engines running, commit lift-off. >> julie: the three astronauts on board ran into trouble almost immediately when lightning struck the launch rocket shortly after takeoff, triggering a power failure, but the spacecraft maintained its course and soon afterwards, charles can rod and alan bean walking on the moon and showing going to the moon just once was not enough 41 years ago today. have a great week everyone. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee (applaus (applause) >> what a great audience, you guys are wired up today. thank you very much. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios in new york city. tonight, is there a democratic rebellion building against nancy pelosi in washington?

we're going to ask ohio congress woman marci captor. and also black republican activist hayes carll smith why he believes african-americans who traditionally voted for democrats ought to be voting like him and former apprentice wannabe on why she quit her job as a prosecutor and what it felt like being fired by the donald. plus, former colombian president uribe took on drug trafficking and violence in his country and we'll ask him how we can stop the drug trafficking and violence at the u.s. border. and a song about our soldiers will profoundly touch you and remind us all how lucky we are to be americans. [applaus [applause] >> well, this week, the deficit reduction panel brought forth its

recommendations to keep america from going underwater in debt faster than a lindsay lohan rehab stay. what we have is the mindset in america of everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to die. americans are rightfully angry and equally frightened that we've accumulated the national debt higher than joan river's plastic surgery bills. now, most people who have an iq above a stalk of celery recognize that spending's got to be reduced, yet, naming specific programs for the chopping block, once always met with instant outrage. if we do that we're going to kill children and old people and all the good dogs in america. welsh the notion that americans would also have to pay more for things that they wanted, like highways that were drivable and a military that's been by bullets usually shot down because it would increase more of our costs. look, i don't want to see taxes increase and i don't think it's necessary, but i

also know that unless we put our federal government on the fiscal equivalent of slimfast, we can't afford what we have, much less what we think we need. social security, medicare, medicaid and the military are the traditional untouchables and those items represent the real costs to the federal government. i governed the state ten and a half years and most people never realized that the general revenue budget was spent to do three things, educate, medicate, incarcerate. schools medicaids, prison. what it was about. we could have eliminated everything else in all of state government and only saved 9%. look, i'm not suggesting that we lined up all the sacred cows programs in hamburger, but we don't raise the amount for social security and one time tax bailouts for those who would rather live on their own retirement income than

rein in the cost of medicare and we are going to have to take a rose rosetta course in mandarin, and we-- we can no longer provide an all you can eat government buffet for the price of a small order of fries. we'll go from the land of the free and the home of the brave to the land of the enslaved and home of the broke. that's my view and i welcome yours. mike huckabee, look on the fox news feedback section and offer your comments. nancy pelosi's party took a beating in congress losing more than 60 seats to republicans in the mid term elections and yet, the outgoing speaker refuses to let loose of the tiller. and she's facing criticism.

why won't she back down. we're happy to be joined by dr. payne. good to have you here. [applause] >> well, first of all i want to say i'm sorry to hear about your failed bid for congress, but i ear now you have a new job, you're the new spokesman for the former house speaker herself so congratulations. >> thank you very much. it's what we have in the fine and that's something that i can contribute to and know what i know that is real. >> i think so. absolutely. well, you know, speaker pelosi has been the speaker since 2007. i guess as her new spokesman this is a fair question. what do you think she's done to improve the lives of americans since that time. >> i have no idea. i just started myself. but i'm on the-- what we have now and i guess really maybe something of a name to that. it's just conjecture and that's a word i don't spell a lot. [laughter] >> well, okay.

let me try this one on you dr. payne. so, if miss pelosi remains a leader in spite of everything, what will she bring to the table? >> i think, i think, legs of support, support-- all of the things that we have, that we have, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe not all, but some and i think that's what we're looking for, anything. >> yeah. i think so. [laughter] >> by the way this guy is not dr. robert payne no way associated with nancy pelosi for which i'm sure she's very grateful. he is our good friend, mr. double talk, derwood fincher, come out here. hey, everybody. >> great to see you. >> i've spent the greater portion of what we have and i guess really around the country and and what see too, i hope i'm not repeating myself. >> we would never know.

[laughter] >> i want to say everybody in our audience is going to get a copy of his book, love the title called "once you step in elephant manure you're in the circus forever." thanks for being here. [applause] >> one quote. >> one quote. >> just, i don't know if it's just me governor, but i don't-- thanksgiving seems like it came early this year. god bless. [applause]. our friend, derwood fincher, mr. double talk. >> president obama praised nancy pelosi on his trip. >> i think speaker pelosi has been outstanding and harry reid has been a terrific partner in moving difficult legislation forward and i'm looking forward to working with the entire leadership team to continue to make progress on issues important to the american people. >> well, a growing number of

house democrats say they wouldn't support pelosi's bid. ohio's marci captor sent a letter to her colleagues asking them to hold off on the elections. the letter. we can thot ignore the him results of these elections works he should rush to elect leadership slate next week. we need to understand where we erred to avoid repeating pass mistakes. i appreciate your beinger hoo. thank you, governor. >> there's a great deal of controversy over speaker pelosi whether she should remain in the leadership position. you've been pretty bold on took extraordinary level of courage, but you come from the heart of america and ohio, you've suggested that maybe the democrats ought to step back and find out why they lost over 60 seats. >> yes, i think that should be our first order of business when we return next week. and both congressman peter defast yo of oregon and i

circulated a letter among our colleagues where people are signing on from all parts of the country now, to allow our caucus the time to digest what has occurred. to hear from our members, those who have lost, those who have won and i understand ben chandler just finally made it in the carolinas, and we welcome or excuse me from kentucky. we welcome him back to us. and that we take the time to really study what has happened. in 1994 when there were hurricane losses the leadership elections did not occur until november 30th. so we're not asking much here, just a little bit of space to kind of come back and meet like a family around the table and to assess what's happened in the different regions of theheartland. we've had a significant washout of democratic members. >> you have had a lot of loss. i want to ask you, have you

had any personal conversations with speaker pelosi or some of the other leadership, steny hoyer and have they sort of said to you, look, why don't you just disappear with this conversation? >> well, i'll say this, that each of the leaders have spoken with me. i know they're talking to every member of the caucus. but in some ways, i feel a somewhat unseemly to be talking about their elections, when in fact, so many of our colleagues are coming back defeated from theirs. people who worked very hard, people who tried very hard to have their ideas incorporated in the agenda of this 111th congress and behooves us all to take a bit of a breath. a timeout for a few days to give our members a chance to talk about what they have just experienced. i have the highest regard for speaker pelosi, i don't think any member of that house could work harder or try harder to pass legislation or help her colleagues than speaker pelosi.

i know that leader hoyer clyburn, worked hard and r recognize they're all from the coast and regions like ours in the heartland. people want to get it right and pushing the buttons until we respond in a way that reaches them and that's really the issue here. you take a book like "take this job and ship it", by senator doorgan, i think, nails the issue on the head of the we've had decades of outsourcing caused such harm in production platforms like our owns and a lot of members from the coast come from government rich regions, virginia, maryland, the capital or financial centers like speaker pelosi, those regions do not experience the unemployment levels and the harm that regions like we represent do in the heartland.

and i think that we need to elevate that. we need to get more attention there. he think that some of what was done in the first several month of the 111th congress was misfocused and we should have focused on jobs in the economy. and many of the other issues were important and they got side lined a little bit and that's why people were defeated. it wasn't over ideology, it was over results. >> have you had conversations with other members of congress who may not be as bold and courageous as you about you have the sentiments, i hope somebody is listening. is there a ground swell to think through before we make speaker pelosi the minority leader? >> i think that people would be very grateful for due deliberation, and he think this is the time to step back for a moment. we have time. we have businesses complete in this congress and to allow the membership a full opportunity to digest what has occurred.

i think the leadership would do itself a favor if it were to listen to the membership. >> congress woman thank you for being here, from ohio, she's made really extraordinary arrangements at a time when congress members don't have a lot of time on the weekend and say from the bottom of our hearts on fox news thank you for being willing to be here and for your courage in speaking out. >> thank you, governor huckabee, thank you. >> americans want to know if the turnover in congress will bring the results that they're asking for. coming up your questions about the future. [applause]. only one a day women's 50+ advantage has gingko for memory and concentration plus support for bone and breast health. a great addition to my routine. [ female announcer ] one a day women's.

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instruments in the hands of kids across america and features classics as well as originals, artists like neil sedaka, aaron jones, tippin and more. and $10. learning to get a copy at mike huckabee.com. while the transition phase has begun, americans have questions of the changes that 112th congress will bring so we'll bring questions that you might have and get them here from our audience. yes, sir. >> okay. the republicans were talking about reducing the deficit using common sense spending cuts. my question is in what way do they plan on doing that? i've heard about restoring the bush tax cuts which would reduce revenue and i haven't heard anything about cutting entitlement spending like medicare, medicaid and social security. >> and the real money in the

federal budget are the entitlements. and here is an example the social security, everyone says we can't raise the retirement age and i know it's unpopular and say something that's politically incorrect. let's remind ourselves when the social security system was created, people would retire at 65. the average life expectancy for a male was 67 so it was assumed that based on tables you would retire 18 months, two years you'd be dead so the payout was limited. today the very same table would say you're probably going to live until you're 81. a big difference, you've got now a payout of a lot longer period of time. now the reality is this. i don't suggest that we have death panels, i think it's horrible. what i suggest we take an honest look and say if we're living longer maybe we ought to be working longer and maybe here is another option, guys like me i'm probably not going to need my social security, not something i'm going to live off and a lot of people want. offer me a one time tax buyout, a tax-free buyout.

i cash out one time the government's going to save money and got no further obligation to me and i haven't just paid in for nothing. there are creative ways to do it. the problem is nobody wants to talk about it it's always the political fight, what we have to do is have people in washington who are willing to risk getting defeated if that means that they can save the country. we have too many people saving their seats in congress and not thinking about saving the future of america. that's what i hope will at least happen. i've got a lot more ideas and we'll take more questions, okay, who is next? >> hi. do you think that because members of the tea party ha have-- that they don't want to compromise it will end up hurting the country more because we need to make compromises? >> some people say gridlock is bad. gridlock sometimes frankly can be better than an activist government that messes things up. gridlock at least means they wouldn't hurt us and what i call the hippocratic oath, first do no harm. if the difference is they're

going to spend money we don't have, borrow money we can't afford to pay back and cash bills that nature of the government and do things questionably as to their constituti constitutional basis, gridlock-- you can campaign as an id idealog. when you govern that way, you get nothing and get it forever. americans are not as focused on are we right or left, they're focused are we going to go up or go down and the democrat, whether it's democrat or republican that resolves problems, the one more vertical is long-term successful even though the elections may shift back and forth. i'd like to answer more, but i'm told we've got to take a break and that's how we pay the bills here so that's what we're going to do. by the way in each presidential race over the last four decades the democratic candidate has

received nearly 90% of the african-american vote. coming up we are going to speak to an activist who says if they stuck to their values they'd be picking the g.o.p. candidates on their ballots and his surprising analysis is next. when you're responsible for this much of the team, you need a car you can count on.

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(applause) >> this week, the all democratic congressional black caucus said they'll allow two recently elected black republicans to join the group. they won the races and the only two black republicans in the house, but my next guest says that number ought to be a lot higher and the values of african-americans are more in toon with those of republicans than democrats. please welcome kay carl smith. good to have you here. [applause] >> you have said that you

voted just sort of i guess reflexively democratic for had a long time and then you made a switch. what led you to decide that may be your votes weren't moving the right way. >> in the translation, examine yourselves to make sure you're solid in the faith and don't trip along taking things for granted. >> this was a biblical thing. >> i read the scripture before and hit me like it never hit me before. i had to examine myself the way i was voting, voting contrary to what i believe as a christian. >> some people will go berserk and people will say, you're saying at that god wants everybody to be a republican. he probably does, but-- i'm kidding, that's going to get me in trouble, go ahead. >> doesn't matter the party you're in, what matters is the way you vote and guidance you serve period.

>> and nearly 90% of african-americans have voted for democrats over the past 40 years. so what is it that said that makes you say, well, we really maybe ought to be reevaluating how we're voting. we're just voting party not principle. what principle is it that drove you to say, i'm in the wrong party? >> i guess i had to start by saying that one of the objectives of my organization, and save those with a political loss. when i examined my own life. when god revealed the scripture to me and one that led me to vote this way. in terms of the way i'm voting and i realized that imams are really important and what happened in my case when i look at my life it's the image of dr. king and the two kennedy brothers. that image was sold on throw rugs and candlestick holders and all across the country in the community. and it's located in most black homes, in most problems in the home and the last supper. so john and robert kennedy

became my first cousins, but they were not supporters in the chapters of the civil rights movement if you go back and read history and so powerful-- >> you wrote a book, narrative life of fredericking douglas and fascinating because you take parallels between the issues of slavery that douglas kwas so articulate about and talked about political slavery. what do people say and how do they react when you explain to them what it is to be a frederick douglas republican? >> well, i found out whether you vote the name of a beloved family member like frederick douglas not just in terms of the black community, but in terms of being an american icon, it gets their attention and piques interest and when i say it as an african-american, that's my ethnicity. when someone who is not a black america says they're a frederick douglas republican,

gives them a dialog. >> give me an examine of things you feel like are key to your basic core principles as an african-american male that says i really am a frederick douglas republican. >> that's that he advocated respect for the constitution and life and belief in government and-- i look at frederick douglas's life and he was the quintessential black conservative based on that definition. so, in looking at his life and studying his life, his life is a perfect example of liberation and i really believe that this movement that god has given me, what is going to save the country. you can't play the race card on it like you can the tea party movement. you have to get to the issue and at that takes race off the tausches and as a conservative we'll have the best ideas. >> it's fascinating to me and i find your insights are compelling and unique and i've never heard them put quite

like you put them. you have them in the book, a companion guide and you call yourself the fdr, the frederick douglas republican. the real fdr. >> that's right. >> you've got a shirt here. >> this shirt is for you, by the way, and good to show you my appreciation for being on the show. and it says in bold letters, fdr, it's not who you think. frederick douglas republican. that's great. >> on the back, life empowering values, this is not a sleeping shirt. you have to wear it. >> i want to say k carl smith thank you for being here for the insight that i hope people will look at, very, very fascinating. she had a promising future as a young prosecutor and a chance to work for real estate mogul and reality star donald trump. now, she's ott of work so what is masa going to do now? we're going to ask her next. [applause]. ♪ for he's a jolly good fellow ♪ the meeting's tomorro in dals ♪

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>> from america's news headquarters, hello everyone i'm julie banderas, a 13-year-old girl missing since wednesday has been found alive. sarah maynard was discovered bound and gagged in the basement of a house, ten miles from her ohio home. maynard had disappeared along with her mother, brother and a family friend. they have yet to be located. the owner of the house where she has been found has been charged with kidnapping. maynard has been hospitalized in good condition tonight. president obama saying that he is expecting to commit to himself by extending middle class tax cuts by the end of the year and returning to the white house on sunday afternoon after the ten day asian trip and the president saying he's willing to negotiate with republicans on an extension for the country's highest earners and the president scheduled to meet with both parties later this week. i'm julie banderas.

you're watching fox the most powerful name in news. >> she was booking as an attorney in brooklyn and tried to expand her options being the on the apprentice with donald trump and when it interviewed with the day job she quit and then this happened. >> she's disloyal. >> do you think she's lying. >> yeah, mr. trump i'm not lying. well over a thousand, why would i lie? i'm not lying. >> would you shut your mouth and stop screaming with my name in vain? >> i'm not lying. >> and the number actually was-- >> wouldn't you say it's disloyal that you gave him the numbers? >> the task was over, it was stupid, it wasn't disloyal. >> what do you mean the task was over. >> that's true. >> whether or not you're allowed to do that, that's one thing, but the loyalty to your team is pretty tlt. >> don't you made a mistake.

>> i absolutely made a mistake you're fired. >> joining us now masa, that was really fascinating watching it. i felt for you. i mean, they were all banging around on you and jumping on you like crazy. at that must have been the most awkward moment. >> it was, it was awful and i just want to thank you so much governor for allowing me to come here and have the opportunity to set the record straight. you know, my name has been thrown in the dirt. i was tell the truth to mr. trump. he knew it for several reasons, production reasons and common sense and he just allowed all the contestants to call me a liar when they were being deceitful and let the ford room out of control. and he had the men come back into the courtroom and as they were lying, they ruined my name and absolutely no way i was going to sit back quietly and allow that to happen.

>> do you regret doing the though. i don't regret doing the no because i think i conducted myself properly. and i was very surprised at the way that i was fired. i thought that that was inappropriate. but, i don't regret it at all because it's opened up so many incredible opportunities and so, i don't have any regrets about actually doing the show. >> you have some really guess, kind of tough feelings about donald trump though. you went into it thinking that he was this very organizationed ceo and didn't come away with the same point of view? >> no, absolutely not. the reason that i left my job as a prosecutor, the jobs that i absolutely love was because i admired mr. trump so much and had so much respect for him. when i looked around him and saw how he was treating us and when i watched him completely not care about the truth and just allowed decreteful people in the competition and looking for him and begging for him to do something, but he allowed

me to be branded as a liar in front of millions of americans so no, i don't have the level of respect to put it in the kindest way. >>. >> when people go on reality shows there are risks and obviously you took a large risk to go on it, but i think the pain in your face that i saw as you sat at that table and even as you watched it yet again. you know, my heart went out to you, it was like these people had ganged up because that whole deal. somebody's got to be thrown off so somebody else can survive like survivor shows and other things. do you feel like that's what happened to you, there was a sort of let's get rid of mahsa? >> i think way an a candidate since day way one. i was outspoken and after the first board room there was an x on my back and the second an opportunity came for people to get rid of me every single person started lying, yeah, yeah, she lied, get rid of her. fire her mr. trump and

mr. trump was awesome, let's do it. it was awful, he didn't stick up for me at all. maybe i think i was too aggressive for him, too strong. >>, but you know what, think about it, 310 million americans, how many have been looked at directly by donald trump and said, you're fired. that's true. >> you're part of a small group of people, but in all seriousness, i want to ask you how it's affected your career and your options and opportunities? >> well, i think that in the show leading up to my firing, i went online, and they had teased it and i saw my picture and above my face, it says liar, liar. >> oh, wow. >> so, for somebody who is-- was a prosecutor at the time. when your reality is around speaking the truth and telling the truth. if you're a lying prosecutor it's like a cook who doesn't wash their hands, your career is done. i think if i had tdidn't have t

opportunity to defend myself on your show i would be in trouble. >> what would you do differently on the apprentice again? >> i would never have allowed him to treat me the way he did when i was getting fired and it went on for hours and hours, that board room whether you saw it or not and didn't show. i was attacked in every way possible and i was broken at the end of the and i would have gone-- >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to tell you, you're not fired. >> oh, thank you, i'm hired! >> more than 28,000 people have died in mexico's violent drug wars since 2006 and mostly in the country's northern region. that's the one, obviously, closest to our own border. coming up we are going to talk to former colombian president uribe. he made great strides in his country's battle against drugs and what mexico could learn from his experience.

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>> welcome, while our troops are fighting al-qaeda overseas, the u.s. is bordering other battle on the southern border. mexican drug cartels, the same war that crippled colombia for decades and while it rages on. colombia's president fought it in the nationment and led president bush to award him with the medal of freedom. >> by refusing to allow the

land he loves to be destroyed by the enemy within. by proving terror can be opposed and defeated, president uribe has reawakened the hopes of his countrymen to a watching world. >> joining us is the president. mr. president, an honor to have you with us. [applause] >> you made remarkable progress in your country that was considered almost a lost cause by many people, but you were able to stop so much of the terrorism and drug trafficking, there is a growing anxiety particularly along the southern border because of the cartel's intrusion into the united states and people are murdered and kidnapped and many americans are scared to go to certain parts of mexico. what lessons did you learn you can pass on to both president calderone and president obama in dealing with what is a

very, very serious issue with both countries? >> i cannot vice-president calderone and president obama. what i can do is to tell my experience. it has been important that every country in the world supports president called ren, president calderone all the support, colombia, during my administration and now under the administration of president santos has been in close coordination with president calderone. we have been with president calderone the support and it is necessary to understand that he has all the courage, all the determinenation and all of our support. not only the direct support, the support of colombia, but the support of the european countries, from the asian countries because consumption is a word wide problem. and even companies such as colombia are ruining--

recently secretary of state hillary clinton was frankly very complimentary of the leadership that you've played. we have a little piece of that comment. i want to get from hillary clinton. >> these drug cartels are now showing more and more indices of insurgency. you know, all of a sudden car bombs show up that weren't there before. so it's looking more and more like colombia looked 20 years ago. >> she was saying that mexico looked like colombia 20 years ago. obviously, there's been such great progress during the time that your administration brought a lot of reform, but then, president obama made a very denver assessment and we have just a screen up, and this is from the los angeles newspaper, mexico as a vast and progress seive democracy with a growing economy and as a result you cannot compare what's happening in mexico

with what happened in colombia 20 years ago. a little difference between the president and the secretary of state in the same administration, but there is a parallel and mr. president, speak to that parallel to assure us, this is a winnable war. tell us that this can be won and if you could just say, here is the number one thing we must do, repeat that for me, please. >> thank you, governor. it is necessary to fight this challenge. otherwise this challenge can defeat t defeat any nation. my country, for example, high level of poverty, rate of unemployment. because of the lack of investment and what was the cost, what has been the violation and corruption. therefore, if we want to advance in that corner, if we

want to advance in education and the social issues we have to defeat terrorists and call the attention about consumption. first, i no longer believe in the idea that there is a problem of consumption in the north and a problem of production in the south. now, every country can become producing, producing country, can become consumer and can become spot for narco trafficking. and everyone has to fight against this criminal activity. >> mr. president, i want to say not only thank you for being a part of our program today, but more importantly, thank you for the leadership that you've given to all of this country, this hemisphere, but to the world in showing that strong and courageous leaders can make a significant difference even against what seems to be an unsurmountable issue of narco terrorism.

thank you, it's been an honor to have you with us today. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. (applause).

[applause] (applause). >> . >> this week, millions of americans honored those who have served our country by celebrating veterans day. my next guest chance encounter with a soldier inspire her to write a beautiful song that pays tribute to the men and women of our armed services. here now to perform "lucky me" with the little rockers, is helene. so good to have you here. [applause] >> i saw your performance on a youtube video that a friend of mine in the hlt, retired military sent to me and i was deeply moved. i thought this is as beautiful as any song i've heard in a long, long too many, captures an american's gratitude to

those who serve us. how did this come about for you? >> it's a true story. i was coming back from the nashville airport. i was in the nashville airport and i don't usually talk to soldiers, but i struck up a conversation with a young man who was on high school way back to iraq and i was on my way home and the conservative we had and the words he said to me were a gift. number one, they made me think about the difference in our lives and what he was doing for me and number two, they gave me this song. >> well, it's a beautiful song. do it for us, it's called "lucky me". ♪ ♪ i stood in line beside a soldier at the airport ticket counter ♪ ♪ we made a little easy

conversation, i asked his destination ♪ ♪ another tour of duty in the middle east ♪ ♪ then he asked me where i was headed to ♪ ♪ when i answered home, he just said, lucky you ♪ ♪ and i thought lucky me, he's right, i sleep in my own bed at night ♪ ♪ and stay nice and warm and he's wide awake in a uniform ♪ ♪ lucky me, while he's fighting for, i live the life he's fighting for ♪ ♪ he is brave, i am free ♪ ♪ lucky me

♪ i stood there silent and i all i heard echoing from those two words were all of the things he did not say ♪ ♪ that he's lonely and scared, battle scarred, family back home praying hard ♪ ♪ he never knows if he'll see another day ♪ ♪ but he held up his head and looked me in the high ♪ ♪ and right there in those two words, i could hear a soldier's pride ♪ ♪ and i thought lucky me ♪ i tried to thank him before we parted ways ♪ ♪ but the best i could do was

the tears rolling down my face ♪ ♪ lucky me, he's right freedom comes with a heavy price ♪ ♪ that we don't all pay our equal share, and know what it's like over there ♪ ♪ lucky us, at home while others go to the battle zones ♪ ♪ they are the brave, we are the free ♪ ♪ lucky you, lucky me ♪ lucky you, lucky me

(applause) >> the song is called "lucky me" and certainly we're lucky and blessed to live in this great country protected and scared for by those who serve us. i hope you've had a great time watching our show and great time bringing it to you. now from new york, this is mike huckabee from the fox news studios, god bless, see news studios, god bless, see you next week. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. ♪ we need to finish tho projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪

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