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mills and now tilt at tweeters. >> paul: i don't think that's going to succeed much the that's it for this edition of the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot and thanks to my panel. i hope to see you here next week. week. >> . >> uma: on fox news watch. >> if you touch my junk many' going to have you arrested. >> a pass injury resists the tsa's groin check on the way to his plane and the video goes viral and so did coverage of the controversy. when it comes to full body scans and extreme patdowns, is the press looking at all the angles? ted koppel claims real news is dead. taking shots at cable news and its success. does he have a point or are these the words of a grizzled news man trying to relive his
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own golden age of journalist. >> she's trying to show it nobody is going to do it for you. do it yourselves guys. >> jon: sarah palin's success when her big alaska show shines in the ratings. what are critics saying now. and the world's media prepare for another royal wedding. and the u.k. prepares for a windfall. on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor, judy miller. conservative columnist andreata jim pinkerton. >> jon: i'm jon scott. fox news watch is on right now. >> so what do we do a check, hand on either side. slowly go up
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e. >> uma:-- >> an iphone taking exception giving the upgraded full palm, up the groin full body patdown, the don't touch my junk, going viral and less than positive reaction to the new homeland security efforts, but the tsa is sticking to its extreme patdown policies. >> the question is do i understand the sensitivities of people, yes. if you're asking am i going to change the policies, no, because i, i think that's what being informed by the latest intelligence, the latest efforts by terrorists to kill our people in the air, no i'm not going to change this policy. >> jon: how is this playing in the press? andrea, it seems like this is one of the rare circumstances where the media outrage reflects the civilian outrage. >> no, that's absolutely true.
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i think the coverage has been spot on and interesting to see liberals and conservatives like the a.c.l.u. agreeing on something. the a.c.l.u. took issue with an op-ed by janet napolitano in usa today and these procedures despite what she says don't work. it's one of the rare instances where people are all outraged at once. >> jon: judy. >> i'm not so sure about that. >> l.a. times. >> well, also beyond that of the cbs poll done shows that 80% of americans support these measures because you know, on balance i'd rather not been blown up in an airplane which is what most people think. >> they all support them until they're 30 minutes from flight time and still standing there in the security line, right. >> exactly, let's flashback to the last time we had the privacy infringed on when claimed that gosh bush went in to read your e-mails and that was a safety procedure. people went crazy about that. and i have a hard time believing that people will say, sure, touch my junk.
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>> at the same time the same people saying it was fine for george bush to have warrantless wire tapping, i'd much rather go through a screening than have my conversations listened to without a warrant. there's a little bit of a double standards, i'm completely with judy, they're not doing this for fun, they want to because they don't want people to be blown up in the air, i feel it's missing that point and feel sorry for the tsa people. it's kind of humiliating to them, i think, to have to perform these, who would like that to be your job, having to you know, be roughing somebody's groin. >> two points, one, who made this story into something big and pushing this for months, calling janet napolitano big siss and anybody who doubts his power in in current environment has a lesson in that. second of all, what is crippling the intelligence is d.c., the unwillingness to confront the fact that nobody
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is worry about you, jon, getting on an airport. they're worried about people who fit the profile and in the requirement on this website, fox news, made that point. look, let's skip all of this idiotic junk touching and go to who is actually going to blow up the planes or study the cargo more carefully, the toner cartridges, not the babies. >> jon: should the media take another look at media profiling. isn't it how the israelis are doing, screening people pouring their flights? >> actually the israelis don't profile according to race or ethnicity, they know that the bombers are smart enough to use someone, a blond beautiful woman like kirsten or a beautiful brunette like andrea. they put bombs in body cavities of their brothers, and you can't profile, do what the israelis do, they profile by pattern behavior and they look at passports and they look at the person and we haven't seen a lot of in the
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media about that kind of profiling, which is smart. >> or that muslims are saying that they're going to opt out. if you're going to bomb. are you going to put on a burqa now. that coverage has gone largely unnoticed. >> to go to kirsten's point, i think i have it right, are the media everycothing ulwhd what would happen if the tsa would wave everybody through that didn't want their bra examined. >> they're touching our junk because the underwear bomber at christmas time nearly killed a thousand of people in detroit. i kind of agree with the administrator there. the options are no screening and this kind of screening. that's not adequate. there's another option, forget racial profiling there's a question of looking somebody in the eye and according to metrics, whether they're a threat to security or not. >> jon: and i spoke to a former el-al employee who said america has become dependent
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on the explosives sniffer and others out there. >> and what has been working and hasn't been working. i think all of us go to the airport and wonder, is this making any difference me taking my shoes off and even when i was travelling nationally in the middle east they don't ask you to take your computer out of your bag. they're serious about things over there. do we need to be doing that. all the things we're doing are necessary? and there are better actually screeners. these machines are not the best machines out there. >> here is a look at what voters or viewers seem to think. fox news took a poll of americans that suggests that nationally, and these scanning machines are rolled out to airports, 65% of those surveyed think they should be used to screen all airline passengers. i guess people like the concept. they just don't like the practice. >> exactly, i find that interesting. part of the reason the story has had legs is that the airline pilots themselves have opinion objecting to this.
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and the unions don't like it. so, you have an unusual combination, you know, the a.c.l.u. and my colleagues have said, of people who don't like it. but when you look at the majority, the majority of americans are for it. >> all right, time for a break, but if you come across a story that you think shows media bias, e-mails us at news watch@foxnews.com. up next, the journalists of the past takes a shot at the news of now. . >> a veteran network news man takes a shot at cable news. what's behind his attack? plus... sarah palin's alaska. what do the liberal naysayers have to say now? answers next on news watch. tu, we get double mi on every purchase. echo! so we earned a trip thgrand canyon twice as fast. uhoh. we get double miles evy time we use our card. i'ltake these. no matter what we're buying. plus the damas. and since double miles add up quick, we can bring the whole gang. it's hard to beat double miles.
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>> veteran news man ted koppel took a shot at cable news in a washington posted op-ed piece writing the commercial success of both fox news and msnbc is a source of nonpartisan sadness for me, while i can appreciate the financial logic of drowning television viewers in a flood of opinions designed to confirm their own biases, trend is not good for the republic. mr. koppel continued cable news is an environment that flaunts opinions as though they are fact. fox'sill owe re'reilly responde. >> this is a fact based broadcast here and the fact is
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we've invited mr. koppel on the factor more than one too many, wanted to discuss his ongoing beef, but mr. koppel is not up for the challenge or so it seems. so there is no question that the fox news channel has clipped some of the news agencies as far as influences is concerned and i believe that's what's bothering mr. koppel so as to be wrong. . >> jon: bill o'reilly on monday night. and one of the things, he said cbs, abc, nbc used to be able to lose money and the entertainment divisions made. >> i think the slate took him on and the absurd notion that money has never been important to net broadcast networks. of course, what we're engaged in in the good old days is artful accounting. of course news was supposed to make money and it did and ted koppel was one of the people who pioneered. and most everybody remembers
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america held hostage night after night after night, the iranian hostage crisis, holding of diplomates. created, made it an international incident worse one could argue. >> jon: if nobody watched that show wouldn't have left. >> exactly. >> jon: and wrote i know of no more sorry a spectacle the wisened news man with the age of journalism and coincides with his own glory days. >> like you go to the beach and say you should have been here last summer, the waves were bigger. my grandparent were like that and i guess koppel is in that category, too. >> jon: senator jaye rockefeller this week, andrea, said he feels political discourse in america has run amok because of opinionated
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programming on fox and others. >> side of me wants to say to fox and to msnb out, off, end, goodbye. be a big favor to political discourse our ability to do our work here in congress and to the american people to be able to talk with each other and have some faith in their government and more importantly in their future. >> jon: of course, this is the same senator who once championed a bill that would have let president obama have unrestricted control over the internet in times of national emergency. >> that's right. mr. rockefeller doesn't want anybody reporting on the government's work. i mean, that's the problem now days in washington. but he gets it wrong because that's unconstitutional. i mean, also, it's not the fcc's job to regulate cable news, so, either senator rockefeller didn't know that or he did and so he's calling for a broad overreach of power by the fcc, clearly doesn't have the facts. >> jon: and equal opportunity
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move msnbc suspended another one of the news anchors, they suspended keith olbermann for having made political contributions this time the conservative guy, morning joe, joe scarboro, the former congressman has been suspended for a couple of days from making contributions for political campaigns. is this fair or they're getting a little silly? >> it's silly. it was silly when they did it with olbermann. they're trying to put forth the idea that olbermann is an objective journalist which is laughable and can't imagine that even olbermann thinks of himself that way and he's clearly a partisan. he's a liberal. he has an agenda. that's why people watch his show. >> the rule are the rules. >> he's just like this inside the company, keith olbermann, i'm sure that olbermann said being look it, you did it to me, you have to do it to him. if you don't i'll blow up this
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network. >> and joel scarboro asked for permission for contributions supposedly made by his wife. thats with a the first version of this and now seems to be another version which is why, let's do our reporting. >> time for another break. up next, sarah palin shows off the home state of alaska with overwhelming reaction. . >> they've got nature. human kind can learn from. >> sarah palin's debut scores big leaving the liberal critics with nothing to say. and competition from the next big story causes the rights to get them. just who is paying? that's next on news watch. eveo swing ov those rocks... took some foolish risks as a teenager. but i was still taking a foolish risk with my cholesterol. a anyone with high cholesterol may be at increased risk of heart attack. diet and exercise weren't enough for me. i stopped kidding myself. i've been eating healthier, exercising more... and now i'm also taking lipitor. if you've been kidding yourself about high cholesterol...stop.
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>> after making it to the top, holding on tight. >> the perception way that i
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had, we were on top of the world. i couldn't imagine going any higher. okay, this is amazing. and, it's in our back yard. >> sarah palin's alaska debuted on t.l.c. with record breaking ratings for that network. the show featuring the former alaska governor as their family as they explored their home state scored nearly 5 million viewers. t.l.c. says it's the largest debut in the channel history and the media critics were ready to pounce on her for putting that show together. kirsten powers, you're from alaska, how about kirsten powers alaska. >> i don't think anybody would watch it. >> jon: i would. >> or jim and judy. >> jon: she's a draw. >> i think she's a draw because she has a unique experience, working other with a happy marriage and all of these kids and sort of has it all and people like looking
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inside of that and seeing, you know, what's that like, really. >> jon: well, and all kinds of critics were ready to pounce and in fact we said on the show last week, there were unsubstantiated reports she was getting a million dollars or asked for a million dollars an episode to do that show and i guess that turns out not to be the case. >> apparently she has denied that she's gotten a million dollars an episode. and the figure now floating around is $250,000 in the media, but nobody really knows, that's the point and she doesn't have to say because she's not in office anymore. >> jon: and what's wrong with making money in america. >> i think golfers measure themselves on how much money they make. look, he think that the snobbery in the coverage of her show, which is a hit among real people, is so thick you can cut it with a knife. i just-- it boggled me that critics would turn themselves into a stereo type and do exactly what you expect to do which is pound away at her for being a republican. >> forget the critics, the ratings speak for themselves.
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she brings eyeballs and tsc's highest rated show and kirsten's point, editorialized in women's magazines over and over, can women have it all. this is a woman who has seemingly done it and i think it frustrates a lot of people and she's a powerful prand and doesn't have to answer any questions about money unless she does. >> i was surprised on your take earlier when we were talking. you and sarah palin are polar opposites as you can be being from the same state. you have a lot of nice things to say about her as a woman and sort of icon. >> i say this and actually when i met her, we don't see eye to eye on politics, but i really-- i like what she does. i like the fact that she isn't shrinking, like a shrinking violent, wringing her hands over what people think. she goes out. she has confidence and another reason the show is popular, frankly, because you really don't know what she's going to say, she's not going to kowtow
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to the sacred cows and things like that, she's going to say what she thinks. >> even cows in her own party. >> jon: and doing battle with plenty of republicans. >> right. >> which i think is unusual. if you were to compare her to look at hillary clinton, who i am a big fan of. she really did a lot of hand wringing about of she ran for president and should i be feminine, not be feminine, act this way or should i be a hawk, not be a hawk. a lot of game playing you see and sarah palin doesn't do. >> she really is herself and it works, it really works. >> and even poor bristol can't escape the media glare, everybody all of the con sprsy theories out there that say she is succeeding on "dancing with the stars" because of what, tea party support. >> well, that is the latest explanation for bristol's success, but i think i'm with kirsten on this, if you criticize her, that's one thing. but leave the family out of it. and even though she does use the family as you know, well,
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her family though even this week, the youngest daughter was under scrutiny for making homophobic posts online and they're just watching her family so acutely that they have no room for any kind of error. >> i can remember on the show years and years ago in the green room, david brenner the comedian said to me the way people feel about television now i think it's all fake and that's where reality shows came from because people assume all the stuff they see is fake and there's show business in what they're doing on t.l.c., but it's more real, bristol palin and piper and all of those, people appreciate it. >> jon: it's sure pretty pictures. resuscitating the nation's economy with a question. >> we're very, very happy. >> big news about a big royal wedding and big media plans it cover it. cover it. that's next on news watch. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. ♪
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we're looking forward to spending the rest of our life together. see what the future holds. >> jon: prince william and kate middleton, announcement making business big news. in the times, the new romantic. daily mail says we got there in the end darling. with mommy's ring i theeredwed and the news also getting big attention here, thank yous from the british press because they are expecting that journalists are going to flood in there for the wedding whenever it takes place. and they will. absolutely they will, now we will be able to read tina brounl who the most fantastic edition on what she called theite year reel in of the prince by a
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determined woman and his smiling hostility toward the press. going to be greater to read and watch. >> i thank you. the media research center did a study, look, the same day all this is happening, rangel stuff is heating up and the network spent 121 minutes talking about the wedding and four minutes talking about rangel, media bias. >> charlie rangel who has been convicted of ethics charges. >> i know this is going to cost the british a lot of money but this is a two person stimulus package. >> feel a little sorry for kate. what is he is getting in to, does she know? >> she seems to aggressively want it. eight years, she is 28. she is not diana when the media stor