libya, it's okeydokey. >> bret: who knew? thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair balanced unafr uconn and go bears. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight. >> the act of burning a koran is much, much more inflammatory than if you were to burn a bible. >> dozens killed in afghanistan after a florida nut burns the koran. and the media is now attempting to explain it. we'll have the latest on this very disturbing story. >> i have full faith and confidence in the military commission system to appropriately handle this case. >> bill: attorney general holder finally gives it up. khalid sheikh mohammed and other terrorists will be tried in front of the military. but why did president obama and holder waste so much time and money on their civilian trial

crusade? juan and mary katharine will analyze. >> bill: when am i going to get in your cabinet? >> you would be great. >> bill: automatic not going to be v.p. >> you are too soft to be secretary of defense. >> bill: bernie goldberg will take a look at a possible trump candidacy and the media's reaction to. >>it to the victor belong the spoils. >> bill: caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. more violence by fanatical muslims and insane christian. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. about two weeks ago a so-called pastor named tori jones burned the koran in florida. fox news and other media ignored it then president of afghanistan gave a speech saying that jones should be arrested.

that was all the nut j mullahs needed to whip up fringe elements in afghanistan. they took to the streets. murdering perhaps as many as 38 innocent people. reports are they even beheaded a few of them. of course, these people had nothing to do with the koran burning. that took place in florida. but the fanatical muslims in afghanistan couldn't care less. they wanted to kill so they killed. everyone involved in this story is disgusting. this terry jones idiot has blood on his hands. he had to know that tactic call muslims would go crazy. why are we supporting this guy. the muslim problem in the world is illustrated for all to see. reaction to the situation is interesting. general david petraeus is the commander in afghanistan. >> we condemn the action ofen an individual in the united states who burned a holy koran. that action was hateful it was intolerant, and it was extremely

disrespectful. >> bill: senator lindsey graham also weighed in. >> i wish we could find some way to hold people accountable. free speech is a great idea but we're in a war. during world war ii had you limits on what you could say if it would inspire the enemy. >> then there is the media listen to this exchange. >> if you are a muslim, the koran is directly the word of god. not written by man. it's transcribing directly the word of god. that makes it sacred in a way that it's hard to understand if you are not muslim. , to the act of burning a koran is much more, potentially much much more inflammable than if you were to burn a bible. >> directly attacking god. >> bill: it's ridiculous. the bible is a holy book, considered to be the word of god by christians and jews. but christians and jews don't slaughter innocent people when the bible is burned. do they? but it is karzai, karzai whom i hold most responsible. the book burner in florida is a

loon. karzai holds a position of responsibility. he had to know he was whipping up dangerous feelings when he addressed the issue. for what reason? politics? there is blood on your hands karzai. finally, talking points remains very dubious about the entire afghanistan culture. for 10 years the u.s.a. has tried to improve things in that country yet it is still barbaric in many ways. the question is how much longer can we continue to try to save the afghan people from themselves? and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight reaction. joining us from washington dr. michael o'hanlon an analyst at the brookings institution and dr. michael scheuer former cia guy and author of the new book "osama bin laden." dr. shroyer, are we at a point now where it's not worth staying in afghanistan anymore. >> way past the point bill. we have lost the war. the afghanistan people don't want us there. we're just in a bad position. mr. karzai's family is kept in power so it can run drugs

apparently. but most severely and most problematic at all young marines and soldiers are dying so that mrs. mohammed can vote in rigged parliament. absurd and obscene waste of young americans. >> bill: what happens though? because the united states presidents and the presidents of the british and some other nations have tamped down the violence and made it impossible tore the taliban to operate so they cantor temperature people and all of that, you know, at will. what happens if we do pull out of there? i mean, they reconstitute the taliban government. the al qaeda people come back in they do what they did before 9/11 there. all of the people who died their lives have been wasted. >> that question should be directed as mr. bush and mr. obama have ho have decided not to win the war because they want to win hearts and minds instead of killing america's enemy. >> bill: is it winnable? you would have to go in with a

meat cleaver and kill a lot of civilians. is it winnable? >> if you don't want to win sir, you don't go to war. >> bill: it's true but you do the scorched earth the russians tried that in afghanistan and they lost, too, with the scorched -- -- >> -- bill, they lost because they wanted to stay. the only mission in afghanistan was a 15-month punitive operation to kill as many as we could and get out with the knowledge we might have to do it again. >> bill: all right. now, mr. o'hanlon, you disagree with this but the essential question tonight is, when americans see rampaging afghans killing people because some loon in florida burned a koran and we say we are spending billions and billions of dollars and losing thousands of american lives to protect these people? what say you you? >> well, i hear you. and it's a complex thing. i have to say first of all it's not fair to call this strategy just that of president bush and president obama. general david petraeus and general stanley mcchrystal, two of the greatest warriors in our modern nation's history are very

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