still go and i'm going to pray. >> mike: people used to say i believe in prayer in schools and every time i took an algebra test i prayed my heart outment

nobody can stop me from doing that. that's the reality nobody can stop us from praying, but the court has tried to stop the national day of prayer. i want to say to his credit, president obama and his administration has intervened and they are battling this in court. i know a lot of people get upset with president obama for many things, but when he does something that we agree with we certainly give him credit. >> he did the right thing and thank him for it. when he came last week to visit my father, i met him at thetor and first thing i said to him was mr. president, thank you for appealing the ruling. i appreciate that you've done the right thing. it is the right thing and we should commend him for that. >> mike: we should and we'll be back with reverend graham in a moment. and we'll be joined by s.e. cupp, what is the attitude towards people of faith in this country. you'll want to stay with us as franklin graham is joined by s.e. cupp, that's next. hey -- who's our best presentatioguy? carl.

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>> from america's news headquarters i'm juliet huddy. the latest now on yesterday's failed car bombing in new york's times square. police say they may have videotape of a possible suspect changing clothes in an alley. a newly released video shows the s.u.v. where the bomb materials were discovered entering times square. a vendor noticed smoke in the parked vehicle and alerted police and police say the explosive device contained this clock, propane tanks and what may have been fertilizer. and president obama calling the massive ill slick in the gulf of mexico an unprecedented disaster. mr. obama saying it could take many days it stop the underwater leak. and an estimated 210,000 gallons of crude leaking into the gulf every day, now just nine miles off the louisiana coast. i'm juliet huddy. now back to huckabee. >> if you'd like to comment op tonight's show, e-mail us at

huck mail@foxnews.com. >> mike: our next guest says she doesn't necessarily believe in god, but defend the rights of those who do. she's the author of "losing our religion" the media's attack on christianity, se cupp. >> hi, nice to be here. >> mike: i wrote the forward for your back. >> thank you. >> mike: thank you for writing it. i think your perspective, you're not a believer like franklin and me. >> right. >> mike: we openly talk about our faith. one day i hope you will. >> i know, i know. >> mike: i'm working on you. >> i appreciate that. >> mike: i'm going to keep working on. >> okay. >> mike: why did you think it was important to write this book from the perspective of a person who is not a believer. >> i am an an atheist, but i'm not a militant atheist, i defend christianity in my writing. i'm getting a master in religious studies, but i'm sick and tired of the irresponsibility of the press. it's hostile toward 80% of the

country on a regular basis in your favorite newspaper, magazine, you know, cable news show, radio show and the blogs sphere, they're openly attacking christian america, christian values, christian political candidates as you're well aware. >> mike: i've never experienced anything like that. >> you haven't? that's so weird. >> mike: read the book i'll point out examples where it did actually happen to you (laughter) >> franklin, se's perspective obviously is different than ours. >> sure. >> mike: do you find that this is a hostility specifically toward christianity that does not exist toward buddhism or toward islam? >> absolutely, and if you just go back 40 years of the entertainment industry, look how many times preachers on television are looked at as charlatans or run off with somebody's wife and there are men who do not live the way they preach and that's the way they've been portrayed and it's constant in the media or the entertainment industry and

that's been going on for a long time and listen, it's going to get worse. it's not going to get better. i really believe that one day for myself to believe what i believe, that jesus christ is the way to truth and life that i will be persecuted for that speech because it will be frame as hate speech. >> mike: se, we know the what, tell me the why. why are we in the breakdown of respect even if people disagree, why have we lost the respect we once had for people who are christians? >> the civility. it's become ugly. i think there's a binary thing going on. i think the liberal media thinks if they can paint christians as crazy fanatics that it's a quick step to painting conservatives as crazy fanatics and, too, i think it's ideological. i think liberalism is very uncomfortable with a fixed value system like christianity. with a list of do's and don'ts with an inherent moral judgment.

liberalism lives in a world of moral relativism and i think that's where they want to remain and i think they think if they can eradicate christianity to the far corners of fringes of this country, then they've won. but if 80% and i'm shocked in fact that christian america isn't as angry as i am about this. >> mike: why, why aren't christians angry and should they be angry or should they be broken-hearted franklin, and say maybe we've not been the salt and the light we need to be as believers to show a better way? >> i don't think we should be angry, but i think we should live what the bible teaches us to live and i think we should speak out and exercise those religious freedoms that we so enjoy in this country and if we don't exercise it we're going to lose it. >> mike: okay. let's talk then about the hostility we know and we've seen this specific application in franklin's case. >> right. >> mike: i told him he's a magnet for trouble. >> he is a trouble-maker.

>> mike: but it isn't because, se, franklin represents a very specific christian faith, it's not apoll apologetic. >> oh, jesus fits in with everybody. >> right. >> mike: but the christian faith by its nature calls people to a point of decision, calls people to say you're either here or here, is that what bothers. >> yeah, religion, especially i would imagine christianity, requires intolerance in fact. it requires, you guys were talking about this earlier, it requires you to say i believe in this and not this, that this way is better than this way. >> mike: i don't see that as intolerance, i see that as definitive faith. i don't see-- intolerant would be i'm going to smash you, not going to believe what you you believe. i'd like you to believe what-- >> you think your way is the best way, it's the right way and that's what i mean by intolerance and the idea that we should somehow water down the faith so we all get to this

common point is a really gross misunderstanding of the way faith actually works. and it's almost this sort of kumbayah, liberal secularist push that i think is really designed to water down faith entirely so that it no longer looks like the kind of faith that we've had for the last 2000, 5,000 years. >> mike: franklin, you have respect for people of other faiths, you don't agree with them or embrace the faith, but i've never seen you go out there and wave a stick and say you're going to tear down a mosque. >> no, and i love people of other favorites, i really do and as i said earlier i want them to know what i know, i want them to have the same peace that i have. that their sins can be for given and it's only through christ and christ alone because he's the only one in history to pay the dead of sin. muhammad didn't take your sins and die for you, buddha didn't take your sins and die for you. only one person in history has made that claim, that's jesus christ. and the beauty is by faith you don't have to work for it, you don't have to sleep on nails or

walk across fiery coals, it's by faith and that's what i want people to know. >> mike: franklin, thank you very much. and se, thanks. give my kindest regards to our father and i hope that all of you will remember that thursday is the national day of prayer and you don't need permission from congress to get on your knees and pray. you can do it without their permission. the fact is you can do it without their knowledge and i'm pretty sure they won't know. i hope you'll remember the national day of prayer, it's chairman franklin graham, thank you very much. [applause] >> when we come back, a most interesting conversation with a man who helped bring down the entire mob in cleveland, ohio. now, he wants to run for congress. has he taken on something even bigger than challenging the mob? we'll talk to tom ganling next and we'll find out. [applause] [ male announcer ] bobby sincir. [ bobby ] trugreen did it again!

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(applaus (applause) >> each weekday listen to news and commentary on the huckabee report, the fastest new radio feature in the past decade and heard on 585 of the very best radio stations in the nation. if you want to find the one near you or listen to past comment y commentari commentaries, go to mike huckabee.com and click on the huckabee reportment my next guest faced death, death threats from the mob after what he thought was just a simple business deal that turned out to be a chilling extortion plot against it. well, he fought back and he beat

them and now he wants it take on the big spenders in congress. that may be the biggest challenge of all. please welcome tom ganly. welcome. >> thank you governor, thank you very much. [applause] >> what intrigues me about your story is you're just minding your business, a guy comes into your dealership and says, i think there's an oldsmobile dealership that would be for sale. you get out, talk to the people and ultimately the deal comes about and then what happens? >> well, then shortly thereafter, i received an invoice in the mail for a half a million dollars. and frankly, governor, i thought it was a joke. and shortly thereafter, that gentleman called and asked if he could pick up a check. >> mike: what was the half million for. >> supposedly because he suggested that i call this gentleman to buy his oldsmobile store. >> mike: a finders' fee? >> he was not a broker or an agent or anything, he was in my office on different business and suggested i call this gentleman. >> mike: half a million dollars

for this little tip. >> yes. >> mike: what did you say, forget that? >> well, i laughed and said it was available, but it was monopoly money because i thought it was pretty funny. well, with that he said, i'm not joking, and if i don't pick up a check today, you're going to experience the horror of your life. and i said, i don't think so. and shortly thereafter, about a week later, a gentleman walked into my office without knocking, just walked in and had a small piece of paper in his hand and he says did you recognize this name. i said yes, i do. he said, well, he's gone to the family and he's made a request and it's been granted and you will be killed in the next 24 hours, have a good day. and he left. and i sat there stunned, governor, for a short time and then realized that the only way to handle this would be to call the fbi. so i called the fbi, they immediately came out, they sat and chatted with me and said,

don't worry, this is ultimately going to be about money. i said no, you don't understand it's not about money. this is-- they said, no, it will be about money and they asked permission to put in hidden cameras and microphones and to monitor my phones, commonly called bugging phones, all of my business phones, home phones, everything and shortly thereafter the same person that brought forth this threat came back into my office and said, you know, i don't like you, but i'm going to help you, but it's going to cost you money and i said, oh, really? and he said, yes. it's going to cost you x amount of dollars and i expect to pick it up tomorrow or i'm not going to help you. and i said i don't have the money right now, which is what the fbi asked me to say, and always say that, to buy time and he said, i'll be back tomorrow so he left and i found out later that of course the fbi was following him, also, but they came in and said, not to worry,

we're going to provide the money we want to videotape him taking the money and so forth. so, he came back, and we paid him the money. i paid him the money. and-- actually i. >> mike: actually i did, i'm a taxpayer and i took care of that for you. i'm helping you out, tom. >> there's a great ending to the story, but when they all went to prison, the fbi sued them civilly and got the money back, i thought it was terrific. >> mike: maybe ought to get some of those guys to run for congress, too. and this had to be the most scary thing in the world. how long did this go on, this process. >> governor, it went on for two years, where i wore wires, microphones, bullet-proof vest and for two years, i worked in conjunction with the fbi to continue to videotape them at a fairly significant risk to my family. i have four children and they came into play in this, where they decided that they could threaten my children and in fact, one of the characters actually went to an elementary

school and observed my son, called me and said if you think we're kidding he has corduroy pants on and a yellow shirt. if you ask him tonight. so when ken came home, i-- how was school. he said it was fine and i had to prompt him a little bit and finally he said, oh, yes, dad a friend of yours played kick ball with us, a guy named joe and of course, that was a new mafia member that interjected himself into this and the threats escalated from there. >> mike: tom, unbelievable. you know what, we're going to bring one of those fbi agents that worked with you during this process of almost two years, bring him on. if you think this story is just too bizarre to be true, we're going to show you it actually happened. former fbi agent bob freedman is going to be joining tom ganley and me next when we come back. the amazing part of this story right after this. [applause] ♪

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[applause] (applaus (applause) >> we are back with tom ganley and joining us now, former federal agent, bob freedman, who worked directly with bob during the mob stipulating. welcome, i want to ask you something, in your 27 year career with the fbi. how many people did you deal with like tom? >> one. >> tom ganley. >> he's the only one like that. >> what do you mean? >> normally you're dealing with informants, people who are actually involved in these crimes and you're trying to get them to tell you what's going on, help them help you defeat these people and along comes tom ganley and volunteers to help us and it's just like a miracle that you can deal with somebody like him. who is willing to do that, willing to put himself in danger

and his family in danger. >> he was really in danger, wasn't he? >> there's no doubt about it he was in danger. >> a million dollar contract. >> million dollar contract. the mob says somebody gets the guy and a million bucks for them. >> him and his family. not only him and his wife-- >> he knew full well he was taking risks. >> he knew from day one he was. obviously you don't have that happen often. did you think it would take two years to get this all done? >> well, when we started, we figured it would take that long, because-- >> okay, did you tell him that? >> no. >> i didn't think so. i didn't think so. would you have done it had you known it was going to draw out? >> yes, i would, governor, it was the right thing to do. it was the only thing to do. >> mike: do you realize you have no business in congress. i mean-- >> we won't fit in up there. >> no, i tell you i actually think trois endeared me when i heard the story, my gosh, here is a person who put it on the line.

your family's very safety. one of the things that intrigued me during this time. fbi agents had live at tom's house. >> lived at his house, wherever he went and children went and normally that's the purview of the united states marshal service, but we had grown to admire this man so much, we weren't going to let anybody protect him, but ourselves. >> mike: and a lot of the story we won't get to. some of your colleagues at fbi talk openly about this experience and what an amazing man of courage tom was during this entire ordeal that happened. tom, i want to ask you about your wife and your kids. did they ever come to you and say, hey, this is enough? we've done our duty? >> governor, i'm very proud of them. they recognizance recognized this was very serious. and they were frightened, but they stood, stood tall with me and saw it to the conclusion. it was, i'm just very proud of them. they're great children, they all

live real close to me now that they're married and have-- i have eight grandchildren and they're just terrific young people that i'm very, very proud of. they have a great deal of courage and conviction. >> mike: and how many of the mob did you finally bring down, bob. >> there was over 20. >> mike: over 20, basically eliminated the mob as it was in cleveland at the time. >> completely eliminated. >> mike: the question, why on earth do you want to go to congress? >> governor, thank you for the question, because i think i can make a difference. if i didn't back down to the mafia in threatening my entire family i'm certainly not going to back down to those special interests and lobbyists and everyone else. i know how to be my own man and i will do that in congress and i think i can help make a difference and take back our country. >> mike: you know, i don't have any doubt about that. i mean, if you can take on the mob, you can take on the whole bunch of them. tom ganley. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: what an amazing story and bob, thank you. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: for being here to

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