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for everybody at moment. don't move. a lot more to come on the fox news channel. "happening now" starts now. johnsto.jon: our coverage contim ground zero, i'm jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. after almost ten years the most wanted terrorist, osama bin laden is dead. he was shot outside of his hideout in pakistan, the equivalent of west point. his body identified and buried at sea. president obama announcing the news last night promising celebrations outside the white house and in new york city where jon scott is. jon: the navy seal team was
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under control on this mission, and what a mission it was. they put a large red deceased banner under the photo of osama bin laden, leaving nine other highly souter reuss still on the list, including osama bin laden apartments chief deputy, we begin with jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. what is the latest from that building where you are? >> reporter: the latest we've learned what it was that caused to blackhawk 2 to actually crash at the compound. what happened was there wasn't enough air underneath the wings. as they were coming in the seal team that was being brought in, they were rappeling out of the helicopter, we are told there, was not enough lift under the helicopter for it to take off again. it came smashing down into the compound. no one was hurt but they had to
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a ban tkoepb iabandon it. it was because of the walls of the compound. there wasn't enough wind, they had to detonate explosives. that fire that you see at the compound was as a result of them having to blow up the blackhawk that was and i expected part of this raid. otherwise it went almost to plan. we understand that there were 24 seals involved. they made their way into the compound, they asked for a visual recognition. they saw a man who looked very much like osama bin laden. they said is that osama bin laden. one of the people on the scene said yes, that's him. he then was asked to surrender, resisted, and that's when they shot him in the head. they have visual evidence of this. they have a photograph that they are debating, the administration is debating when and if that photograph should be release he in order to put to rest that any
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notion that mr. osama bin laden had not been killed. we also are reporting that at 2:00am eastern osama bin laden's body was buried at sea. it was a sea burial. our understanding from u.s. officials is the plan was to do a burial off the u.s. s. carl vincent, that is the only aircraft carrier that the u.s. has in the regs and we have seen nothing to continue district that the plan went ahead. there has been no mention that the plan did not no all right. we do not have any confirmation in the ship at this time. we know it was the plan to bury him at see off the u.s. s. carl vincent. jon: there have been reports that the pakistanis have been interrogating members of the compound. >> reporter: there were three
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families at the compound, the osama bin laden family, and the two tu the couriers that were taking messages. this was eight times the size of other buildings in the area. these family members nobody was taken alive aboard the u.s. helicopters when they took off outside the compound after about 40 minutes. the raise lasted 40 minutes. i am told, those individuals who survived were taken out in a field, sent back away from the compound so when they exploded the blackhawk helicopter they would not are injured. the expectation was then that the pakistanis would move in they would be in the process of interrogating those people who would kwr- obviously be a very
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intelligence rich source of information in osama bin laden's days. jon: it was a absolutely flawless raid and our hats off to the seals who pulled it off. jenna: mid shipment at the u.s. naval academy ine in maryld erupting with cheers and chants. many of these future officers joined the military in response to the 9/11 attack. quite a night there for the naval academy. jon: my son called me from west point last night. he said this is the happiest university in america right now. i think the joy up there at west point was equal to that of the naval academy in annapolis. take a look at this picture just after the president broke the
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news that osama bin laden is dead. [cheering] cadets celebrating throwing glow sticks into the air and waiving massive americans flags. the cadets gathering together to sing the national anthem. jenna: usually we should mention the cadets have to be a little bit more orderly than that. a rare site at the academy. crowds gathered here at the very site where thousands of americans were killed on september 11th 2001. the scene now at the ground zero celebration. they are chanting usa, singing the american anthem. right now president obama is in the oval office meeting with senior advisers, the cia director says al-qaida will almost certainly try to avenge
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the death of osama bin laden. a crowd was celebrating outside the white house late last night as the president announced the terrorist leader is dead. wendell goler is live at the white house. why do officials anticipate a reprisal attack and what exactly are they looking for? >> reporter: well, i'm not sure if anticipate is the word. they say there is no evidence yesterday, but they would not be surprised if al-qaida similar ps would want too a venge his debt. they issued a travel alert for americans in pakistan. there is a heightened alert in pakistan. the president said osama bin laden's death was the most significant achievement to date to defeat al-qaida.
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>> over the years i made it clear we would take action within pakistan if we knew where osama bin laden was. that is what was done. it's important to know that our counterterrorism cooperation with pakistan helped utss to be led to osama bin laden and where he was hiding. >> reporter: it's significance that zaharia had not been told of the mission before. jake carney's briefing has been moved from 1:00 to 1:45. he will include some of the president's national security team in in a praoefg. we'll get more information then, jenna. jenna: we heard from secretary of state hillary clinton. what stands out to you about her comments this morning? >> reporter: well secretary clinton of course as a former new york senator lost more constituents than many other elected officials in the 9/11 attacks. she said she hoped that osama bin laden's death brought -- was
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a comfort, that justice had been served, not only to the people of new york, new jersey, but to people who lost loved ones in london and bali and the attacks on the u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania. she says his killing sends a message to the taliban. >> you cannot wait us out. you cannot defeat us, but you can make the choice to abandon al-qaida and participate in a peaceful, political process. >> reporter: mrs. linton says the u.s. will don't it's counterterrorism cooperation with other countries including pakistan. jenna: thank you very much for the update. wendell goler live at white house today, jon. jon: a top al-qaida come even tearer now threatens revenge for the death of osama bin laden.
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the individual goes by the online name assad alghaid2. joining us now is tony shaffer. he has been deployed to afghanistan a number of times. tony, just in terms of the big picture how does osama bin laden's death change in any way our military approach if at all. >> this is like halftime. i think we are going to clearly see the game change. al-qaida has been successful in franchising itself and fox has been at the forefront of reporting on anwar al-awlaki. you'll see a lot more franchising at a local level. not the strategic level of baud baud and company. they will be much more focused on things like trying to survive
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in yemen than having 9/11 attacks. they'll have individuals influenced rather than led by al-qaida. jon: obviously nothing succeeds like success. if you have the guy gone now it has to be a mental blow to his supporters. you've seen the video of the mental thinking of our troops at west point and other places. this is a huge left. >> what you said about the navy seals, don't forget these were army helicopters going in there. this is much like the dolittle raid in world war 2 hroepl roam. jonii pakistan has to take this as a clear shot
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across the bow. there is no way the pakistanis didn't know he was there. we have to look very hard to figure out how to deal with this global threat from now on. jon: the united states has been fairly circumspect. president obama's didn't blast the pakistanis but he didn't go out of the way to praise them either. how do we treat them going forward. >> i think they would have been taking a lot of credit if they were fully involved in this and they weren't. we have -- the president talked about this. the real issue has been pakistan. i would argue it's been pakistan since 2002 since we first pushed the taliban out of afghanistan into pakistan. what is in our best national interests? is it slugging it out with the taliban in afghanistan or is it looking much more realistically at what the pakista pakistanis g
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to help us. we have to take this very seriously. we have to find out why we are spending billions to help the pakistanis when there's been no clear return on our investment. jon: tony shaffer from the center of advanced studies, a man who has spent a considerable amount of time in afghanistan. jenna: the bush administration sent years pursuing hraupbd osan laden. we are getting new information minute by minute. you can keep up by logging onto foxnews.com your other news source. we'll see you rightafter the break. osama bin laden .
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jenna: the killing of the world's top terrorist, those who have been targeting osama bin
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laden since the attacks of 9/11 reacting to his death now. former president george w. bush saying earlier this evening president obama called to inform me that american forces killed osama bin laden the leader of the al-qaida network that attacked america on september 11th 2001. i congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. they have our every lasting gratitude. the death of osama bin laden at the hands of american forcers is a victory for the united states and is a tremendous achievement for our military to what are read out this mission. i want to congratulate president obama and the members of his national security team. karl rove was an adviser to george w. bush and a fox news contractor.
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have you spoken to president bush. >> we've been e-mailing back and forth. he takes tried in our military and our operators. this is a great moment for our country. i thought it was interesting that both president bush and president obama used the same words. he said whether we bring our even knees to justice or justice to our even knees justice will be done. and last night press said justice has been done. jenna: since you were such a part of history what was your reaction to the news when you heard it? >> i had toee limit a lot of jumbled up emotions. enormous pride. i've got even to know our navy seal operators over the years and the army chopper pilots, some who got saddam hussein. our skilled opensers, who are so involved in this. i had a sweet taste of revenge.
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i know that is the christian thing to feel. this is a butcher, a madman who attacked our country and i'm glad he's rotting in hell which is exact where i think he is this morning. i'm also a little anxious. you immediately begin to think what happened next. he new he might be captured and prepared a leadership structure that would be able to survive his death and probably left in place the incentive for the organization. there is a natural incentive for a organization like al-qaida is the loss of a leader does not end exexistence. press receives a lot of praise for the steal leeway he handled this. he and his national security team are to be commanded. now we reach a moment where the american people might conclude, the war in terror is over, we don't need to be in gans. i thought secretary of state
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hillary clinton did a remarkable job to help the american people understand that this is an important victory from an ongoing struggle. and we must not and cannot step back from the struggle. jenna: that is an interesting point. one chapter is closed yet the story is not over when it comes to the war on terror. since hunting down and killing osama bin laden was such a part of the
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jenna: the f.b.i. updating its list of most wanted terrorists, putting a big red and white deceased level on osama bin laden's picture. but the terror leader's death isn't the end of al-qaida. his second in command is expected to take over amid new warnings al-qaida will try to a srepbg the death of its founder. peter brooks is a former cia operations officer. author and fellow at the heritage foundation. peter are we safer than we were yesterday? >> that's an interesting question. i think we are but we are still not safe. one of the things we really have to worry about is complacency. it's a great day today in
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bringing justice to osama bin laden but there are still terrorist organizations out there, including al-qaida and other affiliates that want to do us harm. we can exhail for a moment but we cannot rest on ou our laurel. let me read you some news. officials say cia interrogator in secret overseas prisons developed the first strands of information that ultimately led to the killing of osama bin laden. these secret prisons have certainly been criticized by many lawmakers. your reaction to that headline. >> it's important we don't know the final store row on that it. shows you how important this intelligence is. it probably came from a number of different direction, perhaps from overseas partners and the pakistanis and it led to this point. it shows you how information intelligence is. once again we need to be reminded even though they are a very secret service that
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intelligence is our first line ever defense and it's going to be important in the days to come ago the taliban speps up it's spring offensive, al-qaida tries to show that it's still viable and other groups like skaoeud in the a rabe bee yan peninsula try to carry out attacks against the united states. jenna: what can you tell us about the quote on quote second in command, the one that we are watching next. who is basically based in -- >> he's more active than osama bin laden has been in these days. hopefully we'll get information from this compound where osama bin laden was found. he's likely to step up. he's an egyptian with osama bin laden for a longtime, he's been active and outspoken about what al-qaida should do. he's dangerous. this is just one core. we also need to be al-qaida in
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the arabian peninsula, we'll have to see who steps up. they'll probably have to do something to prove they are a viable organization after the loss of their iconic evil leader osama bin laden. jenna: that is scary to hear, peter. >> that's the reason, jenna we cannot be complacent about what is going on out there. the war in afghanistan is not finished and the war against al-qaida is not finished. there are many, many threats. complacency is the biggest even nias the terrorists. jenna: peter brooks, thank you. jon: well the blow back may be coming, and explosion near a pakistani mosque could be the first revenge attack by osama bin laden supporters. a live report on the situation inside pakistan, plus a look at the efforts to increase vigilance here in the united states as police in major cities
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jenna: the pakistani taliban threatening new attacks in revenge of osama bin laden's death. people killed in a mosque four hours after osama bin laden was killed. no one claiming responsibility for this attack, but it could be
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the beginning of reprisals for the terrorist' death. sid, what is the reaction. >> the most wanted man on the planet, no reaction. the same jubilent action in the ud is not being shared here in pakistan, why? because the moderate task is simply too scared. many are still not convinced that osama bin laden is death, others not expressive on hearing that he has died. but we are -- there are some people who are saying, why should we be happy? osama bin laden was against america and so are we. but the government, the prime minister ghalani has said osama bin laden death is a great victory. opposition parties are targeting the government and say how tkoed the leadership allow the ud to operate on pakistani soil. jenna: do we have any information when osama bin laden traveled to pakistan.
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>> owofficially we don't have ay information on how and when he got into pakistan when he traveled. one of the sourc sources was sat was rented out five years ago under the false pretext of a warehouse. that probably doesn't mean that osama bin laden was in pakistan. osama bin laden was on the move after the spring offensive, he was trying to enhance coordination of fighters. it's also reported that he met leading taliban leaders. that mobility probably made him visible on the cia radar. cthey shared information that successfully called al-qaida number one, jen a. jenna: thank you very much.
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>> al-qaida is going to be off its game. they will recoup quickly enough. we have to move quickly to take advantage of this temporary confusion with al-qaida. we have to be on our guard, they have suffered a massive defeat and al-qaida is going to want to avenge this as quickly as they possible can. i know the intelligence agencies in our country, the local police, the joint terrorism task forces, f.b.i., all of them they are looking at any possible, any possible attack that al-qaida could be making against us. they want to avenge this -- jon: that is congressman peter king republican of new york who heads the house homeland security committee. the spy agency says al-qaida will almost certainly try to retaliate for the killing of osama bin laden. the terror leader went down in a blaze of gunfire from elite u.s.
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military forces who offered them a chance to surrender. this is triggering new security members in this country right now. the new york police department ram -plg up patrols in areas. while the l.a.p.d. is keeping an extra close eye throughout that city. what should we expect and how do we stay safe? mike barrett is the former director of strategy for the white house homeland security council under george w. bush, also a former intelligence officer for defense secretary donald rumsfeld. and mike, this is absolutely an intelligence victory of the first order. >> oh, absolutely. military and intelligent community they get up every single morning looking and trying to find osama bin laden for ten years. hats off to them, well done, tremendous victory. it shows that it takes persistence, tremendous training, an expenditure of tremendous money and some of the best people in the world and that's what we have on our side thank god protecting us. jon: tra staoepblg i can lee though it doesn't alter the
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equation. al-qaida is still out there. we've taken out one man, the head of the snake but the snake still lives. >> there's three issues to look like. domestically there are a lot of tkhres particular threats from radicals and small kind of am ma thaour attacks since we've seen since 9/11. everyone domestically, person population should be on the look out for that. report it the authorities. overseas you've got americans all across the world that really need to be careful about their own personal safety, and physical security, because, you know, any american anywhere is a target, that is the reality. then there is the mass spectacular attacks like we saw on nine. that again is where the intelligence community and the military come into play, that is what they are trying to prevent, the big attacks. jon: interesting while he was hiding out in the compound in pakistan the revolution that he was trying to harness was really
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going on without him. i mean fait facebook and twittee contributing to tunes tunisia, libya and egypt than he did. >> nobody really knows howie egypt will turn out ye or yemen. ultimately what matter is is what happens two years from now, four years from now. we can't be complacent and say, they will these are democracy movements everything is going to work out well. we have to keep an eye on things and make sure our interests are protected which includes finding and killing people like osama bin laden. jon: mike barrett was director of the homeland security council
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under george w. bush. mike thank you for your insight. jenna: as we focus so much on the death of one man today, we should remember thousands lost their lives in our nation's capitol, in a field in pennsylvania, and the world trade center in new york city. losing 300 and 43 pwaeuf souls. the news of osama bin laden's death hopefully bringing closure to the friend and family and colleagues of those lost. jaime colby its following this story. she is at engine 54. >> reporter: i'm so glad that you're taking time to remember those. because the feelings at the fire houses around the city today are mixed. they are very happy that osama bin laden is gone, that the families get some sense of relief, but it's a time that they are remembering their brothers, those that they lost. as you said 343 firefighters in new york city lost their lives. just to put it in perspective that compares to only 23nypd
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officers, of course one loss was too many. today there are a lot of memories, particularly at this fire house. you can see gathered behind me lots of people have come here, this is engine 54, ladder 4, battalion 9. the reason is they lost the most, they lost 15 firefighters on september 11. everywhere you look here you see a reminder, not only that they remain at the ready, they have certain relics, certain things that remind them of those that they loved or that they lost h. in particular one, i was actually allowed to go inside. they are not allowing anyone. but they did allow fox to go inside and see this mow men toefplt it's a table which actually has inscribed the motto here, which is never missed a performance. the reason for the motto is they are located in the broadway theater district. they have akin ship. they take a lot of the theaters, and a lot of the restaurants and celebrities that live in this area. this fire house date back to
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1898. they recently updated that table in tribute to their brothers that they lost that day and we appreciate that the chief allowed us to see it. what they won't allow you to see but what i did see there is a white assignment board hapb handgun inside right behind me in the fire house that has the assignments of those that were lost that day. they just don't have the heart to wipe that board off, to take their names away. so it still stands. the fire commissioner did speak out after osama bin laden, the news of his death was made public and here is what he had to say in fire houses throughout the city our members are grateful for the news and thankful to all the brave members of the u.s. military that had a role in this successful operation. just to let you know it's not just firefighters here at this house, there are many million tire rereserve officers that serve in the fire department, and many of them have served in afghanistan. some of them at this house. actually helicopter pilots that
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go in and do rescue operations, just like they do every single day here in new york city, jenna. jenna: we remember so much special speak on this day, jaime. thank you for that special look inside engine 54 in midtown manhatten. jaime colby thank you. jon: the death of osama bin laden welcome news to all americans. many of them are down here at new york's ground zero expressing their gratitude to the military and the cia. how is the rest of the world reacting? a live report from london coming up. plus near low a decade after the loss of their loved ones the families of the victims of that terrible day speak out about this historic event. [singing] with acs against heart attack or stroke: people like you. it's one of the most researched prescription medicines.
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jon: the death of osama bin laden at the hands of u.s. special forces. the news causing spontaneous celebrations on the streets of washington d.c., new york city, philadelphia, boston, and cities
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all across the united states. how is the rest of the world reacting? amy kellogg is tracking the story live from our london bureau. amy, i know you spoke to former pakistani press pervez musharraf. >> reporter: some of the things he said echoed what our man in islamabad, sid casey said, they want to see some kind of proof that osama bin laden has been killed. i know that the owe the obama administration is saying the dna was perfect. some say osama bin laden had nothing to do with 9/11 in the first place. they want some kind of proof, what it will take, what it will be they are not sure. he also mentioned that the pakistani taliban will remain a big problem. he says the taliban in pakistan
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is more violent than al-qaida, osama bin laden's bunch. he's sure there will be fallout in the wake of his death and extremism won't be necessarily put to rest. he speaks about a violation of pakistani sovereignty because of the fact that u.s. forces took outlawed laud. overall he said it's a very good days, it's very important that pakistan and the united states, um number one even knee of osama bin laden is now dead, jon. jon: thank you, amy. jenna: it took ten years to hunt down on kill osama bin laden. finally, finally, hopefully some just fisjustice for his victims. jaime bandaras has the story. >> reporter: they lost brothers, sons daughters and mothers. families have come full circle over the past decade over the tragic deaths of their loved ones. for the very first time some are experiencing closure.
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take jack collis, he's the husband of lauren grant collis who died. and a firefighter who died when the tower collapsed. these are just a few who find comfort in nothing that the terrorist died. >> i want to thank those who are vigilant on behalf of lauren and our unborn child and all loss that day and everyone loss to a terrorist act. >> it may have taken almost ten years but you know what justice has been served and it will continue to be served. >> i would say, we did it, chris, america did it. i know you're as proud of all the soldiers as i am, and rest in peace dear son, you know, rest in peace, and know that i love you forever, and ever.
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>> reporter: maureen's son was one of 133 new york firefighters who perished trying to save others when the twin towers fell. though the horror of the tragedy cannot be erased. gordon felt released the following statement upon hearing the news and i quote. this is important news for us and for the world. it cannot ease our pain or bring become our loved ones. it does bring a measure of comfort that the mastermind of the september 11th tragedy and the face of global terror can no longer spread his evil. i think the families agreed on one thing, as a nation we delivered. while osama bin laden's death doesn't bring back the nearly 3,000 souls on 9/11 underneath profound sadness and tears today a definite sense of relief. jenna: so many mixed emotions, jewel lease, thank you. jon: we are learning more about this daring mission to kill osama bin laden.
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new information on what happened inside the pakistani compound. words of his death were reported in a 15 word message on twitter. what that message said by a staffer on twitter coming up. 8
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jenna: fox news alert, new details on the death of osama bin laden and the hours afterwards. this coming from our pen producer about again the final moments for osama bin laden. apparently he did resist during the firefight, and also this news coming out about his burial. jennifer griffin told us at the top of the hour this took place on the u.s. s. carl vincent aircraft, we are now confirming that as per senior u.s. military and intelligence officials. apparently osama bin laden was buried in accordance with islamic practice. he was washed and wrapped in a white sheet before i can buried
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at sea. we believe the timing is around roughly 2:00am east coast time. more information as we get it. again on the final moments of osama bin laden as well as his burial. as you know we have news breaking just every minute on the death of this man. the terrorist leader taken out by a team of navy seals in pakistan last night. the stunning news, though didn't come from a major media company, it came from a sweet. shabani joshi has store details. >> reporter: the word of osama bin laden's death coming well before president obama making the address last night. it came out on the web and on a tweet halfway across the world. let me go through the timeline of how everything unfolded yesterday. it started with a tweet in pack san around 4:30 eastern time yesterday by the name of at really virtual. he describes himself as a 33-year-old it professional that is located about two to three
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kilometers away from the attacks. he started tweeting about 4:30. helicopter hovering over abbottabad is a rare event. i hope this is not the start of something nasty. 9:45 eastern time p.m. that is the first time the white house got on twit erin forming us the president would be speaking that. even before the president took to the stage we had a good idea of what he would be talking about as we heard from keith urban a former white house staffer, he of course was a normer chief of staff for former defense secretary donald rumsfeld and he sweeted this even and hour before the president took the stage. he said, quote so i'm told by a reputable person they have killed osama bin laden. hot dam. he also went onto say, don't know if this is true but let's pray that it is. as i mentioned within an hour president obama confirming those details leaked on twitter.
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jenna yet another example of new twitter is getting involved in the global storytelling of so many events that are hang this day. jenna: it wasn't around at 9/11 and now this as we continue to watch the developments. thank you so much. jon back to you at ground zero. jon: supplemental to that report we are getting more details on the operation that killed can osama bin laden. how u.s. forces identified the terror leader inside his hideout. that's straight ahead. 
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jenna: american justice. osama bin laden finally dead. everybody, glad you're with us, i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott at ground zero in lower manhattan. a fitting end to the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, osama bin laden, killed by gun shot to the head, after resisting. u.s. special forces, score ago huge victory in the war on terror, carrying out a mission to capture or kill the al-qaeda leader, hiding in a fortified compound, deep inside pakistan, his
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identity now confirmed by dna tests. bin laden's location, discovered by tracking a trusted courier. national correspondent catherine herridge live for us in washington. what new information are we learning this morning about the intelligence that led to the compound catherine? >> reporter: well, first, jon, want to begin with new information, we've come off a conference call with military and intelligence officials and they've given us more detail, more granularity with what happened on that compound in pakistan, it was osama bin laden's wife who identified him to special forces and after that i was told according to a official that a u.s. navy seal recognized bin laden, that he did not appear ravaged or sort of lacking from nutrition after nine years on the run and had been living quite well, bin laden was then shot and the navy seal went about the
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process of collecting other materials to make a confirmation on the identity. i was told that the facial recognitions were done, a fancy way of saying that the seal gathered information about the nose, the mouth, the ears, many people don't realize that the ear is as individual or distinguishable as your fingerprint. also, his height, all of this could be matched against a data base held by the u.s. intelligence community and that final piece, sort of the gold standard for identification, which was the dna testing. and as you know in the last hour, we have confirmation that it was 99.9%, jon. jon: what about the terror alert stat snus we've done away i guess from the color-coded system but is there any word on whether they plan to change things as a result of this? >> reporter: what's clear to me is that we're in a very fluid situation and late last night, an alert, if you want to say, or sort of warning, was sent out by homeland security which talked about the potential for retaliatory strikes,
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after bin laden's death. there was nothing specific but talks about affill thes yaik -- affiliates in yemen, somalia, as well as loan grown individuals, lone wolf cell attacks launched in retaliation for the death. while we've got the video of the compound on the screen i want to talk a little about what i think is the most interesting part of this story, which is the intelligence that led to that compound in pakistan. what i was told by an official who's familiar with the intelligence and also a congressional source who's been briefed is that the foundational piece of intelligence that led to the identification of the compound came from the interrogation of guantanamo detainees. the important thing here is that the courier, the name of the courier, was something, and the identity was something only known to a very small group within al-qaeda and i was told by a senior u.s. official this person was known as a protogee of khalid sheikh
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mohammed and trusted friend of abu faraaj al ibi, captured in pakistan in '\on/zero #- '07 and transferred to guantanamo bay, it was information that was pulled about the courier from detainees, the sort of pieces that came together about the connection to the inner circle which gave the u.s. intelligence community a name to work with. this was not the actual name. it was an alias or nom diguera, taking that information and complementing it with information i'm told had been gathered in afghanistan, also in pakistan, but even more significantly, some intelligence which the u.s. had in its possession almost immediately after 9/11, the '02, '03 time frame when we started to have the big pickups for al-qaeda leadership, all this came together in this mosaic to paint a picture of who this courier was and it was once they had the real identity they were able to identify
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that compound in pakistan and the important thing about this compound is that it really took, i would argue, eight years of intelligence work to create that picture or that mosaic, which allowed them to identify this person and the compound and it was last august, i was told, that the compound was identified in pakistan and then they started building the picture as to who may be in the compound, and what we now know is there were two curriers -- brothers, both had been couriers and the third person was osama bin laden, a wife, and one of his adolt children, jon. jon: an absolutely fabulous work done by the cia, the nsa and other agencies, as well as the u.s. military, obviously. catherine herridge, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jenna: the cia director leanne panetta saying al-qaeda will almost certainly try to avenge bin laden's death. despite this, homeland security secretary janet napolitano as catherine and jon were discussing says there are no plans to raise
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the terror alert. u.s. intelligence officials stepping up patrols near mosques and airports and embassies as well. former congresswoman jane harman helped spearhead the response to the 9/11 attacks as ranking member of the subcommittee on terrorism and homeland security and joins me now. congresswoman, your reaction to the news today. >> i had a long-scheduled breakfast this morning with the director of national intelligence, jim clapper, who was obviously very tired, and we agreed that the capabilities that we brought to this evolved over three presidencies and all deserve credit, and reflect the reforms we did in 2004, when congress passed the massive intelligence reform act, and that led us, used all of the different agencies that have just been named in your excellent reporting to go after the identity of these couriers, to find their locations, to target this location in a variety of ways, and to take out osama bin laden yesterday. it's a huge victory for our
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intelligence capability and specifically, the people who did this task, and i just want to say congratulations again to them for the work that they've done. jenna: congresswoman, we're going to discuss this more. we're just watching the president walking in, he is in the middle of a ceremony that he is attending today and we want to listen in quickly as we watch the president take the podium in just a moment. we expect him to make some comment, obviously, about the events of the last 24 hours. again, the president, up very late last night, addressing the nation, around 11:30 eastern time, announcing the death of osama bin laden. again, two medals of honor going to be awarded here today, the president and first lady in attendance. looks like we're experiencing here an opening prayer. we're going to take a quick fln and wait for the president to make comments. >> -- onslaught and save the
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lives of fellow soldiers. they led from the front and loved beyond measure on portraying the ultimate act of selfless service. oh god, remind us our nation has risen to a true greatness on the shoulder of americans like anthony heandry, may this ceremony serve to reinforce our awareness as a nation that our country's way of life and our freedom is a priceless inheritance, one with commitment and sacrifice of those who have selflessly paid for our freedom with their blood. may your blessings be upon the families of henny and anthony who have given their loved ones to that nation and kept their memoryies alive for this very moment, by your grace may we never forget their sacrifice. in your holy name. amen. >> amen. >> good morning, everybody. please be seated. on behalf michelle and
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myself, welcome to the white house. to our many guests from hawaii, aloha. and thank you, chaplain carver, for that wonderful invocation. i think we can all agree this is a good day for america. our country has kept its commitment to see that justice is done, the world is safer, it is a better place because of the death of osama bin laden. today, we are reminded that as a nation, there's nothing we can't do when we put our shoulders to the wheel, when we work together, when we remember the sense of -- the sense of unity that defines us as americans. and we've seen that spirit, that patriotism in the crowds that have gathered here outside the white house, ground zero in new
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york, and across the country, people holding candles, waving the flag, singing the national anthem, people proud to live in the united states of america. and we're reminded that we are fortunate to have americans who dedicate their lives to protecting ours. they volunteer, they train, they endure separation from their families, they take extraordinary risks so that we can be safe. they get the job done. we may not always know their names. we may not always know their stories. but they are there. every day. on the front lines of freedom. and we are truly blessed. i do want to acknowledge before we begin this ceremony two individuals who have been critical as part of my team who are here today. first of all, i think
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somebody who will go down as one of the finest seconds in our history, secretary bob gates, who is here. [applause] >> -- secretaries of defense in our history, secretary bob gates, who is here. [applause] >> and sitting beside him, someone who served with incredible valor on behalf of this country and is now somebody who i think will go down as one of the greatest secretaries of veterans affairs in our history, eric shenseki. [applause] >> now, i have to say that as commander in chief, i could not be prouder of our men and women in uniform.
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that is true now in today's wars. it has been true in all of our wars. and it is why we are here today. long ago, a poet of the first world war wrote of the sacrifice of young soldiers in war. they shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old. age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. that the going down of the sun in the morning, we -- at the going down of the sun and in the morning we shall remember them. today we are joined by two american families who six decades ago gave your nation one of their own. private first class henry svalia and private first class anthony cole
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hanlanalan. they did not grow old, these two soldiers made the ultimate sacrifice when they were just 19 and 21 years old. age did not weary them in the hearts of their families, they remain forever young, loving sons, protective brothers, hometown kids who stood tall in america's home town. in america's uniform. today, we remember them. and we honor them with the highest military decoration that our nation can bestow, the medal of honor. in doing so, we also honor their families who remind us that it is our extraordinary military families who also bear the heavy burden of war we are joined by members of congress who are here, we are very grateful for you. we are also joined by leaders from the army and
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armed forces, including chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen and vice chairman, general jim haas cart wright -- cartwright. there they are there. [applause] >> this is not in the script, but let me just acknowledge that without the leadership of bob gates, mike mullen, haas cartright g wright, today and yesterday would not have happened and their steadiness and leadership has been extraordinary. i could not be prouder of them and i'm so grateful they have been part of our team. so -- >> [applause] >> i especially want to welcome some of those who fought so bravely 60 years ago, our inspiring korean
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veterans, korean war veterans who have made the trip here and i also want to acknowledge those who are welcoming two more american heroes into our ranks, members of the medal honor society. thank you very much for your service. [applause] >> >> this past november, i paid a visit to south korea, i visited -- a visit that's coincided with the 60th anniversary of the start of the korean war, as well as november 11th, veterans day, and i was privileged to spend part of the day with our troops and with dozens of veterans of the korean war. members of a generation who in the words of their memorial here in washington, fought for a country they never knew and a people they never met. it was a generation that
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included private first class anthony cole hanono, tony grew nup hawaii, in maui, he learned early we have a duty to others from his father, a dedicated police officer and his mother, who devoted herself to their nine children. tony was a tall guy, he loved hawaii, swimming in the ocean, playing basketball, sounds like my kind of guy. [laughter] >> his siblings remember him as the big brother, quiet, but strong. who took care of them. stood up for them in the neighborhood, and would treat them to ice cream. tony's loyalty to family was matched by his love of country. even though hawaii wasn't even a state yet. by september 1951 the korean war had been raging for more than a year and tonies part
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of the 17th infantry regimen, 17th infantry division which had been fight for strategic hills that could change the course of the war. his squad was near a village called chupery when they came under fer on or about us attack, with the an me advancing, utnumberred, tony made a decision, he ordered his squad to fall back and seek cover, then tony did something else, he stayed behind and machine gun in hand, he laid down fire so his men could get to safety. he was one american soldier, alone, guess an approaching army. when tony was wounded in the shoulder, he fought on. he threw a gren -- threw grenade after grenade. when his weapon ran out of ammunition, he grabbed another. and when he ran out of ammo, he reached for the only thing left, a shovel.
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that's when the enemy overran his position. and in those final moments, the combat was hand to hand. it was that bravery, that courage of a single soldier that inspired his men to regroup, to rally, and to drive the enemy back. and when they finally reached tony's position, the measure of his valor became clear. after firing so many bullets from the barrel of his machine gun was literally bent, but tony had stood his ground, he had saved the lives of his men. after his death, tony was awarded the army's second highest award for valor, the distinguished service cross. but his family felt he deserved more. and so did senator and world wod war ii ii danny acaca. we're honored that senator acaca has joined us, as well as mazie, corona, and
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obviously, we are extraordinarily grateful that we're joined by another senator and a medal of honoree cipient, danny moyer. thank you very much for your presence. [applause] >> now, hawaii is a small state, but the kowanos are a very big family. in fact i went to high school with one of their cousins. this is a remarkable family. service defines them. tony's father and all six sons served in the military. another member of the family that served in afghanistan. nearly 30 members of the family have traveled from
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hawaii to be here, including tony's sister elaine and brother eugene, for the sacrifice that your family endured, for the service that your family has rendered, thank you so much. [speaking in native tongue] >> i would ask that you all join me in elwith him -- in welcoming tony's nephew, george, who worked for so many years to get his uncle the honor he deserved. george. [applause] >> >> plen applause] >> the president of the united states of america, authorized by act of congress, march third, 1863,
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has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to private first class anthony t.kaho ahanano, for gallantry at the risk of his life above andon the call of duty, anthony t.kahu atanotohu, seventh infantry division distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism in the vicinity of chupari, korea, on one september, 1951, on that date, private first class kahu anhananu was in charge of machine gun squadron when a superior enemy force launched his attack. because of the over jem -- overwith himming numbers friendly troops were forced to execute a limited withdrawal. as the men fell back, private clirs faso first class ordered his squad to
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take up more defensible positions and provide covering fire for the withdraw of friendly force. although having been wounded in the shoulder during the initial enemy assault private clirs class -- first class gathered grenades and ammunition and returned to his original position to face the enemy alone. as the hostile troops concentrated their strengths agaves their emplacement, 51st -- private first class fought fiercely and occur courageous courageously delivering deadly fire into the ranks of the enemy. when he was depleted he engaged the enemy in hand to hand combat until killed. private first class so inspired his comrades they launched a counterattack that completely repulse dollars the enemy. upon reaching private first class' emplacement friendly troops discovered 11 enemy soldiers lying dead in front of the emplacement and two
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inside it, killed in hand to hand combat. private first class kahu ananahahu's duty are in keeping with the traditions of military service and reflect great credit on himself, the seventh infantry division and united states army. [applause] >>
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>> about the time that tony was inspiring his men, another young soldier was joining up with the seventh infantry division in korea, private first class henry svala, he grew nup new jersey he loved fishing on the jerszy shore, he was one of six kids, and the youngest son, but the one who seemed to take care of everybody else. his sister dorothy remembers how her mom would be in the kitchen at the end of a long day trying to cook dinner for six kids, henry, a teenager would walk in, grab his mother's hand and dance her around the kitchen. if anybody needed him, said dorothy, henry was there. and he was this for america, in korea, as the war neared its third and final year. henry knew the dangers, and
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in one of his last letters home he wrote i may not return. that june of 1952, the heat was unbearable, the man soon rains and mosquitoes were relentless, but the seventh infantry division pushed on, probing enemy lines, fighting bunker by bunker, hill by hill. and as henry and his company neared the top of one hill, the rocky slopes seemed to explode with enemy fire. his unit started to falter and that's when henry made his move. he stood up, he looked ahead, and he charged forward into a hail of bullets. those who were there described how he kept firing his weapon, kept hurling grenades and how even after being wounded in the face he refused medical attention and kept leading the charge. that's when an enemy grenade landed among his men. every human instinct, every
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impulls, would tell a person to turn away. but at that critical moment, henry svala did the opposite he threw himself on that grenade. and with his sacrifice, he saved the lives of his fellow soldiers. henry svala's body has never been recovered. that's a wound in the heart of his family that has never been fully healed. it's also a reminder that as a nation, we must never forget those who didn't come home, or are missing in action, who are taken prisoner of war. we must never stop trying to bring them back to their families. henry was awarded the distinguished service cross, but his family believed that he had earned this nation's highest military honor. they contacted their congressman and his staff who made it their mission, and we thank representative bill pescrall for making
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this day possible. henry's parents and brother did not live to see this day, but two of his sisters, dorothy and sylvia, are with us. dorothy, sylvia, you remind us that behind every american who wears our nation's uniform stands a family who serves with them. and behind every american who lays down their life for our country is a family who mourns them. and honors them. for the rest of their lives. every day, for nearly 60 years, you have lived the poet's words, that the going down of the sun and in the morning, we will remember them. and so i want to conclude today by inviting everyone to join me in welcomeing henry's sister dorothy to the stage for the presentation of the medal. [applause] >>
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>> the president of the united states, authorized by act of congress, march third, 1863, has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to private first class henry svala, united states army, the conspicuous gallantry and trepidity upon the call of duty, private first class henry svala distinguished himself by acts of gallantry and intrepidity beyond the call of dual while serving with f company, 32nd regiment, seventh infantry division in connection with combat operations against an army enemy in pyanangi, korea, that afternoon, while private first class sval. a and his platoon were on a
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hill, they were subjected to intense enemy automatic weapons and small arms fire at the top of the hill. coming under heavy fire, the platoon's attack began to falter. realizing the successful mission and safety of the remaining troops were in peril private first clat svala leapt to his feet and charged enemy positions, firing grenades as he advanced. in the face of this couragage and determination the platoon attacked with vigor. private first class svala, utterly disregard his own safety, destroyed enemy positions and when segments from a mortar round exploded nearby seriously wounded him in the face. despite wounds, the private first class refused medical treatment and continued to lead the attack. when an enemy grenade landed among the group of his comrades private first class svala without hesitation and undoubtedly aware of extreme danger threw himself upon
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the grenade. during this action, private first class svala was mortally wounded. private first class svala's ska ordinary heroism and selflessness, above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit and the united states army. >> [applause] >> >> [applause]
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>> let's give both families a big round of applause. [applause] >> for anthony, and for henry. [applause] >> please join me in prayer. grairveous guards you start our hearts once again today for the account of the great american soldiers who valued lives under their care more than their own. you told us in the holy scripture there's no greater love than this so we do etch this eternal truth in our hearts as we carry out our responsibilities to you, our families and our great nation. bless the young men and women of our armed services
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who walk in the foot steps of both anthony and henry, protecting and defending our lives at freedom's cost and lord, continue to bless and give great power and widom to our president barack obama as he leads our nation these challenging times and god, bless america, in your holy name we pray, amen. >> amen. >> thank you very much everyone. please enjoy the reception. and again, to the families, we could not be prouder of anthony and henry. we are grateful for their sacrifice. we are grateful for your sacrifice. you have made this country safer. tony and henry stand as a model of courage and patriotism. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. thank you everyone. [applause] >> jenna: the president honors two army veterans in korea, 50 years later, here we are the day after osama bin laden.
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we'll have more coverage after the break[ .
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jenna: the president wrapping up the medal of honor ceremony moments ago, he said at the beginning the world is safer, it's a better place because of the death of osama bin laden. back with us -- former congresswoman jane harman, she was part of the response to the 9/11 attacks, a ranking member of the subcommittee of terrorism and homeland security, and congresswoman, you were telling us before we went to the medal of honor ceremony you had a very important breakfast this morning, a
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breakfast with the director of national intelligence, james clapper. that was probably a pretty good breakfast to have on a morning like this one. what was the discussion, if you could share with us, about what's next? >> well, everyone is focused on that. the good news is that we now have intelligence capability that is latched together, that means, 16 intelligence agencies are under one joint command, the director of national intelligence, jim clapper, is that commander, and finally, after some work in progress, since 2004 when congress passed a law and it was signed by president bush, we have capability we didn't have before. 9:00 almost ten years after 9/11, we can do things we couldn't do before and this matters, because we will hopefully intercept the next plot in ways we could not do before. that doesn't mean we will never be attacked. i think peter king is right, the chairman of the house homeland committee who spoke
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on your broadcast earlier today, that we should brace ourselves for attacks on the homeland, especially home grown terrorists might act not in concert with al-qaeda central but they could act. there are materials on the web that teach people how to make dangerous weapons. but i think that we have better protection in our train stations, airports, airplanes, municipal buildings and so forth and people are more aware, so the chances of that are reduced, and my bottom line here is that we have a much better capability and we have a chance at unity in this country forged out of yesterday, that we should really take advantage of. jenna: congresswoman, you mentioned some of the things we were able to do post 2004 that can make us more effective in our intelligence gathering. what's been mentioned throughout the morning as well is the intelligence that was given to us by what -- what interrogations happened at gitmo and also in these quote unquote secret prisons that the cia was running, both of those,
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the secret persons as well hat gitmo have been heavily criticized from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. when we talk about what we're able to do in intelligence gather ridge, can you be more specific about what is so important for us to do moving forward? >> well, i said it's important for us to pull together. this is not a partisan issue. the terrorists aren't going to check our party registration before they blow us up, so let's start with that. and i think the president can hit the reset button tonight when he's having the dinner, prescheduled dinner, with a lot of members of congress. i hope he does that. he also has reached out for president bush 43 and president clinton, both of whom were part of the story of evolving capeiminities so i think that's very good. in terms of these various programs and criticisms of the programs, some of these programs remain classified, and i'm certainly not going to comment on that. i think the thing we do have capabilities that i strongly support, but they have to be exercised within the law in
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our constitution. the foreign intelligence surveillance act has been amended by congress. it's a controversial law. but it works. and it needs to be followed. and i believe that that gives us the capability, going forward, to intercept communications that we need to intercept by both foreigners and american citizens, again, it sets out a legal framework and if we use that framework we can hopefully find some of these people and find their locations. that's what we just did. we found a location of these couriers, and take action that's appropriate. jenna: congresswoman harman, great to have you as our guest today, we know it's a busy morning for you and we appreciate you staying with us. we look forward to talking to you again. thank you. >> thank you. jon: so osama bin laden is dead. his death, sparking celebrations nationwide. americans, boasting about a stunning accomplishment by u.s. military and intelligence teams that was pulled off flawlessly.
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peter johnson, jr. says it's a great example of american exceptionalism. he's a fox news contributor and joins me in lower manhattan. we're steps away from the site where the twin towers were hit and where they fell and what a change! >> it is a change. but it is about the dignity and decency and american exceptionalism. we proved here at ground zero, on 9/11, that in loss, in destruction, we had dignity, we had the will to survive not only, but also, persevere and win. so today, as we are jubilant about this news, but not celebratory, because we remember the loss of that day, we still mourn for those who loss and we mourn for the soldiers and servicemen and air men and women who died on our behalf here in the united states, we keep who we are. there's a dignity. there's an indominability
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and it's called american exceptionalism and this proves it that these towers rise out of so much sadness and the world is here to witness it. it's a happy day for america in that sense. jon: i am struck by the people here today. you have your usual collection of walt traders and so forth walking by to work, a great number of tourists here, the police are here. i saw a contingent of u.s. army national guardsmen walk by here. everybody is here to come to this place so see the world trade center tower, the freedom tower, as it used to be officially called, rising again, and there is a buoyancy in the air. >> there's a buoyancy, and there's also prayerfulness. i saw people praying, i saw a woman kneel ago couple blocks away. a block from us is saint peter's church on barclay street, the oldest roman catholic church in new york city and the fire chaplain was brought from these rooms
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on 9/11 to the altar. >> father judge. >> father judge, on that day, with buoyancy, with prayer, with the eyes of the world looking on us, on this happy day, we show who we are as a people. we demonstrate the principles that we hold so dearly. and we also tell the world that we are willing, unfortunately, to fight and die for those principles. so this is a day of buoyancy, this is a day of jubilation, that an evil, sick mastermind of terror and destruction has been killed by loyal and faithful and courageous american troos, but at the same time, we steel ourselves and give ourselves new resolve for the future, for piece paste in the world, for american strength and justice always for the victims of 9/11, whether in washington or pennsylvania or new york or our friends and family across the country who lost loved ones around the world,
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independent -- in defense of this country. jon: it is a great country and great day to be an american. >> thank you for doing what you do, your family, jon. >> jon: peter johnson, thank you. jen the man who inspired the nation during the horrors of 9/11, america's mayor, rudy giuliani, joins us after the break.
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jenna: the breaking details
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are coming in as we speak, all of this is coming up on "america live" at the top of the hour, we are learning more details about the moments before the end of bin laden's life and the cia has what has been described as a large cache of materials that was uncovered during the raid that they are beginning to analyze. we've also got new information on what we did and did not tell the pakistanis about what we knew in this situation, that relationship is unfolding as well, and new info on the burial at sea that may surprise you. oliver r ver north is with us -- oliver north has been with us, he believes he likely met some of the young soldiers who are the heroes of today in the highest order. we're going to talk about them, also andy card who delivered the first message to president bush that america was under attack, we're going to get his reaction a. special guest with him as well. all of that coming up right here on "america live". jenna: the mayor during 9/11
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who became a national hero is down at ground zero today and our eric shawn just got to talk to him. eric. >> reporter: yeah jenna, thousands of people are here, as you can see, paying their respects to ground zero, there's a sense of celebration, of toy -- joy, but also tempered by the sadny, the sorrow. these are some of the firefighters who died, mayor rudy gawl anie -- giuliani was mayor of that day, he was here just moments ago, he said he found out about this last night like ul the rest of us did, by watching it on television while he was home. we talked to the former mayor rudy giuliani moments ago. here is some of what he said: >> we're are may rudy gul ano who was here on 9/11, your thoughts at that moment of this killing. >> there's a great sense of satisfaction and relief that he's finally been caught and brought to justice, and
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there is a higher sort of revenge that it isn't the most noble but it's there and it's human. many times on september 11, the day after, he wanted to see him caught, brought to justice and it's finally been done. i have a lot of admiration for our military and our intelligence services for carrying out a very difficult mission and for president obama for making the decision. this could have easily gone wrong. >> the mayor also said this is a much bigger deal than people realize, it doesn't end fanatacism but will be fatal to it. jen interesting perspective, thank you very much. jon: now that the search for osama bin laden is over, the hunt for answers begins. congresswoman sylvester reye sevment joins us next to discuss what lawmakers on capitol hill want to know. that's coming up.
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jon: the security committee is set to meet one hour from now, 2:00 p.m. eastern time, on pakistan. it's a thearg that was planned well before that u.s. military team located and killed osama bin laden not far from the capitol city of islamabad. lawmakers said to be drawing all long list of questions about this military operation and pakistan and what it knew about it, where bin laden was hiding. joining us now, congresswoman sylvester reyes, democrat from texas, he is a member of the house armed services committee and former chairman of the house intelligence committee. last night's developments, congressman, obviously changed the tenor of this discussion today. what is your first question? >> well, first of all, congratulations to the men and women of the many intelligence agencies and
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military that carried out this operation and also the director panetta and president obama, who make that decision. but i think the intelligence committee's -- committees both on the house and senate side probably have had briefings on these operations or at least the planned operation. i think my first question based on tenure, service in the intelligence committee deals with exactly what -- how much information the pakistanis knew, were they helpful, and ultimately, for about a month and a half now, we've been told that relations between the united states and pakistan have been a bit strained. i'm wondering, were they strained because of the information we had or because we weren't sharing it with them. jon: it does not appear that
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the u.s. shared any information at all about this raid with the pakistanis. the fact that the raid was carried out successfully, apparently without their help, they will complain loud and long and already are about the fact that their air space was violated and so forth, but do you think in the long run, this might lead to an improvement of relations? >> well, i believe so. certainly, the results were successful. based on years of talking with the leaders in pakistan, both in the military, intelligence and political, the potential for osama bin laden being in their country, the controversy about the taliban using it as a safe haven does not make for a good relationship, either between us and pakistan or
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pakistan and its neighbors. so i think the more we get to a place where we resolve these kinds of issues, they may -- there may be a public outcry from them, but i think behind the scenes, they probably are grateful that we are taking these individuals out one at a time. jon: congressman sylvester reyes, democrat of texas, thank you. >> thank you. jon: we'll be right back. and i went ne to find a way. ♪ chantix -- it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. whileou're taking the medication, for the first week, you can go ahead and smoke. [ male announcer ] prescription chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. [ mike ] when i was taking the chantix, it reduced the urge to smoke. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior,
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jenna: remembering all the victims back on 9/11, nearly 3,000 lives lost on september 11th. more than 4,000 killed in iraq. another 32,000 wounded. 1500 deaths in afghanistan in the ongoing operations there and more than 11,000 wounded. we are thinking today of those families of that navy seal team that woke up to the news as we all did this morning. jon. jon: from the

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