tv Glenn Beck FOX News October 2, 2010 9:00pm-10:00pm EDT
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is america done? have we finished our job? have we invented what we were supposed to invent? have we freed who we were supposed to free? have we done all the things that we were supposed to? as you know, if you watch this program, 40 day and 40 night challenge, blueprint for national survivor. i don't know if you know much about thomas jefferson but he was into codes, puzzles. i don't know if this was a code or a puzzle bull they left bread crumbs all over the place. they knew we'd fail. jefferson and adams wrote back and forth in 1920s. they said you know this is going to fail. it's going to fail. jefferson said yes, yes. but the people will figure it out. and they'll remember what we were trying to do and they'll do it right this time. i don't know if this is a code, but these are hit words at the end of the declaration of independence. with the firm reliance. on the protection of divine
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providence, we mutually pledge our lives, fortunes and sacred honor. four-step program i've asked you to do. 40 days, 40 nights. i have firm reliance on the protection of divine providence. because god was instrumental in putting this country together, and remember, we changed the world. we changed the world. it's not a coincidence that all of a sudden, you know, everybody was by candlelight, and america came around. boom, everything changed. the world had been the same forever. america came along. and man's imagination, the whole world changed because of the ideas of our founders. now, that's pretty intense. so was it just about the lightbulb and the steam engine and the gasoline engine and television and radio and all that stuff?
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was that what it was? was it just about freeing people. stopping communism? stopping hitler? is that what it was? i have to tell you something in the grand scheme of things when we all die, we're going to get to the other side and say wow! none of that was important. we cannot be the generation that answers this question slaves, that answers this question somebody who just doesn't want to work very hard. somebody who just doesn't have a dream. group of people that had it once and lost it. and they're fine being mediocre. we cannot be the generation that answers that. and the answer to this one is america done is no! no! but everywhere you look, you're being told we're done. everything. the government. can't do it without us. can't do it alone. you need a hand-out, not a hand-up. that's a lie. that's a lie.
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once rerealize who we are and that it came together with god and firm reliance on the protection of god, then you'll know. we are just getting started. we are facing something i think you will look back on in 500 years from now and it will be either the beginning of the dark ages, or something akin to the industrial revolution. but things are changing and they'll change on a global scale. when anything changes that dramatically, there will be tough times. we have tough times coming. when has that stopped us? have you seen the rocky mountains? i got news for you. i've been at the missouri river i would be like i'm not crossing the river. rocky mountains i would have never made it past denver. i would have looked at it and said you have to be kidding me. what if it sucks on the other
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side? i wouldn't have made it. but americans crossed it. and when we ran out of land we went to the moon. so are we going to get stuck here? we're not. i want you to understand, there's a report out. called "global trends. a transformed world." i told you about it earlier in week. here it is. this is what it will look like 2025, global landscape. this is a government report. this is what the government says the world is going to look like in 2025. now, we can change the world. or we can allow the world to change us. the world is about to be transformed. and there are people involved. how many times do people have to say we'll fundamentally transform america before it
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sinks in that they really are? this report discusses what they expect by 2025. like the unprecedented transfer of wealth, roughly from west to east now underway. it's in this report. do not take my word for anything. read this report. it's available online. we'll make it available at glennbeck.com and fo foxnews.com. they say it will continue in the foreseeable future. another report, wealth today is moving not just from west to east but concentrating under more state control. in the wake of the 2008 global financial crisis, the state's role in the economy, may be gaining more appeal throughout the world. understand what that means. that means the model of china is what these guys are saying everybody is cool with. this is what is to come. i'm not cool with that. are you? then there's this.
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there will be a roll back of privatization and resurgence of the state-owned enterprises. in the early 1990s, many economists predicted that these enterprises, state-owned would be a relic of the 20th century. they were wrong. state own enterprise serve as secondary function in pressure valve. they can also act as vehicles for increased political control. increased political control. just what every american has dreamt about. then there was this statement. in terms of size, speed and directional flow. transfer of global wealth and economic power now underway roughly from west to east is without precedent in mod earn history -- modern history. this isn't a spooky star chamber marxist in the basement conspiracy. this is the government's report. i have to tell you something.
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it is one way to legitimately look at the world. you could look at the world and say yes, all of this is going to happen. so we'll take our lumps or carve out a little place. that's not what america does. we have don't carve out a little niche for us. who are we? are we leaders or are we followers? look, the world is going to change. we're going to talk about this in a second with some amazing guests. the world is going to change. you are not going to compete -- you're never going to have g.m., ford, chrysler, all of these things making cars with people making $85 an hour, when you can have chinese make the same cars for what? $1.50 a day? you can't compete that way. you can't get into protectionism. what do you do? you cower in the corner, beg for scraps, elect people to just control it because they'll get theirs, or you
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decide who you are, and that america is not done. you put your heads together, with the greatest minds. you put your arms together with the greatest might. and i mean industrial might. that the world has ever seen. don't take my word for any of it. check this out for yourself. do your own research. i get ton of e-mail calling me liar for all kind of things. i told you, you know, people wanted more information about the big progressive rally on the mall. and you should go to the communist party usa website. click on the young communist league tab and get all the details. i got hate mail on tha how can you write an e-mail to me saying that i'll making things up when all you had to do, it would have taken you less time to go to communist party usa and click on the tab and see everything i said. i can't make this stuff up and stay on the air.
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do your own research. go there yourself. democrats, the proof is right in front of your eyes. there are people that will have us begging for scraps. is that who you are? so, a global trend toward redistribution and the collapse of our constitution. do we have to go there? is that where we are going? no, not if you study the constitution for yourself. if you read the federalist papers, the words of the founders, you know what it stands for and you share it with others. you teach it to your children. once you teach it to the children, your children are watching you right now. do you know that? your children are watching you. everything you do, you may not have ever been passionate about anything before. you may never ever have known that much about the country, but you do now. and your children are seeing you and the way you're reacting to things. if you are one of the people that is just watching tv and going "damn right" and you don't do anything about it. it sucks to be your children. because they will not be prepared for the new world
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that is coming. democrats, republicans, independents. know the truth. then in november, get to the polls. and look for the people who say we are americans and we are not done. we are the most charitable people in the world. and we're the people that keep changing the world over and over and over again. when the world is in trouble, it is the americans that come running in. we run in to burning buildings. not out of them. we run into burning buildings. we do not sit around and say, "the building is on fire. what should we do?" we run into them. and we put the fire out. now what are we going to do? please. start here. take the 40-day challenge. have firm reliance on the protection of divine providence. there is so much going on in our world. they have a head start on us. quite honestly, we needy vine
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intervention. i will tell you this. the world is changing. there is something big coming. it is going to be as big as the industrial revolution. we can either find ourselves in the dust bin of history, or we can take the words of thomas jefferson. to heart. and realize in 1820, he was writing about us. don't worry, john. they'll figure it out. you were right. we can accomplish anything. we can work with change. it's the amendment part of the constitution. change it. the government will say no. we face it head on. i will show you in a second what's coming and then i'll introduce you to people who are very, very hopeful about the future. do we have time now?
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can we do it now? joining me first, via satellite, from washington is john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and author of "surrender is not an option." also with me, is stuart varney. and daniel hamon, author of "new road to serfdom." first, john, i can't believe you're not with us today because i'm here with two brits. we're talking about america. help me john, help me. let me start with you first. i want to talk about -- first, did i get it wrong in the monologue that there are people that say china is going to be the model, it is going to be state-controlled, you know, capitalism. america is going to be a second rate nation and we have to globalize our government. am i wrong on that? >> no, there are people who say that.
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many of them were involved in writing this report by the national intelligence council you refer to. i have to say to start off, we didn't need our government to write this report. we could have asked the harvard faculty to write it and they would have come up with pretty much the same thing. you wonder why our intelligence agencies lack resources, it's because they're speculating about 2025. and another, absolutely critical point. the country in the world about which our intelligence agencies know the least, is america. >> glenn: i think that's government for the whole. they don't know who is in charge. >> i'd go along with that. this report is written as if america is a spectator, as if our decision have already been made. by the way, all of them congenial to the obama administration. that is the place we ought to start from, because that is the place we ought to reject. >> glenn: okay. let me go to you, stuart.
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we had a talk in the greenroom. two things to talk about, first, the path that we are on is to create that world. but we are the master of our own destiny. we choose every step of the way. it doesn't have to be that way, but would you agree with me we're on the path of being a second-tier nation maybe at best? >> the world view of the obama administration and of the president, himself, is embedded in that report. looking an it the america that we have now, that he has partly out to create with the policies of the last 18 months. he's projecting that into the future and the world. and it's a future view, which i personally reject and i think we will reverse. no question, that report encapsules obama's view of the world now and in the future. it is, however, reversible. >> glenn: daniel, there are
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those people, the forces here in america that are anti-colonialist. the president is believed by some, i'm one of those, to be an anti-colonialist. you know, our wealth was ill-gotten, et cetera, et cetera. so, let's help the other nations, let's, you know, keep the oppressor down and help the oppressed. personally, i think it's happening in your country as well. the whole west is on the ropes. if we don't have a fundamental transformation of yes, we can, we're going to live in a world of no you won't. disagree? >> well, the night he was elected, your president made a very touching speech in which he said the strength of this country is not in force of arms but in its moral example. and i wish he would occasionally apply that. the great thing that made this country wealthy and free and successful was what you
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were talking about, about jefferson's personal power, free enterprise. the great empire of asia we're talking about in the report now, they were the ones that became centralized, the genius of the western general and united states was disbursal and distribution of power. you can see where it's going. if you go in the opposite direction now, if you go down this road toward more centralization, federal czars, higher taxes, more regulation you are repeating the errors that the qing made hundreds of years ago. is it any wonder the wealth will shift where the kingdom is? >> glenn: you know all about the ngos and everything else and that -- they're laying framework. how close are we to having framework that you just don't
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reverse? with the financial regulation and everything else. i don't think anything is necessarily imminent, but we are at the -- aren't we at the edge here? don't do much more. lay more framework without having serious ramifications. that you can't reverse. >> i don't think there is any doubt we need a serious debate in this country about what we think of the concept of global governance. our friends in europe are already well along that road and having surrendered a lot of their own national sovereignty to the european union in brussels. they're happy about the project of surrendering a little of ours to transnational authorities as well. >> glenn: i want to take a break and i want to go back here to our own sovereignty. and global government, and global governance. we'll do that next. [ applause ]
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[ applause ] >> glenn: america, here is the fundamental choice. the fundamental choice is america is done and it will never be the same and it will never come back and the jobs aren't going to come back and everything else. we'll just take the table scraps and it will be a global government. or we're going to stop worrying about getting our ass kick and start kicking some ass. and i mean that in our own butts. let's kick our own butts. let's start inventing. let's start moving forward. before we go there, we have to look at the reality of the global governance regulation and framework that's being led.
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ambassador john bolton is here with us. stuart varney, and from the e.u. in england, it's bloody daniel hanon. welcome. stuart, you go ahead. bring it on, brother. do you disagree with me with there are powerful forces that want global governance? >> no, i don't disagree with you at all. i think what you're missing and was not brought out yet, is there is something going on in america, something is happening that's rejecting global governance, something all the time. there is something happening. i can feel it. i have lived in america for 38 years. i feel something going on. i think something will happen big in four-and-a-half weeks' time in november. that will be a pivotal point. if you ask me about global governance, fair question. i'm in the realm of finance, i follow money. that's what i do. some degree of global
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governance, i have to tell you and regretfully to tell you. some degree of global governance is inevitable. when you talk money. >> glenn: this drives me crazy. "the tea party want no government whatsoever." of course, you just want the limited, the least amount of government. >> yes. >> glenn: just enough government to make sure the wheels spin. that's it. you protect and punish, protect the good guys and punish the bad guys. >> yes. there must be some degree of global rule-making. where the big banks are concerned, whether trading of commodities is concerned. some degree of rule-making. you are seeing it right now. heaven forbid it becomes rigid and stifles originality in the world. >> glenn: daniel? >> you say it sounds like forces at work. it sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it isn't. the first president of the e.u., first press conference
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he said this is the year of global governance, copenhagen and moving toward globalization of the planet. here is the problem. you have can't do it and be democratic. no one has invented a supra national system that's democratic. you are giving up what you fought for in the first place. >> glenn: right. ambassador, is that not exactly what they say in that report? they say in that report that you're just, you're going to give up your sovereignty. you are going to do it this way. and they have -- it's not a conspiracy. you're right. people "global governance, it's a conspiracy." read their words. they're clear. are they not, ambassador? >> they are. no doubt about it. we are supposed to get used to it. for most americans it sounds abstract but it's concrete decisions. do we want decisions about our future made in our democratic
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constitutional system, or do we want them made in bodies and daniel organizations and negotiation that our citizens have no visibility over or no control over? so it really goes right to how people see government in their own lives. >> glenn: let me go to one more thing and then we'll go to a happy place. that is it. stuart, you are an econ guy. you explain to me if it's not redistribution of wealth, you explain to me what this government has done to our oil industry. tapping the wells. stopping drilling. they're up in alaska. i talked to the head of the pipeline. he says the pipeline is going to be shut down. without any hesitation. pipeline will be shut down. >> yep. >> glenn: you have then the government giving loans to brazil and mexico and mexico to drill in the same place that we say is too dangerous to drill. this is redistributing our
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wealth. >> direct contradiction of america's best self-interest. the obama administration is going against our self interest. it's going against, suppressing the oil industry. it is not allowing us to go and get the resources which are ours in our territory. we're banned from going after them. meanwhile, we subsidize other countries to go after their same resources on their territory. we give them loans. loans to brazil to go out and drill in deep water. yet we ban it in our own territory. that is inexplicable unless you agree with the premise that some how or other this president is doing down america and its interest. >> glenn: do you agree with that? >> there is a reason for that. this man is very much part of the global warming, the environmentalist movement. very much part of that. he believes oil is fundamentally evil, with what
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environmentalists believe. you could say that -- >> glenn: why is that funny? >> -- he's operating in the interest of america in a global sense in going against oil. i think otherwise. >> glenn: you think he thinks he's helping us? >> yes. yes. you could rationalize that. if you're a committed environmentalist -- >> glenn: he's not a committed environmentalist. the man put solar panels on the roof of the white house. >> environmentalists are a big part of his constituency. he is going with them. >> glenn: he is not a committed environmentalist. that's a slimy politician. back in a second. ú7@oúoroenroro5
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[♪...] 170 hospitals helping 17 million kids each year. children's miracle network hospitals-- hospitals helping local kids. for information on how to help, visit childrensmiraclenetwork.org. from america's news headquarters hello, i'm julie banderas. the death toll climbing from a violent rainstorm that lashed the east coast. police in upstate new york recovered the body of a 7th victim. the bad weather is being blamed for six other deaths in north carolina and pennsylvania. the remnants of tropical storm nicole dropping six months worth of rain in some parts. israeli prime minister
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benjamin netanyahu urging the palestinians not to quit the peace talks. stalled over thish hugh of israeli settlements. politicians saying no progress can be made unless israel agrees to freeze settlement building. the obama ada administration w keep trying to find a solution before a summit next weekend. i'm julie banderas. now, back to more glenn beck here on fox. >> glenn: all right, america. here is your choice. we can go to the dust bin of history and continue the policies that we are on. we can listen to the arrogant politicians who say that the american people are stupid and they don't get it. or we haven't explained them to enough.
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yeah, they have. you heard enough. or we can stand up and square our shoulders and say as gandhi said we don't hate you, we just want you to leave. john bolton is here, stuart varney and daniel hannon is also here. ambassador, before i get to the engine of america that needs to be restarted and the idea engine of america, entrepreneur spirit, can you give us a little bit on what is it that americans should know, should read, should guard against? give me something to do to guard against global governance. >> send me back to the united nations. >> glenn: if i were president you'd be the king of the world. >> no, please. please. i think you have summed it up exactly right. we need a public debate and we need to make choices this november and in subsequent
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novembers about what direction we want the country to go in. i fully understand why people are concerned about jobs and the economy. but our president is pursuing a broader, much more dangerous agenda. we need to get that out. i think if americans really focussed on it, they would reject it overwhelmingly. that is the first and most critical step. >> glenn: i really, i'm such a naive, i really believed that when i could produce the evidence, which we have on this program, in their words -- not my words, their words -- that other people in the media would be honest. and boy, was that stupid! maybe i'm the stupid one in america that john kerry and the elites keep talking about. how do we -- where do you find the information, john? the average person, what do they do? if they want to understand, and i mean really, people are
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reading "the road to serfdom." the old one. not the new one. the old one. 70,000 copies were sold after appearing on this program. it sold 7,000 a year. is there a book or anything to help people understand what they're up against? >> there is a lot of information out there. one thing the tea party movement has done since it came from the people themselves, it's gotten people doing that kind of research. i think it's clear that this is the most amazing grass roots movement we have seen in the united states in a long time. some of the work that you have done to get people to go back, read the constitution, read the founding documents, focus on what the framers meant. it's having an enormous impact. it's not going to happen in one election. but i think these changes underway are going to be the salvation of the country. >> glenn: okay. ambassador, i know we have to cut you loose. you have an appointment, so i thank you very much for being with us. let me go to our british
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friends. you are both believers of the power of america. daniel you wrote a new book "new road to serfdom, letter to america" which is basically common sense, really. a new common sense. >> it was written by another brit. >> glenn: not so much. he regretted that whole being born in britain thing. anyway, you believe in the power of america. i think we all three see and feel what is going on here. there is a great awakening. i believe we are at the beginning of the third great awakening in america, which will change everything. but they are not going to let go of this power and this opportunity. this is the opportunity the proing progresses have waited for, for 100 years. the fundamentally -- to fundamentally shut the constitution and cap america's
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power and go global. what needs to happen? because you're concerned about one of the things i'm concerned that we are really going toward inflation. >> sure. this report that you were citing at the beginning talking about the shift in power from america to asia. you know, that isn't some natural inexorable force. it's happening for a reason, a political reason, which you could do something about. it's easy to say what the reason is. the country has been encouraged by the federal reserve in common with other western countries to consume without producing. fed policy has been based on the idea that consumption is what drives growth. but consumption is a consequence of growth. you start consuming when there is more that you produced. i was very alarmed this week to see the federal reserve admitting that inflation was its policy. it's now become a stated
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objective, that this is the best way for them to get rid of the debt, which this administration has run up. in other words, they will debatch private savings to erode the public debt that the government has taken on. if everyone is consuming and no one is producing, if you have inflation, it will ultimately shift to china and places that are making things. >> glenn: basically i think what you are saying here say we are the rockefellers. the rockefellers started standard oil. if somebody would have come to them, an advisor and just said stop all industry, stop everything that is making money. stop your exploration of oil, do nothing. you have to spend all your wealth. and that's already kind of happened with the rockefellers, but they were still producing. eventually they run out of money. >> right. >> glenn: because they're not
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making any more money. that's where we are. you have run out of money. >> we were there. we drew back from the brink and elected a government that started controlling the deficit. this is zimbabwe economics, so therefore rather than trying to live within your means or constrain your expenditure you print more money. >> we have run out of money because we're spending too much. essentially the welfare state of europe and north america are broke. we're borrowing the money from the new wealth creators, which is asia and china in particular. that cannot go on. >> glenn: but we're also broke in many other ways. we're broke in spirit, we are broke -- the system we designed in the last 100 years doesn't work. you can't hold bad teachers in jobs when they're bad. you can't pay pensions to auto workers that you'll never be able to -- that 40 workers underneath have to work to pay the one pension. >> but glenn, wherever you
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have radicals, revolutionaries that want to destroy america. and they are in powerful positions right now. i wanted to ask daniel, because we will survive if we're allowed to survive by the globe. what is the impression of the american people? if i were watching from abroad, i would see racist, hate mongering, crazy, stupid people in television. that's what is showing here. is that the impression? >> pretty much. if you are talking about what is happening in the run-up to the election, the view of most foreign media is that the sea sea is a collection of -- tea party is a collection of stump-tooth bearded appalachian mountain men with extreme view. it raises the question why do they keep winning? a headline was unelectable woman wins delaware primary. she couldn't have been that unelectable.
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the explanation if you start with that, this is because americans must be more weird and right wing and kookie than anyone else. but the real explanation is open primaries allow point of view to be imposed on the rulers; whereas, the rest of the world politicians are selected by small party committees. people have become resigned to not having a say over the direction of policy. >> forgive me, glenn. i'm bursting here. you have to say europe can no longer be considered a judeo christian continent, no longer a spiritual christian society. it's more pagan than anything else. they look at america, which is a profoundly spiritual society, where religion is a part of many, many people's lives and they do not understand this. they are contemptuous of america. that's at the heart of the relationship. >> glenn: we don't have anybody on our side that is really sending the message of the statue of liberty.
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anymore. >> for the reason you gave. the media in europe tend to take the cue from the left wing media here. first of all, they ignored the tea party phenomena. when they picked it up they went from ignoring it to think these people are insane. >> glenn: i tell you, i saw a bbc report on me. i was some place and they were saying you're on the bbc. i was like, yeah, i know. it read the report that he did. i was surprised. he's better than any journalist here in america on getting the message right. he doesn't like me. but he got the message right. let me go to charles in the audience. charles, go ahead. >> yes, we have an election this november. we have another one 2012. how far down the road do we go before we can't reverse some of the global initiatives that are underway? >> may i answer that? i'm not sure about the global initiatives, but there are aspect of domestic policy which are easily reversible. healthcare reform. i do not approve of it. it can be reversed and replaced. big government spending.
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stimulus plans. that can be reversed. you don't have to have another one. all kind of economic policy initiatives of the last 18 months, bail-outs, nationalization of various industries. they can be reversed and no new plans put in place. >> glenn: read about woodrow wilson and calvin coolidge. woodrow wilson, we are repeating it all. he didn't have the u.n.. he was trying for the league of nations. and they didn't have -- we didn't have personal debt. and we also didn't have, you know -- we had industry on our side. and europe owed us a lot of money. but calvin coolidge came in, slashed it in half. cut the taxes in half. we got the roaring '20s. don't ever count us out until you count to ten. i got to go to don in a second. we'll be right back. ?úspçpsdsdsç
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>> glenn: we're back with stuart varney and hdaniel hannon, author of "new road to serfdom." don has a question on this mess. >> the country and china are linked permanently, what will happen when the china auto worker realize he doesn't have health insurance but the fruit of his labor his country is loaning to the u.s. so the uaw worker can have the health insurance? >> glenn: i don't think the uaw worker -- i think the standard of living in america if globalists will have their way will go way down. i talk to a friend in china who says china is afraid of instability as much as we are. when the chinese worker
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realizes wait, wait, wait. people are getting rich off my back. and we organize we have an awful lot of power. that changes the world, does it not? >> there is a deal in china. we'll keep quiet, we, the workers, will keep quiet and you can keep your position as communist rulers of the country. in return, you keep us getting more prosperous. if that deal breaks up, political deal breaks up. >> glenn: i talk to a guy who does a lot of work in china, they are building one factory and everyone gets $1.50 an hour. when they start to say wait a minute, they will build another factory for $1.50 an hour and give these guys $5 an hour and keeps them happy. they'll eventually run out of provinces but it will take 5,000 years. george, go ahead. >> my wife beth is a career firefighter in the state of new jersey. and currently their pension fund is $180 billion in the hole. currently the new governor chris christie who was elected
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is working his butt off to try to fix that, but how do we fix that and keep that fix and mobilize at the same time? >> the promises that were made cannot be paid. they cannot be fulfilled. you are talk about far too much money. one of several things will have to happen. either the pension benefits will be cut back dramatically. >> glenn: dramatically. >> or there will be enormous cuts in social services in the state of new jersey so that the pensions can be paid. or the federal government steps in with a bail-out of some sort. one of those three things has to happen. >> glenn: one of those three things is the only one that can happen. and sanity. it requires the union members, not the union leaders, because they'll never get it, just like the politicians, the union members to find a politician like george washington that they trust, that can say this guy isn't trying to true me. that can broker a deal with the politicians and say look, we know. we know. so we can have our jobs and we
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can have a little bit for those who are right at the essential of retirement, who -- edge of retirement who can't work anymore. let's take care of the people who are the neediest. unfortunately, all those promises are going to have to be broken. it's going to require union members, correct me if i'm wrong, require union members to swallow hard, because you've been lied to. and screwed. swallow hard and say okay. but that is going to happen with all of us. with all of us. if anybody thinks it's just the union workers, all of us are going to get hit hard. our lives are going to change. but that is why i go back to this first question. who are we? are we people that say no, i want mine. or are we the people who say crap, like the founders, i will do the right thing. i will do the really hard thing. so my children have the opportunity to create and be free? back in a minute.
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