with the president, velma hart didn't sugarcoat her frustration. >> i'm exhausted. >> well, velmahart joining millions of other americans in the unemployment line. we'll tell you why and how and what she did now because "fox & friends" starts right now. >> fox news alert right now, south korean island is on fire after north korea fires dozens of artillery rounds overnight. >> the south returned fire and reports one of their marines was killed. >> all right. joining us live from washington, d.c., scrambled early for the latest kelly wright. kelly, what have you learned? >> good morning, guys, here's what we're learning so far. the white house strongly condemning the attack and is calling on north korea to stop its beligerent action and abide by the terms of the armistice

agreement it has with south korea. the white house press secretary robert gibbs issuing the following statement this morning stating the united states is firmly committed to the defense of our -- of our ally, the republic of korea and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability. for its part, north korea is blaming south korea for the skirmish, that according to reuters which reports north korea says the south fired the first shot but the white house states very clearly that north korea conducted an artillery attack against the south korean island, the attack prompted south korea to return fire. and scramble fighter jets. two people, we're understanding how on the island are reportedly dead. we know it's confirmed that one soldier is dead there. as a result of the artillery barrage, the conflict comes amid tension over north korea's claim it has a new uranium enrichment facility. you'll recall a month ago, the north korean leader named his youngest son as his successor.

u.s. military meantime is keeping a close eye on the situation while the white house remains in close contact with he south korea. >> thanks very much. and of course, this just raises one more thing for the president to have to deal with today and deal with it quickly. what is the heck is north korea doing? what are they doing? are they trying to incite a major world war at this point and who is helping north korea because many analysts say there's no way they could be building this centrifuge facility on their own. >> i was going to say, gretch just touched on this centrifuge facility. there's a guy from sanford university, fella by the name of siegfried heckler, he actually eyeballed it with his own two eyes. i don't think these are the images but they're a lot like this. 1,000 centrifuges mining really good stuff so they can use it for atomic material. and the big question is who

helped -- where they get the stuff. where do they get it? >> what they're saying is the only people that could theech them how to spin the centrifuges the way they are considering the country has trouble making bread is china. it doesn't necessarily mean it's the chinese government that did it, it could be a private firm. it could be individual scientists helping them out but they believe the people have assembled the centrifuges are from their neighbor to the north who basically feeds them. so what does that mean if a private firm, the chinese private firm helped? what does it mean if an individual helps? regardless, they have the facility and they want everyone to see it now because they want to use it as leverage. do we start rewarding that behavior once again? >> it spells a big huge problem today for the white house. we'll keep you posted on this story. rest of the headlines ash a tuesday. start with an extreme weather alert. several tornadoes ripped through the area in wisconsin.

this is new video you're seeing right here. the storms caused significant damage ripping roofs off homes, tearing trees from the ground and tossing a couple of cars. the storm flipped over a school bus. driver and several students minor injuries. republicans gain another seat in the house. democrat congressman solomon ortiz conceded the race for the south texas seat he held for nearly 30 years after a manual recount, the republican is declared the winner. g.o.p. now has 62 seats with four races still undecided. david axelrod's departure from the white house happening sooner than expected now. the senior advisor leaving right after president obama's state of the union address. that will be in late january or early february. axelrod taking some time off before helping the president in his re-election bid. the president's 2008 campaign manager will take axelrod's place. charlie sheen is suing the escort who was with him the night of his reported rampage in a ritzy new york city hotel

room. she now claiming that capri anderson tried to extort a million bucks from him and stole his $165,000 watch. anderson, on the other hand, claiming sheen was violent and verbally abusive with her and she just filed a complaint with the new york police department. and those are your headlines. that could be a nasty he said, she said. >> as we switch out to the other major story that's affecting you most especially with so many people about to travel, expect relatives to come visit them or friends, people are talking about, well, are they really going over the top and investigate people who maybe have knee replacement or some type of prosthesis? well, it turns out there is some intelligence according to abc, the viewers have picked up the terrorists have been discussing use of prosthetics or medical devices to look at that. >> we talked to john pistole, the tsa administrator, he told

you there was new intelligence. >> that could be why they asked the screeners asked someone to remove a prosthetic breast. she was a cancer survivor. it's not brand new intel but it's out there and one they're using justify these very invasive patdowns. it's interesting, there's a gay w -- guy who is a security expert, the guy who came up with the phrase security theater and talks about the area around, you know, the check-in at the airport where you see that kind of stuff going on, that's the security theater. he says that this new scanning device, the full body naked scanner, won't catch anybody and what he points to is the underwear bomber from last christmas and he has spoken to some of the people behind the scanner and they said would this particular machine have caught that guy? and they say absolutely not. >> well, that's a scary analysis. at the same time -- >> no kidding!

>> lawmakers are seeking the probe now that they're going to seek. they started hearings, i believe, about the patdown training after reported misbehavior and we had two people on our show just yesterday, remember the gentleman who had a urine bag and he went through a humiliating experience with that. well, now, yesterday, they actually did like a patdown procedure in front of members of congress and they were trying to prove, look, it's really not that invasive and as it turns out, members of congress watching this procedure, many of them couldn't look at it because they felt embarrassed to watch the woman on woman and the man on man. >> yeah, in the patdown. olympia snowe wrote this letter and said i need -- i never know what's happening down there. she says olympia snowe wrote this memo and said she wants a response by december 13th and says this, these new searches are a novel procedure both for the traveling public and your front office line, tsa officers and i'm not convinced the transportation officers, security officers have received

adequate training in what is clearly an invasive procedure. she also wants to know, can you give me some options besides the patdown which is extensive and jason chavitz, a congressman out of utah wrote a letter to president obama and he says could you tell me about this training? why these men and women are doing it like this, maybe the training is all wrong. it wasn't extensive enough. maybe they're ad-libbing a lot of it. >> also, the letter went on to talk about how -- and i'm sure you've seen the pictures of the little 8-year-old kid who is not wearing a shirt in the patdown screening area. and he wanted to know exactly why the fella who took that you tube video, why the guy who took it with his black berry, then the tsa guy came over and said you have to delete that. i'm not going to delete that. what they did is they followed him to the gate and sat next to him and talked on walkie-talkies the whole time. he felt that was intimidation

and not appropriate. why would you intimidate this guy? >> the father of that little boy, apparently there's a report out this morning, he moved the shirt of the little boy and not the tsa. >> i heard the kid didn't want to be touched. >> he was very shy. >> what kid does? >> his dad was, you know, he kept setting off the thing and the guy was, you know, i'm going to have to touch him so the guy says this is crazy and he took off the hoodie just to show, look, he doesn't have a bomb on. >> yesterday, we talked about would there be any exceptions to the patdown? for example, muslim women who are wearing burkas, would they be exempted from the situation? apparently according to the tsa rules, no. if you do not comply with either the regular metal scanner and we should mention that not everyone goes through the full body scanner, folks, ok? when you go to the airport even if you have a full body scanner at your airport, you're not necessarily going through that

and i think that's been underreported. there are people that are picked to go through the body scanners and let's say if you don't want to do that, you have to do the patdown. who's exempt? children under 12 get modified patdowns now. no religious exemptions now and now pilots because they argued they went through full security, they will not have to go through these procedures. >> the other thing about the pilot is if they wanted to bring an airplane down, they could with their bare hands. it's that simple. >> that's true. all right. 10 minutes after the hour. something else that we covered over the last six weeks leading to the midterm elections when the president went out and said i got to get control of the message, i'll have some town halls and backyard meetings and one of the town halls included velma hart. she's a veteran. she's got a degree in finance and she's a mom and she's a wife and she was talking about how exhausted she was trying to defend the president and keep her head above water. let's listen to what it sounded like. >> quite frankly, i'm exhausted. i'm exhausted of defending you, defending your administration,

defending the mantle of change that i voted for and deeply disappointed with where we are right now. i have been told that i voted for a man who said he was going to change things in a meaningful way for the middle class. i'm one of those people and i'm waiting, sir. i am waiting. i don't feel it yet and i thought while it wouldn't be in great measure, i would feel it in some small measure. >> and she felt it yesterday. the report out of the "washington post" is that, apparently, she who until yesterday, was the chief financial officer for amvets, a charity based out of maryland was let go. cost cutting. down sizing. they're trying to save some money. and this is unfortunate for the white house because there's this woman who showed up at the town hall two months ago on cnbc asking tough questions and the president laughed and said, you know, trust me. it's going to work out. it's not working out for her. >> the most iranic thing is her boss said he didn't think of any connection to the town hall meeting. now it does because it's back in

the national news spotlight. and we feel very bad for miss hart who now has two kids in private school, one of them trying to get into college right now. trying to pay the bills. >> all right. 11 minutes after the hour. let's forge ahead. big show coming our way. the white house keeping a close eye on the clash between north and south korea. what should the president do? we asked the former head of the bin laden unit next. >> developers behind the controversial ground zero mosque applying for federal grants from a special september 11th fund. is that the best way to spend the money to rebuild the neighborhood behind ground zero? >> sarah palin's daughter the target of death threats now because of her waltz and two step. latest attack on the dancing finalist. it's getting crazy, folks. ugh, my sinuses... the congestion...

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>> welcome back. as we continue to follow the latest developments in the deadly clash between north and south korea, there are much larger implications now for the world and for the united states. joining us now is the former head of the c.i.a.'s bin laden unit michael scheuer. what message did north korea send and what message can we send back as the chief ally to south korea this morning after they sent fire into that island last night? >> i think the message they sent was they don't believe

we're going to defend the south koreans by any great extent. the message we should have sent when they sank that north korean boat or south korean boat several months ago was we should have destroyed as much of north korean navy as we could immediately. i also suspect that we should have destroyed -- had been ready to hit them again this morning because now the media and the politicians will talk their way out of defending south korea and let the north koreans get away with another act of war. >> so michael, the heck with what china thinks. just go take them out because we are assigned -- we are an assigned defender of south korea? >> i think that's right. we need to act as what we are. we are a super power and we have interests of our own and the north koreans can do without a navy for a while. they can rebuild it. instead of spending money on nuclear stuff, they can build new boats. >> let their people starve. let's focus on al-qaida. something happened since you left the agency. they have formed a magazine and have honed their message.

they have an on-line magazine talking about october's failed cargo bomb and talking about it costing just $4,200. almost a takeoff on the visa commercial and they're just taunting us with how much it's going to cost us as we bone up security to respond. it's called essentially death by a million cuts focus on our economy. >> our economy has been their target all along. the magazine that they published is now edited by americans, american muslim citizens so it's very much in the vernacular. the reality is, brian, we're going to spend ourselves into the grave. we probably have spent $20 to $30 million in response to this in the underpants bomber and we have no more security than we had before. we've had this discussion before. if we don't go and kill the enemy with much greater force, we're going to end up spending ourselves into the grave and also restricting civil libertys

to the point we won't recognize what america is. >> michael, what i don't understand is we have a plan if any of these attacks come off of of hitting the yemens of the world if these attacks come off. what are we waiting for? they're trying to pull them off. are we waiting for them to be successful? >> i think that's what they're waiting for. that's the only thing i can take away from that. we have the capability to do enormous damage to these folks. there's more of them now so there's more targets and yet, the president just has decided not to do it. >> let's just take a look at the cargo -- would be cargo bomb attack and how we responded. look at what it costs them. toner cartridges filled with petn, two nokia mobile cell phones. two hewlett-packard printers, $300. total cost of attack $12,200. whether it came off or not, we altered what we're doing and certainly it's reflected in the political dialogue in this ku t

country. >> absolutely, sir. it's alienated many americans even further and the reality is that terrorism is cheap for the enemy. it's very inexpensive to do it and it's very easy to do it. >> right. >> and we really have to think this thing through before we keep imposing on our own citizens onerous activities. >> michael, if you don't mind, i'm going to start on your paperwork. i want you back in the agency, if possible. >> thank you so much for joining us and good luck with -- i look forward to your new book when it comes out. that is michael scheuer. now straight ahead, the developers of the mosque insists the project is not at ground zero but now, they're asking for millions of dollars meant to rebuild ground zero. will they get their grant? and it takes more deer hunters days to land a trophy buck but this teenage girl beats the boys in one hour. she'll join us next. join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at,

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>> quick headlines for you on this thursday. president obama and vice president joe biden will tour a chrysler plant in indiana today. it's a bid for the white house to say the stimulus is working. this plant got about $300 million in stimulus cash and we're expected to find out today if that female jaw bone found on an aruba beach belonged to natalee holloway. medical examiners there have been comparing it to holloway's dental records. if it's a match, it would be the first concrete evidence of holloway's death since she disappeared back in 2005. gretchen? >> thank you, steve. the developers of the mosque at ground zero here in new york insists that the project is not at ground zero. but now they're asking for $5 million meant to rebuild ground zero. from the september 11th rebuilding fund. joining me now, a leading opponent of the mosque and a former new york city firefighter

and 9/11 responder tim brown. good morning to you. this came out of left field. apply for what? >> for 9/11 money. it's just so disingenuous. it took us by complete surprise. and i mean, the gall of them, it seems to me, it's like getting the middle finger put right in your face. >> wow. >> yeah. it's just -- it leaves me speechless that they have the gall to do this. >> so this money that you are allowed to apply for. this is the last round of money is supposed to help small businesses near ground zero and other people get their feet on the ground again, no pun intended. >> it's a finished product. it's not meant as seed money. it's helped to put people over the edge that have demonstrated financial feasibility that have their projects, some percentage complete. this is just to help them finish a project. what the developers of their mosque are saying is help us with some seed money and it's

not supposed to be used for that. >> right, there's a report that has proven they have $20,000 on cash on hand. >> and no previous comparable experience is a requirement of h.u.d. >> let's look at the developer's statement about why he feels they're entitled to this. it is important to note that this community center will provide hundreds of construction jobs. in addition, this community center that will include a gym, a pool, a daycare center, a pre-k, culinary institute, tech classes and ampitheater, 9/11 memorial is desperately needed in lower manhattan. how would you respond to that? >> sharif is telling us a 9/11 memorial that he's going to build is desperately needed. what's desperately needed is the 9/11 memorial itself to be completed. 10 years later. so i notice he didn't say in there anything about a mosque either. he conveniently left that out. >> very interesting. let's also look at a statement from the lower manhattan development corporation. we are now turning to the challenging but important task of sorting through the applications. there are 270 of them to

identify those that address long-standing community and cultural needs. what kind of outlore, tim, are we going to hear from an american public 70% of which already disagrees with this mosque going to ground zero if they get this money to build it. >> i believe that they are working with people in the community to -- i'm afraid the fix is in already, i should say. >> why? >> because that's what's been demonstrated before just like in the -- getting the building thrown out of the landmark's commission. that was a done deal before it happened. and i'm concerned they were trying to sneak this through and they got caught luckily. but they were trying to sneak this through and the fix is in for them to get the money. >> what kind of outrage will we see in the american public? >> tremendous, worth 70% of american now is against this mosque being built at ground zero. you'll see that number grow and you have a different congress now. this is federal money and so i would caution the lower

manhattan development commission to be very careful about this and make sure they're following the rules. do the right thing here. >> tim brown, a former new york city firefighter, a 9/11 survivor and responder who lost many friends on that day. it thanks for your thoughts. >> thank you, gretchen. >> coming up on our show, it's like something out of a spy novel, a taliban leader negotiating to end the war in afghanistan. a fake? and we gave him a lot of money so how could this happen? then in honor of thanksgiving, we're talking about some top turkeys. these ones are the top economic turkeys of the year. fox business network's charles payne is next with that. but first, happy birthday to miley cyrus, the singer and actress turns only 18 today, folks. [ female announcer ] it's the ultimate surf and turf event,

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>> fox news alert now. we are just getting word that 10 islamic activists have been arrested in europe suspected of plotting some form of terror attacks. according to prosecutors in brussels, belgium, the arrest happened in belgium. we know they've been on the hunt for a cell for at least a week because they thought an attack was imminent. >> and germany has been on high alert right in the same region there. all right, meantime, afghan officials reportedly admit they were duped by a taliban impostor. "the new york times" reports the man who claimed to be a senior member of the taliban had been in talks with afghan leaders and even got a face-to-face meeting with president hamid karzai but

it's now been determined he was a fake. the impostor had reportedly been paid a lot of money for his bogus negotiations. >> meanwhile, charlie rangel, the congressman from new york has sent out a written apology for his ethical misconduct saying he has no excuse for his violations and misuse of his congressional office. the house is expected to vote on censuring rangel after the thanksgiving break. that's the most severe congressional punishment short of kicking him out. they're not probably going to do that. >> bristol palin performed under heightened security last night at the finals of "dancing with the stars." she's in the top three. bristol and her dance partner have been getting dance threats. yesterday, they were investigating a threatening letter sent to bristol on friday containing white powder. she earned 52 points out of 60 last night and trails her rivals. the winner will be announced tonight but it's all about the audience voting, right? and i watched the first dance. i think she was exceptional with my extensive background in dance

and i watched her warm up. she looked very -- >> jennifer grey was very, very good last night. >> she was in that movie in the 1970's. >> "dirty dancing." i think she's got a head start. >> breaking news on the royal wedding. we learned the royal wedding between prince william and kate middleton will happen on april 29th of next year at westminster abbey. that's earlier than expected. i thought they were saying july and august. april 29th. >> meanwhile, thousands of americans will head to the airport today and tomorrow for the thanksgiving holiday but there's growing outrage over those patdowns like that one right there and the body scanners that show you naked and the lines could be really long. john huddy is beating the rush and live right now near a ticket counter at laguardia airport. good morning to you, john. >> good morning, guys. yeah, i can tell you here at laguardia where we're at in new york, it is already busy. perhaps a sign of things to come. there's a ticketing area over there and right behind me, i'm

going to step out of the way is actually this screening area and there has been a lot of debate about the tsa's new screening procedures. usually this time of year, most folks are concerned about getting the right turkey or whether the weather is going to play a part in their travel plans but a lot of debate continues to rage this morning about the x-ray machines, as you mentioned and the full body patdowns which critics contend are too aggressive. we're hearing some of the horror stories, i guess you could say or stories at least about people's contention about these patdowns including one man whose bladder bag actually broke and another woman who had to remove a prosthetic breast, if you can believe that. so there's been a lot of concern about those with medical problems. federal officials have maintained that folks have tried to reassure people they will not be mistreated. however, they maintain these procedures will remain in place for the holiday travel crunch. guys, back to you. >> all right. our buddy, john huddy out at

laguardia. thank you very much. by the way, we should point out the tsa guy john pistole apparently called that woman who -- that fella that is to say who we had on our program yesterday, mr. sawyer, who had the bladder bag problem and apologized. so that's a nice thing for him to do. meanwhile, take a look. if you're going over the river and throughout woods to grandmother's house today, it will be rainy from portions of the great lakes down through the ohio and tennessee valley and it's heading toward the northeast big corridor cities. so get out your slicker, folks. meanwhile, through porpgss of the northern plains, it is bitterly cold. right now in rapid city, this is the coldest temperature we've had this season. it's 8 degrees below winter. -- zero. it's 13 in minneapolis. later on today, things will warm up in the 20's in portions of the northern plains. 30's in portions of the new england states. 63 here in new york city. meanwhile, from the mid atlantic

down to portions of florida and the gulf coast, temperatures in the 70's and the 80's, 58 in kansas city today. if you're out west, today in the city of angels it will be 59 degrees. >> all right. with those hot temperatures on the east coast, that may be why people have voices like mine right now, right? >> could be. you should go to san diego where the chargers play. let's talk about the afc west, san diego chargers since gretch brought it up. actually i brought it up. we'll talk about that later, gretch. stay out of this. they're looking to climb back into the playoff contention and looking to beat up on the broncos to do it. after an early denver touchdown, all san diego. chargers scored 35 unanswered points. phillip rivers who i started over michael vick this week with the fantasy league threw up 233 yards but four scores. they hit the 500 mark and it looks like san diego is ready for their traditional december run for the playoffs. rivers hasn't lost a game in december since 2006 and the broncos are 3-7 and have not recovered since losing to the

jets. the circus that's the minnesota vikings is getting a new ringmaster, we'll have a live look of gretchen carlson. they have fired the head coach brad childress and replaced him with defensive coordinator leslie frasier. childress presided over a team that fell into disarray after losing in overtime to the new orleans saints for the right to go to the super bowl. they're 3-7 this year, numerous confrontations between childress and players including bret favre. childress also ruffled feathers by cutting randy moss after he traded for him and gave up a pick. coming up on radio a little later, sebastian young will be on talking about his new movie. mike huckabee who i've never met in person. gretchen carlson who seems nice. judith miller will be joining us. that should be fun. let's talk to another important person. >> we should mention that governor huckabee will be on our show 20 minutes from now. the government is no newcomer to spending. as thanksgiving approaches, fox business contributor charles payne reflects on how some of

the president's economic turkeys are gobbling up your money. >> listen, i could have started with the deficit. that was too easy. got to start first and foremost with the gm ipo, this is splashed across the newspapers, as a good deal. this could end up being president obama's mission accomplished moment because, of course, he was in his chevy volt talking about how great this was. in the meantime, the american taxpayer still well over $30 billion. no average investor had access to the ipo so they say it goes to $58 we break even. if it goes to $58 people who had access to the ipo, it will be up 76%. to me, it's a disaster. i hope they don't use it to suggest or justify future bailouts. >> no one is bailing out the bond holders who got screwed. >> everybody got the shaft. it was just a terrible situation. >> wall street. >> power grab. wall street and the unions. >> yeah. all right. let's talk about financial regulatory bill. >> financial regulatory reform did a couple of things. it transferred power that the

congress had and gave it to the president and his czars. absolute disaster. in the end, what it means is a lot of people, small businesses, regular people will have less access to loans to start businesses, to buy houses, by the way, there's a provision in there like if you run a small business and you write a check over $600, you have to do a 1099. i mean, these sort of -- >> i heard they're going to toss that, though. >> the president is dangling it out there. >> what genius put that in? >> most of the law is yet to put together. >> a lot of it is blank pages. >> kind of like they read the laws after they write them. >> they create them after they transfer the power and guess what? there's nothing we can do about it. >> over the summertime, we heard how this is going to be the summer of recovery. >> you remember that? >> i do. >> we got into september and they were like oopsy daisy. >> wasn't exactly beatle mania, was it? we lost over 250,000 jobs during the course of the summer. foreclosures went through the roof setting records month after month. for the most part, it wasn't the summer of recovery but one of

the worst summers we've ever had in this country. they picked the wrong time to have the summer of recovery. >> let's check the asia trip, the president went over high hopes to get the south korea free trade agreement passed but ended up getting a tongue lashing from our so-called trading partners. >> can you imagine that china got the better of us when it come -- when it came to public relations in currency? i mean, the ultimate currency manipulator tells you how far you've fallen down. first leg of the trip to india, some people sit across $100 million a day. the white house said it didn't, they never told us how much it cost. here's the deal. after the shalacking from the midterm elections, what did the president say? i need to get out of d.c. more. he did. he went to india. he went to -- got nothing accomplished. we got absolutely nothing accomplished for that. that was a really bad economic mistake, i think, on his part. >> meanwhile, perhaps, the worst economic blotch on his record -- >> i think is this year the gulf oil spill without a doubt. it was used -- they saw it as an

opportunity to beat business down, to talk about the profit -- >> what about their region? >> the greed. >> this is it. you had the moratorium, 20,000 jobs lost. $5 billion in economic output lost. a billion dollars in profits lost. by the way, the state and local governments, they've lost out on $250 million in taxs and by the way, the moratorium even though it was officially pulled is the fact they're still going on. >> how many weeks have they improved so far? >> i don't think they've improved any. it was one of those things, hey, this is a great time to beat up corporate america again. >> it had democrats down in louisiana and other states who were against it. >> that's when you know, it's time to draw the line. regular folks are getting beat up pretty bad. >> you whet our appetite for "varney & company." what can we expect? >> there was a lot of range on wall street yesterday. big time insider trading scandal brewing. it's always been insider trading and we have the world series of

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>> quick check of some headlines. actor leonardo dicaprio thanking the pilots and crew of that delta flight that made the emergency landing on sunday out of j.f.k. after the engine conni conni conked out. after the safe landing, he reportedly signed autographs for passengers and the crew as well. and thanksgiving surprise on new york's staten island. dozens of wild turkeys have taken over a busy neighborhood there. fox cameras even caught one turkey playing chicken with the car. and it's some news. >> all right, as more people come forward with nightmare stories about invasive tsa patdowns, travelers are asking what are my rights? >> and what happens if you refuse a patdown?

can you be fined? well, here with the answers, fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano, the host of freedom watch. good morning to you, judge. >> good morning. >> all right, so there is a fine in place if you refuse to do either the body scanner or the patdown, right? >> there is. and the lawfulness of the fine is questionable because it wasn't enacted by congress. it was enacted by an administrative group of nameless bureaucrats who just decided we think $10,000 is good for this and $11,000 is good for that. under the constitution, only the congress can write laws that punish you. in terms of what you can do and can't do, under the present law, you have to choose. if some airports you go through the metal detector, that's it. some airports, though, will tell you, you're going through this body scanner. it's going to expose you to radiation. if you don't want to go through for any reason, you have to do the patdown. if you refuse both, we won't let you get on the plane. they can't fine you for refusing both though they have attempted to fine people who have refused both and made a big deal about

the refusal. last night on "freedom watch" we had on a guy who disrobed there as they were patting him down in order to mock them. they are attempting to fine him $11,000 for interfering with their work by taking his trousers and shirt off. >> talk about exemptions. we've heard all types of rumors that muslim women, for example, get self-pat downs and they don't have to do certain things because of their religious beliefs. what's the truth? >> john pistole was asked about exemptions, that's the former f.b.i. agent who is now the head of the tsa and said there will be no religious exemptions and there will be no exemptions at all and then they said we're going to exempt pilots. we trust them to fly the planes. we have to understand that they can go through security. we're not going to pat down children though yesterday, we -- >> under 12. >> yesterday, we ran tape of them papth dotting down a 6-yea with his shirt off. truly a traumatic experience when that's done by a person and uniform in public. yesterday, they said we're going to let john boehner through. we get it. he's not a security threat.

he will soon be the third ranking official of the federal government. but why not let brian kilmeade through or derek jeter or gretchen carlson or madonna or people that are well recognized and obviously not threats. all these people i had dinner with last night! >> i know you did. i'm dying to get that photograph with everybody's autograph on it. >> the point is when they make rules on the spot and then make exemptions to the -- exceptions to those rules on the spot, you think, let's see, they're not going to pat down john boehner because they want him on their side? are they worried that if they pat him down and he goes through what the rest of us go through, they have an opponent in the speaker of the house of representatives? you can't make rules based on politics. you can't make exemptions on the spot but none of this has been tested in court yesterday. i'm telling you what i think courts will do. >> very interesting segment. thank you very much, judge. what can we see on "freedom watch">> jerry will tell us why none of this keeps us safe. >> that will be on the fox business network and it will run until the judge runs out of steam which is an hour.

>> it would take most deer hunters takes to land a trophy buck. this teen girl landed three in less than an hour. meet her after the break. >> more supporting sarah palin, secret strategy to encourage her to run against president obama and are they underestimating her yet again? we'll report, you're going to decide and then tell us. /ñh]ñ/ççw?vñuóy[óñwlk ♪ ♪

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>> it was just a start of deer hunting season out in wisconsin but one family is already way ahead of the curve. 16-year-old carissa wiggey bagged three prize bucks in less than an hour with the help of her dad and she is joining us live today from green bay, wisconsin. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> ok. so let's go back to saturday.

this past saturday, 5:30 in the morning. you might be thinking, man, it's awfully early to go hunting. you went out to the woods with your family and friends and then what happened? >> well, around 7:00, the first buck came in, the 13 pointer. >> right. >> i brought up my smoke pole and shot him. my dad started reloading my smoke pole and the big 10 pointer came walking through. shot him. and we got down to go look at him and an eight pointer comes walking around about 30 yards from us so i shot him. >> oh, my goodness. so in less than an hour, when you say smoke pole, are you talking about your shotgun? your rifle? >> no, it's a black powder gun. >> black powder gun. ok. very good. so in less than an hour, you had bagged 31 points worth of deer, right? >> yep. >> so your dad was there because he was helping you reload your

black powder gun, was he thinking like oh, my goodness. i can't believe this is happening? >> yeah. >> i bet. how did you get to be such a good shot? >> well, we always went to twin cities gun club and my dad has been with me since i was little. >> i got a feeling that you probably impressed your father with your -- with your marksmanship, didn't you? >> yeah. >> i bet. >> so now, was there -- i have never actually bagged a buck before but if i did, i would want to mount the big head above the fireplace. would you want to mount all three of those heads? >> yeah. >> i bet. but that's going to be a costly proposition. all right. well, very good. it's a nine day season. are you done for the season? have you hit your limit, carissa? >> yep. >> i bet.

congratulations. great to hear your story. she's just 16 years old and she begged three in an hour. joining us today from green bay, thank you very much. have a terrific thanksgiving. >> you, too. >> all right. very good. very joins us before school and now she has to go back to school. all right. coming up straight ahead on this tuesday, more on our fox news alert this morning. north korea launching a deadly attack on its neighbor overnight. a live report on reaction from the white house. and joy behar showing republican mike huckabee some loving. >> he's my favorite republican. >> the governor's reaction when he joins us at the top of the hour. come on in, mike! you're next on "fox & friends." join the jaguar platinum celebration ! come celebrate exciting cars that are stunning to look at, exhilarating to drive and worry free to own. celebrate this holiday season with the gift of platinum. jaguar platinum coverage: five years or 50,000 miles

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>> good morning, everyone. tuesday, november 23, 2010. thanks for sharing your time. we start with a fox news alert. north korea has launched a deadly air assault on south

korea prompting the south to return fire now. white house condemning the attacks. so if south korea is at war, does that mean we are, too? >> of the tsa patdowns, are they turning into a shakedown? more travelers coming forward with their embarrassing stories as others refuse to follow protocol. should president obama just shut them down entirely? >> meanwhile, plus liberals for palin in 2012? that's right. the left wants sarah palin to run for president. they sound like but this smells more like a little fishy story, doesn't it? we're gonna report and you decide. explain the whole story. "fox & friends" hour two for tuesday starting right now. >> breaking news story happening overnight while you were sleeping, south korea says two of their marines are dead now after north korea fired dozens of artillery rounds into

one. the south did return fire and even scrambled fighter jets. joining us live from washington, d.c. with the latest on this breaking story is our own kelly wright. kelly, this is not a nonstory today. this is a huge issue for the white house. >> gretchen, it's huge for a lot of reasons. what the white house condemns the attack and is calling on north korea to stop its beligerent action and abide by their terms of the armistice agreement it has with south korea. having said that, white house press secretary robert gibbs went on to issue the following statement this morning stating the united states is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the republic of korea and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability. for its part, north korea is blaming south korea for the skirmish. but south korea's military claims the north conducted an artillery attack against the south korean island. the attack prompted south korea to return fire and scramble fighter jets as you stated, gretchen.

south korea says two marines have been killed and 16 others injured during this attack. south korea caused provocation and "inhumane attack on civilian areas" adding it violated a 1953 armistice halting the korean war. they are keeping a close watch on the situation. a spokesman for admiral mike mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff states the chairman has been kept fully aware of the north korean artillery attack on the south korean island. he is a close contact. he is in close contact, rather, with our commanders in the region and is keeping the secretary of defense informed. the white house, by the way, is staying in contact with south korea. back to you. >> all right. kelly wright live for us in d.c. thanks very much. now the rest of your headlines. we start with another fox news alert. we're learning that 10 suspected terrorists are under arrest in europe. federal prosecutors in belgium say the suspects were rounded up in raids in belgium, the netherlands and germany, some believe to be plotting a possible attack in belgium. others were allegedly recruiters

for a chechen group. they are reportedly of belgium, moroccan and russian descent. it led to previous arrests in spain, morocco and saudi arabia. extreme weather alert where wisconsin and illinois are waking up to serious devastation after a string of rare november tornadoes ripped through that area. this is new video from walworth, that is county. the storms caused significant damage flipping over trucks and ripping the roofs off homes and tearing trees from the ground. >> it's just amazing how many ambulances and fire trucks and police are here. >> kind of rattled and the power went off four times off and on and just the shaking noise. >> in illinois, the storm flipped over a school bus and the driver and several students suffered only minor injuries. david axelrod's departure from the white house happening sooner now than expected. fox news has confirmed that the senior advisor will leave after president obama's state of the union address. that will be late january or

early february. axelrod taking some time off before helping the president in his bed for re-election. the president 2008 campaign manager will take axelrod's place. we just learned moments ago the royal wedding between prince william and kate middleton will happen on april 29th of next year. that's 2011. it will take place at westminster abbey. the abbey can hold 2,000 guests and, of course, even more could fill the surrounding streets. those are the headlines. >> let's welcome in somebody who is not invited to the wedding. >> i'm sure i will be. >> eventually, sir. >> at some point. >> it's good to have you. gretchen was talking a little bit about what's going on between north korea and south korea. we understand the united nations security council may convene a special emergency meeting in the next day or two to figure out how to respond to the threat. what should the united states do?

if you're at 1600 pennsylvania avenue? >> we're in a real tough spot right now. we have so much debt to the chinese that we can't afford to provoke something that we can't get ourselves out of it and the question is what will the chinese do? they hold a key card in getting north korea to back down. north korea is not run by a rational leader. it's a nation of 24 million people where the average per capita income is less than $2,000. most of the people there are starving. >> why do we care more than them, governor? they blew up south korean ship about three months ago, we did nothing. we never do anything! >> what we'll do is send a very strongly worded letter. if they don't respond to that, we're going to send a really strongly worded letter and ask the united nations to help sign the letter. >> you bring up the key point, china. the chinese may be helping north korea. not specifically the government of china but middlemen, maybe private businesses, private security businesses, how do we stop that? >> the way we stop it is we quit acting as if china is our

best friend. china is not our friend. i want to be very clear. and i know this is totally against all the political correctness there is out there in the world. they are a communist nation. they still oppress people. they oppress freedom. they have engaged in a level of trade which has not been fair and not helped america in the long term. it's cost us many jobs and we are acting like idiots when we continue to allow them to run over us like that. >> they jailed their nobel peace prize winner and won't let her out or let their families speak up and receive the award. >> next thing they'll be doing tsa patdowns on their own citizens for god's sakes. >> perfect transition. you know, people are really steamed about what's going on at the airport. >> yes, they are. >> you travel a lot. you have a challenge to the president of the united states. >> today on "the huckabee report" my commentary on 600 radio stations i issued a challenge to president obama. if he thinks this is an appropriate way for us to deal with security as he has defended, then i've said ok, mr. obama, take your wife, your two

daughters and your mother-in-law to washington reagan national airport and have them publicly go through both the body scanner and the full enhanced patdown in front of others and if it's ok for your wife, your daughters and your mother-in-law, then maybe the rest of us won't feel so bad when our wives, our daughters and our mothers are being put through this humiliating and degrading totally unconstitutional intrusion of their privacy. >> that would be one way of the president feeling the pain, so to speak, of the average american citizen but many people also say should he become more involved in something? some action? >> absolutely, he should, gretchen. he's the president of the united states. and in single order, he can demand that tsa cease these really, again, and i want to say they're not just intrusive. the federal fondling is an unconstitutional search and seizure. >> absolutely. >> when you are asked to assume a position of surrender as a law abiding citizen who is neither convicted of a crime nor even suspected of a crime, you're not

allowed to have an attorney present, you're not allowed to say, you know, excuse me, i'm not going to even go through this, we have lost a level of our freedom in order to retain a level of our freedom and that ought to outrage every american whether you fly on an airplane or not. >>

night ringside at "dancing with the stars" watching her daughter do some dancing. liberals suddenly saying you know what? we kind of like sarah palin. is that their reverse

psychology, hey, if i say i like her, maybe she'll win and then obama will then kick her in 2012. >> i think they underestimate sarah palin. she's proven time and again her resilience. if they think she's an easy pushover, they ought to be just watching what's happened over the last couple of years. it seems like the most they punch her, she just bounces right back up, yeah. >> they did a mythical primary, republican primary and it says that palin got 19% of the vote, trailed by 70% of the vote and romney had 18% so she's right in the thick of things on the republican side. when you guys and you women get together and talk about contenders. >> you women? >> i'm just -- i think you're all men. thank you. do you look at her as a legitimate presidential contender? >> of course, absolutely. she has proven that she excites a lot of the people in the republican party. she has a strong following. and i think people, again, have just dismissed her out of hand without understanding who she is. >> she's confident, too. listen to her last week.

>> of course i believe that i could beat barack obama. otherwise, would why i be contemplating a run and, again, it is only contemplation at this time but i'd be in it to win it. >> all right, and also, i'm going to interview sarah palin tomorrow. it's going to air on "fox & friends." she has a new book out which is the reason she's doing just a handful of interviews. at the same time, governor huckabee has his own book out and you are on "the view" yesterday and i almost fell off of whatever curvy couch i was sitting on at the time because joy behar, one of the most outspoken liberals said this -- >> you know what? you're always a very good guest. >> thank you. >> you're welcome back. >> he's my favorite republican. >> and that's extraordinary because she doesn't like republicans. >> not generally. you know, i told her, i said thank you very much, you just killed whatever political

aspirations i might have had. joy and i have always been able to get along as i do with all the ladies from "the view". i know their point of view with the exception of, perhaps, elizabeth who is very different than mine but, you know, i'm just not wired up to be all mad at people all the time. >> what did you think about what happened when bill o'reilly went on the show last time? >> it was the biggest favor they ever could have done to him and i told him before we went on. i said please, for the love of god, would you walk off the show for me? i need it! >> boycott me. >> my book will soar to the top of the amazon charts if you walk off and say we hate christmas. >> i love the concept of your book "can't wait till christmas" so many kids, i think, did what you did. what did you do in the book? >> my sister and i used to unwrap all our christmas presents under the tree and play with our stuff while our parents were away at work and before they'd get home, we'd wrap it back up and act like we were nice angels and then one christmas when i pulled out my j.c. higgins football from sears that i was so proud to have, i forgot to wipe the mud off of it

and i got busted. so it's really a cute little story. it's nonpolitical. it's so simple. even members of congress can understand it. and it's really, though, the lesson of it is that the stuff of christmas is not as important as the trust of our families. and so i think it's a great story to read to kids and grandkids. >> governor, here's the problem, not going to tell you to sell the book but you gave away the ending. what are you thinking? >> brian, believe me, there's something in it still for you. i'll read it to you on your radio show later. >> wipe the ball down before you put it back. >> yeah. >> moment ago, we were talking about sarah palin believed she could beat obama. could you beat obama? >> i think anybody given the right circumstances could potentially do it and, you know, my own decision in all of this is not going to be one that i would make unless i thought i could. you don't run for office saying, i'd love to lose. wouldn't that be great? >> i'd love to be third. >> you're number two. >> we loved having you here. >> well, that's going to be one of the reasons it will be very difficult because i love doing what i'm doing and even showing up you with guys despite the

fact that brian is still here. >> i don't know what -- >> can't wait until the election. >> he walked off! >> good for his book. >> check it out. >> thanks, brian. >> good to see you, steve. >> straight ahead, harry reid's dream act is back on the senate docket but there's a lot about this legislation you may not know. it could be other illegals and not just students. >> and nascar living legend jimmie johnson walking away from his latest race with his fifth consecutive title and here to talk about the unprecedented accomplishment and his place in history. [ male announcer ] it's simplehysics...

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>> all right, wive been telle' telling you about the dream act. it's supposed to give children who are brought here illegal to gain a path to citizenship. joining us from washington is the president of the federation for american reform, dan stein. dan, upon further review, should we review this further? >> absolutely. we absolutely have to put this bill off, maybe consider it in the next congress. you know, this is a lame duck session. you got about 20% of the house and maybe 13 senators who are lame ducks. this is a very unpopular bill. when you take a look very closely at it, what you see is it's about an amnesty for people under the age of 30, 35 depending on the version. they were brought here before they were 16 but in the end, look, we want to provide education to people here illegally. they can go back to their home country and apply for a student

visa, an f-1 student visa and come back in. this is a bill that will come on the backs, basically of u.s. citizen kids. it rewards the parents who brought those kids and brought them here illegally essentially. now they're over 18 and the population we're talking about could be as much as two million people and because of the immigration benefits that they get, they could bring another six million or estimating 10 million people would benefit from this over the next 10 years and at the cost of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to taxpayers. >> this election -- >> and the military. if you enroll in the military there's already a provision in law that says that the dod wants to give a green card and enlist an illegal alien, they can do that. it's another back door amnesty program. >> doesn't necessarily mean you have to go to school or necessarily mean you have to join the military. >> no, you can enroll. all you do is enroll in a two-year program. enroll in the militariment if you show you're enrolled and make progress like two years towards a bachelor's degree,

don't graduate or anything. then you can adjust, you know, the permanent resident's green card status and there's all kinds of waivers, the thing is full of loopholes for fraud. we know this administration is not going to enforce these laws rigorously. this is an incredibly irresponsible piece of legislation that they're introducing and they're trying to get it in through the back door in the lame duck. >> let me go over the basics of it. slow down a second. we'll go over the basics so people understand what it is. it applies to those under 16 when they came to the u.s. so they got to be kids. must have been in the u.s. for at least five years. and you need to have a high school diploma or a ged. you agree with those principles, correct? that's the foundation. >> yeah, you can get the ged, yeah, after you apply. yeah, you have to get the ged first and then after you get the conditional status, you have to enroll in a bachelor degree program or two-year occupational program or community college or you have to enroll in the military. >> gotcha. dan stein, thank you very much. when you hear the dream act, you got to find out the hard facts.

>> absolutely. >> dan is the president of the federation of american immigration reform and he's working hard. thanks, dan. >> thank you. >> meanwhile, straight ahead, taliban leader negotiating to end the war in afghanistan. how's that going? turns out the guy is a fake. even worse, we gave him a whole lot of money. how could that happen? then, he reached an unprecedented milestone in nascar history. he's walking this way. someone don't stop him. legendary racer jimmie johnson working his way to the curvy couch. can you say five? [ male announcer ] it's a rule of nature. you don't decide when vegetables reach the peak of perfection. the vegetables do. at green giant, we pk vegetables only when they're perfect. then freeze them fast so they're are as nutritious as fresh. [ green giant ] ho ho ho. ♪ green git

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>> news by the numbers for this tuesday, first, $8 a month. that's net flix's new reduced price to watch movies and tv shows on line. company hoping to get customers off d.v.d.'s. download them at home and also raising the cost to rent the

actual discs a little bit. next 99 miles per gallon, the equivalent fuel efficiency cost of the new nissan lease if the electric car were to run on gas. finally, $250,000, that's how much one of the first ever apple computers is expected to go for sale at an auction in london later today. the apple 1 originally cost $666 back in 1976. that is cool. >> ok. 24 minutes after the hour. boston celtics, new york yankees, pittsburgh steelers and ucla bruins are the most storied franchises in sports history and now you can factor in jimmie johnson and that number 48 car to that list. he just captured his unprecedented sixth consecutive nascar title. the champ joins us in the studio right now, in fact, steve and gretchen can touch him. they asked me not to. congratulations on the win. >> thank you. >> and the season. >> the skroomz you heard there

on that tease explain why my voice is like it is. >> why were you scream sing? >> i don't have a clue. i was screaming very loud. >> that's my excuse. i was screaming for you to get number five. you are in this incredibly great company, those teams that brian mentioned, all had the five wins, too. what did it feel like to get that? >> it's amazing. i've worked my whole life to put myself in this situation and my team as well and to have it all come together and it really is a team sport and this year, we had a huge challenge from two other competitors but at the end of the year, we got the job done and i'm very proud of. >> i understand, all three of you have a shot at winning the title. correct? >> yep. >> but you start and everyone thinks there's going to be a lot of pressure on jimmie johnson to make it five. but yet, you didn't feel the pressure. why didn't you feel pressure? what was your mindset? >> there certainly was pressure and i felt a lot of it but it was a different form of pressure for me this year. i'm going to the final race of

the year in the championship contention and first time in a long time, i had nothing to lose. >> you were down 15 points, weren't you? >> i was and i knew how much pressure i had to not mess up in years past. and i assumed that pressure would work its way into denly hamelin's mind and their team's mind. maybe it did have an effect. >> word is fun. your approach was fun. >> i had so much fun. i also think because i won four championships before, i had been there and done that. i knew what to worry about. didn't worry about anything. >> you had a personality as a kid, you rode dirt bikes and sort of this thrill seeker but the first time you sat in the stock car, you were in your 20's. >> yeah. it wasn't the typical path for stock car racing. and normally think of a southern -- someone raised in the south raising stock cars on local tracks and guys like jeff gordon and tony stewart that came before me helped open doors to say look, you don't have to come in the background. you can come from a variety of different kinds of racing.

and gave me my chance. guys like kasey kahne has come along and a long list of drivers from out of the south and west coast and other forms of racing much it's neat. >> you have five titles now. two guys have seven. dale earnhardt earned seven and richard petty. he's probably watching right now. should he think you're coming after his title? >> i hope so. i didn't mean it in that respect. man -- >> you're not done. >> i'm not done. i have a lot of years left ahead of me. fortunately in my career -- in your racing, you can race into your 40's. i hope i can win two more titles. i have no clue if it's possible. >> let me ask you this. you're a new dad, too, and you have a baby girl at home. does a five car nascar champ change diapers? >> absolutely. it seems like my -- i have more of the janitor role at the house. >> you clean the erasers, too? >> burping and diaper changes. mom feeds so i get the burping and the diapers.

>> when you drive the minivan with the baby seat in the back -- >> can't drive a minivan, i'm sorry. >> what do you drive? >> suburban. >> are you driving slower? >> yes. and if it's still a still green light, i stop. hazards on and all careful and stuff. >> good job. >> not on the race track, though. >> if we're in new york, if we pull a hamstring or turn an ankle, would you fill in for us? >> can i vote on that? yes. >> might trip you guys on the way out. >> that's fine. we appreciate your loyalty to the show. even when you were coming in second, you'd still come on our show. we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. >> thank you. >> have a great thanksgiving. >> you, too. >> coming up on the show, the developers of this mosque at ground zero insist the project is not at ground zero. they want millions of federal dollars meant to rebuild ground zero. which one is it? will they get it? >> hundreds of you out there e-mailing us questions about the

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allow pilots to pass through security a lot easier than before. see, i don't think you have to pat down the pilot, right? you don't have to go have him go through the body scanner. i'm happy the pilot passes the breathalyzer. that's all i care. anything past that is fine with me. >> he's right. all right. 28 minutes before the top of the hour on this tuesday, time for some headlines. we are expecting to find out later today if the female jaw bone found on that beach in aruba is that of natalee holloway. medical examiners have been comparing it to her dental records. if it is a match, it could be the first concrete piece of evidence about her death since she disappeared in aruba in 2005. >> rescue teams are looking now for more victims this morning following a deadly stampede in cambodia. at least 370 people are dead. hundreds more are hurt. police believe the stampede started when people thought the bridge was going to collapse. people fainted and pandemonium broke out. thousands of people were on that

bridge traveling to a nearby island festival. >> afghan officials admit they were duped by a taliban impostor. "new york times" reports a man who claims to be a senior member of the taliban second to the one eyed leader had been in talks with afghan leaders and even got a face-to-face meeting with president hamid karzai. now it's been determined he was a fake. the impostor reportedly had been paid, get this, a lot of money for his bogus negotiations. >> this is going to be a rough one for cat owners. scientists from oxford university say the dog is scientifically smarter than the cat. the study says dogs are more social animals and felines and more social interaction leads to a bigger brain. that's the same thing with humans? >> i think so. hey, talk about a big brain, steve has a huge brain. look at the size of his medulla. >> brian, hurry up, your bus is here for the ride home. >> it looks like a little small. >> good. he'll be out in a couple of

minutes! >> great. get the air conditioning. >> let's take a look. you don't need it today, air conditioning wise. nice temperature. however, the bus better have some wipeers because look at this big storm all the way from portions of the great lakes states through the tennessee valley, heavy rains as well through portions of the mid-mississippi valley and down through porpgss of arkansas at this hour. current readings, it is bitterly cold in portions of the northern plains. rapid city, 6 below. 13 in minneapolis. 30 in kansas city. ahead of that front, temperatures in the 50's and 60's unless you're down south and you have some 70's. later on today, things are going to warm up across the gulf area. temperatures in the 80's. beautiful day in tampa and san antonio and dallas as well. meanwhile, 63 will be the daytime high here in the big town of new york city where they've got really loud fire trucks. and that's a quick look at the

fox travelcast. back to you. >> thank you very much. could you follow that story? follow that truck. >> indeed. >> all right. 25 minutes before the top of the hour. the developers claim the controversial mosque in downtown manhattan is not near ground zero, right? so why are they applying for a federal grant money from a special ground zero rebuilding fund? eric shawn is thinking the same thing. he is live now at the proposed mosque site with new details. eric, make this make sense. >> brian, they want your money. this is the so-called ground zero mosque behind me. we're right arnold the corner from ground zero and now they have applied for federal funds, taxpayer money, that's intended to help new york city recover from the 9/11 terrorist attacks. there is a fund from the lower manhattan development corporation intended to help revitalize lower manhattan. 265 groups have applied for the money. about $17 million, the so-called ground zero mosque developers want $5 million of that to help them build this project that is

such a center of controversy and contentio contentiousness. in a statement, park 51, the developers of the project say "they are committed to exploring all sources of revenue and funding to build the community center. social service programs for residents of lower manhattan such as domestic violence prevention, arabic and other foreign language classes, programs and services for homeless veterans. two multicultural art xibexhibi and immigration services. the developer of the project doesn't specify how much money of the federal funds would go to help build the project. they say it would provide 150 jobs. but others call it another provocative insult, peter king, the likely incoming head of the homeland security committee is outraged. he said "it is entirely wrong for any taxpayer money to be used to fund the ground zero mosque. this is particularly true when it is being done in such a secretive way, he says. this further offends the memory of all those who were murdered on september 11th.

the project needs about $140 million they say. they've basiced raised very little of that so now the developers have their hands out to the government for help. back to you in the studio. >> all right, eric, thank you very much for that live report. let's head over to steve. >> thanks, gretch and brian. tsa patdowns are uncomfortable and intrusive for all parties involved. tsa administrator john pistole told us yesterday they are not going anywhere. >> well, what i agreed to do is to look at how we can do this type of screening, if we do it less invasively, has been the request, then i'm open to doing that. what i'd like to do is work with the gao and inspector general and say these are the ones that have done the covert testing. are there less intrusive means that still provide that high level confidence in terms of the screening? >> great question. is there a better way? we turn to our panel of experts, andy thomas is a former tsa screener. c. stewart is the former

homeland security assistant secretary and michael hoffman, former homeland security research analyst on airport security systems and they join us from all across the country. good morning, guys and gal. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> annie, let's start with you, you're a former screener for tsa. what are your friends at the tsa screeners telling you about this, you know, this super patdown? >> well, they're not real happy about it because they're getting a lot of static from the passengers but what the passengers aren't remembering is that an explosive device has been unable to be placed aboard an airplane since 9/11. it's the proven policy that works. the 9/11 -- the underwear bomber came from amsterdam. the richard reid, shoe bomber came from paris and flying into miami. the fact is and i say the bottom line is this is a proven policy that works and they have been able to keep our country safe. >> uh-huh.

let's talk to you. you know, we just did a story about an hour ago about how a guy who looked at this, looked at the screener, talked to the people who put the screener together, said that this particular screener that shows you naked, essentially, would not have detected the bomb the guy had in his pants. so maybe it's working as a deterrent but as a piece of equipment, it doesn't work so well. >> well, these machines are doing a good job of finding certain threats. and we don't have a silver bullet situation. i have to give tsa a lot of credit. they've already heard the response to the new procedures. they've now moved on the pilots. they have moved on kids and other things they can do. we ought to bring back a red shirt traveler program with biometrics at the checkpoint. we have to have the screening that we need and the privacy protection that tsa has built in are acceptable. the public is missing that they have built a good privacy regime over there and, you know, with a couple of tweaks that the administrator pistole is talking

about in the registered traveler program, we can get through this difficult time. >> you know, i beg to differ with you. i think if somebody has run their hands over somebody's breasts or their groin, i think there's some privacy problems there. >> well, again, i think that the situation, if somebody alarmed the machine, you have to resolve that alarm. if people are going to opt out -- >> it's an 85-year-old grandma who set off the machine, it just seems weird because she doesn't fit the, you know, what a lot of people in law enforcement would consider the profile. >> well, i totally agree we ought to be trying to exempt as many people from this as we can, if they've gone through a background check and the like and an 85-year-old grandma is not the likely target, that's for sure. again, we need to be moving people out and getting pilots through with the biometrics and the like. we need better r&d on the technology so people can walk through the checkpoint without getting rid of every little scrap piece of paper on their body. >> when you talk about the shoe bomber, he did that. next thing you know, we have to

take off our shoes and you have the underwear bomber and next thing you know, we can't carry on liquids. the tsa and our government is more reactive than proactive. >> that's true, steve. and unfortunately, they've been that way since the 9/11 occurred. and we need to really take a policy and an approach that's more proactive. there's four stages. you need human intelligence in advance of anybody showing up to the airport. you need technology. there's a certain amount of physical that has to happen and you have to profile. if you don't do those things, we're going to take another airplane down. and that's inevitable. >> michael, do you see a better way as we go to the airports this weekend? you know, should we be doing something else? >> well, it's all a matter of degree, steve. the fact is that we don't need to go from what was an accepted level of a patdown to an extreme level that's offensesive. let's, you know, if somebody sets off an alarm, start asking some questions. if the questions aren't answered well, maybe that person needs more of a physical patdown, the

85-year-old grandmother is going to look at and say, you know, son, do you think i'm carrying a bomb? and you're not going to give her a hard patdown, are you? >> annie has gone through many, many screenings and annie, you know, i guess you were obligated by the protocol to pat that 85-year-old grandmother down because those are the rules right now. >> absolutely. and don't put it past al-qaida or the terrorists to end their 85-year-old grandmother's life in a glory tribute to allah. the saying goes and many of my fellow screeners used to say, trust no one and test everyone because lives depend on it. absolutely. lives depend on it. >> indeed they do. >> the mothers now are getting really upset about their children being patted down. well, i do recall that hezbollah is training children to carry on explosives. >> great point. all right. this has been a terrific panel. our thanks to annie and c. stuart and michael as well. >> thank you, steve. >> i'd like to also thank the screeners. >> absolutely. our thanks to the screeners.

>> they are not getting enough -- they are not getting enough gratitude. >> sure. all right. >> thank you. >> all right. thank you very much. over to you. >> all right. interesting panel. 17 minutes before the top of the hour. students as young as 6 getting lessons in sharia law. peter johnson jr. here to explain and tell us who is behind that. >> and santa claus, all right, he's coming to town! when it comes to buying christmas gifts, what companies are naughty and which companies are nice. the best and worst policies with holiday season. did you hear that? santa's coming. [ female announcer ] fa: the medicine in children's advil® is the #1 pediatrician recommended pain reliever for children. plus, children's advil® brings fever down faster than children's tylenol®. choose children'advil®. relief you can trust.

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>> seeds of hate are being planted in the minds of thousands of impressionable kids as young as 6 years old in the u.k. kids attending dozens of islamic schools are learning a strict saudi national curriculum that contains anti-semitic and homophobic views. could it come here? fox legal analyst peter johnson jr. joins us. some of the things that these kids are taught, reprehensible qualities of jews. >> they compared jews to pigs and apes. other anti-semitic statements, homosexual sex will result in death. allegedly, according to the bbc, panorama show, shown in england, the fact that -- showing students 6 to 18 how to cut off limbs as punishment for thievery and allegedly, it's part of this saudi arabia national curriculum in which there's been some discussion in the united states post 9/11 based on the fact that

so many of the 9/11 terrorists were saudi arabian desent. so it's become an issue in england in terms of should hate speech be taught in the so-called weekend schools in great britain? it takes on added significance because we know what's going on in the state of oklahoma now. there was a decision yesterday that a federal judge is going to stay the imposition of the prohibition on sharia law in the state of oklahoma and we see the story this morning whereby apparently the folks down at the 9/11 mosque and cultural center are seeking about $5 million in federal funds for so-called educational purposes. and so the first off the cuff thought is will that school -- will that cultural program impose the same kind of things exposed in that bbc panorama special with regard to

homophobia, anti-semitism, hate speech and hate conduct? i hope not. a lot of people left to say, well, this is all over blown. why are you creating an issue? when we see in great britain now that thousands of students are being taught a curriculum that is hateful on its face, obviously, it calls for vigilance in a free country. at the same time, respecting people's ability to worship a religion in the way they wish to worship. certainly not to anyone's detriment, though. >> we'll have to wait and see how that pans out. thank you very much. before you go christmas shopping, you have to hear this. the list of which store policies are naughty and which ones are nice. the number one song was "mony, mony" by billy idol. it's that time of year. time for campbell's green bean casserole. you'll find the recipe at campbellskitchen.com.

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>> answer to the trivia question, snooki. the winner is not. it's brian lane. he lives in north carolina. go to his house and tell him he won. he's probably sleeping. >> indeed. meanwhile, the holiday, christmas shopping season is under way and "consumer reports" has just released its first ever naughty and nice list. it letsz you know which companies are consumer friendly and which ones are not. >> so who has been naughty, who has been nice? todd marks is the senior editor for "consumer reports" and here to break down the list for us. let's start first, todd, welcome. can we start with an airline? spirit airline. where do you rank it? >> again, these aren't rankings. i want to make that clear. look at companies that do things or make life easier for consumers and just aspects of their policy. not necessarily the whole company. it's likes and dislikes. so spirit airlines. >> spirit has a long history of sort of pioneers ancillary fees and they charge for checked luggage and, you know, 30 in advance and 45 at the gate.

we don't like that. that's for carry-on luggage, i should say, yeah. >> one that you think is nice is southwest airlines. >> yeah, they're the ones that don't charge for checked luggage. your first two items are free and then that includes bulky things like golf clubs and skis. >> electronics, though, the second best category, you write best buy. >> do you like best buy? >> not a matter of liking or disliking. >> aren't they on the naughty list? >> best buy has a relatively short window of opportunity to return electronic products. 14 days. that's not always enough time for computers, monitors, digital cameras and camcorders. >> place called j&r. >> they have a great price matching policy. a lot of price matching policies have red tape attached to them. exceptions here and there and they give you a 30-day price match guarantee. if you find it cheaper for less, it goes on sale and you can have that price adjusted. >> third category, smart phones, let's start naughty. >> verizon, they doubled their

early termination fee to $350 for terminating your smartphone plan after the 30-day grace period. >> meanwhile, u.s. cellular? >> we like them because one -- they got a great policy where the fcc is proposing that cell carriers alert consumers who are about to go over their minute allocations, they're doing it in advance. >> fourth and final category, return policies when it comes to comp u.s.a. >> comp u.s.a., the problem is there they have a restocking fee, you know, a lot of companies have them but we thought that it's up to 25% of purchase price and that's a little higher than the norm. >> sure, when it comes to nice, wal-mart. >> wal-mart because they have a new policy whereas a lot of companies are tightening the return policies, if you don't have a receipt, they'll allow up to three receiptless returns within a 45 day window without approval for a cash refund. >> i like that. all right, todd marks from "consumer reports" thank you very much for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> coming up straight ahead, a

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>> gretchen: good morning, everyone. tuesday, november 23, 2010. we begin with a fox news alert. the u.n. security council calling an emergency meeting now as north korea launches an attack on south korea. what does this mean for the united states? we will have a live report from the white house straight ahead. >> steve: we've heard the horror stories about people out at the airport with prosthetics being humiliated during the pat-downs. the tsa says that's exactly what terrorists are planning to use. where do we draw the line. >> brian: a big meal on a

budget. paula deen says she can help your family make it happen this weekend and in two days. she's here live to explain. and she'll be talking to us. >> gretchen: fox news alert. breaking story overnight, south korea says two of their marines have been killed after north korea fired dozens of artillery rounds into one of its islands. the south returned fire, even scrambled fighter jets. joining us live from washington, d.c. with the very latest on this breaking story is kelly wright. good morning. >> good morning. the white house condemns the attack and is urging north korea to stop its belligerent action and to comply with the agreement it made more than 50 years ago. having said that, white house press secretary robert gibbs

issuing a predawn statement this morning following that attack. he states the united states is firmly committed to the defense of our ally, the republic of korea, and to the maintenance of regional peace and stability. for its part, north korea's blaming south korea for the skirmish, but south korea's military claims the north conducted an artillery attack against the south korean island. the attack prompted south korea to return fire and scramble fighter jets. south korea says two marines have been killed and 16 others injured during that attack. south korea also calls the provocation, quote, an inhumane attack on civilian areas, adding it violates the 1953 armistice ending the korean war. some people still consider these two countries as we know to be hostile toward each other. they add the u.s. military is keeping a close watch on the situation. we have the statement that i want to read to you from captain john kirby. he is the spokesperson for

admiral mullen, he says, quote, the chairman has been kept fully aware of the north korean artillery attack. he is in close contact with our commanders in the region and is keeping the secretary of defense informed and as we know, the white house is also staying in touch with the leadership of south korea. gretchen, back to you. >> brian: i'm wondering, the north koreans are saying that the south shot first, but the south are in war games and they shot west. do they have any credibility there? >> i don't think so. we're going to have to wait until all this falls out. as we heard earlier, the u.n. security council is considering holding an emergency meeting. this comes on the heels, by the way, you'll recall more than a month ago, kim jung-il introduced his son, youngest son, as becoming his successor. this provocation, we just don't

know what's going on. but we know the white house is keeping a close and watchful eye on it and in terms of what it will do or what the united states military will do is a wait and see situation right now. >> gretchen: you said the word, provocation, and that sums it up. thank you for the live report from the white house. the rest of your headlines, a major terror raid in europe. ten suspected militants rounded up in three nations. suspects arrested in raids in belgium, germany and the netherlands. homes searched, some of the suspects were allegedly involved in a plot to attack belgium. others officially recruiters a chechen terror group. >> brian: david axelrod, fox confirms the senior advisor leaving after the president's state of the union address, late january or early february. axelrod taking some time off before helping the president in his bid for reelection. the president's 2008 campaign manager will take axelrod's place.

steve? >> steve: well, brian and gretch, save the date. we learned this morning that the royal wedding between prince william and kate middleton will happen on -- are you ready -- april 29 of next year at westminster abbey. british government says the day will be marked as a public holiday. people will get the day off to celebrate. >> brian: she thought she and her daughter were being honored at a titans game because of an essay she wrote about her husband serving in afghanistan. but when they hit the field to watch a video message from him, they received an even bigger surprise. >> wow. sergeant mark foster hadn't seen his family since march. he has two weeks before his next deployment and he'll never forget that. neither one in the stadium.

>> this is like a wedding day all over again. >> brian: this will be their first thanksgiving together in three years. those are your headlines, everybody. >> gretchen: thanks for pinch hitting. let's bring in laura laura ingr. that was a great story. >> steve: there is a story out, jake tapper did this yesterday about how apparently terrorists have discussed using prosthetic devices, legs, whatever, to conceal explosives. it's not new intel, it's the tsa trying to justify we've got the pat-downs because the bad guys are trying to use them forebombs. >> this seems like post hoc justification. i keep wondering this, if these pat-downs really are so necessary and important in this new heightened terrorist concern that we have, then why aren't we patting down people who cross our borders in the same way?

imagine if the checkpoint, san diego checkpoint, checkpoints to the north were treated in the same way that the airports are being administered today, you know me, i think that this whole experiment is a way to justify our bureaucracy's existence. i think george will, his column hit it out of the park. this is going way beyond what is necessary. >> steve: yeah. you can't pat down people on our southern border who you don't even stop. >> the people we actually stop, i mean, they could be obviously carrying explosives and could go right to a school and explode a school, heaven forbid. but we don't do that. we only want to harass law abiding americans and make them go through hell. >> brian: the other side, if there is another underwear bomber, everybody will be saying, it's been nine months since the first one, how come we haven't figured out a way to stop them and the underwear bomber keeps the petn in his

underwear. >> we're not even clear that the underway bomber would have been thwarted by these machines that are in the airports. according to the people who actually were responsible for producing the technology that made these machines. again, we give up a little bit of our freedom every time the government does something like this and obviously it's difficult. it's a difficult situation. we should at least have this conversation before we move to the body cavity searches which is what's going to happen if a terrorist smuggles something in a bodily orifice next. then what happens to grandma and the breast cancer survivor? then what happens to the returning veteran? at some point, the madness has to stop. >> steve: we are a cavity free zone here. >> brian: #. >> you're all filled up. >> brian: the name of the book is "beyond fear." he coined the phrase, security fear. he believes this entire operation even today is all about looking busy.

it won't catch anybody. >> that interview with him was rivetting. he wrote a book and he was on to promote the book. but he knows something about this. he consults with governments and businesses around the world. i've interviewed other people on my show, they're all saying, look, maybe you would catch one or two people who would do something bad, but in general, this is the wrong approach to a security situation that sadly, it's focused on a few demographic groups and a few people from different types -- a few different criminals and we have to focus on those people. an extraordinary circumstances should these types of pat-downs be done. >> gretchen: we know president obama probably is not going to say that profiling is the answer. so what should he do? >> i mean, we can't do anything. of course he's not going to say that. gretchen, you're absolutely right.

but i think for people to say, what can you do, this is the government, can't take that attitude, otherwise we're not going to have any freedom left. you have to stand up and say, this is not the right way to do it. let's work together on this and not vilify the tsa. for the most part, they're good people and trying to carry out their job. >> steve: sure. and that thing by the guy in popular mechanics, he raises a good point, has the tsa ever stopped a terrorist at the airport? the answer is no. >> brian: maybe on the return. >> but it makes us feel better because everybody is getting their thighs felt up or the woman has to take off her breast. i mean, really, at some point we have to say, is this necessary? are we focusing on the right people? or should everybody effectively be profiled? >> gretchen: last night brit hume had these thoughts about the president. >> controversy feeds into the perception that people have had about this administration that

it overgoverns, that there is too much regulation, too much government intrusion and this is but one more example of that. i think there is a -- owing to the fact you mentioned a certain loss of confidence in the president and i think obviously that's a political liability that he carries as he heads into these second two years of his first term. i think he can recover, but he's got work to do. >> gretchen: the main thing is nobody expected it, including everyone in the obama administration. i want to move to this next hot topic because now it's coming out that the ground zero mosque, the controversial mosque, 70% of americans were against, applied for grant money from the 9-11 fund because they claim that they are a rightful business that wants to build down there and will bring culture to the 9-11 sacred ground. what would happen if we had not found out about this and do you think that this will actually pass and be approved? >> well, anything is possible in new york city.

look, with mary bloomberg and others supporting the community center, and initially i thought, seems like a good idea until there were too many unanswered questions involving the funding, involving the organization of the core group. so look, the added insult to injury in new york is now the taxpayers, all of us, are going to have to probably fund this center. i'm telling you, they fit the bill. they technically fit the rules for eligibility. they're asking for way too much money. they'll probably in the end, if they get anything, will get something along the lines of a million dollars. but wouldn't you rather give that million dollars to a wounded warrior organization, people fighting the war against terror? it's the ultimate irony that we're ending up funding a community center like this. >> brian: from a group that wants to separate itself from ground zero, who says it's blocks away, it's not close -- now they want to be included in the region, they want 5 million bucks. there is 265 applicants. i imagine 264 are better

qualified. >> my question, brian, is saint nicholas church, i wonder if they ever applied for this type of funding. they still haven't been rebuilt. >> el-gamal wants the money. he's going to go for money wherever he can. if he can get a million dollars, that will help him a lot in this project. >> brian: how much would it take for to you carry to the next segment? >> i'll do it for free. it's thanksgiving. poor gretchen, i've been through this chest thing. >> gretchen: i remember. thank you. >> i was a little kid. >> gretchen: you hate to blame the little guy, but yep. more democrats like vice president biden seem to be supporting sarah palin for president? but don't believe everything you hear. laura will comment on that. >> steve: then remember velma heart who told the president this two months ago. >> frankly, i'm exhausted. i'm exhausted of defending you, defending your administration.

>> steve: she was afraid she would have to go back to eating hot dogs and beans. you know what? she just might. she just lost her job.

>> gretchen: we're back with laura ingram. all right. more and more liberals are saying how much they love

governor sarah palin. just last week vice president joe biden when asked if she could become president said something to the effect of yeah, don't underestimate her. is this a new strategy, because they may be want her to run and then thinking that president obama could beat her easily? >> yeah. i think you're right. this is a concerted effort on the part of the left to raise palin as this conservative boogie man, right. that, you got to support us, even though we're not perfect, we haven't done everything right. you're impatient for change. but if you don't support us and our ideas, look who will get elected president. they're holding her out as the, in their mind, the horror show of all horror shows, and they think that's going to whip up their base. i think dissipate some of the dissension in the left wing ranks that currently exists because of what president obama is doing. but it's so obvious. it's so transparent what they're doing and it's really weak. if you have good ideas, defend your ideas. palin is not running it. she may or may not. but duke it out in the world of

ideas. why make it an issue right now about sarah palin? it looks really wimpy. >> steve: we heard last night sarah palin say that she could beat obama and we had mike huckabee, former governor of arkansas, on our program just a little while ago and he said he could beat obama as well. listen to these sound bites. >> of course i believe i could beat barak obama, otherwise why would i be contemplating a run? again, it is only contemplation at this time. but i'd be in it to win it. >> i think anybody given the right circumstances could potentially do it. my own decision in all of this is not going to be one that i would make unless i thought i could. you don't run for office saying, i'd love to lose. >> steve: laura? >> my question is, could mike huckabee club that halibut like governor palin clubbed it the other night. if you can't knock it out in two hits, then you shouldn't be

running for president. i love that scene. >> brian: huckabee spear fishing somewhere. >> i'm not sure if barak obama has ever fired a gun. i've been researching that. i'm not sure he has, but i think everyone knows that if palin can do that to the halibut, look out ahmadinejab. i like palin. i like the fact she's out there defying the stereotype of what a politician should look like or act like. >> gretchen: we know you like competition 'cause we saw you do that dance-off with me. can you believe that somebody else now has picked up on that? here was the original dance-off. gosh, you looked good. >> i'm going to kill you guys. >> gretchen: now, here we are. what? >> this is terrifying. we look much better than we look in the original. as long as you don't put me in a cage, we're fine. i'm just gloat i'm out of the cage.

>> steve: fantastic. you guys should take that on the road. >> gretchen, you're in front. i think you won that. now i'm doing like the tootsie roll there. >> steve: she's giving away signed copies of her best seller "the obama diaries." perfect gift for christmas. happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. >> brian: she didn't break a sweat. there she goes. coming up straight ahead, a new warning for women taking hormone drugs claiming an increased risk for developing cancer. an expert here to explain. >> gretchen: paula deen isn't cutting any calorie this is thanksgiving. and instead, she's cutting costs. the expert chef is here to explain how you can do thanksgiving on a budget.

>> gretchen: welcome back. two separate studies link synthetic hormone replacement therapy to an increased risk of developing breast and ovarian cancers. with nearly 20% of these commonly used prescriptions, is there a safer alternative? dr. schwartz is in texas. she joins me this morning. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> gretchen: you say this discussion should not even be about hormone replacement therapy. it should be about synthetic versus the natural alternative. >> exactly. i think the industry has to stop focusing on researching what we already know, which is that synthetic hormone replacement

therapy, which is premarin, pregnant horses urine, which is what they really are, have been proven since 2002 to be dangerous. heart attack, stroke, cancer. we already know that. we need to stop robbing women of hope and stop intimidating and fear mongering. we have to stop discussing the fact that bioidentical hormones have been researched for 40 years, the f.d.a. approved, they work in millions of women and by the way, there are 52 million women in menopause today. we're talking about 1.1 billion women in 2025 over 50. so women need safe alternatives. bioidenticals are safe alternatives. >> gretchen: because when that big study came out a couple weeks ago, these were the facts we heard. 25% had developed invasive breast cancer if they were on the synthetic hormones. 78% developed cancer of the limp nodes. and others died. a lot of women, i remember we did the story, they were just

like, i guess we don't have any alternative. but you're here to say -- >> women have alternatives. but unfortunately, the women's health initiative, the study, kind of blanket destroyed the concept of hormone replacement therapy because they dealt with synthetic hormones and did not study bioidentical more moans. all of them are not created equal. women need to know that. their physicians need to know that. physicians don't know that. physicians need to be educated. it's an individualized way of getting care, which is bioidentical hormones, by a physician that's educated, who is informed, who doesn't just poopoo whatever a woman comes in with. >> gretchen: another point you ke is that you believe that if the synthetic hormones were a male drug, that they would be off the market. why? >> because they've been proven unequivocally, since the 1980s and '90s, to increase the incidence of cancer, heart attacks and strokes. and they're still on the market.

they went from being $1 billion drug in 2002 to $500 million drug in 2006. they're still on the market. and physicians don't know the distinction between bioidentical to what your body makes, and actually makes sense and synthetics. >> gretchen: today from dr. schwartz, we're learning about an alternative. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> gretchen: coming up, she danced for the final time and now the votes are being counted for bristol palin. but not without a lot of controversy. she told obama she didn't want to be forced to live off franks and beans again. but that nightmare may come true. velma heart has lost her job. paula deen has the magic touch when it comes to home cooking. she's serving up her favorite thanksgiving recipes right after the break.

>> the white house was evacuated today after a small plane crossed over in restricted air space. somebody in the white house yelled, everybody get out and president obama said, it's 2012 already? >> steve: two months ago, over on another cable financial channel, a woman by the name of velma hart, stood up and asked the president a question that was also kind of a statement. remember her? >> so grateful for cnbc making the forum available so that you can speak. the mantle of change that i voted for, am deeply disappointed with where we are right now. i was told that i voted for a man who said he was going to change things in a meaningful way for the middle class. i'm one of those people and i'm waiting, sir. i'm waiting. i don't feel it yet. and i thought while it wouldn't be in great measure, i would feel it in some small measure.

>> brian: she's feeling it now. she is the cfo, very accomplished, military veteran, a mom, a wife and got a finance degree. she was cfo of amvest in maryland, a nonprofit. >> gretchen: it's a vet service organization, guess what, now she has been fired, let go, because of budgetary cuts. two months after that plea, now she roll won't see the hope and change for now because she's out of a job. >> brian: not performance related. it was money related, two kids in private school. one getting set for college. tough times. >> steve: indeed. >> gretchen: fox business alert now. the commerce department releasing the revised third quarter gross domestic product. it showed a growth of 2.5%. analysts were expecting a growth of 2.4%. the gdp is the output of goods and services produced by labor and property right here in the good old u.s. of a. >> steve: we should know by the end of the day if that female

jaw bone found on a beach in aruba belongs to natalee holloway. they have been comparing it to her dental records. this would be the first concrete evidence of her death since she disappeared five years ago. >> brian: another fox news alert. rahm emanuel has some surprising new competition for the race for mayor of chicago. is this true? the magic man, outgoing illinois senator rolen burris, remember, he was tapped by former governor dennis rodman to fill did did did -- blagojevich to fill the seat. supporters filed nominating petitions on his behalf yesterday. burris is not officially decided if he will run. interesting. one candidate running, rob halpin, the man who rented his apartment and refusing to leave until his lease is up. he likes the guards. that's all we know. >> steve: meanwhile, bristol palin performing under heightened security last night on "dancing with the stars."

the finals. she was in the top three. it's reported she and her dance partner had been getting death threats. the f.b.i. is reportedly investigating a threatening letter that was sent to her on friday containing some sort of white stuff. powdery stuff. bristol earned 52 points out of 60 last night and trails her rivals. the winner will be tonight on abc. >> brian: up to the people. >> steve: it is. for the people, let's take a look at your weather. people in wisconsin and illinois facing a daunting task, cleaning up after tornado ripped through the area. this is from walworth county. the storms caused significant damage, ripping roofs off, tearing out trees and tossing around a couple of cars as well. not good. in illinois, the storms flipped over a school bus, toppled the school bus. the driver and several students suffered minor injuries, but they made it out of that alive.

beware of the weather as it moves through the weather. let's talk about what happened last night. >> brian: take a look at it. any questions? thank you. last night, the chargers looking to climb back into playoff contention against the broncos, they always surge this time of year. would they last night? after an early denver touchdown, it would be all san diego. they scored 35 unanswered points. chargers led 35-14. all eyes will be in san diego to see if the team makes its huge december run. they haven't lost a game in december since 2006. the broncos are 3-7. sorry, gretch, but the circus you continues for the minnesota vikings. the head coach has been fired. childress is replaced by an inspirational guy, lesley frazier. there have been numerous reports

of competition between childress and his players. childress ruffled feathers by cutting randy moss a week after trading for the receiver. by the way, he said, brett favre is his starting quarterback. who is the most valuable player in the national league last year? the overwhelming choice, reds first baseman, joey vado. he got a 324, 37 homers. more importantly, he got the reds their first division title in 15 years. the american league mvp will be announced today. josh hamilton was so good, kanosh should be second. >> steve: let's take a look at the holiday bearing down on us. with grocery prices way up this year, how can you continue to cook your favorite meals on a budget? paula deen is here with some money saving tips and her favorite thanksgiving dishes. good morning to you, paula deen, down there in williamsburg, virginia. >> good morning, steve. gretchen and brian, hey.

i hadn't seen you guys in a while. >> steve: i know. you know something about saving money. didn't you used to be a bank teller? >> you know, and i was also the bag lady, steve. let's not forget that. bag ladies know how to save money, don't they? >> steve: with your sandwiches, that's right. >> look where i'm at. i'm at kingsville, resort in williamsburg, across from the ham capitol of the world. can you believe this view? >> steve: no kidding. >> gretchen: that looks fabulous. and i'm looking at the food. that's what you're known for. >> hello, darling gretchen. >> gretchen: good morning. this thanksgiving you are talking about cutting cost. how are we going to do that with something that sounds so delicious as ham stuffed puff pastries? >> well, we can do it, gretchen. i pulled out some things that belonged to my mother, like the tray that i have my ham on. i pulled out old linens.

the fancies came from right out of the garden here. so no money spent there. and i recommend that people buy in season what is in their growing season because it's all about supply and demand. if there is a good supply, the price will be right. remember to clip those coupons and buy things when you can get them on sale, put in your freezer. some grocery stores have double coupon day where you can get twice on the coupon. these things really, really add up. >> steve: all right. >> be familiar. >> steve: can we take a hook at what's on your table? the camera guy says, okay, you got ham stuffed puff pastryies. >> yes. i got cheese balls rolled in that delicious bacon. i've got pies.

i've got sweet potato soup. i've got fresh cranberry sauce. and of course, i got my p paula deen spiral glaze crusted ham by smithville. i got my fancy green beans with cashews with peppers and bacon. i've got my stuffing that i've stuffed with that good old sausage. i've got oatmeal cookies. honey, and i got more in the kitchen that y'all can't see. >> steve: you know, i also see you've got a glass of red wine right in front of you. it is 8:39 in the morning. at what point is a good time to start drinking on thanksgiving? >> well, it depends on who is doing the cooking. if you know what i mean. >> brian: we have a tradition in our house. >> gretchen: paula, since you decide -- since you decided to imbibe, i know you're going to

be comfortable enough for this next question, which is there is a new study that came out today that says thanksgiving has a lot to do with better sex. it says that men far and away love the aroma of pumpkin. your thoughts. >> pumpkin? well, let's see here. >> steve: you got something. >> pumpkin? >> brian: smell my jack-o-lantern. >> i'd have a whole trail of men behind me before i know it. >> gretchen: i hope your husband is traveling with you. >> he's with me, honey. actually, he's somewhere chasing a ball. >> steve: okay. while his wife is wearing

pumpkin? [ laughter ] it's always a pleasure to have you. >> no. this is cranberry jows! juice! it really is. >> gretchen: she just laced it with pumpkin. >> steve: you got the ocean spray behind you. not in front of you. all right. have a fantastic thanksgiving. >> listen, y'all have a blessed thanksgiving day, too, y'all. >> gretchen: i love that. >> cheers! >> gretchen: all you women run out and get some pumpkin. >> steve: wait a minute. could that be why brian loves the pumpkin spice latte? >> brian: now you got yourself a story. >> gretchen: maybe we should call dawn. coming up on our show, one of our nation's top scientists says he has a cheap and simple fix to the new airport body scan. see it for yourself next. the department of homeland security told him to take a hike. >> brian: a singer inspired by u.s. soldiers serving overseas. here with a live tribute to our

armed forces.

>> steve: the tsa is coming under a lot of fire from passengers and civil liberties groups for the invasive screening methods. do you want people looking at that? the main argument is that these images like these are in violation of our privacy rights. now a california scientist says a simple technical fix that he created four or five years ago could resolve most of this controversy in no time. dr. bill is that scientist and former nuclear weapons designer at the lawrence livermore laboratory and joins us from honolulu. good morning to you. >> good morning, steve. >> steve: when you heard that the tsa was going to deploy these full body scanners that show your private parts, you and the smart guys at the national laboratories said what?

>> several scientists commented, they better distort these images. we know the capability of these scanners for a long time. and that triggered a thought. i gave them a simple design, they implemented it. the lab put it in the patent application. the europeans evidently followed up on it and frankly, it's sort of obvious. i hate to say that 'cause that might defeat the patent. but the patent is owned by the government anyway. >> steve: your idea is, and we're going to take a look at it, one of your suggestions, is you take the imagery that is produced by that machine, but you use software to distort is so that a person looks cartoonish like instead. >> exactly. >> steve: it would show the bad stuff. >> exactly. imagine your image in the fun house mirrors where you're distorted, bloated, weighty, tall, take away the reality of the whole body that is really an insult to most people. >> steve: and the image on the right that we're showing folks,

that's kind of the fun house image where it's very distorted. you can't really see stuff. the key is you can not really see a person's private areas and that's the main thing. you do see the weapons clearly on the person to the left. you can see down around the waist area. here is a thing that will bother a lot of people. you took this information, this idea to the tsa four or five years ago and they essentially told you, great idea. we'll call you back. they never got back to you. >> well, it's not really certain it ever really got to the right people. i have to admit, we were very, very busy with trying to stop the bombings in iraq, killing our soldiers. >> steve: absolutely. >> when this was written up, i passed it through the channels. i think it was last in the hands of a pr person somewhere said, i'll see that it gets to the right people. we never heard more. >> steve: the key is, this fix right now could fix it. couldn't it? >> certainly it can. it's a very easy fix. it's actually a simpleification, they're working too damn hard to embarrass people.

>> steve: indeed. all right. i hope somebody in washington is watching this. they say hey, let's go find that thing that bill wattenberg figured out a while back. sir, we thank you very much for joining us live. >> thank you. >> steve: it's a great idea. i hope they do something about that. meanwhile, straight ahead, you're going to love this. a singer inspired by u.s. soldiers serving overseas here next with a tribute, a live one, to our armed forces. you're not going to want to miss that. first, let's check in with martha mccallum for a preview of what happens in 12 minutes. >> thank you. a big line - up today. we have steve forks, governor pataki, congressman jason altmire is getting a lot of attention to talk about the urgent need to get this right with the u.s. economy plagued by debt, of course. and also natalee holloway's family waits for word on the dna of a jaw bone found on the beach. bill and i join us at the top of the hour.

>> brian: we are back. it's a thank you to our armed forces who put their lives on the line every day to protect our freedom. singer song writer joe brocato was inspired to write the song "thank you soldier" after learning about fallen u.s. soldier jason johnson. jason was deployed in afghanistan last year when his unit was attacked by an i.e. d. jason was the only one killed in the attack. with us right now is jason's dad, brad johnson, and singer joe brocato. i'm so sorry about your son. and this is also a story that motivated joe to write the song and part of the reason is your son is one of the many who said, not only do i do one tour of duty, i'm going back again. he didn't have to. >> no, he didn't have to go back. as a matter of fact, the government rescinded their decision not to send him back because he fought so hard to go back with his troops two months after they had already been

deployed. >> brian: 24 years old, you said it was his dream to join. >> it was. it was his dream to be special ops. >> brian: joe, you heard about the story and you said, i got to write something about this. >> as a song writer, i always wanted to dedicate a song to the servicemen and women throughout history that have protected us. when i saw jason's story, it really kicked it in. >> brian: you have played your video, here it is. "thank you soldier" and we'll talk to you after. ♪ living here in paradise ♪ ♪ because of sacrifice from the lives of heros ♪ ♪ they leave their homes and

families ♪ ♪ fight for you and me to protect our country ♪ ♪ on foreign land they make their stand ♪ ♪ in the name of freedom ♪ so let's show our love to the warriors ♪ ♪ thank you soldier for giving your lives protecting me ♪ ♪ thank you brothers, sisters, too, for keeping our land free ♪ ♪ thank you soldier ♪ thank you soldier ♪ somewhere on the battlefield a

soldier kneels in the burning sun ♪ ♪ camouflaging as he volunteers to go and save the world ♪ ♪ round after round explodeing sound out in the middle of nowhere ♪ ♪ i hope that god above hears that soldier's prayer ♪ ♪ thank you soldier for giving your lives protecting me ♪ ♪ thank you brothers, sisters too for keeping our land free ♪ ♪ thank you soldier

♪ thank you soldier ♪ for us you sacrificeed, defending and protecting us ♪ ♪ you give your blood, you give your lives for freedom, for freedom ♪ ♪ for freedom ♪ thank you soldier for giving your lives protecting me ♪ ♪ thank you brothers, sisters, too, for keeping our land free ♪ ♪ . >> brian: awesome job. fantastic. what a great tribute. fantastic. we'll find out how to get that and talk to brad about jason and talk about your song. back in two minutes.