explore tonight on the fox business network, an hour from now. what? you don't get fbn? >> demand it. >> not bad. neil is back monday. glenn beck is right now. captioned by closed captioning services, inc [ applause ] >> glenn: hello, america. welcome to the "glenn beck program." tonight, is there a shariah threat to america? no! no, there's not. i guarantee you what you're going to learn tonight is going to open your eyes a little bit. for instance, are we the american taxpayers actually funding terror? probably. are we unwittingly contributing to the

destruction of our own constitution? yeah. you know it's amazing to me, we have, we're good and decent people. we try to be inclusive and try not to be hateful. but we're going to be remembered not as tolerant, we're going to be remembered as morons. we are taking our own country down. i showed you this before. this is a theory that as soon as tunisia happened on the 31st of january, i said look out. tunisia is going to be possibly the archduke ferdinand moment. anybody remember me saying that? did you think i was -- i mean sounded nuts at the time, didn't it? it sounded like it's tunisia, glenn. relax. now look how it is spread across. i said it would cascade and sweep the middle east and begin to destabilize europe or the rest of the world. "wall street journal" reported this week that yes, indeed, radicals, islamists, communists and socialists are

working together. in the middle east, yes, i know that sounds crazy. but it is starting to happen. we know that it's happening in the west. we know that it's happening here in america. there have been arrests of people who are funding terrorists or working with terrorists they're from the american left. but tonight i want to show you something else. tonight i want to show you a little bit of shariah. some of the laws that are being passed here in america. and what we're doing to ourselves. shariah, every faithful muslim is obligated to wage jihad. now there is a couple of different, two kinds of jihad there's the hey, look at me, i'm not a threat jihad. and then there is the other jihad that people will say that it's, you know, a jihad of the soul. there is a stealth or civilization jihad.

the stealth or civilization jihad is like the muslim brotherhood. although i contend they're this one as well. we've shown you this guy before. usef al caradali. the spiritual leader of the muslim brotherhood. the ninth most rated muslim on the earth. you might remember what he has said about the jewish people. >> glenn: remember, muslim brotherhood, they've changed. they're not like that anymore. though he is their spiritual leader. there is something else he has said we haven't told you about yet on this program. he said it in 2006. he was talking to the bbc about charity in the islamic culture. that's called the cot. now, here are his exact words

on the subject. "i don't like this word 'donations .' i like to call it 'jihad with money ,' because god ordered to us fight our enemies with our lives and our money. jihad with money. " that's where we want to start tonight. jihad doesn't always come in the form of a suicide vest or a plane flown into buildings there are jihaddists working to destroy america from within. through the economy. and through other avenues like infiltrating the justice system. or the media. congress. american culture. it is game on. financial jihad is being waged at this very moment against the united states and across the globe to the tune of $1 trillion. if you have ever heard the team shia complaint banking or shariah complaint products. let's get into that a little bit. shariah compliant banking or

finance is the practice of ensuring that all monetary matters are in full compliance with all aspects of islamic law. transzaxs must not involve products like pork or alcohol. they have to avoid interest and other things. shia banking also involves charity or the cot. remember we just heard from al-zarqawi. he likes to call the cot jihad with money. why? shariah requires muslims to tithe percentage of money to charity. shariah mutual funds are ultimately tithing to charity. this sounds fine so far, rights? which charities are the monies going to? charities like hamas or hezbollah? that is up to the shariah banking advisors. who is an advisor for the banks. there is a bank called bank

altaqua. you won't believe who the advisor was. this guy. that was shut down by the treasury department for funding terror groups. who would have seen that coming? are there other obvious points we're maybe turning our head to? islamic banking has entered the united states and other western nations thanks to banks like citigroup, hsbc, barclays, deutsche bank and others. it's not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself. until you get down to the shariah compliant officers. now there is one other thing. are we as a nation the owners of the largest per vay your -- purveyor of the largest shariah compliant in the world? we are. we bought the company, as taxpayers.

aig. the u.s. government took it over in 2008. i want to introduce you to a couple of people. first, chris holton, the vice president at the center for security policy. his organization published a book called "shariah, the threat to america." he's the editor of shariah finance watch.org. daniel pice, visiting fellow of hoover institute and author of "militant islam reaches america." great to have you both. start, chris, with you. daniel, you watch over shariah and your expertise is finance, correct? okay. first of all, do i have it all right? >> yes, sir. the only thing i can see you might have left out is iran dominate shariah compliant finance in the world. >> glenn: this isn't necessarily nefarious, right?

you could be shariah complaint and not necessarily fenarious, right? >> that's true. >> glenn: so why is shariah compliant something we should worry about? >> first, the whole purpose of shariah compliant finances is promote shariah. promoting shariah is something we shouldn't have in america. shariah is the enemy threat doctrine. the goal of the groups like al-qaeda, hezbollah and hamas. an thet call to everything in the constitution. in my opinion, the biggest threat to our constitutional rights over the next 25 years. in this country. >> glenn: would you agree with that, daniel? >> there are different kind of threats. china is one threat and shariah is another. >> glenn: do we all not agree that if america fails because we're lazy, or we just can't get our act together, somebody else beats us in fair competition, anybody have a problem with that? no. that is our fault. we're sloppy and lazy.

but the threat of someone coming in and we have our own problem with radicals in america trying to do this and overthrow something. that's a different topic. chris, help me out on the shariah compliant officers. how are these guys picked? >> well, there is not many shariah scholars in the world. there's probably only about 200 or so who sit on shariah advisory boards of shariah complaint financial institutions. you have two superstar of shariah advisory up there. somani, a former supreme court justice from pakistan. of course, as cardawi, the foremost shariah scholar in the sunni shariah world. >> glenn: how much money do they control, just these two? >> billions of dollars. they sit on multiple boards.

get paid thousands of dollars for each board they sit on. >> glenn: cardadawi is a muslim, university or something here in america or on a board in america, right? still? do you know what i'm talking about, daniel? do you, chris? >> yes. >> glenn: what is it? >> islamic american university. he was a founder. he was the chairman of the board of trustees, but he has to do it in absentia because he's forbidden to travel to america because of ties to terrorist groups. >> glenn: how is that happening, daniel? what are we doing here? how do we have a guy who is -- do you think he is a threat to america? >> he is a threat. >> glenn: how do we not know this stuff? >> he's prevented from coming in the country. but it wasn't the ties to terrorism but it was substance of a book he wrote. he has not been here for decades, if ever. >> glenn: are you saying he

is not, his influence isn't felt here? >> i'm not saying that. i'm saying that the government is bifurcated. some in the government understand who he is and want to keep him out. others think he is the solution to al-qaeda and the taliban. that this mono islamism is the solution. >> glenn: may i just ask a question: who thinks that, you know, hey, a few people like the nazis, even though he inflated the numbers, you know, killing the jews is not violent? is there anybody here thinks that just the clips you heard is not violent? >> how does anyone think he is nonviolent? >> nazis were violent themselves and part of violent machinery. >> but they're nazis. we're agreeing. the modern islamism is the same domination of the world. they themselves are not violent. >> wait, wait, wait.

i never said as a spiritual leader or human being, or, you know, anytime i can think of, hey, by the way, i'm just -- seriously, i mean, i'm praying that god will give me the strength to shoot jews from my wheelchair. who is defining him as moderate? >> the u.s. government by and large. seizes the muslim brotherhood as moderate. it's not the taliban. it's not out there planning and plotting. >> chris, what is worse? >> he's right. the left in the country has romantic view of the muslim brotherhood as well. >> i know that. i never heard this before. i know they're all in denial of the muslim brotherhood but i thought they shed the -- what was it that van jones says? shed the radical pose for the radical ends. is he more radical than what he's saying? that's pretty radical.

>> as you pointed out before, there are two different ways to apply shariah. one is through violence. taliban is an example. the other way is working through institutions politically and nonviolently. by and large, in the west, if you are in the latter group and not engaged in criminal activity or violent activity, you get a pass. government and other public institutions including many television stations, many universities, will say you're fine. you're okay. it's just talk. >> glenn: chris. >> in some ways that's more dangerous, because it gets around. nobody gives bin laden a pass. >> glenn: nobody gives the tea party a pass and they haven't said anything. tell me, chris, what you are most concerned about here with. because we looked at, there is a -- there are several groups. i don't want to single one out. there is one we found that is a hedge fund. it's a shariah hedge fund.

could find some nefarious characters in and around, et cetera, et cetera, but you know what i'm talking about. >> yes, sir. >> glenn: but i didn't see anything that necessarily was smoking gun, bad. when it comes to finance, are we missing something we should be seeing? >> there is very few smoking guns, as you said. those two are one but the other shariah scholars are much more careful of what they've said and written over the years. it's very difficult to figure them out. look at the background of the people and you look at where they are educate and you realize they're educators in incubators for jihad. >> glenn: tiffany, do you feel comfortable me saying the name of this hedge fund? could you remind me of the name of the hedge fund? [ laughter ] shariah capital. shariah capital is one of my

researchers actually came over to my house on a saturday and said glenn, i just found this. this doesn't seem right. they started looking into it. there is a lot of things in and around. can you tell me anything -- there is no smoking guns. but do you agree there are things in there that are a little. >> the whole problem here is if you go back to great britain to see what is happening in great britain, the purpose of shariah finance is to promolt shariah. and one of the ways they've basically lulled the british to sleep in to accepting shariah in to their society is through shariah finance. the archbishop of canterbury made a statement saying they have to incorporate aspect of shariah and it really isn't that big a deal, seeing as we've already incorporated shariah compliant finance. this is a trojan horse operating in terms of that specific

hedge fund, there is a shariah advisor on the hedge fund who was educated in a medrasa in pakistan that is a medrasa that has all kind of ties to jihadis. that doesn't mean he is a jihadi, but he went to the same school so it's worrisome. >> glenn: all right. for instance, a hedge fund like that. the hedge fund is unregulated. wild power with wild amounts of money. there was a pentagon report that came out recently that said that there are sovereign funds, or huge pools of wealth, that they have seen -- for instance, they almost collapsed on the last one there is an unexplained amount of wealth being sucked out of the system quickly. when we had our financial collapse. and somebody did a report for the pentagon and said that was unusual.

there is something wrong there. they think that was a test run. somebody was trying to collapse our system. and they haven't found them. they're still trying to do it. is this something that a hedge fund, the size of the one that you know could do? is there, is there something that we as americans should be looking for? any tell-tale signs or is this just something that is saying, well, they might be giving money to terrorists here. like that's not bad enough. they might be funneling money off to terrorists? >> this is what i'd say on that. i don't think there is evidence that particular hedge funds -- >> glenn: i'm talking generally. not that particular hedge fund. >> those who are promoting shariah financing, many have motivation to do. this cardawi hates america and they've said it, they've written it. they control a lot of money in the shariah complaint finance world. then you have iran. the largest shariah complaint financial institutions in the world are not the names we see

up here they're state controlled iranian banks. by far, iran has over twice as many shariah compliant assets under management as saudi arabia. so, these are people and inoue city tutions that are -- and institutions that are motivated to damage america in right circumstances. >> glenn: when we come back, i want to spend time on things that are happening in the united states. daniel, last week or two weeks ago, there was another judge that said you know what? shariah law applies here. this is suicide, america. wake up to it, next.

[ applause ] >> glenn: all right. this week i have been talking to you about the threat over in the middle east. i tell you, i believe -- well, let me ask you. how many people have been watching the show and feel that you feel comfortable at least that maybe america is heading down a path where we're on the wrong side in the

middle east? that is significant. how many people think that not necessarily by us, but israel is being set up. look at that. we are coddling our enemies at the very best now. we're helping them all over the world. one of the way it happens under the radar is with shariah law. it's a flet to america. daniel pike is with us, author of "militant islam reaches america." with us is chris holton, vice president at the center for security policy. it's amazing to me. we'll get into the 12th

imam. but five years ago before the economic meltdown started, i was very tuned in to what was happening in iran and the middle east. then we took our eye off the ball because america started to have so many problems under george w. bush and it just kept cascading. haven't been paying attention enough. i sit here now and say oh, my gosh, what have people been doing when america went back to sleep? shariah law is starting to ugly creep in america. >> people are so focused on terrorism, they don't pay attention to the insidious educational media, legal and political growth of radical islam in the west as a whole, the united states in particular. >> organization, i mean they are main streaming now, the muslim brotherhood.

our administration says nothing wrong with the muslim brotherhood do you agree with that? >> yeah. >> glenn: nothing wrong with it? >> do i agree with it? no. do i agree the administration is saying it? yeah. >> glenn: i know. that daniel i'm like what has happened. they've gotten you, man! >> i don't agree with that. >> glenn: yeah, okay. what about the organization in america that have been main streamed already by the last administration, care? >> great example. care was founded in 1994. as a stepchild of hamas. has undertaken to promote the ideas of the muslim brotherhood, the parent of hamas. in the united states. it does it aggressively, but it does it nonviolently. >> glenn: right. but it -- i you know, i'm a little, i'm always a little worried about any organization that fights hard to silence people it disagrees with.

>> it has. just felt it's not engaged in terrorism. a dirty organization. aggressive organization. and by and large accepted not so much by the government, which has queasy feelings about it. care's ability to get a story is remarkable. it holds a press conference and you have a story. >> you say the biggest concern of the creep of shariah is actually not polygamy. >> it's the deepest there are a lot of funds but to me, the deepest of all is the institution of marriage. not saying it's maintained but look at the mormons and the trouble they have polygamy. >> in jew -- in jew -- there

are people excommunicated as well. >> it's hard in the united states, there is no polygamy acceptable yet. i think it's coming. you can look at the other jurisdictions like the united kingdom. or ontario. >> it's legal in england? >> if it's contracted in a company where it's legal. a man and two wives and five children from morocco or india where it's legal. they arrive in britain or ontario and say we're here. then they go further and have different allocations for social welfare for the first and second wife and the third wife. if the man dies, then there are special provision for the wives. >> pick up chris' face here. so dead. that is so dead. >> that's profound i think. that is important. it's coming our way.

a few years ago a major fire and 11 people were killed. the families involved were polygamist families. covered like it was nothing out of the ordinary. the mayor went to visit them. all normal. >> where you would say that you bring in people who claim to be mormons and they're polygamists and the house burns down. my gosh, that is a story for a month. we're almost suicidal. >> the press is full of pieces about men saying i was raised in a polygamist household and it was wonderful. i had all the aunties around and i want it, too. the children love it and the wives love it. >> glenn: hang on a second. is there a guy in here who says man, if i could have two wives, it would be sweet!

anybody here? any takers? not that we don't cherish and love the one wife. i just can't imagine talking to one and then having -- from the other one. nuts. back in a second. show you disturbing tape from the middle east this week. and then we talk to the audience. in a second.   

i'm patti ann browne. outrage in afghanistan has turned deadly over a florida pastor's burning of the quran. at least seven people are dead and 20 were arrested in violent protests at the united nations office there. the libyan government is refusing to pull its troops out of various cities. this defies a term of the cease-fire presented by rebel forces. meanwhile, thousands turned

out for antigovernment protests in syria and jordan, and in yemen, a sit-in continued as participants prayed for the president's rule to end. the dow hit the highest point since summer of 2008, driven by low unemployment report. read more about the struggles in libya on foxnews.com. glenn beck returns in a moment. but first, chris wallace previews "special report." >> coming up, unemployment is down, but is the economy really improving? the fed reveals which banks got crisis loans. does aarp deserve the non-profit status? join me for "special report" now back to glenn. ♪ ♪ >> glenn: we're back with daniel and chris. and studio audience. talking a little bit about shariah life and what is coming. i want to spend a minute here with a tape that we've shown

you earlier in week. it's about the 12th imam. the 12th imam, seven years ago i started reading up on. daniel, have you read the hadif, chris? daniel you have read it, obviously. when i first started looking at this, i thought wow! this guy really looks like somebody went on opposite day and read john the revelator and read the book of revelation and say let's just make the story end the opposite way. the anti-christ by john the revelator seems to have a lot of the same earmarks that the 12th imam does. the video on the screen is a video made by the state of iran. that is saying that the 12th imam is here. the chaos is all part of his

return. first of all, do you agree with the take that it, he has a lot of the -- it's like opposite day with the bible? >> definitely, the quran plays off the bible. >> glenn: no, the hadif. the way he is described by the 12ersers he comes back and the moment that -- 12ers, he comes back and the world is washed in blood. chaotic. makes everybody submit. you don't, he chops your head off. the bare lels from the book of revelation to the 12th imam as they interpret it. he is the antichrist. have you heard that before? >> there is a technical term in islamic escotoloyg from the antichrist call tabej -- called etejab. >> glenn: no, no no. >> there are common features here. >> i'm saying that the roles are reversed. does anybody know what i'm talking about here? the roles are reversed.

what christian believes is the antichrist he has the earmarks of the 12th imam. the one they say isejal has all the earmarks of like, i don't know, us. >> i think the really important thing here is that ahmadinejad and a number of others, the highest level of the iranian government really believe this. that is of enormous importance. >> glenn: when ahmadinejad said this week in this tape that he has been selected by the 12th imam to be the ruler over iran, that destroys israel, i don't hear it reported anyplace, really no mainstream is on -- you don't see brian williams saying and looks like the 12th imam is going to crawl out of a well and come back. why?

>> it's implause to believe so many americans that it doesn't get reported. it is vividly important to leadership in irand and it shapes their policies. >> glenn: do you believe that ahmadinejad actually believes he has talked to the 12th imam? you do? >> absolutely. when he was mayor of tehran, he had the boulevards, the main thoroughfares widened so that the mahdi could come in and land. >> he'd have to have a big car. >> he believes it. >> glenn: do you believe he believes it that he has spoken to? >> i don't know if he has personally spoken to, but the 12th imam and end of days are imminent. >> his actions. >> will tasten it. when he says oh, ali, help me hasten the return of the promised one i'd like the ask both of you what does that mean to him?

>> ahmadinejad believes he needs to take action to haste then event. >> which would mean. >> i think of the iranian nuclear program when i think of that. and the possibility he could do something horrible. >> it's just chaos, isn't it? >> right. that's where the nuclear weapons come in. if you want to create chaos, win or lose, whatever that means, using nuclear weapons brings kay yot. i think that is part of the attraction of nuclear weapons. this is a tool to impose chaos like nothing else. >> glenn: i was made fun of by bringing up -- i don't know. i'm a christian and i don't know when jesus is coming back. i have a lot of jewish friends and i made a pack with them. both die, we get up to the pearly gates and the savior is there and he's like hey, i haven't been to earth yet. you vouch for me. i'm just about ready to go back, i'll vouch for you.

i have no idea when he is coming. it's a good idea to prepare. how many people are christian here? okay. i know this happens a lot of times. people say the postwill be right back. he just went to get a sandwich and stuff. how many people believe that this feels like a time you haven't experienced in your lifetime? that is disturbing. go to john in the front. go back to shariah. it's open to anything you guys want to talk about here. go ahead, john. >> my question is do you think that the application of shariah law in a u.s. court by american judge should be impeachable offense? >> i do. chris? >> i'm with you.

it's outrageous. it's happening ever more frequently. a couple weeks ago in florida, there was a notorious case in new jersey and bunch of cases that judges prepare for shariah and say between muslim and mosque, altercation or another circumstance, the shariah is our guide. >> glenn: hang on. before i -- maybe i'll ask how we can stop this. let me go to richard. where are you, richard? off great example here. >> is it similar to how the amish are treated in the courts? there is a separate judicial or separate disparity between amish law and say american law? >> there is -- what is acceptable is individuals can make agreements among themselves to follow a civil law that is different from the prevailing one. not offensive.

it doesn't contradict anything. these are done all the time. what is not acceptable is that the amish want their law to be applied to everyone else. that's what we're saying. they want their law, shariah, applied to everything. it's offensive. on the offense. it's aggressive. as mentioned before, both the archbishop of canterbury and the lord high justice in britain have endorsed this. well, britain is different from us, but not that different. not so implausible for it to happen here. >> glenn: back in just a second.

>> glenn: we're kind of having a refresher on some of the things happening to our country with shariah law and some things going on around the world. back with daniel and chris. i want to go to harry from connecticut. harry? >> glenn, the country of turkey is 99% muslim. to this day, the tush irk government has denied committing genocide against the minority christians in 1915 when 1.5 million were massacred. is this not an example, the first example in the 20th seventurery of jihad against christians? and shariah law, using shariah law? is this something we need to worry about if shariah law gains a foothold in america? >> glenn: who wants to take that one? daniel? >> i don't think i'd cause jihad as such. it was murderous, massacre.

it was genocide. i don't know if it was jihad as such. jihad, the point of jihad is spread the rule of islam. not to convert people. not just to kill people. but to spread the rule of islam. the rule and therefore the law of islam. the ottomom empire was already muslim there couldn't jihad in the ottoman empire. it wasn't technically possible. so it comes out of superiority of the muslims against non-muslims and the aggravations of war. i don't think technically speaking you can call it -- >> glenn: chris, help me out. daniel just said that shariah is for the spread of islamic rule. >> jihad. >> glenn: jihad is. right? >> right. >> glenn: okay. so then what is -- how does it

work with shariah finance? isn't it shariah, to spread to get everybody to live under islamic rule? >> shariah finance was a concept that was invented in the 1930s. which was supposed to insulate the muslim world from the west. now, we have the other side of the coin. they're using it in imperillistic way -- i have to take a break. but do you believe yes or no that the goal of islamist is to have a global caliphate? >> yes. >> definitely. >> glenn: yeah. okay. back in a second. [ applause ]   

>> glenn: ginette is in the front row of the audience. we were talking before the show started. she has a question. i would rather ask you a question. you've been watching the events of the world unfold recently.

i can't imagine how it must feel as a view seeing the radicals all start again, the communists and the socialists and the jihaddists. all around the world. but let me ask you this. in world war ii, jews had some place to run. i only have a couple of seconds do you feel there is some place that is protected? >> we used to think israel was it. but israel is also surrounded by -- >> glenn: everybody. >> -- the most powerful enemies. now the only friend that jews can at least count on so in longer in my opinion, no longer there. >> america, this is why i said this, this week. you have to know exactly what you're up against and what youy believe.

then check what side you're on. gold will not hold us unaccounted for. he will account for each one of us. i have don't believe in collective salvation. barack obama won't stand next to me at the judgment seat. you better figure out the difference between good and evil and stand up. i have can't imagine what it feels like to be a jew today. there has to be a safe haven. there should always been america. it should remain that way, and if it doesn't we're in more trouble than i thought we were in. i thought we were in a lot. back in a minute.

>> glenn: some of this is science. don't do this at home. >> way. pause that. now rewind. >> i have to see it again. >> did he just. >> yep. he is squirting whipped cream in his mouth while talking about redistribution of wealth. only on glenn's show. dvr it. you just can't make this stuff up. >> glenn: i want to thank you for watching this week. i want to thank you for listening. and being there. and actually trying to figure things out. i urge you to do your own homework. get involved and stand

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