thanks for sharing. in terms of who is supporting which candidates. that's going to do it for me. kelly wright and jamie colby standing by with much more news. make it a great day everybody, stay with us! >> >> fox news alert. new details in the penn state investigation. and the team is taking to the field the first time since the scandal broke, i'm jamie colby. >> kelly: it's good to have you with us, welcome to america's news headquarters. security stepped up at the beaver stadium after students erupted in a protest after firing of legendary coach joe paterno. now the team is using their last game in front of the home crowd this season to not only pay tribute to their former leader, but to the alleged victims as well. our david lee miller has been

following the story, live at beaver stadium right now in university park pennsylvania and david, what's happening inside the game? >> well, right now, the the game continues in the second quarter and we understand for those keeping track of such things that nebraska has a three-point lead and many people here still focusing on events off the playing field. and causing a great deal of bitterness, anger and frustration. the crowds began to arrive, kelly, hour before today's game and we talked with some of the fans and there is mixed emotion. and many people say they're here to show support for the team, but others wanted to make it clear they're here because they feel strong had i for joe paterno. and they witnessed joe paterno, and wished joe pa was still on the sidelines and take a listen to mixed reactions we've received. >> the important thing we're still here to show our penn state pride regardless of everything going on and we

want to be here to show support for the players and rest of penn state. >> are you a joe pa fan or not? >> are you or aren't you, my question for you, buddy. >> i don't answer the questions, get out of this area! >> (bleep). >> jamie: as you can see from the last person, a lot of anger directed at the media. many students ar others are angry what happened here is being widely reported and lashing out at reporters, and one reason we saw a few days ago, a news van was overturned during the rioting. but, i have to say, the majority of the people here want to move ahead, they want to improve the image of penn state. and today, we witnessed something incredible, kelly. before the game got underway a moment of silence for the victims of child abuse and in the two teams, nebraska and penn state together, at the center of the stadium, got together and they prayed. and they hoped to move forward as soon as possible and put the scandal behind, kelly. >> kelly: david, that's a

stunning development. the fact that the two team went to the center of the team to pray not only for the victims, but all involved and penn state has a lot to do to get back together what. about joe pa, joe paterno, how is he doing and what's going on with that? >> we've not seen or heard from joe paterno. and presumably he's now at his home and not attending the game as best we know. he's hired a lawyer and his son issued a statement and we can bring is up on the screen. he's absolutely distraught over what happened to the children and their families and he also wants to speak publicly and answer some questions, but you know, kelly, there's no date set for any type of public appearance for joe paterno, and many believe the first time we hear from joe paterno, at length, about what happened, might very well be in a courtroom when he appears as a possible witness at some time in the future. kelly. >> kelly: all right. david lee miller reporting to us today. thank you so much for that report. a lot of legal questions in this, the wake of this scandal. could paterno or mcqueary face

charges? and how much responsibility should the school actually take? we will have much more on that, a little later in our show. jamie. >> and that's a story, kelly we're following at fox video and coming into the news room, a major league baseball player, wilson ramos after he was saved from kidnappers and the 24-year-old washington nationals catcher was taken from his home at gun point on wednesday and after a daring raid by venezuelan security forces reunited from tearful relatives and thanking the men who saved him. while he says he's physically okay, he says he's suffering psychologically and several alleged kidnappers have been arrested. >> kelly: tense moments at the white house with reports of shots fired nearby. police were scrambling to check out the situation last night. and witnesses apparently hearing gunfire and seeing two vooks racing down the street. and one of those cars later found abandoned at had an

ak-47 also recovered and the president and mrs. obama were not at the white house at the time. no one is in custody. >> jamie: meanwhile, president obama begins his nine-day asia pacific trip starting in native hawaii for a weekend economic conference and the president is pressing for specifics on a free trade agreement. to boost u.s. trade and create more jobs right here at home. however, no final decisions are expected on the agreement this weekend and the president leaves tuesday for australia, bali and indonesia. and there's also new insight in the solyndra scam. the white house releasing dozens of documents connected to its energy policy, and the failed solar panel maker. in one specific e-mail, a former obama campaign operative pushes for energy secretary, steven chu, to be demoted. peter doocy live in washington with more on that. tell us about the e-mails, peter. >> reporter: yeah, you mentioned the one that said

that he would be demoted and it wouldn't be a complete dismissal, but back on march 14th of this year, then chief of staff pete rousch shared an e-mail with white house colleagues from a former campaign manager and current clean energy activist named dan carol and included ideas about restructuring the energy without secretary chu at the top and should be working research and development somewhere and quote, secretary chu is a wonderful and brilliant man, but he is not perfect. for the deploying existing technology for scale and creating jobs, and someone else should do that and lead the a new team. he wasn't interested in critique of chu, but other policies. and white house said in a conference call, this is not an internal white house e-mail and with respect to solyndra loan guarantees, prediction of

attacks about the loan guarantee program turned out to be right. it didn't just mention solyndra, thought in the e-mail there would be a wave of g.o.p. attacks about solyndra and other deals that have gone to obama donors and since underperformed. >> jamie: well, there's definitely concern on the republican side of the aisle, but those in congress, peter, have they responded to the latest documents released? >> yeah, jamie and basically saying now they still want to see everything, everything solyndra related, they want to see the documents and here is the statement they put out yesterday, saying, quote, the white house's production includes a limited number of self-selected documents along with their own interpretation of what those documents show. we are hoping this is the beginning of an effort to finally make public these missing pieces of a process that left us all holding the bag for over 500 million dollars and energy secretary steven chu, jame ji is going to testify on the committee of oversight and investigation this thursday and we should stay tuned for that.

>> jamie: we will, peter doocy live in d.c., thanks. >> thanks. >> kelly: this is a fox news alert. we're awaiting a historic announcement from italy prime minister. anytime now silvio berlusconi is expected to resign from power after italy's parliament approved reforms designed to save the country from an economic meltdown. greg burke streaming live with details from rome. bring us up-to-date, please? >> well, kelly, that's right. probably just about an hour from now, or a little more, silvio berlusconi will be resigning and this is the end of an era, no doubt about it, for nearly 20 years berlusconi has been on the stage in italian politics and he has been a protagonist the whole time and berlusconi is handing a last cabinet meeting right now and then he'll be going up to handing his resignation as promised to the president and it has to be a bit of a humiliation, berlusconi is a billionaire business man and saw it as his mission to save

italy, in his word to save italy from the communists. in all probability, the new prime minister will be mario monty, a technical government, an economics professor. it's not smooth sailing for monty, there's a fair amount to opposition to this technical or unity government. they're trying to make it a nonpolitical thing, but in italy that's a very, very difficult thing to do. now, italy is also in a very delicate situation right now and saw their borrowing rates shoot up dangerously high last week and there was question whether or not they would be able to stay in the euro zone. whether or not they might need a bailout. they're the third largest economy in the euro zone, so a bailout would basically mean the end of europe or at least the monetary program, in any case. finally, kelly, it's interesting you're seeing crowds gather outside the prime minister's office, also outside where the president lives, actually, the president's palace where berlusconi will have to go. and most of them happy to see

berlusconi go, although you have to admit he's divided people in italy and one prime minister that won't serve the entire term, five years and this term has been three and a half years, the average in post war italy was a little more than 11 months so berlusconi certainly has done a pretty good job in that case and whoever follows him is going to have a hard time matching that. kelly. >> kelly: all right, thank you, greg. >> jamie: well, dozens reported dead in iran. an explosion tearing through a revolutionary guard ammunition depot west of tehran. state tv says it happened as they were transporting weapon. the guard is iran's most powerful military force and iran ruling ott sabotage saying this was an accident. it's veterans day weekend and we can never forget the contribution and sacrifice, but comes amid new warnings at the impact that massive military cuts would have on our nation. defense secretary leon panetta saying that would invite

aggression from abroad. the cuts would take place if the super committee fails to reach a deal to reduce the deficit. and four star general, whoever didn't know that general, i give up. and chief of staff to the army is our guest and what a privilege it is to have you here, sir. you have taken over the post as chief of staff and you have led operations in iraq and spend so much time in afghanistan. and i'm so interested in your perspective on these defense cuts and they will happen automatically if the super committee doesn't do its job. how devastating could that be? >> well, first off, we've already-- the department of defense is already going to take a 450 plus billion dollar reduction and we've already agreed to that, it's already in the budget, but if they don't reach an agreement that would be an automatic 600 additional cuts which will be devastating and you talked about, it's about credibility and credibility in my mind is defined by capacity, readiness, modernization and

others calculate and could do more harm. if they don't think the nights can respond responsibly. it's important for us to look at this carefully that we maintain our ability to deter conflict and i think part of that is the capability we have in the armed forces. >> the way you describe that, general, it sounds like it's foreign for you to see us as the fighting force we are. but if we make these cuts after spending 10 years in afghanistan as just as one example and being ready to withdraw for the most part from iraq, have we not built up the credibility we need? do we really sacrifice losing that? >> well, again, i think that people realize that we have the best army, the best navy, best air force in the world and because of that, that deters, a lot of activity around the world. if the cuts come too deep we're concerned it will exactly the credibility. it's something we have to be

very, very careful about. we realize in the department of defense we have to contribute, the fact we have some issues in our country and resolve the economic issues, it's not like we shouldn't have some cuts, but we have to be careful how keep they go and the sequestration is deep if we need to go there. >> kelly: are you limited in your ability to speak about the matter. >> no, i've limited in congress, and open discussions, we have weekly discussions with the secretary of defense on it and the president is also, with our opinions, a chance to talk about it as well. >> jamie: when we talk about the withdrawal from iraq, this is a monumental and a historic time. as we leave, what will be our capability in terms of collecting intelligence? because it zooms pretty clear at that iran is beginning to have more and more presence in iraq, more and more influence and interest in having iraq go their way. what do we do about it? >> well, the important thing,

obviously, we have a strategy for the entire middle east. we have capabilities to collect intelligence and we'll continue to do that. you know, as we, you know, we signed an agreement three years ago we would leave iraq the end of december and now move on to the next step, the next step is to build a relationship with the iraqi government that's different than what we've had. one that doesn't require our forces being in the country and build relationships with them that help us to help them to maintain their security and stability. i'm absolutely confidence that urichies do not want the iranians running their country, that they want to be an independent country and they want to, they want-- they believe in their own sovereignty and so, they will work with us and work with anybody in order to protect their own security. >> with all of that said, generally, money is funneling in. >> there's money, they're our neighbors so there is he' money coming from iran and economic and through a lot of the religious activity that

goes on on the shia side, because of najaf and other places and that will continue to happen. again, we will continue to support iraq, we're still selling many weapons systems and m-16's and tanks and other thanks and that's going to keep us to have a strong relationship within the government and they realize we want to be partners in the long run and what we have to focus on now. >> and i understand with camp victory, no date will be disclosed for obvious reasons, we're leaving a lot of stuff behind. what we're leaving behind is stuff obsolete he we no longer need within our military and some things that we used for our soldiers to live and be able to continue to move forward and that stuff just wouldn't be worthwhile to bring back so we're leaving that for the iraqi army. in addition to that, they are buying equipment from us and we're helping them to train on it and we will continue to do that post 31 december. >> jamie: let me ask you, general, about afghanistan and hamid karzai, how in charge is

he really at the moment? because he continues to profess his support of pakistan and we know that pakistan really has become the safe haven for terrorists. they seem to play it both ways, but mostly not so much for us? >> well, i think whenever you get involved with these situations, you've got to realize that they-- pakistan is it on their border and they'll be on the border forever and they want to develop a relationship that's acceptable to them and i think that president karzai continues to work through that relationship, realizing that the united states will not be there forever, and that he has to begin to develop a relationship with pakistan. we encourage that as long as it's the right relationship. >> jamie: can you get them in the same room again and participate? >> we'll see. >> the leaders of pakistan and afghanistan? >> we'll he see, i hope so. >> my sources tell me they have that-- >> we hope so, that that will become a more regular person, we'll begin to work together. we certainly would like to see that more in the future.

>> jamie: all right, general, thank you so much and we honor your service. >> thank you. >> jamie: and your family, i know your son tony well and all of our troops on this veterans day weekend. >> thank you. >> jamie: kelly and i appreciate it. >> kelly: we do indeed, general. great interview with our beloved general and someone who served this country so well, thank you so much. sir. a major white house announcement on the controversial keystone oil pipeline. could the decision to delay the massive project for equity, further review? could it end up back firing, while the president reelection plans and our political panel debates coming up. >> jamie: fair and balanced of course and police searching a washington state park today for a missing toddler and refusing to say what led them there. more on the search for little sky and we also hear from his father. >> my son-- coming from my son who is missing, but he will be-- found. and i served a tour in iraq.

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>> welcome back. the white house putting plans for a controversial cross country oil pipeline on hold and the keystone pipeline designed to bring millions of barrels of oil from canada to the gulf of mexico and it could create thousands of construction jobs and provide a critical source of energy

from a friendly ally. but there are also environmental concerns out there, still, some wonder if the delay is really all about politics. election politics. >> here now, democrat sick strategist and former aid to senator chuck schumer, chris hahn, good to see you and daily news columnist and co-host of "the five" here, andrea tantaros, let's listen to what or talk about what john boehner said. i'm quoting him here. more than 20,000 new american jobs have just been sacrificed in the name of political expediency by punting on this project, the president has made clear that campaign politics are driving u.s. policy decisions at the expense of american jobs. andrea, i know you want to weigh in on that. >> look, rather than create these jobs he's only concerned with keeping his own. it's a dereliction of duty. he should have made a decision

either way and punted it until after the election. and thousands of jobs, we have oil from a friendly ally instead of relying on our enemies in the middle east. it doesn't make a lot of sense, but i believe he's so afraid of the environmental movement and doesn't want it stick it to them. you know, i'll stick it to the unions, even who are in his corner because he knows they have he nowhere else to go. so he wanted the environmental i-s and the hollywood crew with him until election day. >> i hear you there. let me jump in quick, andrea, because, chris to your president's defense, to our president's defense, here is what is being said by david axlerod, i would suggest that the speaker call his republican colleagues in nebraska, because they, too, have basically protested against this being built. so, what say you? >> well, you know, listen, there are major concerns about the environmental impact of this pipeline through one of

the most used aquifers in the u.s. there's been a water crisis in the center of this country for many years and to risk that is why it's being delayed. andrea makes some good points, it's a face-off between two of the president's most trusted constituencies, environmentalists and labor and the environmentalists have been more united in this and made their point about the aquifer and the union movement is not out there fighting for those jobs. with that said, this pipeline will be built. the president wants to see this pipeline built and eventually, it will be completed. >> kelly: if that's the case, and i'm sure andrea is going to get to the point, why delay it now? is it political brinkmanship for the president because he wants to do this and can it back fire? >> it can back fire and should ba backfire, people want jobs now. it reminds me of new york state, when the democrats were

pushing andrew cuomo, and fracking, and would he punt this. he did not. and he's won a lot of support and good for the state of new york, what cuomo is doing, but president obama is so scared of his base that he would rather just push off this decision, knowing, as chris said, it's going to get built and he has to make sure that he wins first, which i think is so selfish. >> kelly: af got to jump in, guys, it's clear that the president has a tough political decision and made that decision already and people have been protesting in front of the the white house and saying if you don't, if you do this, we're not going to be your base for 2012. but the bottom line, there are people hurting out there who need jobs. >> that's right, now. >> kelly: chris, you said this is going to happen, why not do it now? >> well, you know, it's going to happen, but get rerouted away from that aquifer, you cannot sacrifice a freshes natural resource like drinking

water. so valuable. in new york, we've got plenty of drinking water, in the midwest it's a scarce resource and we've got to proekt it. that's why republican in nebraska and others in the middle of the united states have protested against it and before president obama was in office. >> kelly: and andrea, he makes a valid point. you can't say we don't want the president to do it because of the aquifer and can't say it's politics. >> they can reroute it and will. we have a long history of building pipelines in this country. what's unfortunate, is that the plan for this pipeline might not last until 2013. that's a lot of work and wasted time that they can do right now. it's not about water, it's about winning. >> well, it's about the water. >> kelly: we've got to go. we could go into another topic, it's not about water, but winning. and andrea and chris, good to

see you both and keep debating once we're gone. >> we might. >> we always do. >> kelly: all right. jamie. >> jamie: he's already lost his job of 46 years. could penn state's joe paterno end up facing criminal charges, too? we're going to take a look at that next. who ordered the cel that can help lower olesterol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole gin oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios.

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distouched by many especially parents. joe paterno it is said by many, did the legal minimum in terms of reporting what happened in 2002. if that's the case, the legal minimum. what needs to change? >> well, potentially, the weight in pennsylvania, the law may not be biting enough. not in line with most states in the union and that could come into play here, not only the cause, but potentially a defense down the road and simply put, the notice requirements are just not as heavy here as they are elsewhere and that could be part of it going forward. i think what we saw today in that pre-game ceremony, which was appropriate, the right thing to do and stunning is that before one person allegedly hurt the children, allegedly many fails people, but on top of that, i think we also saw the damage here is incalcuable and a long time to sort out the legal, the moral

and the organizations and universities have to be aware as they go forward who has to report to whom is critical. >> jamie: even the president said the responsibility is to protect children and students. elliss, i have a lot to get to, let me ask you this, mike mcqueary, the one alleged to have witnessed the act on the young child. reported it to joe paterno and eventually made its way up the chain of authority. how credible is he as a witness on one hand important not only to the grand jury, but civil or criminal trial, but he could have made a call, many would have said, to 911 or pulled that child out there have, but didn't. >> well, those are two different things. the quality of witness that he is as opposed to what he should have done are two different things, we'll find out as to the quality of witness. somebody believed him and during the grand jury investigation, somebody in the attorney general's office believed him. i pointed out yesterday on fox, this has to be analyzed not just in terms of what could have happened or should

have happened, but the reality of what might have been the case up there. one of the key parts of the investigation, jamie is going to be whether or not it was an enabling culture and if that's the case, that's the most damning aspect of this because he simply would have been functioning within it. look, the attorney generals had every opportunity, the grand jury had every opportunity to charge joe paterno, mike mcqueary anybody they wanted, they did not. that's not insignificant as you look at this, particularly when you consider the heavy handed governor's had in it. the governor has been of course very public about it in the course of the week, a direct rifelationship what happened. we're not talking about what somebody did, but what they failed to do and that's the dichotomy between the legal and moral quick in. >> jamie: elliss, let me ask you about that. i read the indictment, it's a chilling document about what happened and what was allowed, allegedly, to continue to happen and i will say allegedly happened, of course. but. >> we have to.

but the graduate student i'm talking about allegedly witnessed this act was never questioned by university police. what's their job then even if the allegation is an allegation at one point to not ask questions. >> that's an institutional issue. >> jamie: and civil, is that a civil case? could every parent involved in this tragedy, if it's true, file civil charges, too? >> jamie, there's literally not one thing that did happen or could have happened from penn state where they are right now to where they want to be in the future. this is going to take maybe a decade, and i'm not trying to be dramatic here, there's going to certainly be civil litigation after the criminality, as a portion and when you look at it from that context, what people have said, how they have found the university not formally in the course of the grand jury investigation, but going forward in statements made so far are all relevant to that.

there's no question, you're right, that could go and will go on for a long time. >> jamie: let me ask you a question, should they be playing football today? >> yes, i don't have a problem with them playing football today. the people that, as i mentioned earlier, were most directly relate today this and affected by it, have been disposed of in one form or the other, and there's nothing in the mind that would take away from the right to play, the privilege to playing there today. and how they handled the pre-game was stunning for most of us, emotional, right thing to do and doesn't cure anything long-term, but i think it's a place and appropriate way to handle it. >> jamie: and the vigil for the victims, alleged victims of this tragedy. we'll learn more over the next days and thanks for your insight today. >> my pleasure, thanks a lot. >> jamie: kelly. >> kelly: right now, fox news alert, italy's prime minister expected to step down any

moment now, after the country's parliament approved reforms. and they're vying to save the country from an economic meltdown. so, how could this situation and your impact to our economy right here at home? and the managing partner of capital investments management joins us today. ed, always good to see you. this is, wow, a very important topic that could affect the united states economy and even the global economy and what has to take place with italy, in terms of the moving forward financially? >> well, i tell you, kelly, it's an important discussion, people have to understand in this country what goes on in europe and around the world does impact us. it's important to state up-to-date on what's taking place. because in europe right now, you're start to go see, almost like a grass fire you put out on one place and it comes up in another place and we have a systemic world, and what it means is when one thing occurs in europe or in asia, it does impact, every market around

the world and in europe right now, this is not going to be put out anytime soon and you need to be very aware of what's happening and how to handle your portfolio accordingly. i'm happy he's stepping down and it needs to happen, but the problem is a long time away from literally going away. >> you're right. we've seen the situations with the priests and now seeing with italy and see how that's impacted the united states, friday, everyone recovered on wall street, due to the fact that there was announced that berlusconi was stepping down, but, look at the future here and the fact that we're so inextricably tied to the global economy. as you mentioned any one of the markets if they teeter on the edge it affects us here at home. how will any of this improve the job growth that we must have in our country to deal with the 9% unemployment? >> well, it's actually funny, because, i don't see any way that it improves job growth with one exception, things aren't as bad as maybe people have forecasted. remember, a lot of our

companies get the majority of our income and trade from outside the united states. most of the growth happens because of the trades they do outside of our borders, because of that, what a lot of people have done, they've stopped and said, wait, we don't know what's happening in europe right now. let's slow down our job hiring. once they start to get a feeling that things are going to be okay, they might start to hire, but right now they've held off, you know, almost like, you know, a menu of whatever you want to choose today for a corporation to hold off tcould be held, could be europe, whatever. >> as you put in the perspective, when you give the description that it's like a 747 plane, explain that for me, please. >> yeah. >> well, the world economy, kelly is like a 747. the a 747 has four engines and those are the north america, united states and canada. you have europe, you have asia and you have the emerging markets and when one of those engines starts to sputter and especially europe right now is sputtering, it doesn't mean the world economy collapses, but it does put pressure on the other engines and europe

is definitely weak right now and the united states is starting and trying to recover, and some of these other markets right now are doing fairly well, so the plane isn't flying real well, but it's not crashing and that's what people have to understand. >> and we're certainly experiencing a lot of turbulence out there. it's rough. >> yes, we are. >> thanks. jamie. >> jamie: he when you say ride, kelly, maybe you want to ride this one. the buick 2012 lacrosse, with better gas mileage and gary gastelu takes the lacrosse for a test drive. >> you can call it striking, large, luxurious, just don't call it a hybrid, even though it is. for 2012, the lacrosse comes standard with a four cylinder engine, e-assist with an electric motor and battery pack and general motors is loathe to use the h-board to describe is he to doesn't

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it's not so much as saving the money as it is the environment and things like that, and mother nature isn't always herself interested in taking care of. one other in any event have i feature, remote function lets you start up the car inside the house which is weird i thought it wasn't supposed to be running when it's not moving. the 2012 rah cross, gary gastelu. >> jamie: you heat it up before you get in, that's the point. if you want to learn morn about the 2012 lacrosse. check it out. >> kelly: u.s. troops training for war in a very unique way. and we take you inside the state of the art training facility next. i wouldn't do that. pay the check?

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>> welcome back everybody.

they are simulating real life conditions in afghanistan. right here on the u.s. soil. this is the latest effort by the u.s. military to prepare our troops overseas. hi, elizabeth. this looks and feels and smells like a village in afghanistan. >> and faced with jarring life like explosions and simulated gun fight. >> and the interpreter and-- >> they're training inside a north carolina warehouse for what likely will be the real deal in afghanistan. >> before they come in here, they are not sure what to expect and don't really know what it is and after they go through it, it's going to be a while. >> the trainer is an exact replica of an afghan village with sensor adetails like the sounds of farm animals, and the smells of roasting meat. >> we're back in the town because we want to check out individuals out there.

>> they interact with actors who play villagers that react to every move they make. >> and out here, we're working with them culture-wise and how they should act with other people in afghanistan. >> and in a sense like drawing guns close to a mosque or a school can turn locals against them and impact the outcome of their mission. >> if you go to the village and mean and kicking down doors and disrespect their churches and mosques, they're not going to want to help you out and give information. >> there are 176 cameras in the facility so when marines are done with an exercise they can see what they did right and wrong and say it's the best preparation before deployment not only to get prepares for the environment, but also the culture. >> jamie: thanks, elizabeth. thanks. >> kelly: for years doctors have been telling us to stop passing the salt shaker, could

new research change everything? >> we'll ask a member of our medical a-team next.

>> doctors have been warning us for years to cut back on

the salt. a new study saying we need salt and the body will rebel if it doesn't get enough. and from mount sinai, you think i would know this by heart. i have a friend who is a photographer in our d.c. bureau and he basically passed out because he was trying to follow his wife's low sodium diet. so we need some salt, right. >> absolutely some salt. as you said, everything is correct, too much is not good for us, because when we take in a lot of satellite you absorb tons of fluid, water, 70% of our body weight and as a result you get that absorption in the vessels and puts a lot of pressure on your heart and you can have a problem with your breathing called congestive heart failure, et cetera and doctors take diuretics to reverse the salt. at the same time if you really reduce the amount of salt you're taking, not only cutting down on sodium, but

potassium, magnesium that comes with the satellite. it can increase your cholesterol and dry gltriglycer and jamie has been a supporter of moderation and right amount. how much salt we need to take in, too much in america. the average is about 5,000 milligrams, which is too much. normally you should be taking about 2500 milligrams, one teaspoon, that's all we need. now, if you're-- if you have a family history of blood pressure, african-american, older you want to go down to 1500 milligrams which is very important. the issue is, kelly as we always have had this discussion, processed foods are a big problem. the french fries that we saw. >> jamie: and celters are not sodium-free. do you have to salt your food? so much of what we eat has sodium already. >> the point of this study.

we're getting enough salt and i'm mile an hour you brought it up. we're getting all the salt in your diet with processed food you don't need to add to it. so, again, the same kind of advice we've given before, take two vegetables, fruits, cut down on the salt, just moderation and always check with your doctor to make sure you have enough of this. >> jamie: and look at the labels, kell lishgs 890 milligrams of salt. 1200 milligrams of salt in one serving. can you tell folks how to read the labels to make the right decision sns. >> extremely important point. pay tonings to this, once you start looking at the information, you're going to, it's scary to see how much we're taking in without really knowing it. and that's how we gaine weight. how you see the swelling in the fingers, and the next thing you know you're going to have some heart issues, it's not necessary. >> kelly: and that's alarming because as yam gentlemany was talking about, the sodium is in the good. i was surprised to learn eggs when you crack it open,

there's already sodium in theren. >> the difference between this country and other european countries don't take as much salt, not going to the gym not working out 24 hours a day and partly because they watch what they take because the salt and ionized salt isn't going to help us. just pay attention. >> jamie: good advice, doc. >> kelly: wonderful. that will do it for us, i'm kelly wright. >> jamie: i'm jamie colby. brought to have you with us today. coming up next the journal editorial report. we wish you a great day today. keep is right here on the fox news channel. >> kelly: don't pass the salt. >> jamie: no more. pepper is okay, the doc says. [ male announcer ] just how many appliances

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