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>> reporter: this is a fox news alert. i'm ainsley earhardt what. powerful pictures. that is the first miner. an incredible, emotional scene. we watched the first trapped miner walk out of that capsule tonight alive. this happening less than an hour ago. >> and i'm greg jared. it's a rashable moment. rescue of the first of 33 miners in chile trapped underground 69 days. avalos made it to the surface in that escape capsule.
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his 7-year-old little boy sobbing there. the president of chi gave him a big hug and steve harrigan join us live. we wait for the second miner to come up in the capsule. it's happening now. describe again that meegsal moment when the first miner emerged. >> reporter: a 31-year-old down there with his brother two months. there was some snags beforehand with tests of the capsule. there is a concern about whether this would work. everything worked according to schedule so far. and there is some concerns and the nation was holding its breath and watching and waiting when he came out of the capsule, he walked over and hugged his wife and daughter. an emotional scene. the president there as well. he had been writing letters to the family saying he wanted to
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spend more time with his family make them a priority. and you sense when he hugged his wife there was a sigh of relief here. he was fit as well. and chosen first for a reason. there are concerns about snags and problem was the first man out. he'd be able to deal with unexpected trouble. and his skin looked good. there are concerns about skin problems for people underground to two months. he looked vigorous, shook hands, walked freely, then put on a stretcher taken to the temporary hospital. and for triage. and these miners come up are going to be tested to see how they're doing. and they're likely to be taken to the hospital in town. there is beds waiting for them. each time a miner comes up a siren will alert the medics so
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that wheel is turning. we're seeing two relief workers going down into the mine to help. some remarkable pictures have been in a state of undress. the reason why is they're ready to put on the special clothing. the suits so if you're undressed except for under garments you're ready to put on that compression suit goitsing to help you from prevent you from getting a blood clot on the way up. they'll get into the suit and on the way up for about three or four feet per second it's a slow climb. there are two bends in the climb. we've seen the wife or family members with the president and first lady of chile who have been closely tied to this rescue operation and there is the wife of number two, a 40-year-old on his way up. and she's chatting with the president. waiting for her husband. >> and he should be up any minute now.
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we're standing on set he's getting into the chamber. it's taking about 20 minutes they're saying so we've been here what? 10 minutes? 15 minutes? >> right. >> so we'll take that and what do we know about this individual? how was he chosen to be the second miber to company come out of the shaft? >> some have been chosen because they're fit to deal with unexpected problems. next few miners after the first four could be some of those with health problems. a diabetic one was high blood pressure. one is 63 years old. so we'll get some of the miners with health concerns after these first four all wait to the end. the end going to be the shift. a man has seen as a father figure for the group helping get them through the dark times. and you can see the president there embracing and holding hands of number two's wife. a lot of the women have gone
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to the beauty parlor in town in the last day and wanted to look their best after not having seen their spouse two months. attention, you know tension was great. after this first run, there is a sense that this works. it worked the first time there. is expectation and a bit of relief. >> what is this like as a journalist? we're watching videos. they're emotional for us. we've been covering this for a long time. folks have been keeping up with the situation there and what is it like to be there on the ground? and to see this firsthand? >> you know, emotion is contagious. it's an unusual emotion for journalists, people are thrilled and happy. it's interesting when the first miner came up, avalos, his wife embraced him. daughter burst into tears. sort of a burlly heavy set
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miner helping to pull the coil up say they cut away to him. he had tears in his iz. there is a real sense of relief. of great joy. and also, a sense of pride, too. it's a major engineering feat to pull off. it took two months to do. and a major personal feat of endurance. to surface on your own and with help. these miners seen as an example of how to behave and sur prif as -- survive as a group. it's a blend of emotion. pride, joy. and relief and hope, too. thes rescues keep coming. >> thank you. stick around there is another rescue coming up in a few minutes. thanks steve. >> we're going continue to follow to take a look at pictures. there is a lot of anxious people there in chile waiting for the second miner any moment now to be hoisted to the surface after almost 69 terrible days underground. and a lot of it in darkness.
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let's bring in dr. mark segal who has been following events several days now. let's talk about that. high-calorie liquid quiet. why? >> because they expected to become nauseous. they are under stress coming up to the surface. they want to be careful not to have them vomiting so they're using this diet nasa invented for astronauts to give them a lot of calories to get the energy, give them fluids. they have to replace fluids. they've been dehydrated down there. other point i want to make on the way up, viewers might say why are they worried about blood clots if it's only a 20 minute climb? the answer when you've been lying down there like this for months, when you stand up and suddenly up right that is when you might dislodge a clot. they're right to use compression stocks and aspirin. prevent blood clots, then deal
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with stress. >> and salt tab blitz. >> we're sweeting is and losing salt f you just replace water you're not going to have the same result f you put salt back, maybe managing to keep fluids on board. on the way up, they have to keep that voice communication. it's important. you've got to keep talking to them, that is how to avoid panic. if they can focus on speaking to people, they're going to do better. >> thank you. we're going to toss it back out there. looks like the second miner is coming up. his wife hands over his face, she's emotional. we're watching her and she's smiling and so adam housley is out there live on the scene what. can you tell us? >> yeah, we're just outside of the gate here a few hundred yards down. you just talked about the wife of the miner coming up.
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that capsule going to be coming up any minute. it's about 13 or 14 minutes. six minutes ahead of schedule. you're hearing cheering there is a part of that cable that comes up that indicates they're close. when that happens the crowd here cheers. and this miner's family, part of the family is here. there is again only a few allowed to go up there. his friends are here. you can see cameras on it. the media has crowded around. and there is a split screen they're watching here. and they show that capsule where that will hopefully emerge. and should be coming up at any moment. and they have been ahead of schedule with their time. >> there sit. >> and now we're hearing a cheer. a cheer, guys. you can see a second capsule coming up safe and sound. i don't care if we see that 34 more times, you're going to get a cheer here.
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look at his wife. now, people are chanting chile! spelling out chile. and out here, and flags are waving they're getting ready. you can see his wife just in anticipation. >> he's smiling. >> the joy. he looks like the last miner. look at the smile. >> he's wearing protective glasses. >> he's the man looking strong. yes. that is a glasses as well. it's dark here, there is a smile from ear to ear. look at him to greet his wife and friends. everyone cheering here down the hill up there. and waiting for the first embrace. oh, goodness. and that is just he looks strong, too. you know? hats off to the men above ground who were in charge of making sure and he has something for his wife. hang on, guys.
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we're told some might be bringing stuff up. pulling things. pulling out friends to give to rescuers. i mean... he looks like a man underground since august 5? hats off to men and women above ground. they kept the men sane and strong. making sure they did everything they could. and to be available to be able to walk off with enthusiasm? it's just a scene out of a movie. who can write a script like this? >> thinking of others, bringing gifts? >> we're told thes -- the capsule will go down without a rescuer. >> and he's going hug everyone. and we're told -- yeah. go ahead. >> seems like it's going faster than they'd represented talking about going take a miner per hour this, is going quickly. >> yeah.
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may go faster now. last two times, we're just told again there were plans to -- he's hugging every rescuer. so we're told they're not going send down a third rescuer. they can change that plan. that is what they told us here, we'll have to watch and see. if they'll go down and look. there are waves and cheers. look at this. that is the rea, of the country and globe now. people cheered and you can see this amazing and draw matic pictures ofñr a man wus life has just been saved. and he's may have been basic been entombed for life. the cheer is in spanish saying spelling out chile in spanish. every time someone comes up and l is a good moment, every time it comes in top, people across the country and now, up
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in the mine chant out the spelling on the country of chile. that will happen now what? 31 more times? >> so things, again, a good, good return. yeah. >> adam? >> the capsule expected to go back down. and there is a time frame? about six minute as head going down and about 17 -- 15-17 minute as head faster going down. seven minutes coming up. so far. >> greg, we talked about we're talking to experts throughout the day worried about the malnutrition thought they're going come out skin and bones. that is not the case. we're worried going to come out distressed? maybe that will develop. you can see they're cheering and celebrating and excited. tears, smiles, laughter, it's just a celebration of a day for everyone.
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>> now, they'll be escorted to a triage unit. then later on examined in the hospital. adam, take it over. >> and the first miner has not been taken to the hospital. he's still up there in that hospital. it's very well defined and this is still remains to be seen if they're going to wait here, and the president smiling and covering his face. question becomes this. there first four in line expected to come up. then we're told the weaker miners come up. it's going to be interesting to see throughout the night how those miners how they get out fft they come out as excited and energetic that and weaker miners will come up in the middle section of those brought up. it's going to be interest to
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see how they handle. >> adam housley wonderful coverage there. on the scene, live. you can see the capsule about to be inserted back into the shaft. there are the wheels and helping guide it 2041 feet into the ground. there are 31 others still waiting to be rescued after 69 days. and their day of liberation arrived we're going take a quick break. we'll be right back with more of our live coverage.
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>> reporter: report a fox news alert. pulled to fresh air, freedom now. two of the chilean miners trapped 69 days have been well, received by huge cheers and crowds and loved ones in an escape capsule making its way 2041 feet to the surface. the president of chile there. he has been hugging each of the miners. there are 31 more to go. we're going to continue to follow what's happening here at the capsule is being lowered yet again into the shaft. you know we've been talking with dr. mark segal about what these men have been going through. post traumatic stress disorder is probably one of the things doctors will be looking for? >> yes whae. saw was this massive adrenaline surge. miner number two got out that. could be a little deceiving.
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he was positive and so glad to see thachl he may be running out of energy an hour from now. it's important doctors not be fooled and they take him into the hospital and look carefully. is he dehydrated? going develop post traumatic stress down the line? where there is flash backs and anxiety? very, very common, 40% to 50% of the time you think goitsing to occur with a few miners if not all of them. >> absolutely. >> and many of them have medical problems as you've pointed out and may have been made worse down there. this is something going require careful observation. rehigh duration. minerals and there is no vitin d down there. there is an incredible thing in terms of current health. they may well have been well nourished down down there but waits 90 degree heat. i'm expecting problems.
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>> and coming up. >> and relative humidity as well. we're talking about skin fungus and lesions we understand have been a problem? >> and what about hygiene sn worried about infections. >> right. infectious diseases. there is waste down there. the smells and gases we're talking about in the green room. methane gas concerns. >> methane gas in mines a problem. and they're giving them oxygen on the way up. they have to be tested about that. they've been explos poesed to toxins now for months. we don't know what long term affects are going to be on their lungs and brains. >> were you surprised when you saw first two running out and hugging? jumping up and down? >> i can't tell you how amazingly positive this s it's a testament to the teamwork. figuring out who is in charge, parceling out food, water.
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this is i bet emotion of being a team meant the most. >> they're lowering capsule one again into the ground. they will retrieve yet another. the third of the trapped 33 miners down below. and remember there are a couple rescue workers went down there to evaluate the situation. these are men who in the capsule as they're taken a ride up, have to have an oxygen massing on and to be instructed on escape hatch. and they well know that they have a bio med monitoring device strapped on so their respiratory conditions and breathing and heart rate can be monitored. and claustrophobia, panic attacks and anxiety attacks are a problem. they're being watched with a tiny cram mounted inside and wearing a head set as well. so they can communicate with the people up above. very important to keep
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conversations going. because you are in a coffin, closed and surrounded by earth. as we wait for the third miner to emerge would want to bring in certified mine safety professional bruce dial joining us on the telephone. there is many trips up and down. could a rock shift? >> in f.you notice there are wheels on top and bottom. once it leaves that lining they put the steel pipe in there, it's wheels rolling against the rock. as this makes a trip, up and down,. >> what would happen? >> it's possible the rocks could fall in and wedge the capsule.
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into the shaft. likely it's the outside of the cap you'll. -- calls yup -- capsule. >> you're an exbert safety. safety is your specialty. we rescued two men. they're still 31 men to rescue. two more rescue workers there, down there. and if s.there a chance that that rock can collapse? or cave in? i hate to be negative. we're not out of the woods yet. when they're bringing the shaft up what are the chances of the rock becoming loose? >> there is is always a chance. they said the rock was very hard and would be hard to cut through that. is good. a lot of shafts have soft rock. >> and bruce, what about the hoist rig pulling the cable some it's possible that it could overhee. koit snap? >> no.
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the hoist cables are used as a special cable that prevents a capsule from rotating. it's a one inch diameter. the speed they're moving i don't think there is a chance of that. >> thanks for watching. you're watching this live rescue in chile. we're going take a short break. we'll be right back. stay wit
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>> reporter: freedom is sweet two. miners safe, above ground for the first time in months. now waiting on remaining 31 still trapped below. the first to surface, he arrived to cheers from his family and from country men there in chile. he like the second rescued miner wearing a helmet and sunglasses. protected from light above ground. avalos smiling and hugging workers then embracing chile's president. the miner's wife two, children, his father, all there waiting for him, smiling. crying and laughing. and then, just quickly as he arrived, he was off in an ambulance, rushed off on a gurney for mefd cal testing. >> more background now. again, these men have been trapped a terrible ordeal, more than 2,000 feet underground. the trip up in a rescue
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capsule taking about 20 minutes. and now moving faster than anticipated or represented with things included an estimate about an hour but it seems now to be less. we're told the first miners surfacing are the four fittest of mind and body selected to be first. crews expect them to be the best prepared for the journey set to come next will be the ten men, weakest or ill one suffering from hypertension, another a diabetic. more have dental infections for lesions on the skin. >> and steve harrigan is out there on the scene. he's been telling us what's happening. and steve, what is the latest? what an exciting time for you to be there? what is the latest now? >> it's remarkable and that is being lowered again so we can
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see the third miner getting into that capsule. that would be juan palma. he's 51 years old. and after that, we can get some miners with health problems. and the capsule does look like it's been taking a beating going up and down some of the paint seems to be chipped off. we heard word from the president pinera said this mine will not reopen. so some blow back from this crisis. the mine will be shut down. this mine had a history of safety problems. it's going to be out of business. back to you in new york. >> steve, as i understand it, president sacked the head of the mining industry, fired him? what is the reason given?
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>> disappointed in the safety report of the mines. certainly heads had to roll after this. as far as mining minister, he's been ot scene as much as the president here and has become a popular figure in his own right. he waved through the crowd of reporters and cameras to become a very popular figure here. so both president and one minister getting a boost. hard to imagine having 33 miners trapped for two months could give your political career a boost but that is the affect here. there is a reason is that the governor set conservative guide points they've achieved what they've set tout achieve. you say you're going to rescue in december and pull them out in october you're looking good.
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they like what they see and there is another strong miner a 50-year-old carpenter getting ready to get into the unusual-looking capsule going into hard rock. >> just so our people know, you're looking inside that safe room here. and these are the pictures. the rest of the miners and many are shirtless because of the temperatures there. 80 degree humidity. and they're just waiting for their turn. we're going to continue to follow both at the bottom of the shaft as well as on the surface. the joy, cheer that erupt every time. steve we'll check back with you shortly. >> i hope you can see the chilean flag there as well. fox news is bringing you latest on this unprecedented rescue. let's take a moment focusing on the amount of human will and engineering involved in
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this. we have dave larisski in charge of the twut pennsylvania mine rescue. i wanted to talk to you. have you experience in this. we're seeing all of the miners coming up. and they're cheering what. can we anticipate to happen in weeks still to come? you've been through this. you've rescued miners in pennsylvania. >> and i think that for everybody there comes a time when and the reality sets in and i can't speak for miners. i know a little bit about what happened. and this is a difficult time for them. i don't anticipate anything would be different in this effort. and this is i i they're probably going to be surprised
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and perhaps shocked at what is going to come their way into the next few days or weeks. and you know these minersw3 have shown remarkable coverage, and endurance to do what they've done. and hopefully, they've been able to do that. an emotional time for everybody. >> is it your experience most miners invochled in some sort of a situation similar to this, they're trapped and managed to get out. and so do they quit their profession? >> it's a mix. you know? i've known people that have had circumstances that are like this that had accidents or have been trapped and have turned. i know eithers have left because of the risks that may be present. they just didn't want to deal anymore. it's about the individual. and won't surprise me a bit if
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folks end up back in some of the mining operations in their area. so it's going to be on the individual, up to the individual themselves. how well they handled this situation. and you know, their families go be to deal wigt as well. >> there is media attention. you know they're going to get so much media attention and they're going to go back to living lives. how does that affect them? >> well, you know, i can't speak for them. i know how it affected some of the folks we work w there is a lot of attention. and they're not going to recognize what that is going to be. and it's going to be certainly high once given the opportunity to meet with the press. and certainly it's almost like playing a, being high in anticipation of something cover occurring maybe like playing a hard football game. and then, all of a sudden, the
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game ends. and adrenaline stops. that happens to rescuers and to the families. certainly happened to me. when at cue creek there was a sunday end and there was a lot of jubilation and all of a sudden, there was just nothing more. it hits you at one time. i can't tell what you folks gorg through. i suspect goigts to be difficult for them. >> and dave, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> and the second of 33 men have been rescued after 69 days trapped in that collapsed mine in chile. pulled to fresh air and freedom at long last. and a missile like escape capsule to the cheers and hugs of his family. and friends. and countrymen, including the president of chill yai. and there -- chile. there is the scene we await the capsule to bring the third to the surface.
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in a dark cave, that is the height of twice of the empire state building. and you have for the first few days, 17 days you get a sip of water and a sip of milk per day. two teaspoons of tuna. that is it. nobody knew you're alive until the 17th day. a message was read on the end of a drill bit. and then, you had to wait for the rest of the 69 days before you're lifted to safety. it hasn't happened for all of them. two so far were waiting for the third. >> this happened on august 5th, 33 miners trapped under there. they decided to eat lunch in the emergency shelter a good move because that landslide happened and trapped all of them below. but they happened to be in the right place. and that emergency shelter did give hope for survivor and you've seen two miners lifted out today. and this has given us all put
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smiles on our faces. you can see the capsule just hit the ground, below ground. i should say. and a half mile below ground to pick up the third miner. you can see them walking around, someone walking up to the caps yu. and we'll see hopefully a third coming above ground. what do we say? 20 minutes now? >> should be about then. they have to put on a compression suit and a suit that will keep them warm because of the difference between near freezing on the surface and 90 degrees down bee will he. >> looks like he has those brown colored overall autos within that is these pressure socks and almost a coarse yet to drive blood toupt heart and brain. you want to prevent blood clots and keep blood pressure up. so never before as a group of miners endured what these men
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have. they've never forget their expeer yechbls on the telephone now is dr. patricia watson. senior specialist at the national center for post traumatic stress disorder. also, assistant professor at dartmouth medical school. talk to us about what is known as ptsd. >> well, post traumatic stress disorder happens for people in a traumatic situation. and have affects including flash backs and memories and hyper arousal type symptoms including irit yablt, insome kneea. having trouble relaxing and they have a sense sense of
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wanting to avoid speaking or talking about what happened to them. >> and i have a question for you. can you predict who is going to be suffering from post traumatic stress? we just saw a miner looking unbelievable. positive and fufl emotion. can we say what is going to happen to him later on? >> no. boy not say you can predict based on what's happening at this moment. what you find are there are different risk facters including a lot about what resources are going in and after they get out it's hard to predict in the very beginning time frame. that is lasting this lock long. usually takes tweaks before you can see a pattern of
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having symptom autos what do you think is going happen? is it going to improve their marriages? relationship was children? the first miner hugged children, wife. the second miner hugged his wife but not a long embrace and immediately went to the president and went to other people and giving out gifts. >> my predictions in line with what your last speaker spoke b it's a individual situation. and the way they're presenting themselves is he didn't hug her as long as the other guy. it's funny. and this is funny. and the outward behaviors have less to do with what they're going to show up later on. then what happens to them like i said over next few weeks.
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everyone going to have a individual way of managing this. that what they've brought into it has an affect on the way coming out of it. and how their families react to them. and so this is really very hard to predict, you know based on all 33 of the people are going to have ptsd. absolutely not. they did all of the right things staying organized and focused behavior. they made themselves busy. and they have gotten a lot of support so from what happens from here on out, something we need to watch unfold. >> and there is an exnert matters as post traumatic stress disorder. it's just a professor of psychiatry, thank you for being with us. >> the scene at the bottom of
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the shaft 2000 surface. yet another cap tul is being -- capsule of being noted. the scene could be different when the third arrives and several therefore. because we understand these miners do suffer from the fairly serious medical problems. and we do know that some have hypertension, diabetes. respiratory infections and so forth. when we come back, as we wait for next miner talking about those conditions and what will
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you're looking live underground. there are 31 miners rest. -- left two. interest v.been freed and the capsule is just departing and it just disappeared. there is the pully and the hoist. it's going to take about 15 minutes or so for to it come up with the third miner in it. >> that is right wex have dr. mark seeingel talking about medical condition was the individuals as being rescued. there are many different concerns we've been talking about. there is one thing we haven't talked about. the exercise portion. i was told some are exercise in place or running below the
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ground. if you're staying in place, and you're not exercising a great deal what does that do to your heart? >> we talked about the risk of blood clots. another thing that is not commonly known is that if your muscles become flaccid, blood pressure goes down so. a person going to come out with high blood pressure high have low blood pressure. a number of miners may have very low blood pressure with die high duration it's not a good combination. one of the reasons they have to make sure they're hydrated. >> and this is 21 inches in diameter. he's got a head set there. is a tiny camera on top. they can monitor the condition. they're checking his pulse and skin temperatures. his respiration and he he is in a coffin about 15 minutes.
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are there coping techniques? >> absolutely. the most important thing is to have an opportunity to focus on. don't think of being entrapped. don't think of what can go wrong. think of that voice coming through to you from the surface. and what that is saying. people from the surface being coached how to talk to the guys on the way up. >> maybe a psychiatrist? >> maybe a medical professional keeping their minds off the fact they're entrapped 20 minute autos would it be dangerous to give them a sedative? those scared of an elevator type shaft? >> over aushlg it's not a good idea you don't want to suppress breathing and want them to be alert and so i don't think so. >> what about air pressure? >> that is something we've been talking about. there is a lot more air pressure at the bottom than at the top. we almost wonder about something like the bends occurring. you get more carbon dioxide
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into the blood going to the surface. they're raising them slowly enough so that that isn't going to be a major concernment it's something they're going have to watch. >> as mentioned earlier next few miners maybe ones who have serious conditions now. some may have occurred down there. you can have individuals, could you not who had strokes? minor heart attacks? >> you don't know it. and there is i'm concerned about the diea bet yichblg i'm watching for him. diabetes uncontrolled without medication gets more easily dehydrated. it's a tough disease when you are don't have medication. >> i assume they've been sending down medication with food and water. >> they have to. for survival.
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>> if they've been doing that they don't have ability to monitor it. >> my mother takes insulin three shots per day. she cannot survive on mill skpk tuna fish. >> great point. and there is the way you monitor is making sure a paish jent eating. it's not go do well when there is very little food. >> they've been getting better nourishment since the 17th day. they were able to send down something more. but that is how they survived first 17 days. so a great point. and. >> there is sugar drop autos they need to monitor sugar after giving orange juice. that is one of the reasons i think that there is when they get to the surface what happens? there are things doctors do in
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a particular order? >> talking about monitoring vital signs. important thing is rehydrating patients. they have to get rehydrated and get salt and in addition to just water get back minerals and vitamins. and then, slowly increase their nutrition back. >> what are the reasons they decided to go at night. i understand if you hit sunlight after many days underground it will cause your pupils to constrict causing receipt continueal damage. >> you can see eye damage there. that is why these sunglasses at 1:00 in the morning down there. >> right. it's like being in a movie theater more than two months? then walking out in broad daylight. >> and skin, by the way. down there in 90 degree heat there is is certainly not
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getting food. >> and and that is why nasa designed liquid diet. they don't believe they can take solid food now. >> all right. thank you. >> and you're watching the mine rescue there. we've been talking about this here at fox news for more than two months and this is here, we're excited and waiting on a third miner. stay with us. right here on fox news ;7
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