report, fair, balanced and shu. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> bill: the o'reilly factor is on. tonight. >> she killed out. absolutely without a shadow of a doubt. >> i believe a killer has walked free. >> where is the justice for caylee? >> bill: with most of america appalled that casey anthony will be set free next week, the question remains why did the jury acquit her? we will have the inside story. and it may shock you. >> it she ever indicate that she was upset about anything? >> no. >> did she appear happy? >> yes, she was partying and having a good time. >> if u you think her behavior while her two-year-old daughter was missing was bad you don't know the half of it. tonight, how miss anthony partied while her little daughter might have been dead. >> the debt ceiling should not be something that is used to extract tax breaks for corporate jet owners.

>> bill: president obama once again attacking the wealthy in america, trying to rally working class folks to his side on the federal debt debate. we will have the latest. >> i think the american people are on my side on this. >> bill: caution, you are about to enspe enter the no spin zon. "the factor" begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. good news and bad news in the casey anthony trial today. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. first the good news and it is scant. judge belvin perry gave ms. anthony the maximum sentence for lying, four years but she will be released next week because of time served and good behavior in jail. so ms. anthony walks while her two-year-old daughter caylee's murder remains unsolved. in addition, florida representative bill hager

introduced legislation called caylee's law that would make it a felony for a parent or legal guardian to fail to report a missing child to authorities dislarks law should be passed immediately in every state. now, for the bad news. obviously casey anthony does not deserve to walk free, most americans understand that. if you don't think she is a killer just the fact she didn't report her two-year-old missing for 30 days means the woman should spend a long time in prison. her good fortune that she will soon be free is directly because of the jury's verdict. so far, just one juror has spoken out. >> a lot of people might say how are you going to keep at night. >> i'm going to sleep just fine because i had in this country that is our constitution. i applied the law. i did the best i could. i tried to make it work. i was reaching. i was trying to, you know, like i said, if they are all three there and no medical attention is given then that is cul culpe

negligence. failure to provide safety and medical care and things like that. >> what on earth is that woman jennifer ford talking about? failure to provide safety and medical care for what? are you kidding me jvment there is no evidence. none that caylee anthony died from an accident. it was a theory from the defense team. and when crunch time came, they couldn't present a shred of evidence to back it up. yet that juror jennifer ford and i believe other jurors apparently believe there's could have been an accident involved. based on what? maybe a martian came down and put duct tape over caylee's mouth. juries have to operate on facts, not irresponsible unproved theories. now, the fact that ms. ford would say that on national television that she believes an accident might have occurred is chilling. again, how the heck would she

know? no evidence establishes any accident. so here we have a jury member failing to convict casey anthony on murder charges pointing to a theory to justify the decision. that is insane! if alleged murderers can get theories thend o she rest cal the entire justice system has collapsed. reaction, with us one of the prosecutors in the casey anthony state, florida assistant state attorney jeff ashton. are you surprised that jennifer ford, you saw her in the courtroom, right? >> i did. >> bill: went on abc news, national television and said well maybe she didn't get medical care. are you surprised? >> a little surprised. i know that jurors when they get back in the jury room can do what they want. that is the system the way it is. i was a little surprised that she went into that depth and i

had not heard that quote about medical care and i'm not sure what she is trying to say. >> bill: were you and your prosecution team concerned at all this this bogus specter of an accident whether it be drowning or clo chloroforming e girl, which none was that was never established. >> absolutely right. >> bill: nothing. and the judge said that, right? the judge said directly these theories, there is nothing to back them up. >> he did allow them to argue the accident theory because of some very, very peripheral evidence about the pool and that kind of thing. the thing he wouldn't let them argue was the molestation. >> bill: but the accident theory, was there one shred of evidence to back it up? >> a shred, yes. a shred being that caylee could open the door and climb the pool lad ferraro it was up. that iladder if it was up. >> bill: that is not evidence. any human being over two can

open a door and climb a ladder. ha is not evidence that she fell into a pool. >> i did not find it compelling but the jurors may have seen it differently. >> bill: i don't understand it. when you guys were discussing the case amongst yourselves, the prosecution team, did you have any idea that the pool could play a role in the acquittal of casey anthony? >> we felt based upon the manner which caylee was found, the photographs of her remains and most people haven't seen that photograph, at least not in an unblurred way, we felt the way she was found with the duct tape over the skull was very compelling evidence. nand facand in fact our medical dpinner basically said there is no reason to put duct tape on a child, dead or alive. >> bill: describe the picture to the audience. >> a picture of caylee's skull buried in sort of leaf debree up to the area of the bottom of

the nose. there is duct tape sort of right near that area, you know, obviously the face is decomposed to the duct tape is not directly on the skull but basic ll aaround that portion of the face basically from here to the sides. >> bill: so she couldn't breathe. >> assuming it was on there when she was alive, yes, that was our theory. >> bill: jennifer ford, i have to get back to her because she is the only juror that we have heard from. jennifer ford is saying that she can sleep at night and has done her duty under the prosecution because that theory, there was an accident, it didn't have to be in the pool, bay the way. there was a theory that casey anthony wanted to party so used chloroform to put caylee to sleep. >> i heard that. >> bill: , again, no proof of any of that. because there is an unfounded theory with no evidence to back it up jennifer ford on the jury

says you know, that is reasonable doubt. is that reasonable doubt? >> it can be. i mean. >> bill: nothing to back it up? nothing? >> it can be depending on the evidence. it is the state's burden ton prove the murder. >> bill: did you not prove that there wasn't -- you can't prove a negative, it is impossible. >> right, right. >> bill: but you seem to be almost siding with jennifer ford and i'm appalled. >> i'm not necessarily siding with her interpretation of the evidence. what i'm saying is that it is the state's burden ton prove and if she felt that the state didn't prove it. >> bill: that is not what she said, though. all right. she said that her rationale quite clearly that was the little girl could have died another way than at the hand of her mother. >> right. >> bill: i'm going ask you again is, there any evidence that the little girl died another way? >> there isn't but it is important to understand. >> bill: there isn't. >> but it is important to

understand, the burden season on the state to prove it happened this way. and i thought we did. if she didn't see t that way, that was her right. it wouldn't be the burden on the defendant to prove it was an accident. it would be a burden on the state to prove it was not which i felt we did. >> bill: you see where i'm going with this? >> i do. >> bill: ms. ford with all due respect to her is using an unproved theory that was thrown out with no backup to justify her decision in part to acquit. does that the not distus distu? >> it does and jurors are told that a reasonable doubt cannot be a speculative or imaginary thing. >> bill: that is what this is, speculative. >> if that was the reason she did it, you may be right. a fine line between the state didn't prove it was murder and i think it was an accident. those are very fine lines. but, you know, ultimately you

give the jury all of these directions and then you just have to, you know, if you believe in the rule of law you have to just say they did this. >> bill: no job about that but my job is to cut through the bull and to get to really what happened here and there is not a shred of evidence that i have seen about an accident. >> i i agree with you about that. >> bill: thank you. we appreciate you coming in, counselor.or m >> my pleasure. >> bill: we will talk with a man who partied with casey anthony while caylee was missing.

>> bill: personal story segment tonight. during the casey anthony trial a man named clint house testified for the prosecution that he partied with casey anthony while her two-year-old daughter was missing.

>> the nights that you were at fusion with the defendant, what can you tell the jury about her overall demeanor? >> she was partying and having a good time. >> when you say partying, are you talking about drinking? >> drinking, yes, sir. >> dancing? >> yes, sir. >> did she ever display any emotions to you that would indicate that she was upset about anything. in. >> no. >> did she appear happy? >> yes. >> bill: joining us from jacksonville, florida, is clint house. the scenario you spoke about is hard to believe for many people, mr. house. a mother gala vaninvanting arod while korving up her daughter's disappearance. you knew casey anthony because your friend dated her. is that correct? >> that is, correct. onyou have spoken to her omaha many occasions, would that be accurate? >> in the last two months

before she was arrested, yes, i did, i spent a lot of time with her. >> bill: how many times would you say that you were in her presence before she was arrested? >> don't know, you know, right off the top of my head. tony was my best friend and casey was his girlfriend so any time we would hang out she would be there. >> bill: she there was a lot because you guys were roommates and she came over to your house. i understand that you actually babysat caylee while they went off and socialized, is that, correct? >> yes, i got to spend some time with caylee. >> now, you obviously and i'm assuming the boyfriend had no idea that caylee was missing because i would assume you would ask about her. when you did ask about caylee in the period of time where she went missing, what did casey anthony tell you? >> casey would tell us that she was either with a nanny or that

she was with cindy and george and we had no reason to not believe here. >> bill: why would you not believe her, that makes sense. although she did not have a nanny, you were not in a position to know that. as far as the night life was concerned, casey anthony went out and carrie cavorted arounde 0 day period in a fairly flamboyant way, describe some of that. >> she would come with us for the fuse and she was there as support. it wasn't like she was there getting shoppy drunk and us having to carry her out of the club. more just socially drinking and having a good time like any other 22-year-old would. >> bill: but she did that on a consistent basis, correct? >> yes, she did. the last time i saw casey before she was arrested was actually at a club in downtown orlando. >> bill: where she was having a good time?

>> yes. >> bill: now, in hindsight, you are human being, two-year-old missing 30 days, you know what casey anthony was doing in those 30 days, what do you think? >> i think any self-respecting parent or guardian would absolutely freak out right at ten minutes after their child is missing. so i mean it just goes to show you that -- that justice really wasn't served in the courtroom because she didn't tell anybody that caylee was missing the time, that is pretty and something to be said in

itself. >> bill: we appreciate you coming on the program this evening. we would like you to vote in the bill o'reilly .com poll. do you believe casey anthony is guilty or not guilty of murdering her two-year-old daughter. do you believe she is guilty or not guilty. we will give you the results of that poll and it is a big one, fom on "the factor". president obama says he is confident a debt ceiling deal is close but continues to attack wealthy americans. later, die an diane sawyern another child abuse situation. a young girl kidnapped and kept for 18 years in depraiive deprd

impact segment tonight. president obama told the nation he is confident a deal will get done about raidersin racing thl debt ceiling. america owes more than $14 trillion and the feds want p to borrow more. the president wants to raise taxes. >> the debt ceiling should not be something that is used as a gun against the heads of the american people to extract tax breaks for corporate jet owners

or oil and gas companies that are making billions of dollars because the price of gasoline has gone up so high. >> bill: joining us from washington, republican senator jim demint. the author of the the brand new book "the great american awakening, two years to change america, washington and me". the president obviously believes the american people are angry that many c.e.o.s are getting record pay increases while the country is suffering dmikally. what say you about that? >> i talked to a lot of people. they are mad about not having jobs. they are mad about the spending and debt at the federal level. they are mad about gas prices. i haven't talked to any one who is mad because c.e.o.s are making money or corporate jets are flying around. >> bill: i have. i know people who are very, very angry when they see c.e.o.s making enormous amounts of profits while laying off workers, which some of them are doing. and so, you haven't heard 2 but

i have. and i think it is a point that resonates. you don't think that resonates? >> well, it is part of a class war fai fare politics here. the president actually put these credit for corporate jets in the stimulus plan and now bringing it back saying that somehow it as republican idea. all republicans are for a flatter corporate tax rate, lower rate that eliminates all of the loopholes and credit. the president never supported that when was 23 was in the sed i actually introduced it. what he is trying to do, bill -- >> bill: explain that because that is fascinating to me. you introduced what? that he he opposed? exactly what? >> didn't support. republicans myself included when i was in the house and since i have been in the senate a tax reform proposal that creates a low flat corporate rate as well as a low flat rate for personal income. we have never been able to get democrats to suspects the port

this. >> you wanted to close corporate loopholes like ge not paying any tax because they have their money parked overseas in return for a lower tax rate but a flat rate, a flat tax. >> right. >> that would put revenue into the federal system. so that is what you introduced and you were behind and you say that then senator obama didn't support that, is that, correct? >> no. and as far as i know, he never supported any tax reform proposal that would have done what he is saying to do now and i don't think you going to find a democrat who has done that. i may be wrong on that but i have been working on tax reform since i came to congress. and i have yet to get a democrat who will work with us on a flat simple tax code. i have supported -- >> bill: when you were working on this did your research show that that kind of a flat tax which i support, by the way, i want the audience to know that, raises more revenue, that means more money coming in to washington from the so-called wealthy and the business community? does your research show that?

>> exactly. and you know it does. it increases revenue the more you simplify code and keep it at a low flat rate. dmik activity increases and historically that is the only way we are going to increase revenue. thpresident -- >> bill: so then why does president obama or senator obama on other liberal democrats oppose that in your opinion if it does increase revenue without raising the marginal tax rate that might restrict the economy which is the republican argument, if more revenue does come in from a simple fieified tax code? >> takes away the political power to pick winners and losers. when you can give a credit here and a loophole there. despite the complaints, dep crates have been a big part of that in the past. it takes away the political power. the tax code should collect revenue. it should not try to run the economy with all the per verse

incentives. i have been in business for years, bill, before i came to congress and many things are done in business that are not good business decisions but good tax decisions and the simpler we make our code the better our economy is. >> bill: okay, now, is there an element in your opinion of income rebeuk redistribution h? i believe that the president sees american society in a way that the wealthy have an obligation to help those who don't have a lot. and therefore if we raise the tax rates on the wealthy that income redistribution and that is what obama care is all about, kicks in. whereas if you have your plan, the flat tax, simplify the code, there is no direct income redistribution. the wealthy will pay more because, of course, you know, they generate more and a flat tax would take more of their money but it isn't a scaled thing. how much do you think the income redistribution is a part

of the democratic and president obama's p.o.v., point of view sthvment. >> it is a huge part of their platform because it keeps emphasizing class war fare and workers against businesses and rich against the poor. that is how they work in politics. bill, we 23450ed to remin needd yourselves the people paying taxes in america at the upper income are paying a larger percentage of total taxes in our country than any other industrialized nation. it is not like they are not paying their fair share. if you leave money in the hands of wealth producing people in our country it is going to create more jobs and wealth for middle income americans than if we give it to the government. >> bill: the democrats don't believe that. they believe the central government in the income redistribution will create the jobs, not the wealthy. you know that is a philosophical divide. >> we have been practicing their economic policy for a few years now and that is we we have got over 9% unemployment

right now. >> real quick, is the debt ceiling thing going to happen? think there is going to be a deal? >> i think the president being overly alarmist. i have done a lot of research on this, bill. there is enough money in the social security trust fund to pay that. medicare trust fund to pay that as far as the bonds that are there and that can be sold and tax revenue can pay for the rest. we need to raise the debt limit but we need to do it with permanent structural reform and that is what you will find the republicans are coming out for. >> bill: they want the cuts engined in that. thank you very much. the book again the great american aswaikenning. coming up, the great american news quiz. the murder case edition. obviously off the casey anthony acquittal we have interesting questions for you. also ahead, laura ingram and diane sawyer on the state of the union. we hope you stay tuned for those reports.

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ms. laura in washington this evening for her thoughts on the casey anthony acquittal and president obama continuing his quest for higher taxes on wealthy americans. do casey anthony first, laura, go. >> i'm one of the people who didn't see dee vow devour everf the case. i did dip in at the closing arguments. if you were a defense attorney like i was and you watched the closing arguments and that is all you pretty much sunk your teeth into i think you had to go away thinking that the jury was not going convict her. i know that -- the burden of proof is not on defense to prove how the victim was killed. the burden of proof is on the prosecution and with a jury of your peers they have to unanimously agree that beyond a reasonable doubt you committed this crime and it was not done. i mean it just from what i saw, bill, i thought there was enough wiggle room there that,

you know, regardless of how terrible a mother she was and what an awful person she was they didn't meet that standard. that standard that exists in our law. >> bill: let's get specific about the closing arguments because i also paid attention. i'm not as smart as you and could never go to law school. >> right, you have your masters. >> bill: i just eeked it out. what i heard was the prosecution saying listen, we don't know how the baby was killed because the body was too decomposed we couldn't find out the the exact method of her death, we don't know. that was established. but you don't find a baby in a swamp covered with duct tape as the prosecutor told us earlier in the program and not know there was foul play. there was. >> well, but -- >> bill: this is what i'm hearing. >> all right. >> bill: so this foul play, something happened here that was out of -- it wasn't an act

of god. and it wasn't an accident. any put duct tape over her and dumped her in a swamp. now, we have one primary suspect because she is the mother of the baby. she is the mother of the baby. and she is in charge of the baby. and she lies and lies and lies and lies and behaves totally inaprep patriotly. >> you can talk this to death but you and i weren't in the jury room, okay. the jury heard the evidence day in and day out and they were in the courtroom day in and day out. they heard everything and i imagine they read everything. look, i'm a mother of three children. i can't -- i have a hard time hearing this case it upsets me so much. i don't think from what i heard that the causation was cut and dried. and i think causation came into it. >> bill: i disagree. >> i think motive might have been. motive was proven. >> bill: did you hear jennifer ford at the top of the program? >> yes, i did.

>> bill: explaining her acquittal by saying well, it could have been an accident. okay. find. an a asteroid could have hit. >> bill: it is absolutely in context. >> bill, you are guaranteed a jury of your peers. not guaranteed a jury of the smartest people would you would like to sit on the jury. >> bill: but you are really smart and you are agreeing with them. >> bill, i think she probably killed her tauter. daughter. unfortunately for all of us who want the justice done that is not the standard that we have in the criminal justice system and it enrages people. it enrages me but that is the system of laws and that is the tradition of laws that we have had in our country and throughout much of. >> bill: here is the difference between you and me. you think that she probably killed her. i'm con vine vined convinced sy did. and that is just a deficits of opinion.ence

>> there are these stories sadly happen every day. >> caylee anthony deserves justice and fair play from the media and i'm trying to give fair play to that dead two-year-old. real quick, do you think that they are going to get the debt ceiling lifted because the country if it doesn't goes into really a shock mode even though the senator demint kind of diminished that. the worldwide markets would go wild and everybody would be -- do you think they are going to get a deal? >> probably, bill. i mean i think that both sides are petrified of both the political and substantive fallout if it doesn't happen. i got to tell you i think when people have watched this and they are watching it along the prifry, they don't think that is a lot of these pol politicis take this seriously. they see people in campaign mode and hear talking points. on my radio show today i had three hours of regular people calling in telling us what was happening to their companies, their businesses, their nursing

homes, their daycare centers in this economy. they are crumbling under the weight of a bad economy. families, communities, neighborhoods. that is what they are feeling. they want people in washington to understand their concerns, lose the talking points, lose the bumper sticker slogans, lose the demonization and do what they do at home. cut the spending, get the spending under control and free up business to do what business does best. that is what we need to do. all this other stuff, debt ceiling vote. an interesting conversation but i really think most people watching the show, we just got to -- >> bill: i agree with the point that you made that i think is very astute is that both parties are petrid and they have to get it done and i think they will. thank you. when we come right back, abc news anchor diane sawyer on arhorry fyingre fyinwho

>> bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly. if the personal story segment, in addition to the casey anthony story which captivated the nation, another high profile child abuse situation in play. jaycee was held captive for 18 years by a married couple. the man season tensed to life and the woman at least 36 years in prison. during the time that she was heltd

engaged. >> i make a distinction between myself. in the case of jaycee dugard. did you know that parole officers went to the house where she was being held 60 times and did not look in the backyard or look enough even to find her? and they sent him a letter of commendation about his good behavior when was holding her in the backyard. so many levels outrage and also learning about ourselves and what we might do through her. >> bill: but you can't deny and you have been on both sides of the equation. new in the hard news business but you did good morning america for a number of years which doesn't tainmen entertaid social sorries this of ilk. i assume you will get good

ratings on sunday night with this story. what draws people to these tragedies. a two-year-old dead in the swamp. an 1-year-old wh 11-year-old w8 years of her life. what draws people in? >> it again, i'm going to draw the line on the two because i really do think they are different store. first of all, this is a tragedy only in one sense, she lost 18 years of her life. but she proved something. she proved that she at 4'6" tall was the match for this man who was 6'4" and a convicted predator who was released from jail sentenced to 50 years released after 11 years. so, i think she comes back with something victorious about what it is to survive and also reminding everybody out there simply what it is to love your life every day. >> bill: here is a clip from the interview. go.

>> how did you survive? >> there is a switch that i had to shut off. >> i'm trying to imagine how you are coping? i'm trying to imagine -- >> i don't know. i can't imagine being beaten to death, you know. but when you can't imagine being kidnapped and raped, you know. it is just you just do what you have to do it to survive. >> let me ask you a personal question, ms. sawyer. you have been doing this for awhile as have i. do you ever think about evil? because a person -- the people who did this to jaycee dugard and the person who did that to caylee anthony, they are evil people. do you think about that? >> of course, i do and we all do. and she says evil twist the minds and also says the reason that she writes about it in

some what startling detail what happened to her is she wants to stare us down and says sometimes you have to take that and say it is not about my experience, my shame, it is their shame, i'm going to stare it down and get the fear out of it. as you know, this is a young woman who had two babies in a backyard in a backyard, because of these two people. >> bill: where are the children now? >> the children are thriving. i'm not going say anything more about them. because the one thing i said to her. >> bill: they are all right? >> they are all right. >> bill: and is she, the mother, are they with her? >> they are with her. absolutely with her. >> bill: all right. do we as broadcasters and interviewers have a responsibility to educate americans about evil, to emphasize that side of these awful stories? do we have a responsibility in your opinion? >> i think we have a responsibility to tell the stories of real lives and to

the extent they bring us lessons about who we are and what we might do and also about who we want to be and what we want our justice officials to do and how we want to react, absolutely. correct. nowky ask you a personal question? >> bill: sure, go ahead. >> why are you calling me ms. sawyer, bill? >> bill: because it is a formal interview. >> all right. >> bill: i had the late peter jenings on a pregram and i said to him i get really angry at these story is. as you know, i'm furious about the casey anthony verdict. furious. >> i know. >> and i show i it which is why i'm doing commentary now and not ampgerring some place. do you get angry about it? >> i get purposeful. i think my job is to marshal facts and bring the facts out and let the facts deliver

whatever information there is to deliver and at the end of the day people will know what the truth is and that has got to be my job. i think that there are different functions and i love the dialogue between the two but i really do think they are different. >> bill: you feel that it is your responsibility to step presentm the anger and frent the fablghts whereas i feel it is my responsibility as a commentator to show the anger and say why. and i think both are necessary in this country. >> and our job is to watch you and i hope watch me. >> bill: all right, diane. is that good? >> that's right. >> 9:00, prime time. abc. and then, is the judge in the casey anthony case a pinhead or a patriot? i'm have the verdict upcoming.

>> bill: back of the book segment. the great american new is quiz, the murder case edition. here in person, fox news anchor martha mccallum looking tan. and fox and friends guys steve doocy representing bec.

>> looking great. >> you should get out once in awhile. >> i really should. i'm working awlg the time. >> in the dark room typing on the old i ibm. >> if you get any tanner you will be doing a remake of beach blanket bingo. question no. one on the news quiz murder trial edition. during the o.j. simpson trial, the late night comedians had a field day. jay leno created a dance troupe made up of actors dressed up as what figures from the case? dannielynn troupe on whom. cards up please. and the answer is roll the tape. >> direct from the o.j. trial the dancing itos with special guest marcia clark, ladies and gentlemen.

>> bill: those were the days. both got them right. here is the easiest question of the five. we throw this in braw because e want everybody to feel good. if you don't get this correct, not good. o.j. simpson captivated the nation with the low speed chase in a white board bronco. >> just throw it out the window. we will let you go out there. just throw it out the window, please, you are scaring everybody. think of your kids. >> i'm not going to hurt anybody. >> i know you're not going to hurt anybody. >> tell them i'm all sorry. >> who was driving that bronco? a, kato kay lin. >> who was driving the vehicle? >> cards up, please. and that is correct, al cowlings. >> yog the memory a bit. >> tied at two. before he ordered his followers to dmit murder, charles manson

was a wannabe song writer and member of the california music scene. for a period in 968 he lived in the house with the drummer from what band. >> what band that was? roll the tape. ♪ good, good, good, good vibration ♪ >> bill: you both were right, dennis wilson of the beach boys. very, very good. >> the cutest one. >> the cutest one? >> bill: and how did he drown? >> i think i just blue that. how did he brown. >> he was in the ocean. >> he was in the ocean. >> he drown in the ocean. >> how. what happened? >> he was drunk i think. >> a little bombed and fell off a boat in marina del ray,

california. >> bombed on some drug of choice, alcohol or something. >> bill: two to go. serial killer and rapist ted bundy was known for being frightenly charismatic in person. >> read it. >> mr. bundy. >> you told me that you were going to get me. he said he was going to get me. you got the indictment. that is all you are going to get. let's read it. let's go. >> i chased that guy all over the country. i claised him all over the country. he was clever and resourceful. how many times was he able to escape from police custody? cards up, please. the answer is b, twice. he escaped from. >> jail. >> pitken county in aspen, colorado, and in washington state. he was ferocious. he was tough.

i was there in lake city, florida, on the night they got him. >> is that right? >> i was chasing him from tallahassee to lake city? >> trying to catch him. >> trying to catch him because we knew that he was in the area, i was working for a station in denver. still tied, last question. son of sam struck terror into young new york city women in the late '70s. >> from 1976 to 1977 serial killer david berk witnesses shooting victims in cars and then resurfacing months later to kill again. >> bill: women scrambled to die their hair in new york city different shades of what color after it was revealed that the son of sam preferred to kill women with a certain color of hair? cards up please. get that card up. and the answer is brunette. okay. so son of sam was after brunettes. we have a tie. is that right.

>> tiebreaker who directed the son of sam movie which bombed. >> coppola. >> bill: wrong. he wowd p wouldn't come close t material. >> johnny depp. >> ridiculous. here is a hint. spike lee. both of you win. >> what? i was going to say spic spike . >> bill: pin heads and patriots on deck. is the judge in the casey anthony trial a patriot or a pinhead? i will render the verdict in just a few moments.

>> bill: pinheads and patriots in a moment. tonight starring the casey anthony judge. is he a pinhead? but first, we will have round two of my shootout with geraldo over casey anthony. the complaint department. what tees you off? we want to know. >> now the mail:

>> bill: i made it clear that i thought ms. anthony was culpable in the death of her daughter. so that gesture could have been directed to me and others.

>> bill: i've kept my criticisms very specific. they are rightfully held responsible for their decision. >> bill: that might not cut it there kelly, although i think we could rally a few more folks out there. the show in august nearly sold out. only 17 premium tickets are left that's where you get to meet me and miller. my question, why would anyone want to do that? especially miller. >> bill: he is now paula.

there you go! if he signed you get the navy seals shirt free of charge. >> bill: lots of love going on not a lot of book sales but lots of . >> as you may know judge perry sentenced casey anthony to four years in prison for lying to investigators, she was convicted. because of time served she will be released next week. judge perry gave her the maximum because i believe he believes she is guilty as hell. i also think the judge did an excellent job in the case. no proceeding is perfect. the judge made some mistakes. overall, judge belvin perry is a patriot. that is it for us tonight. check out the fox news exact

for website. you got the talking points memo. a good one tonight. talking points for the 7th of july, i think you will enjoy. spout off from anywhere in the world. we are enjoying the overseas mail, oreilly@foxnews.com. name and town if you wish to opine. wore of the day, do not be maudlin when writing to the factor. >> tomorrow, the complaint department, -- anything about the factor, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, anybody tees you off, you are annoyed whatever. we want to hear your complaints. the complaint department open friday. also the results of our poll on casey anthony. thanks for watching, i'm bill o'reilly remember the spin stops here because

>> good morning, it's friday, july 8th. i'm molly line in for gretchen. we begin with a fox news alert. a massacre in the midwest. seven people dead. several of them children shot by a man some knew as dad. >> wow. meanwhile, casey anthony, take a look at her, she may be dolled up and ready to walk out but not so fast. there's been a slight change in her sentence. they've recalculated and those jurors, now they're really feeling the heat. some no longer welcome in their own hometowns. >> also, what's the unemployment rate again, steve? 9.1%? that's right, who cares? not a big deal, right? the guy running president obama's re-election campaign doesn't think so. does that sound like a good strategy to you? not . "fox & friends" starts right now.