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would be like saying those black panthers are representative of all african-americans. it doesn't work that way >> sean: thanks for being with us. greta is next. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. >> greta: did you see what happened to bill o'reilly? or should we ask, what did bill do this time? >> what are you talking about. >> muslims killed us on 9/11! >> oh my god. >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? >> extremists! >> mr. mcveigh -- he was an extremist -- [ talking over each other ] >> i don't want to sit here. i'm done. >> you are outraged about discussion. [ applause ] >> greta: that's nothing. it gets wilder. wait until you see what barbara walters does.
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we'll show you more. bill o'reilly himself will go on the record. >> just a few hours ago, florida federal judge roger vincent gives 20 states a green light. a green light to go ahead with their lawsuit against president obama's health care law. attorney general mccollum is leading the charge. he joins us live. good evening sir. >> it is a pleasing day. >> greta: you didn't win everything but you won a number of important things. tell us what you won? >> we won the right to go forward in this case and present our claim that the unconstitutionality of the obama health care legislation in two areas. one there is no he rated power in the constitution that allows the government to say if you are -- ing television you have to buy a health insurance plan or pay a penalty. and two, the government can't in violation of the 10th amendment coerce the states to
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get them to paid decisional medicaid expenses they didn't agree to. those are the central issues we had and they stay and go forward to the summary judgment stage which will be we think the final stage in federal court when the judge hears this case in december. >> greta: you move forward. the fact is at this stage it is a flimsy standard. it was in all likelihood that you would go forward on those counts. doesn't mean the judge is going to rule your way come the end of the story, right? >> i'm confident he is going to. especially with regard to the individual mandate. if you read his order today the way he discusses that portion in particular. it seems to me he's putting the federal government on notice, the justice department they've got to come in and persuade him otherwise. of course he's not saying that he's ruling today and he didn't. he withholds judgment until he gets the summary judgment area. he didn't discuss much the
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medicaid issue except to say why he thinks there's a case to be stated. that we presented a cause of action and right to be there. he shows he understands the problems we face and recognizes there is a legal precedent there is a basis in law for the arguments we are making. and he very well could decide this and the supreme court could decide this in our favor, which we think they will. >> greta: i'll tell you what is going to enrage americans if they go through this. one is the political versus the legal. the political side is the politicians did not want to call the individual mandate a tax. they ran from that with the house of representatives, senate, the president, no one who voted for this wanted to call it a tax. that was a fate worse than death. now move ahead to your lawsuit and suddenly, the justice department lawyers are insisting that it is a tax. explain why the politicians and now the lawyers are
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arguing two different things? >> they don't have a very good case in order to say that the individual mandate, this require to buy the health insurance policy is covered by the commerce clause. which is what they passed the law saying. that's what they tried to say in the bill and what judge vincent said is the only thing they have to stand on here. they have a weak case in that regard. they've got to come to some indirection conclusion because you are not buying health insurance and you may have to have services at a hospital or get a doctor and you might not be able to afford to pay you might be part of the drain on the rest of the public that you are in some way acting directly in commerce. they made an argument in court in is a tax. the judge said clearly, that he doesn't see how this is a tax at all. >> greta: it is even more obnoxious to the ordinary american in terms of how the sausage is made. if it is a tax, as the lawyers
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want it now, you can't be suing, if it is a tax. with the taxes you have to wait until the tax is imposed, which would be 2014. you pay the tax and sue to get it back, you can collect it. that's why the lawyers now want it to be called a tax. if it is a penalty you can go forward. now the justice department lawyers are saying the politicians didn't say it is a tax, oh yeah it is a tax! didn't you know it was a tax? that's why you the states can't sue because it is a tax. lawyers insist on calling it a tax and the judge said this is no tax i'm going with what the politicians said this was. they are not going to reinvent it in order for a legal articlement. >> he wrote it well. -- we argued that we don't have to sustain that. that if it were a tax it is a direct tax something the constitution provides for which has never been done by congress.
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we don't have to get there. this judge said what we thought he should say that is, it is pretty darn clear when you read the law and all the history on this legislation that this isn't a tax. that it is a penalty under the commerce clause and that is where we do our best. because we know there is no he rated power -- enumerated power giving congress the . >> greta: whether you say it is a tax or commerce clause issue, if it is gutted. if the individual mandate is gutted even though it is a 2700 page bill, that is the end of the story that was the way this whole bill was going to be funded. if that mandate goes, does everything else have to go? >> everything else is going to go. there is no severable clause -- severeability clause. it is also true, that if the individual mandate guess it is the centerpiece about which the rest of this was built.
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even those who are the proponents of this legislation know it doesn't work without this forcing people to buy health insurance. we don't think it will work many of us any way but they don't believe it will either if the mandate is not there. this is the key provision. it is important us to to have the other provision on medicaid. we as states cannot afford this. we are being compelled to do something we can't get out of. we are pleased both are going forward. clearly, the individual mandate is the issue that the supreme court ultimately will decide this case on. maybe on both points. certainly on that one. i think favorably to news a close decision. probably in i guess 2012. growth farther ahead state of florida, state of virginia, monday argument on the summary judgment we are going to go down and watch. attorney general cuccinelli will join us monday. both lawsuits are fascinating. michigan a lawsuit decided it the other way. we are monitoring all of these.
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certainly is going to have an enormous impact on each one of us. attorney general, thank you. >> thank you, appreciate it, great day. >> greta: next, senator licensee graham is here. he has a fight on his -- senator lindsey graham is here. has a fight on his hands. speaking of fights. this tops it all. did you hear who is trying to take on arizona governor brewer? 11 latin american countries coming at her in court. is she worried? governor brewer is here. she has announcement. >> more video of bill o'reillyly -- wild dust up on the view. aren't you sick of these airline credit cards that advertise flights for 25,000 miles? but when you call... let me check. oh fud, nothing without a big miles upcharge. it's either pay their miles upcharges or connect through mooseneck! [ freezing ] i can't feel my feet.
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>> greta: president obama is getting flit all sides. it is not just states battling the health care law.
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lindsey graham just signed something he calls the citizen's prescription. senator graham joins us live. what is your news about health care? >> what i want to do is allow people to have a say about health care. this bill was passed behind closed door. it was a sleazy process. i've got an idea with senator barrasso from wyoming. growth gloat is a doctor. >> who is a doctor. basically, you can sign at l graham.senate.gov. you can ask for your state to opt out we want the states to have a say as to whether the individual mandate, medicaid expansion should happen in your state. you would get to speak, not the politicians. we are going to introduce legislation next year to allow every state to opt-out if they choose. >> greta: isn't it too late for that? >> it is never too late.
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this bill is just getting started. they promised it would lower costs. premiums are going up 8.8% next year. everything around this bill has been a fraud. an they are attacking it in court. i would love to have the american people have a say about whether or not they want to be in the individual mandate, employer mandate or have medicaid expand. in my state it could cost south carolina one billion dollars in the next self -- seven years to add to this bill. 29% in south carolina will be on medicaid if this bill becomes law. >> greta: what are the democratic members of the senate what do they say in light of the reaction the american people, a lot of american people, rise in premiums -- >> you believe in the marketplace? done you believe in competition? how many years have you dominated the 10:00 hour? >> 8 1/2 years, 101 straight months, not that i'm counting.
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>> marketplace determines the value you have at 10:00. the reno democrat is running around this -- the recent no democrat is tryingnto sell this bill, how many ads have you seen by democrats that said i voted for the(/ obama health care bill and i'm proud of it. >> greta: i know it is zero. do they say that to you? >> the special deal says it all the deal for louisiana. she knew it was bad for louisiana. she a special deal. the cornhusker kickback, deal for florida. certain senators understood it was bad for their state so they carved out special deals. i want to give everybody in the country a chance to get a deal for their state. opt-out of this before it too late. 2014 is too late. we have plenty of time, if congress will allow the people to speak i'm confident most states will?kh opt-out of this bill. >> greta: do you ever hear
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from the white house? >> no. this has been a lemon. the reno one is talking about why they voted for the bill and running away from the bill, is because it doesn't pass the smell test. it didn't do what it promised. it has been a fraud from the beginning. the way it was passed says all you need to know about the substance. if it was that good a bill why couldn't you get one republican? why did you do it behind closed doors? >> greta: the ones who voted for it why aren't they bragging about it? it is a horrible political thing, it is terrible -- >> terrible for our economy. >> greta: if no politician is willing to run on it, we ought to have the courage to take another look. >> we ought to allow the individual states to say do i want to be part of this when it comes to the individual mandate -- [ talking over each other ] >> greta: if you are out of the individual mandate -- we need everybody to be in the pool that's the whole thing -- >> what we need is a chance to speak about -- >> greta: that's something
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different. if you opt-out you are going to create a lot of resistance. >> my view is that i want more people to be covered than are covered today less covered by the government. >> greta: i still want a multiple choice for the members who voted for it to see if they know what is in it. >> the reason they are not trying to sell it is because people are not buying it. >> greta: every time you read another page you read another bad thing. >> it has added to the debt. premiums were supposed to go down by $2,000 per person, 8.8% increase. a chance to sign a petition will take to the congress. we have a comment section tell me why you are signing the petition. i will go to the floor and read your comments and try to get my colleagues to give you a chance to vote on this bill. >> greta: senator, thank you.
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growth has bill o'reilly ever called you a pinhead or patriot? earlier went on the record about his new book pinheads and patriots, where you stand in the age of obama. bill, pinheads and patriots. >> you bet. >> greta: what's a pinhead? >> bill: somebody who doesn't think clearly. >> greta: am i a pinhead? >> >> bill: sometimes. everybody is a pinhead sometimes. a patriot is somebody who puts their country and other people ahead of themselves. >> greta: always? >> nobody does that always. but as a basic philosophy, that you are not number one, other people and your country are either get the same consideration as you or more. that's a true patriot. >> greta: when i hear pinhead the first thing i think about is bill o'reilly what made you
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use it on your show? >> let me get this straight you think of me? >> greta: i don't think you are a pinhead. >> some of your audience might have picked that up. that word has been around since the 50s, pinhead. it is a good harmless description of somebody who is not bringing the intellect to the discussion. i just adopted it as something -- everybody knows in the media what you are talking about. to our list. president obama, pinheads and patriots? >> i wrote the book with a specific goal in mind. that's why i put him and me on the cover. after you finish the book you can say who is the pinhead and patriot? and you know. i put that in there to remind people of what he said and what he's done. i think it is a very, very, i a letter today from a big news executive who said i'm really glad you did that. because nobody could remember the interview but it is now in
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print. here's what he said in campaigning, here's what he's done. very important to know. >> greta: one controversial thing during the campaign. what you talk about in the transcript reprinted in the book. you asked about reverend wright. were you satisfied with his answer? >> no. i don't think anybody is. reverend wright is an anti-american guy he's a pinhead. i don't think reverend wright ever gets out of the pinhead status. he's a permanent pinhead. so, when barack obama has such a close association with such a pinhead, then i think it is incumbent upon him to explain the association. which he really never did. i understand politically that was probably a smart move, because he wanted to get away from that. but, you know, if i'm sitting there in my church and if pastor is saying stuff that your country is terrible. it is racist, it is this, it
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murders people. i'm not in that church very long. there's really no excuse for that. i'll find another church. >> greta: christine o'donnell running for senate in delaware. is she a pinheads and patriots? >> i don't know her. you can answer that question better than it. >> greta: i've only met her once. >> i've really never spoken to the woman. it is not fair to describe somebody unless i really have researched them. i have not really researched her. >> greta: governor sarah palin pinheads and patriots? >> i think she a patriot? i think she loves her country. i think she has taken a tremendous pounding to espouse her beliefses. so i think she a patriot. >> greta: vice president biden? >> patriot devotes his whole life to service. takes a pounding. doesn't seem to be mean spirited. i would put him in the patriot
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category. >> greta: is it fun to write a book? >> what's the matter with you. it is painful! >> greta: why do you do this? >> you do it for money. there's an enormous amount of money -- >> greta: there's more money in being an anchor than writing a book. >> you can walk and chew gum at the same too. chewing gum is writing the book i have to do it at night when everybody is asleep. but it is painful. bold fresh brought a lot of entertainment to a lot of people. this book if you read it you will know what is going on in the country and how it affects you directly. >> greta: glenn beck has been on tour with you. pinhead or patriot? >> thursdays and fridays he's a pin led. the rest of the week he's -- -- hint pedestrian. the rest of the week he's a patriot. beck makes mistakes sometimes, so do you. do so do it. i like beck i think he's
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sincere not a phony bone in his body. number two, he think he serves a purpose. he's like norm in cheers the guy who sits at the bar stool and says what's on his mind. i want more of those kinds of people in the media rather than these pinheads in washington who are a bunch of phony spin merchants. so i've much prefered beck that's why i've adopted him, almost like a cocker spaniel. >> greta: you mentioned tony snow as being a great patriot. tony was the best. this is my last question who is the ultimate patriot who you admire, living? >> i think president bush and president obama in the sense they put themselves out there for their country, like them or not. i would even throw president clinton in to some degree and president carter. i'm very tough on carter in this book by the way. these guys, i think they tried.
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i do, i think they tried. so, at that level, you can't just imagine what they go through. i think we have to respect that >> greta: is there any chance you will run for office? >> i'm not that big of a pinhead. >> greta: it is a great book. pinheads and patriots thank you. >> thank you greta. >> greta: you just saw bill o'reilly on the record. no one bolted. bill o'reilly on "the view" that was bloody. we'll show you everything that happened. >> arizona governor brewer is here with anment and she gm>lúgsó>=xw
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>> greta: governor brewer went on the record with an announcement. governor, nice to see you. >> nice to see i greta. >> greta: governor you have mexico, argentina, bolivia,
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brazil, chile, paraquay, per right are, they are all against you -- peru, they are all against you on sb-1070. you've asked to spoken are they going to let you respond? >> -- i got breaking news. five minutes ago we just found out the court denied my request to respond to their brief. so, we were disappointed that they took that position. it is unbelievable they would allow mexico and 19 other latin american countries to file on behalf of -- i guess along with the president of the united states andy night us to respond. we've been denied. -- and
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>> has court of appeals said they are in or they just haven't let you be part of dispute? >> no, they are allowed to file and they will file, if they haven't already filed. they are allowing them to file the amicus brief. >> greta: you seem to be racking up opponents. >> no kidding. arizona feels a little under the assault gun currently. it is unbelievable that this is taking place the way that it is. there we go again. we are not going to give up. we're gonna continue moving down our path. i think in the end arizona and the rest of the country will win on this. >> greta: are the arguments coming up soon on the merits, next week is that right? >> i couldn't hear you. >> greta: the arguments are colling up , they are going to
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have a court hearing soon? >> yes, we will in the 9th circuit the day before he -- the day before the election. >> greta: are you going, i know you have a lawyer arguing on behalf of you and the state, but are you going to go? >> absolutely. i will not miss it. i understand they are going to try to get it on c-span. >> greta: good luck on that. federal courts don't like the american people to see what is going on. i guess they don't like us to see how the sausage is made. let's talk about the election. how are your numbers? >> oh my numbers are looking pretty fabulous, as far as i'm concerned. we just got notification today out of a poll of likely voters near arizona and i'm leading by about 17 points. that makes me happy. >> greta: your attorney general isn't happy he wants you to debate him again. you are not going to? >> no, absolutely not. i'm not going to allow mayo
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known to reinvent himself. he's had his opportunity. like me he has served the people of arizona for almost along. people know who he is and what stands for and they know who jan brewer is and i will take my message to the voters in a different venue. >> greta: one of the things i do when we have guests on, one of the controversies i've read in arizona someone has put on the internet that you have a health problem. your campaign has responded back to say you do not have a health problem and it is dirty politics. first question, do you have a health problem? and secondly what going on in this race? >> it has become pretty nasty to state least. the fact of the matter is, i'm just fine. imperfectly fine. it has gotten to the point now where we are talking about ridiculous irrelevant things in the campaign and it is unfortunate because i believe the voters deserve the opportunity to talk about issues and where we stand and
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where we want to take this state. i'm going to continue doing that. i hope that election day rolls around really quick, because it has been a little grueling. >> greta: any message to president calderon of mexico? he has said things directed at your state about sb-1070. now with the latest investigation into the hartley decision appearance, maybe execution, we don't know for sure. any message for president calderon? >> my message to him? >> >> greta: yes. >> well, i would tell the president of mexico we would like to see him stand up and help us solve the problem, not only for arizona, but for mexico. there are -- they are our neighbors. we do a lot of commerce across the border. we need to get this problem resolved and solved. it could be of great help. >> greta: we'll be anxiously watching to see was in the 9th circuit. it would be a huge win for all the american people if we get
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cameras in that federal courthouse. no witness, no jury it would give us a opportunity to see an important debate. i'm not going to hold my breath. we'll be watching election day. i hope you come back after the argument in the 9th circuit. >> i'd love to greta, thank you very much. >> greta: thank you, governor. >> next, former secretary of state, condoleeza rice. here's a blunt question, does she regret the invasion of iraq? secretary rice is next. >> o'reilly goes on "the view." view." joy and whoopi walk off etfs? exchange traded funds? don't give me just ten or twenty to choose from. come on. td ameritrade introduces commission-free etfs with a difference-- more choice. over a hundred etfs.... ...chosen by the unbiased experts at morningstar associates. let me pick what works for me. for me. for me. the etf market center at td ameritrade. before investing, carefully consider the fund's investment objectives, risks, charges, and expenses.
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be able to resume their normal lives. and most are expected to head home tomorrow. a federal judge in florida ruling that a legal challenge to the health care overhaul can go forward. the judge saying he wants to hear arguments over it's constitutional to force citizens to buy health insurance. a federal judge in massachusetts threw out a similar lawsuit last week. in asia, the nikkei is down and the hang seng is down to 37747. and dow jones futures are up at 11057. fox business network giving you the power to prosper. >> greta: this is a fox news alert. he might be here. a terrorist operative could be in the united states. sores are telling fox news the pakistani taliban which orchestrated the failed times square bombing may have successfully placed another operative in the united states. there's no information where
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that operative may be in the united states or where that attack may be attempted. stay with fox news for more on this developing and disturbing story. >> former secretary of state condoleeza rice goes on the record about her new book, "extraordinary ordinary people, a memoir of family." madame secretary, nice to see you. >> nice see you. >> greta: congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> greta: i took away from it that you idolized your parents and they idolized you. >> we had a special relationship. i had parents who gave me unconditional life, no better gift and a strong foundation of education and faith and family. i could never have for more. >> greta: if the end of the book, i know it wasn't meant to be sad. oh how i missed them at the inauguration i ached to have them watching george w. bush take office and ushering me moo the white house and when i
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landed in moscow in a plane that simply said the united states of america. >> when your parents are gone, unfortunately, both of mine are, it is those moments when something special happens and you want to call and say, gee, wind that great? or you want to reach out and say what did you think of that? that's where the barrier of death is there. as i go on to say, most of the time i feel their presence. i know they are there with me and that's a wonderful feeling too. >> greta: they got to see you sitting next to gorbachev. >> he did although he was quite ill. they got to see a lot of my development and i'm grateful for that my mother died when i was 30. she first had breast cancer when i was 15. i'm glad she got to see me grow up and become a professor. they got to see a lot of the accomplishments that i made.
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>> greta: we see public figures, we all know you were going to become the national security adviser for president bush 40 three what i didn't know is a week before you buried your father. >> my dad died december 24th, 2000. in january 2001, i left to become national security vicer. i was ironic. i've wondered, -- my dad was very ill. i told president bush that i wasn't sure i could go to washington.d) i wasn't going to leave my father in that state. president bush, the bushes, understand family, more than they understand anything else. he said we'll work it out. you can go back to california every couple you have weeks or whatever. i knew that wasn't going to be practical, but i was determined to be with my father. when my father died, i've always wondered, did he somehow do that, one last act so i would fulfill my dreams. because it wasn't very long
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after that, that i had to leave. i almost didn't write in the book, that has crossed my mind, that he gave up the ghost, so to speak, just as i left, knowing that maybe it was time to let go. frankly, greta, it would have been just like him. >> greta: i sort of got that from reading the back. i know you were torn between staying out in california to take care of your father and starting a new job. and having a sick patient is very difficult. it almost seemed like it was an act of liberation so he could let his daughter achieve this. >> right. i still to do this day hope not because i would rather have had my father. i also think that it would have been just like john w rice to say time to let her go. i loved them for that. they were so special, so supportive. they weren't step ford parents. you can get the ice skated i
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my parents would have been very happy not to have me do 15,000 different things because they were always driving me from place to place. >> greta: and expensive. >> and i was an expensive kid. none of us recognize when we are that young the sacrifices that our parents are making. this book has allowed me to go back and think about the sacrifices they made. >> greta: i found it very painful to read like in the early days traveling where you go from for instance alabama north and you couldn't -- there were hotels you couldn't stay in because african-americans weren't allowed. banks you couldn't use, because they were segregated. being white, it was painful, to read that. >> well, my parents were people who kept their dignity, despite that. even my grandparents kept their dignity despite it. my mother's sister told me
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when they were kids, their father would never let them use a colored only restroom. he would say wait until you get home. he tried to keep a car because he didn't want anybody to ride in the back of the bus. sometimes parents and grandparents in the south tried to pretend as if that world wasn't there. in the final analysis, they couldn't. segregation was all around us. what is remarkable is the degree to which they reacted to those circumstances with dignity and with determination, rather than somehow being beaten down. my parents and their parents never believed in victims. >> greta: you say the reason why you are a republican at one point in the book, is you would rather be ignored than patronized. >> i said that several years ago. i don't feel ignored by my party any longer. in a sense the republican party has a message, a good message really that i think african-americans should hear.
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but maybe we don't always say it in a way this it can be heard. if we believe that individuals, not the group matters. we ought to be saying that. i was always uncomfortable with identity politics, the women, the minors, the poor. because it seemed to lump -- the minorities, the poor, because it seemed to lump everyone together and not except that individuals could make a difference even within their circumstances. i didn't like the sense of victimhood that doesn't say the republican party has always been as good as it should be in reaching out to diverse communites. >> greta: what do you think of reverend wright? i was stunned by the things that he said. i did civil rights work for years as a lawyer. i was stunned by the things he said. >> i was stunned by those things doe too. we don't need people engaging in hate speech. a lot of that was hate speech. >> >> greta: nonetheless, we
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still hear a lot of that. >> we do. we hear too much of it, frankly from people of all colors. i think that if we could just get to the place that we turn down the volume a little bit every time we are talking about something that is difficult and that has the potential to divide us. we are still a country that has a long history about race. we are a country that has this birth defect of slavery. race is still a very sensitive subject in america. it brings out the worst in people, if you are not careful.r5qú:ñ sometimes i think in a heated conversation it brings out the worst in us. >> greta: do you miss the act of washington? >> no, no. it is nice to be able to get up and read the newspaper and say isn't that interesting and put it away and go off to my day. >> greta: you don't miss it at all? >> i miss the people. sure, i miss some of the opportunity to try and do something. but you know, i'm back, i have
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my eight years, eight years is a really longtime. i'm back being a professor at stanford, i love that. i love opening up the world to kids in the way that professors opened up the world to me i'm very happy. >> greta: you were gone once before. you worked in the president bush 41 add straeufgs, you were gone and came back. -- administration, you were again and came back. >> what is better than having been secretary of state? that's the best job in government. i've already done that. i think i will stay in california. help out in california. i'm trying to help out in public policy and the public life in california. i'm very involved in k-12 education. involved in political matters out there. it is a great place to live. >> greta: it is a great book, it is fun. we see so much of public figures but we never get to know them. i don't wish anyone misfortune like sick parents or something. when we see public figures have their own personal
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struggles, it puts a new dynamic on it. the whole issue of even the segregation, the things that had you to face head-on early on in your life. tough. >> it is a time that seems a long time ago but it really wasn't that long ago. what it says to me is this country has come a long way. when i was out at secretary of state and advocating for democracy for the iraqi people or the afghan people, and people would say, but they are not doing this and they are not doing that. i would say america more than any country in the world ought to be patient with the development of democracy. america more than any other country in the world ought to know how hard it is to get people to live together in democratic institutions. we there. and i think around the world we'll -- people will too. i was a great way to take on that role. >> greta: any regrets about going into iraq? >> saddam hussein was a cancer
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good he is gone. >> greta: no regrets on weapons of mass destruction? >> sure i wish the intelligence had been better. he was a dangerous man and the middle east is better off without him. i will never forget the lives that were lost. the people who were maimed. something always of us who were involved with will have to live with. i believe nothing of value is earned without sacrifice. i believe iraqis will take the chance. when iraq's first real arab democracy in the mideast is going to make it a very different mideast something we all should look forward to. >> greta: madame secretary, thank you. i urge the viewers to read the book it is a great read. >> thank you. >> greta: check out the entire interview with secretary rice at gretawire.com.
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>> greta: here's the best of the rest. we just can't stopwatching it.
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bill o'reilly locking horns with the ladies of "the view" followed by a walk-out. >> 70% of americans don't want that mosque down there. so don't give me the we -- >> i want to see that poll. [ applause ] >> i'll show that you poll in a minute. >> why aren't we saying -- >> it is inappropriate. >> why is it inappropriate. >> muslims killed us on 9/11! >> oh my god. >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? is that what you are saying? >> the extremists. [ talking over each other ] >> 70% of the country -- >> i don't want to sit here, i'm done. [ cheering ]
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>> i want to say something -- i want to say something to all of you. you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. i love my colleagues. this should not have happened. >> greta: all right, well any way, joy and whoopi came back to the set. things did calm down a bit. there you have the best of the rest. >> still ahead, president obama must be desperate for economic advice, really, really desperate. stay tuned. ♪ ♪
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>> greta: 11:00, its almost here, flash the studio lights. it's time. last call. the mine rescue in chile captivated the world but this? we hadn't heard it. >> president obama was actually watching some of the rescue efforts on tv today and he said he just wanted to see how he dig people out of a giant hole in other countries. >> greta: thank you jimmy fallon for that report. that is your last call. finally check out the white house, should we say the pink house? yes. it's breast cancer awareness month. the white house is doing it'