cut it out and put it on an at on tv in a second. >> last word? >> i think newt is great. the policy change every week and somebody might be the next frontrunner next week. >> okay. don't miss greta. see you tomorrow night. tonight she's the woman everyone has been wait to go hear from, mrs. gloria cain. now for the first time she goes public about the sexual harassment accusations against her husband, herman cain. but that's not all. tonight you will meet many members of the cain family but first here's gloria cain. >> mrs. cane, thank you for doing this. >> thank you for having me. >> you aren't nervous, are you? >> very. >> well, don't me. >> all right. >> let's do this. let's start with the painful stuff and then let's move to the fun stuff. >> okay. that's good. >> all right. i have seen in the past two weeks you have seen all the accusations. >> yes, i have. >> your thoughts?

>> the first week and a half i think i was in shock because i didn't see it coming. there were such ugly things said, and i kept thinking who are these people talking about? this isn't herman. after about a week and a half of watching the news and everybody having an opinion, i decided not to watch any more news. and at that point i could tell my spirits started to lift. and i know the person that he is, and i know that the person that they were talking about, i don't know who that person is. and we've been there for 43 years. and if i haven't seen parts of that person in 43 years, i don't think i'm that simple that i would miss something that significant.

so after about a week and a half of listening, i decided, okay, enough is enough. everybody has an opinion, but they don't know herman. >> how did you first hear about it? did mr. cain sort of give you a tipoff that this stuff is coming? >> i think -- what was it? that sunday night he mentioned something in passing. there may be a news story coming out, i'm not sure, and it deals with sexual harassment. and i'm thinking, well, it's just hear say or whatever. and then on the news that night i started seeing the actual story, and it started to snowball. so at that point i really didn't know what hit me at that point, but it started that sunday night when the news story first hit the media. that was my first knowing about

it. >> did you at any point in the week or two weeks that followed, pull him aside and cross-examine him, okay, herman, what's the really story, did you do this or not do this? >> yes, of course, because i wanted to know are there any accusations, do you remember any of these people, do you remember anything happening that was considered sexual harassment or what? he kept saying no. he told me about the first lady who made the accusations through the national restaurant association. for some reason that rang a bell because years ago, i think when he first mentioned something about there was some accusations of harassment. and i said, oh, well, is there

anything to it? no. and from that point on i think the next thing he said was the accusations were deemed not reliable or unfounded. they were unfounded, and that was the end of that. that was, what, 15 years ago? and from that point on we had never even said anything else about it. so it was totally a shock. and the thing that i couldn't understand even with that, if a person is so hurt or traumatized because of something you alleged happened to you, why would you wait 15 years to say something about it? i think if it were me, i would

have to say something right away. i couldn't live with something that hurt me to that extent. so when he said it was unfounded and we didn't speak anything else about it, it was said and done. it was just done. >> then there was a second one, it's a much more graphic allegation of essentially of a woman coming to washington. >> now that one i totally don't believe. i watched her on the news that day because i wanted to hear her specific allegations. and the things that she was saying, i'm sitting there thinking you weren't in the car with herman. i don't know where you have been, but i know herman cain,

and i know he has -- he has always had too much respect for women to treat them in any type of negative way. that wasn't a part of his being. we dated for a year. we were engaged for a year. we've been married for 43 years. he is so -- i guess if you understand what old school is, of that generation where men still wanted to open the doors for women. and if we are walking along the street, he wants me to walk on the outside next to the curb. it's not just me, it's any woman he's walking with because old school people think they are supposed to be women protecters. so if anything is going to happen, if mud is going to get thrown on them, if a car is going to go out of control, he's

the type of person who would rather be there and get hit first rather than have the woman walking on the outside. he's always been that type person. so to hear such graphic allegations and know that that would have been something that was totally disrespectful to her as a woman, and i know that's not the person he is. he totally respects women. >> is there any chance, and i have to ask you the question, women always think their husband -- the very public thing with the wives of all the years, they have a family and there's another side of them off to the side where they have some extracurricular activity? >> no, because his conscious would bother him. his conscious would bother him and he couldn't look me straight in the eye. and i can usually tell if

there's something wrong. it was like, well, i was supposed to be such and such a place, whatever. his conscious bothers him to the point that he would say something to me. so, yes, i know the type of women that you are thinking about, that the little woman at home is the last to know, but i never see myself as being the little woman at home, and i've always said when i've seen stories like that, i will not be one of those people who will stand up on stage with a smile and knowing that you were wrong. i'm not going to do that. so you know not to do anything wrong because you will be there by yourself. so he knows how i feel. i seriously in my soul don't think he's that type person. >> how has it been on the

family? you've got kids, grandchildren. >> my daughter was angry, but she knows her dad also. he's an outgoing person, but he's always been very respectful of people. so everybody who knows him knows he's outgoing. that's different from being disrespectful or having any type of harassing natures. my son, it was that monday night before he even saw the story, and he texted me to this is ridiculous. this is just very ridiculous. and he says to me when do you get your chance to tell your side of the story so you can shut this down? they know him also. people who have been around him know him. >> you have been married a long time.

troubles in your marriage? and i hate to ask this, but that's the -- it's a long marriage. and it's a good thing it's a long marriage. >> yeah. yeah, there have been troubles, there have been times when -- and when people always say i have been happily married for 43 years, i usually tell them that's not true. we have loved each other for 43 years. he's happy sometimes, i'm happy sometimes. the times when he makes me angry, i'll go to another room. the times when he makes -- when i make him angry, he will go to another room. so we have the times when we don't agree, but we eventually talk about what the situation is and at that point we still may not agree, but we leave it alone. it's like, okay, you have your opinion and i have mine, and we move on. >> but you never split up or

separated or anything like that? >> no, no. no. >> in terms of watching all this unfold, does it make you dislike the process? >> extremely. extremely because it made me realize you can live your whole life trying to be respectful, trying to be faithful, trying to have faith, just trying to treat people right, and anyone can come from anyplace and say whatever they want to say about you. the problem with that is there are people who will believe that person over you. and to know that you are being honest and you are telling the truth, and then you have to try to prove that you are telling the truth, that's probably one

of the worse feelings that a person can have, to be telling the truth and then have to try to prove you are telling the truth all because someone can come and say anything they want to about you. and that can happen. if it happened to us, it can happen to anyone, and that's sad. >> how do voters know whether to believe the women or mr. cain in any of this? >> i think they have to look within themselves. and you have to get to a point of relying on your own instincts. and just coming to a decision on your own. i don't know if those people will of be able to be 100% sure. since all of this has happened, i've been out around in my neighborhood and people who know

me and who know herman, you can still get this little feeling that they are even wondering, well, could this be true? and that's a very hurtful thing. and people don't realize that when you throw -- when those people threw mud on herman, they didn't think about the fact that you are throwing mud on the wife or the spouse. you are throwing mud on the children. and we all have to endure what you are doing and it's worse when you know that some of the things that these people are saying, no. >> is there any part of you that wonders whether there's a little piece that this could be true? >> no. because i keep going back to in the beginning i started thinking in my mind could i have missed

something? but then i always go back to the beginning. no, i'm not missing anything. i know herman. i know him. now there was one other thing, and i'm one of those people, and i have this thing of putting the pieces together. so it's like the power of deduction. i looked at especially this last lead and the things that she said, and i'm thinking he would have to have a split personality to do the things that she said. and i hadn't even mentioned it to herman. i said had anyone mentioned the fact that -- and i know to some people it won't make a difference, but it makes a difference to me -- no one has mentioned the fact that during that time when herman was

working with the national restaurant association, he had a little lead who was his assistant, and she loved mr. cain. she just loved mr. cain. this lead was an ordained minister. and they used to get in discussions concerning scripture. they just had this way of just being able to connect with each other on a spiritual level, along with the business level. see, this is another thing about when people throw allegations around, with me saying this, there will be some people who will take very innocent comments, and if your man is going towards that gutter mentality, they will always be able to try and put some type of

gutter meaning to whatever you are saying, no matter what you are saying, their minds will always go back to that type of mentality. but this little lead was a true christian. like i said, she was an ordained minister. and like i say, you would have to have a split personality. you would have to feel not any guilt whatsoever to be able to do the things that this woman accused him of doing and then have this lead who he knew was an ordained minister, it's like those two things just -- i don't think the average person, i don't think anyone would be able to function on a playing field like that. this type mentality on this side and this type -- no, i don't believe it. >> after the first one -- but after the second one, rather, when the more graphic

descriptions came out, did you confront him about that one and say what's up with that one or not? >> no. >> did he say anything to you? >> no. i heard his comments with his news conference. >> you didn't and him -- the two of you together, you didn't and him? >> no. because i listened to what she said and i'm thinking, no, i'm sorry, that's -- some of the things that you are saying about him, that's not herman. so, no, i didn't and him about that and i'm not being naive. >> straight ahead, our conversation with gloria cain continues and it's getting personal. you will hear intimate details about her marriage of 43 years and how she first met mr. herman cain. you will only see it right here and it's happening. there's news tonight in the battle over president obama healthcare overhaul. this is going to have a giant

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>> mrs. herman cain, gloria, is speaking publicly for the first time and she's telling you about her 43 year marriage to

mr. herman cain only right here on the record. once again, here's gloria cain. >> has it been exciting to be married to herman cain or exhausting? >> exhausting. >> that's what it sounds like. >> exhausting. even now, exhausting. [laughter] >> would he be a good president? >> i think he would. i think he would be a great president. >> you think he would? >> yeah. yeah, i think he would. i think he would try to make a difference. he would. that's the one reason he's doing this. and if i didn't understand that, i would not agree with it. i know it's his way of tryinge n that bubble. >> sometimes i let my self go there, but then i try to pull myself back in that i don't want

to start projecting too far in the future because then i would worry more so i try to take one day at a time. and in that way if or when that happens, then i have faith that the lord will have me ready to do whatever i need to do that's going to help him. >> be tough? >> at times. >> strong? >> at times. >> tell me, how old were you when you met herman cain? >> i think maybe 18, 19. >> do you remember the first time you saw him? >> yes. >> did you think he was cute? >> he was okay. >> just okay? >> he was okay. [laughter] >> just okay? >> he was okay. >> well, what was the problem?

i mean a guy that's just okay, i got to tell you, i don't think okay is -- >> i think maybe i had a boyfriend at the time. >> who was not okay, who was better, right? >> at that point, but he fell by the way side too. >> so herman cain was just okay? >> he was okay. he was nice, but i wasn't interested in meeting someone at that time. >> where did you meet him or where did you see him. >> his family, his father owned a little neighborhood grocery store and herman worked part-time i think during college at the store. i had a very good friend from church who happened to live down the street from the little grocery store. that weekend my friend was having a party and she wanted me to stay overnight with her.

so that particular day, earlier in the day we were walking down the street. she had a letter to mail. the mailbox was really across the street from this little store. so we are walking down the street and he is standing out on the corner in front of the store because there were no customers at that point, with his hands in his pocket and just happy-go-lucky. and when my friend started to talk with him she said i want you to meet my little sister. and he wanted to know your little sister? she said, yes, this is the little sister i've been trying to introduce you to. she did not tell him she referred to me as her little sister because i was a year younger than she was. so she just referred to me as her little sister but we were about the same height, same weight and everything. so he at that point became

interested. so this is little sister? so he starts talking, and i'm thinking who is he? why is he talking so much? she introduced us. we talked a little bit. we went back to her house. that night we had -- that she had the party, i was there, herman was there. i was introduced to a friend of theirs who was already attending the school i was about to start attending. so i'm interested in talking with her, and herman is interested in talking with me. it's like why is he still talking? why doesn't he just go away? but he kept talking, and he kept talking. it's like, okay, i think for the next year he would drop by my

school. if i saw him on the other side of the bridge it's like why is he here? why does he keep showing up? he just talked all the time. and i just did not like that. so i avoided him. >> did you know he was deliberately doing this? did you clue in that he was obviously interested in you? >> i kind of new but i wasn't interested in him. >> at all? >> at all. but i think this went on for about a year. and the following year at christmas, i think a friend gave him my phone number and he called. we must have talked on the phone for two hours. and at that point i appreciated the personality. he was smart. he always just had this laughing, bubbly personality.

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>> if your family had doubts in you about the stuff on tv twould really be crushing. i will really have to ask myself, could i go on? but i know that my family believes me because they know me, as she says. they know me. that is very comforting. >> all right. what was it that you hung around the school for a year -- almost like a stalker to her while she is trying to go to school and you talk too much? you know, you were so persistent

until there was a conversation that changed on the phone. what was it -- what did you like about her? >> well, i didn't have a steady girlfriend. she was in college. i was in college i. you sound like a reject at this point. >> no, no, no. >> one of many? >> i not have a steady girlfriend. she didn't tell you when we went on that first date that, very first date, i didn't date anybody else from that point on. neither did she. we knew then. i had scheduled my christmas dating list for the week eye cancelled all of them after i took her out that first time. >> where did you take her? >> we went to a movie. >> what movie, do you remember? >> charlton heston, "number one." >> you both remember? >> put your arm around her in the movie? >> maybe once or twice. i didn't try to get fresh -- not the first date. but here's the funny thing.

she will tell you this, too. i didn't have a lot of money. in fact, hijust enough money to buy the tickets to the movie. i did buy in popcorn and a coca-cola. and after, i said, would you like to go and get something to eat? she said, yes. i'm going, i'm in trouble now. i didn't have any money in my pocket. >> why did you ask that then? >> that's -- that's the juvenile thing to do. but get this -- she bailed me out. we go to this drive-in burger place, called the split t., wasn't that it? >> i think so. >> we drive up. i had a couple more dollars left. and so i'm thinking to myself, okay, i said -- they would wait on you at the car. a guy comes over. do you know what you want yet? nope, not yet. so he would come back and i said, do you know what you would like? she said, well, i'm not really

that hungry. i said, okay, took the ticket off the car, took her home. you are not that hungry? we can just go. we don't have to stay. you are shaking your head -- >> but the other thing was, all during the movie, i am thinking, i am so hungry, i will be happy when this is over and we can get something to eat. i know i want a hamburger and i want some french fries. i am thinking, okay, movie's over, we are going to gets something to eat. but then i tried to be cute and not seem greedy. when he said, well, would you like something to eat? i thought i paused and at least make it sound, nice, i'm not that hungry. and he said, okay, and took the ticket -- i was like, what just happend? >> who is the disciplinearians for the kids growing up? >> i think i was more so because high traveled. >> yeah. >> and one or two times he

disciplined them, with our daughter, all he had to say was -- i'm going to spank you. and she would fall out crying. her feelings -- >> this is the one who's turning 40? >> yes! >> he never really spanked her. >> tell my age! d. >> she told your age. the whole world knows your age! >> come on in here. >> can you believe she did that to you on tv. >> mom threw youurn the bus. [laughter] >> anyway, nice to meet all of you. is this fun for you? or is this painful? >> no! it's exciting. >> very exciting. definitely an experience. definitely an experience. oh, yeah. it's exciting. >> it is? your mother said that your father talks too much? [laughter] >> all right. [laughter] >> we are immune to it. >> you don't listen?

>> we listen. yeah. >> they listen well. >> growing up, who was the disciplinearian between the two sfwh. >> probably both. >> really? >> i would have thought your father would be a pushover. >> it was both. >> who is this? >> we got one more. bring 'em all in. >> come on in. this is preston. >> how old are you? >> nicknamed bam-bam. >> and -- >> selena. >> how old are you? >> 12. >> and how old are you? >> 7. carol. >> and this is my wife. >> i am not going to ask you your age. >> thank you. >> you haven't told me, this whole campaign has been a shock? >> kind of shocking. >> shock. >> all right. >> it's interesting. definitely. >> in what way? >> you never know what's going to happen from day to day. >> are you interested in politics? >> we are now.

[laughter] >> anyway, well, thank you very much for taking your day with us. >> great. >> it will be an interesting campaign. >> uh-huh. >> yes, it is. >> there will be good times and bad times. >> fun times and not-so-fun times. but never dull. it will never be dull. >> that's true. thank you, gret a. thank you very much. >> all right. >> coming up, the case you have been waiting for, so many supreme court cases have nothing to do with you. but this one is all about you. you care about this one big time. we will tell but it. that's next. ♪ ♪ mama said there'd be days like this ♪ ♪ "there'll be days like this," mama said ♪ [ male announcer ] the toughest job on the planet just got a little easier. with one touch technoly and even an air scrubber. the nissan quest. innovation for family. innovation for all.

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or not. here's the kicker. the decision will come down before the november, 2012 election, which must make a lot of politicians nervous, including president obama. the supreme court could make its biggest political impact since it's bush versus gore ruling. florida attorney general pam bondi joins us. good evening. i suppose it's no surprise the supreme court is taking this place? >> no, greta. as we've always said we have been extremely hopeful hoping they would take the case because it is of great national importance. >> i hear both sides saying i am confident i will win and i look at this case and i was confident it would go to the supreme court to be decided on constitutionality, but i don't know how in the world anyone could possibly jump in those nine justices heads and determine which way they will fall on this one? >> well, of course that can't be done. but, you know, no one can any

longer say that this challenge is not serious by the amount of time the supreme court allocated to hear this case and the speed in which they took the case shows the incredible importance to the country. so we are very optimistic and we are very pleased. and in our opinion they gave us what may be an unprecedented amount of time this term for a modern day supreme court. >> but five and a half hours devoted to arguments, i've never seen anything remotely like that but usually it's an hour on each side. >> that's right. >> here's a thing i find particularly annoying, this case should have been up before the supreme court a year ago. instead all this money has been expended, all these justices and all the circuits have excellent of lot of time, their clerks and everything and the white house refused to expedite it.

they refused to use rule 11 to reach down of. and the kicker today the white house spokesperson said after fighting expedited review, we are pleased that the court has agreed to hear this case. that's a big, fat lie. that's a lie. they don't want that case there. >> that's right. >> that's a lie. >> that's right, but you know what? we do and the american people want it to go there, every taxpayer needs it to be there and every business needs it to be there and we are just incredibly gratified that the supreme court has now taken it, arguments will be in march and we will have a decision in june. again, the amount of time, as you said, that they allocated is truly unprecedented for a modern day supreme court. so that just shows the tremendous importance to this country. >> it's extremely important but i wouldn't put money either way on the decision. i have no idea on whether this is going to be constitutional or not. it will be fascinating to watch.

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he will know what's happening. >> we should say this is from the republican side of the house. this is from the leadership in the house so it's not going to have democratic policy or can democratics put their policy statements on it? >> they can write their own app. this goes to all the members, republicans members as well. gives you the policy, the background of where we stand, what we are taking. it gives you the latest communication. gives you the latest video of what it happening. gives you the latest press release from speaker boehner. you will get it all here with one stop. >> what have your colleagues said about this? >> they are excited about it. you will be amaze at the number of members who have an ipad on the floor. the e-mails they get of what is happening, it gives them better information to know what is happening. but why shouldn't the american people have the same information? >> and it's a very clever add you did. >> very clever ad. >> you star in it. >> it's an ad, hopefully everybody sees it and will

download it. if anyone in this country has an interest in politics or interest in a bill or wants the policy background you can get an application for it right on your tone, on your ipad, and you will be up-to-date from the minute on what is happening on the floor. >> now the ad congressman mccarthy and his staff made, it is very clever. go to our site and we just posted it. coming up, is there a job opening at the white house? it's probably not what you are thinking. stay tuned. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now. two of the most important are energy security and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands. this resource has the ability to create hundreds of thousands ojobs. at our kearl project in canada, we'll be able to produce these oil sands with the same emissions as many other oils and that's a huge breakthrough. that's good for oucountry's energy security

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