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tomorrow. alisyn: book-em-dano. bill: "happening now" "happening now" starts right now. jenna: thanks, guys, hi, everybody i'm jenna lee. jon: ao*eupl jon scott. we have breaking news on all kinds of stories on "happening now" "happening now." jenna: brand-new news about the raid that took out the most wanted man in his home. catherine herridge is live in washington with more. >> reporter: one u.s. official said to me this morning is not only was the compound custom built for usama bin laden using his own money but it was clearly built for deception and the possibility of an assault on that compound. what i was told by the u.s. official is that there were barricades on each of the three floors within the compound and as one example i was told that one of the main doors on the ground floor was in fact a false
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door it had a brick door behind it. when it seals encountered it they opened the door and had to blow through the bricks. it tells you the level of premeditation that went into the complex, jenna. jenna: speaking of that, catherine. hollywood celebrities these days have personal body guards, people armed with them. do you have any information as to why there weren't body guards the navy seals had to confront or why there wasn't more personal security. >> reporter: i didn't get any information this morning on the lack or apparent lack of body guards. what i was told by the u.s. official is it seemed clear that usama bin laden was ready to flee or always anticipated having to flee at a moments notice. he had phone numbers season into his clothing in addition to several hundred dollars. that was an indication that he was at least anticipating having to flee the complex. and i was also told that based on one of the initial after action reports that usama bin laden did mount, quote, a resistance to the seals, but
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they could not be more specific as to whether it was a physical resistance to the assault. jenna: there is so much more to this story to come over the next couple of days and weeks, catherine. there is so much debate about intelligence gathering, was waterboarding integral to getting this information? what is the bottom line on that. >> reporter: i think the bottom line is that the initial thread of intelligence that ultimately led to the courier in the compound in pakistan did come from the cia program in 2003. at that time the cia interrogation program was the enhanced interrogation program which included waterboarding, sensory deprivation, sleep tkep deprivation and the like. what i know about the timetable is khalid shaikh mohammed was arrested in 2003. water boarded almost immediately and the u.s. official said he provided this alias for the courier about three or four months later. this is where you see if you will the political divide on that story.
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those who support the cia program say that clearly khaled shaikh mohammed's mind was changed by the waterboarding and that's why he provided the name. those who oppose the program say it was unconnected to the waterboarding because that name was provided several months later. i think that's what we're seeing in the debate in washington. but the bottom sign, there is no dispute on either side that the initial thread came from the cia program in 2003 then there was an eight-year effort to build up that picture that ultimately led to the compound. jenna: we'll lead the partisan sides to themselves. thank you very much. catherine herridge in d.c. today. jon: a debate is going on in the white house right now, whether to release the graphic photographs of usama bin laden's corpse. there are skeptics out there that demand proof that the terrorist leader is really dead. some in the administration say they are afraid the images could trigger a backlash in the arab world. cia director leon panetta says
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he thinks at least one photo will be released. wendell goler is keeping an eye on that. >> reporter: most of the push for the pictures appears to be generated in the media. people are divided on capitol hill. there are concerns here at the white house that releasing the graphic pictures of usama bin laden's body could incite al-qaida sympathizers. there are questions about whether releasing the pictures is even needed given there doesn't appear to be much doubt that usama bin laden is dead. the taliban released a statement saying there is no proof he is dead. hits own wife said he was dead. hamas said if he is dead he was a murder victim. we know there are two sets of pictures, one taken of usama bin laden's body at an airport hang tkpwer and another aboard an aircraft carrier carl vinson some before burial at sea. deputy national security officer
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dennis mcd u.n. num was skeupt cal about putting out any pictures. >> we are not going to put at risk our troops, our intelligence officials, our dip plea matter, especially our private citizens overseas. >> reporter: there is another issue here in that the set of pictures in which usama bin laden is most easily recognized is the most graph i be set, that taken at the hangar in afghanistan before the body was washed up aboard the vinson, john. jon: thank you. we want to know what you think. should the government release the photos of usama bin laden's dead body? you can vote in our online unscientific poll. go to foxnews.com. more than 140,000 viewers have already weighed in. about 79% says yeah, go ahead and release the photos. about 15% of you say, no, they should stay in secret hands. jenna: gas prices climbing overnight yet again.
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aaa is reporting the average price of a gallon of regular unleaded is now $3.98. more than a dollar than it was last year at the same time, and it's really affecting americans in a very real way. in fact a brand-new fox poll find 62%, six out of ten of us say the pain at the pump is forcing us to cut down on driving. nearly half of us are changing our summer plans. some of us are now considering fuel efficient cars. i wonder if eric bolling is. he'll be here in a second. more than a third say we are cutting back on other necessities just to afford gas. eric is here with us. what do you think of that. >> i'll stay with my fossil fuel that i love. oil was down about a dollar and change yesterday. another $2 today on the heels of good numbers, good stockpile numbers that come out every week. a little easing, we are down to $110 a barrel. it was $116 a barrel a few weeks w-g. backing off a little bit but the
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gasoline prices continue to rise probably 40 or 41 days in a row now jenna, that will continue. i think we'll start to see a leveling off a little bit. the all time high nationally is $4.11, or $3.98. only 13-cents away. i think we will work through that and make a new high. the peak driving season starts about now. gasoline prices will go up. this year we'll probably see $4. next summer $5 is an absolute lock unless they start to do the things they need to do in washington. jenna: what are those things. >> permits to drill. there were permits during the george bush era, when the bp disaster happened the obama administration put a moratorium on them. there is a bill circulating through congress right now that says all the permits that are already approved that got kind of put down during the bp disaster, put those back online
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that would start pumping oil immediately. jenna: that would affect supplies and maybe the price would come down. >> right away. jenna: one of our producers on capitol hill says harry reid is introducing a bill on the senate floor that is going to talk about repealing the subsidies for the oil and gas companies. some of the big tax breaks. what would that do. >> it's either a 4 or $5 billion loophole that some of the oil companies are doing. go ahead and repeal that. it really doesn't matter. look at the gasoline price, $3.98 a gallon. it really wouldn't matter to the consumer. it's not going to change very much. we are spending $350 billion a year more because of the gas price, the move up in gas over the last year and a half, $350 billion a year. the $4 billion to the oil companies probably isn't going to have any affect on the oil price. we like to point fingers, this one probably won't have an affect on oil prices.
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very quickly, though, something very important, refiners right now are making more money than they ever have. i've been doing this for 23 years in the oil business, the refiners are making more money than they ever have right now. so there is room for gasoline -- jenna: why are they making money. >> the market is demanding it. if this fox news poll is right and 62% of the people poll say they will change their driving habits then maybe demand starts to slack off. right now gasoline is being demanded and demanded strong. we are coming out of a reinvestigation. jenna: there is always someone making money. that's why your show follow the money 10:00pm eastern time. see it tonight, eric thank you so much for that. we have to head back overseas. protests in pakistan. usama bin laden supporters take to the streets to show their anger over the terror leaders' death. what did the government know about usama bin laden's whereabouts, what are they saying today. a live report from islamabad
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ahead. jon, what are you watching over there. jon: at the top of the hour we heard from catherine her lidge about some of the deception that was built into the compound that was sheltering usama bin laden. if you want to know more check out foxnews.com. we are also not for getting the big domestic story of the day the mississippi river and that terrible flooding affecting so many americans in the heartland. it's all there for you on foxnews.com. [ wind howling ]
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apparently threw an explosive device and opened fire on a bus carrying turkish police. one officer was killed. the interesting thing here is that the prime minister had just finished an election rally there. he took off by helicopter, but apparently this attack was directed at what the attackers may have presumed was his convoy of protection. at any rate one police officer was killed. never a good sign to see instability in turkey. and that seems to be what we have right now. we'll keep an eye on it, let you know more information as it becomes available. jenna: turning back home side, we have two new reports out today for shadowing what we might see when we get our big government jobs report on friday and these reports are sending stocks lower today. the payroll from adp showing 179,000 new jobs added last month. while it's certainly positive to see job growth this number is below expectations on wall street. staffing from challenger graham
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shows they have laid off 36,500 work hers, a little bit under that last month. that's a 12% drop from last month. the pays of job cuts is slowing. big jobs report on friday will give us a new unemployment rate and that's what the markets are watching for. jon: rebel reinforcements are arriving in the libyan city of ajdabiya. they are offering protection for residents returning to that strategic town but there is practically no fuel or cars or cooking there. unexploded bombs are still lying around in the streets. nato helped defend the city against moammar qaddafi's forces fighting to clear a path straight through to the rebel stronghold of benghazi. we are getting new reports qaddhafi forces are shelling the rebel held town of misrata. the battle goes on there. jenna: syrian tanks on the movement witnesses say they are on a damascus road heading
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north, this comes as the country charges hundreds of detained protestors with ma lining the state. it car rest a three year prison sentence and comes ahead of the muslim day of prayer on friday. jon: you've heard of the long search for peace in the middle east. there may be a bit of detante. it's between hamas and fatah. they are signing a reconciliation packet this morning. it ends a bitter four year rift between the two groups. but it could spell trouble for the mideast peace process. leland vittert live in jerusalem for us. >> reporter: the prime minister of israel called this agreement a victory for 0 terrorism, basically saying the israeli government is not going to negotiate with this new palestinian unity government. 50% of it is involved whose leader in just the past couple of days says that he condemned
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the u.s. killing of usama bin laden, and called bin laden a holy warrior. still it now means that the palestinians are speaking for one voice and that may be useful come september when there is a scheduled showdown at the united nations between the palestinians and israel over the possibility of their state. why did these two groups have to come together? back in 2007 hamas took over the gaza strip. since then the gaza strip has descended largely into poverty, the west bank which is controlled by fatah largely a more peaceful area has got even a lot of money from the united states and from the european union and has prospered largely in a more peaceful way. the question is now with this unity government is the money going to continue to flow to this new palestinian group? the other thing comes is that israel has largely said they are not going to negotiate with this new palestinian group. it's important to remember here in the middle east things change, often in a couple of hours. this new agreement says the palestinians will have an
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election within a year. there are many people here who think it may not loose a year, it may not even last a month as this agreement goes. they had a big ceremony in cairo today. the ceremony started late why? because both sides, hamas and fatah had to sit around and argue over where everybody was going to sit before they signed it. jon: that doesn't bode well for the kiss and make up kind of thing they supposedly have done there. leland hav vittert thank you. jenna: we are taking you down to washington d.c. where the senate jew dish remeeting is being held. eric holder is testifying. there was an interesting exchange we wanted to flag to your attention. senator schumer asked the attorney general what he expects to find from the quote unquote treasure trove that was discovered in usama bin laden's compound, whether there would be new names added to the watch list. potentially visas that are approved by the united states revoked. the attorney general did not say
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anything definitively, he did say he expects that there are going to be more names added to the no-fly list and certainly the watch list as well. here is another note coming from the associated press the attorney general eric holder also saying he has serious concerns about american safety from possible quote unquote revenge attacks for usama bin laden's death, certainly a situation we are watching deaf as we speak. as we hear more we will bring that to you. jon. jon: right here in new york city tomorrow, jenna the commander in chief will be coming to deliver a major speech from ground zero, the site of the former world trade center destroyed in the 9/11 attacks. the backdrop could not be any more symbolic after the death of usama bin laden. the question is, will it also boost the president's approval ratings? is it a bit of a political victory lap? we'll take a look. it looks like a scene somewhere at sea, but this is the missouri. more of this dramatic rescue and
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jon: right now press is gearing up for a very big speech at new york city's ground zero, tomorrow's visit to the hallowed site in lower manhattan where the world trade center stood will be the president's first since taking office. in the wake of the death of usama bin laden, boost the president's approval rating? let's talk about it with politics editor chris stirewalt in today's power play. good to see you outside for once, chris. we wanted you to get a little
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sunshine there. >> reporter: i know it's nice and we are away from d.c., away from all the crazy people on capitol hill. we are down here in south carolina it's really nice. jon: getting ready for big debate. president obama is making as you point out his first trip to ground zero since he became president and he's invited a couple of special guests, one of them we know can't attend. >> reporter: that's right. president obama wanted former president george w. bush to be there with him for this big event, which is i think shaping up to try to be some kind of a book end to president bush's famous speech with the bullhorn, i hear you, the country hears you and the whole world is going to hear you. you remember that pivotal moment in american history now and president obama wanted bush to be there with him so it could add to that. president bush has declined. he has grounds for denying. he has kept a low profile.
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what president obama is trying to do is solidify the bounce. americans are overwhelmingly happy with the death of usama bin laden, they credit the petition for doing it, they are thrilled about it. waoes trying to get that to translate to broader support for him and his initiatives overall. he needs this moment at ground zero to be a pivotal moment. not having president bush there probably diminishes that impact a little bit. jon: he also invited rudy guiliani to join him there. any word from the william la jeunesse camp? >> reporter: haven't heard yet. william la jeunesse has spoken in very laud toro terms about what president obama did with usama bin laden. certainly he would be a logical fit to be there. we'll wait and see. heck, maybe he'll stop by the peace center here in greenville, south carolina to be part of the debate. we'll be ready. jon: when i was down at the ground zero site the other day
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the people were generally happy giving the president an awful lot of credit for what took place. chris stirewalt. thank you. you can get politically powered up each and every day with chris' power play, lock onto foxnews.com and click on the politics tab there at the top of the page. jenna: you know, chris just said he's ready for any surprise, any surprise at all, anyone showing up. i guess maybe that is a hint. some of the gop's presidential hopefuls are heading to santa clara where their first debate of the 2012 campaign is happening tomorrow night. when it comes to winning south carolina is a state where republicans certainly have the historical advantage, in fact listen to this. the last democrat who won there, jimmy carter, 35 years ago. interesting fact there, jonathan serrie is live in greenville, south carolina with more, jonathan. >> reporter: hi, jenna. democrats certainly face an uphill battle in this gop-controlled state. looking at the 2008 election
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obama lost south carolina to senator john mccain by nine points. the obama campaign is still optimistic. they already have operatives in south carolina cities including columbia and charleston. party leaders believe that birthers and other groups that they regard as radical elements within the gop may actually help democrats, they mayor party to appeal to moderates and republicans moving here from up north. listen. >> i think you're going to see a lot of independent folks shifting back to the democratic party if we have competent folks articulating a responsible position. >> reporter: democratic leaders say they believe they can reignite the enthusiasm of the 2008 campaign. chris was talking about the affect of the killing of usama bin laden, a national poll suggesting that that event has actually boosted the president's standing on issues of foreign policy and national security. and democrats are hoping that
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translates to gains here in south carolina, especially. this state has the highest per capita population of active and retired military. so democrats hoping that the killing of usama bin laden will translate into support from this have important group of voters here in south carolina. jenna and jon, back to you. jenna: that will be interesting to see if that is a factor. it certainly will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow night. are you and chris stirewalt going out on the town jonathan a little bit ahead of this debate. >> reporter: yes, if we have free time i. used to live here, i lived in greenville for almost five years, it's a fantastic city. everyone should come visit. jenna: a little going home for you, that is good to hear, jonathan. >> reporter: brings back good memories, yeah. jenna: 9:00pm eastern. we can all hang out together. we'll have the republican presidential debate happening, the first one here 2012, south carolina you're going to tune in
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right here to fox news and i guess we'll all be together. cincodemayo tomorrow. >> reporter: i was here last summer. jenna: who knew it was such a hot spot. jon: what pakistan might have known about usama bin laden's hideout. what it now claims it told the united states as far as back as 2009. does it ring true? we are live in pakistan with that. and charges that she was bullied to death by a group of classmates, today court action in this case. it includes a plea deal. we'll up date you on this very, very sad story. hey, smart. you book your room yet?
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jenna: news out of pakistan, pakistan is blasting the cia's chief, claiming the -- the chief's claim, in fact, that it would have jeopardized the mission to take out osama bin laden, its foreign minister even going one step further today, insisting that pakistan actually tipped off the u.s. back in 2009 about suspicious activity at what turned out to be bin laden's compound. now, even in his death, bin laden seems to have some support in pakistan. take a look, hundreds of his followers taking to the streets protesting his death and burning american flags. greg palkot is streaming live from islamabad today. greg, we understand you were in bin laden's neighborhood a little bit earlier. what were you seeing there? >> reporter: yeah, exactly. jenna, we went up to the town of abbottabad, about a
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2 1/2 hour drive north of where we are now in islamabad and that of course is where osama bin laden lived, where he was captured, and where he was killed. we did spend some time in his neighborhood, we talked to some people, we looked around and got a little bit better sense of how the one time terror mastermind lived and the people around him as well. take a look at what we saw and heard. >> the folks in bin laden's old neighborhood think that maybe something was strange, a lot of families, a lot of cindz inside the compound, they rarely came out and when they came out the women were in birkas, the men speaking eh irk -- arabic. they were told they were big shoppers and like coke and pepsi, previous eswas key, people put the garbage out, well, the garbage was burnt inside the bin laden compound, they didn't want anyone going through the trash and when kids play with balls like they do here, might have gone over a wall like that into the compound, the kids never saw the ball again, they were
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paid off. >> reporter: jenna, one person told us the folks inside, who was was inside was so security conscious, when the milkman came to the front door he was torn to give the bottles to somebody else to carry in. jenna: very secretive. s with eo as we take a look at that compound and the streets around it, is it becoming a bit of a tourist attraction? what kind of activity is happening at that compound when you were there? >> reporter: it has been getting a lot of attention, and in fact, today, the military and police sealed it off completely to the public. we are told two top pakistani officials were inside there, the head of the military and the head of the intelligence. obviously, these folks want to take a close-up look of where that capture and kill raid was. they are taking a lot of heat, too, for pakistan's role, not just in the raid, but in the hiding out of usama bin laden, questions being raised about the town of abbottabad.
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we spent time moving around this city. it is basically a military hub for pakistan, 120,000 current and retired service members live in that town, and for the last six years, u sama bin laden has been living there, too, again, raising a lot of questions jenna. jenna: some amazing insight greg, thank you very much, greg palkot in pakistan today. jon: a bit of an embarrassment when the world's most wanted terrorist is found sort of hiding in plain sight in your country. so what did pakistan know about bin laden's presence there? let's talk about it with mike baker, former cia covert operations officer, now a diligence llc -- with diligence lly. what do you think? the pakistanis said we had no idea he was there and then wait wait -- said wait a minute we were suspicious of that compound and alerted the u.s. government it something like in 2009. >> right, right, first at the take down, as it broke, news came out, they say we didn't know anything about the operation, anything
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about this, distancing themselves, basically, and for certain political reasons i suspect. now as it's becoming shall we say a bit more embarrassing and difficult to explain away, you know, they want to say well, actually, remember all those reports we gave you back in 2009 and beyond in terms of them being at this compound? this is a prime example of the dysfunctional nature of the relationship we have had for a long time between our intelligence services and their, our military and their military, and you know, there's been a game that gets played. we've always understood that they've got their own national interests and there are pockets of sympathizers who have for years cultivated deep ties to the taliban and other extremists, and yet, we've always worked beyond that, we've always gone beyond it and always played the game that says we have much cooperation, and that's because it's been in our best interests. the problem with this situation now is it's so obvious, it's so in your face, that they're having a
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hard time trying to figure out how to play this now, how to explain it away and get back to that normal dance that we do. jon: but is it because there isn't necessarily one person in charge? i mean, czar -- zardari, president zardari, obviously has the title but doesn't really hold sway over wide portions of the military and security apparatus and so forth. >> no, absolutely, and there are key players in there and chief among them is general kaiano, general pasha, who runs the isi, the intel service. again, people shouldn't mistake this as some sort of government, you know, wide conspiracy and everyone in the government, everyone in the military, everyone at isi knew about this. there are people within isi as an example whose specific pont is -- responsibility is to handle, coordinate and liase with members of taliban, they've been doing this for years and years, so it's not a heavy lift to understand there are some people aware of this. otherwise, you have to say, well, they're so incompetent
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that they didn't know that bin laden's this close to islamabad for all these years and you know what, the isi is a very capable, professional service. jon: at any rate, we got him and all kinds of intelligence, hard drive and computer and so forth. what are they doing with it right now, what's going on? what's going on at langley, virginia headquarters? >> when you pick up a high value detainee off the street the first thing you want to know is does he know of any imminent threat, are there any planned operations he's aware of. it's essentially the same way when you pick up information like this. they are scouring all of this, whether you talk about the hard drives, the paperwork, whatever they got, the cell foarntion an they're looking for indications of imminent threat, any planned operations that are about to take place. aside from that, they're going through it, it'so you it imagine, it's a treasure trove of information, including information about al-qaeda members, sympathizers, supporters, in terms of how they communicate, technology they're using, any communication, codes they
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may be using, finances, we've always got an issue of trying to follow the money, information about how money is being passed back and forth between various entities or accounts. they're looking at training, are there safe houses. the interesting thing, on the other side, you know what, the rats are jumping off the ship, because as soon as word of this broke, and al-qaeda became aware of it, you can imagine the scrambling that goes on as they're trying to -- they're trying to recover and that movement is terrific because it creates opportunity. jon: it's a game of whackable, almost. >> absolutely. jon: mike backer formerly with the cia, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: this was a major story when it broke a little over a year ago, five teens accused of bullying a classmate who later committed suicide, all those teens are appearing in court today, this week, in fact, investigators say the five elentlessly harassed phoebie prince who later took her life in january of last year, two of the teens were sentenced to a year of probation, that just happening today, the other
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three are due in court tomorrow. molly line is live in north hampton, massachusetts with more. molly. >> reporter: jenna, it was a heartbreaking day in court today, phoebie prince's mother made a statement and two of the defendants, as you mentioned, agree to plea deals with the prosecutors. one of them apologizing for her actions that led up to ultimately phoebie prince taking her own life that january, sean mulhihh, 17 years old at the time the crimes were alleged to have occurred, pled guilty to harassment, including more serious charges, in exchange for the dropping of the more serious charges of civil rights violations, statutory rape. kay lin merry, also 17 at the time that these actions took place was dating mulvey hill and she agreed to continuation without a finding. prosecutors have said all along the haunting stem -- the taunting stems from jealousy. she made an apology, wishing she could go back in time and change her actions saying she put the
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relationship with her boyfriend ahead of the good behavior and morals she had been taught throughout her life. phoebie prince's mother made an emotional statement, speaking to both defendants. take a listen: >> [inaudible comments] >> i would not wish this kind of pain on any parent. >> reporter: three more of the teenagers charged with bullying phoebie prior to her death will be in court tomorrow and there is a sixth teenager who is expected to go to trial on statutory rape charges later this summer. jenna: a heartbreaking story as you say, molly. molly line, live in massachusetts for us today, thank you. jon: right now jenna, we have very dramatic video to show you. firefighters, coming to the aid of a man attacked by a swarm of bees, africanized bees, potentially deadly. you won't believe how many.
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jenna: fox news alert and update on the photo of a dead u sama bin laden, this comes from our team at the pentagon who spoke with senior administration officials who have seen the photo, and we have new details of what it might look like. of course we do not have the photo for you. i'm going to read to you a bit of what we know according to this senior administration official, apparently the photo does show a large open gunshot wound to the forehead, it also shows one of bin laden's eyes open. there's certainly been a lot said about whether or not this photo is gruesome or not. what we do know, according again to this source is
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because of the gunshot wound in the forehead, it is exposing some of the inside of the head and that one of the eyes is completely gone, according to this official. again, a lot of debate, is it gruesome, is it not, is that the reason why we are not releasing this photo. certainly this debate will go on and we'll own have other opinions of what we consider gruesome but that details of this photo of u sama bin laden. just a final thought, apparently the exit wounds on both the gun shots, one to the head and one to the chest, both wounds are not seen in this particular photo. we'll bring you more as we get it. jon: right now some extreme weather to tell you about in the heafortland. it leads to a very close call for one woman. take a look at this video out of missouri. the 93-year-old driver of this car got stuck while trying to cross a flooded highway. but two guardian angels swept in, you might say. they rescued her. they are being honored as
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heroes. arthel neville has the full story and is at the breaking news desk. >> reporter: special junior bombard is saying it is the reason why i signed up for the guard, i knew wufn these days i'd be needed like today and sure enough it happened. take a look again at special bombard, there it is, making a daring rescue of a 93-year-old woman on the swollen black arrive in pop lar bluff, missouri. they were on another assignment when an emergency call came in at 9:00 a.m. tuesday about this elderler woman who attempted to drive across highway 53. well, you can clearly see that highway 53 was under water and the current was moving fast. now, incredible teamwork as the two missouri national guard citizen soldiers, using a wench cable as a safety line to save the woman. butler county deputy sheriff bob larkins captured the dramatic scene on videotape as he was there to assist from the shore.
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sergeant bridges and bombard are among 76 soldiers and air men supporting the missions in southeast missouri. they earned the siteel -- title citizen heros because of this rescue and both men said they weren't there to be heros, they were just doing their jobs. by the wairks the 93-year-old woman was evaluated by local and emergency medical services, personnel, and was released. guys. jon: guardian angels from the national guard. >> absolutely. jon: arthel, thank you. >> yes. jenna: we don't want to forget our friends in the south dealing with such a massive cleanup operation now, that giant twister that struck near the university of alabama campus in tax ca loosa, that was our big story last week and continues to be a big one for us. as we know, six students died in this disaster. how is the university moving forward in we'll speak to someone on the -- forward? we'll speak to someone on the ground there coming up next.
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jon: jenna mentioned it was a huge story last week and with don't want to forget about it, the university of alabama, launching a program to help the victims of last week's tornadoes. those storms killed 236 people across the state, including six alabama students. joining us on the phone, grant cochran, president of the student government association at the university of alabama. grant, we know that it didn't really strike the campus directly, but it struck an awful lot of student housing off campus housing, and that's where so many of your fellow students were killed. what's going on at the campus right now? >> well, right now, jon, on campus, we've seen -- the university had a great response to the storm, encouraging students to go home, but what we've seen is a lot of students sticking around to help with the recovery process. we've seen students
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volunteer all across the city, getting into the affected areas, and really doing their part to contribute to the recovery process. jon: and you're getting some great help from schools that would be rivals on the football field, but they're coming to your aid, huh? >> absolutely. our main rival, even auburn, we've had auburn, from the fcc, even schools from outside the fcc, calling us immediately, the day after, wondering how they can help, how they can send people to volunteer. jon: what's the biggest need right now? >> right now, there are needs that range a variety of areas. there's clothing, hygiene items, monetary donations and even blood donations are on high demand. jon: i know that students at the school, the school took a pretty good pounding but students at the school are pitching in to help other folks, neighbors, townspeople, and so forth. >> that's right. even though our infrastructure at campus wasn't directly hit, we've seen students go out to the surrounding tuscaloosa areas, trying to find any way possible they can contribute, you know, over
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four years of being a student here, you consider this place home, tuscaloosa is our hole and that's what students have seen in their contributions to our society. jon: last weekend, seeing the death of osama bin laden, that's what the nation is talking about now and again, we want to make the point we do not want to forget about you folks there in alabama and the other states that were hit so badly. what would you say to the nation right now? you've got their ear. >> i would just like to say thank you to everyone within tuscaloosa, thank you to everyone from outside tuscaloosa. there are a lot of heroes that we have in our community right now but you don't have to be in tuscaloosa to help out, blood dough naightses, monetary donation, the acts of kindness going into the red cross, every little bit will go a long way and gets us a step closer to recovery. jon: grant cochran is president of the student university at tuscaloosa, at the university there. thank you. >> roll tight. jon: you're listening to some of the stories, taking
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a look at the photos of the damage. if you want to help, go to fox news.coment. we have a list of organizations that are trying to make a difference there in that area that was so badly ripped by that tornado. jenna: a little student hidden pride there. jon: student pride, role tide! >> jenna: calling bin laden's death an act of national defense. more on the fallout and what it means for the war in afghanistan. plus massive flooding in the midwest, the army blasting a levy to ease pressure on some towns. it may even do more. mike tobin is live along the ohio river today. mike. >> reporter: jenna, those blastings to stabilize the flood waters around the southern end of illinois, but the concern is shifting farther south. we'll have the latest on the flood waters, coming up.
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jenna: we bring you back down to d.c., the senate judiciary committee holding a hearing now where attorney
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general eric holder is testifying. take a listen to what he just said about the killing of usama bin laden: >> yeah, let me make something very clear. the operation in which usama bin laden was killed was lawful. he was the head of al-qaeda, the organization that had conducted the attacks of september 11th, he admitted his involvement, as you indicate, he said he would not be taken alive, the operation against bin laden was justified as an act of national self-defense. jenna: an action of national self-defense. eric holder went on to call his killing appropriate. he also went on to say that usama bin laden hay made no attempt to surrender. if he had, the attorney general says, the seals did the right thing, essentially, and i'm reading from a paraphrase as we're getting the transcript just as he's speaking there to the committee. one of the things that stands out about this rough transcript that i have is that the attorney general says in effect, i'm proud of what they did, speaking of the seals, and i want to
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emphasize that what they did was lawful and consistent with our values. interesting hearing this note, jon, from the attorney general at a time when we're now hearing new criticism about what the united states did, whether it was legal for us to go into another country, and assassinate, essentially, usama bin laden. more to the story as we get it, everybody. we're going to bring in a brand new hour of "happening now". we're so glad you're us as we take in breaking news around the world. jon: interesting testimony on capitol hill. i'm jon scott. new details emerging about the raid at usama bin laden's hideout and those two couriers who were hiding with him and his family, as well as some of the items found on bin laden that show he was ready to run. we're also just getting new details on what went on in the situation room at the white house as the assault was underway. jennifer griffin, live at the pentagon with those details for us. jennifer. >> reporter: well, jon, we've just spoken to a u.s. official who has seen the photographs of bin laden's
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dead body and the source described to us what it looked like. essentially, what you can see in the photograph is a large open wound to the forehead. you can actually see brain matter in the picture, we're told. we're also told that one of bin laden's eyes is open, one is completely gone. you cannot see the exit wound in the back of the head, we're told, or the chest wound, but again, one of the reasons the white house is taking so much time in deciding whether to release the photos is the gruesome nature of it. the person who saw the photo told us that you -- that bin laden is easily recognizable, however, in the photo. we're also getting some details we can confirm, that he was found wearing what's called a shalwal kamiz, a pakistani outfit, pajama-like in nature and in it was sewn in 5000 euros, about $1000.2 phone numbers
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were found sewn into that shalwal kamiz, so that suggested he had plans, if someone was circling in on him, plans to go somewhere. still notable that there were no security guards at the compound. they did find some weapons, some light weapons such as heavy machine guns and pistols at the compound. we're also told a little bit more about the two men, two brothers, the couriers who sheltered him at the compound. their names, arshad and tare q kahn, those are some of the names used, they were pakistani but kuwaiti-born brothers who had been sheltering bin laden for some time, arsah and taec were some of the names they were used while sheltering bin laden. more details coming out, we also know about the sea burial. they talked about how he had been eased into the sea but i'm told his body fell
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30 feet from the deck of that aircraft carrier, the u.s.s. carl vincent, jon. jon: the debate those on. so many americans, 79 percent of the americans in the unscientific online poll say they would like to see the photos released but there's a bigger world than america, it might bring satisfaction to americans but i know at the pentagon what they are concerned about is blowback from overseas from usama bin laden supporters, sympathizers who would look at that photo and say look at what the terrible americans did, right? >> reporter: exactly. they're worried -- their principal worry is not upsetting the sensibilities of americans as they read their newspapers. they are concerned about inciting any violence that could draw any sort of attacks either against u.s. service members, we still have 100,000 troops in afghanistan, so that is really what they're debating. but this is the first really accurate description we have of what's in the photograph. don't forget, there also are videos from the raid and
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videos from the sea burial that they also could release if they wanted to. but again, we're waiting to hear about that. one other interesting point, the two brothers supposedly had bought the plot of land from a pakistani doctor, and we're getting some details out from pakistan of who they were and how they behaved in that town, so we'll bring them to you as we get them. jon: jennifer griffin at the pentagon, thank you. i don't mean -- i don't need to see the photo. i know he's dead, i'm good with that, i trust the pentagon, i trust the navy seals. jenna: is there a difference in your opinion before or after we heard about the details of the photo? because it sounds a little more graphic than we were led to believe. jon: i've seen plenty of graphic photos. that part doesn't bother me, but i just know he's gone. that's good enough. jenna: i'm curious when our viewers think. if any of you want to vote, we have details as jennifer griffin was reporting to us. it sounds a little gruesome.
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does that change your opinion? go to our unscientific poll. meantime we talked about the scep ti cism -- skepticism, right, and pakistan and whether or not they had no idea where usama bin laden was. their skepticism in afghanistan as well, a spokesman saying pakistan's powerful intelligence service must have known the terror leader was living just miles from the capitol city. conor powell is streaming live from kabul. conor. >> reporter: well, jen yarks afghan officials have long accused pakistan of not only harboring terrorists like osama bin laden, but also giving aid and comfort and supplying the fighters who are waging war here in afghanistan. senior members of the taliban are believed to be hiding out in parts of pakistan. there also are other members of al-qaeda that are believed to be in pakistan as well. so there's long been sort of a lot of an-- animosity and disbelief and trust in pakistani officials because of this. today, one of the most senior members of the afghan
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government today said that he simply doesn't believe that pakistani officials didn't know where usama bin laden was hiding out in pakistan. >> even a very weak government, with weak intelligence service, would have known and would have had the information that who was living in such a house, which was seen through media and tv, and what was going on in that house. >> reporter: it's important to remember that other members of al-qaeda have been discovered and found in pakistan, including khalid sheikh mohammed and other members of the taliban have also been found and captured in pakistan as well. several members, senior members, of the taliban are believed to be hiding out in pakistan, including mullah omar. so it does seem a bit unbelievable that pakistan, at least some members of the pakistani government, wouldn't have known that usama bin laden was there, hiding out in pakistan. the question is, how many people knew, and how high up the chain of command it actually went. but here in afghanistan, there is a great deal of
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distrust between the afghans and pakistanis, because afghans just simply believe that pakistan has caused many of the problems here in afghanistan, and continues to fuel the insurgency here in afghanistan, that u.s. troops and afghan troops are fighting every single day jenna. jenna: very interesting stuff. conor powell, live in afghanistan. it's interesting jon because you talked to congressman mike rogers yesterday who said to us that he really believes, at least part of the pakistani government had no idea are usama bin laden was hiding. jon joond he's a former fbi agent. he knows something about intelligence. jenna: good point. jon: want to tell you about this, the severe flooding that is spreading across the midwest, as rivers reach record levels in at least two states. jenna: at least two states. in tennessee, the mighty mississippi is expected to rise to levels last seen nearly a century ago. jon joond in missouri, where i went to school, the army corps of engineers blasts through a levy to allow flood waters to pour out on the farm country and
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mitigate the damage downstream. >> that alleviated waters in the small town of cairo but there are other issues to deal with. jon: if your farmland is under water you're not happy with it. mike tobin is live in metropolis, illinois. >> reporter: this is a pretty typical scene you can find anywhere at the river's edge where kentucky, illinois and missouri meet up. the good news is that the flood waters in these areas seem to have stabilized since the army corps of engineers made that somewhat radical move of blasting the big holes in the levy to create a floodway. and that was the latest blast, about noon yesterday. they are planning one more blast today. one we're waiting on is for the explosives to arrive. what these blasts do is relieve the pressure, where
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the swollen ohio and mississippi rivers are meeting up, and the concern right now, actually, looking at what has happened, in some of the key areas like cairo, illinois, you saw the flood waters drop about a foot, in most places the flood waters just stopped going up and the estimated crest is going to be about 3 feet lower than it could have been at its worst and they're hoping it will be enough to keep these towns dry. the problem with this system, where they blast holes in the levy, ultimately all of the water reenters the mississippi, so now the concern shifts south to place like carrothersville, missouri, all of the little towns have to start bracing for impending floods. jon: plus they're going to have to rebuild those levees at some point, right? they've blown those holes in them. >> exactly. they have to rebuild them and they're actually kind of complicated because they're designed to be blon up, so when they build them, they build them with a pipe system in there so they can ultimately fill them with explosives and do this all
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over again if flood levels come to a record level again. jon: mike tobin, thank you. jenna: we're talking a lot about attorney general eric holder, on capitol hill talking about usama bin laden and the kill of that terror leader. in the meantime, he's facing some tough criticism, some calls for him to resign, after a federal program put guns in the hands of customers linked to mexican during cartels. we have the details on that straight ahead. get more on today's hottest stories by going to our website, check out foxnews.com, click on the most read tabs for the latest details. we'll see you back here in three minutes.
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jenna: a fox news alert, want to bring up to date on this attack in turkey we told you about a short while ago. we have brand new video of the aftermath of this attack one police officer is dead, two others injured, in what was a very aggressive attack by this group of militants. we have no idea who they
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are, no one has claimed responsibility, but apparently according to local reports there, one militant threw a grenade, the others opened fire on a campaign bus. this is shortly after an election rally for the prime minister there. he had already left the area, but the campaign bus was on the road. you can see this mountainous road weaving through traffic and that's when the attack happened. again, no one claiming responsibility. one police officer, dead, two others, injured. more information as we get it. jon: taking another look at america's third war, the attorney general, eric holder, front and center on capitol hill today. he's been answering questions from the senate judiciary committee on project gun runner, a federal program that allowed more than 1000 guns to go into mexico illegally and into the hands of drug cartel members. mexico says hundreds of people died as a result of those guns. the nra is calling on holder
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to resign. william la jeunesse, live in los angeles with more on that. william. >> reporter: well jon, the project began to unravel when one whistleblower had the guts to come forward and say this is wrong. it is a full blown scandal and major embarrassment to the administration. the president, the attorney general, has said they have agreed to an internal investigation, but many in congress say that's not good enough. and this upcoming case may illustrate why. one atf agent who saw an internal investigation of his case gets swept under the rug. >> after two years under cover with the hell's angels, atf agent jay dobbins game a star witness against them and target of their revenge. >> we know who you are, we know where you live. >> the atf promised to protect dobbins but didn't. the motorcycle gang burned down his house with his family in it. >> they abandoned us, they ignored us. >> dobbins filed a complaint against his own agency. the office of inspector general investigated, concluding that the atf
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acted recklessly, needlessly and inappropriately, then failed to hold anyone accountable. >> when i made those complaints to the atf, they were expired ignored, entirely white washed and they left the same people in place to conduct project gun runner. >> project gun runner is atf's latest scandal, it allegedl allowed more than 1800 guns to cross into mexico, illegally. >> they're dead americans vul of this failed and reckless program. >> that was a great exception -- i take great exception to what you just said, the notion that somehow or other this justice department is responsible for those deaths that you mentioned, that assertion is offensive and i want to tell you that it's -- >> attorney general eric holder told jut inspector general investigation is adequate. dobbsins says it's not. >> the agency, atf, does not care what doig says, they do not care what the oig's conclusions are. jon: dobbins says that,
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because his case was run out of the phoenix atf office and the same officials who the oig investigation recommended get disciplined were left in place by this administration, now they are charged or are at least believed to be guilty, if you will, of running project gun runner. jon, eric holder right now is on the hill and so senator grassley is asking the same questions of the attorney general. jon: that agent, dobbins, whose house was burned down with his family in it, did they get out okay? >> >> reporter: they got out. he was not there at the time. his son heard the glass breaking, got his mother and sister out, and the dog out of the house, but it was burned to the ground and that is -- they are asking for protection and never really got it. back to you. jon: what a mess. william la jeunesse, thanks. jenna: well, talking a little politics now, the latest job approval numbers show the president after the killing of usama bin laden, look at politics and this administration and as they
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move towards the 2012 election. how long do they stay around? what does this say about the biggest topic -- topics yet ahead. >> firefighters rushing to save a man from a massive attack by insects? an incredible story for you, just ahead.
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jon: a fox news alert. we're going to take you to key best contain off the coast of miami where a rescue is underway, harbor lane and harbor court, the location, that's a container truck, that blue sort of
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metallic wall, center top of your screen, that's a shipping container, they pulled it off of a vessel by crane and put it on wheels, essentially and off it goes. well, somehow there was a worker, we believe, inside that shipping container, when some construction and other materials inside the container shifted and trapped the guy. his condition, we do not know at this point. but you can see that firefighters have had to cut through, cut a hole through the wall of that container, and that is heavy steel. they cut through the wall of the container to this guy to get him out. it appears he is not yet out, because you see the triage tarp on the ground, and he is not on it. when we get more information
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on it we'll bring it to you state away. jenna: apparently construction equipment, scaffolding equipment, all of that inside that truck. really not something you want to be caught by. more as jon said in a moment on that. we're one day away from the first republican debate, the 2012 presidential campaign, south carolina is playing host to that big event and some are already wondering who the state's gop leaders will endorse. chief political correspondent is live in greenville, south carolina. so carl, why south carolina, why is south carolina particularly important when this comes to this gop race? >> reporter: it's got a long history of having no presidential nominee on the republican side has ever won the nomination without first wining in south carolina going back to 1980, it is the first in the south and that makes it crucial, and as for who the republican leaders will endorse perhaps they'll get a better idea after they watch the debate, but there rebound absences, the likes of saia palin, donald trump, mike huckabee, newt gingrich, are not coming and it's not going
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over well with some important republicans in the pal metro state. we talked with the chairman of the gop statewide and she made it clear they're really kind of angry about it. >> there is an arrogance that's abounding right now with some of these candidates and the state of south carolina is a perfect conduit that will select someone that goes out, works hard, shakes hands and says this is what i'm about, not about buying elections. >> reporter: retail politics is key in south carolina, the voters here insist on meeting the candidates, kicking the tires and finding out what they're about. the quinnipiac poll talks about what the issues are about, 58 percent of those polled nationwide say they will never, never vote for sarah palin, that same number, 58 percent say they'll never vote for donald trump, 42 percent say they'll never vote for former house speaker news gingrich, 32 percent say they won't vote for mike huckabee who came in second
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in 2008 and 26 percent say they will not vote for mitt romney. it raises real questions, jenna, if those important gop leaders are looking to endorse someone, don't you think they'd want to come here? they all have their various excuses they won't be here. tim pawlenty, former minnesota governor is in iowa, enroute here tomorrow and he made it clear he thinks it's time for the white house hopefuls to get off the sidelines, jenna. jenna: let's say, for example, just speculating, carl, that trump decides to get into the race. how does he make it out to the -- make it up to the people in south carolina? >> reporter: it's very, very difficult. the early voting state voters in iowa, first of the nation caucuses, new hampshire, the first primary, and south carolina are fickle and they are very demanding i they've got a long history of testing candidates and winnowing the field down to the last two before the south carolina primary takes place. it will likelihood happen in the first three weeks of january next year. somebody like donald trump may have lots of money and name recognition but voters here aren't looking for celebrity, they're looking
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for leaders, and the only way they ever find that out is by spending time to check the policy and issues. governor nickly haley said it's not about coming down here with your entowerrages and marketing consultant, you've got to come with formulated ideas and polices and not bluster and do the work and a lot of them haven't begun yet. jenna: there may be free rides on that trump helicopter. may not be enough! we'll see. it will be interesting to see the antics. big debate there. thank you, carl cameron in south carolina. that is, of course, where the presidential debate, the first one of 2012, the republican an presidential debate -- the republican presidential debates takes place, 9:00 p.m. eastern time. you don't want to miss it. jon: new information now, president obama's poll numbers are getting a major boost. why? you guessed it, the killing of usama bin laden, "the new york times"-cbs poll shows an 11-point jump from two weeks ago. so what does it mean, and how long might it last? larry sabato is director of
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the center for politics at the university of virginia, he is also the author of the book "pendulum swing". so the president was in some political trouble for a guy running for reelection as of a couple of weeks ago. obviously, this has done good things in terms of what americans think of the job he's doing, right larry? >> well, it has, temporarily. you know, this would have been a great october surprise in 2012, but appropriately, the president and his team took action when they had the opportunity. but look, these things come and go, even really important things like this. you're going to get a bump this week. i suggested on sunday night, actually, it would be about ten points, it would go from mid 40s to mid 50s, if you average out the polls, it's mid 50s. we also know that these bumps stay within a couple of months -- stay within a couple of months, if not sooner. jon: taking a look at history, president george w. bush had an approval rating
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on september 10th, 2001, a poll taken at the time, the approval rating was 51 percent, then after the 9/11 attacks it jumped to 86 percent and ten days or so later, 90 percent. that's the kind of thing that americans i guess, the kind of -- i don't know, how do you want to put it, popularity, the kind of credit americans give a president who is handling a difficult situation. >> yes. and of course, we were attacked and we were at war, and in war situations, you do have that kind of almost u animinity. franklin roosevelt had it, others had it, at least when we were attacked. now, remember, voters can walk and chew gum at the same time, they can salute a president for a great action like took place on sunday, but they can also have a separate view entirely of a president's performance on the economy. jon: right. >> while you never know, i would project, i think most people project that the election of 2012 will be an
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election about the economy. so people are unhappy about high gases and high unemployment and food inflation coming back, slow growth, all of these things in the end will matter more to the outcome of the presidential election than this capture -- this killing, rather, as wonderful as it was. jon: right. it was a gutsy call, there was no guarantee of success, but succeed he did. now i'm sure that his political advisers are wishing he could wave some kind of a presidential magic wand and get prices -- gas prices under four bucks and unemployment down to 4 percent, 5 percent. >> well, navy seals don't do that. they do a lot of amazing things. jon: there are only 2000 of them, larry! >> it's possible. jon: larry sabato, director of the center for politics at the university of virginia, larry, thanks. jenna: right now, in washington, republicans are rethinking how businesses pay taxes. why democrats may end up agreeing with them on corporate tax reform, and
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jon: i'm jon scott. in our intake room with some of the satellite feeds happening now. looking at key biscayne, florida, on remoat 273 where they're trying to rescue a
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man trapped in back of a truck under a pile of construction debris that shifted. 289, david lee miller standing by live in tripoli waiting to give us a report on rebels under attack in the city of misurata. going over here to the white house, president obama, we just talked about, enjoying a surge in popularity. he is coming to new york tomorrow and just above that, remote 244, take a look at met trop police, illinois, flooded now, in fact on purpose because of the blowing up of the levees along the mississippi river. we'll have live reports on all of those stories coming up, "happening now". jenna? jenna: a lot of news today, jon. let's take a time to talk a little bit about your money. there is word that the white house is quietly gearing up for the next major battle on capitol hill and this battle is over corporate tax reform. both sides of the aisle are hoping to lower the taxes
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lower corporate taxes. among provisions lower the corporate tax rates, 35%, hidest in the world, 30%, to 26%. what do the numbers all mean? we have the founder and ceo of matson money. you managed $2.3 billion worth of money. nice sized fund, mark. >> thank you. >> what is your reaction when you hear the corporate tax rates could be lowered to 26%? >> i'm skeptical n theory this is one of the great things. we have highest corporate taxes on 35%. 5% for state that is 40%. compared to central europe, they're at 24, 25%. we're very, very high on a global basis. if you want jobs to come to america, you want to grow the economy, you have to have low tax rates for your corporations to grow. jenna: if we saw lower tax rates for corporations would that mean instant job growth? >> i think we should go one further. i think we should eliminate corporate taxes all together. it is onerous tax. you have taxes on corporations. you have taxes on investors
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get dividends. today we're all investors because we owe mutual funds. if we did we have unemployment 3, 4%. jenna: no corporate, at thatting for either party, that is impossible. >> i don't have to live in the political world. i can talk about theories and --. jenna: but that being said, you think lowering corporate taxes wouldn't bring, you know, a full flow of jobs into the economy? >> remember, president obama said it is going to be neutral. his proposition is neutral. which means there is going to be some winners and some losers. but if you're going to have growth, it needs to go down. he will take away deductions. he will take away writeoffs and --. jenna: when we cut taxes consumers are hit because they have higher gas price. they cut payroll tax, difficult, tax. but all the other costs are going up so it kind of evens out. >> biggest problem we have is unememployment stuck at 8 or 9%. we have to find a way to get people pack to work.
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we have to get lower tax. >> we have the debt ceiling debate. they say they will talk about the corporate taxes in may and june. we're come being of course big monument in our country the kill of usama bin laden. all the things are happening with the market and investors at the same time. how do you sort through it? what do you think. >> the killing of usama bin laden was absolutely brilliant. i will give, i've been a vocal critic of the president. on this one i say, attaboy, that is the right thing to do. not only was it the right thing to do but it stands for freedom and free markets. if we're going to get this economy going and growing we have to have free markets and competition and you have to have free trade globally. anything that hits away at terrorism. makes it safer globally to transact business will be good for america. jenna: interesting take real quick here, what is the next thing you're watching for in the economy? >> i'm watching for, are we actually going to have ill that will cut this deficit spending -- leadership. the reality politicians want to make it sound
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complicated. it is not. if you have a debt problem at home first thing you do cut up the credit cards and look where you stop spending that is what we have to stop doing if we're going to be fiscally responsible and be a bastion for free markets. jenna: always nice to have you on the set. mark matson. jon, have you cut up your credit cards? jon: i definitely should. thanks, jenna. some new developments to bring you from the battle still raging in libya. government forces today shelling the port of misurata. their fellow citizens. an international aid ship sent to evacuate refugees was docked there. they say al qaeda could try to get its hands on weapons from that war-torn country. david lee miller is streaming live from tripoli for us right now. david? >> reporter: jon, tripoli is 120 miles from misurata and it is difficult to get information here from authorities. in fact they are denying
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recent reports that the port had been mined. they wouldn't comment on those reports. there is information coming from the ground now as a humanitarian ship was docked, the red star 1, moammar qaddafi forces shelled the port of misurata. the shelling reportedly killed four people, a man, a woman, and two children. some of the aid from that ship was delivered to misurata and some 800 people were able to board, many of them migrant workers and injured libyans an journalists that would like to leave the city. they are now reportedly enroute to the rebel stronghold of benghazi. recently 12,000 people have fled the city of misurata using 12 ships but there is still significant number of others who have been left behind a number of them tried to board that ship today and they were unable to do so. and the libyan government has said time and time again that the rebels are being supported by al qaeda. the government here in
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tripoli has repeat ily blamed al qaeda for much of the attacks taking place against the qaddafi regime. but yesterday the libyan deputy foreign minister refused to either condemn or in any way to congratulate the obama administration for its actions leading to the death of usama bin laden. meanwhile french officials are now saying that some of the weapons here in libya have been able to make their way to the north african franchise of al qaeda very quickly. specifically, authorities are saying that assault rifles, rockets and rocket launchers taken from the libyan government are now in the hands of al qaeda fighters in north africa. jon? jon: that sounds like bad news for sure. david lee miller in tripoli, thank you. jenna: back stateside now the tornado outbreak down south causing horrific destruction in alabama. we're continuing to watch recovery there. how leaders are looking at lessons from a past tragedy
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jenna: right now southern states ravaged by a powerful tornados are looking to a small town in kansas for help. back in 2007 the entire town of greensburg was wiped out by a ef-5 tornado. that is the highest, most powerful tornado there is. now today it is a vibrant community again. how did they come back over the last four years? alicia acuna is live from greensburg, kansas, with more on this. >> reporter: general at that the -- jenna the folks here say it was faith and a lot of work. this is the new main street of greensburg. while people we talk to say there have been bumps along the way, just look at the results. the wind turbines, solar panels and the world's highest per capita concentration of geothermal wells were not a part of greensburg until nearly two-mile wide tornado tore apart 95% of town. >> disasters happen. it is how you deal with it.
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>> reporter: mayor bob dixon says they became a laboratory for sustainable living, and a tourist attraction for the environmentally aware. >> do you want, wheat white or sourdough broad? >> reporter: kerri and her husband jim never imagined they would move back to greensburg or own a cafe but the fresh green start was a selling.. >> in the condition greensburg in was before the tornado we would not have made a decision. a coffee shop like this would not have survived just the way greensburg was. >> reporter: the success of greensburg prompted fema to call it a model and advice for survivors in folks in newly tornado-ravaged areas. >> be careful who you hire, how you pay them and make sure you get performance for your pay. >> reporter: a lot of lessons and wind ture prince which are -- turbines which are trophies of tenacity. >> the wind that blew us away, might be the wind that might be salvation of and growth of this city through alternative energies. >> reporter: now, jenna
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there are folks here in greensburg who are organizing now to head southeast, to tuscaloosa to help residents there. jenna? jenna: wow an amazing story. we can hear the wind through your microphone, alisa, ironic that is helping them recover. alicia acuna live in kansas. jon: good to see them coming back. good people in kansas. jenna: love that story. jon: for sure. there is disturbing news to tell you about an a rapid increase of asthma cases all across the country, adults and children are affected. dr. marc siegel from our fox news medical a-team is joining us. he is here to tell us what's behind it. to keep in balance after 50,
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jon: well, now that usama bin laden is dead, what impact might his killing have on the war in afghanistan? let's talk about it with phillip mud, a former cia counter-terrorist analyst and fbi intelligence advisor. one administration official who did not want to be named, phillip, said this changes everything. it's the beginning of the endgame for u.s. involvement in afghanistan. do you see it that way? >> i do. i think we think about this chapter in the book, in terms of the question about whether we'll see al qaeda operations in the near term. i think that's the wrong question to ask. the question we face is, we're fighting not just a terrorist group but a revolutionary organization. this is the messenger for the revolution. the revolution was already dying already across islamic world where people saw al qaeda kill so many muslims. jon: we went into
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afghanistan in large part because mullah omar who was in charge of the taliban there, in charge of country, he wasn't helping out in handing over bin laden. now that bin laden is dead, mullah omar, wherever he is hiding has to be wondering whether the seals will be pounding on his door? >> i he probably is. you're talking about a different kettle of fish. afghanistan is counterinsurgency campaign where looking to hold swath of territory against a very well-entrenched adversary. fight in pakistan, we're looking for point targets, en10, 20, 30 people plotting against the united states. this isn't about territory. this is about people. we got the big one. jon: the french already suggested that the death of bin laden might lead them to be pulling their troops out. does it signal that we could do the same thing? that the troop withdrawal that president obama has already suggested signaled for the beginning in july that is going to be accelerated as well? >> heard comments like this. i simply don't understand this logic.
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look we've got two things going on here. we've got a fight against terrorism that is captured by battle defined people in the travel areas of pakistan. in this case in a city not far from islamabad. we have separate battle to the west across the court per in afghanistan trying to hold territory against people who provided safe haven for al qaeda 10 years ago. there is geographic battle in afghanistan. there is battle against individual terrorists in pakistan. these are two different kettles of fish. i don't know why we're confusing them. jon: phillip mudd. former counterterrorism analyst at cia. thank you. >> my pleasure. jenna: breaking medical news now. a troubling new report from the centers for disease control. asthma rates rising dramaticly over the past decade and dr. marc siegel from our fox news medical a-team is joining us now. also author of the new book, the inner pulse we wanted to get in there as well. >> how are you? jenna: why, why are asthma rates gone so much higher?. >> 20 million to 25 million in the past decade. asthma means over reactive lungs or inflamed lungs.
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why is it happening? air pollution is possibility. more allergies is possibility. something called hygiene hypothesis we're not getting exposed to enough dirt or bacteria when we're young. our immune system overreacts as a result. asthma is very scary disease. jenna: some of us it is allergy season. we're interesting trouble breathe are or having certain reactions of the how do you know you have asthma versus a really bad allergy. >> that is great question. the most important thing, are you having trouble breathing or wheezing? the most prominent system is you have a chronic cough and don't know where it is coming from. go to see your physician. it is very easy to test for asthma. if you have it we have great treatments we didn't have before. bronco dial regulators, steroid i will hain he willers. you can get easily treated. exercises brings it on. if you are work out or start to cuff or trouble breathing. jenna: that is not in order to stop working out though? >> no. it is an order to work out
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but see your physician. jenna: like the common cold, no cure? >> no cure but plenty of good treatments. some is avoiding. environmental pollutantstae say way from them. if it is allergy. we're learning how to deal with it. jenna: at least there is optimism there. >> absolutely. jenna: try to get out of exercise. >> never. jenna: dr. siegel, thanks very much. >> thanks very much. jenna: we'll be right back with more "happening now" [ male announcer ] look outside. it's grow time.
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