how dare you break up on [bleep] on facebook! >> ouch. well, it was for a good cause. that's your last call. lights are blinking and we are closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight. we will see you monday. make sure you check out our facebook fan page. services, inc [ applause ] >> glenn: well, hello, america. we are facing tough economic times. as much as you have to go out and vote, you have to go out

and vote and you have to find somebody, somebody, anybody that can help reign in monstrosity that we are creating in washington. things are upside down. mortgages are underwater. foreclosures, banks are going under. while you have to vote, i hope i'm wrong but i don't believe i am. things are going to speed up after the election. economically things will get worse before they get better. they have to. the body is sick. we're riddled with corruption and greed. we haven't solved any of the problems -- we haven't talked about the problems that got us here. and the government is giving us poison in this arm and saying i'm just giving you some medicine over here. we are now going to punish the

rich with taxes. when i say "rich" i mean people that make $250,000 a year. that may be more than what you make and it may seem like a lot of money but the people who are making $250,000 likely started out making as much or less than you are now. they've done some things that put them in that situation. $250,000 is a lot of money, unless you are running a small business. out of the $250,000 comes maybe your salary. and they're being demonized in the press. the government doesn't understand that rich people are not out buying yachts. okay, george soros, but he is a spooky dude. they're not off shopping and redecorating their mansions, because most of the, quote/unquote, rich, are small business owners, entrepreneurs. they are the backbone of our economy.

and members of your community. these are the people that have an idea, likely very similar to the one that you have. almost every job. 80% of all jobs in america when america is suffering 80% of all new jobs come from small business owners. they are having a tough time. i have a room full of them tonight. how many are afraid of this current environment that you don't know you can actually continue to keep your doors open if it continues to spiral down? look at that. let's call a spade a spade or a weasel a weasel. the politicians are going to let the tax, bush tax cuts expire.

they didn't pass anything because they don't have to. they just expire and they go i didn't vote for that. that's why they just expire. that's the plan from the beginning. you don't have to vote on this going up because this is the largest tax increase in american history co..ing after the first of the year. plus we have more. obama care around the corner. looming tax hike make it harder for small business to keep their doors open. these people create jobs and they represent the spirit of america. what used to be the american dream. what the politicians don't understand is starting a small business is not about money. it's not about being rich. who here thinks if you start out with the idea of being rich you're most likely going to fail? it's not about money. the money in the end represents freedom, but not the freedom that you're like

yes, lovie, let's go to beach. who travels around like thurston howell with a trunk full of money? nobody. george soros. other than him, not that kind of freedom. it's the freedom to call your own shots, do your own thing. often the freedom to fail, which stinks. you know what? it's an honor. it's a privilege to be allowed to fail. every day we are learning more and more and nobody will let you fail. how do you learn to pick yourself up and try again? no one says i just hate working, i'm going to start a small business. nobody says that. the work is hard. honestly, as a small business own toer myself, i have to tell you something. first success isn't guaranteed. and be careful what you wish for.

i have 46 employees just in new york right now. this city, you think the country is bad. liver in iowa. oh, sure, the government is offtrack. sure. try in new york city. in new york state, in the new united states of america. it's like three strikes and you're out. not only hard work but how many here have sleepless nights thinking about just their employees. and how am i going to keep so-and-so with health insurance because they have problems and i don't want them in the government system? how many people thought if this falls apart how do i do this to my employees? you how do i not pay them? how do i fire them? how many. most people a that are successful don't make it to bill gates level.

otherwise bill gates wouldn't walk around and you'd go is that bill gates? there would be a lot of them. some make it big, but then what do they do? they usually start another business or expand. or move to the next great idea. the money is reinvested. tonight we meet with small business owners that pay everybody else before they get paid. to start a business or launch a new product, you need to have money. you need capital. in the end if succeed, you took all the risk. you took the risk. you were the one up late worrying about it. pacing the floor. there were lots of time i wish not seriously because i enjoy following my heart and dreams.

but there are times i wish i could close to door and say i don't care, not my deal. business owners don't do that. if i've done all of that work and all these people have, shouldn't it be up to them how to reinvest in their business? or give to a charity? or to start another business? shouldn't they have the right, it's their money? wouldn't we count on the successful people to do it again? should it be up to you? should it be up to washington? if they can keep their money? i mean, after all, there comes a point you can make too much. really? have you called george soros? we're putting ourself in a place we're not competitive anymore. why? there is too many erestrictions. i saw a study that said microsoft would not be able to be done today. a guy in his garage could not

come up with an idea and start microsoft. what have we turned into? u.s. is a place where you have the freedom to think and do the unthinkable. do you know the story of fedex? fedex went to everier around. "nobody needs their documents overnight. that's ridiculous!" that's what they said. nobody would give them a loan. nobody needs it that fast. really? it was somebody thinking the unthinkable. it's people that look like they're crazy in the beginning. you know what i'm going to do, i'm going to make a vacuum tube with wires in it and plug it in and it will give us light. okay! they are doing things nobody else tried or a different way that nobody else thought of. you can't try crazy stuff

anymore. because you can't fail, can't take the risk. no no, no. that might be damaging to the little fluffy wide-eyed owl. this used to be a country where everybody came and dreamt. they're like if i could just get to america. i could be free enough to do it. the question is, is it today, still that country? will it be tomorrow? are we going to a direction that allows people to go man, if i could just be free to try it. are we moving in that direction or away from it? that is a question we should ask every day. encourage legal immigration. i'm telling you, somebody needs to make a stand for a new ellis island. we should have three or four on the border.

ellis island back. a place where you come in. hi, what's your name? what you got? what kind of skill? why are you here? any diseases that maybe we ave money.spreading around? can you take care of yourself? we don't want the people taking care of you can. you take care of yourself? you don't have money, do you have skill? can you make us better? do you understand what this country is? can you speak the language? what kind of prison do you live in when you can't speak the language? we need the best and brightest and encourage them to say. right now we can't get to microsoft. we can't get the best to stay here. they go away. they begged under george bush and begged under obama. can you change us? we need the best and brig

brightest. you should want to stay here. now it's like nah, why? have you seen the debt? if we're going to pay for that, we need the next 1,000 big things. but the ability to come up with the next big thing, not even that. the ability to live your dreams. life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. life. nobody is going to take me off the streets and snatch me off the streets and throw me in jail. nobody can just kill me. liberty. i am free to do the things. how am i free? i'm free to pursue my happiness. to pursue my happiness, i have to know my stuff is protected. i have to leave my farm and leave my family. i can't be watching my stuff

and do my job. i need a government that will just do enough to make sure nobody is stealing my stuff. but the government is now stealing my stuff. hollywood. politicians. everybody. they made the dream into something other than i just want a shot. they made it into something it's not. big house, granite countertops and big room like i've seen on the jersey shore. it's great. how wives, jersey. if i could live that dream. that dream is a nightmare. you can get a car you can't afford, and you may be in this situation now. i remember having -- this is the only car i could afford was 1971 thunderbird. it drank gasoline. it may have gotten four miles

to the gallon. i was making nothing. i remember counting the change out. i'd like $2.93 of gas, please. that is tough. that is tough. it's not about gas, big cars, big houses. it's about pursuing your dream. not a guaranteed outcome. i'm living the american dream. not because i have a nice house or a nice car. my dream was always just to do radio. i wanted to work at rockefeller plaza. i wanted to work in radio city. when i first moved to new york city, this time around, i built my studios. i was about to build my studios in radio city. then somebody said we can make that happen for you. oh, yeah.

i let 7,000 square feet in rockefeller plaza sit empty for a year because i didn't pay a bribe. i won't sully myself. you can't build good business on bad foundations. ever since i was a kid i wanted to work on radio. i didn't want to do television. i wanted to be on stage. i wanted to entertain. i'm living my dream. my dream never had anything to do with money. ever. for a while i was drinking and it became that and i destroyed myself. my dream has everything to do with an uneducated man with idea. a kid who says i'm going to do something. then do it. i wasn't handed the opportunity. throughout my life i failed. i failed more than i succeeded but i never gave up. i kept pushing and pushing and

pushing before i found the right spot, the right thing to do, the right time. most importantly, the truth inside of me. i'm the product in me. if i'm not real, then you are going to see through that like that. that is the american dream. if you keep trying and following what you do and sometimes you fall flat on your face. you might break your noise or break the system. as soon as you know the rules you intelligently break the rules. i'm not the law. the rules. you think out of the box. no, everybody says it should be done this way. i don't think so. that is the dream. instead we made the dream about the payoff. money is not the payoff. i wasn't successful until i understood this. money is byproduct of what you're making. whatever is it you're make, whatever is it you're doing. when you stopped focussing on the money and you started

focussing on the dream and focussing on what you love. on the best product. or even better, your customers. did anybody else go oh, my gosh! i didn't notice. look at the business and how much it's grown. am i right? money is the byproduct. it's just the stuff that owe now use to plow back in to employ more and more people. they sold the idea that the american dream can be bought at a store or on a lot. it can't. that's a perversion. that is a sad perversion. you'll never get those things unless you take them from others. if your goal is that. i gave a questionnaire to the studio audience and we'll talk

to them in a second. they're entrepreneurs, small business owners. one question i asked what inspired you to start your business? the answers varied but generally about freedom and responsibility. i wanted to be my own boss. i have didn't want to answer to anybody. let me ask you this. nobody really wants to be their own boss. they just want people to stop telling them what to do. because how many of us worked in a place especially and in this country you know the death of a company is around the corner when the attorneys start arriving. as soon as the attorneys start arriving, then you have to answer to them. you're like this isn't fun anymore. you worked at a place where you are like if they would just get these think people out of the way, we'd be a great company. other answers, i wanted to prove that i could. that i could do it. if i could follow my passion, i could make it.

how about this? i wanted a better chance to earn a little more money. no one said, no one said i did it to get rich. they said they did it for the opportunity. well, i think that is the american dream. we'll talk to these people, yeah, thurston howell and lovie i hear. they all came off the golf course to join us. you came right off the yacht. yeah. we'll talk to them next.

>> glenn: we have a potpourri of small businesses here. in the break, i got to know everybody, a little bit of what everybody does. we have a little bit of everything in the audience. the reason i want to talk to small business openers is because these are the ones that are being demonized. how many are chamber members? chamber of commerce members? two? no. they're in with foreign governments trying to destroy us. let me introduce somebody. amelia andoneti wrote the book

"recipe, a fable for leaders and teams." you actually got in to small business when you found out thattior child was gravely ill. what happened? s>> doctor said i think you need to let this one go. it spun downward. >> glenn: they said that about your child? let this one go? >> yeah. >> glenn: nice bedside manner. >> my world came to the end. i did everything right, i was ready for the baby. it started the cycle going back and forth to doctors and i said i'm going to take them back, follow the instinct and go outside of the box. i don't care what it is. i'll hang crystals, whatever i have to do. but i wasn't going to the end and lose without giving up a fight. found out from keeping a journal he was having allergic reaction to the chemicals in my home. i didn't know i had chemicals. i said i'm going to go to the store and buy soap. there is no soap.

it's detergent after deter jeny. chemical after chemical. it called my grandmother and she said we used to make them. i said what do you mean? she said we used to make soap. i said show me to do that. and i started to cook on the stovetop and grated it in plate and my first little laundry. i rallied the community to help me. >> glenn: what is the name of your company? >> soap works. >> glenn: have i seen your soap before? >> i'm sure everybody has. >> is it the pretty soap, clear stuff? >> we turned it into a family of products. when i started my company there was no such thing as "green." it was just a color. i said i wanted to be -- >> glenn: it is. no, it is. [ laughter [ laughter ] >> michael is in the top and a green guy. what does that mean? >> i wanted to take on the big boys and i said look, if women knew what was in the product they'd choose something

different. they said it's never been done, you can't do this. we took it all the way -- >> glenn: if you had one piece of advice for somebody and said, you know, you want to start something or you want to live the same way you are, what would you -- how would you encourage somebody? what was the turning point for you? i know it was extreme. but what was the thing that people can relate to that don't have a sick child? >> it was how many people stood behind me and said you go, girl. we're behind you. will you put your dollar where your mouth is? will you support me? trying to do something that is never done before. the community embraced me and i in turn embrace the community. every time we open up a new office or business. we embrace them and they turn -- we're part of the fabric of the community. the community can't survive without the small business. but the small business can't survive without the community. >> it is, i've come to a place with my listeners and viewers

to where the greatest thing said in the "new york times" about me in the latest article was that they can't believe how many of my listeners or viewers come up and hug me. they said what other tv or radio host gets so many hugs? besides oprah. how many get hugs? i view my listeners and viewers as friends. i've always treated them with respect. i value their time and their money and everything else. when you do that, that's the part that is always left out when they talk about greedy businesses. if you get that way, you screw your customers and you lose in the end. when you make them your friend and treat them right and you're like this is good for you and me. >> they're part of us. they invite me in their home. the first time i saw someone pull my product off the shelf i cried. i couldn't believe they chose me. it's an emotional connection we have with the customers. we'll fight for them. >> glenn: some people, if you

are thinking about -- i am telling you the secret to success for america is foster the entrepreneurial spirit, teach people to be businessman and get past the fear on holy cow, but i -- it's a scary time to start a business. there are some answers on that. we'll delve into those next. ñ÷

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for "special report." back to glenn. ♪ ♪ >> glenn: we are talking about the american dream and the entrepreneurial spirit. a room full of small business owners -- yes, the rich people, that won't even miss their money. and what it took for them to, and what it takes for them to still be a small business owner today. patrick has an interesting story. patrick you started out in iran. >> i did. definitely. i remember living there when the war happened between iran and iraq. i lived there until i was ten years old. my parents, my mother, my father, my sister we used to pray about one day, one day having a shot of coming to america. i never forget watching movies like "gremlins," "goonies,"

"ghost busters" -- >> glenn: it's just like that! >> it's hilarious translated when you watch it. >> glenn: i bet. >> we used to fantasize about one day coming here. in '89, we left for germany and left for a refugee camp. from there, november 28, we came here and i fell in love with this place. it's a special country. i have went to school, didn't do well in school. i had 1.8 g.p.a. in high school. failed a ton of classes and did very well in math. afterwards, i joined the military. at the 100 airborne division. had a great time, got out and got involved in business. i never forget when one of my mentors said you have to become entrepreneur. i got involved in the financial industry and started off with a large firm in beverly hills and went to another firm, chairman of that company. last year, september 25 i

resigned from october to become a professional company, helping people. >> glenn: which is what? >> financial marketing organization. to an average person when i explain the company they say you are a financial company. to us it's more like a crusade, a cause, a movement. it's hard toke plain it because if our p.h. people are watching this they will say they know what we're talking about. we put an event together last year, march. never forget i had dinner with george will in march of 2009 at miramar hotel. prior to that i was bored. a quote that inspired me, mankind is lazy until something catches their heart. like something caught our heart. i got inspired after george well's message about the younger guys, 20, 30, 40-year-old knuckleheads who are not educated, we need to do something about it. >> glenn: it i amazing how so many people are not, are not -- they don't think now that younger, don't think that they can make it.

john, when did you start your business? you and randy? you're brothers. >> yes. 1985. >> glenn: you are in the -- >> hardwood flooring contract. construction. >> glenn: you started not with a lot of money. >> no. started from scratch. >> glenn: what happened? >> like i said, on the way coming in, i was married, he wasn't. there were many weeks, many times that we went without pay where the employees got paid. >> glenn: how many people have done that? you've gone without pay yourself. because you had to pay them. >> then a tradition held down, not just from the folks and those values, but i an employer beforehand that did that for me. >> glenn: right. >> and the core american value doesn't need to be told to me

by the government. the american people know what's good. >> glenn: they're good. that's why i have great faith in this country. we'll take care of each other. we will help each other. >> we're in business 37 years. >> glenn: what do you do? >> waste hauling company on long island. >> glenn: all right. >> my husband told me the story the first time. in the carter administration when the construction companies just all folded. and he located a truck. and decided to go into business. he would have to hide the truck so it wouldn't be repossessed until we could get the money together to make the payment for that month. we'd find another location. now we have a fleet of peter builts. 37 years. that's a long time. we do a lot with the government. you know that's difficult. every time we turn around, fingerprinting. >> glenn: i mean, to haul

somebody's -- >> yes. we are regulated on long island and everyone who does this business, you have to be in certain facilities, papered to death where a load comes from and going -- >> glenn: how many people here seen increase in paperwork and that stuff? what does it do to you? mark, what does it do to you? maria? any of you? >> it takes half my morning is all paperwork. i wait for the mail. >> it turns us into unpaid employees of a government. >> glenn: it what? >> it turns us into unpaid employees of the government. >> glenn: what do you do for a living? >> we buy and we recycle high-end medical imaging equipment. >> glenn: so you spend your day serving another boss that does nothing. >> right. it's a boss who often will not be sensitive to what you are trying to accomplish. >> glenn: sometimes hostile to it. mark? >> real estate. real estate transaction, the

file is an inch-and-a-half six. i usually give it to my wife to take care of it. it's unbelievable that there is so much paperwork, which most of it is not even regular person -- >> glenn: where are you from? >> poland. i escaped the communism. >> glenn: have you seen this road before? >> yes. i came to america to have a dream. to have americans, to live an american dream. now i have a nightmare. it's really terrible the way i see the country progressive with this government and the previous administration as well. >> glenn: yeah. >> we are going the same direction. i wouldn't call it just socially. it's full-fledged communism, where we are headed. >> glenn: we just found this, f.d.r. advisor, i don't know if you saw the show we found this book. found it in one library and looked it up. it's something new called state capitalism.

everyone is saying the world is progressing toward china. that's what, it's communism. but they call it now state capitalism. okay. back in a second. @ç]ñ

>> glenn: all right. we're small business owner, entrepreneurs and michael.

you said something in the break. >> all of those people who have been let go, pushed aside during the recession, think about what you've learned. i used to work for a software company. think about what you learned in your business, and take that and make your own jobs, start your own business, believe in yourself. and don't listen to the naysayers, but if you have it in yourself, you can do it. >> without a doubt. >> i lost my job because i wasn't happy with the ethics of my boss. it was all about the work. we made signs and we love the artistry of it. without a job, right before christmas. one paycheck away from poverty. i started working on the street and work out of pay phone and developed a business. no good time to start. take what you have, and roll with it. there is never a perfect time. just do it.

>> glenn: cara you and andy started a business. what is it? >> production. he's rerecording mixer and i'm in production. >> glenn: you guys are just starting. >> operating for two-and-a-half years. >> glenn: what happened? >> we have the skills, we had the ambition. we need the mentorship. especially in this particular industry. we need somebody who can really mentor us through the shark infested waters. we look at each other often and go this does not make sense. we are educated and we know how to do this. we kept hitting walls. can anyone speak to mentorship and how to find it? >> you have to ask. hunt somebody down who can make a difference in their life and chase them down and help them mentor. i'll help you. ask for the help.

the girlfriend network is far reaching. >> glenn: i am as a business person, i'm hungry to find people like that. you can find people who will barely work everywhere. i'm hungry. let me make a prediction. there will be times now. god works in amazing ways. and he never -- i don't think he trusts humans. he never really tells everybody the whole story. why don't you just go stand over there with that box. and you're like what? that's a stupid -- go stand over there by the box. if you actually will to him, you will pick up the box and stand there and before you know something else will happen. i think people will start coming out of the woodwork. people will, if you long for people standing with the box, you're like my gosh, that box. follow that and pursue it. they won't know why they are standing on the box, but god is doing amazing things. i believe he is -- >> got to stand up and ask the question. my mentor has been amazing to me. i absolutely turn around and mentor other women. >> glenn: there is -- i want

to tell you about a guy. john huntsman senior. this is the guy who invented the egg cart. i was just with him last week. i know. same thing. what did they do without egg cartons? one of your things like oh, yeah, they always had egg car tops. styrofoam plastic cups, knives and forks. all of that stuff was him. now the largest private chemical corporation in the world. he found out that sigh ra foam was bad -- styrofoam was bad for the environment, turned it off. stopped making it. this book.y entrepreneur shouldd this book. "winners never cheat." if everyone had the ethics of this man, the world would be a different place. i was just in his offices last week. the product, a lot of them were killing your child i'm sure because he makes a lot of soap. but the products he's responsible for, and he makes

is incredible. i got down to the end of this hallway and there were all these gold records on the wall. he's a chemical guy. john, what are the gold records for? they're from the '60s. he said you remember cape town? yeah. it was my idea. he said before there was catell, i needed money to be able to have the money to create the egg idea. so i thought well, i'd like a compilation album of all the '50s and '60s and christmas. he sold i don't know how many million of records. he came up with that idea to fund his big idea. it's really amazing. he's my mentor now. they'll be there. you find the people that have the ethics. ethics. [ inaudible ] >> i don't drink coffee, but yes, yes we can. back in a second.

>> glenn: the secret to saving our country is not going to come from washington. it will come from people like you, people who have a dream and want to pursue it and are just not going to take it.

they're just not going to let their country go down the drain. they can find a better way. don? >> as you said during the warm-up, as business owners, we act as the hub and our employees are the spokes that make the wheel go around. we have to recognize as a culture we should be interlocking wheels and take the expertise that we learn from being in business to ourselves and look to ways to project it to other people who may or may not have the same business idea but face many of the same problems. >> glenn: would you say people are starting to lock arms a little bit? they're starting to -- can you comment on that? >> i just think that, i think that the circumstances of what we're living in right now has pushed people to finally express themselves. it also to help each other. a saying year ago if you

looked for a penny every single day you would find one. if you kept your eyes open and you spoke about i need a mentor. if your antenna are out and keep them out and you just ride the river of that, honestly it will come to you. >> glenn: people are beacons. as you think so shall it be. you are a beacon. and you just have to pay -- dismiss -- correct me if i'm wrong. dismiss all coincidence. there is not a coincidence we here or that we're all here together. you're a beacon. like-minded people attract. >> once we have been competitors and now we're aligned for a common cause. we'll succeed for our community. >> this is a happy show. this never happens on this show. this is happy! back in a minute. ÷?;sñpú

>> glenn: continuing with a happy theme tonight. how to restart america? i am launching next tuesday this book. "broke: the plan to restore our truth, our trust and treasure." three sections. first, how did we get here? if you liked "common sense" this like that to 1,000.

it's the second section is how bad is it really? tell me the truth, doctor. i've got cancer, how long do i have to live? the third part is what do we do? honestly, i met for over a year putting this book together. met with some of the biggest experts, and everything they said is basically being said here. everything they said i just made notes of it. i thought founders did that. founders did that. it was freedom. it was sparking the imagination of the american people. patrick you said you start a business and three things. >> when you start a business, she got support but not always you get support. sometimes it's scary. you go through a first phase where you get ridiculed. most people quit at that phase. second one is you'll be opposed. relatives make rumors and families say things, acquaintances. but then at the end when it's self-evident everybody says we always knew you'd do it. >> bret: i love that. >> weee