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we are awaiting the arrival of victor segovia. bill bail special day, it continues right here now with jon and jenna. jenna: thanks guys, back to chile, in just a moment. first i have to tell but this breaking and developing story oust phoenix, arizona today where there has been found a suspicious package, right outside a nuclear plant, just a little bit west of phoenix. the plant is called palo verdes nuclear generating station, just west of phoenix and apparently a bomb squad on site, investigating this. we'll bring you more as we hear it. jon: you can hear the cheers of joy, practically here in our newsroom, they've been heard all over the world after the first minor is rescued shortly after midnight. i'm jon scott. [applause] jenna: i'm jenna
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lee, everybody, that was the first minor coming out coming out, his seven-year-old son, greeting him there. obviously we're following this story out of chile, the 14th of the 33 miners that reached the surface, fres air, freedom, definitely emotion and all of these reunions happening after 59 days trapped in the mines. that could have about him their tom but instead that's not the case. we're awaiting the rescue of the 15th miner and we should caution, although we've seen the successful rescue of 14 so far there are still questions out there. jon: that 15th miner on his way up right now. imagine seeing the sunlight after all those months underground. let's check in with adam
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housely, from the mine near copiapo, chile, what's happening now, adam? >> reporter: jon, i watched that 15th miner -- that 15th miner should arrive above ground in six, seven minutes, it's a 14 minute ride to their new life, a much different life, different than the last 69 days and now they're being called heroes, and life will be different for the coming weeks and months. the paper here shows the second miner who came up, mario sepulveda is call hollywood. everybody in sight was running around, they have pictures with florencio avalos, and the third person , illanes, with a big smile on his face, wearing sunday glasses. this is the type of informs we get as the miners come up and the families celebrate, the families are taking up,
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one at a time, each family member goes up and after they meet the miner, the next family is brought up. they are brought to a field hospital for about an hour, then flown via helicopter to the hospital in copiapo, about 35 miles away. at this point we're being told they're going to be kept there for two days, although there are some reports out now they may be there less time because they're coming out so healthy and strong. we want to give you an of where we're located. viewers have asked about this, you guys have wanted to know, they put down this reflector to give you guys an idea, as you go by t. you'll see in the distance, flags, media on both sides of the s curve. this is the roadway that leads to our location and past us, right up to the gate that goes up two, 300 yards to where the rescue site is taking place. what you can't see is in the distance, the rock piles where some of them have set up shop, and they're literally 100 or so locations, if not sore and intermixed, some of the tents are actually families.
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they're not just media tents, they're the families living amongst the media. people have gone down to eat lunch. it's lunch time, they have to wait for the 15th person, but the crowds gather each time someone comes up, they chant, they cheer and later this evening after the lunch hour rush is over and so many people have a chance to get rest as they get closer to the last few miners and rescuers coming up, the crowd will once again build here. it was quite a scene overnight here, it's been quite a scene here today, as this all continues out here. we have a retrospective, to give you an idea of what's gone on here, back on august 5th, this all began, these 33 miners were eating in a safe house basically down below, 2300 feet under the floor of the earth when the collapse happened. there are some reports saying there could have been an escape ladder that was not there that might have allowed them to get out. other miners who were not far enough in were allowed to escape but these 33 were down there, then for 17 days, they had no idea if
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anyone above ground knew they were alive. the president here in kh*lie it said to say that they were alive, there have been some families spoken here live on fox who told us that they came out here august 5th and have been here ever since, believing all along their loved ones were alive, then a drill bit was put into the earth and a man down there basically capped on it -- tapped ton and that's when the first sign of hope took place, relief holes were drilled and over the course of the next few week, water, food, guitars were sent down and other items, bibles, and the men were basically taught how to live life. they all had their own jobs, they all had their own assignments, they were all checked for medical purposes and were watched and i'm being told by our producer, three minutes until the 15th miner comes up here, and there will be another cheer, you'll hear the horns go off let me tell you about him as we await his arrival, victor
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segovia. we talked to his wife, not knowing when he would come up, the list hadn't been concluded yet, there were only four so far and he's 15 years a miner, eight years at this mine, and he was trapped in this mine for a week, two years ago, and he's going to be walking out now a second time, guys. jon: it is absolutely amazing, and a dose of good news that the world could certainly use right now. adam housely, we'll check back with you in just a bit. america is asking about these rescued miners, what's in store for them now. we're going to be talking about a great panel of experts, tail be -- they'll be taking your questions about these 33 men, about the mine, about the trapping of them. it's all part of our new town hall segment, go to foxnews.com/happening now, post your questions on our blog there, link to our e-mail or twitter account, keep your questions and your comments concise, we'll try to get to as many of them on the air as we can with our panel of experts.
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jenna: breaking news here state side as well, attorneys general in 49 states now launching today a major joint investigation into allegations that mortgage companies mishandled documents. we talked a lot about this, about four major lenders here in the united states, basically giving a foreclosure moratorium to their customers because of problems and issues that have come up with some of these foreclosures. we're going to be talking to the attorney general there of arizona, terry goodard, coming up later about this es-- investigation, what they hope to khaoefb and what this means for our housing market in the months to come. we'll continue to monitor that situation down in chile, but also want to talk to you about this horrifying twist to a story we're following closely on "happening now" and fox news. the suspected pirate attack on an american couple jet skiing on a border lake in mexico, tiffany hartley, saying pirates on speed boats shot her husband and then she had to leave his body behind, because those so-called pirates kept
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firing at her. mexico, after initially doubting her story, now stepping up the search for david hartley's body and the suspect -- and we'll be back to this in a moment, about we turn to adam housely where he is telling us we're going to see the 15th miner. jon: wow, it is a long trip up from deep underground. you can see the men wear sunday glasses. they have not seen daylight in 69 days. and all kinds of preautions are taken for this long trip to the surface. they are given exagain in case they need it, in case the air in the tunnel shaft, the bore shaft, is not of sufficient quality. they wear heart monitors and all kinds of devices just to make sure that that long trip to the surface goes well. jenna: it's interesting to note they were given some tailored clothes to make this special journey up and now of course they were concerned about their appearances, how they were going to reappear to the world after 59 days.
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so the man we're going to see there, victor segovia, let's take a listen and we'll talk more about him in a moment. jon: 13-minute ride to the surface, more than 2000 feet down, 13-minute ride to the surface for victor segovia. according to producers that was the second fastest trip of any of the 15 made so far jenna: interesting to note about him, 48 years old, as adam housely was just talking to us, and a -- and a few different reports coming in about him. apparently he was the one that kind of kept tabs on
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the group, a diary, almost, sending words to the top about what was actually going on underground, sending a daily report, that's according to the bbc. he was in charge of that. apparently he was also an electrician, so that was part of his job and service and as adam was telling us, he's been working as a miner for several, several years, he's been trapped down there before -- before, as adam said, a week, maybe not in this mine but certainly trapped underground, so you can imagine how this feels after # 59 days to finally see the light of day again. we should mention, jon, this is still group two, this is still the group they had some concerns about healthwise. jon: right. they brought up some of the healthiest miners first, that was the plan, to bring up the healthy ones first, the shoutest -- the stoutest, if you will, so that in case anything at all were to go wrong, they could have the best chance of survival of any snafu, so the group in the middle is considered to be a little
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less robust, perhaps that's the best way to put it and then they will bring up a stronger group at end. jenna: group three we expect to have come up in a few more moment, we have 16, and group three is the ones that could handle it if they had to wait longer to come up. with you -- can you imagine seeing your friends and buddies come up and you have to deal with that anxiety. that's why they were left to the last group because apparently they were the ones that could handle that. according to the information they received at the surface, which we should mention, really, it could change at any moment. jon: let's check back in with adam housely, there at the san jose mine, copiapo, chile, joining us via stream box. it's my understanding this is limited to two family members who actually get to greet them? >> reporter: yeah, they fudged that a little bit, jon. they've added people up there. you noticed a couple of kids up there with them, in fact,
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one family, we saw about half an hour ago, there were five, counting -- counting the two children. they are allowing them that and allowing the first boy, the man that came out, the president asked the president of chile himself if he could be closer to the mine. they were only a few feet away and some of the first people you see. you mentioned, jenna did, about victor segovia and the fact that he was buried before and it was i'm told in this mine for a week. he's also an author, he's been writing a book. we don't know if the book was about this, if he was writing something beforehand, or another topic but he is famous amongst the miners as being the author of the book, the guy who likes to write his thoughts down. as he comes up to a new life, we're told that right now, it's about two per hour. remember, there are 18 more miners down there, we also have three rescuers down there. by my watch, that means 12 1/2, 13 hours from now, everything continues to go at this pace, they'll have everybody up top which would
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be such a great sign for everybody involved here. jon: have there been any problems at all thus far? >> reporter: not that we know of. you know, their not really updating us on that because they're trying to keep obviously everything positive, but at the same time, we've been able to watch the video which has been so amazing through this whole process and we're not seeing the problems, so far, fingers crossed, that we saw during the practice runs last night. in fact the last two practice runs right before the whole process began, the first one went down about 3/when of the -- 3/4 of the way, they had problems with the bluetooth system that helps them keep in contact with the miner, they had problems with the door, a part of the door that basically jetted out and that's caused a problem because it could loose enrock and make this situation much, much worse, so they brought it up, they fixed the door, the bluetooth and sent them down. that was the last problem we know of was that practice run before they started this whole operation at midnight last night.
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jon: quick question, adam. we see them putting someone actually in the capsule. are they sending people down, as well as bringing them up, or is this just a test? >> that could be, jon -- we were told originally four would go down, then it was two, and about two hours ago they sent down a third rescuer. they may be sending another rescuer down. the two men down initially, they've been down there for a very long time, more than -- well, more than 12 hours, and so they're in charge of the medical process. you got to believe that if they're starting to get tired, they want to make sure that someone down there doing that process is absolutely alert so it would not be a surprise to see a fourth person go down, jon. jon: adam housely, in copiapo, chile, thank you. jenna: we're going to be saying that a lot, copiapo. >> jon: copiapo, chile. jenna: you say it better than i do.
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we'll follow this drama, as the rescuers bring these miners up, we'll be there live in chile, and back to you in a moment as we watch these events unfold on "happening now".
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jenna: back now to what's happening in chile as we watched a miracle in the mine, all of these men wait to go come up after 69 days under ground. we just saw the 15th miner come up. his name is victor sefplt. govia, he is the writer of the group, keeping tabs day to day about what's happening down there. adam said he even might be writing a book. wanted to read you some words from him that reportedly came in a letter to his family, we all had that question about what it was like down there. listen to this, quote, this hell is killing me, i try to be strong, but when i sleep, suddenly i dream we are in an oven and when i wake i find myself in this eternal darkness that wears you down day by day. i about be -- i will be
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strong for you all until the end, that quote coming from a letter that he wrote to his family and finally he did make it until the end, back to the light of day. jon: all of those men assigned various jobs underground and his assignment was to become the diarist of the group, to keep track of events and write them down so there is that record for posterity. jenna: the next man to see, number 16, still in group number there is daniel herrera, 27 years old, apparently was a truck driver, was acting a little bit as a paramedic assistant down underground. so we'll be waiting and watching for number 16 as he comes back to the surface. jon: and if you have questions about these men, what they went through, conditions in the mine, or about the rescue, don't forget to take part in our america's asking town hall, we have a panel of experts. get your questions to us, foxnews.com/happening now. we will continue our coverage of this amazing
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rescue of those 33 miners, trapped so long underground, 69 days in the san jose mine of copiapo, chile. more coverage, just ahead.
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jon: fox news alert, and just about an hour and 15 minutes ago, folks in oklahoma felt themselves shaking. the earthquake just hit about 6 miles -- centered about 6 miles east of norman, oklahoma, which of course is home to the university of oklahoma. staff and faculty and students reportedly have been cordon dollars out of dale hall there. it was a 4.5 magnitude on the richter scale, not a strong one but strong enough, folks felt it as far
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away as wichita, kansas. you can imagine people were nervous, reportedly officers from the norman police department felt their building shaking and ran outside thinking a truck or something had smashed into it, so a rare earthquake in that part of the country, 4.5 on the richter scale, once again, no reports of any damage or injuries: it all broke about an hour and 15 minutes ago. but so far, it seems everything is okay. jenna: you could definitely feel a 4.5, that's for sure, earthquake, in that part of the country. strange. here we want to tell you also about a breaking story in arizona. if you live outside or around phoenix, you might be affected today by this, a suspicious package was found supposedly at this nuclear plant, just west of phoenix, and there is a bomb squad investigating this suspicious package that was find early this morning, around 4:35, 5:00 in the morning local time by some security guards outside that generating station that pal
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lows verde plant. all sus publish -- suspicious packages are looked at, the sheriff saying they don't expect foul play but they're going to check it out. we don't know anything until we know officially what this is, they're investigating this, apparently there is traffic around this area, very tight, very congested, a developing situation outside phoenix, arizona today. jon: and this fox news alert, back to copiapo, chile, where at the san jose mine, they have brought up, what, successfully 15 miners so far. that means one remain underground. so far, this operation has gone flawlessly. they have actually sent down four rescuers. we found out from adam housely on the scene there they actually have sent down four rescuers, as well as bringing up the 15 miners so far, and there is a fifth rescuer yet to go down. jenna: that's what we saw. we were asking adam, we saw
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that live when the 15th miner came up, we saw someone jump right into the rescue capsule, the phoenix, right? >> jon: it wasn't clear to me whether they were testing what but apparently he was going down. jon:jon -- jenna: you saw that gate shut and there he goes. jon: with a big smile on his face. jenna: there are more than a dozen men underground and they are waiting and watching the fellow miners go to freedom and you can imagine the patience it takes to wait your turn. jon: there was apparently some squabbling, at least on the surface among family members, because whoever is the last one out, and we believe we know who that's going to be, but whoever is the last one out is going to be setting a guinness world record for having been stuck underground the longest, and so there will be some fame and note that accumulates to the last person up, and at least on the surface, some of the families were jockeying not only to have their miner be the first one out but also to be the last
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one out, oddly enough. that has all been settled. jenna: we'll be talking also to dr. keith ab below a little more about that, about what happens afterwards, once money gets involved, a lot of different things can happen with these relationships that were built for the last 59 -- 69 days underground. just to give you a little perspective, we're standing quite a bit aways -- seeing quite a ways from where this capsule is lowered, 2000 feet underground. just to give you perspective, the hole that was used to send messages and sometimes food and medicine was about the size reportedly of an orange, for days and days and weeks and weeks. that's what they were using to slide some of these different materials down. the hole that they're using now, apparently, is about the size of a bicycle wheel in dramter, so that's about the size that they're going in. you can think about that in your head and realize how tight it is, being lowered down, being brought back up, supposedly not a necessarily easy ride, a little butchy in some parts, you might say. jon: you can imagine and
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very claustrophobic, even for man accustomed to being in tight spaces. can you imagine the past 52 days have been more tolerable. at least they had that small shaft to the surface, authorities were able to send water down to them, food packets, notes, cameras, that sort of thing, but those first 17 days after the collapse, they spent 17 days completely out of contact with the outside world. they didn't know if anyone knew they were alive, they didn't even know if anyone was looking. you can imagine. jen and surviving on a spoonful of tuna every hour or so, that was rationed out to keep them alive and well. we're awaiting number 15, daniel herrera, waiting for him to come nup a few minutes. in the meantime, we're watching this situation, and you can watch too at foxnews.com. we'll be right back with more of "happening now".
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jen fox news alert, 15 of the 33 chilean miners just pulled to the surface and these men have survived, trapped underground longer than anyone on record, in our history. so how did they stay strong mentally and physically under such terrifying conditions and what's to come? we know that nasa helped, the space agency brought in to help, because the conditions neared those who have traveled extensively in space. and that brings us to -- we're going to speak to next former nasa astronaut, fox news contributor and author
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of pretatology, tom jones and a member of our medical a team, dr. siegl. thank you for being with us, we know it's been a long time, and dr. keith ab below, member of our a team is here to talk about the psychological side of it. dr. ablow, maybe we should start there. what's your biggest concern for these men? >> listen, this is obviously something without precedent. what's been required of them underground is to hold everything together, because the risks of not doing so were so gar began uan -- gargantuan, chaos, cannibalism, anything could happen, and you expect the emotions, now they will come forth, feeling of abandonment, of rage, of depression, anything can happen now of the magnitude of the stress, and let's not forget, one person may have come back from war and run for office, and found his
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strength, and another man can come back from war and hear voices, be subject to posttraumatic stress disorder, because when you really realize that you dangled by a thread, that your life can end with an avalanche of one kind or another, you may never be the same again. jon: tom jones, we brought you into this discussion because you nasa astronauts get a lot of training on dealing with the crowded conditions, the isolation, the lack of contact. but these men are, you know, rock miners, they didn't get that kind of training in advance. ci imagine it's a lot more difficult for them to have to try to deal with this situation. >> i think, jon, that's right. they didn't get a chance to prepare for this long extended journey away from their families and the stress that landed on both families up top side and on the miners' shoulders, so you're going to see when they come topside and reunite with their families a problem where they were in
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charge of their lives and fate underground and the families up top were running the family independently for the last 70 days and now there's going to be this question of who's in charge, and i think it's going to be useful for the miners to back off, let their families control things for a while, let them take the responsibility, until they can reintegrate successfully. another problem is going to be the company of the other miners, they've been in close quarters for the 70 days, the 33 of them, and they probably are going to want to spend time away from each other, to de compress, and i think it's not going to be our -- our intuition might be to say they would like to be together and appear on tv together and i think there's going to be some distance needed from the individual miners. you'll see them going solo. and eventually in a few weeks, after all the hoopla dies down, they're going to have a sense of letdown, from this joy of being rescued today, then a sense of reuniting with their families, but then there's going to be a letdown as
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life returns to normal and they're going to be faced with a big question, that is how to decide whether to go back to work and take on this stressful lifestyle again, will they decide to go underground. very interesting to me. jenna: you seem to be describing these things so vividly for all of us who have never been through that type of experience before. how did you handle it? what was the key thing for you to get through all those different emotions? >> my longest trip, fortunately, was only 18 days in space, so when i came back, it wasn't a terrible job of readaptation, but there was the hero syndrome that you have to overcome. you think you're at the center of the universe when you're in space like the miners were at the center of the world's attention and the day after i got home, somebody is asking me to take out the trash and it's normal but it's a big shock to go back to normal life, and i think that readaptation to the normal pace of life and the lower stress level is going to lead to perhaps a sense of letdown. and of course, the psychological counseling
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will be available to these folks as they come back to the surface and that will be very important that they take advantage of that counseling, stay out of the media eye for a while, except as they wish and not be thrust into this celebrityhood unless they want to. that's going to be a careful balance. jon: i wondered, dr. ablow, whether it was better that there were 33 of them down there or is it easier to adjust and handle this kind of thing if there are only two or three of you stuck in that kind of situation? >> i think it's better if there's a larger group, because of the cohesiveness of that group, and because you can rely on your brethren down there to support you. now you come back, and there is this expected dispersion, but it may be that they want their solitude, they want to be with their families, on the other hand, if you've had this kind of experience, literally unprecedented with other men, where your lives have been at risk for this long, the question is how do you relate to your wife anymore, how do you relate to the kids when she says well, who's going to go to the soccer game, can you
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hear that in the same way, or do you expect to talk about things that are so much more concerned with mortality and the ultimate questions in life. can you have a relationship after this, except with 32 other men who went through it with you. jenna: that's something that i guess only time will tell. dr. siegl, get your thoughts in here as well, as you've been covering this all morning for us here on fox news. as a doctor, what are your concerns? again, not only today, but over the next few days, for some of these miners, as they emerge not only from the mine but back into normal life. >> jenna, i have to tell you, what dr. keith and the astronaut, tom jones, are saying is very much related to the physical here, because as they go through an emotional roller coaster, you know, the psychological reaction, some of which are delayed, some of which are immediate, you're going to see an enormous -- enormous amount of stress that impacts on the physical, if they have underlying heart problems, many are over 50 years old, they look so healthy coming out of there, so exuberant, hugging everybody, but as they start to feel more and more
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stress, i get more and more concerned about their diabetes, about their high blood pressure, about their heart disease, many of them have underlying medical problems, one of them is suffering from chronic lung problems. what's going to happen as they deal with the stress? jenna: that's a good point, dr. siegl, we're going to be back talking to you all as this story develops. we have to break here for breaking news out of arizona. jon: a fox news alert. a suspicious package, found near a nuclear plant in arizona. detective aaron douglas is on the phone with us, he's with the maricopa county sheriff's public information office. it's our understanding that this suspicious package was actually in a vehicle, and there was a driver in that vehicle? >> well, it's still under investigation, but the maricopa county sheriff's office bomb squad has taken both devices, one was a suspicious package, the
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other, another device. they have now rendered it safe, they've put it in their equipment, they are taking it out to the sheriff's office shooting range to render it safe. all the other investigators are on scene and we'll get down to the bottom of exactly how this evolved all this morning. jon: anybody arrested? >> at this point, we're just talking to witnesses, no arrests at this point, but this is just starting. going into its third hour. jon: it's my understanding that while the plant has been shut down, as a result of this security operation, was this someone who was attempting to gain entry to the plant or its property? >> at this point, we're still evaluating the severity of that information the plant, the surrounding area, was locked down and
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evacuated, but the plant itself is still safe. we have -- each year we have demonstrations and procedures in case something like this happens. all of the equipment and necessary personnel are in place, so that we have a better outcome and a safe outcome for the entire metropolitan area. jon: we appreciate the information, detective aaron douglas is with the maricopa county sheriff's office, their bomb squad has apparently rendered safe this device that was found in a car near a nuclear power plant outside phoenix a couple of hours ago. we'll get more information and get it back to you. jenna: and much more about the miracle in chile, that rescue unfolding right before our eyes. we are waiting for miner number 16, daniel herrera, to emerge after more than two months underground.
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can you imagine? we're all over this developing story. during the break, check out our amazing slide show, log on to foxnews.com for a look back at the 69-day ordeal. no one in history has been trapped so long underground and survived. back with more in a moment.
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jenna: want to bring you back to chile, where we are watching, and well, certainly waiting for number 16 to come up, we're expecting daniel herrera to be the next one, 27 years old, adam housely can tell us more about him, he's been watching every and -- each and every miner come up throughout the early morning into mid day in chile, and adam housely has more on this. we understand any moment we expect number 16. >> reporter: yeah, now about two minutes and 30 seconds away, we're told. and they're pretty good about giving us the 3-minute warning, basically, when they approach the surface. there's actually some sort of something in the line -- a niche or something that
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you can see, we know it's getting very close. we've been given that warning. something interesting to take into account, jenna, this is the second longest one so far. they've been doing it in 13, 14, 15 minutes, now we're told two minutes out until he arrives, basically to his new life. this one was a longer one. we don't know why. the one before was mario gomez, the ninth miner, he had a special breathing apparatus on, he had problems with breathing, he's an mine all his life, since he was 12 years old, he's been in the mine 59 years and they brought him up carefully, they took the apparatus off while he was in the capsule. he was strong but you could see he was weak at some point and was quickly taken away to the field hospital. we don't know if daniel herrera has something going on or something with the capsule. we'll try to get information for you but this has been a bit longer than we've seen with most of the other miners. daniel herrera, he was a taxi driver before he came
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to this mine, he became a truck driver inside, he's 27 years old and he's the one coming up right now, 2300 feet, preparing to come out, step into the sunlight for the first time since august 5th. you can see the families, as they're brought up the hill behind me to the mine, to meet their loved ones. we're now within a minute or so of his arrival back up here and every time this happens you can see people get excited again, they turn towards the television, they start paying closer attention and you'll know when they reach, because you start to hear the cheers from the hill, all the way down here, and in the tents around where they're located, people start to cheer as the horn starts to go off, the celebrations begin. these small celebrations, now the 16th of them, and they'll still have a number to go before it's said and done. seventeen more miners are down below, as well as four rescuers. we're told a fifth may go down. there's something to watch for now as he approaches coming back above ground. will they send another
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rescuer down. we're told a fifth one may go down. two have gone down in the last few hours. you got to believe it's probably because the first two down there had been there some time and they're conducting the medical side of things and you got to be sure you're 100 percent sharp down there, and there's got to be significant pressure because the men they're helping have been underground for 69 days, and as one of you mentioned, the whole idea of having to wait in line and wait patiently has got to be something that's on their minds, something that's got to be difficult, knowing you're so close, so close. because the families up here are telling us, we're seven away, eight away, we had one family that had given us the rundown, the last 12 hours, and their number is number 21, so they'll be one step closer when daniel herrera takes that first step out of the capsule, which again, we got any updates on this one? you'll know. jon: it appears the capsule is -- it appears the capsule is right there at the surface. >> [applause] >> jon: and that is his
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brother, daniel herrera's mother, whom we are watching, she's dressed in black, you can see her on your screen. that's his mother, the rescue team, speaking tom, the capsule, just about to burst through that shaft, and he will see daylight for the first time in nearly ten weeks. jenna: it's amazing, if you can imagine being that mother, that family member, that's waited 69 days. adam is standing by and adam, we're taking questions from our viewers and this is related to when we see the capsule come to the top, we're hearing chants and mary oats from austin, texas want to know more about what they're chanting when the miner is brought to the surface. go ahead. >> reporter: yeah, there's two different chants, actually. one, they spell out chile in spanish, the other one is basically chile! they do it in two verses. and at the same time, when they clap and you hear it,
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that's what they are yelling around here, and you hear air horns go off. you can hear the excitement of those above ground, welcoming yet another miner, safe and sound, back home to his family where he belongs. let's listen in to this right now. this is a great moment. >> >> [applause] >> [applause]
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>> [inaudible conversations] >> jon: daniel is 27 years old, about to emerge from that smaller than a phone booth rescue capsule, into the arms of his mother. imagine what she has been thinking over these last ten weeks. perhaps in the early stages, thinking he might have been dead, and now, he is back from the dead. almost literally. jenna: as adam was mentioning to us, this is one of the longest stint that is we've seen. the second longest, we did see a rescuer go down in this capsule before we saw daniel herrera come back up. we don't know the reason it could take longer sometimes, but i'm sure that feels quicker than the 69 days that he was stuck underground. jon: look at that smile. >>
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>> [applause] >> jon: there's the chant that mary oast -- oats asked about from texas. and adam explained it to us. >> [applause] jenna: dr. ablow is staying with us to kind of walk us through some of the different things that might be going through peoples' minds and as we watch these images, dr. ablow, each and every time, it really touches us, thousands of miles away, from a completely different country. there's something about this story that is really striking a nerve. what is it? what are we bringing to the table here, even ourselves, when we're watching this that allows us to feel so connected to these people? >> i think we certainly bring to it our own fear of mortality and these men
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confronting it and overcoming it, but also escame up, this 16th miner now, i was thinking what would you say to somebody that you see when you emerge? you and you know what, they're all saying the same thing, they're saying i love you, right? it's the same thing that they said on the ill fated flight during 9/11, the phone calls that went out, i want you to know, i love you. i think it comes down to that and that's it for us and that's why we bond to this. jon: in the case of this 27-year-old truck driver, daniel herrera, i can think nothing better than a hug from mom when you reach the surface. that's what i'd want, too. >> that's what we all yuan, and these are flawed people, these are people with their own strengths and weaknesses but you know what, when they come home to their family, it's as if they were delivered anew through another birth cabal if you will through the arms of their mom. jenna: and coming back to
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earth, feeling like the center of the universe and being told you got to take out the trash and suddenly you're in real life, what do the families know, those giving hugs, what do they need to know two weeks from now? >> expect almost anything. they look good, you know, but this is my profession and i know people can look good while inside, they're battling. so you got to understand these are people who, if they had potential for addiction before, they have tripled that or maybe a hundred times that, if there were marital problems before, they're still there. they're intensified? probably. maybe reduced, but most likely intensified, and you know what, being an accidental hero is a special thing, because not only do people eventually tell you to take out the garbage, but you yourself eventually become crashing into the reality, listen, why are they kind of paying attention to me in this special way? i don't deserve it in some ways. it feels like artificial to me. so when you go back to work, do you then rejoin that
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world, or do you go back and have a sense of i just don't belong anymore? that's where depression can set in, where you say i've crossed the rubicon, somehow i don't belong anywhere anymore, except maybe in that mine. and that's where a counselor can be so helpful to say listen, you've been reborn for a reason, there are no accidents in the world, this is a new start, that you don't try to cling to the old, make it new. jon: karen from karen from centerville, ohio, she asked these men have become family, supporting one another, how important will it be for them to stay in contact with one another in these early days following their rescue? >> well, i don't think we can enforce that contact, but i would predict it would be very important. look, people gather in veterans' groups, if you're part of alcoholics anonymous, you stay with those people that began as a cohort, these bonds forged underground, need to be respected, and it may than
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for one another they've become kind of a support system. there are limit toss empathy. no one else can truly understand what it means to go to sleep underground on your 60th day, what does that mean. well, thank god there are 32 people on the face of the earth who understand me, each of those men can say. jon: chile is about to send back into the boughs of the earth the capsule, going down to rescue the 17th miner. we'll be back with more coverage ahead. >> so, ah, your seat good? got the mirrors all adjusted? you can see everything ok? st stay off the freewaysall right? i don't want you going out onhose yet. and leave your phone in ur purse, i don't want you texting. >> daddy... ok! ok, here you go.
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jenna: another fox news alert. we have another rescue on our hands, this time it's not in chile, it's in texas instead. this is a water tank in richmond, texas apparently on the property of the for the bend -- fort bend county jail. there was a driver in this water
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tank, and they are trying to rescue him. they sent down some oxygen, apparently, there is a dive team obviously on site. you can see some pictures from our affiliate ktrk right there showing us images of a live rescue in texas, a driver in a water tank. we'll continue to watch the situation and bring you developments as we hear more. jon: fox news alert as we hit high noon on the east coast, hello i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. it's 1pm down in chile where waves of joy flowing from all corners of the earth today for the 33 trapped miners that are gradually making their way to the surface after more than two months underground. think back to what you were doing on august 5th, that was the day, the last time these men saw daylight or enjoyed fresh air until today. one by one they are going to emerge. right now we are awaiting rescue of number 17, that's the first
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minor from group three. adam housley can tell us what that means, he's standing by live in chile. >> reporter: as you were talking just now we saw an amazing scene. behind our camera through a tree unfortunately. the nevada view of daniel herrera the man who just stepped off the capsule not sao long ago opened up a bottle of champagne and sprayed everybody in sight. and yelled out in glee. it was definitely a celebration you like to see, his uncle has stepped above ground for the first time. we saw the capsule go down about two minutes ago. that ride kind of varies. it did not take a rescuer. there are four rescuers down there, they are going to pick up the 17th minor, his name is omar reygada, he's 56 years old. he's been a miner his whole
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life. this is the third time he's been trapped in a mine. he says he's afraid of subterrain yan mines. he probably won't be going back any time soon. we are still in the second group. keep an eye out for potentially health issues. again the nephew of the last man saved is yelling out over there and now the media is running over to him. it's quite a scene out here guys as these rescues continue. they are doing about two an hour. they've had two slow ones, other than that they have two and hour, there is talk about when the fifth rescuer will go down and join the miners that are down 2300 feet below the earth. jenna, jon. jenna: we are getting questions from our viewers. i'd like to ask you this one as well. let me see if i can grab her name. from guenn. we are focused on the surface right now obviously the miners emerging from the darkness. can you talk to us a little bit
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about what the area is in where they are waiting? when they are underground in the mine, what is that area like that they are waiting in before they get in that capsule? >> reporter: we're seeing some pictures. they showed them overnight on fox news. periodically you'll see the camera come up again as the capsule comes down. it gives us the best view of inside the mine. it's very small, the size of a small apartment at most. they were eating lunch at the time of the accident inside a safe room, one that has been built and reinforced in case something was to happen in the mine, that's where the men were supposed to go. they were hr*r there when it happened. this is a pretty small area. we are under the impression that there is a vast network of tunnels they've been able to work out in, one they use as a bathroom. they spread out a little bit as the days and weeks go on. where you see that grainy video
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coming from the camera on the capsule is actually a very small area, and it's very warm down there, much warmer down there and on top. they have to contend with the light for the first time, the change in temperature and pressure. jenna: we are seeing the video as the rescue capsule is trying to head back up. brand-new video from underground. we are so far away. moments ago we were talking about everyone feels so connected to this story and you're right there seeing a miracle happen. what is that like? >> reporter: you know, there is a loss for words. most of us in this industry, losing words is something that doesn't happen very often. it puts the smile on my face every time you see it. you want to root for it and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to. to be able to tell a good story, maybe that is one reason the world has been pulled together by this. so many things have happened over the eight or nine years,
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things that people are challenged with the tsunami, haiti, we were able to tell the story and tell history from the front row, when you tell this history from the front row with positiveness, with smiles on their faces. so far the miners have made it alive. that massive celebration won't take place until every single rescuer steps foot here and that could take place at about 12:00am tomorrow morning. if that does happen without a hitch there will be a celebration in this country like nobody has seen. this is the bicentennial year. they are calling the men as the angels of the bicentennial. and there is talk that october 13th will soon be a holiday if all goes well. jenna: we are awaiting minor number 17, omar reygada. he's 56 years old. the gentlemen with the most children, six children, 14
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grandchildren and three great grandchildren. awaiting him at the surface. we don't know if they are all there, anticipating, their father, grandfather and great grandfather coming home as we await the 17th miners. jon: we are taking your questions in our america is asking town hall fox news news/"happening now." a lot of people are wondering about the texas flag that they see in that shot, wonder if there is a texas role in this rescue. that is a chilean flag. in the loan star -- lone star state we know you like your single star on the blue backdrop. there is an american connection, a company based in pennsylvania, cent tere rock incorporated drilled more than 2,000 feet to help rescue those 33 miners at the san jose mine. laura ingle is live in
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pennsylvania. >> reporter: we are coming to you live from cent tere rock headquarters here in berlin and you are looking at the team of workers that helped to design and manufacture and send down that specialized drill bit to help get these miners out, and we are watching this rescue now as opposed to christmas because of the men in this room. we are watching a live feed that we have provided for the workers to watch on their lunch break as we watch this very exciting day take place. richard was down in chile, you were down there for 37 days, you were part of this, then you come home to watch it, watching it last night, what was it look for you and your men? >> it was unbelievable. it was ike the icing and the cake. we went there to get them out early and see got to see them come out early, unbelievable. >> reporter: the technology being used describe in a. >> high pressure downhole drill precussion drilling tools
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specifically designed to drill hard work. and they had plenty of it down there. >> reporter: i want to introduce you to tom. he has an interesting story. a lot of people in the area remember the mining collapse in 2002 and you were a miner there and now you're working for this company. what's it been like for you watching this. >> it's a good feeling to know that our company can build something that can really work. i mean for a little company all i can say is we do big things. >> reporter: what is going through your mind when you're watching the miners come up. you were in a very similar situation. >> i watched it last night when the first miner came up and it was really good, i mean it was a little hard but you just got to bear with afr -- whatever bytes you. i almost cried. it was hard but we had to watch them and it was good. >> reporter: as we look around the room you guys feeling good about being a part of this, right here in berlin, pennsylvania. the signs are all over the town
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celebrating the workers here at this company for their fine work. we'll send it back to you. jon: you can imagine the pride there in pennsylvania. thanks very much, laura ingle. jenna: as we continue our breaking news coverage around the world we want to take you live to beirut, lebanon, obviously evening over there. this rally is for somebody that well you normally don't find in beirut, lebanon it's the iranian president ahmadinejad. they say he's continuing his, quote, provocative ways. that's the latest coming out of the white house on this situation. obviously the middle east is an area we watch very closely. we heard some great reporting from our fox news journalist in jerusalem and israel just a few weeks ago about the tensions that are rising in the area not only between israel and the palestinian authority but also between israel and lebanon. so we'll continue to watch this rally. if any news breaks coming out of
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beirut we'll bring it to you live. jon: there is some new information on yesterday's court ruling regarding "don't ask don't tell." president obama facing a red, hot political problem after the federal judge ordered them to stop enforcing the ban on gays openly serving in the military. we are waiting to see if the obama administration will appeal the ruling. judge andrew napolitano is our judicial analyst. judge, this is a question that congress and the white house have been considering for a longtime, and it seemed like one of the primary, i guess, hold ups in making some kind of a decision on capitol hill is that people wanted to wait to hear from the military. this judge said i'm not waiting, here is my injunction. >> reporter: well there is a good side and bad side for congress and for the president, jon. the good side is that they don't have to make a decision. if they decide not to appeal
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this, then it will become the law of the land, because this judge did an extraordinary thing yesterday, she issued an injunction against the defense department anywhere in the world from enforcing "don't ask don't tell." so if there is no appeal then there can be no interference with that injunction, and it will remain the law of the land, and the president and congress will be relieved from the obligation of under doing a statute that most of the democrats and the white house say they don't like. on the other hand, the justice department is supposed to, by its obligation under the law, defend the statutes that are enacted by congress, whether the white house agrees with those statutes or not, and one would expect that the justice department would challenge this world-wide injunction, which the judge issued yesterday. jon: it would seem to be the politically easy way out not to challenge the judge's decision, not to make that appeal. >> reporter: right, that would be the easy way out for the
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obama white house, and then this issue goes away and the president gets the ultimate outcome that he wants, which is that "don't ask don't tell" not be a part of the law. jon: judge andrew napolitano our fox news analyst thank you. he'll host freedom watch on the fox business network, saturday 10:00am and 8:00pm eastern time and more on sunday, 7 and 11 eastern time. jenna: he's a father, a grandfather, a great grandfather, he's also minor number 17, we are awaiting him emerging from that deep, dark place underground. we are back live. just south of us not too far away, it feels close today doesn't it watching these miners emerge from the dark. we'll be right back with more on "happening now." you can make it in just 14 minutes. mmmh, orange chicken. great. i didn't feel like going out anyway.
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jon: this fox news alert. we are getting word that two people were injured after that earthquake that struck central
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oklahoma just over two hours ago. 4.5 on the richt tere -- richter scale we are owe told felt as far away as wichita, can as. -- kansas. if you're watching us in wichita and you thought you felt the earth moving a little while ago, you're right. a 4.5 earthquake on the richter scale centered pretty close to norman, oklahoma. one man was on a ladder, unfortunate timing when the earthquake hit and he fell off. a police spokeswoman says she doesn't know the nature of the other injury but it's believed to be minor. the police went out of the building because they thought something smashed into the building like a truck. no other bad effects we've been told about. a 4.5 earthquake hit central oerbgz a couple hours ago. jenna: brand-new route teres
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polls headed into the midterm election. this is just out on really the balance of pour. a few things that jump out of us as we take a look at the polls. one is that the polls predict that republicans will take control of the house with around 227 seats and democrats will keep control of the senate about 52 seats. that is in the polls. so the republicans get the house, the democrats get the senate. here is another part of the poll we thought was important to tell you about, the lowest ever approval rating for president obama since he took office, that at 43%. 48% of likely voters said they would choose a republican candidate at the midterm elections. 44% said they would pick a democrat. very tight to look at congress and the break down there, we are 20 days away from the electionses. again the president's disapproval rating is definitely up, his approval rating obviously down.
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we'll keep you updated. jon: the fox news alert, the rescue of the trapped miners in chile reaches the halfway point as the 16th minor is plucked to safety. the whole world watching the rescue, joyous anticipation. no one has spent that much time trapped underground until now. these 33 miners trapped for 69 days, 2,000 feet under the surface of the earth after tons of rock collapsed around them sealing off the shaft in which they were working. as we speak the rescue capsule no bigger than a phone booth is on its way down to get the 17th miner and bring him to the surface. you will see his re-entry live when it happens. jenna: as we get closer to election day some democrats including president obama are going on the attack, and their new opponent appears to be big business. so is this actually a start strategy? we're going to talk to beater barnes about that, he's joining us from the fox business network
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in d.c. peter attacking business? tell us how that makes sense. >> reporter: well, jenna, instead of a hope and change campaign on the issue this is a smear and fear campaign according to the u.s. chamber of commerce, in particular the allegations by the president that anonymous foreign companies are funding the khaeupl chamber's campaign advertising against the democrats. jondemocrats. >> we don't know if they are being funded by foreign corporations because they are not disclosed. >> reporter: this is an act of desperation, an attempt to change the subject. they clearly don't want to talk about near 10% unemployment. but the president and his advisers are not dopes, they won't be talking about this doing this if they did not think they could score political reports with these attacks. if you dig around in the public polling you can see evidence that this is a hot button issue for some sroerts. in a new bloomberg poll 47% of
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voters said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate whose campaign was aided by advertising from anonymous business groups, the president's exact talking point, 9% in that poll. they would be more likely to vote for that candidate. jenna: peter barnes from d.c. today, thank you, peter. jon: we are keeping an eye on chile as almost half of the 33 miners have already emerged from what had been an underground tomb until early this mourn. we want you to continue to send us your questions about the rescues. we will get you the answers you need ahead on "happening now." ♪
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thousands of home foreclosures. joining us now from tucson, arizona is the attorney general for that state, terry goddard.
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what is the goal of this investigation? >> reporter: this investigation is looking at servicing procedures, in other words the way all of the mortgage lenders and the servicing agencies have handled more closures. now almost four years into this for closer crisis we find that there are still huge irregularities and lots of unfairness that may be consumer fraud in the way customers are being handled. jenna: why did it take for long for us, as you mentioned a couple years, for us to find this out now. >> reporter: we didn't just find it out. the most recent alarm was of course the robo signing program that came to light with a number of companies suspending all of their foreclosure activities because they found so many documents had been improperly prepared and due diligence had not been conducted. we've been working with the lending industry for a longtime. i have sued almost every national bank at one time or
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another as most much my colleagues to try to get some sanity into this mess and make sure homeowners are being treated fairly when they are this most urgent situation, facing foreclosure. jenna: that is one of the questions our viewers have. i know you have a good history of looking into some of these lenders. how long will it take to figure out exactly what is going on with this housing market? >> reporter: i wish i knew. the frustration level is way up here for all of us that are in law enforcement and the banking regulatory agencies. we originally met, it is over four years ago with the major servicers, we said how we can fix this, we see this huge bubble coming and we want to make sure that the folks get a fair shake. i just finished a settlement with wells r-r where -- wells fargo where we came up with very significant financial help. here is the other thing that we had to agree to that they would
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get an answer to a modification request in 30 days that they would stop for closing and modify homes at the same time. that is unfair to everybody. receipt of paperwork would be notified back to the borrower. those are things that should have been happening for the last four years, they are still not happening. that's why the ag's are upset. jenna: there seems to be fault everywhere, the consumers, the government regulators, the lenders. you're in a race for governor against republican jan brewer out there in arizona. just a question about timing. a lot of these topics come up right around election time, they can be politically helpful. if you're not elected governor in 20 days do you drop this? >> reporter: of course not. i've been on this all the time i've been attorney general. this is very important especially in arizona. our economy has been knocked sideways because of the wave of
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foreclosures. we are number two in the nation, just in back of nevada for for closing on homes. it's critical business and we have to get to the bottom of this crisis. the longer the banks continue to refuse to give people answers, treat them badly in the foreclosure process, and it appears from this most recent effort, perhaps illegally in the foreclosure process we need to get that straightened out. i've been working on that for the whole time i've been attorney general, as have my colleagues, but we are still running up against intractable opposition, i don't understand why the banks aren't doing what is clearly, ultimately in their best interest. jenna: we want an answer to some of those questions as well. we appreciate you joining us today on this breaking story of this investigation, 49 different attorneys generals, you being one of them. >> reporter: we hope to finally get some answers. jenna: okay, thank you, sir. jon: fox news alert, breaking news out of afghanistan right now, a new report on nato and
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the taliban, rick folbaum is on the story. >> reporter: this is brand-new evidence that perhaps a peaceful solution to the ten-year-old war in afghanistan is being sought right now. just crossing from the associated press the news wire quoting an unnamed nato official as saying that nato is now involved in helping leaders of the taliban to sit down and have direct talks with leaders of hamid karzai's government. this is the first time we have heard of nato being involved in brokering a del or tp facilitatg any kind of talks. the alliance made up the united states and many countries in western europe. of course this is just the latest. we had heard last month that hamid karzai the afghan president had assembled in his own country a group of officials that he said he wanted to help come about and bring about talks
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between afghanistan and the taliban. that council was dismissed mainly because all the members of that group consisted of anti-taliban people. but maybe now again with the involvement of nato, according to the associated press, this could make the difference as everyone would like to see this ten-year-old war finally brought to a conclusion, jon, ahead of the proposed drawdown of u.s. troops, which is set to start next year. back to you. jon: all right. rick folbaum at the breaking news tke being. jenna: we have numbers for you, 33 miners, 2,000 feet underground for 69 days and number 17 is on his way up. we'll bring you there live back to chile in just a moment. oh, i'll get them to eat veggies. "how?" you ask. i have a way. it's deliciously clever. and they'll be none the wiser. new prego veggie smart sauce gives them 50% of their daily recommended amount of veggies. [laughter] be smart. veggie smart.
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so it will stay strong for our kids and grandkids. now, that's music to my ears. ♪ jon: fox news alert, in less than four minutes if all goes according to plan we will be past the half way point, 16 miners have been rescued from that mine in copiapo, chile and now the 17th is four minutes from coming to the surface. adam housely is live, dr. keith ablow is joining us live in our newsroom. adam, set the scene for us. what's going on there now? >> reporter: yeah, jon, just being told, it's down to one minute. what has happened in the course of this extraction is the video cable which brought us those amazing pictures when the capsule reaches the bottom has been broken. that does not affect the
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actual rescue process. they won't be able to monitor them visually but they'll be able to monitor them audiowise because they have the bluetooth hookup. we're told it's about one minute from appearing at the top up here above ground for the first time, omar reygada will meet his family, he's 56 years old, one of the older miners inside that mine, the third time he's been trapped in a mine, he's been a miner his entire life, six children, 16 grandchildren and three great children, we expect to see omar reygada appear and you'll hear the chant and you'll see the same type of mini celebrations that have been going on jon. it will be past the half way point for miners but we still have distance to go because we have four rescuers down there and a possibility that a fifth will go down, but at this pace, they've picked it up werably over the last four or five hours, but at this
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pace they could potentially finish overnight tonight, something similar we saw last night here when the first person went down and the first person came up just after midnight. that's where we are now. just looking over, jon, to see and everybody is getting crowded around the television and monitoring devices which allows the people here to see what's going on, allows the families to see what's going on, other media members around the glean to see what's going on. it's the raw feed, all coming in from the mine, which is only about 300 yards or so up from the road from where we are now. we are waiting for omar reygada. there was a list, they had a prelim hear -- preliminary list, we're told that changes sometimes down below as the medics determine and i believe jenna read a letter about a man that was rescued two miners past and you hear in the letter about
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how he was basically kwr-g trouble down there and getting ready to home come -- come home. the horns start, he's -- he's up! safe and sound. back to you. jon: adam housely, there live in chile, where this mine rescue is about to pass the half way point. adam, thank you. dr. keith ablow continues to join us. dr. ablow, we're going to continue to watch this. we believe that capsule is going to break the surface any minute now with omar or sometimes also written as osman reygada, the oldest of the miners, we understand. one of our viewers wrote about -- one of our viewers wrote about seasonal effective disorder. >> sure. jon: that's the affliction that hits people, especially in dark climates. all right, they are about to break the surface with that capsule, as we understand it. let's watch. >>
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>> [inaudible conversations] >> >> [inaudible conversations] >> >> [inaudible conversations]
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>> >> [applause] >> [inaudible conversations] >> >> [applause] >> [cheering] >> >> [inaudible conversations] >> jon: we believe this is omar, sometimes called osman reygada. i misspoke when i said he was the oldest. he's actually the miner with the most children. let's watch him as he emerges from that rescue capsule.
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>> [inaudible conversations] >> >> [applause] >> >> [inaudible conversations] >> >> [crowd cheering] >> >> [applause] >> jenna: just want to remind you all about something that mr. reygada that dr. ablow brought up, this man on your screen here has been in three mining
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accidents where he's been trapped underground. fifty-six years old, a career as a miner. now greeting one of his family members. just a spectacular moment to watch. three times? >> jon: three times. >> i wonder whether there's a story behind that, that this man may have been a special resource to his brothers down there. if you have to be trapped with men for more than two months, then you'd want one of them to have been trapped before, sadly, you'd want that experience, and after all, he is the median miner extracted, 16 men on either side of him, we don't know if they intended -- intended that but he's almost the cohesiveness. i sure would think he could provide hope to these people, saying i've been here before, more than once. jon: i made that mistakes mentioning he was the oldest, he's not, but it occurred to me, every individual down there has something that makes them unique, and i mean, it's part of being human and it's
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part of the greatness of this story. thirty-three -- >> 33 life stories, 33 potential sets of weaknesses and strengths, and here we have the flipside of terrorism, right? we have nations aligned to extract 33 individuals. with untold sums of money to do it. why? to return them to their families. the preciousness of human life is here on display, to come bat the terrible taking of human life that we see in other sectors of the world. jon: jenna, knowing that omar has been trapped three times in mine accident, if he's your wife and he says i want to go back to work, what do you say, jenna? >> jenna: that's a good point. i don't know, but if it's someone's calling and deal and that's what they do, i guess that's how you let them live, but look at that, when he came out, we saw him holding up a flag as well, and i'm not sure about that flag, it talks about the unions that the miners are part of but he fell to his knees, it looks like he was holding a bible, right away. we've seen a few miners do
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that. it's a true testament to the resilience of humanity. >> it is. and you know, bravery, and also the routine. this gets to the psyche of those miners going forward, because some of them will not know but what else to do, so that they're confronted with well, this is my routine, i'm a miner, yet, being a miner now means confronting death to me. how do i mitigate these two reality which these done twice before, he's gone back twice. jenna: and there are certain people following this story, a local priest there in this area that says we are missing the point of the story, the story is really about the conditions that some of these miners are working under, each and every day. just want to mention, we believe that might be the soccer flag. jon: the local soccer team. jenna: get your priorities right, god, family, and football! jon: there you go. we're going to be back to chile where this amazing rescue is underway, 17 miners rescued now, they are just over the half way point. we will continue with our coverage, straight ahead, on
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megyn: hey everyone i'm megyn kelly, continuing coverage of these incredible mine recent cues, plus brand new polls spell bad news for the president that have just come out, this as he accuses republicans of fear mongering. fair charge or is he right to be nervous? the "wall street journal" suggests this is the worst recovery ever. what does that mean? and what are police saying about the alleged murder of david hartley now that the chief mexican investigator has been de capitated? you'll hear from them live on the broadcast, 1:00 p.m. see you then. jon: fox news alert and we are continuing to watch one heartwarming reunion after another in chile, 33 trapped miners are one by one making
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their way to the surface. seventeen men are free after more than two months underground. so on "happening now" we want to ask you, america, which questions do you have about what's going on with these miners? sixteen of whom remain to come to the surface. you can e-mail us directly or put your questions on our blog, there's even a twitter account if you like to tweet let's bring in our town hall panel from fox news, from our a team, dr. marc siegl, former astronaut jerry lininger was trapped in space after a fire on board the space station, brandon fisher, president of center rock incorporated, the company that drilled the rescue shaft down to those miners in chile. brandon, let's start with you. one of the questions, and i hope you can answer this, is about the cable. we had a class watching --
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well, actually, this one is not from a science class, is it, jenna. i'm confused. but some of our viewers have been asking, is that cable strong enough that they're going to be able to send it down and bring it back up 33 times or are they going to have to replace that cable at some point? >> well, i was involved with the kpweuplt and -- equipment and consulting of the drilling process. to answer specific questions with regard to the hoisting system, it's going to be difficult, but i can assure you that cadelco put a tremendous amount of research into the system that they're using and i'm quite certain that it's capable of hoisting all 33 of those guys out of the ground. jenna: we have a lot of great questions, including what happens to the last guy on there, how do he close that rescue capsule, to the questions about the health and psychology of the miners. we'll be back with our panel in a moment to answer your questions america. thank you very much, we'll be back in a moment.
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jenna: back to the miracle of these miners in chile coming up, one by one, we're back with our panel for america's asking town hall, your questions about this event and this one for you dr. siegl, doing from dee rizzo, i don't know if he's a she or he but he wants to know about the sunday glasses that the miners have to wear, how long do they have to wear them and how dark do they have to be because they've been in dark 69 days. >> it's a great question. we started off in the middle of the night, it of the middle of the night in chile and they still had the sunday glasses because even the artificial light was enough to cause a problem. now in the middle of daylight, it's more of an issue. they're going to have to wear those sunday glasses for several hours afterwards so their eyes can slowly accommodate back to the light, otherwise there will be eye damage done.
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jon: what about the counseling for the family members? i mean, the men themselves, the miners themselves, have received some counseling already underground via speaker phone and so forth. what about their families? >> the good news is nine out of ten are going to be just fine because we're built for daily life, so if they're coming up and they're going to be part of a routine, if they have children waiting, if they have parents, families, that's going to signal both the brain and the body that they're needed and they will get right back into the swing of things. one out of ten are going to have a big problem adjusting, and everybody who's been in an experience like that, where they have lost a sense of control, is going to have up to two years for the brain to really readjust and digest what happens, so there will be hypervigilance, problems sleeping, probably a lot of talking about it but what's going to save them is not only their family, but they shared it with each other, so they can go through the recovery together.
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somebody will understand. because they were right there with them. jenna: they had all the fellow miners with them, as you mentioned so appropriately, dr. wicken, and jerry is with us and we have a great question from a woman, kathy, from washington, wanting to ask about the chances that these men are going to return to mining. and you were an astronaut, you got stuck in an emergency situation in space, you wanted to go up there after that happened? >> i'd go up there again. if i could get to mars, i'd be in mars in a heart beat. it's an incredible thing looking down at the earth, god's creation, down there, you know, it's absolutely phenomenal. jenna: but a near death experience like these men -- >> in my case, i thought this is worth my life and i think most aus naught -- astronauts feel that. you are doing something representing mankind, i was honored and a was a pure privilege to do it, had a few shuttle flights, those are wonderful, the russian space station, i probably wouldn't go back to that
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again, we had a lot of failuse, one after another. jenna: fire in space is never easy to deal with. >> you are cut off like the miners. it's the equivalent. i feel for them. it's the same situation. up in the heavens, you're removed from mankind, in the boughs of the earth, same thing. jenna: do you have quick advice for them? >> i did send advice, i told them what they were doing, come out with their chests held high and pride and realize, you know, they're representing mankind when they come out of that thing and we're all pulling for them, even astronauts in the united states, and realize we've got good stuff inside, it's good, solid dna, we're survivors, we can get through these types of things. jon: one of the questions that many people have been asking is something that resulted while these men were under ground, and apparently, it was not known before, but one of the men who is married also has a girlfriend on the surface, and a lot of people have been asking, you know, of the family members who have
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been invited, who's there to greet him when he comes to the surface, the girlfriend or the wife. hate to be indelicate, but you know these things happen and according to our adam housely who is there on the ground, the wife said let her go, let her go when he emerges, i don't need to be there. ouch! dr. wicken, how do you handle that one? >> well, certainly, it's going to mean a big redefinition, for everybody who is underground. it's a time to reevaluate generally family life and even values about family more. what i would feel bad about, if this miner comes up saying i'm never going to be unfaithful again and there's his wife going too late. jon: yeah. jenna: well put dr. wickens. that was well handled. we have a question for brandon as well. brandon, we have a science class watching us now and they had a great question, if you are still with us.
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>> yes, i'm still here. jenna: the question is coming from cumberland county high school, from the science class, is what happens to the last person? can they actually get themselves in the capsule and lock it so they can appropriately be lifted back up? do you know anything about that? >> yeah, well, from what i've seen of the rescue capsule, it does differ from what i was used to at kew creek, but it's amazing the technology that they were able to put into this capsule and in a very quick time. from what i can understand, the bottom and the side, there's a side egress, as well as a bottom exit or entrance, whatever you want to call it. both of those can be closed by the miner. so i really don't think there's much of a concern as to whether that miner is going to need assistance. i know one of the concerns was whether the capsule was able to pass completely through the ceiling of the mine, and it was nice to see
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they did make it long enough that entering back up through that hole is not going to be a problem. jon: brandon, real quickly, let's stick with you for this question, how big is that chamber that they are in underground? i mean, i know you've been on the surface, your company punched that hole down to the chamber, but how big is it? >> it's surprisingly large. the chamber, the room where the rescue is being taken place, the target that we hit, it's approximately 15 feet tall, width varies, dependent on where the pillars or columns are in the mine. to give you an example, there are approximately 2000 feet walking distance away from where they're sleeping, so the area that these guys have to live in, i guess that's one good thing and one plus, is it is very large, and i think that's really kept these guys alive was the volume of oxygen in that large chamber. jon: all right. >> for 17 days.

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