looking out for you. closed captioning by closed captioning services, inc. >> sean: casey marie anthony found not guilty of murdering her two year daughter. in addition to being found not guilty of first degree murder she was acquitted of manslaughter and aggravated child because. she was found guilty of providing false information to law enforcement. here's how it all went down earlier today in orlando, florida. >> good afternoon ladies and gentlemen of the jury. have you reached a verdict? >> yes. >> would you hand the form to the court deputy, please. would the defendant rise with counsel. mad tam clerk, -- madame clerk, you may publish the verdicts. >> as to the charge of first degree murder, verdict as to count one, we the jury find

the defendant not guilty. so say we all. orlando, orange county florida on this 5th day of july, 2011. signed foreperson. as to the charge of aggravated child abuse, verdict as to count two, we the jury find the defendant not guilty. as to the charge of aggravated manslaughter of a child, verdict as to count three, we the jury find the defendant not guilty so say we all, dated orlando, orange county, florida, 5th day of july, 201011 -- 2011. verdict as to count four, we the defendant find the defendant guilty as to the charge of providing false information to law enforcement officer. verdict as to count five, we the jury find the defendant guilty as to the charge of providing false information to a law enforcement officer. verdict as to count six, we the jury find defendant not -- i'm sorry, we the jury find

the defendant guilty as to the charge of providing false information to a law enforcement officer. verdict as to count 7, we the jury find the defendant guilty of providing false information to a law -- law enforcement officers charged in the indictment. >> sean: joining me with reaction host of justice with judge jeanine, janine peer row host of geraldo at large, geraldo rivera. good to see you both. -- i have to tell you something to both of you. i can't believe how wrong and ignorant and irresponsible at times commentators and how pro prosecution they've been in this case. geraldo, i had my doubts about jose baez in the beginning. i thought his opening was below par. his closing ripped to shreds issue by issue the prosecution's defense. i thought it was one of the most brilliant closes i ever saw. reaction? >> well, i absolutely agree

with you sean. but, i think what jose success man managed to do is -- successfully managed to do is he separated in the jury's mind. he asked them to separate their emotion, their absolute distaste over this defendant and her lifestyle and her narcissism and her selfishness and her partying on the grave of her child, whether the child died by accident in the swimming pool or by her own hand in a homicide or by the hand of someone else in a homicide. he managed to try the jury -- to pry the jury loose what what happened after the child died. and had them focus on the facts and circumstances that led up to that child's death and whether or not the state proved beyond the exclusion of all reasonable doubt, that this defendant committed the crime she was accused of. clearly, the jury saw right through it. and they said not only have

you overcharged but you have not proven your case. >> sean: judge, let me bring you in. when this case came out, we saw the 31 days and the way the mother reacted. it was beyond human understanding, for me and others. there was an assumption. the lies about the nanny. the lies about the job at universal. the lies about the rich boyfriend. at that point, it seems inconvertible, everybody assumed. the standard, she was proven found guilty of lying. the standard of proof was on the prosecution. and at every step of the way, we can go through all of it from the shovel to the smell in the car. it was either totally impeached or contradicted by the defense. in that sense, we still don't know how caylee died. we still don't know how the body was transported. we still don't know how it got there. they did not prove their case, judge. >> look, what you've got here

is a case where a 2-year-old's body is found in a swamp, triple garbage bagged and thrown away as if it didn't matter at all. she did not commit suicide. she did not die of old age. she did not have a terminal illness. the question is, what happened to caylee? there's no question that now that the jury has made a decision, that this defendant is to be acquitted on all major counts, as it relates to the death of this child, that you are right, we will never know. let me tell you what happened here today. what happened is, in this csi age where everyone expects fingerprints, dna, in a case where there is no eyewitness, there is no videotape, the victim is dead and cannot come back and testify, we are sending a message that old fashioned circumstantial evidence does not >> sean: judge -- >> no let me finish.

>> sean: this is too important. i'm not looking for csi evidence. the fact she being acted so inappropriately is who are rant to me. the fact she partied is abhorrent to me, she was found guilty of lying to law enforcement. if the standard is on the prosecution you gotta give me evidence if i'm on that jury, you tell me where the evidence is that she committed the murder of this daughter? >> it is all about motive, means, tune. >> what san diego motive? >> let -- let me finish the last person with the kyle was the mother. duct tape, canvass -- bag. everything that was connected with the throwing away of the body is connected to casey anthony. the motive is she was dating tony, he didn't want the child sleeping overnight. the mother said you are not going to leave it with me -- >> this loving adoring mother, new boyfriend, she killed her daughter? >> it has to be a certain

color, certain look, because she looks so sweet that she can't be guilty? >> if this were an inner city woman and same facts she never would have been charged with capital mur. i was the pretty girl police. >> are you -- saying this is reverse discrimination? >> i do. >> this is about caylee, a little girl who is dead. [ talking over each other ] >> sean: wait a minute. judge, judge you are doing the same thing the prosecution here. i'm asking you for hard evidence to -- >> i'm giving it to you. >> let me finish. the standard is you got to prove to a jury. i watched every second of closing arguments and i watched hours upon hours of testimony. everything the defense brought up. obviously these commentators did not watch in or they are that dumb, ignorant and prejudice. it was so overwhelming how baez and cheney mason ripped apart every argument about did

this mother kill this little girl? there was no evidence to support it. >> is the question, did they prove it? i was in that courtroom. i obviously yield to the jury here. here we have searches for chloroform that the mother was shown, when she tried to take responsibility for those searches, she was found to be a liar. >> grandma. >> grandma, i'm sorry the defendant's . all of the evidence that the baby's body was found with, was from the home that the mother had a connection to. >> sean: let me bring geraldo back in. >> who delivered the body to the swamp? >> is there a scintilla of evidence that it was the accused? no. >> is there a scintilla of evidence geraldo that she was not -- [ talking over each other ] >> where was lee anthony? what about the baby's daddy. >> maybe the boogie man did it. >> sean: maybe the father did it. one point to quote her

attorney baez, okay they painted her as a slut, party girl, as a liar. but there's no evidence that proves she killed her daughter. listen, this is what separates us janine from other countries. this is not mob law here. because she reacted in a way that i can't explain and because she lied, did not prove that she killed this girl. >> sean, the only person who called her a slut was her lawyer. the prosecution was showing a consciousness of guilt the way she behaved afterwards. what i'm talking about and i've charged juries on in guys, you have to prove the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. >> sean: they didn't meet the standard. >> the jury said it didn't. >> if it rains at night and your lawn is wet and the street is wet, you didn't see it rain >> sean: i'm sorry, you cannot say, the jury heard this evidence, they heard it, they know what the law is and they did their duty. if i was on that after

watching the closing arguments and seeing every bit of evidence impeached, totally and outright or contradicted, where there is reasonable doubt. they have not convinced me. there's a part of me that still thinks she may have been involved. she wasn't found innocent today. she was found not guilty because the evidence didn't reach the standard. these are distinct and different things. i want justice for caylee. i want to know who did this. and i want to find them and i want that person to get the death penalty. geraldo had an interview with the defense attorney and we'll get to that when we get back. more with judge pirro and geraldo re, right after this break. -- >> as the verdict has been recent didded, we ask our community to respect the decision the jury and court have made today. in doing so, we ask for your

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. >> while we're happy for casey, there are no-winners in this case. caylee has passed on far, far too soon. >> sean: that was casey anthony's defense attorney jose baez addressing the media

after the not guilty verdict was delivered earlier today. we continue with judge jeanine pirro and geraldo rivera. geraldo you had an interview with jose baez. i thought you asked the defining question. if casey didn't kill little caylee, who did? let's roll that tape. >> the biggest question among people that you know and in this community and across the country and the world is, if casey anthony didn't kill this child, who did kill this child? >> i think that all came out in the trial. that this was a horrible tragedy. an accident that snowballed out of control. it doesn't get any more clearer than that. the jury saw that and there they are the ones that heard the evidence not the propaganda and speculation and the frankenstein-like lynch mob that ensued throughout the last three years. but, they her the evidence.

what -- they heard the evidence, what our system is based on. >> sean: that lynch mob, i think people seeing the atrocious comment of casey had every right to be out ed. she didn't report this to the police. her conduct dancing is obscene to me. the question is he is admitting an accident occurred. and that it snow bawled out of control. in other word -- snowballed out of control. in other words, he's indicating that they know what happened, right? >> he's indicating what we think his client told him, we have no proof of we won't know unless someone asks jose and he won't tell. it is going to be up to casey anthony to set the record straight. look at those dastardly 84 computer searches for chloroform. it turns out there was one search, for three minutes. and for three years we've heard about the heart-shaped stickers on the tape and how

obscene that is, how disgusting that is, how dare this woman suffocate her baby and put a heart-shaped sticker. turns out the heart shape sticker did not exist. if a grown-up is going to suffocate a child, are you going to do it with tape or the pillow? which leaves no evidence at all, it is not so exotic. it defied logic. i'm not going to be one of these smarty pants who says i saw this coming. i did not. i never thought they would get capital mur, second degree murder i think did they would get aggravated manslaughter, it is more likely than not that the state had it right and the mother was totally, exclusively or partially responsible for the death of this child. knowing ain't proving. >> sean: the media coverage was obscene. judge, i'm watching some of the coverage. who won today, was it the defense or the prosecution?

and you know, totally absent in all of this is the real gut that this young girl lost her life. i want to be clear here judge, i think something is amiss here. but i also believe in the rule of law. they must prove that she murdered this girl. and in spite of my suspicions -- >> sean no one is saying we shouldn't follow the law. we have lived by the the law and will continue to do so. who called 911 looking for this child? who tracked casey down? we have all this innuendo, all this suggestion about what happened. >> sean: where is the evidence that she did it not the father, not some other person? >> because it was her car. >> sean: because it is her car that makes her guilty? >> you are not letting me finish. >> sean: go ahead, i'm sorry. >> it is a link of evidence. it is not one piece but each

piece taken together as a connected whole. >> sean: put it together for us. >> you've got duct tape from the house. blanket from the house. you've got a canvass bag that was a coffin and the bar bag. you've got her car smelling with the smell of death. you have her freaking out at some point, lying to the police. consciousness of guilt. you know what sean, what you were saying is that if there is not a videotape, and if there is no dna on the duct tape, by the way -- >> sean: the chlorophyll was contradicted by numerous people. >> seven witnesses. >> sean: no benefit casey anthony. you say these things were taken from her house. how do you know she took it and not the father? >> i don't. >> that's it. >> that's it! >> if you admit that then -- >> you know what guys, if you

want to prove -- >> i don't want to pick on you. >> pick on me i don't care. i'm worried about a 2-year-old thrown away like garbage. i've lived by the constitution. i've charged juries. i know what reasonable doubt is, i blow what a binding conviction of guilt is. this jury didn't have it. >> they tried to get casey anthony to plead to a lesser charge from the get-go. they begged her to take a lesser charge. criminally negligent homicide, reckless homicide. and she didn't. why did she risk her very life, death row? >> she's a hero now? [ talking over each other ] >> sean: gotta run here. i love you both. look, i wanted to believe it was her, judge. i still suspect she is up to her eyeballs in this. i watched so much of this trial and i watched these closing arguments. and this defense team, which i

had a lot about in the beginning, tore every single issue apart. and they created doubt on every issue, which is their job. i felt the prosecution was weak in closing and they had no substantial evidence. i don't think giving you the ball here, you were able to convince me. i could have been somebody else taking these things. >> it could have been someone else. but who had the motive, means and opportunity? >> sean: a lot of people. >> a lot of people wanted to kill this child? >> a lot of people had the means and opportunity. >> what you've got is -- [ talking over each other ] >> there's only one person who is dead here and one person who benefited and wrote a beautiful life, when it was all over. >> maybe that meant she was memorializing her child. >> she threw her away in a garbage bag that's memorializing a 2-year-old

child >> nothing, zero! >> the body decomposed because it was in a swamp, that's why there is no dna. [ talking over each other ] >> sean: i gotta run guys, thank you very much. i want justice for this little girl. i think we all agree on that. i want to find out and get to the bottom line. >> so many people feel casey anthony was guilty. did the evidence just not add this up for the jurors? >> plus an attorney who served as a consultant for casey anthony's defense team he joins me. that and much more. does that in. new citracal slow release... continuously releases calcium plus d for the efficient absorption my body needs. citracal.

at this time, there are no jurors interested in speaking to any member of the media. they do however, have your packets and they've asked for

their privacy. they will contact you, if they are interested in speaking to you. >> sean: that was the orange county court's public information officer telling the press that the jury in the case lee anthony murder trial who acquitted casey earlier today, decided they would not speak after delivering their verdict. the question is, how did these 12 jurors come to the conclusion that casey anthony is innocent? here to help answer the question a jury consultant susan constantine and former prosecutor. guys welcome. no dna on the double tape. we still don't know what caused this little girl's death, at this point. the smell issue in the car was disputed in a timeframe that frankly was exculpatory towards casey anthony if everyone wants to look at the timeline. the shovel issue was disputed

in different ways. only borrowed 45 minutes she didn't come back sweaty. the cause of death we don't know. how did she die? how did she get into the woods? how, when, why, where? never resolved. i ask you help me out why is everyone angry at the jury? >> great question sean. i'm not sure why everyone is angry at the jury. the thing is, they did their job. i think from everything that we've seen, she got a fair trial. i may not love the outcome, but what was put before the jury beyond a reasonable doubt is a high standard. i thought they were going to gehman slaughter because the jurors were going to be outraged that a mom didn't report her daughter missing for over thirty days. they are isolated, in a bubble. they don't see everything we see. jurors use life experience, common sense, they weigh what was put before them. i believe they took beyond a reasonable doubt very seriously.

>> sean: constantine, i agree the 31 days kills me, i don't get it. not reporting it kills me. the lie about the boyfriend, universal, unanswered. the nanny, unanswered. but the standard is very clear. the judge's instructions were very clear. whatever evidence was presented, in this case, was contradicted or totally impeached by the defense. therefore, i don't see how they could have come to another conclusion. >> help me out. >> what i'm seeing with the jury is what they did was they didn't find some of the witnesses credible. there was so much information. they were inundated with forensic evidence. my god i think there was 80 something witnesses. these are just average people. they are average people chosen to be on this jury trying to sift through this minutia and when it came down to it, they

go, we don't know. that's what happened. that's what i think happened with this jury. they couldn't come with a verdict of guilty, because there was too many things and obstacles in the way that said i can't cross the i and dot the t. it was the credibility of the witnesses. >> sean: i meant to call you susan, i apologize. kelly this is the thing about our system. wayne to get to the answer here. all of those things about -- all of those things about casey that disturb everybody and raised real suspicion. i didn't go along with the defense attorney saying there's a mob mental -- mentality and people were speculating. they were speculating because of her life, the way she was reacting and the lies she told. but that doesn't convict somebody of murder. can you give me one case for the prosecution made a rock solid case, tying her to this murder? >> no, you are absolutely

right there wasn't dna evidence. there wasn't solid forensic evidence. this was all circumstantial, that's the problem. the second thing this was such an over zealous prosecution by first degree by going for the death penalty and not something lower as the high mark. the entire time the jury is thinking, not only do we have to go beyond a reasonable. when we do, she might die. that's in their mind. they've been prequalified as jurors, can you convict someone and sentence them to death? there was a two-fold prong to pass to be on this jury. i think there's not solid, direct evidence linking her. they are looking for an out and doing their job. the prosecution raised just as many questions as the defense. i agree with susan, when there's unanswered questions, how do you say beyond a reasonable doubt there's no other explanation? that's the problem. >> sean: that's why i think

this jury is being attacked. as somebody who watched much of this trial susan, in particular, i thought the closing arguments by the defense extraordinarily effective. this notion of fantasy forensic. you are the first ones in the state of florida to hear and go through a list of forensic science, newly created for this case, never brought up before. and the jury -- it didn't convince me. and i'm very pro prosecution. i still many very suspicious of casey in this case. like everybody else because of the lies, i wanted to believe it. they didn't even take me to first base. >> okay. i was working on profiling these jurors. we had a jury pool that was split. 58% of that jury was really -- they could bring a conviction forward. we had the other that were more egalitarian when he put them in the room together and

you have that reasonable doubt they are going to say we have to come to some sort of compromise because we are so far an -- far apart. 61% of all jurors are visual. what did baez do an excellent presentation, outstanding, he had every player that was up there. and we know that jurors aren't auditory. when you are listening -- >> sean: and the prosecution meandered and meandered. i was so emotional. they never said, we found this. this proves that she is responsible. all of that had been either impeached, or contradicted, one or the other there. was not onening in the end that i can cling to that said, -- one thing in the end that i can cling to that said that's it for me. i think why people are so angry is because, she lied and because of her behavior. but these two things, as awful

and horrific as they were, do not prove murder. >> and they don't meet the burden, which is a very high burr. they don't meet beyond a reasonable doubt. the other kicker is, the prosecution's closing was very boring. did it meander. it didn't draw anything new. what happened is the prosecution said here's what you saw. some of what he proffered in as his argument isn't what they actually saw. we know that jurors are based on real people, eyewitnesses or some of the most unreliable evidence in the country, probably in the world, and so they are all walking back hearing different things than what you heard, what i heard. it is like a game of telephone. collectively, when they got in the back they all didn't hear right thing to say beyond a reasonable doubt she is going down, we are going to convict her. they had no choice but to convict her for the lying to the authorities, because she admitted it. >> sean: everybody in orlando has a right to be mad for this reason, they shouldn't be mad

at the jury. i think they have a right to be mad to casey anthony for her behavior, as it relates to her lies, her not reporting it, her dancing. maybe she's got problems beyond which we know. this is what separates america. and the people that are commenting on this, with almost a football super bowl atmosphere about her guilt, didn't listen for the evidence. and that's what makes our system better, unique, not perfect, but special. you're innocent until proven guilty. it is the prosecutor's responsibility and sole responsibility to make that proof and they did not meet that standard here. >> she got a fair trial, a tkpwraoel. i don't think the prosecution has any -- good grounds to appeal. i'm not saying they are not going to try. most of the rulings were more pro-prosecution. there were a lot of things the defense didn't get in. when the defense complained, the judge all right i'm going to give you a break, depose,

do what you need to dom. i think the judge did a phenomenal job of trying to let stuff in he thought was fair. the things the defense complained about, obviously didn't make a deciding factor o'for. >> sean: jose baez did a good job. he was thinking -- worst-case scenario. >> some speculate with cindy anthony's testimony helped acquit casey. next, cindy and george's reaction from inside the courtroom as their daughter's verdict was delivered. hey, dad, you think i could drive? i'll tell you what -- when we stop to fill it up. ♪ ♪ [ son ] you realize, it's gotta run out sometime. [ male announcer ] jetta tdi clean diesel. the turbo that gets 42 miles per gallon. ♪

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earlier today. casey's parents remained silent while the verdict was handed down and abruptly walked out of the courtroom without speaking to their daughter. joining me with reaction former member of the defense team jennifer berringe and the one and only bo diedl. i did not like the open by jose baez. >> i know that. >> sean: i thought it was disjointed. he threw out this and that and this. during the case, he never went back to it, which i thought would confuse the jury. when he came out with his charts, he laid out and impeached every question he needed to impeach or contradicted and created reasonable doubt. >> i agree. >> sean: what happened in the interim? there was a major difference. this guy cheney mason is

unbelievable. >> he gave a great closing as well. he laid it out so the jurors went back in there. i have to say, when they called me and said there was a verdict, i got nervous. >> sean: too quick, i agree i thought it was going to be guilty. >> they applied the lauper effectly. all of the tough that we were -- we were all talking about the phone calls, duct tape, chloroform they have to talk about it. the question is, did they prove murder? not even did she do it? did they prove a murder occurred? >> sean: we still don't know how the girl died. >> exactly there is no cause of death. >> when they went bad showing the tape over the nose and mouth. right there they kind of blew it with the prosecution. my feelings, it was a very winnable case on a negligent homicide on the fact of her being negligent to prove that being a negligent homicide. with that said, all these

little bits, my belief is, the motive again, jeanine is right, motive, means and opportunity, that's what a homicide detective puts together for the d.a.. she wanted to go out and be with her friends. why not chloroform the kid put tape over her mouth, go dancing, when she went to the car i feel the child died of suffocation or heat exhaustion. >> you buy the chloroform? >> i buy the fact that no mother in their right mind would go thirty days without reporting their child gone. you believe something as far as with the father about her drowning in the pool. what father or grandfather would take a child and throw them into the woods? you would have a funeral for a little girl. kids die in the pool all the time. >> unless you were trying to save your child. >> why would you have to -- i'm a detective investigator, why would you have to save your child if it was an accidental drowning? >> you know you've seen them

charge -- >> no. >> sean: even though i don't think the evidence was there. she is still a top suspect. and i want questions of george anthony. am i wrong? >> no. one of the jurors, i guess an alternate -- >> sean: 14. >> he didn't believe george anthony. we all felt the same way. >> sean: why do you share my suspicion? >> i've all been suspicious of george. >> sean: you believe the abuse issues? >> personally? i don't know, maybe. i hate to say i don't believe -- [ talking over each other ] >> i think he's an ex-sheriff or something. i don't think he was a real cop. >> sean: real cop like you bo. >> serious. the mother tried to help her. no one realized the alibi when she was at work. this was an important fact to show the mother was trying to

steer the jury away from the daughter. >> sean: away from the death penalty. >> there should have never been a death penalty in this case. >> sean: i wonder if they are going to charge the mother now? >> no, they are running far away. >> they've been bitten. >> tragedy is that little girl with those big eyes are haunting. >> sean: what a cute kid. >> o my god. sean, real fast this is america man. i'm so proud to be here. where a jury weighed something. i respect that jury. i'm on jeanine's side all the time but i respect that jury. >> sean: i do too. they had me from the get-go because of her behavior. just give me something. >> bad prosecution. >> sean: are we doing a greta check? >> greta: yes. we have a guest tonight you may want to stick around and watch.

it is one of the alternate jurors who sat through the entire trial. >> sean: is this number 14? >> greta: number 14. >> sean: i heard him today on the fox news channel, it was great. >> greta: what people don't realize is the jury sees a different trial than the rest of us do watching on tv or the courtroom. they are the ones who are deciders. they see a very different trial than even the people sitting in the courtroom. i'm looking forward to interviewing him. >> sean: greta in 17 short minutes. more with our legal analysis. >> please, i ask this community, regardless of one's personal beliefs about the innocence or guilt of casey marie anthony, that you maintain your peaceful resolve.

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>> sean: welcome back to hannity. we are joined with our legal panel and their take on today's ver. peter johnson, jr.. and prosecutor anna sigga nick low is with us. thank you all. -- peter you and i spoke earlier in this. we looked at casey's conduct. we looked at her lies. i said this should be a slam-dunk. we both believed that. i watched this trial. and i watched these closing arguments. i was shocked myself that the defense attorneys did not -- the prosecution did not meet that high standard of reasonable doubt in my mind. >> and didn't in mine either. i pointed out, i think it is a great day for the american jury system. people saying how can you say that? i believe she is guilty. but a jury verdict is the last

word in our society. and if we don't do everything in our power to ensure that the jury verdict and not vigilante hosts, and vulture justice reigns in this country then we have a problem. if we are going to honor the constitution honor it in a courtroom in orlando, through due process so to the notion of reasonable doubt. whether we agree or disagree with this verdict, the jury of 12 decided that the prosecution failed in its burden. >> sean: this is what is so key. this is very important, i thought cheney mason laid out the case you are making, you are more articulate. >> he's a great lawyer. >> sean: i'm disgusted by her behavior. it was disgraceful how she acted. she didn't -- they didn't prove murder. that's what the charge was here. >> i disagree. i think justice in america

sometimes means killers walk because our standard of proof is so high. it is important to remember the jury today said -- >> sean: so the jurors are stupid. >> nope. that's not what i said. they said not guilty, they did not say she is innocent. not guilty means the prosecution didn't prove its case beyond a reasonable. it doesn't mean the absence of any and all doubt. what the jurors should have been asking not what is possible, but what is reasonable? is it reasonable for a mother to duct tape their child -- >> sean: could there be -- >> they did ask and answered that question. they answered it with a not guilty verdict. i think they answered it under circumstances in which no one, very few people could withstand the amount of pressure based on what was going on in the community in florida. now they have to go to pinellas county and say to neighbors who may have believed casey anthony was

guilty. listen, i heard the evidence. decided after six, seven weeks of trial, 12 hours of deliberation, i didn't believe they proved their case. >> her mom, her dad thinks she guilty. >> it is not about that. i was surprised at the verdict. i thought they proved their case. i spent my entire career -- i spent 16 years doing this. i believe our jury system works, i was disappointed here. i think the reason -- i think it is going to be a reasonable doubt question. >> sean: make the case for me. >> we are not going to start with the lies, you are right there that doesn't prove her guiltive murder. start with a baby phone duct taped in a swamp. -- baby found duct tape in a swamp. murder. you look at the mom. you go to her car in her car you have a hair they've proven is hers, based on dna that came back to the family.

it does back to everyone else. >> sean: it is a family car. >> it is postmortem, it was after death. you have every way to prove decomposition. cadaver dogs that said it smelled like death. >> sean: you had seven other people give you testimony -- >> you only had one person for 31 days knows that child gone and doesn't support it. >> junk science and incredible witness in terms of mr. anthony. incredible witness that the jury chose to disregard, based on this issue with regard to the mistress. and based on the statement about an accident that snowballed out of control. this jury had more than enough -- [ talking over each other ] >> sean: >> do i think there's involvement here -- for that

little girl's sake we have to get to the bottom of the it. it may be casey and george involvement. >> there has to be justice. but there can't be justice through vigilante television hosts. you've never engaged in that. but that can't be a substitute. >> sean: i was watching tv like super bowl sunday, who won today. sickening. we are going to come back. more with our legal panel after the break. yotake any surce, and place it between the earth's justice down upon it. oh. please sign that card for carl. ♪call 1-800-steemer.

>> sean: we continue with our legal panel. i'll give you a minute. it is a lot of time in tv not in reality. make your best case. peter will spoken. >> okay. in a minute, i start with the duct tape as i said.

you know there is murder whether you believe it was premeditated or she was trying to quiet the child that's murder. then who did it? the question is casey's car. she abandons that car. why? look what we find out. the most important strong piece of evidence about what was in the back of the car cindy calls the police and realizes her granddaughter has 8 30 -- 31 days. my baby is gone, the car smells like there's been a dead body in there. then you have the cadaver dog. then you have george. when pieces of what he says are corroborated, you take those pieces as truth when you cup the other things. you have the hair -- >> sean: one piece of hair. >> not just one piece of evidence, one piece of hair. then the chloroform. then the search for chloroform. >> sean: search for chloroform contradicted. not 84 times, apparently one.

>> all kinds of reasonable doubt. duct tape no dna. car irrelevant the child died we know that. chloroform, not proven through peer reviewed methods. hair, not proven through peer reviewed methods. shakey, incredible witnesses. poe ali lying about a mistress. potentially lying about chloroform searches. and a motive that somehow this woman was going to be freed because she was tethered to this beautiful child and she wanted to free herself. what day did the child die? where? how? how through junk science? we don't know the answers, reasonable doubt. >> sean: fantasy forensics they called it. >> the state was not able to answer how did caylee die? why? that's because casey is so smart her mind is so nimble like the prosecution told you,

she lied, misled -- >> sean: so smart? >> by the time the body was found all the forensics -- [ talking over each other ] >> they were not able to and the question how did caylee die? >> sean: why do i walk away from all that i watched and why am i looking at her father more seriously? >> you are looking at her father more seriously -- >> sean: i want him to answer questions. i think something happened. >> because there was no confidence in terms of believeability in terms of his testimony. we know in american law, in anglo-saxon law if they are lying about one thing maybe you are lying about some or all other things. >> sean: you an with my suspicion at all? >> i do. i think that was something a jury was looking at. i don't know what is in my heart on that.

but it is -- >> sean: running out of time. >> i don't agree with you. here's why -- >> sean: you are a great prosecutor. i respect your views. >> a respect yours in this. when you look at george, i understand the credibility issue. i think he's a credibility issue when it comes to that affair. i don't believe him. when you watch that guy on the stand fall apart as he's giving damaging testimony against his daughter, he does not want to be there.