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forces to recommit to afghanistan until 2014. but many questions remain about afghan president hamid karzai's own commitment to the u.s. commission there. live pictures. i think that's the first time we've had a live picture out of portugal. >> in our cold opening. >> i know! >> maybe just forgot about that little thing called the first amendment. a powerful democrat calling for the fcc to mute cable news? i for one am against it. "fox & friends" starts now. >> you know, there's so many definitions of ice. you have ice that's the cold stuff. you have ice that's the department that's supposed to look at illegal aliens. vanilla ice. >> thank you. >> which you can dance to. but then you have something known as an ice palace. >> look at that. >> this thing -- this is outside of our studios, brian, look at how beautiful it looks against the dark of the night sky before
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we have dawn here in new york city. >> the fella that came up with the rain forest cafe and some other great ideas. >> where it thunders every nine minutes. >> i like the quesedilla, boom! >> come up with a new idea called water, fire and ice and we have the ice part and fire out there as well. he's got a brand new book to benefit some great cause. we'll talk to that guy coming up this hour right here on a frosty "fox & friends." >> right. >> cold as ice. >> thanks to foreigner. 1970's hit. bam. perfect. >> is that a sofa with fur on it? that's a curvy ice sofa? >> they have a curvy couch. that is really chilly. >> that's the walrus we always open up with. >> it looks like the olympic games with that torch. >> it really does. if someone doused the flame so we don't lose our couch. >> we'll be checking in throughout the show. meantime, let's start the headlines with fox news alert. nearly 30 miners this morning after an explosion ripped through a coal mine at new zealand.
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it happened at the pipe river coal processing plant on the west coast. five miners escaped with their lives and says they lost track of the others. emergency crews are on the scene but fear these miners could be up to 5,000 feet below the surface and quickly running out of air. >> community in mourning. hundreds of people gathering to pay their respects after a missing family was found dead after a week-long search. the bodies of tina herman, cody maynard and stephanie spring found inside a hollowed out tree miles from their home. matthew hoffman apparently led police to the remains. he's charged with kidnapping the fourth family member and holding her captive alive in a basement. no motive has been released. being acquitted on all but one charge this week. president obama says it will continue to try suspected
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terrorists in court. that's despite criticism from military leaders as well as democrats that terror suspects should be tried in military court only. president obama arrived in lisbon, portugal. he's in europe for a nato summit and will participate in a joint u.s. meeting. his strategy in afghanistan expected to be high on the agenda. steve scentanni is live with th details of the trip. >> after a long all night flight from washington, d.c. to lisbon, portugal, the president just got off the plane as we saw. we have the new pictures that came in moments ago. meeting in lisbon with the 27 other members of the nato alliance today and tomorrow. they're expected to talk about keeping nato relevant in the 21st century with revamped rules including ballistic missile defense, anti-piracy patrols and counterterrorism but the meeting is being overshadowed by the escalating war in afghanistan where the alliance is struggling to contain the taliban there. on saturday, the leaders are expected to endorse a plan by
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general david petraeus, the top u.s. nato commander in afghanistan to start handing over responsibility for some areas in afghanistan in 2011. the plan is to end the alliance's combat role by the end of 2014 if conditions on the ground allow it but to retain significant forces in country after that to train and advise the afghan army and the police. alliance has 140 troops in afghanistan. 2/3 of them are americans. the government security forces are being built up to just over 300,000 members. back to you. >> all right. steve centanni live for us in d.c. thanks very much. >> it was three months ago, charlie rangel said to the ethics committee, take your best shot! yesterday, they took their best shot. by a final vote of 9-1, the house ethics committee voted to censure him. he did not like that. just before the final vote, he was given a chance to stand up. he sat there for a little while
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and put his hand like that and stood up and said among other things, this. >> it would really help and i don't think it's out of line if the committee didn't say it before that you could put in that report no matter what you agree the sanctions should be that your member was not corrupt and did not seek and did not gain anything personally for the bad conduct that i've had. >> amazing, too. >> i'm not corrupt. >> he just wants to end there and for one thing, i actually felt bad for him, i mean he could not even stand up. he was all emotional. i'm going to die soon, i don't know how much longer i'll have. he didn't report assets, he didn't pay taxes on rental properties and he was writing the tax laws for the country and he misused rent stablized apartments for people in harlem that actually needed the rent stablized apartments, he took two. in retrospect, everybody was
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predicting a little reprimand or maybe a fine but it's going to get a lot worse for him because he's got to pay back some money as well. he had no money left to pay for lawyers. >> i have all respect for the elderly but i think you've been swooned by a very good actor. >> i did feel a little bit of compassion. >> i did, too. i wonder how the people felt after 17 years of being swindled by all accounts by those things that you mentioned. here's the thing -- censured doesn't really do anything. censure, here's what the definition of censure is. severe disapproval, harsh criticism. to criticize someone or something severely, condemn. all right. but it's not expulsion. it's not expulsion. so this may be the worst of what he faces other than having to pay back the fine is his own colleagues telling him that he made some mistakes. >> the reprimand would have been a letter in the mail and censure is before the full house, he gets yelled at and expulsion is exactly what "the new york post" is calling for. they say he should expelled himself. they say he can save himself and
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the house more agony with a letter of resignation, say good-bye, charlie. it is over. one thing about this committee, this house ethics committee, you can't say there's no bipartisanship on capitol hill because it was alive and well yesterday. >> four democrats, four republicans. >> exactly right. and this is the first time that the house has censured a member since gary stubbs, a congressman from massachusetts, a democrat was accused and apparently admitted that he had had sex with a male page. so they haven't done this very often. >> maxine waters is up next and she'll be wondering oh, my goodness, am i going to be facing this, too? what you can say is this, he has to pay back the money, all the taxes and everything like that. but now, he can no longer say i'm being railroaded. he can no longer say i need my day, i need my day to tell my story. he passed on that on monday. and then he can't claim that those republicans have gone out after me because he was a democrat and it was against him. >> there's still so much
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politics involved in this whole thing. this is what dismays so many people in the american public. this thing should have been held before the election and it wasn't. not that it would have made any difference. let us remind you, he won overwhelmingly in his district for 40 years in congress. but to me, it's just still smells so much of politics. he's not going to expel himself. come on, wake up and smell the -- >> nancy pelosi has to push this thing away for the longest time, for a couple of years. remember, it was going to be the purest -- >> drain the swamp. most ethical congress. >> finally reduces his chairmanship. let's see if he becomes ranking member on the ways and means committee which is his goal. we'll find out. >> a little closer to retirement now and, of course, at the end of his time in congress, he can go to that villa down in the dominican republic that he forgot to pay taxes on. >> it happens. >> remember, if it were you or me, we would probably be sitting in the pokey right now but he is going to, you know, continue as a u.s. congressman from new york
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for, perhaps, many more years. >> all right. senator jay rockefeller, he made a very startling claim yesterday. he says that he ptsz fox newschannel and other cable operations silenced. so i guess we should have worn some costumes today. we should have put some muzzles on before we came out here. duct tape, we have some gaffer tape. maybe that's what the senator would like to say particularly from us, probably and fox news. >> they looked at the written remarks. these weren't in his written remarks. he ad libbed them. let's listen to jay rockefeller. >> bug inside of me which wants to get the fcc to say to fox and to msnbc out, off, end, good-bye. be a big favor to political discourse, our ability to do our work here in congress and to the american people to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and in their -- more importantly in their future. >> apparently mr. rockefeller wants news that doesn't hold him
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and his buddies in congress accountable. >> like the c span lockdown camera where it zooms in and out and doesn't say anything back. >> i'd like to know the aide sitting behind him, that young woman, one of his aides, do you see her roll her eyes. i wonder if she -- i wonder, first of all, if she's one of his aides and she's like uh-oh. watch. she kind of goes uh-oh, i can't believe he's saying this. >> big favor to political discourse, our ability to do our work. uh-oh. i didn't -- i didn't remember this part of it. looking down. what do you think about that one? >> well, he is calling for a muzzle to be put on fox and msnbc as well, it is interesting that his wife sharon is actually the president of weta which is the public broadcasting station for washington, d.c. so obviously, he likes public broadcasting but those -- but those pests over on cable news,
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shut them up! jam a sock in it! >> republicans bought this up and said we got an idea. let's defund npr, use taxpayer money to something that doesn't have a political agenda and put that to a vote. they only get 1% to 3% of taxpayer money of overall funding. when they put the vote to the house, it was 239-171. for now, they keep their funding. >> here's a part of this that i love, though, is what inspired them to actually go for this vote was a program called you cut. so you can vote on an on-line contest as a constituent. you can have your voice heard by telling your politician what issues you want them to take up on the house floor and that's exactly it. 63%, they got 63% of the vote, the npr issue. >> exactly right and that you cut program was devised and implemented by the republican party and the u.s. congress but the real impetus of this was juan williams getting fired just a month or so ago and eric cantor and doug lambourne who
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authored the statement when they said when npr executives decided to terminate juan williams, the bias of their organization was exposed. that's why republicans said look, should we really be funding with federal money an outfit that is biased? besides, it's a free country, free market. if people want that kind of broadcasting they should be able to make the money on their own. >> it's going to come up again and come up when the republicans take over and see where it comes from there. >> huge show coming your way. >> does harry reid still not get it? he's looking to extend the tax cuts to the middle class. will congress make the decision on what our taxes will be next year? charles payne weighs in next. >> people opinicashing in big ty collecting botched balls at golf courses. >> why am i shown?
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>> we never have found the balls! >> so orlando salinas tells us what happens to the balls. >> i'm walking out in defense of you. i'm going to defend you. and right outside on our plaza, not many shows can say they have their own ice palace. we'll explain what it's about. >> west virginia senator jay rockefeller announced he wants the fcc to take fox news and msnbc off the air. when asked about cnn, he said cnn? that's still on the air? to try lifting one of these. a unique sea salt added to over 40 campbell's condensed soups. helps us reduce sodium, but not flavor. so do a few lifts. campbell's.® it's amazing what soup can do.™
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tours each year putting on events both overseas and stateside taking entertainers to afghanistan, japan or germany, wherever our troops go, the uso is there. >> from musicians to nfl superstars and cartoonists, the uso teams up with celebrities with one mission in mind. with the spirit of america's troops. >> nothing better to take an entertainer overseas and have them say thank you on behalf of the american people for the freedoms that we're enjoying daily. the latest star to say thank you, country music singer trace adkins who recently returned from his third uso tour in the middle east. hitting locations lacking those five-star accommodations. >> uso takes good care of us when we're ever there and it's not like we're camping out. you don't get pampered. you don't get particular colors of m&m's in the green room. >> when he's home, he still gives back with the uso.
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tonight he's hosting a free concert for military families at fort benning in georgia. it's very much appreciated. >> country singer to come out and support us and to do it for free, i think it's the most wonderful thing. >> good distraction. gets our mind off the norm. >> i think it's great. it shows they're actually standing behind our soldiers. >> and trace feels their love. >> it's the most appreciative crowd you'll ever play for. >> between now and the end of the year, the uso is planning 14 holiday tours with celebrities such as robin williams, sugarland and katie perry. would love to get more female movie stars to go overseas such as scarlet johansson who did a trip to the persian gulf in 2008 and all of the uso programs are donor based. remember that. if you'd like to support their cause head to uso.org and toss it back to you guys. >> thank you very much. >> very nicely done. >> coming up on the show, major airlines took the union to the vote and employees said no. what this means now for travelers. >> and harry reid ignoring his
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>> welcome back, everyone. 6:222 eastern time. couple of quick headlines for you. delta's baggage handlers have just voted against joining the union. it comes days after delta flight attendants also voted against it. in recent weeks, other airlines have blamed low profits and higher prices on organized labor. he hasn't officially asked for a recount but alaska senate candidate joe miller has filed suit asking a federal judge to block officials from certifying incumbent lisa murkowski as the
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winner of the election. guys? >> all right, gretch, well, the u.s. hoist votes down a measure to extend unemployment benefits again for about another three months or so. that means 800,000 people will lose their benefits by the end of this month and another 11.2 million by the end of next month. >> fox business contributor extraordinare charles payne is here and he says congress is marching to new orders and then drawing that line in the sand. so charles, don't want to be callous but 99 weeks is already a long time and add in three more months. that's unprecedented. >> it's already unprecedented at 99. we've extended this thing now four or five times in this country. remember earlier this year when jim bunting said if we're going to do this, let's offset it by something else. in other words, the message of the people right now is cut spending and it's tough because you're always painted or portrayed as being villainous or evil but by the same token, you know, people who are unemployed two years, three years, they lose their skills, they lose
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their desires and in some ways, you may actually be doing people a favor by saying you got to get off the sofa. you have to get off the sofa. >> there are stories about people who are saying, you know, i could make -- actually make more money by sitting at home on the dole than going to work. >> right. and they're absolutely right and they're attracted to that but no, it's like i tell a lot of young kids that i meet that don't want to work at mcdonald's because the pay is low. if you don't start at the ground floor and somebody sees you and says this kid is so good. he should own a couple of stores. there are people out there, groups out there that are protesting for more. in the meantime, they've turned down jobs. >> you know what's interesting, when jim bunting first said that, both sides were saying, what are you saying? now there's a different sentiment between the extensions, there might be a pushback this time. that's harry reid. let's talk more about harry reid. something else you want to do. great idea. leave bush tax cuts in place for just those people who reached the middle class. let's listen.
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>> as you know, my friend was offered legislation to extend them all, if he wants to vote on that, i'll be happy to arrange that. he should arrange a vote on 250, period. >> he doesn't get it. >> politics, one part of america vs. the other. here's the big problem. a lot of small businesses are s corporations. they file individual tax returns. they are the job creators. by the way, if someone said, well, it's only 2% or 3% of them, if 10 people in this room opened businesses and nine of them did 100,000 a year and one did $10 million and hired four people, do we want to punish that one? we want that one to continue to do well and to continue to hire people if they're saying the exact opposite. >> sorry. it's nuts! >> it is nuts! >> and it's unfair and it's stupid. and it's divisive and it's ripping this country apart.
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it's politics pure and simple. >> monday, mitch mcconnell will put his up where he gets two more years at this rate, where everyone hits the tax rates. >> there's no doubt in my mind, they'll go through and get two years on the top 2%. >> wasting our time because seven democrats agree with mitch mcconnell. >> they're going to risk the biggest tax increase in the history of this country. are they that crazy? they've already played a dangerous game and they've taken it this far. >> watch this passion this morning at 9:20 eastern time. charles hosting "varney & company." >> trying to pry the neon off. >> got to tweak a few letters. >> exactly. >> talking to a marketing guru today, right? >> yeah, we'll be talking about -- >> mark stevens, marketing guru and also another british royal family, how maybe they're going to try to reband that and maybe some other things that can be rebranded. >> all right, charles. >> it's too much of a reach for me. a dance team late to a tv
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appearance ditched their cars in a traffic tunnel and make a run for it. they didn't get very far. wait until you hear what happens next. >> people cashing in big time by collecting that. >> botched balls at golf courses. those swamps are also full of alligators. orlando salinas, there he is! >> that's not orlando. have you met orlando? >> look at this. a frozen paradise outside of the plaza. there's orlando. i see him now. stick around. find out how we make that and what we're doing out there. it's a special cause. >> meanwhile, happy birthday to jodie foster. the two time oscar winner 48. ♪ every time it's so right ♪ well, it feels so good
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>> that will put you in a good mood for a friday, right? bunch of smiling faces and president bush on jay leno last night and it got humorous. watch this. >> let me ask you about this piece of videotape and this is one of my all time favorites and i must say you did this with
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such dignity. take a look. >> that's the definition of a man without an exit strategy. >> how did he end up getting out? >> didn't he -- >> the one with the big -- >> the wall opens, i think. >> someone pointed to the wrong door so he went that way. the former president is out in l.a. last night he was at the reagan library appearing with nancy reagan. i think they had about 1400 people there. anyway, he has been doing a lot of traveling and here is mr. leno talking to mr. bush about what's going on now at america's airports. >> what's all this extra security about tonight? we have president bush on the program tonight so everybody gets patted down. >> even you? i mean, this is your show.
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>> makes no sense at all! >> tell me about it. >> so many people are going to say, well, if we would have seen that side of president bush when he was in office for eight years, then we would have all loved him. >> right, there's a little problem. don't really have that side of somebody who is in the middle of two wars. >> he's got to be presidential. >> right. >> but he is a funny guy. >> it was our current president that went out and did jay leno. breaking overnight in the natalee holloway case. missing teenager's father says he's sent his daughter's dental records to investigators. this after a jaw bone found on a beach in aruba last week reportedly determined to be that from a young woman. holloway was last seen on the island five years ago. d.n.a. tests are being performed to see if the remains are holloway's. the lower jaw bone was found near a resort where murder
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suspect joran van der sloot told investigators to look. he said a lot of stuff. >> he did. new details in the murder of a prominent hollywood publicist. investigators say it may have been planned. beverly hills police say someone targ targeted her driving up to her mercedes and shooting her several times in the chest. the shooter was probably in an s.u.v. the original thought that chasten was killed as a result of road rage or carjacking is now unlikely. >> despite opposition from students, the university of california regents has, in fact, voted to raise tuition 8%. the vote comes a day after police had to keep 300 protesters at bay over the proposed hike. 13 people were arrested on the san francisco campus on wednesday. this is the second straight year that students will have to deal with higher tuition. brian? >> all right. a group of teenagers wanted to dance so they created a terror scare at the lincoln tunnel instead. a dance troupe from florida was
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driving to a tv talent show when they got stuck in traffic. here's some of the group's members. so they ditched their car and ran through the tunnel wearing camouflage uniforms getting the attention of the joint terrorist t task force. armed police surrounded the group with guns drawn. the tv producers told them it was too late. got to have them on and let them dance for us. >> can you imagine the panic they incited? somebody was on high alert. you don't have to be tiger woods or brian kilmeade to make big bucks on the golf course. in fact, you don't even have to pick up a club. orlando salinas live in miami to show us how people are making money diving for golf balls. i love this story, orly! >> yeah. look, this is great, gretchen, brian, good to see you guys this morning. it really is one of the craziest ways to make a living. couple of days ago, we spent some time with a man out in lee county, florida, who puts on scuba gear. big old tank on his back. jet black scuba gear and he goes
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and he jumps in lakes around florida. and he goes looking for those tiny little white golf balls and i'm telling you, there's a whole lot of money in that water. take a listen. >> all golfers, the hackers and duffers, the low handicapers, even the pros at some point they all end up in the water. and that makes 6'8" glenn burger happy. dress like one tall ninja, berger is one of about 100 professional golf ball divers in florida who dive for little white balls while avoiding snakes and gators. >> they'll come right over and dive straight down and they'll bump my tank with their nose. and then they'll surface and i get out and leave that lake. >> the golf balls are washed and cleaned. then sorted by hand based on brand and color. >> this one is worth a nickel. this one is worth $2.
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>> on this day, berger is diving into a stream of lakes at the pelican preserve golf course in fort myers. after a pretty good haul, they drive on to the next water hazard. snagging more balls and scaring golfers along the way. >> yes, we actually have people call up and think there's a monster or a critter in the water because they see bubbling coming up or they see a head pop up. >> there are just over 1,000 of these public and private golf courses here in florida. more than any other state and that means that we have probably about, like i said, about 100 or so of these divers, more than any other state. it is a crazy way to make a living. this guy that we're talking about, glenn berger, he makes between $10,000 to $15,000 a month going and looking for those little white balls and he says there's that never ending supply. guys? >> orlando, i could have used this diver. in fact, i should have been forced to golf with a diver when i had a chance to golf on patriots day with the president of the united states.
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i would have given this guy at least $1.90. >> you know what? >> yeah. >> how many of those golf balls, though, overall in all seriousness, are usable because they've been in the water for all this time? >> sure, look. the golf ball's worst enemy is time. the longer they stay in the water, they become discolored. what he told me is out of about two million golf balls that he's retrieved in one year, maybe 5% to 10% are not usable and he gets paid between $0.02 a ball, up to $2 a ball and he works for himself. he has only one employee. that's how this guy owns four homes, guys. >> probably has his own dental. thanks so much. orlando salinas, good job. >> let's go outside. steve is with some important people and an important seasons? >> snowing? >> strange weather phenomenon here at 48th and sixth avenue in the heart of midtown manhattan. it is snowing. let's take a look at the radar
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and see if we can detect exactly where the snow is coming from. it must be the snow making machine. it's about 5 feet from me right now. actually there's a little bit of snow as you can see moving through portions of the great lake states right now and some out towards -- the map is nice and clear. let's move to the next map and find out what the temperatures are as we head out the door on this friday morning. and you push the button if you can find it. all righty. you can't find it. if you want to know your current temperatures, go outside. meanwhile, he's an award winning entrepreneur and is the chief and enormous success all while having a blast creating new ways to entertain his customers. now he's taking the heat out of the jungle and putting it on ice with his latest concept, water, fire and ice. steven shussler is the founder of rain forest cafe and author of a great new book called "it's a jungle in there" and he's created a special ice palace right on our plaza. good morning to you.
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>> good morning. thanks for having me. >> when you created the rain forest cafe, you actually turned your house into a rain forest for a little while to see what it was like. >> every room in the house was a vignette and it was absolutely unbelievable. 27 tropical birds, waterfalls, mists, cascading waters throughout the entire place. we had to do an awful lot to convince people to invest in such a crazy concept especially in the suburban neighborhood. >> ok. now you got this new concept called water, fire and ice. >> the ultra polar lounge but the hottest place on ice. >> let's take a look at what we've got here. you've got something like 100, 300 pounds of ice, right? >> took us 15 hours to put together in the rain by the way, in the middle of manhattan. we have art deco water. we have andrew mark coates and we have the gorilla. >> is that real ice? >> it's real ice. stick your tongue on this and see if you stick, brian. >> maybe not. >> that's gorgeous. >> and then if you got water,
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fire and ice, you obviously need fire and let's go over here by brian where apparently he is posing for playgirl magazine. >> this is how i broke into the business. >> get up a little bit. so brian, this is -- >> think it's rude to lay on the couch? >> congratulations on all your success. >> thank you very much. >> very excited. >> we just shot a polar bear and put it in here. >> how long did it take your workmen to put this together? >> took approximately 15 hours. >> 15 hours. >> there you go. >> thank you. >> took approximately 15 hours to put together. we have ice carvers that came as far as minnesota to put this together. ice occasions which is an incredible ice company out of minnesota. and they're actually in 300 column blocks of ice which is unbelievable. >> there's gretch! >> there you go. move that. >> steve, good to see you. and the very first rain forest cafe in the mall of america in
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1994. >> exactly. thank you very much. >> the five million people that live in minnesota said to say hello. said to say hello before i left. >> thank you, appreciate that. >> you're thinking about turning this concept into a restaurant? >> yes, i am. as a matter of the fact, the restaurant will be on the outside. people eating will be able to see everybody in the polar lounge inside which is absolutely phenomenal. >> i love the rain forest cafe and now i expect thunder and lightning in every restaurant i go to. >> going to happen here shortly. >> fantastic. >> we should point out the book "it's a jungle in there" which talks about some of your great inventions and innovations and this is what i love about this, steve, is everyone is looking for a job. what about an entrepreneur that creates their job and sees opportunity even in an economy like this. >> that's an entrepreneur that belongs on the trump show. donald will definitely welcome him. >> we're so excited to be visiting the ice palace throughout our show today. stick around, steve. we'll be right back. still ahead on our show, some
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airports planning to fire tsa agents in favor of private security companies. is it really that easy? judge napolitano will explain next. >> does being religious make you a better person? how about a better citizen? authors of a new study with their interesting results next. and by the way, his book "it's a jungle" is a benefit for the smile foundation. >> very nice. >> organization out of minnesota. >> thank you, steve. see you later in the show. [ male announcer ] you can dream of delivering leading edge i.t. solutions
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party is leading the u.s. towards fascism and calling us a ruling nation. dozens braved the cold weather to be the first in line. mr. bush will be signing copies of his new memoir "decision points" at a costco in utah. it's no surprise that americans are both united and divided by religion. but a new comprehensive study also discovered religion affects our lives in ways you wouldn't expect. from what kind of neighbor you are to your involvement in the political process. the co-authors of "how religion divides and unites us" professor david campbell and professor bob putnam join me to explain. good morning, professors. how did you decide to team up to write this book? >> well, we worked together for actually a few years. i saw bob at harvard a few years ago and we hatched this plan to write a book about religion and this is the result. >> what did you find in your comprehensive study? the overarching theme? >> well, the first part is that we've divided -- americans have
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become more and more polarized over religion over the last 350 years. we're more and more either very religious or very not religious. and more and more connected with our politics so we're actually more divided now than we were 50 years ago in public terms. but in private terms, we're more connected with one another in other ways. so there's more in marriage that cross religious lines and more people have friends that cross religious lines. it's hard to demonize people if you love people that are of another religion. >> that's fascinating. between 1/3 and 1/2 of all american marriages are interfaith. me and my husband have many friends that are interfaith. that tends to be true for every other person that would say the same thing. 1/3 of americans have switched religions at some points in their lives. how about that? >> one of the most remarkable things about the american religious environment that people switch back and forth over the course of their lives. that means even if you yourself never switch your own religion, you undoubtedly have friends,
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family members, maybe even your own spouse or children who do which adds to this mixing and mingling that we have across different religious lines. >> here the headline for me. was that religious people make better neighbors. how did you figure that out? >> we went looking to see in what ways religion, our democratic society and we did find that religious people counts the other things that make you a good neighbor, people are significantly more likely to volunteer and not to be just a church usher but to volunteer for secular causes, to help poor people and sick people and so on. more likely to work on community problems. more likely to vote. more likely to be involved in community affairs. generally better neighbors. >> all right, young people are morrow posed to abortion than their parents but more accepting of gay marriage much that's an interesting finding as well. >> that's right. what you find among younger people, the millenials they're sometimes called is the disconnect with the way that politics is typically discussed. this is a group that's a little more pro life than their parents and a lot more willing to accept homosexual rights and gay
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marriage and, you know, we normally think of opposition to abortion and opposition to gay marriage going together. but with young people, that isn't the case. >> so fascinating and so many more details in this book. airports responding to passenger complaints by threatening to fire the tsa. can they be replaced with private firms? judge napolitano is here to explain. that's next. funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good.
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>> one airport says it has the answer to end the backlash over the tsa's invasive patdowns and x-ray scanners called opt out. >> opt out of opt out. the director of orlando stanford international airport says he will write a letter requesting permission to use a private firm instead of the federal government's tsa. so can the airports legally do that?
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>> let's ask senator judicial analyst and host of fox -- excuse me "freedom watch" on fox business network, judge andrew napolitano. >> judge, congratulations on the show. talk about it in a second. real quick, you found out there is an opt out. >> believe it or not, there is a clause in the law which permits the operator of an airport to replace the tsa with private security guards who will be directed by the tsa but will do these things in a different way. we don't know what the different way is. what's significant is that there's such an uproar over this that a major airport like orlando, very significant airport in northern florida, is willing to do it. now, there's 150 major airports in the country. tonight, governor perry is on my show and i'm going to say to him, you have dallas and houston, two of the busiest airports in the country. are you going to ask them to get rid of the tsa? >> you were talking about that clause in the -- after he created it. here's how it reads. any u.s. airport is free to hire its own private contracting firm to conduct screenings so long as
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it uses federal screeners for a period of two years. now, obviously, if you're going to have your own company or somebody else, private contractors working on your behalf, you got to live up to the standards set by the federal government, don't they? >> they do. but this standard of the broke -- if you saw shepard smith's show, they had photographs taken by a denver post photographer that were lurid. >> looks like the tsa guy was a proctologist. >> correct. correct. it also looks like in fairness to some of these workers, they don't want to do it any more than people want it done to them. nevertheless, that's a subjective determination by john pistole. >> i don't understand this. i don't know if it's possible for us to. how do you react if you're a private firm to international intelligence coming in that makes the tsa able to react in a way, come in there to say look out here. won't tell a private firm that
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much intel. >> that's why there still will be federal agents on the scene. in some cases, there will be local police on the scene like in san francisco, to make sure the federal agents don't go too far. >> let's talk about "freedom watch" who do you got? >> rick perry, lou dobbs and geraldo rivera. dobbs and rivera aren't on at the same time or the same room. >> i wouldn't put them in the same building, judge napolitano. >> it will be something to watch. judge. >> thank you, guys. >> put a spy cam in the green room. >> meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, america fighting a third war on the mexican border but we're hearing the obama administration wants to pull back the national guard. what's going on, i ask? >> a view like you've never seen before. wait until you hear how these pictures were taken and they were not taken -- that's cool, by the hubble telescope. >> and i think it's -- we're putting our political panel on ice this morning. can they still bring the fire? we're outside all morning long where we stuck the judge and he's still angry in our very own ice castle. the history of moms
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>> tgif, everyone. because it's friday and it's november 19, 2010. thank you for sharing your time with us today. senator harry reid still not getting the message some say. why the senate majority leader has decided to go it alone on raising taxes even against the advice of some in his own party. >> ok. he ran through a flurry of bullets to rescue his friend from the clutches of the taliban. and for his bravery, he was awarded the medal of honor. sergeant -- staff sergeant salvatore giunta joins us live. you have to hear that story. >> meanwhile, he was president obama's main money man still spending millions of dollars to get him elected in 2008. now, word billionaire liberal george soros could be having buyer's remorse. what's that about? find out on this episode of "fox
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& friends", hour two for a friday starting now outside. >> ♪ i'm so hot for you i'm so hot for her she's so cold i'm so hot for her i'm on fire for her ♪ >> that's so cool. check out all the -- >> it is literally cool. >> no kidding. >> look at this, ladies and gentlemen, the first ever solid ice curvy couch covered in faux fur. >> you don't have to sit on it! >> steve might have his newest restaurant concept. >> yep. it's called water, fire and ice. he's got a brand new book out called "it's a jungle in there" the guy that came up with rain forest cafe and now moved on to water, fire and ice.
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today, particularly the ice part. we'll go back outside and see what it's all about shortly. >> that's the guy who can visualize a concept and put it into effect. let's put the headlines into effect now because we start with a community in mourning in ohio. >> hundreds of people gathering to pay their respects after that missing ohio family was found dead after a week-long search. the bodies of tina herman, cody maynard and stephanie spring were found inside a hollowed out tree. matthew hoffman apparently led police to her remains. hoffman charged now with kidnapping a fourth family member and holding her captive bought she's alive. she was in his basement. no motive has been released. the 27 miners that are missing this morning after an explosion ripped through a coal mine. this happened in new zealand. five miners escaped and say they lost track of the others. police say the blast could have been caused by a build-up of gas after the mine lost electricity. emergency crews are on the scene but fear the miners could be up to 5,000 feet below the surface
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and quickly running out of air. in just one hour, the new members of the house are about to take their first class photo. they just went through their first week on capitol hill for freshman orientation and a crash course in politics. later, the house will hold its lottery for office assignments. i wonder how that works. right now, president obama is in lisbon, portugal, he's in europe for a nato summit and participate in a joint u.s.-eu meeting. looking at new video of his arrival. his exit strategy in afghanistan is expected to be high on the agenda for these meetings and our own steve centanni is live in d.c. with all the details of the trip. good morning again, steve. >> good morning, gretchen. president obama arrived in lisbon just about an hour ago for two days of meetings with nato and the european union. now, the president stepped off air force one on a damp and drizzly morning at the portuguese capital. this meeting will focus on a game plan for troop withdrawals from afghanistan and today's
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international herald tribune, president obama writes an op ed piece says in lisbon, we'll align our approach so we can begin the transition to afghan responsibility early next year. and about hamid karzai's goal of afghan forces taking the lead for security across afghanistan by the end of 2014. now, nato has 140,000 troops in afghanistan. 2/3 of them are american. officials stress this latest plan with the focus on so-called aspirational date for a transition is not a clearcut deadline. >> it does not mean that all u.s. or coalition forces would necessarily be gone by that date. there may very well be the need for forces to remain in country, albeit hopefully smaller numbers to assist the afghans as they assume lead responsibility for the security of their country. >> the president will be in lisbon until late tomorrow and then back to washington. back to you. >> steve centanni live for us in d.c. thanks very much. have a great weekend.
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>> i know you're tired of this debate. you're tired of hearing about bush tax rates and are they going to continue past january 1st? but i have good news. this whole thing is coming to a head. >> he's got it. >> it has to because on january 1st, no party, no person wants all the rates to go up. now, harry reid is leading his party along with nancy pelosi and the president said i believe that those who are making less than $250,000 and below deserve the current tax rates in this recession. for those above, that's where the conflict is. so let's see how harry reid has come off his stance now that the election returns are in and clearly he's been repudiated. let's go. >> as you know, my friend senator mcconnell has offered legislation to extend them all, costing $4 trillion. if he wants a vote on that, i'll be happy to help arrange that but he should also help arrange a vote on 250, period. >> steve, what he's trying to do, what the democrats are trying to do is box the republicans in where they're going to have to vote or
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filibuster effectively that middle class tax cut. so mitch mcconnell who wants to make all of them permanent says this. votes structured for symbolic reasons in december won't prevent a tax hike in january. while some in congress have a strange desire to raise taxes on hundreds of thousands of small businesses across the country, republicans and a growing force of democrats believe that no one should have the government take even more out of their paycheck starting next year. >> apparently, these seven democrats who have announced opposition to harry reid's frame of mind on this whole issue, joe lieberman who is an independent but caucuses with the democrats, this is what he says over the tax hikes. he says the votes are not there to let the tax cuts for wealthier taxpayers simply expire. then you have chuck schumer of new york proposed raising the threshold for tax cuts to the one million mark. >> that's the geraldo idea. >> well and actually, that idea would probably pass with a lot more people than the 250 mark
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because let's face it, in today's age of 2010, if you're a small business owner, $250,000 is a lot of money but not really when you're running a business. >> conservative democrat senator ben nelson says a lot of the democrats think all the tax cuts should be suspended. they're hardly singing from the same part and we'll see what happens next week during the big vote. >> i don't think they're going to get it done. >> they got to. >> here's the thing. if they don't get it done in january, it's a whole new congress and we know how that would all flush out and maybe they would make the tax -- the tax rates that would go into effect retroactive to go back to the tax cut. >> i don't think they can actually do that. they have to do that before the end of the year. otherwise it goes out of business. otherwise, they pass a whole new law and get it out of both houses. curious thing going on. according to the huffington post which is every once and a while, reliable and accurate. they say george soros had some harsh criticism for the president of the united states in a meeting with some top donors on tuesday night. he came very close to suggesting
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that financial support for obama might be better directed some place else. one of his people said we're not suggesting any sort of primary challenge to the president. yet, it is interesting that mr. soros just doesn't feel as if he's getting a very good bang for his buck. >> what he's saying, what you're alluding to, steve, he doesn't feel obama is to the left enough. i mean, a lot of the country is hoping that president obama comes to the center after the mid-term elections. george soros is angry at him because he doesn't feel he's enough to the left. joe trippi and ari flesher heard this news and reacted on the bill o'reilly show last night. >> what he's worried about is obama will do what bill clinton did in the end of 1994 when we lost the house and try to start compromiseing and going down the middle. here's the big thing, you ain't seen nothing yet. wait until july of 2011 when the president has to make a decision about withdrawing from afghafgh.
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a wrote a piece for "the wall street journal" and said if there isn't a meaningful big withdrawal from afghanistan in 2011, the party may very well run a primary against barack obama. >> that's not going to happen. >> senator feingold, perhaps and maybe howard dean who is anti-everything. >> people in the room with soros and the donors say he's tired of "fighting losing battles but hated even more losing without fighting." he said we have just lost this election. we need to draw a line. so what will george do with his cash? stand by. >> i think this just shows that the country is getting more desperate, you know, you're going to have the far left and some would argue the far right. how would you ever find common ground? stay tuned. >> look where he's putting his money now. giving the money to the tide foundation. george soros has. put a million dollars in the pockets of media matters who
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want to pull the plug on fox news. it's a blog that nobody reads and over a million dollars to national public radio. >> doesn't ring a bell. sorry, steve. maybe we'll talk about it during the break. let's talk about something else. there seems to be a problem in this country of securing our southern border more than the northern border. and clearly when you see the violence that's happening especially right around the u.s.-mexican border and you hear the complaints from arizona and texas, you know that the message got to the white house. am i correct? when it comes to bolstering the border, that message had to hit home at the capital. >> indeed. and now it sounds as if what they're going to do is the president of the united states is going to tell at least 550 members of the national guard to move forward? >> no, to move backwards to retreat, go back to your home units. >> what? we've been -- we've been doing feature stories and hard news stories about how much crime is down there and some have referred to it as the third war that we're involved in. and for them to now be pulling the troops back home, is that
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the right direction? >> at the very same time, governor rick perry of texas who is the incoming chairman of the republican governors association, he thinks just the opposite. he thinks not only should the national guard not be leaving the borders but the u.s. military should maybe be going into mexico because of the drug problems there. here's the quote "i think we have to use every aspect of law enforcement that we have including the military, any means that we can use to run these people off our border and to save american lives, we need to be engaged in." now, remember, texas has the longest span of border of any state along mexico and remember that that american man was shot in the head on a jet ski, technically in mexico on that lake. but very close to texas and rick perry, this is near and dear to the heart of rick perry. >> he sees the mexican police and army taking charge of the drug cartels, might have to put our own men and women in harm's way to protect our border.
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that's staggering to think. that's the reality he lives with. >> while republicans are calling for more of the military down on the border, he's saying move out. >> let's go. >> speaking of let's go, straight ahead, all the taliban wanted was the body of an american soldier. the man who risked his life to make sure that did not happen here. sergeant sal gianti here live. the first living person to win the medal of honor. he was awarded that more than four years by the president of the united states. >> and our political panel usually gets -- can they bring the fire when they're surrounded by a whole bunch of ice? you're going to find out and i'll find out next. >> i think they're serving the drinks. >> come on! >> we've got a flood. hits the road, the nose the angels start second guessing where they tread. ♪ cl 1-800-steemer
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violation. it's the most severe punishment short of expulsion. here's what congressman rangel had to say before the decision. >> it would really help and i don't think it's out of line if the committee didn't say it before that you can put in that report no matter what you agree the sanction should be that your member was not corrupt and did not seek and did not gain anything personally for the bad conduct that i've had. >> so was justice served? joining me on our political panel this morning in the ice palace is brad o'leary, publisher of o'leary report and author of america's war on christianity, jamie floyd, attorney and legal analyst and former speechwriter for secretary of state condaleeza rice. thank you so much for obliging us to come out to the ice palace. >> thanks for having me. >> we just heard congressman rangel, the buzz word to me was please don't call me corrupt. but instead they said censure. right or wrong? >> i think it's right. i think it's a positive move. members of congress should be
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held to an even higher standard than ordinary citizens. and what kind of message does it send if he doesn't have to be held accountable? >> yeah, but jamie, if the regular joe on the street had faced these charges, you're a lawyer, they might have been locked up, censure, i looked it up. it just means kind of getting a little bit in trouble like a time-out. >> this is a tough one for me because, of course, i am born and raised here in new york. grew up with charlie rangel. the man is 80 years old and i'm a democrat. and so is he. but i got to say, i agree with her on holding our representatives to a higher standard. was this high enough? i don't know. it breaks my heart. 20 terms of service. and this is how it ends for charlie rangel? legacy. this may be his legacy. i don't know if this was enough. but in the end, this is what we'll remember of charles ran l rangel. >> many americans are saying he did it to himself. >> he did. he's a war hero. he wrote a wonderful book about
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his experiences in america. he should have quit. and he should have paid his taxes and the evidence against him is clear. he should have been expelled. and what kind of message do we send to the many employees of the federal government who haven't paid their taxes and don't intend to. >> jamie, would you feel differently if he was a republican? >> no, no. i think what this raises, though and your question really goes right to this. can the body police itself? should there have been and should we have going forward independent assessment of congressmen on the right or left, republicans or democrats when they get into trouble? can they really make a fair assessment of one of their own? this was a bipartisan panel. >> which i think one of the first things in recent time that showed that both sides came to an agreement on something. but is it also a support for term limits? >> you know, i think a sense of entitlement does come with public service for that long
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and, you know, i'm not necessarily in support of term limits but 40 years and i think that when you're a career politician like that, you know, things just -- you're not really living the life of a normal citizen. >> all right. well, panel, stick around, if you will, in our ice palace because we want to talk about this. a success or a setback? two sides on how the first civilian terror trial will shape the decision to prosecute more terror suspects in civilian courts. and former flight attendant steven slater, remember that guy? getting comfortable in his new job. but he's still got some work to do before the rap career really takes off. what?
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$3.7 million. that's how many jobs were created or saved by the stimulus program. next $15 million, how much an irishman dubbed the naked sleepwalker was awarded in a lawsuit against employer who released the story of him sleepwalking naked into the secretary's room on a business trip. and finally, 350 million bucks. that's how much the rent is too damn high guy, the party leader, jimmy mcmill an is suing the new york state board of elections. he says the state intentionally left the word damn off the ballots when he ran for governor and mayor in 2006 and 2009. therefore, he lost. the state says the name was simply too damn long to fit in. gretch? >> yeah, yeah. we're chatting out here, brian, with the panel. it was supposed to be a dry run for trying terrorists in the u.s. but now that ex-gitmo detainee ghliana has been cleared on all but one charge,
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many are calling it a huge mistake. what does the verdict mean for future terror trials? we're back with our political panel. brad, i'll let you take a crack at this one. >> i think what we see here is a muslim who doesn't want to have america have judeo christian law being freed because of judeo christian law and it's obviously a mistake that we should not be trying people, giving people the same rights that we give all our other citizens who have killed people and he's killed 200 americans. >> jamie, you're -- >> let me make sure i understand what you're saying. we should not give them the same rights that we give others? >> i have to say i disagree with that? i think this was not a mistake. this was a victory for our judicial system. this was a vindication of the department of justice. >> how? >> the obama administration. >> 284 charges. > >> people were saying there would be violence here in new york, that the system would collapse, that the federal
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civilian system could not handle it. there was no violence. we've had terror trials here in new york before. we can handle it. and the system functioned. we have a constitution in this country that permits us to have these trials and in fact, requires that we give the rights and due process to people like him. >> i want to listen to attorney general eric holder and i want to ask you, what the heck would have happened if they didn't convict him on just this one charge. what would america have done with him then? let's listen to the attorney general. >> at the conclusion of the case, ask you to ask me that question again and i'll give you the same answer which is our free courts are fully capable of handling these matters. >> fully capable, jamie. so hypothetically, let's say he doesn't get convicted of anything. then did the civilian court work? >> if he doesn't get convicted of anything, we have to take a look at what happened to the other detainees that have been repatriated to their countries
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of origin so people aren't just set free in the united states which is the misinformation that's given to the american public given by proponents. remember moussaoui who was tried also in the united states and sitting in prison where he belongs. >> but military tribunals, all that evidence that was not allowed in the civilian court would have been allowed. >> correct. >> i don't even think it's so much about, you know, the evidence per se, the evidence that supposedly would have allowed this key witness to participate. it's the fact -- you know, is this a criminal. are we treating him like a common criminal or is he an enemy combatant? i certainly think he's an enemy combatant and doesn't deserve the same to be tried in a court in new york. >> this is what the state department says. after the one lone conviction for a 20-year sentence. a jury of 12 americans convicted him of a terrorist conspiracy. well, that's not what it was. yeah, a miscarriage of justice,
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no, it's called the rule of law. >> it's about whether or not evidence that is received through torture can be admitted in a court of law. and whether or not that evidence is valid evidence. if you torture someone, can you rely on that evidence in court? is it valid? is what that witness told you truthful? >> there was another -- >> parliament to this country, we gave him justice that he wouldn't have had if he would have been kicked out of the country -- absolutely not! >> that's a fair point. >> this is a murderer. >> there could be some kind of hybrid national security court. this has been proposed by several legal scholars that could have, you know, the military tribunal aspect but also civilian judicial appointees also and i think that's -- auto oont the military commission system that we have. >> no doubt, there's a huge question mark as to how the future terror trials will go and we'll have to stay tuned for that panel.
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thank you so much for your thoughts. >> in the ice palace. >> yeah. >> fun to be out here. >> coming occupy tup on the sho the taliban wanted was the body of an american soldier. our next guest made sure that didn't happen. the first living person to be awarded the medal of honor in more than 40 years. then one more clue in the natalee holloway case. a jaw identified as that of a woman, a jaw bone, now the investigation back in full swing. with capital one's vture card, we get double mi on every purchase. echo! so we earned a trip thgrand canyon twice as fast. uhoh. we get double miles evy time we use our card. i'ltake these. no matter what we're buying. plus the damas. and since double miles add up quick, we can bring the whole gang.
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there and we'll see if we can help you make that dream come true. >> how cool is that? >> that would be fantastic. you talk about dramatic live television, that would exactly be it. >> could be a wedding you'll never forget. >> fox and friends.com. >> hopefully you'll last. new details right now for the natalee holloway case. the missing teenager's father has sent his daughter's dental records to investigators. they want to compare them to a jaw bone found on a beach in aruba last week. medical examiners already know it's the bone of a young woman and it was found near a resort where joran van der sloot told investigators to look. she was on the island five years ago. >> new details in the murder of a prominent hollywood publicist. investigators out west say the slaying may have been planned. a hit job. police in bevrley hills say it
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may have been a hit. motive not known but the original thought that she was killed as a result of road rage and carjacking, now unlikely. >> a search may be done today in alaska for the pilot of an x-22 fighter jet. searchers will be concentrating on an area 100 miles north of anchorage. the plane disappeared from radar during a training exercise on tuesday. an air search found some of the wreckage. brian? >> the most famous former flight attendant steven slater is tackling a new career. as a rapper. >> ♪ my name is steven slater and i no longer don't be a hater because you never flew 500,000 miles in a little tin can ♪ >> what planet am i on? is this happening? slater's rap is part of his new gig as a spokesperson for the mobil app. he's promoting their mile high
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text club which encourages people to share their wackiest flying experiences. critics say slater looks more like an emperor palpatine from "star wars." i'm not a big "star wars" guy. >> you're the wrong person to have on the couch with me. very similar. >> there you go. >> another guy famous for the wrong reason. doing the wrong thing. >> that is the oddest video we've seen all week. >> something that's never odd, steve doocy when he talks about the weather, he's all business. >> steven slater, didn't he look like one of the guys in "star wars" with the hoodie like that. >> yes, he did. it's so ironic. >> i'm outside and they have taken 300 100 pound blocks of ice to create this beautiful ice palace in the heart of midtown manhattan. isn't it cool? i should be wearing boots. suddenly my feet are sopping wet. we'll tell you more about the water, fire and ice concept in a couple of minutes. right now, let's take a look at what's going on in the sky.
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we actually have some real snow moving through portions of the -- you can see the u.p., upper peninsula of michigan at this hour. we've had a little bit moving through portion of the state of new york. i have fake snow all over my face. a little rain and snow moving through portions of oregon. much of the balance of the country is nice and dry. if somebody would hit the space bar on the weather machine, it will move to the next map. thank you very much. i bet that was steve. it's chilly in rapid city. 23 there. right now here in new york city, we have 41 degrees. one more space bar and we'll find out what kind of day we got ahead. look at that, right now, it's 39 in dallas but eventually things will warm up to 69 degrees. 71 in san antonio. going to be a beautiful day there. look at florida showing off at 80 degrees in tampa. and caribou, maine, the low of
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29. and that's a quick look at your fox travelcast. >> a chocolate biscotti? >> thank you very much. for you, man. >> and just out of curiousity, if you're wondering how they make the snow, it's that thing. >> all right. >> i'll block it for you. >> thank you very much. >> all right. now let's go into brian kilmeade who has a very, very special guest. >> all right. that's good team work there. you're about to hear another exceptional team work story. >> in october of 2007, intercepted by army radio from the taliban/al-qaida. it said they wanted an american body. the next day, a team of army soldiers were heading back to camp in afghanistan, well, it's in the afghanistan's deadly valley when they were surrounded by taliban fighters and were fired on from all sides. within seconds, staff sergeant josh brennan was hit and went down. immediately two members of the taliban tried to carry sergeant brennan's body away. that's when staff sergeant
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salvatore giunta who, by the way, saw his best friend being taken went into action. running through a flurry of bullets, he was hit twice while continuing to fire on the enemy. he retreated to his buddy's body and returned to camp. because of his bravery then and before that in the same fire fight, sergeant giunta was awarded the medal of honor by president obama on tuesday. he is the first living member in over 40 years to receive that honor. and guess what? joining us now in studio, staff sergeant salvatore giunta and his lovely wife jennifer. welcome to both of you. >> thank you for having us. >> what an honor it is to have you in studio. it's a 15 month deployment. when did you realize that it wouldn't be like any other deployment? >> the first day in the valley, we knew it wasn't going to be like any other deployment. just the terrain and how much kinetic activity that was actually going on in the valley was something that even us combat vets before in afghanistan have never seen. >> staff sergeant, the way i
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understand it is it never stopped. you were constantly under fire. treacherous to go to bathroom. >> yeah. it was. i mean, the korengal valley was no joke. we were there to help them and there was a lot of bad guys that didn't want to see that happen. >> you're in the midst of -- your team decided we have to go on a five day mission to engage the enemy. and it was the fifth day of that five day mission when you were engaged by the enemy and surrounded. can you relive that for us? >> i don't know about relive it all. but our job there in afghanistan is to engage the populous and let them know, hey, we're here to help you and try to help them help themselves. and in doing that, sometimes we get shot at and we're trained soldiers. i mean, this is what we do. we're professionals so we'll fight if we have to. and that night was, you know, we were on a five day mission and we were engaging the populous making sure they were ok.
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and they set up an ambush on us. >> and you're totally surrounded, am i correct? >> it was an l shape. we were surrounded -- not surrounded but shot at from two different sides. but the distance of about 15 to 30 meters so the way they set up on us, everyone in that first -- in our platoon line pretty much got shot at at the same time and got hit at the same time or, you know -- >> you got hit. and thankfully you had the kevlar on. >> absolutely. the technology we have today is incredible. >> you've heard this story and now you're stationed in italy and you know afghanistan is danger. did you know how much danger? >> i didn't know to the extreme that it was and i didn't know because he didn't tell me. he couldn't tell me. he didn't want me to worry. and i think it was good for me and i understand why they don't do that for a lot of wives. >> i can only imagine as you hear this story and how it unfolded, staff sergeant, you know you get over the radio the day before that the taliban or al-qaida, the terrorist
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insurgents want an american body. your antenna is up for that. how soon after do you see him taken away? >> i actually never saw him get hit. we were -- the two guys on my team were engaging, and sergeant was helping a specialist who was shot and his weapon was jammed so because my guys were doing everything they needed to, i couldn't help them. i just ran forward. i didn't know brennan had been hit at all. i was going to go up there, shoot next to him. everybody else had their piece taken care of and make sure everything was good for him. when i ran up to go see what he was up to, that's when i saw the anti-coalition forces taking him away. >> and what did you do? >> i just kept on running and shooting and trying to close the distance between them and me. i shot one, i killed one guy. the other one, you know, i extended my magazine by the time i get to brennan, i grabbed on to his body armor and just
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dragged him back to the line. >> and jen, what are your thoughts as you're hearing this? running into bullets, into fire. >> i don't know how he did it. i don't know how he did it. i'm amazed. i can't believe what they went through. >> and unfortunately, and sadly, brennan passes away. but you can be heartened by the fact that he knew the last thing he saw was his guys had him back. and you were able to get him. >> i hope he never knew that, he wasn't without us. >> but he knew you were with him at the end. so you had -- this has been an incredible story and it happened in october of 2007. this has been a week, can you describe it, jen, where you get this prestigious award? and you get this medal and you go to the white house. >> the white house is unreal. i mean, this time is all exciting. we're doing a lot of things that we would never get an opportunity to do. but we're taking the time to highlight all the other guys that were there with him. because it represents everyone.
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it doesn't just represent sal. but represents all the guy that was there with him. he didn't do anything alone. >> and staff sergeant, knowing that you're a humble guy and on record as saying i'm mediocre, don't give me too much credit but we are and america has. where do you go? how do you move forward with this prestigious honor? >> i think with this, it's given me a platform to remind the american people that we are a nation at war. and there is american servicemen and women out there every single day willing to give their lives for this country. and that's the reason why we're free today. and if that's all i can tell people because i'm able to come into these great studios and meet, you know, all these different people, then that's the role i think we'll play for this. >> jen, you proud of him? >> of course. i'm proud of him and i'm proud of all of them. >> staff sergeant salvatore giunta and jennifer, thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> thanks for having us. >> meanwhile, coming up straight ahead, let's go over to gretchen and steve. what's next on "fox & friends"? >> what an honor to have him and jen with us today.
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>> great job. >> that's awesome! >> coming up on our show, parents now allowed to petition and overthrow their school leaders. is that a good idea? tucker carlson is here with the new controversial idea. >> we're going outside live to our very own ice palace on the plaza where they're serving up the hot chocolate. it's pain relief without the pills. no pills, no pain. how can you get pain relief without taking pills around the clock? try thermacare heatwraps, for all day relief without pills. i was surprised, thermacare worked all day. you feel the heat. and it relaxes and unlocks the muscle. you've got to try it. [ man ] thermacare, more effective for back pain than the maximum dose of acetaminophen, the medicine in tylenol. go to thermacare.com today for a $3 off coupon. thermacare. no pills. no pain. just relief.
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>> some quick headlines right now. today, we could learn the date and location of the royal wedding of prince william and kate middleton, oh, boy! the most recent speculation is the ceremony will be in march or july and probably at westminster abbey and a tech savvy astronaut sharing some out of this world images. he tweeted this view of the northern lights taken from the
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international space station. also tweeted this bird's eye view of italy a couple of months back. now for a bird's eye view of something cold. >> here are some hard, cold facts. it took 30,000 pounds of ice and 12 hours of carving to create this great ice palace that brian and i are sitting in right now and it's not only a new restaurant concept but way to bring attention to a very important charity. >> we're back now with steve shussler, founder of the rain forest cafe and author of a brand new book "it's a jungle in there." tell us about these coats. >> these coats are unbelievable. they come from a 25 year luxury brand apparel brand and it's one of the top in the country and the reason that we decided to do this with them is because what we too is top collar, all the way around. everything that we do. and the one i'm wearing now is a mountain coat. it's sherling. crafted using vintage napa
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shearling. what am i wearing? >> gretchen is wearing a but on down puffer and it keeps you warm while looking chic. >> now my turn. i'm wearing -- >> you have to get up and model. >> you're wearing an ultimate bomber. >> you're wearing a wool coat featuring national -- in the national ad campaign for andrew mark and it's a sophisticated and edgy coat. >> but the best thing about this is the cause that this is all about. >> that's exactly right. it's a grassroot cause from minnesota, it was started by a woman by the name of kim valentini called smile network international and we fix cleft palates and cleft lips of underprivileged young children and young adults in third world countries. it's the most amazing cause because to fix a cleft palate or cleft lip when you see someone with a deformed face and you see them after their surgery for $500, we can fix a person's face forever. >> if you want more information about that wonderful cause, go
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to fox and friends.com and link up to your links as well. we're not done with the ice palace this morning. we'll be back out here a little later on in the next hour as well. see you then. >> coming up, tired of the trouble with schools? well, parents now allowed to sign a petition and overflow their school leaders. find out where it's happening. >> first on this date in 2001, mary j.blige had the number one song "family affair." we could do this with the fashion show. funny how nature just knows how to make things that are good for you. new v8 v-fusion + tea. one combined serving of vegetables and fruit with the goodness of green tea and powerful antioxidants. refreshingly good.
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>> welcome back on this friday. some parents are taking reform, education reform into their own hands thanks to a california law passed earlier this year, parents can now actually fire a principal or even shut down a
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failing school. how? by simply getting a majority of that school's parents to sign a petition. the idea has gained such popularity that now three states have the law and five others are considering it. here with more is fox news contributor and founder of "the daily caller" tucker carlson. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> this is, you know, i had not heard about this. it's the trigger law where if 51% of school's parents sign a petition, they can do what? >> they can in effect take over the school. they get 51% on a form of signatures and they can shut the school down. they can replace the principal and the staff. they can convert the school to a charter school. in effect, this law which by the way, was conceived of and pushed by liberal interest groups turns control of public education back over to parents and takes away from teachers union. predictably teachers union have gone crazy. one teachers union official in california liken parents that do
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this to nazis and by the way, this law applies only to schools that are failing so this is almost exclusively going to be applied to inner city schools with heavy minority populations and they're nazis for even considering it, that tells you how threatened teachers union are by this. they ought to be. >> aren't you amazed something this radical would pass in california? >> yes, until you take a good look at what california schools are producing. in los angeles county, for instance, the largest school district in california, if you are a student in an l.a. public school, you have a 10% chance of going to college. 10%. >> man. >> so they're failing. and there's no getting around that. and i think even liberals are waking up to the reality of it which is these schools are completely unacceptable. what we're doing isn't working and teachers unions are a huge part of the problem. >> sure. let's take another look at what some of these things -- four options, the trigger options. first, you could turn -- convert to a charter school. we've heard a lot about that. >> yes. >> you could turn around -- the
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current school district can bring in a new staff or fire the principal and hire a new one or closure, shut down the school and send the kids to another school as well. >> right. >> has this been implemented anywhere yet? >> well, it's -- parents have tried. i mean, in at least one case, it seems clear that opponents of this and that again would be organized labor sent out flyers in spanish that made the following claim. that if you sign this petition, you could be deported from the country. >> what? >> yes. yes. you could be deported. this is in a school district that's very heavily spanish speaking, a lot of illegal people living here illegally have kids in the school, this is, you know, a lie and outrageous but it gives you a sense of the desperation that unions are feeling in the face of this. >> all right, so the trigger law out in california could be coming to a state near you. tucker carlson always a pleasure, thanks very much for dropping by on this friday. >> thanks, steve. i appreciate it.
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>> you bet. straight ahead, airports responding to tons of passenger complaints by threatening to fire the tsa. can they be replaced with private firms? that story is coming up. and an ice cold geraldo rivera standing by on the plaza with brian kilmeade. he's going to join us at the top of the hour. i'm hugh jidette. i'm running for president. if elected promise our 13 trillion dollar debt will
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>> gretchen: tgif, top of the morning to you. it's friday and it's november 19, i'm gretchen carlson. the house ethics committee not buying congressman charlie rangel's sob story. he's now facing send sewer. is that a tough enough punishment? >> steve: terrorist ghailani getting convicted on one out of 284 counts. yet the white house says, mission accomplished. so what comes first, justice or politics?
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we'll ask geraldo that in a moment. >> brian: and the debate you've been waiting for. man versus muppet. >> steve: do you know geraldo rivera? >> yes, i love his mustache. >> brian: what does geraldo think about elmo? i'll ask him that. he responds, "fox & friends" starts now. ♪ fire and ice ♪ >> steve: the guy behind the cafe has come up with a new concept with a restaurant called water, fire and ice. and guess what we have a lot of outside. >> brian: and that was pat
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benatar, but she is not here live. >> steve: geraldo is here live. is your butt frosted? >> i think we have a new concept here to keep your guests on edge. [ laughter ] >> brian: we woke you up. >> i'm ready. >> gretchen: good thing when you come and chat with us, you'll be on the real couch and not the ice. >> steve: but his pants are damp. >> gretchen: let's get to some headlines before geraldo dries up. right now rescue crews are preparing to search for 27 missing miners, a gas explosion ripped through a coal mine in new zealand. five escaped and say they lost track of the others. police say the blast could have been caused by a build-up of gas after the mine lost electricity. they can't get to the miners until they know it's all clear. ♪ >> steve: been this is a community in mourning. hundreds of people gathering to pay their respects after a missing ohio family was found
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dead after a week long search. the bodies of tina herman, cody maynard and stephanie sprag were found miles from their home. 30-year-old matthew hoffman apparently led police to the remains. that's the same guy charged with kidnapping a fourth member of that family and holding her captive in his baitment. she was found alive a few days ago. no motive has been released. florida congressman john mica says airports should replace tsa agents with private security officials. the republican law maker says private screeners are more sensitive, more efficient, faster and cheaper. orlando sanford international considering opting out of tsa security measures. san francisco made the move. the tsa allows them to hire private screeners but still have to follow tsa rules and guidelines. you're taking a live look at
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president obama in portugal. later he'll meet with socrates. he's in town for a summit. a live look at the steps of the capitol, i think. the freshmen house members of congress are about to take their first class photo. they went through their first week on capitol hill. they had a crash course in politics. after the photo, the house will hold its lottery for office assignments. >> steve: maybe that's what they're doing. they're trying to get good office space. >> gretchen: kind of like we do here. you just put your hand in a bowl and take out a number. >> brian: i don't know how we ended up with our offices. >> steve: geraldo has a window and a corner office and joins us live. >> senior man. >> steve: yes. let's talk about this. they found a jaw bone belonging to perhaps a young woman down in aruba. people are going, that could be natalee holloway. >> we spoke to her dad, dave,
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yesterday and indeed, the stories are true. well, we don't know even -- let me back up. it has not been confirmed, although it is widely reported that it is a young female jaw bone. forensically they determined that preliminarily in aruba. although dave has not been officially informed of that. now the jaw bone has been sent to the netherlands where they have more sophisticated forensic material. everybody is waiting with baited breath. the f.b.i. has forwarded electronically more of natalee holloway's dental records. there has also been more physical evidence sent to them. obviously this is a breakthrough five years after the fact that everyone has been waiting for if indeed it is her. >> brian: let me ask, how unlikely is this, five years later for it to wash up on shore? >> i've been through so many ups and downs with this poor family. remember, there were divers last year who found a skull and cross
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bones. they were certain because it was in the area of the caribbean where it was presumed that joran van der sloot had an opportunity to dump her body after she died during rough sex, quote, unquote. but to get your hopes raised that way and to have them crushed is very difficult. that's why death -- why they're so frustrated. her mom very much wants to the have closure and answers. none of them believe her still to be alive. >> gretchen: let's talk about another hot topics that's been going on in new york. the first civilian trial of an alleged terrorist who had been held at guantanamo bay. many people are seeing this as a political situation now because of the 285 counts, this ghailani guy is convicted on one count and not even a terrorism or murder, but of conspiracy. where do you see this? >> well, if you're asking me whether or not i see it as a political victory or defeat for the obama administration, i
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think it doesn't change anyone's minds. i think the people who were opposed to civil trials point to it and say, see, the civilian courts can't deal with it. the people who support them say see, despite all of the transgressions that happened with this defendant prior to this trial, the torture that everybody admits happened to this murderous fiend, and the fact that he was in c.i.a. black holes, these detention centers with no rights and no visitors and all the rest of it, and still having all that evidence thrown out, they still get a conviction where he's facing 20 years mandatory minimum. you can argue that they see the system work. i, gretchen, i know that we, or steve, that we don't agree on this. i still would prefer a civilian trial. i think it should be in the shadow of the twin tower. this guy was the embassy bombings in africa. but i still believe this was the proper forum and the longer you keep them in detention, the more
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you'll have road blocks because of the prosecution. >> gretchen: what if they had not even convicted him on that one charge? >> it would have been horrible. >> gretchen: what would have happened? the president would have had to made a decision about putting him back at gitmo. this could have been complete chaos. >> but it was not. regardless. >> brian: let's look at the future. what does it mean? if i'm a terrorist and they learn from this system, they know what to say in terms of interrogation, they know exactly where they're heading and now you have to ask soldiers to -- >> we are at war for a decade with these people. they are not stupid people. they are devious and treacherous and very -- they are more trouble than they are worth. to a certain ex at the present time, tent, in the heat of -- extent and in the heat of combat in the context of a fighting
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war, you have considerable latitude on what do you with these people. but that does not extend for keeping for them a decade in the sewer someplace and periodically torturing them. brian, that's not who we are. what are we fighting for? we're fighting to replace the taliban with what? the american taliban? >> brian: i want maximum intelligence out of these guys and i want our professionals to be able to do it and our professionals are the c.i.a. i still don't know why they didn't challenge the fact that he was so-called tortured because they could have challenged that. >> you had on this couch not a half hour ago a man who the staff sergeant who won the medal of honor, that's who we are. that's who america is. we're not the sleazebags who take these people into the closet and jab them 16 times to get them to admit to something that's probably unreliable to begin with. i was in nairobi, i covered that hole in the ground and i saw the suffering and it was horrible the. and the 200 odd dead and i was there at the embassy staff all
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shaken and shattered, 1998, i was there. >> brian: but? >> there is no but. there is a difference between us and them. it is -- it is a war between ideology and philosophy. >> brian: do you also agree with this, if they don't come clean on -- we don't find a way to come clean on what they know, there won't be any us? >> i think the thing that is most lamentable is that politicians saw and saw short-term political gain in their opposition or their support of civilian trials. it has not been analyzed, i believe, in an objective way. >> steve: we'll leave it right there. i got a feeling you two are not going to agree. meanwhile, somebody you've known for years, charlie rangel yesterday was censured by the house, first time since 1984.
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>> brian says they always have six degrees of separation. stud got reelected. >> brian: you're connected to everything! >> gretchen: what about charlie rangel? >> steve: look at the headline, crocodile tears. >> imagine being 80 years old, having a 40 year career in congress and being ritualistically shamed. this is not a small thing. to be publicly shamed, which is worse, it's not like the man who got thrown out because he took bribes and was a total crook, the ohio democrat. but what charlie did, not reporting the income for that house in the dominican republic and some of the other things he did with the apartment in harlem and all the rest of it, his constituents still returned him with 80% of the vote in the november midterm, but still, i say when you look at charlie and you know how proud he is over the years, this is an important event in his life.
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his career now will be tarnished, be tainted, be diminished by -- >> steve: why didn't he resign? >> i would have resigned months ago. but he decided to stick it out. now he has -- he is before his colleagues and as they say, you are a disgrace before the united states congress. >> gretchen: the average joe would be in prison. >> he might be. >> gretchen: let's move on to elmo. yesterday elmo was here and he talked about geraldo. watch this new england patriots tomorrow on our program, do you know geraldo rivera? >> yes, i love his mustache. >> brian: he was on sesame street. >> gretchen: his mustache is legendary. >> it's a muppet. >> steve: he says your mustache is a muppet. >> it has its own personality. >> steve: you've been on sesame street, haven't you? >> i have. it was delightful. i was with big bird and he's so
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tall and you want to look at his place where the eyeballs are. that's another story. don't get me going. it was delightful and having children and all the different decades, i've been a sesame street fan for 50 years now. >> gretchen: that's a great way to sum up your appearance. have a fantastic weekend. >> thank you. nice to see the three of you back together. >> brian: back to the ice palace. >> i'll use your jacket again. >> brian: straight ahead. >> gretchen: a dance team late to a tv appearance ditches their car in a traffic tunnel and makes a run for it, but they didn't get very far of the wait until you hear what happened next. >> brian: and if you can't beat them, shut them up. that's what liberals want to do to fox news, rush limbaugh and some other channel. and their message has made it all the way to capitol hill. what about freedom of speech? peter johnson, jr. is next. >> steve: you're looking live at new members of the incoming
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class of congress. they're going to have their class photo taken. smile big, guys. you're on "fox & friends"!
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>> steve: the first amendment under siege. this week, west virginia senator rockefeller took a shot at fox news, blaming cable news for planting the seeds of political division in this country. >> i hunger for quality news. i'm tired of the right and the left. there is a little bug inside of me which wants to get the fcc to say to fox and to msnbc, out, off, end, good-bye.
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>> steve: is senator rockefeller suggesting censoring the press? is that legal. let's talk to peter johnson, jr. >> it's not legal. there is something called the seditino act in the united states in which the federalist party tried to target the republican party and they basically closed down newspapers and prosecuted newspaper editors. obviously senator rockefeller comes from an iconic family and is a man of service and a patriot here in america. and in some ways i'm glad he said what he said. >> steve: why? >> because he's expressing his first amendment right to do that and i think all of us need to protect and preserve that. >> steve: peter, he would like to pull the plug on whatever you were about to say. >> that being said, the media has always had to fight against the power of the ruling class and the government. he's speaking a member of the ruling class and expressing his
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opinion. in terms of fox news, i must tell you, steve, you're one of the bull works of fox news, when i met thousands of people and they say to me, almost to a person, thank god for fox news, especially in this difficult climate in this country where there are so many issues and where in the past, there had not been an opportunity to hear these things. we have a history in this country, though, and even goes back to president lincoln, closing down newspapers in the civil war where government will try to oppress the rights of americans to express themselves. so americans have to speak out in the ways that they do in response. >> steve: we both know this, that before fox news came along, it's pretty much the same message coming out of your television. we've shaken that up and it sounds to some like rockefeller doesn't want any sort of -- to be held accountable by anybody in the media. >> the problem is, when an elected official, a long-term elected official and a very respected person says that, it
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creates suspicion and really terror in some quarters in the united states as to what the government is doing. we had an experience last year where the white house tried to exclude fox news from a pool about a year ago and they said, well, you all can be in it, but fox news can't be in it. the american people left and right, will not allow that to happen to fox news. will not allow that to happen to any provider of news, and opinions, which fox does, provides news and opinion. i think fair and balanced and opinion of all sorts. but when we hear this, it gets our hackles up as american, as journalists, as commentators, as analysts. i think if he had an opportunity, he would walk that back. clearly he's a patriot, but i think his frustration is getting the best of him. >> steve: i believe his wife, sharon, is the president of the pbs television station. >> chief executive, yes. >> steve: down in washington, d.c. >> coincidence? i don't know. >> steve: probably not.
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peter, thank you very much. have a great weekend. straight ahead, governors along the border desperate for more help in fighting our third war. so why is the obama administration pulling back the national guard? what is going on down south? are you getting cheated at the checkout? why many americans are paying more but getting less when it comes to everyday stuff, like orange juice or toilet paper. oh, don't tell me chips ahoy, too.
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>> gretchen: welcome back. in this economy, the last thing a consumer needs is to pay more and get less. that's exactly what's happening when you go shopping at your local supermarket. >> brian: here to expose the tricks, mandy walker, the senior product manager with "consumer reports." how dare they. what have you discovered? >> this has been going on for some time. i went back into "consumer
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reports" archives and found out that in 1959, we surveyed our readers and they said the main thing they wanted us to cover was deceptive packaging. it's been going on for a while. but the economy is making things worse. toilet paper, the main thing they do with paper products is they either shrink the size or make them thinner. in this case, they shrunk the size 42 square feet less that you're getting for the same price. >> gretchen: how dare they do that? even my kids say, mommy, i don't like this toilet paper. >> brian: sheryl crow might have to use three scares. >> gretchen: let's move to chips ahoy. >> fewer cookies. fewer chips probably, too. but they went from 16 ounces to about 15 and three quarters. we asked them why and they said because the packaging changed to keep the cookies fresher. i don't know how long they stay in your house. the thing to do is know the unit cost, especially if you're loyal to brands because you look at
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the unit price, then you will know how much per ounce it is, then you might notice. >> brian: tell me about orange juice. >> tropicana, another test looked and found 64-ounce, they up or down it out and there was 55 ounces. when you open snack foods, everything deflates. >> brian: that's a problem. that's illegal. >> that is something that should be reported. if you find something like that, you definitely should let them know. >> brian: i believe we just did. >> there you go. >> to save, you might want to consider store brands. a recent taste test found that -- they looked at public o.j. versus tropicana and found public was slightly less bitter and a less cooked taste. you might want to think about that. they're often as good or better and lots cheaper. you save like 30%. when the new containers came out, they said new size?
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they didn't tell you there was about an ounce less in it. you might want to consider also joining warehouse clubs. we found that even with the price of admission, the annual fee, you can save on a lot of different items, especially paper products, baked goods and foil and batteries. >> brian: they're messing with your trust and trust is the most important thing for a product 'cause that builds loyalty. tell me about the soap. >> the soap went from 4.5 ounces to 4 ounces. definitely, if you complain to the manufacturers, this is something they've been doing a long time. the best thing you really can do if you want to save money, vote with your feet. try store brands, join warehouse clubs. >> gretchen: they just expect that when you look at this, that you're not going to be able to tell a part is missing. >> yeah, and the toilet paper and they down size the squares. maybe when you put it in the hole, you'll notice it's smaller. >> brian: do you have a web site? >> consumerreports.com. >> gretchen: thank you.
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>> brian: steve, what doing outside? >> steve: it's not only cold, it's snowing. or appears to be. straight ahead on this friday morning, does harry reid still not get it? once again, he's pushing to extend tax cuts for only the middle class. so when will congress finally make a decision? that is coming up with chris wallace. and it took five carvers nearly 15 hours and 30,000 pounds of actual ice cold ice to produce this. what is the purpose of the ice palace on our plaza? we'll talk to the guy behind the plan, as it snows live in midtown manhattan.
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♪ >> steve: did you see all the people who were standing around us right now trying to figure out why are those people sitting on blocks of ice? >> brian: we're not really sure. >> gretchen: welcome back to the ice palace. it's created outside of our "fox & friends" studio.
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i'm wondering how i could have my teeth chattering. >> steve: it's ice. >> gretchen: i've got this beautiful coat on by andrew mark, and i'm so warm,. >> steve: it is cold. let's take a look at it with the wide shot camera. this particular ice palace has been constructed with 30,000-tons of ice. there are 300, 100-pound blocks of ice that in the middle of the night, workmen with thick gloves put on and put this together. >> brian: we're making the most of it. we're outside. i don't know how -- the eskimos have a good idea building igloos. >> steve: this is a new theme for a restaurant called water, fire and ice. we got a little flame here, kind of a la the olympics. we need marshmallows. does anybody have some? chris wallace, do you have any marshmallows in washington, d.c.? >> we always have marshmallows in washington.
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is that as uncomfortable as it looks? >> steve: yeah. >> gretchen: yes. there is something about ice, chris, it's not soft. >> steve: we're sitting on fur. this is fantastic! >> well, there seems to be a split verdict there. >> gretchen: yes. >> brian: good observation. >> steve: i got the marshmallows. >> gretchen: while steve roasts his marshmallows -- >> steve: they're a little small. can we get a stick? anybody got a stick. >> you're really going to do that with your hands? >> steve: upon further review -- we're looking for a stick. no, no! not plastic! it's bad for the environment. >> gretchen: i don't know what exactly they're doing. chris, could i talk a little politics with you? >> it smells like a boy scout campout now. >> gretchen: chris wallace, can we talk politics? chris, can you hear us? >> i can hear you. i'm watching this and i'm
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thinking, well, i'm thinking what all of your viewers are thinking. >> steve: which is? >> what a bunch of dopes. >> gretchen: could i please, i don't want to be called a dope by you. so let's talk about harry reid and -- >> this idea, gretchen, the idea for you all to sit out in the block of ice has made my producer who right now is sitting in the warmth of the control room thinking like i did, what a bunch of dopes. >> steve: thank you. >> brian: you agree with wallace in the control room? that is unbelievable! >> steve: we are their clowns. >> brian: everyone is afraid to cross wallace 'cause he's got the power. and he's got the experience and he's got his hair parted. >> gretchen: okay. because i really don't want to go out on a friday as a dope, i'm going to talk about tax cuts with you, chris. harry reid says that he only wants them for the middle class. let's listen.
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>> as you know, my friend senator mcconnell has offered legislation to examples tend them all costing $4 trillion. he wants a vote on that, i'll be happy to arrange that. but he should also help arrange a vote on 250, period. >> gretchen: all right. then you had mitch mcconnell who responded to that and said this vote structured for symbolic reasons in december won't prevent a tax hike in january. while some in congress have a strange desire to raise taxes on hundreds of thousands of small businesses across the country, republicans and a growing course of democrats believe that no one should have the government take even more out of their paycheck next year. where do you see this all going? is there actually going to be a vote? >> well, it's interesting, gretchen, because it seemed to me about a week ago, it was obvious that there was going to be a vote and what the vote was going to be, which was a temporary extension of all the tax cuts for a couple, two, three, four years. because
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exactly as mitch mcconnell says, if you do nothing, everybody's taxes go up at the beginning of the year and voters aren't going to like that. they're going to be really upset by that and it's not what the democrats need at this point when they need to send a message that they got what this vote and this defeat was all about. but it seems that the democrats are so bent on having this political stunt of having the vote just on the middle class tax cuts, which they know is going to lose, but they want to send a message that this thing -- i can see where we would end up with no extension of any of the tax cuts at the beginning of the year. >> gretchen: that's what i said. >> steve: the obama administration, they're clearly trying to ride to the rescue down along our southern border. did you hear the plan to pull back national guard members? i want to say 550 of them, from the border, saying okay, show is over. go back to your home unit.
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>> actually i had not heard that, but you sort of wonder about that, too. is the show over or is the election over? the problem of the illegals coming across the border is not over. that being a little surprising and something that people are going to say, gee, why were they sent down here in the first place? >> brian: one of your key guests this weekend, governor rick perry, he'll be running the republican side, all the governors, in san diego this week. he not only doesn't say pull back the 550, he says i need more troops down there because these cartels can't even be controlled by the government of mexico. >> yeah. exactly. he's even talked about u.s. troops going into mexico. we will talk with governor perry who is new head of the republican governors association and despite all his denials, somebody who is mentioned as a possible presidential candidate. where you can see on the screen, going to be talking to hillary clinton, the secretary of state. she's going to be in lisbon where it appears now they're talking with nato about our
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involvement in afghanistan. we're not going to be there for six more months. we'll be there for four more years, a very controversial stance. and then, 'cause i know you guys like cake, our power player of the week is the ace of cakes from the food network. i went up there this week and i got some cake that is being sent to all of you people. >> brian: thank you very much. so we can have our cake and eat it, too. >> steve: let them eat cake, chris wallace says. >> brian: i'm gog watch fox news sunday, whether you like it or not. >> steve: he's paid by the hour. >> enjoy sitting on the ice. i just have one word to say, shrinkage. >> brian: i don't know what that means. >> steve: he's talking about the marshmallows. >> gretchen: all right. why don't you kick off the headlines. >> brian: we got a developing story, a computer hacker accused of stealing thousands, yes, hundreds of thousands of american credit card numbers now in custody. his name, lynn mun, too.
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he was busted in a secret service sting. the arrest made public until now. he's charged with hacking into the computer system at the federal reserve bank in cleveland, gaining access to credit card numbers and other sensitive data, including national security information. >> gretchen: a group of teens wanted to dance but they created a terror scare instead. a dance troop from florida were driving to a tv talent show when they got stuck in stand still traffic. so did they do? they ditched their car, they ran through the tunnel wearing camouflage uniforms, getting the attention of the joint terrorism task force. armed police surrounded the group with guns drawn. by the time everything was cleared up, the tv producers told them it was too late for the show. >> brian: it's only been in theaters for eight hours and harry potter and the deathly hollows is already expected to break records. box office watchers predict it will make $120 million this
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weekend alone. the most of any potter film yet. it's the second to last eight part franchise. bigger than the rockies. >> steve: let's take a look at the weather from the rockies, to the east and west as well. time for a quick look at your fox weather. precipitation out west. looks like snow in portions of the u.p., upper peninsula michigan. otherwise the balance of the country is nice and dry on this friday. although particularly chilly here in new york city, if you're sitting on an ice couch. that's a quick look at your fox travel cast. >> gretchen: coming up, terrorists ghailani getting convicted of one out of 285 charges. the white house says it was a success. but how do families of the 9-11 victims feel? we're going to ask them next. >> steve: 30,000 pounds of ice turned into a massive palace right here on our plaza. coming up, we'll be joined by the guy who made it all happen.
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>> brian: let's see what's happening this weekend. >> i want an explanation of how this all happened. they have a wool coat over there. coming up on the show this weekend, more backlash over those airport patdowns. we're going to talk to one of the heads of security for one of the safest airlines in the world. can you imagine getting a patdown with cold hands? thank you, brian. sweet of you, brian. >> steve will bring us that stinking marshmallow. also, parents, everything you've been told about treating your kids' ear infection may be wrong. our medical a team is here to explain. >> also, miss america is here. we'll put her out here in a wool coat on some blocks of ice. coming up on "fox & friends" weekend, 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. be there.
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new york civilian court decided to acquit ghailani on over 200 charges and that reignited the debate over where to try suspected 9-11 mastermind, khalid shake mohammed and others. what the obama administration hems and huhs, will the families of the victims ever see justice in their lifetime? joining us right now is someone who thinks about that every day, jim richard, retired deputy chf who lost his son at the age of 29 on 9-11. jim, there is your son and, of course, that is fresh in your mind as that day is for most of
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us who are here. jim, what are your thoughts as this came down? >> that you chose an incredible risk of going through a civilian trial. he was only convicted one of 285 counts. we were promised swift and certain justice by obama. >> brian: directly. >> directly. i was at the meeting in 2009. we've waited for an election. he pushed it back. my son's murderer lives and breathes every day. 3,000 americans were murdered that day. it's an outrage. somebody has to make a decision. they dropped the ball on this and this ghailani was a mass murderer and he should have been convicted. >> brian: hearing this happen in africa and another country, if something like americans were killed in another country, we would expect justice to come there. what message does that send to the families of those victims? >> it send has horrible message. here is a guy who was caught buying refrigeration trucks, buying the tanks used. they used his cell phone, he had electronic devices in his apartment. i mean, he had all the evidence, they had the guy who sold him the bombs, but they couldn't use
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them because they got his name out of torture evidence. i mean, they completely dropped the ball on this. holder was responsible for bringing this to civilian trial and this guy will repeal it, he could possibly get off and kill more innocent victims. >> brian: going back to 9-11 case, 'cause this has been on hold for two years and president bush finally got it going with a military tribunal, stopped in his tracks. but he already confessed to it. do you owe it to your son to keep fighting so this guy sees justice? >> definitely. and all the families. we have all the parents now, a lot are dying off. they haven't seen any justice. these people murdered our loved ones. i saw them in guantanamo bay. i went to the courtroom. they stood up and said they did it, they were proud they did it. they killed our loved ones and they were proud they did it. they were admitting their guilt. i don't know why the trial didn't end then and they could be sentenced. >> brian: isn't it some people say it's sweet justice they come back to new york and they are convicted using our justice system, do you feel that way? >> i'd like to see them tried. right now i'm worried about the civilian trials because of the
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risk -- >> brian: one juror could turn the whole thing around. >> they didn't have the proper evidence. i think it should go where they're going to be convicted. it looks like the military courtroom is where the best case will be. >> brian: i hate to say this, but jim, what if it doesn't happen? what if you don't get justice? >> you don't get justice, we'll be outraged. the families won't give up and we'll continue to fight for our children. our children can't speak for themselves and we'll never forget 9-11. >> brian: you're a bold guy by nature. are you saying that eric holder, from what you've seen, should be fired? >> i'm not saying he should be fired. i'm saying he ought to realize the mistakes he made right now and don't make them again with the 9-11 trial. he's made big mistakes with this trial. he's got one conviction for conspiracy, which might be overturned. this guy could be set loose again to kill. sit down, keep america safe and if you can't do the job, step aside and let somebody else do the job. >> brian: i hate to tell you, but they're not looking at this as a setback 'cause he'll get 25 years or more. >> he'll be out in ten. >> brian: i'm sorry for the loss of your son.
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>> thank you. >> brian: we forge straight ahead. when we come back, a 30,000-pound ice palace right here on the plaza. it's not melting. we'll be joined live by the man who made it happen and why it's all for a great cause. how you can win the coats we've been wearing all morning long. let's check in with martha mccal lull who always wants my stuff. she'll tell us what's on her show at the top of the hour. >> i think there is another jacket from you in my future. good morning, everybody. one airport says forget tsa. let us hire our own security. we can do it better. can they do that? the latest in this touchy debate. rick santorum joins us on that one. congresswoman harmon says she's pleased with the ghailani verdict and tells us what should be next for khalid shaikh mohammed, and joe biden on whether sarah palin could beat his boss coming up when bill and i join you at the top of the hour.
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>> steve: "fox & friends" and it's frigid. he is an award winning entrepreneur and has achieved enormous success, all while having a blast creating new ways to make customers happy. and in his first book, he shares his business secrets. we're back with steven, the founder of rain forest cafe and the author of a new book, "it's a jungle in there." good morning. >> thank you for having me. >> brian: as i said earlier, i think it's one of the most important lessons you can learn, how to be an entrepreneur. you broke it down five different ways. >> people, personality, persistence, product, and the most important, philanthropy. >> steve: isn't that an f? >> no. it's one of the most important ones. we give all of our proceeds to smile network international, which is a grassroots organization from minnesota. we fix cleft pallates for
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underprivileged children and young adults. >> gretchen: you traveled to see this happen, that's how you know it works. >> i sure have. i held those babies and once you hold one and you see a deformed face and for $500 you know you can fix a face forever and you see their parents afterwards and you see the tears coming down their face and you see they have a personality and that they enroll in school and they become friends with everybody, and they smile, and they look at themselves in the mirror and they have passion and they have pride and self confidence, it changes the world. >> steve: that's why you do that. >> that's exactly right. >> steve: in the book, talking about the rain forest cafe, you talk about how before it became the huge hit that it is, you actually built a rain forest cafe in your house to make sure it was a good idea. >> i sure did. gretchen's home of minnesota, as a matter of fact. >> gretchen: you did. and it was a marketing tool because you wanted people to come and see it so they'd believe in it. >> we had a gentleman that came 27 times that finally invested.
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then it was bought in 2000 by landry's restaurants and they've done a fantastic job since then operating them. >> brian: you also say in your five tips, personality. you might have a great idea, you might have great execution, but you got to get people to like you fundamentally, still that matters. >> it's a people business. it's very, very important. you have to stand out. you need to make yourself seen and you need to be passionate about what you're doing. if you're not, you really can't do much. >> gretchen: passion, another of the words, that's your sixth one. passion. where can folks find out about this new restaurant that has ice all over it? >> they can go to it's a jungle in there book.com. they'll learn all about the book and they can call. they'll find out all about it. >> steve: stand by. hey, turn the snow machines back on, would you? we're going to come back in a couple of minutes and you will find out how you can win $1,000 from andrew mark.
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ladies and gentlemen, round of applause, it's snowing in midtown! [ cheering ]
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