>> national organization of women changing their mind once again. that nasty word used by jerry brown's camp right on. is this really representing women's rights? what about that organization? "fox & friends" starts right now. >> i know i'm ready to go this morning. >> yeah. i had my vanilla ice going last night, yesterday and the day before. >> when there's something to dance about. look what you just had. >> that's something to dance about, closing time. also, we'll tell you very, very shortly. we've got -- we don't know if they were dancing in the streets in either of the camps out in nevada last night but it was a -->> i watched some of that. >> i did, too. >> i'm waiting for harry reid to watch his notes to close up. i know i have them here somewhere. there you go. >> in the meantime, we have to give you some headlines because we have a fox news exclusive.

we have confirmed the pakistani taliban may have an operative in the u.s. right now waiting to attack. it's believed the terror group wants to make up for the botched bombing in times square. counterterrorism officials are very concerned about this attack. but they do not know when or where the operative is or what the potential target will be. >> the search for an american man killed by mexican pirates suspended now. mexican officials telling a local newspaper their search for david hartley's body is temporarily on hold until you can come up with a new strategy for their investigation. they hope to start working again in a few days. for the first time in 10 weeks, the chilean miners are going home. first three were released from the hospital late last night and the rest expected to leave today. the 12th miner rescued was first out the door. pena who was ran every day underground. he was invited to run the new york city marathon next month. >> wonder if it's going to be

nike under armour that steps up for him. air quality will be much better. the vietnam era soldier was 79, he is dead and received the medal for leading his army vietnam infantry out of an ambush in 1967. because of his actions, most of the company survived. he was on his third combat tour at the time and later returned for a fourth. mcenerney explained his heroism by saying he was a professional soldier and it was his job. >> watched this debate last night and i saw the part of harry reid. and harry reid said -- i watched a few minutes to see if i could tolerate it. >> tolerate it. >> he said my good friend george bush. you called him a loser and said everybody knows the war is lost. right there, you say to yourself what else is he going to say? could it be based on fact? >> the reinvention of harry

reid. it was 60 minutes and two candidates who agreed on nothing. sharon angle came out and she was singing. she said i'm going to show you on we're different. she went on to repeat the abysmal results and then they tangoed toe to toe, head to head on stuff like this. >> i believe my number one job was to create jobs as united states senator. >> harry reid, it's not your job to create jobs. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector. to create those jobs. >> insurance companies don't do things out of the goodness of their hearts. they do it out of a profit motive and they've almost destroyed our economy. >> america is about choices and we need to allow people to have those choices. the free market will weed out those companies that don't offer us many choices and don't have a cost effective system. >> all right. so the two accusations against

each other, angle told reid to man up at one point about social security. he called her extreme on the other side. but he threw relatively few punches. that was probably his advice going up against a female candidate. why would he say he's friendly with george bush? he brought up justice scalia, widely considered the most conservative judge on the panel. why would he align himself with these folks? could it be he's looking for that independent vote that right now is going to sharon angle. >> just expanding what he was saying about jobs, this is sharon angle, arguably her finest moment. it's to create an environment where people can create their own jobs and businesses. no, government does create jobs. the hoover dam. we already built that, ok? federal projects like that. see, there is clearly the problem. that's the big debate in a very small debate and that is he

usually thinks he's got to create jobs where sharon is going no, no, we want to give other people the opportunity to start their own businesses. maybe that is why unemployment is at 14% and perhaps something else which i find fascinating. how did the guy who spent his entire life in public service on government salary become so rich? >> ask that very question and see what he said. >> you came from searchlight to the senate with very little. now, you're one of the richest men in the u.s. senate. and on behalf of nevada taxpayers, i'd like to know -- we'd like to know, how did you become so wealthy on a government payroll? >> that's kind of a low blow. i think most everyone knows i was a very successful lawyer. i did a very good job in investing. i have been on a fixed income since i went to washington. i lived off what i made in the private sector. her suggestion that i made money being a senator is simply false. >> living on a fixed income. she also portrayed him as an out

of touch guy from -- that's right. i got a ticket. i get free lunch here. a guy who comes back to nevada when it's time to try to get some votes. he's mr. fancy pants who lives in a fancy condo in washington, d.c. >> that's good strategy on her part based on the fact that unemployment in nevada is higher than the national average. people are looking at jobs and go to the polls in 2 1/2 weeks. >> speaking of polls, let's take a look at the recent fox nevada poll and as you can see, sharon angle is just ahead by 2. the margin of error is probably about 3. so as you can see, it's a tossup. but i'll tell you why last night's debate was very critical and that's because early voting starts tomorrow in nevada. whatever was said last night, if she landed a knockout blow, it could impact the voting. >> i thought she just had to sustain herself in a way because, you know, we got our chance to see her in different ways for the first time.

she says i'm a mom and a grandmother and i'm new to pop politics so to me, we have to walk out with a tie on. >> when harry met sharon. >> that could be another movie in the making. talk about what's going on in california. meg whitman and jerry browne want to be governor to succeed arnold schwarzenegger and originally there was that whole nanny situation with meg whitman and from the jerry browne camp where someone called meg whitman on a telephone call a word that begins with a w, a very derogatory comment. the national organization of women endorsed jerry browne after they heard that taped phone call. after the debate the other day where he sort of apologized to meg whitman, n.o.w. said it probably isn't a great thing that somebody called for that word. yet, they said nobody should be fired. if they do it again, somebody should be fired. >> that's the key. if they do it again, somebody

should be fired. talking points memo called up the president of the california association of n.o.w. a woman bit name of patty bellasama and what does patty do? she used that exact word that starts with a w to describe meg whitman. so should they fire patty, the president of n.o.w. in california? if she's using -- this is a national association of women. when you use that w word to describe women, that's not a good thing. >> right. but yet, she says she's not saying she is that word. she's saying that that policy. >> she's a political w. >> she's a political w. >> that's -- >> this is what she said. she said that while calling whitman a w was a poor choice of words, the description was accurate. the very troubling issue that is embedded in that call is what prompted that. she's saying she's a political w because they believe she sold herself out to the police union,

i believe. but the idea she would use the same word and representative of the national organization of women is astounding to me. what do you think? e-mail us at foxnews.com. >> we were talking earlier in the prod, should n.o.w. change their name? are they really the national association of women? on its face, you would think the national association of women would endorse the woman for the organization for women for the office. but not only did they not do that, they're using that kind of language. >> they don't endorse conservative women, though. >> that's exactly right. maybe it should be nod. the national organization of democrats because literally that's what it is. >> that would be a good transition. wwe was once the wwf, they made a transition. maybe they might make that move. so hey, at 9 minutes after the hour, if you go out to california you know both sides agree on one thing, jerry browne and meg whitman don't want to be arnold schwarzenegger. they run ads against the republican governor. not a surprise that arnold schwarzenegger has not endorsed

either candidate. >> i think that's surprising. >> that they would run for -- >> not that. that he would not endorse the republican in the race. >> meg whitman is running i'm not arnold schwarzenegger type ads. he's not saying hey, meg, give me a hug. >> he's tweeting about her. he had this to say with regard to that word we've been discussing this morning that we can't say. he said it's appalling that somebody sells out, this is responding to another tweet that came in talking about her selling her vote to the police union and he said this, it's appalling when anyone sells out and the question is what do you personally think about the w comment made by jerry browne's campaign? that would be -- that was the -- that part is unacceptable. that was his response. >> there you go. all right, meanwhile, let's take you down to texas and talk about what's going on down there. there's a dallas area couple by the name of david and sharon kroft and they were so steamed, the state legislature in texas

in 2007 inserted the words under god into the texas pledge to mirror what goes on in the pledge of allegiance for the united states of america. so what did they do? they took them to court and it went through the legal system for a while and they were denied and denied, and yesterday, a texas state -- >> fifth u.s. circuit court of appeals. >> thank you very much, gretch. that's exactly right. said they can leave that under god in the texas pledge. nothing the matter with it. >> well, a lot of americans will say hooray! hooray and how many tax dollars did we waste fighting that one? >> i love this. they said their kids were harmed by the use of that word and even though they were allowed to leave the room before they did the pledge, the kids were still harmed so two courts have said you're wrong, grow up. >> yeah and the texas attorney general, a fellow by the name of greg abbott who has been on the show called it for a victory for

all texans' constitutionally protected rights. >> and congratulations out to god. have a great weekend. >> ok. it took an entire year of planning for this michigan state game, the football delivered from the sky. >> that's so cool. look at this picture. >> then -- >> cool. capitalism to the rescue. why 33 chilean miners should thank good old fashioned capitalism for saving their lives. stuart varney is here next to explain. you're watching "fox & friends" live from new york city. good morning. knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good.

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"hardball" host says the lesson to be learned, don't join the tea party. huh? >> message coming out of the tea party people and a lot of them are good people is every man for himself basically. no more taxes. no more government. no more everything. no more safety net. no more health care for everybody. everybody get out there, make your buck. save it. screw the government. move on. right? you know, these people if they were every man for themselves down in that mine, they wouldn't have gotten out. they would have been killing each other after about two days. >> great point and, of course, there's the head of the union. >> if the miners were tea partiers they'd be dead. >> that's a perfect point and i wish i brought that up earlier but "the wall street journal" has a slightly different take on that event. >> those miners have been trapped like this 25 years ago, they'd be dead. it needs to be said. the rescue of the chilean miners is a smashing victory for free market capitalism. >> and that's what dan thinks. what does stuart varney think? you surpriseed about the debate, the topic when we talk about it like that? >> you got a joyous occasion.

rescue of the miners after, what, 70 odd days. joyous occasion, what's the left do? chris matthews? he uses it as an opportunity to take a gratuitous slap at america. bashes the tea party. totally inaccurately by the way. you contrast that with what dan had to say in his column in "the wall street journal" headline capitalism saved the miners and he details this company, an american company in pennsylvania which developed the drill -- the drill, they offered the drill to the chileans who thankfully accepted. they used the drill to drill down the rescue tunnel and the miners were saved. that drill was developed by capitalists innovation and they're looking for profit. it's an american company. celebrate, baby. >> then you get the colorado company that was working in afghanistan digging wells to come back and use their technology here, using a cage like system that was developed in pennsylvania and together, they put -- they upgraded it to work on this specific incident.

>> why did they develop it? they developed it to make a profit, to employ people. that's capitalism. it works for heaven's sakes. >> let's look at some of the corporate providers. you have zepher and you have geotech and provided in chile, operated the actual rescue that we understand costs $20 million. u.p.s. shipped the drill bit. >> read it and weep, chris matthews. there's a list of the people that really do work. >> can i tell you something else i love? everybody knew they needed sunglasses so rather than give them the paper 3d glasses, oakley said i'll give you the best. i have no problem. give away glasses, they probably sold a zillion of them since then. >> where does chris matthews come from doing this? to use this occasion, to slap the tea party and say they'd all be dead if tea party people are in charge. what a disgrace frankly. >> if you could briefly compare the capitalists to the

government situation. >> yes. >> you know, when you look at how the government does it vs. capitalism. >> look, i'm a free market capitalist guy. i think capitalism works. get off our backs and let it work. government doesn't work very well. it's bureaucratic. it is policized. capitalism works. government often does not. >> and you're able to cut through and get the best people at the right time without going through a whole bunch of bureaucracy. >> just my opinion. >> that's why we watch "varney & company" every day on the fox business network. >> yes, you do. >> that starts at 9:20. >> michelle on today about government debt and marsha blackburn getting a look at the light bulbs we use. >> there was no joy on "the view." joy and whoopi storm off the set because of what bill o'reilly had to say. what did he say? that's coming up. >> for one day, inappropriate things. and then it's the most expensive school ever built. but will the fancy swimming pool and dance studio make our kids

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>> i'm glad you're up. i've been shaking you for 10 minutes. the obama administration set to announce that the federal deficit is over $trillion for the second straight year. they estimate that this year's deficit stands at $1.29 trillion. last year, it was $1.4 trillion. that may help explain why the tea party hopefuls are running strong ahead in the midterm elections that are 18 days away. according to analysis from "the

new york times," 33 candidates in the house and eight in the senate stand a good chance of winning. gretch? >> brian, get ready for a "fox & friends" exclusive. an exclusive look inside the halls of the robert f. kennedy community schools in los angeles. it costs over $578 million to build. making it the nation's most expensive public school ever. this comes in the middle of the city's budget crisis which has resulted in massive teacher layoffs plus studies show increased education funding does not mean improved student achievement. kyle olson is the founder and president of the education action group foundation and visited the school and shot the exclusive footage and he's my guest. good morning to you. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> so millions and millions and millions of dollars spent on this school. how did it happen? >> it happened because voters passed a $30 billion bond to create a -- to build all of these new schools. and so it comes at an interesting time, as you said, where we're looking at all these massive layoffs. we're looking at a 50% dropout

rate in los angeles. and yet we're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on schools. this school will cost about $135,000 per student. what we need to be looking at is not how much we're spending, how much can we spend in order to create these fancy schools but what type of instruction are they getting? what are the quality of the adults, the teachers in these schools? >> you argue it comes down to the teachers, similarly "waiting for superman" the documentary out now says the same thing. let's look at the crazy expenses. $500,000 for artificial turf. $33 million on a methane system. $15 million on preserving historic features and yet, one of the principles at one of these schools says it was all a great idea. >> initially, by donald trump to build a world class hotel. the money spent really had to do with the real estate, for

example. the fact that we have the best type of complex for students. i think it's money well spent. >> you say it's not money well spent because this district has some of the lowest performing students in the nation. you don't believe that by spending more money it means that we get better students. why? >> that's right. well, because it all comes down to the adults. i mean, a good comparison is indianapolis, indiana, the tinley accelerated school. it's a charter school that literally opened in a former grocery store. today, those students are outperforming their peers in the very same neighborhood. so what it comes down to is instruction. the quality of the teachers in the classroom. and those types of things. not how much can we spend on handrails or a fancy theater or pools or all of those types of things? >> you understand in america, we've been brought up in this bigger is better, shinier is better, newer is better, so is it in the marketing approach or,

you know, how have we gone wrong in not knowing it's about the teaching? >> we've come to a point that we believe simply spending more money is going to fix the problem and we've seen for years now that simply spending more money is not fixing the problem. and so what we need to do is change our mind set. look how we're spending our money. taxpayer money. because it's not the government's money. and look at how it's spending our money and then change the way that it's -- it's spending the money because ultimately, we need to be more competitive globally because we're in a global society as "waiting for superman" accurately pointed out and because of that, we need to change. >> well, a lot of that has to do with the unions and the teachers that are involved in that and it's a very complicated process. kyle olson, thanks very much for this exclusive look inside this school. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up on the show, the debate gets heated when bill o'reilly joins the ladies of "the view." >> i'm out!

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there's no limit to what droid does. >> everybody is talking about making the palestinians and the israelis sit down and talk in the middle east. we can't even get the ladies of "the view" to sit down and talk with bill o'reilly. did you see that today? bill o'reilly did something on "the view" today that made whoopi and joy walk off the set. he showed up. >> yeah, it's the number one media story in the world. bill o'reilly went over to "the view" to sit on their kind of -- >> he's been there a bunch of times and got the new book out "pinheads and patriots" out now. he wanted to talk about that. he at one point was talking about the gulf of the difference in the president's opinion on the mosque to be built, perhaps,

near ground zero and the opinion of the people of the united states. and then from there, it took off, if you didn't see it, here's 53 seconds of it. >> on 9/11. >> oh, my god. >> muslims didn't kill us on 9/11. is that what you're saying? what religion were they in? >> i'm telling you 70% of -- >> i don't want to be here. >> yeah! >> outraged about muslims killing us on 9/11. >> i want to say something. i want to say something to all of you. you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our

hands and screaming and walking off stage. i love my colleagues but that should not have happened. >> she was the only sensible person with that response, barbara walters chastising her two co-hosts. by the way, isn't the show called "the view." "the view." >> it's one view. >> that you should be listening to other points of view and by the way, he did make an error which he acknowledged later that he said muslims killed us on 9/11. he was speaking in the context of talking about extremists muslims. so they said they were offended by him saying basically that all muslims had something to do with 9/11 which he explained later on and then they appropriately came back to the set. you have to wonder who told them in their ear, get your butt back out there. >> we heard barbara walters literally outraged. yeah, they totally did the wrong thing. you left your own show with the guests on your set. >> you can't storm out your own house because you're angry with your kids. >> it looks like they're that you're intolerant. they call it "the view." not "the views."

for the most part, it is so far to the left. >> it's supposed to be views. >> look it, it reflects mainstream media. >> here's the thing, that debate is almost like our debate on training wheels. that was our debate seven weeks ago and they can't handle the give and take of a debate. they were outraged somebody was saying there's a reason -- there was a certain group of people that attacked us on 9/11. it wasn't just one person. it was one religion. not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims. >> if you watch the body language, i saw the entire interview. they were not thrilled to have bill o'reilly there to begin with. they -- so right away, they had not welcoming body language. but what they were discussing was the recent poll across america, 70% of americans are against the mosque at ground zero. that the point that bill was trying to make and joy behar did not like that poll and said she never heard of it before. my question to the viewers issish, was the applause when

whoopi and joy left because they agreed with their point of view or applauding because they left? >> the applause sign went on. i came here for a nice afternoon. why are people yelling? that's total chaos. if we were screaming like that on the couch, we would be excoriated. >> you have left before. >> because my coffee wasn't hot, something very real but the other -- the other headline was and the big picture was how barack obama is out of touch. that's when they are face turned green. what do you mean barack obama is out of touch with the people? >> and when bill o'reilly said that a majority of americans were for them not building it, that applause right there, i was talking to o'reilly yesterday. >> he got real applause. >> he got real applause and there was a lot of it. i haven't really heard that kind of particular kind of applause on that show ever before. >> never appropriate to leave the set, gretchen. >> let's go back to that. you've done it before. it's contagious.

i have a sneaking suspicion somebody else did it last night, too. >> true or false, the last miner to emerge from the chilean situation carried a copy of my book "pinheads and patriots." that would be false. >> you win! >> you're kidding me. this is -- >> that was a hard question! >> doocy, but a good try. >> no. but because doocy is walking off actually. >> but i'm giving -- >> not appropriate. >> news flash, there's nothing behind that camera. where were you going? >> went back to talk to the camera guy. >> i went back to talk to the -- >> and two of us, the camera guy and i talked about how if you're going to ask a tiebreaker, ask it of both questions so that you could actually break the tie. >> both participants. it was rigged. it wasn't fair. >> it wasn't. >> you got cheated. bill o'reilly will be called on the carpet here on the "fox & friends" curvy couch at 8:30 eastern time. we'll talk to him and we hope you stick around for that.

>> in the meantime -- >> only problem if you're storming off, they giggled when you left as opposed to people angry. time for your headlines. >> it was in the water. >> absolutely. >> president obama and vice president biden is making a rare joint campaign stop over in delaware today. stumping for the democratic candidate chris coons trying to block any forum momentum by republican tea party candidate christine o'donnell. she's trailing by nearly 20 points, though. they will attend a fundraiser and really for coons starting at 11:00 it morning where the republican party seems to have abandoned o'donnell. what a difference. >> a man accused of selling dynamite won't be allowed to testify at trial. he's charged with conspiring with bin laden to destroy the embassies in tan sgzania and ke. they claim he was coerced into giving up the witness' name. >> meanwhile, a 6-year-old tennessee boy being credited with saving his grandma's life. she was feeling bad. couldn't get out of bed.

th then he did this. >> what's going on here? >> my grandma can't walk. >> she can't walk? >> no. >> hold on for me, please. let me get somebody en route to help you. >> well, thanks to his phone call, firefighters arrived and rushed 86-year-old mary garrett to the hospital where she is in stable condition. but she is alive. >> all right. brian kilmeade, time for some football! >> could you lengthen the toss a little, steve? did that take an hour? come on. >> brian with sports. >> brian with sports. >> thank you, gretchen. the football is creating some problems for the nfl. i storm off but i'm the only one that can do this. the pink ribbon football being used during games in support of breast cancer, great cause and the football and everything else in the nfl has been pinked. former quarterback tim hassleback says players are

saying they have tough to hold on to the football because they're brand new and slippery. players have been supporting pink wrist bands and cleats in order to show their support for breast cancer awareness month. there is -- this is one way to make an entrance during the weekend's michigan state-michigan game. watch this. this is sergeant adam sniffen's camera, he marched on to deliver the ball along with a football and american flag. he had a camera. part of the 101st demonstration team and made 800 jumps never missing a target. they had been planning for the jump for more than a year. finally, baseball playoffs kicking off tonight where the yanks take on the rangers in the american league championship series but the big game one of the nlcs is historic. it's slated to be the pitching showdown really of the century. and i'm not exaggerating. you got phillies pitcher roy halliday faces off against tim linsocomb. both are pitching great and both coming off no-hitters so one

no-hitter and one near no-hitter last times out. you can catch the epic showdown tomorrow. that will be on fox. that will be at 7:30 eastern time. >> excellent. >> that will be good, building to a crescendo. >> thanks for making that music analogy, by the way. let's move on to this story. big mascot official brewing in florida. orlando salinas is in florida with that story. mascot controversy? >> this is starting to sound a lot more like david vs. goliath. nine months ago, florida state university, fsu, the seminoles and the university of florida, the gators, both of these schools began to send out cease and desist letters against a string of high schools across three states telling them, look, we're glad you're fans. you better stop using anything that looks like our logo, like our mascot. anything that has the same script in the letters. don't sell anything at all that looks like our stuff or we'll see you in court. great day to be a gator.

>> in the tiny town of belgrade, florida. auto folks still quiet down for the pledge of allegiance. then get all fired up for their varsity football team. >> ♪ here we go gators >> for nearly 50 years, they have proudly called themselves the gators but earlier this year -- the other bigger gator from the university of florida ordered a handful of high schools in mississippi, arkansas and florida to stop using images that looked like the u.f. mascot including that famous gator script, a move that makes no sense to this small private school in the everglades. >> i'm hoping that somebody from the university of florida will say look, enough is enough. let's don't go after these schools. let's don't go after them. they're our feeder systems. we get our kids from these schools. >> the university of florida turned down our request for an interview. but through a spokesperson said the school has an obligation to protect its trademarks.

ok, guys. fsu, florida state university, the seminoles, it also turned down a request for an interview. the schools say, look, if we don't stop these small high schools from selling anything that has our logo or our name on it, that's money that we're losing but to some of these small schools, it's a big deal, guys. they might make maybe $500, maybe $1,000 a year from some of this stuff they sell. that's how they get along and the schools say if indeed push comes to shove and fsu and u.f. really make them change the whole world at their school, it could cost them between $50,000 and $100,000 to change everything. we're talking uniforms from the band to sports teams to all the lobbying ow logos you see on your guys. you grew up in the high school and remember how you had the mascot and wording everywhere, in this particular case, it isn't looking really good. >> especially this time when budgets are tough. >> i wonder if the alligator are going to be forced to cease and desist because they look like the logo.

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>> police officers put their lives on the line every day and you know that, they do it to serve the community and protect those who they serve. but some of those don't have the simple equipment they need to keep themselves safe. well, now, one group is trying to change all that. dennis wise is the president of the american federation of police and concerned citizens. and founder of best for life. he's also a retired deputy and author of this, honor above all else, removing the veil of secrecy. welcome. >> thank you. >> i'm stunned to find out that there are departments that don't have the funding to get a bulletproof vest. >> that's true. most people don't realize that

the average police department is only five men. >> community that supports it with their tax dollars. >> yes. and they don't get enough salary to even support their family let alone go out and buy the basic equipment such as a bulletproof vest. >> what have you done? how much does it cost on the average? >> average vest right now is running about $800 so if you're making $1,200 a month before taxes, you don't have extra money to buy a vest. as we're losing a police officer in the united states, one every 57 hours, i decided i have to do something to slow it down. >> and so you did this and you formed this organization. >> well, no, the organization has been around -- we're celebrating our 50th anniversary tomorrow but the program is about 9 years old right now. >> we have how people are going to get -- find out how to get a hold of you and support the organization so i'll have that up by the end of the show. what else have you brought with you? >> i've brought in what's known as the family survivor packet. what it is is we have emergency

cash for the family. once the organization finds out that an officer has been killed in the line of duty, we send this packet out which is the medal of honor. this is the medal of honor right here. placket that goes with the -- >> all right. >> and then there we have the packet and you have another medal. >> this is the family survivor medal. >> so they're going to get this. >> they'll get that and then they'll get a family survivor badge. now, when they come to the police memorial on may 15th every year or they come and visit the police museum to look at the wall of honor. they present that and there's no cost. >> right, and you have that -- and you have the flag as well. >> yes, so that is all for those -- the families of those who have lost their lives in the line of duty. >> that's correct. >> and the vest for life is to make sure that doesn't happen and that rate slows down. >> that's correct, also. >> and you get cards and gifts

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>> let's talk about health care for a moment because a federal judge has ruled 20 states can continue to sue the federal government over the new health care law. the states claim the new law is unconstitutional because it requires all americans to buy health insurance. so what does this mean? >> let's talk to the host of "freedom watch" on the fox business network. judge andrew napolitano. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve, gretch.

>> all right. >> well, it means that this case will go forward. there's 15 of these cases. each before a different federal judge. each in different cities throughout the country. this is sort of granddaddy of them because the plaintiffs here are 20 state attorneys general. and so this is the one that most of us have been watching. and basically, they filed a complaint challenging a series from different parts of the statute. the government responded by saying the complaint is frivolous, throw it out. the judge actually agreed with him and threw out four parts of the complaint and allowed two to remain but the two that remain go to the heart of the health care law. one is can the government, can the federal government force you to buy a product that you may not want or need? health insurance. the other is can the congress tell the states you will expand medicaid, you will raise your taxes, and you will spend the money as we tell you because if the states are sovereign, then congress can't tell them to do it. if we're free individuals,

congress can't make us buy something we don't want. that's the arguments of the plaintiffs. the justice department, of course, defended this and said it's all the economy and congress can regulate the economy under the interstate commerce clause. >> so it's going forward with those two particulars, they threw out -- it's interesting, the judge referred to the democrats' argument as alice in wonderland as one point where, you know, they want it both ways. what's the difference between what happened here and what happened with that case in michigan where the judge there essentially wrote an opinion on the back of a napkin and it was about that long. >> right. this is a very scholarly opinion written -- >> the florida one. >> thank you. written by a very well respected judge. no disrespect to the judge in michigan. it was a very brief cursory opinion that basically said congress can regulate anything that affects interstate congress. even one person deciding not to buy health care which wouldn't even be a blip on the radar screen, if you added up all those individuals who decided in the aggregate there would be an effect on the economy and

congress can regulate the economy. this is a far more what lawyers and judges call bulletproof opinion. unlikely to be overturned on appeal but remember, he didn't find health care unconstitutional. he found that the plaintiffs stated a claim and they can compel him to rule on that which he will do in january. >> now they've just streamlined it full steam ahead. >> yes. >> thank you very much. >> pleasure, guys. >> good to see you. have a great weekend. see this kid's costume? not that one. >> oh, that mask! >> ahhh! >> oh, my gosh. >> did kilmeade have anything to do with that? will this teach them a lesson? it looks just like the judge. playing )

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the u.s. right now planning an attack. u.s. intelligence officials highly concerned about the threat that they say is nearly impossible to prevent. >> great. senate majority leader harry reid has his manhood questioned by his opponent. >> what? >> man up, harry reid. you need to understand that we have a problem with social security. >> all right! more from the battle over the silver state. it got personal. >> it did. meanwhile, the national organization for women not on board with their own message. why they say it was ok for someone in jerry browne's camp to degrade his female opponent and so much more. the story just got weirder and we're going to talk about it today on "fox & friends" for a friday. >> you are watching "fox & friends." ooh! >> welcome aboard, folks. we got two more hours and lots of interesting stuff in the

world of politics developing overnight in nevada and in the world of terror. >> yeah, jennifer griffin doing some fine work using her exclusive sources. >> let's go to a fox news exclusive right now. we have confirmed the pakistani taliban may have an operative in the united states right now waiting to attack. it's believed the terror group wants to make up for the botched bombing in times square. remember when the group released video of would be terrorist faisal shahzad claiming it's easy to attack the united states? >> it's not difficult at all to wage an attack on the west. and specifically in the u.s. and completely defeat them. >> counterterrorism officials are very concerned about the attacks but they do not know when or where the operative is or what the potential target might be. the search for an american man killed by mexican pirates suspended now. mexican officials telling a local newspaper their search for david hartley's body is temporarily on hold until they can come up with a new strategy for their investigation. they hope to start looking again

in a few days. as you recall, one of those investigators found decapitated. for the first time since their underground nightmare began, the chilean miners are going to be going home now. the first three were released from the hospital late last night and the rest expected to leave today. edison pena, the 12th miner rescued was the first one out the door. pena who ran all the time while trammed underground to stay fit. he was just invited to run the new york city marathon next month. no word yet if he's accepted. the man who streaked past president obama at a rally last weekend ln weekend will not get the million dollar prize the billionaire promised him but getting a generous consolation prize. the billionaire is giving the streaker six months rent for his staten island, new york apartment and agreed to cover some of his sister's medical bills. it's believed those mounting bills are the reason that the streaker pulled off this stunt in the first place. and those are your headlines. yeah, that was a big debate.

look, they said if you streak within 20 feet of the president and he hears you and sees you, you get a million dollars. they had videotape and the billionaire said it didn't pass the mustard. >> in pennsylvania, there's a law that you cannot profit from doing something illegally. because he broke the law reportedly by taking off his clothes and indecent exposure and what not, they said that's -- hey, he broke the rules. can't give him the money. >> i'm glad there were plenty of signs there of vote 2010. to show there wasn't more psychological damage done to the audience and mike emanuel forced to cover the streaker. >> speaking of 2010, big election coming up and the midterms where the power in the united states congress hangs in the balance. last night, the senate majority leader squared off against that woman in red right there, sharon angle. it's interesting, the web site hotair.com had kind of a preliminary poll, what would happen? 75% of their respondents said harry reid would say something crazy. 20% said sharon angle would say

something crazy. 5% thought a knife fight could break out in the audience before the show was over. >> because it's so personal. >> very, very close race obviously. so let's see what they were battling out. they actually battled the issues, specifically jobs. >> i believe my number one job is to create jobs as a united states senator. >> harry reid, it's not your job to create jobs. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector to create those jobs. >> insurance companies don't do things out of the goodness of their hearts. they do it out of a profit motive and they have almost destroyed our economy. >> america is about choices and we need to allow people to have those choices. the free market will weed out those companies that don't offer as many choices and don't have a cost effective system. >> so they also had some personal attacks. sharon angle told harry reid to man up at one point when she was talking about social security.

and he called her views extreme. but many analysts say that he did not pull a lot of big punches against her and you have to wonder why he also said that he was a very good friend of george w. bush. because as brian pointed out last hour, didn't he say that the iraq war had been lost long before even it went into effect. >> called the president a loser. >> now he's his friend. >> i guess so. let's listen to the debate last night that went on for an hour on pbs that got personal. >> you came from searchlight to the senate. with very little. now, you're one of the richest men in the u.s. senate and on behalf of nevada taxpayers, i'd like to know, we'd like to know how did you become so wealthy on a government payroll? >> absolutely kind of a low blow. i think most everyone knows i was a very successful lawyer and did a very good job of investing. i've been on a fixed income since i went to washington.

i've lived off what i made in the private sector. her suggestion i made money being a senator is simply false. >> yeah, people don't take kickbacks, please. you can't ask that kind of a question! can you? >> yeah, they talked about social security. they talked about that he should stop scaring people, that sharon angle did say, you know, when it comes to manning up, he should allow a portion of the money for social security to go into private accounts. >> right. >> walking back the original thought that many people who were trying to say sharon angle is for eliminate social security, department of education. >> right and, you know, in nevada in particular, that is a state that is so wrecked by the economy and she came out guns blazing and said, look, we're number one in the country in foreclosures and bankruptcy and unemployment and then she said, harry, we can't trust you because you raised taxes 300 times and then he came back and he said well, actually we lowered taxes for 95% of americans and nevadaians as well. >> let's look at the recent poll. this was pre-debate. that will be the only debate

because early voting starts today now. so you have angle two points ahead within the margin of error. 49% over reid at 47%. then you go just a little bit more west to california, and you have a very interesting debate now with the national organization for women known as n.o.w. remember, they endorsed jerry brown in the gubernatorial race against meg whitman and then somebody from jerry brown's camp called meg whitman a w word, on tape. >> could be his wife. >> he didn't call his wife that. his wife might have called her that. >> right. >> it took n.o.w. about a week after that to come out and say, you know, really, you shouldn't call women that word. and then they said if anyone in the future would use that word, they should be fired. but don't fire that person who actually said it on that videotape. now you have the california president of n.o.w. calling meg whitman a political w. so should she be fired? >> no. >> yeah? >> no. >> by their measure. >> by their measure, they said

the next american who calls anybody a w word should be fired. >> but in the california chapter of the n.o.w. organization, they said the more i thought about it, describing her is a political statement, accurate statement. technically you could fire her but if the -- if the president of the organization for national organization for women in california says it's ok, i guess it's ok. >> they made it clear -- because it is considered hate speech by n.o.w. that's what they said a couple of days ago and then for this person to use that word about a woman at that, you would think by their own metric they would follow their own advice and can the person who runs the campaign in california. >> it's astounding anybody within that organization would use that word to describe any woman. i don't care what the political views are, it's astounding. so maybe we should all change the name of n.o.w. is it really the national organization of women? that's the question of the day. should n.o.w. change its name and just come clean and say what they really are? >> considering the fact that this person now used the w word

to describe meg whitman politically, we asked you this question an hour ago and there seems to be a common theme. we asked what you would change national organization of women to. and jan from texas said n-o-s-w. national organization of some women and we got this a couple of times. john marsh said they are now the national association of w's. >> ahh. >> because we were describing that word as w. >> let's move on to a little bit of a lighter topic which is, you know, halloween is right around the corner. have you picked out your costume yet? you might want to consider being one of our founding fathers. did you know that so many people want to dress up now as one of our founding fathers, not just at halloween time but all during the time that sales have been spiking at certain stores where you can buy the wigs and you can buy the clothes. >> yeah, for the rise of the tea party comes the rise of the powdered wig sales. >> it is. generally in the past, the

audience for this kind of clothing has been re-enacters and also museums but ever since those big rallies started, they're just a number of people who are frustrated with where we've come to in this country and then when they decide to go to these events they decide to dress up like thomas jefferson and so what do they do? they buy the powdered wig. they buy -- i don't think they buy the wooden teeth that -- or the teeth. >> hippopotamus teeth. >> rhinoceros and wooden stuff like that but they do buy the black shoes with the silver buckles and the frilly shirt and the special pants. >> one guy had his second busiest day or busiest year so far since opening his shop in 1989. his 2010 sales are shaping up to be twice as large as sales in any year since 2002. why is that astounding? because usually businesses are not doing as well as they were doing in 2002. >> like if someone comes home and says honey, i have a great idea for a business. i want to sell powdered wigs. they're going to go get out.

suddenly, you're a genius. >> sure. give me a hug! and give me a powdered wig. >> don't pat me on the head. you'll blind me! >> you'll have a powdery hand. >> giving away your secrets. >> there's a company called -- right, you don't buy your wigs from buycostumes.com do you? >> no, i don't. >> all right. good to know. buycostumes.com sells a colonial wig for $17 and they also if you're interested sell a tricorn hat for $8. now, there's one problem, if you want to look like one of those colonists and buy the stuff from buycostumes.com and that's the stuff is made in china. >> ah-ha! >> ahhh! oh, my god. >> that's more than a little scary. >> a little dolly madison. >> yeah, yeah. you look very dolly. >> hello, dolly! >> you guys, i'm not sure what you have going on. >> i'm just like the artist who left my ears exposed. >> uh-huh. >> on the wig, it's fantastic.

but i am shocked that we went through a period in our country where powdered wigs were cool. >> they're coming back! >> they're cool again. all right a disney world tourist goes off the deep end and got thrown off the bus and then started throwing punches. >> and somebody turned on their phone and got pictures and why aren't you hearing specifics from democrats on the campaign trail right now? well, vice president joe biden says their platforms are too hard to explain. really? too complicated or not what people want to hear? the political panel stopping by next. >> vice president joe biden said democrats up for election aren't running on their accomplishments because they're too hard to explain. so basically he's saying either the voters are too stupid to understand or the democrats are too stupid to explain it, you know what's even harder to explain. why a democrat is letting joe biden talk with an election a couple of weeks away. why?

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>> the numbers don't lie. $814 billion. that's the latest estimate for the cost of the stimulus bill passed by our congress. despite all the spending, unemployment still stands at 9.6%. some experts say it may go higher. is it any wonder vice president biden recently said the democrats aren't running on the administration's accomplishments because it's too hard to explain something like that. huh? let's talk to our panel right now. joining us once again, professor at georgetown university school of continuing studies. community activist and attorney. and michael mezlenski, c.e.o.

and good morning to all of you. >> he's also the author of the book "language of trust. "let's start with you, professor. and i'm going to paraphrase jay leno's question a moment ago, is joe biden by saying it's too complicated to explain, is he saying that we're not smart enough to figure it out? >> exactly, and i think also what joe biden is doing is explaining why we have the tea party in america. he has made the case perfectly for why we have the tea party in america. because people are sick and tired of this kind of elite pandering. you're too dumb to understand what we're doing. no, it's not that we're too dumb to understand what you're doing. we don't like what you're doing. >> now, hold the phone, he says biden is absolutely right. >> no, i think what biden meant to say is all the elected officials -- >> meant to say. >> meant to say. are you the translator for joe biden? >> what he meant to say is we have to put our talking voice down and be honest with the american people. even though president obama has done more in the 20 months of his presidency than any other

democratic administration, financial reform, health care, education reform, you know, champions, climate change. >> yeah, like that stuff? >> no, the unemployment rate. people want food on the table and speem are struggling right now and so even though we've had enormous accomplishments it's really difficult to communicate that message. >> speaking of communications, you feel there's been a communication problem with this white house? >> absolutely. if you have something that's easy to see, easy to feel, then it's easy to communicate it. challenge is right now, people aren't feeling it. people aren't feeling it at their kitchen table and not feeling it when they're looking for a job so that means you have to work that much harder to communicate and the administration hasn't done that. >> yeah, but the administration -- nancy pelosi famously said we have to pass this thing to figure out what is in it regarding health care and with the stimulus, this will be so great because they're going to be all these shovel ready jobs. wait a minute. no such thing as shovel ready jobs. so maybe the problem is not just the way it's communicated but actual message itself, professor. >> yeah, and i think it is the

actual message itself to the point of not communicating but they were very clear in communicating the fact that they think that the chamber of commerce -- of commerce is taking foreign money. so they're very clear in communicating that. >> on that particular issue, they've got not one scintilla of fact behind it. in fact, "the new york times" has said there's nothing to that but the democrats pound the drum. >> i want to go back to something you said. i think you're wrong about something. you know, a poll recently came out that gave congress a d or an f. right? what they said is they still want active involvement in medicare, social security, education so it's not that people are angry with the government participation in these programs, they're angry with their effectiveness. >> and i think they're probably angry in the priority. the number one thing should have been jobs and instead, they're working on other stuff as well. all right. we'll continue the conversation. michael gets the first question when we come back. the truth is finally out. $800 billion later, president

obama is finally admitting that the cornerstone of his stimulus sales pitch was a farce. shovel ready? is he throwing fellow democrats under the bus? we'll talk about that. and he's not wearing that costume by choice. shoplifter sentenced to humiliation. is that a good idea?

>> what's this about? president obama admitting his administration's mistakes in a revealing forthcoming "new york times" magazine interviewing saying "there's no such thing as shovel-ready projects." well, that's new! >> i think we can get a lot of work done fast. when i met with the governors, all of them have projects that are shovel ready. >> we got shovel-ready projects

all across the country. >> shovel-ready projects, rebuilding our roads, our bridges. >> we are seeing shovels hit the ground. >> shovels are breaking ground. >> there are almost 100 shovel-ready transportation projects already approved in colorado which are beginning to create jobs. what happened there? we're continuing the conversation with our political panel. all right. so we just heard the president. he has said many, many times. we have all those shovel-ready projects and now in "the new york times" magazine, he says there's no such thing as shovel-ready project. he is effectively three weeks before an election throwing democrats under the bus. >> he is. but i mean, i think if you look at the history of this presidency over the last 20 months, he likes pushing blame off of him. there's never a sense that when the policy is bad, it's not my fault people don't understand the policy. >> it's that darn congress. >> it's always somebody else and in this case, how was he to know people who said shovel ready projects were out there weren't actually shovel ready. he's throwing demz under the

bus. >> totally disagree. i don't think he's throwing dems under the bus. i think he's acknowledging kind of his own shortcoming and own analysis of what washington was really about. he thought he can go with a lot of great ideas and policy and realize that politics really matter. >> well, he did say that and his quote regarding that is we probably spent too much time, he said in "the new york times," trying to get the policy right rather than trying to get the politics right. wait a minute. this is about the most political president we have had in a while. >> hello! >> i mean, you know, and to the point of shovel ready projects, i think, you know, it's really simple. if you're in a hole, stop digging. we got a lot of shovels out there. >> and to say that he didn't understand that washington is such a political place, give me a break. >> i don't think that's what he's saying. i think what he's saying is that change can't stop with the president. congress really has to reflect that change and washington is so fundamentally broken that one person cannot come in there and do it alone. and as for change -- >> no.

>> he understood during the campaign how important communications was and now he's saying because i didn't spend enough time on the politics, on the communications, people don't understand what i have to say and it's their fault. not my fault. >> right. don't you guys think there are a bunch of republicans in congressional races right now preparation ads that say, my democrat's opponent voted for this shovel-ready project close to $800 billion which do not exist. according to barack obama. >> yeah and the pure politics of this, too, is i think he's preparing for his own re-election campaign in 2012 so this is the opportunity to throw the dems under the bus, number one, and number two, hey, if he has a republican speaker of the house, it's easier to blame that person than to blame -- than to have harry reid and nancy pelosi. >> i think this is about the fact there's something fundamentally broken about washington and it hasn't always been this way. the reason is a lot of these folks in congress see it as a job and don't have a vision for their leadership. and democrats, republicans, all across the country are running on new blood and new ideas.

>> you know what? being able to sell your policies has always been important since the dawn of the tv era, it will continue to be important so you can't disown it because your policies aren't being -- >> ok. that conclusion the segment. >> walking up, all right? >> professor and michael, excellent debate this morning. >> thank you. >> the left trying to tie republican money to the notorious watergate scandal? huh? we'll talk to michael steele, chairman of the g.o.p., where will they draw the line? disney world tourist goes off the deep end, thrown off the bus and starts throwing punches. oh, man. and then every politician promises to cut the government's debt but this guy can actually do it. the human calculator says it's not as complicated as the politicians think. and he's got the chalk and the chalk dust to prove it. we are building a website by ourselves.

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>> saying it would be good without the mask, john? >> yeah. >> we don't know who he is. >> we don't know who he is. he knows who he is. >> yeah, but he could hire someone to stand under that mask. >> that would be incredible. look, people, kids are very inventive. >> that's incredible. >> wow. >> oh, wow. >> kids. >> let's do a couple of other quick headlines for you for a friday. they rarely campaigned together but president obama and vice president biden will both be in delaware this morning stumping for delaware senate candidate chris coons trying to block any forward momentum by christine o'donnell trailing by nearly 20 points right now. the president and v.p. will attend the fundraiser and rally for coons starts at 11:00 eastern this morning. >> guy accuse of selling dynamite will not be allowed to testify at his trial in new york. he faces a life sentence for allegedly conspiring with osama bin laden to destroy u.s.

embassies in tanzania and kenya. the judge ruled that he was coerced into giving up the witness' name. we'd like to talk to that guy. can we bring him in? >> no. >> we can't? >> no. >> the "new york times" making a big prediction about the influence of the tea party. "the times" says tea party backed candidates stand to make a difference on election day. that's big of them. survey finds that 33 house candidates and eight senate candidates with tea party backing have a chance of winning in november. it goes on to say that those wins could give the tea party a much larger influence in capitol hill agenda in the future. >> disney world bus driver is on paid leave after getting into a fist fight with the passenger and the whole thing is videotaped. >> oh, man! >> witnesses say the tourist is trying to get on the bus with his family and apparently lost his temper when the driver told him it was full. you can see the man shove the driver while holding his baby. it appears as if he even goes for the driver's neck. he then argues that he has

priority because of his baby. disney look into the situation. >> that's crazy. i've been disney and there's always a bus after that one. let's take a look at what's going on in the weather on this friday. wet one in porpgss of the northeast and ohio valley but take a look. from the delmarva down south, it's currently dry. keys got a little bit of rain and so does south florida and a little bit of rain as well out in arizona. meanwhile, as you step out this morning, if you're in minneapolis, it's 43 right now according to the records being sent to us by guys at the airport. 49 in chicago. 53 and just the facts, ma'am. 53 in memphis and portions of new england as well. currently, temperatures are in the 60's across much of florida and dixieland and later on today, temperatures will be as you can see here if you're watching on the tv in the mid

70's from the mid atlantic down through the panhandle of florida and then we're going to have a bunch of 80's across much of texas and also florida. 60's and some 70's across the central plains. that's the fox travel cast mr. kilmeade. >> not good news for democrats so close to election day. the obama administration expected to announce today that the u.s. will run a trillion dollar plus deficit for the second year in a row. molly heneberg is in washington with the details. >> good morning. deficit is a look at the government's bank book. how much more the government spent in a given year than it took in in taxes and we're looking at some eye-popping numbers for this year and next. the congressional budget office, the c.b.o. says that for the fiscal year of 2010 which ended on september 30th, the obama administration was $1.29 trillion in the red. that is the government spent $1.29 trillion more than it took in. still, that's down a bit from the 2009 numbers which was the

highest deficit on record. the c.b.o. is predicting for 2011 a deficit right back up to $1.4 trillion. these numbers likely will give republicans and fiscal conservatives some red meat heading into the final weeks before the midterm elections. they often cite the president's $814 billion economic stimulus legislation as an example of democrats in washington spending too much and driving up these deficits. but the president maintains that without the stimulus or recovery act, the economic situation would have been worse. >> the consequence of the recovery act that we put into place, there's no doubt that three million folks are working now that would not otherwise be working. >> republicans dispute those numbers, though. the president has appointed a bipartisan deficit commission to come up with ideas to get these deficits under control. those recommendations are expected in december but they likely will prompt familiar debates in washington. republicans opposing tax hikes to pay down some of the deficit.

and democrats opposing spending cuts to social programs. gref gretchen, back to you. >> thank you very much. can we cut any of that spending? the folks on capitol hill don't seem to have an answer. what do we do? citizens against government waste is one of america's top taxpayer watchdogs and they gave us a list of some of the most wasteful programs. and we brought in scott, you remember him, the human calculator. get in here, scott and the ambassador for world math day and the american math challenge. he's here to crunch numbers to show us how much we can save. all right. this is the list from that organization of some of what they deem to be wasteful. eliminate market access. >> $3 million. that's per year. these are all per year. we'll look at this in a four year range. i want to do one year to show you how much of an impact it would have. just eliminating that doesn't really save us $3 million in taxpayer money but also brings more money to america because more people will stay here working or more jobs instead of going overseas. >> what about nasa?

>> nasa's mission to mars $1.5 billion. lot of money but i wish we'd spend that on education right now and just help kids out more. >> stop paying farmers for corn. >> i don't understand this one completely. $4 billion is a lot of money for corn. >> eliminate peanut subsidies. >> yes $140 million and the sugar is $1.2 billion, our biggest problem for just not that but also our health. >> subsidies for amtrak. >> amtrak $202 million. they have 40 some lines and 40 of them didn't even make a profit. so we got to figure out how to fix that. and the federal employees parking idea, $140 million. >> they don't pay for their park sng>> what a country, huh? >> that would be one way. what's the total for one year? >> he with got $4 billion, $7.185 billion. $7.185 billion over four years. that's $28.74 billion we would save by cutting off some waste.

this isn't changing anything else but getting rid of stuff that we need to. >> argument, of course, is some people say we should continue to spend more. this is the opposite way of looking at it, to cut some costs. >> i wish the government would look at this the way they would ask us to do it personally with our own finances personally when we -- we better borrow some more money. i think we need to revolutionize or change the way we approach this. >> when you look at this four-year plan, what do you see? >> yeah. well, first problem is is that this is way too much money for just waste. it really shows that we're not putting enough effort into clean up our current system. now we need to have entrepreneurs raround the county to come up with better ways to change our financial structure. this is a good start to maybe not have to increase our taxes right now. >> was this a hard math problem for you? >> no, i love numbers and i'm all about inspiring kids about math and i'm here in new york to visit schools and i'll be up in boston next week and we have almost half a million kids

registered through math count for the american math challenge so it's really exciting and this is where we find our ambassadors for world math day where we set a world record for the largest on-line math contest this year. >> important to inspire our kids with math and science. scott, great to see you again. >> i brought you a gift! >> this is the world's first environmentally friendly golf ball and not only did we bring you the ball but look, there's your picture. >> oh, my gosh. >> give them to your husband. i hope he saves them and doesn't hit them. >> would you consider that the sweet spot or what? i don't know, that could be bad or good for me. >> all the other golf balls have toxin in them. this is the first one that's ecofriendly and totally recyclable. i hope you enjoy it. good seeing you. >> let's go out to steve and brian. >> it's so good to know that he gave me these balls as well. so good to know, i lose most of them. good to know the environment will accept it and grind it down. >> the thing about you, you've got dimples. >> absolutely. very good. and by the way, a lot of people would like to drive my head into the woods. this would be a perfect opportunity to go out and drive

me away. >> meanwhile, don't go away. we have lots more show to go. straight ahead, the left trying to tie republican money to the notorious watergate scandal? we'll talk to -- actually, brian will talk to michael steele, the man of steel and chairman of the g.o.p. why will they draw the line? >> i'll talk. let's see if he talks back. you hear alternative time from supporters of legalized marijuana, taxing pot will solve state's budget problems, right? really? is that the case? experts say they're dreaming. we'll explain next.

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>> this november, pot is on the ballot in four states, that is. voters will decide if marijuana should be legalized either for medical or recreational use. yes, have it and then go play tag. california advocates claim that legalizing pot will help cure the state's economic problems. some say it's just a ploy to get young voters to the ballot. and our next guest says the stories they tell are flat out wrong. >> ronald brooks has been in law enforcement for 35 years and president of the national narcotics officers association coalition. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning. >> so when you hear all of these different arguments in favor or against legalizing pot in california, where do you stand on the issue?

>> well, you know, i think -- obviously, our association stands against the legalization of pot for a whole host of reasons but here in california, this is called the control regulation to tax marijuana. it doesn't do any of those things. it sets up a system of chaos. it doesn't regulate it by state government but allows california's 478 cities to regulate marijuana, to figure out the tax strategies and the enforcement strategies. >> right. we're not talking -- sir, ronald, we're not talking about medical marijuana. we're talking about out in california where people can buy marijuana and have marijuana in small quantities completely legally. now, one of the arguments, though, and you've heard this is the fact that, look, there's such a big budget shortfall in california. this is going to raise money for the state. you say that's not true because you just touched on it a moment ago. it's going to be the counties. going to be the cities that are involved in the taxing of it. >> yeah.

it's simply not true. i mean, first of all, even with medical marijuana, there's only 50 cities out of 478 that have approved medical marijuana in their communities. the board of equalization in california has done a study and said hey, the cost to society will far outweigh any tax revenue that's come in and that study seems to be -- seems to be supported by a study by the rand corporation. certainly an independent group who says marijuana use will undoubtedly go up and why will tax revenue increase? you know, this is a black market drug. there's no reason to believe it won't stay on the black market. it will continue. california will continue to supply as it does now the other 49 states. we'll have that black market, drug cartels will continue to traffic not only in marijuana but in coke and meth and heroin. so that their claim that we're going to reduce violence somehow impacted the border violence or violence in mexico or cartel activities. that's simply not true. >> ok. >> and put too many people in

jail for marijuana but only put 3% of our jail population is in for marijuana. >> you're prepared with your argument and hard to know in california right now it looks like more people oppose it than support it. thank you very much for joining us, ronald brooks. >> thank you. >> all right. straight ahead -- >> top democrat says the hubbub over republican campaign cash is a bigger scandal than watergate? does that have any truth to it? rnc chair michael steele will be here to respond to that accusation next. >> and we have some huge news. michelle rhee, the d.c. schools chancellor who just stepped down will be joining us live through the power of the teachers union, did it force her out? what will she do next? >> meanwhile, what we're going to do next is play this song which is the number one song in america in 1964 by roy orbison singing about a pretty woman.

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>> answer to the question of the day, penny marshall. the winner is paul from ohio. >> meanwhile, michelle rhee, the d.c. schools chancellor who just stepped down this week after gaining national attention for her dedication to reforming of the schools and bringing focus back to the students joins us now live from our nation's capital. good morning to you, chancellor. >> good morning. how are you? >> doing ok. >> famously down in washington fired a whole bunch of teachers, closing schools that were not performing and came up against the very powerful school unions.

now that you're resigned a lot of people are going it looks like the union won. is that what happened? >> i hope the message that people take away is not that the unions won and now you should not do school reform as aggressively as we did here in d.c. i hope that the message people take away instead is wow, this is a serious endeavor and we need to make sure that we're even more aggressive about supporting reform minded politicians. >> michelle, in watching "waiting for superman" i think america will be really excited about what you've done and really impressed from what you tried to take on. you didn't need the job. never your dream job. you thought it was something that had to be addressed. you believe three teachers in a row can change a kid's life. you took on the unions to get that point across. in the end, do you think you made your point? >> i hope so. i mean, i think one of the things that the movie shows is that a teacher and good teachers

make all of the difference in the world and we have hundreds and thousands of great teachers across this nation. but it's also important to acknowledge the fact that we have some ineffective teachers. and for those folks it's incredibly important to think of what impact they're having on the children. as a parent myself, i can tell you i don't want my children in the classroom of ineffective teacher as the chancellor of the school district, i refused to put my kids in that position and so, therefore, i refused to put any parent in a position where they were going to have to have their children in that ineffective teacher's classroom. >> so many people have said this is heartbreaking for washington, d.c. public schools that you are going to be leaving. that this is a sad connotation on where we've come to in public education. and therefore, many people are wondering where does michelle rhee go next? in the documentary "waiting for superman" you say that d.c. will be your only school job. is that still true?

>> well, i am definitely sad to be leaving this job. i had wanted to stay here for a full eight years, two terms and i feel like there's so much work left to be done. but i also have a tremendous amount of faith in my deputy who is going to be taking over for me. i hope that the nation doesn't see this as a step backwards in school reform, though. though i don't necessarily see me being in another school district superintendentcy, i plan to be involved in education reform overall because we need more of a national movement and a national agenda around fixing some of these significant problems that exist right now. >> sure. there are stories out there you might go to work for chris christie in new jersey which is where i live and i got a kid in the school system. could you go? will you go? >> well, i think governor christie is doing an absolutely fantastic job of pushing the envelope on a the lot of these reform issues. i'm not commenting, though, on what my next -- >> is there a possibility?

possibility? >> i'm not commenting on those things yet. >> ok. >> let me ask you this, michelle, have you seen a change in priorities or at least the american mentality towards what's going on, the truth behind our public school system since the movie came out? >> i think for the people who have seen the movie and i know that y'all have been touting the movie but i want to just put in another plug. everybody in america should go and see this movie because when people come out of it, they -- they're terrified. and they're also heart broken. they're terrified because of the statistics about how poorly our children are doing and this is all of our children. not just our inner city children and they're also heart broken to watch these inner city families go through the struggle of wanting the best for their children and not being able to get them into a decent school. >> now that you have some time, you have to come to the couch. next time we want to see you in studio. >> absolutely. >> thanks for coming over. >> work in new jersey! all right. >> i said on the air you're my hero and the hero to a lot of other people. thanks for joining us today.

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>> gretchen: hope you're saying tgif because it's friday, october 15, 2010. thank you for sharing part of your friday with us. fight night in nevada as the tea party favorite and washington insider go head to head. >> i believe my number one job is to create jobs. >> it's not your job to create jobs. it's injure job to create policy. >> gretchen: more from the most closely watched race of the season. >> steve: meanwhile, the country's top democrat says the dust up over republican campaign cash is a bigger scandal than watergate? michael steele will be joining us to react and karl rove, the man who sparked this part of the controversy, also here live. put down that remote.

we got lots to go. >> brian: karl rove once gave me a tie. there was no joy on this episode of "the view." joy behar and whoopie goldberg stormed off the show because bill o'reilly was there. he'll join us live to tell us the story. "fox & friends" starts now. >> it's demi lava dough and you're watching "fox & friends." >> steve: it's a friday in new york city and around the world and coming up in moments, you'll hear from bill o'reilly. you'll hear from michael steele and hear from karl rove. you're going to hear from that guy who is ready to punch us, geraldo rivera. >> brian: he's not ready to punch us. brand-new sexy back to school jeans. #. >> and no underpants. >> gretchen: all right. we'll get to that, geraldo and his jeans later on. >> steve: brian, you're right. >> gretchen: let's do some quick headlines. president obama invites -- and

joe biden making a stop in delaware stumping for chris coons. they're trying stop any momentum by christine o'donnell. they will attend a fund-raiser and rally for coons starting at 11:00 a.m. this morning. a firey debate heats up nevada's senate race. sharron angle scoring the line of the night, challenging democratic incumbent harry reid to stop trying the same old remedies to fix social security. >> man up, harry reid. you need to understand that we have a problem with social security. >> she talks about and has for years talked about getting rid of social security, for years. this isn't something just during the primary. now she's trying to change her tune. >> gretchen: angle also slammed reid for going soft on immigration, a huge issue in nevada. they're currently running neck in neck in the polls. former republican vice presidential candidate sarah palin ventures in liberal san

jose, california, but found an enthusiastic crowd, a conservative audience. >> when they're not listening to the little guy, i have to ask you, are you ready to take it back and put government back on the side of the little guy and have government work for you instead of you having to work for government? >> gretchen: it left some people scratching their heads because there were no republican candidates appearing with her. the obama administration is expected to announce today that the u.s. will run a trillion dollars plus deficit for the second year in a row. the congressional budget office is projecting $1.29 trillion in red ink. somewhat better than last year's $1.4 trillion. in election year focused on a weak economy, it's bad news for democrats. those are your headlines. guess who is sitting on the couch? the guy with the jeans, good morning. >> man up. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: no doubt those miners manned up. >> isn't that amazing? i covered cuke creek and sago and one had a happy ending and

the other had a sad ending. the drama and everyone gets engaged of people being trapped in the bowels of the earth is something that's so compelling. >> steve: because it's everybody's fear. >> it is, and it acts out in real time. so you watch them and wonder about their air, wonder about the physical condition. so sharp that they came out wearing these collideds. >> steve: their families had their hair done. and the president of chile. >> he staked his presidency on their successful rescue and thank god it worked out. we all were part of it. you all play a little role in it. >> brian: there is another element. i think americans innately respect people who work for a living. miners work hard for a living. i'm going to support my family by going into the trenches. >> it's an awful job in every regard. you breathe that coal dust. you see all those stories these guys have lung cancer and all

the rest. it is the genesis of the american labor movement, the mine workers union and there is so much involved. we became personally engaged in their story. obviously the most sensational story is the guy with the mistress and the wife. >> gretchen: that's the tabloid side. >> in latino families, usually it happens at the wake. the guy is dead and they both show up. >> gretchen: how about the wife who said at the request of the miner down below, he he wanted h to show up together and she said she learned to respect herself in the two mines he was down there. >> and there is another term, cahones. they became the center of such attention, when you think of everything being thrown at them. started with the 450-dollar

oakley sunglasses. that's the beginning of life for them. so you can, even in that little chamber the size of a studio apartment, your head can swell. >> brian: the last one out, i want him to be the leader somewhere. i'm looking forward to your special on this mining disaster, which ended up happy. >> everything you want to do know, and the great thing about it is that we had a role to play. the united states and our technology, our innovative guys, the guy in afghanistan drilling wells there. so as a nation, we also played a role and i'm very glad that president obama spoke with president pineiro. >> gretchen: let's go to california. this has to do with the national organization of women. >> i heard about that. >> gretchen: and jerry down. we know there was that recording from jerry brown. it was a derogatory term against

a woman. >> when did we start calling it the w word? >> gretchen: we're on a morning show? the national organization of women, they%ed jerry brown and they also then said that -- it took them a week to say it was a bad word to use against meg whitman. now you have the head saying i'm going to call her a political. and called her a -- >> so she's a w, the president of the california chapter of now? she's a w herself because she's a hypocrite. >> gretchen: it's crazy. >> i won't say it out of respect to you, i won't say it. i was going to say it to these guys, to just show i don't think there is anything wrong with using it. it's saltly, but it's

traditional. >> gretchen: for our viewers, not me. >> all right. we can argue that, but i won't. arnold schwarzenegger said any politician, republican or democrat, he just said it, he tweeted it yesterday -- any politician, republican or democrat, who changes their vote to court favor with the public union to say they're against pension reform just to court favor and get the endorsement of a union is someone who does not deserve to be elected. they are people who are hypocrites. they are people who are exactly defined by -- >> brian: the issue is more important than the word. >> it is, and i totally believe that if either whitman or brown change their position on pension reform to court favor with the public union, they are exactly as described. >> brian: i got to get your take. let's watch bill o'reilly on "the view" yesterday. you've been in so many

situations. >> i was on there monday. >> brian: let's watch. >> killed us on 9-11. >> oh, my god! >> muslims didn't kill us on 9-11? is that what you're saying? >> extremists. >> what religion was mr. mcveigh? >> 70% of the nation -- i don't want to sit here. i don't. i'm outraged. >> you're outraged about muslims killing us on 9-11? >> i want to say something to all of you. you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. i love my colleague, but that should not have happened. >> steve: he was talking about

the proposed mosque near ground zero and -- >> in an inartful way. >> steve: he said muslims killed us on 9-11 and that's where that started. >> humans killed us on 9-11. i think bill, a dear friend to me and he's been extremely loyal to me the years i've been here at fox, i've known him ten years before that. whoop cree i've known for a quarter of a century. joy bearrest, i think bill was clumsy in his characterization of why the mosque should not be near ground zero. i think bill was himself a pinhead in his expression and bill recognized the inartfulness of his characterization and apologized for it and i think in many ways, this issue was resolved. should whoopie and joy have walked off the set is another issue. i think that -- >> steve: you don't walk off your own show. >> if bill admits he's the pinhead, they have to admit they lacked the gracious -- they were not gracious hosts and they

were -- in walking off, they were as silly as bill in many ways, but they pointed to the conflict -- >> brian: he only missed one word. muslim extremists. they're not just human beings. >> but the comparison they use, and i think it is absolutely correct, is the abortion bombers. they don't say christians blew up the abortion clinic. they say crazy people, or extremists did it. and that is part of the noise that is causing muslim americans to feel besieged and beleaguered and -- >> brian: abortion bombers to al-qaeda, you're comparing? >> do i? why not? aren't they? the difference between abortion clinic bomber and al-qaeda is that there are more people in the twin towers than the abortion clinics. but they are as in every way as

innocent -- >> gretchen: i would argue that joy and whoopie knew what bill o'reilly was saying, that he missed the word extremist, but in the context of the discussion, he was describing that extremist muslims were responsible for 9-11. the show is supposed to be called "the view" and supposed to be able to be classy enough to listen to different views. >> bill is the -- debate became impassioned. bill and i have had famous nose to nose confrontations where i came as close to walking off as i did to have punching him in the nose or being punched in my nose by him. this is a debate that is extremely viceral, people hold strong opinions. this is as close i ever came to a fistfight. i almost leaped on him and so did he, pointing with that big finger of his. i will bite his nail.

i'm going to take you out, i'm -- >> brian: i'm going to watch you at 10:00 o'clock on saturday. >> you better watch. >> gretchen: all right. >> steve: have a good weekend. straight ahead, listen to this, the top democrat says the dust up over republican campaign cash is a bigger scandal than watergate. rnc chair michael steele here to react shortly. >> gretchen: something you don't normally see, a woman running from police. but the surrender even more baffling.

>> brian: the head of the democratic national committee comparing campaign fundraising accusations against republicans to the watergate scandal. here is what he said to a group of reporters. here is the quote. i think this is a huge story. it might end up, i'm not a journalist, but one of the biggest political process stories since watergate. republican national committee chairman michael steele joins us

from chicago. michael, what's he getting at? you know him, you debate him all the time. what's he saying? >> not only is he not a journalist, he's not connected to reality. that's the craziest thing i've ever heard. you know what? i'm tired of democrats making these accusations. put the proof on the table. you are running your mouth, talking trash three weeks before an election. the american people are sick of this crazy washington silliness. put it on the table. you show us where the evidence is. just because you say it, doesn't mean it's true. karl's group, like many or 527s that are beginning to be formed within the republican party is long overdue. we're ten years behind on that. i applaud them to take the step to go out into the marketplace, like the democrats have done with the unions, 527s, no one is investigating those dollars raised. the reality is, this is a legitimate purpose organization. it's legitimately running its

money and let's stop the craziness. put up or shut up. >> brian: it's not like tim kane. he's reallitively level headed. bigger than watergate, it makes me think there is another chapter. it's time to educate that you're different. you have different constrictions. what's the most you could accept? >> the republican national committee, since the onset of mccain-feingold, campaign finance reform, limits them to raising $30,000 per individual max. if you have a wife, then i can get 60. otherwise that's it. karl rove's organization can raise unlimited funds from corporations, unlimited funds from individuals. so you, brian, could write a million dollars check to karl rove's group, whereas you could only write may check for $30,000. so when you hear all this back

and forth about the republican national committee and its fundraising, i got severe restrictions on what i can raise. >> brian: we only have is a few seconds. you're on the fire pelosi bus tour. it looks like if that's going to happen. >> oh, yes. we're here in chicago, we're going to be with either case running against jesse jackson, junior today. this is an exciting campaign effort. our grassroots are fired up, but not just the republican grassroot, the tea party activists we've seen, our independents, all voters out there are engaged in this race. we would like you to go to www.firepelosibus.com. >> brian: i like the outfit. it's dressed up yet sporty. thanks so much. see you soon. coming up straight ahead, election right around the corner and more people say they're struggling. are lawmakers even paying issue to the issues? william lajeunesse is asking

americans like you. and the face of the democratic party comparing the gop fundraising operations to watergate. really? karl rove here live. that's his picture.

>> gretchen: new british study suggests cancer is man made. the university of manchester says the study of mummies found almost no cancer and proposes that modern environment factors may account for the disease. a wild police chase across los angeles ends in a surprising place. the suspect's house. police say a 28-year-old woman knew exactly where she was going when she led them across three counties. sometimes going as fast as 100 miles per hour. she eventually pulled into her own driveway and ran into her house and then she was arrested. >> steve: i got to pick something up. where are my keys? straight ahead, we're going to talk about --

>> brian: she had her keys. >> steve: you're right. candidates are out in full force ahead of the midterm elections. what issues matter the most to everyday americans? william lajeunesse spoke to voters and he joins us live from los angeles. good morning, bill. >> four weeks, 12 cities, we interviewed 100 people for this series, listening to america. one conclusion, steve, voters are really not giving up on washington even though they feel disillusioned by it. >> we may be seeing the beginning of the end of the recession. >> whether he said it last year or last month -- >> we have to keep doing everything we can to accelerate this recovery. >> voters at this diner -- >> i don't think it's getting any better. >> this beach. >> i don't think it's getting any better. >> and this city. >> i'm getting rid of my second car. >> don't feel the recession is over. >> i don't have cable anymore. i no long have is a land line.

i don't drive my car. i'm walking home for lunch. >> i can't hardly afford to do anything but go to the beach. >> my wife lives in kingman and i live here working 'cause there is no work in kingman. >> a lot of customers come in here and they're struggling. >> in plymouth, massachusetts, some diners trust washington. >> i think they're looking out for us. >> others don't. >> barak obama, i don't trust anybody that's really, really in public. >> what's the solution? >> stop spending and quit sending jobsover seas. >> others worry half of american households are receiving welfare. >> we're in trouble. >> our values are just backless. >> there have to be limits on social welfare programs so that people don't get used to them. >> others say it's time to put america first. >> would you pay more for an american product? >> yes. >> i'm going to buy something made in idaho, it's double the price. >> absolutely. i drive a ford.

>> the last question we asked, we didn't have time to get into, is the idea of allowing people to put 2% of their social security money into the stock market a radical idea by about two to one margin, they said no, provided they had the choice. back to you. >> steve: all right. william lajeunesse live in the bureau. thank you very much. with points of view you don't hear much out of california. >> brian: good job. >> gretchen: what's better than a guest, a tv guest walking off the set? the show's own host leaving the set! bill o'reilly had the magic touch with the ladies on "the view." he joins us next to explain their meltdown. >> brian: then karl rove on the couch.nn enough said.

>> everybody is talking about making the palestinians palestie israelis sit down and talk in the middle east. we can't even get the ladies of "the view" to sit down and talk with bill o'reilly. he did something on the show that made whoopie and joy walk off the set. he showed up. very tense. >> gretchen: that was very perceptive because the body language with the ladies the minute he sat down was not friendly. bill o'reilly anchored the factor and joins us on the phone, along with karl rove sitting right there. so bill, a big day for you, a big dustup. what was your final take now that it's been almost 24 hours?

>> i guess i'm a little discouraged with the liberal point of view as espoused by geraldo a few minutes ago on "fox & friends." i'm a little tired of this, that somehow the left wing in america will not come to grips with the fact that there is a problem in the muslim world. >> gretchen: yep. >> a problem. all right? we're fighting them in afghanistan, fighting them in iraq. we might fight them in iran. they cause trouble, they being muslim extremists all over the world. after ten years, i think any intelligent person knew what i was talking about in that mosque debate. but they wanted, they want, all right, they being the far left, i would say, but even geraldo, they want you to be politically correct in defining a life-death struggle. i'm just not going to do it

anymore. >> steve: sure. we got, for people who did not see it and it would be hard to believe because it's the media clip of the week, or maybe the month -- we're going to play about a minute's worth. >> gretchen: rove didn't see it? >> i was on an airplane. >> i told you! >> the latest news i get. but i have watched the clip three times this morning. >> gretchen: let's watch it a fourth. >> muslims killed us on 9-11 clam. >> no! oh, my god! >> muslims didn't kill us on 9-11? is that what you said? >> it's extremists. >> what religion was mr. mcveigh? mr. mcveigh was extremist. >> 70% of the country -- >> i don't want to sit here. i don't.

[ cheers and applause ] >> i want to say something. i want to say something to all of you. you have just seen what should not happen. we should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking off stage. i love my colleagues, but it should not have happened. >> steve: but then after barbara took her co-hosts to task, she kind of was trying to call you a pinhead for saying that in the first place. >> yeah. that's okay. i think barbara is entitled to her opinion. if you think i'm a pinhead for trying to tell the truth about a situation and remember why we were even discussing this, my thesis backed up by the polls says that president obama has separated himself from 70% of the american public in this issue. okay? that's why i was talking about it anyway. but if barbara wants to think i'm a pinhead for the way i presented the material, i don't have any problem with that. >> gretchen: but bill --

>> brian: she didn't leave. >> gretchen: she didn't leave, but let's turn the table here's for a minute. what if president obama had been on that show or any other high level democrat and he had gotten into a screaming match with elizabeth hasslebeck and she had gotten up and left, she would have been fired probably. right? >> i don't know. i don't like those hypotheticals. i think that there is a very serious issue here. the american left, and i'm generalizing now -- i think it's probably more accurate to say the far left -- does not want to confront what we have to confront in america. >> brian: karl rove, do you see a bigger issue than just a bunch of women that don't like bill o'reilly? >> i do think he's right. there is an insensitivity on the left and an attitude toward civil discussion where you can't have it toward a conservative. you have a conservative viewpoint, it has to be dismissed and discredited. i think barbara walters did a

good job. when she did that, they came back on because i think they understood, this is a mistake. bill had won the debate the moment joy got up and walked off. >> let me submit something here. okay. the muslim extremist thing, unfortunately in my naive state, i assume people know that almost ten years after this. >> gretchen: i've been saying that. >> right. i mean, i assume that that is now ingrained. i will go back to world war ii, the analogy i made on the factor last night. we didn't say japanese extremists attacked us at pearl harbor. okay? and believe me when i tell you, probably most of the japanese people didn't want any part of that war. >> world war ii was a nation state versus nation state. >> it doesn't matter. we're in a new world now.

we're being attacked by a group. >> we need to make certain that we divorce the vast bulk of muslims from the extremists and radicals behind terrorism. >> we also need to define that there is a problem in the muslim world. >> absolutely. when you say muslim fanatics -- >> the killers could not exist, all right, if all the moderate muslims would join america against them. and that is what we refuse to confront. i'm tired of it. >> steve: you and made it very clear with the talking points last night. it looked like those two ladies were on a hair trigger anyway. bill, we want to talk a little bit about what's going on. usually the pbs station in las vegas, not much goes on. but last night, 60 minutes, two candidate, they got along on nothing. here is harry reid and sharron angle who wants harry's job at

the debate. >> i believe my number one job is to create jobs as united states senate. >> harry reid, it's not your job to create jobs. it's your job to create policies that create the confidence for the private sector, to create those jobs. >> insurance companies don't do things out of the goodness of their hearts. they do it out of the profit motive and they have almost destroyed our economy. >> america is about choices and we need to allow people to have those choices. the free market will weed out those companies that don't offer as many choices and don't have a cost effective system. >> brian: i hate those companie that go for profit. >> they brought down the american economy. what world is he on? >> gretchen: isn't this a philosophical difference between democrats and republican, bill o'reilly? >> it's clear that the democratic party has embraced that the government has to hire

its way out and spend its way out of the recession and the republican party says the private sector has to do it. therefore, you have to give them tax breaks and get off their back and all of that. it's very clear to anybody paying attention that that is the divide. >> brian: and there is the majority leader who also said this: george bush, who is my friend, and i mean that. my favorite line of the -- >> my favorite line of the evening. i used to have to take those calls where he said, i didn't mean to call him a loser in my speech. they put it into the text and i didn't read it in advance. who is he kidding? >> gretchen: his friend last night during the debate. thanks for getting up other, bill, and joining us today and for making me a pit i can't tell for doing a little -- patriot for doing a little dance move. >> just remember, pinheads and patriots, that's what we were promoting here. >> brian: you're on the cover, barak obama was on the cover. and that was the battle we saw on "the view" last night. >> steve: check it out.

>> brian: last night, your final thought. did he do enough? did harry reid do enough to keep the spot? >> no. the expectations for angle were low and she really came in and did well. harry reid was sort of at times, harry reid. >> steve: karl rove is with us. less than three terms until the midterm election and the claws are coming out. president obama is claiming foreign money might steal the election and brian was talking with michael steele. tim kane is comparing the fundraising issue to watergate. man, are you a trouble maker. >> no, i'm not. i'm simply doing what the democrats have been doing for the better part of a decade. chairman kane should be embarrassed. >> steve: what is he talking about? >> we have accepted no money from foreign individuals or foreign companies. we report at cross roads reports all of its donors every month. >> steve: there is absolute israeli no foreign money? >> no, absolutely not. and there has been no evidence

whatsoever that there is. they've offered up this challenge -- and made these claims without a single bit of evidence. we call that generally a smear. i think the respected journalist who heads up fact check said it right. he said accusing somebody of a criminal violation of the law is a serious allegation demanding serious evidence. the democrats have offered none. this is a smear. >> gretchen: they're operating out of a play book right now, because the president did it and the vice president did it. and by all accounts he's a fair guy. >> no, he's not. he's a lap dog. >> steve: in the "wall street journal," you lay out three possible scenarios why they're doing it. >> one scenario is -- the most important is this, they don't have anything to run on. they can't talk about the stimulus. they can't -- the cap and trade bill was so bad, they couldn't get the committee to bring it up and pass it. they got enormous spending.

ballooning deficits, health care bill that is less popular by the day. if you can't run on what you got and they don't have anything that they're talking about for the future, then what do you do? you fall back on some cheesy trick like this. the thing that let's me is the president of the united states has demeaned his office by making a criminal allegation without doing anything, without providing any evidence. >> brian: could you bring legal action? >> you know, lawyers are looking at it. but i'm a public figure, so sullivan versus the "new york times" applies and the president and the vice president and the chairman of the democratic national committee could say anything about me. they could say i was a practicing -- and get away with it. >> brian: what does that mean? >> i'm a stamp collector. >> gretchen: is that in your book? >> yes, it was. as a matter of fact. >> steve: sit right here for just a moment 'cause we got to talk about the weather because many people are traveling. where are you going next? >> to austin, texas.

>> steve: let's take a look. it's currently dry down there. dry across much of the across, except portions of the ohio valley. portions of the northeast. temperatures will rise, right now a 3 in the dallas-fort worth area. about the same for many spots across the country and later on, mr. rove, 85 in your beloved dallas-fort worth. it's a pleasure. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> brian: what a crazy two weeks this has been for you. >> gretchen: coming up, is there a media bias to take down the tea party? we report, you decide coming up. >> brian: 33 miners saved. it's not the only proof hope is still alive. peter johnson, jr. explains. first, let's check in with the weekend geniuses. >> we're busy thinking over here. >> we don't want to express any brain power. coming up on the show, we'll look at voter fraud less than three weeks from the election. the early voting issue and

military members, possibly not getting their ballots counted. >> then mortgage giant fannie and freddie paid millions for tarp. >> an incredible inside look through the lens of a storm chaser. the amazing images from some of the most dangerous twisters. that's coming up this weekend. 7:00 a.m. to 10:00 o'clock eastern time.

the world watched as 33 thillian miners were rescued after being buried alive for 69 days. what can their amazing story teach us? peter johnson, jr. has a special message. >> good morning, gretchen. how often have you heard about hope in the past few years? and in these tough times, how often is hope become reality? not often enough, or so we think. this week the world rallied around hope for 33 men who were trapped in a mine in chile, who

worried in the words of one family member, that they weren't sure that someone would even come to look for them. hope became resolve ask resolve became success and in that moment of supreme human joy, their hopes and ours were realized. thanksgiving had come early. in a world full of conflict, in a world driven by controversy, accustomed to almost devotional study of man made and natural disaster, it was as if an angel touched us on our shoulder and awakened us to the pleasure of reveling in the joy of other humans who we will never meet and whose experience we will never understand. we realized, as we do from time to time, that we could be refreshed and renewed by other tears of happiness. it seemed to provoke the comforting realization that yes, someone would come look for us, too, in the dark recesses of the earth. like you, i was overjoyed. but then reality returned. the burdens of daily life.

i asked out loud, here at fox, how is a nation do we dare to hope in the face of foreclosure, unemployment, family and friends in harm's way, and a wise man here at fox said to me, sometimes all it takes is looking just a little more closely at the world around us. like a 12-year-old boy in keller, texas, who this week came out of a coma he had been in for five days. let me tell you about him, young jack collapsed of a heart attack at home. his mother pounded life in his heart and air into his lungs and he spent five days in a coma. this past tuesday, jack woke up and gave his doctors a big thumbs up and returned the kiss of life to his mother. they are now calling him the comeback kid. in august, three-year-old girl couldn't rouse her father who had collapsed in their home. the girl, who knew from her family that the california fire

station 243 was a safe place to go for help, walked two blocks to fire station on her own and led the firefighters home, saving her unconscious father's life. these events prove that very often from our worst fears can spring our greatest hopes. for each of us, our fears and hopes are different. so it is rare that this week that all the cameras and all the eyes of the world were focused on one hole in the ground, a virtual delivery room for our greatest expectations where the earth looked like it was giving birth to hope. hour after hour, miner after miner, it shows how we can focus our own lens a little more closely on the things around us, to listen a little more carefully because if we take the time to look and to listen, we can find hope in a 12-year-old texas boy or a three-year-old california girl who may live

just around the corner. so i'm peter johnson, jr. on a hopeful friday in new york city, usa. gretchen. >> gretchen: all right. thanks very much for those words. the tea party gaining momentum in its fight against big government spending, but apparently some members of the main stream media think the tea party is wrong. next, a look at this week's media bias. first, let's check in with martha mccallum for what's on at the top of the hour. >> thank you. sharron angle tells harry reid to man up. so how did the former boxer do in the ring? it's neck in neck right now in nevada and they could oust the majority leader there. we'll show you the showdown that's going on. as the pakinstani taliban coming back to finish the job in times square? that chilling report coming up minutes from now. join us in "america's newsroom."

>> brian: the tea party is known for its opposition against spending. why was the success of the stimulus touted while interviewing a tea partier? >> they're spending money we don't have, spending our children and their children's money and people are react to go that. >> where would we be today were it not for the stimulus or the bailouts of the banks and the auto industry? >> we might have been better off. >> steve: really? is there a media bias against the tea party? joining us is the president of the media research center, mr. brent bozelle who joins us from the dc area. good morning. >> good morning. how are you doing? >> steve: doing okay. like you, i had to kind of laugh when dean reynolds from cbs, sure kind of sounds like he's leading the witness.

where would we be? >> we'd be less in debt is where we'd be. here is the president who rolled up a higher debt than, what is it, george washington through ronald reagan combined. he's done it in less than two years. the stimulus package was supposed to be nothing about jobs, job, jobs and it didn't do it. it failed. everyone knows it failed. that's why the left is in so much trouble right now. here this guy, dean recognize, touting the success of something that didn't work. >> brian: not only that, the story in "new york times" coming out this weekend quotes the president saying, i found out in my first two years, there is no such thing as a shovel ready project, which -- >> but brian, didn't they also tell us that they had to pass this thing immediately and there wasn't time to read it because we had to get to work on it right away? you can't have it both ways. >> steve: which way is harry smith trying to do it? over on the early show on tuesday, he said this, listen.

>> time to govern and better yet, how about this one, if a tug of war starts between the tea party folk and the main stream republican, who is going to win that tug of war? >> steve: okay. can anger govern? that's not a loaded question, is it? >> have you not heard this before? this is bad groundhog day. it's 1994 all over again. don't you remember the late peter jennings talking about on election day, about how america threw a temper tantrum and the country can't be governed by an angry two-year-old? it was all about anger. it was all about hate. that's what happens when conservatives win. when liberals win, it's hope and change and coming together. it's so transparent what they're doing. >> steve: indeed it is. brent, always a pleasure. we thank you very much. we'll step aside. more "fox & friends" in two minutes. start counting.

>> gretchen: log on for our after the show show where we're going to learn all about the personal lives of the weekend crew. >> brian: if you have to run to the radio, do