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>> dana: that's it for us on "the five." thank you for watching. see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ captioned by closed captioning services, inc greg gutfeld is off doing god knows what. let's go to our cia operator. he is shreding the constitution since the year 2000. mike, what is coming up in tonight's show? >> it is the year 2001, andy. thanks very much. it is exciting in the newsroom and exciting time. we are pretty much at capacity since we flung open the doors to tonight's show and let in the occupy wall streeters in. we would pan the audience burkts we only have this one stationary camera down here in america's newsroom. what prompted new york city mayor bloomburg to finally hose out the park?
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i told you to keep this pre segment game short and punchy. and they are showing that several republican candidates are in a dead heat. we will show you how to make your own pie chart for the table. and the penn state pedophile scandal informed sandusky and will disgust anybody who is not a pedophile. we will review it and you can try not to throw up. >> thanks. >> andy, is it true that you've got greg hog tied and stuffed under a futon in your cousin tuti es six-floor walk up. >> six-floor? no. let's start. i am here with weekend co-host allison. her new book "my life is way better than yours" comes out next week. and joe is here. and bill schulz who thinks she auditioning to replace regis
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right now. and his new book is available on his website. and he cries to his mommy because he is a tommy. our "new york times" correspondent. good to see you, pinch. > times reporter call it the spiritual heart of the occupy wall street movement. and today that heart is broken. this is for you, protesters. ♪ we found love in a hopeless place ♪ ♪ we found love in a hopeless place ♪ ♪ we found love in a hopeless place ♪ >> make it stop. >> ♪ found love in a hopeless place ♪ there is water in front of me. >> i would like to thank our five viewers who have stuck with us through this. well, they were here and they have been cleared, get used to it. late monday new york's finest swept the park clean of the occupy wall street protesters, and in the process arrested
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200 people, including five journalists for reasons i haven't figured out. and on tuesday the new york judge ruled the park's owners have a right to placey -- place restrictions on their property. that means no more tents or sleepovers and. bloomburg defended his flip-flop by citing the area that became intolerable. he said what was happening in the park was not that. >> new york city is the city where you can come and express yourself. we have a history going back to the founding of the city being open and welcoming. what was happening in zucati park was not that. >> i told you he said that. maybe next time believe me. >> what is the deal? have you and the park's owner become concerned that it was to impose health and fire safety hazards to the protestor protesters and the surrounding community? >> i have become increasingly concerned that the occupation was coming to pose a health and fire safety hazard to the
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protesters and to the surrounding communities. >> i stand correct etd. let's look at disturbing tape at how a protestor eventually made his get away. >> you shall overcome, my friend. you too, turtle. michael, i know this is a leading question, but what do you make of all of this? >> what do i make of all of this? i am just happy that it is almost over, but it is totally not going to be over. there is really not more one can say about a bunch of hippies, and i'm sorry about the hippie joke again, but this thing has gone on for so long, and it is actually hurting them. i think bloomburg did them a favor at this point. because of the cholera outbreaks and the murders and the violence and such maybe if
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they get down they can make it look worse. >> i think a lot of libertarians and i would include myself in that had empathy for these guys. they were anti-corporate bailouts. i also feel like most of us feel like what you just described. >> the thing about this, i saw those little things i overlap. but when you talk to these people, you know, once you get through the incoherence, you get to the point that they didn't like corporate bailouts, but they like a government takeover of almost anything. i never understood the message. >> allison, the owners said after the park is clean they will let the pro -- the protesters come back as long as they abide by the rules. and they did start streaming back to the park. it is a fair solution all-around, isn't it? >> yes, unless they set upen camp ment's. they are not supposed to be living there. if we want to live there and
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get together and talk about it, i think they may have accomplished something actually during these two months. and now everybody understands the 99%. that has become part of vernacular. i hear that term being used, the 1%, the 99%. maybe mission accomplished, and maybe they can get together and not just have big tents of horniness. >> and as far as i can tell they can go down there every day and do their protests. they have to go home at night or stay standing up all night which you are not allowed to lie down or put tents up. >> right. and they may do that. they may have a swing shift where they do stand vigil all night. >> isn't this bad news for currently empty, pas in new york city? isn't that next? >> first i would like to say my new album is out. >> good. >> they should declare victory and go home at this point. to be running back and forth
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to take over this park, you have already said what you had to say. now you have this 99% that is out there. i think it shows there is a nice microcosm in the show that what if they could create their perfect society and they were raping and shooting each other and giving each other vaw their y'all diseases. >> isn't it an accomplishment if they entered 99% of the vernacular. and the people i talked to planned to overthrow capitalism. >> it is called a start. >> bill, where will you sleep now? >> i have a wonderful box on the upper eastside, where the 1% lives, sir. one thing i would agree with is that that is a private park available to all of the public. right now these guys are in direct violation to it. most of the public can't get there. if they do they will get raped. now the park is a lot less
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rapey which makes it sort of like forced love in the time of come -- time of cholera. >> that's very nice. sally kohn has a great piece. it is fox news .com a couple hours ago. but in someways this is a blessing in disguise. they will even say winter is coming. this is a very different way. >> conditions were improving in terms of what they were doing. it was getting dirt yes, sir and people were saying, this is looking very bad. although i don't understand why they are mad about these things. take this party to the white house. go protest outside the university. >>:00 cow pie capitol hill or occupy your guidance counselor who told you to get a degree in archaeology. even indiana jones had to get a side job because he couldn't get employment. those are the people he had to complain to. >> it seems like the nypd went out of its way to make it hard
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if not impossible for the press to cover it. that really bothered me. >> it bothered me too. let me defend the nypd. let me defend the 99%. the working class men and women of the nypd. look, what they are trying to do -- i'm sure you followed this or watched this on twitter. it said, please, everybody come down and flood the zone and prevent them from doing what they are doing. i don't imagine they were trying to prevent journalists from doing their job, but they were trying to prevent and they stopped the subways too. it was a bit over the top. you see what happens at a number of other places. >> but i think four or five journalists got arrested for doing -- for only doing their job. i think another was the new york daily news or a new york post guy. these were not guys with random credentials saying, "i
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am the press." >> they have a ticket. >> that was the problem. >> that was funny about the daily news too. yea, we support this. but then the minute one of their own was arrested they say, we are very -- disturbed about this. >> what do you make of bloomburg? for awhile he said they have a right to be there, and then he saw this. my theory is he saw somebody smoking a cigarette in the park. >> maybe that was it. i think he was very patient. they have been there six weeks to two months now, and all of the mayors had a conference call at some point yesterday and said let's all do this in math. i heard there have been dozens of millions of dollars spent on cleaning up the taxpayers pay that money for all of the over time.
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i think the mayor went as far as he could. >> joe, what do you think is next for the occupy yes, sirs. >> besides trying to find the other places to stink up. >> i really don't know. there are some people that i agree with mike that there was some legitimate grievances and there were some friends i was passionate about. then you start to get these people in masks and they have created a heroic image of a man with a mask throwing things on a t-shirt. you can't say it is a few bad apples. that's the face of the movement. if you are smart you will get away. lie down with dogs and wake up with fleece. literally they are waking up with fleas. or there is some sort of creeping varmint. they need to be taken seriously by the real 99%, not people in grad school for 90 years. for the people whose jobs they ruin, the street cart vendors and all of the businesses around there, all the people took a financial hit.
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>> it is for the greater good. >> the movement has been focused on staying on a little patch of land. that's what they are writing about and having committees about, and the solution to what is ailing america, it is like collective eyes in the grain. >> it is a five-year plan and a new concept. >> any words of of encouragement to your come -- comrades sf. >> it is an outline of taking the movement from here and greater good courage. >> my advice, occupy city field and you can stay there through next fall and it is fine. from clearing out to a total lo -- laugh. that's sandusky's chilling and unbelievable defense. here is how he explained the 2002 incident where a witness
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saw him sexually assault a youth. >> we were showering and horsing around, and he actually turned all of the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor, and we were -- as i recall -- possibly snapping a towel, horse play. >> if i am a horse i am basically suing. horses don't do that. then there was the exchange of the night between costas and the alleged abuser. >> are you sexually attracted to young boys, underage boys? >> am i sexually attracted to underage boys? sexually attracted, i enjoy young people. i love to be around them. i -- but no, i am not sexually attracted to young boys. >> that's good to get around that answer. take us to a trip before you get there.
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sandusky's attorney is not helping telling the" today" show jie. i have grilled him on that many times. showering on kids though doesn't make him guilty. >> maybe it should. >> meantime penn state's career services office sent a letter telling him how to interview with jobs is it reads, quote "students may acknowledge they are primarily concerned for the victims and penn state in these unsettling times. however, students should keep the focus on the job or inter ship for which they are applying and how they will excel in the opportunity." it goes on from there unnecessarily. allison, why on earth did sandusky's lawyer let him do this interview? >> i can't hazard a guess. i really have no idea why he would let him do that interview. particularly given that sandusky -- here is the thing. i can't understand him wanting to clear his name. he is innocent. he has only heard people saying horrible, horrific
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things about him. he wants to clear his name. that's not the response you give when somebody says are you attracted to -- sexually attracted to little boys? he had to ponder that one for awhile. >> i tweeted on monday night after the interview. if when asked you -- if you are sexually attract toatled boys and your immediate answer is not no, you have a problem. >> this is maybe the worst lawyer approved interview. you can see his lawyer having an out of body experience. >> the first thing he should have said -- asked if you are attracted to little boys, immediately say no. you don't become philosophical. well are you talking about -- and also the thing with the resumes for penn state. i definitely would leave rioting off your resume. >> probably wise. >> unless you are applying for a rioting related job. >> you said in the green room
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you felt sair for sandusky. -- sorry for sandusky jie. i didn't want to talk about it on the air. >> the associated press say, quote, experts say sandusky's admission he showered with boys could haunt him at trial. thanks, expert. >> can i point out something about his lawyer nobody has pointed out yet? was it just me or was there not a story that the lawyer did i'm i'm presenting -- impregnate a teenage girl? so he may have a judgment problem already. the whole thing is appalling. i haven't seen the interview. i read the transcript and it is much more appalling to see it. it is not that you don't just say no immediately, you repeat the question. you can tell -- >> why are you showing me? >> can you cut on that one? >> michael, you don't need to tell them. they know to cut to bill.
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>> we were talking over each other. but you could tell he was on the phone scratching his beard, am i attracted? >> that was exactly what herman cain did with the libya question. it was the first thing he did. do i agree or disagree with owe bo ma ma -- obama. it is the instant stall. >> he had taken him to dinner once. >> maybe he wanted a job. >> how many activities including the category of towel snapping? towel snapping encompasses a vast array of activity. >> i have to read from the transcript what he said, he said "and we were, as i recall, possibly, like, snapping a towel." again a lame version. he is sort of half remembering, but half fabricating. >> but bill, this is another quote from the interview that i don't even remember watching, but i saw it today. this is sandusky saying, quote, and i didn't go around
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seeking out every young person for sexual needs i have helped. there were many i didn't have #*e. i hardly had any contact with who i have helped in many, many ways. >> that is almost an admission right there. >> the guy seems to be so out there. he kind of sounded drugged on the interview. maybe it was a lack of sleep. >> i want to get back to the way you viciously be smir ofed his lawyer. this pregnancy did begin with a lot of rat tales. there was horse play. >> was there rough housing? >> we should point out the lawyer did marry the fwirl. -- girl. >> he wanted to make an honest teenager out of her. >> he was the lawyer that drafted the letter of emancipation without telling anyone he had also gotten her pregnant. >> coming up, what is the latest from iowa?
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in iowa it is a four-way tiowa. >> the candidates are neck and neck and neck and neck as we approach the january 3rd caucus. the new poll has herman cain leading by ron paul and mitt romney. also hear the fun campaign fact. by the way, not part of the iowa leading pack, rick perry for some odd dozen of reasons.
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he is trying to jolt the campaign back to life. releasing a plan that would drastically change congress. the executioner is proposing cutting salaries in half and turning them into part-time legislators who hold be jos outside of government. and three new candidates entered the race and they are already beating mitt romney in the polls. >> as a libertarian i saw lute them. -- i saw lute them. >> let's start out in iowa. are you shocked your boy ron paul is tied for the lead? >> if you mean my filipino front-runner. ron paul does amazing things and stupid things. remember the last time, what
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happened to mike huckabee? >> i don't know. >> it worked out well. >> the only thing about looking at the numbers was howdy pressing it is the number of people and they can't name entire parts of the government, but they are going to set it on fire. the whole thing is depressing. >> allison, is this surge for real? i am not buying it, but i thought the hula hoop would be a factor. >> i am buying it. if everybody says he has a big brain and he is one of the smartest people in any room, he certainly knows policy down pat. he canada bait like a champ. it stands to reason he has had this resurgeons, particularly when the flavor of the month, black walnut? maple walnut? >> maple walnut.
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>> jim brown. >> when all of the people who were more flashy there is newt gingrich on the stage. i think it does make perfect sense. we'll see what happens in iowa. i wouldn't be surprised if he has a surprise win. >> before we go to joe it was not jim brown. it was fred the hammer williamson. >> i was about to say rip, but i believe he is still with us. >> joe, the same poll showed all people care about in iowa is the economy and jobs and they don't care about the social issues right now. >> i think this is great. i mean this in a good way. things are out of control when ron paul was out of the running. i love ron paul. you are not going to trick him up with any questions. he doesn't care about believing anybody. rick perry, the thing with him is if he has to say more than
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two things he will get stuck on the third part. he needs a platform where he can have an all the above thing. >> two prongs. >> there is no substitution. no supper pepsi. just pick these two things. >> i love ron paul. he is one of the most hop nest -- honest politicians. >> let's talk about rick perry's plan to reform government. the idea of citizens who have a real job sounds appealing, but are they qualified? >> for me when i was representing police academy, so you are welcome, rick. >> can we go to that tape? >> no, we can only go to greg tapes. i think you have seen the medical -- memo. >> i would like to see them who uses a golf club and then maybe meet someone. >> that is something i can turn into.
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let's find out if we had gotten anything wrong. let's go to mike baker. >> how are you? >> i'm fine thanks, how are you? >> great, how are you? >> doing good so far. >> what i did today, sometimes the shows are preempted and then pea are not sure what they are -- people are not sure what they are talking about. let's go to the scoreboard. w40* has been getting things right and who has been getting things wrong and who has been unclear? you know, i'm feeling like i should hold it up a smidge so that's what i'm going to do. as you can see, and i can't, basically let's say allison is in the lead. she is in the legs chair, and we have to know --
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>> i am not sure the numbers add up, but i like your logic. >> they do. we go to the grades, and this is sort of a visual report card of what is going to. you can see allison has pulled away with an a. but frankly grading on a curve everybody is doing well tonight. >> put that back up. i am not even on there. >> i ran out of rows. >> not enough room for b-i-l-l. >> twitter me later whatever that thing is. we are going to this. this is a new statistic and a new way of explaining information. i have been working hard with the research department and the graphics shop in the news roo. this is what we call an exploded 3-d pie chart. what it does is collectively the pie represents the things that are being said during the course of the first half of the show. and we blow it up to see who said so many correct things.
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>> let me point out that the pie doesn't have my name on it either. >> i cut the pie into four pieces and i don't have a chance to remake it. i'm telling you, next time you will be included. let's go to tonight's sprocket values. as you can see based on the wanger values and the y coordinates, sen essentially not a bad score compared to what we have been doing the past week and a half. we are leading up to a strong holiday season. anyway, let's go to the stories. i think that's important. >> who is cleaning up that paper, by the way? >> i'm afraid i am hitting somebody that is behind me which i'm sure will result in some sort of osha complaint. let's go to story 1. story 1 is what we refer to as the zucati park cleansing. do you prefer michael or mike? >> i don't care. >> what if we call you bet --
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beatty. take a stand do you want to go with michael or mike? >> let's go with michael. >> michael, you refer to them as annoying hippies. i understand what you are saying there, but then you lost me for a second, but then i cam back on board. it was good they got out before the potential cholera outbreak. the crack staff has done some research and apparently in july of 1980 82 -- 1982 we had a cholera epidemic reaching its peak. interestingly enough, according to the news reports while this epidemic was reaching its peek. people of means were escaping the city. >> is that right? >> yes. i see what you are getting at. >> i don't think anybody else at the table is following us. >> that was well done. >> they just wanted a high grade.
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>> essentially what you are saying is what will happen next is the richest 1% on the upper eastside will escape the island horse-and-buggy. >> if the situation had grown out of control and the crap built as high as an elephant is high, the 1% would have left town. >> have you been drinking. >> that's a new theory of yours? >> i think what happens after the 1% leave town is they go to the city of manhattan and then the president's plane crashes. >> and a guy named snake comes in. >> i like what you are thinking. >> in the remake who gets to be jack? >> i think it is mike baker. >> the reason you got that a is because you said the line of the night is big tents and horniness. can you elaborate on that?
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>> no, i cannot i am embarassed to say i never went down there. i wanted to and i think the reporters need to get their hands dirty. but i also had concern for their fellow colleagues that if you went down there you would get a pie in the face or hounded out of there or run on a rail. >> chase you with the spritser bottle. >> a pie in the face. niesms -- i'm sorry, i never explored the horniness. >> i can speak to that. >> joe, you made a very interesting comment, very history reference. you said, we should declare victory and go home. that's what you would do if you were one of the protesters. >> yes. >> and you think that would have been certainlily satisfied to the wall streeters?
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>> i don't care. go ahead. >> where do you stand on this subject? this pie chart will clear that up. >> is that going to the streeters or the newsroom? >> that's going out to be, baby. jay i think on the scoreboard you are doing quite yell. i will have to say, i need a new scorecard. bill you said -- now, again, you have been fairly sympathetic toward the streeters. you said at this point the they need to be backtracking and flipping on what you were talking about before. >> it was available to the pubic and now it must be available to the public. >> let's move on to story two.
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that was the penn state candle and -- no. that story just stinks out loud. it is disgusting and we have no way to deal with that story in a matter where we were treading on turf. let's go into story number three. this is the iowa story. michael you called it depressing. do you have a dog or a preference for any of these candidates? >> no, i don't. i think they are all idiots. i think they are all morons. america is a great country. so many of these morons can get to such efficiency and it would be the next president of the united states. >> how does it get that way? and let me throw that question. how do you think you get a field of candidates who people really don't generally have enthusiasm for? >> i beg to differ that they
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are all morons. jon huntsman seems to be a smart guy. >> he gets 2%. it has gotten to the point where regular, smart people who are qualified are so terrified to throw their hat in the ring because of all of the skeletons in the closet that are unearthed and the torturous year and a half you have to campaign and all of the money that is does tend to attract a particular slice of the population that for instance no one we know would have ever -- >> can i jump in here for a second, mike? since i am hosting? >> i don't believe you need to ask. >> i want to take issue with you about them being -- i don't think newt gingrich is a moron. he is a swell guy. her plan cane ran a business --
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>> he is not smart in the things he -- >> that is different than being a more ron. a ploit cal more -- political moron. i don't think rick perry is a more ron. >> andy uare wrong on my scorecard you are getting a c. >> andy, do you mind if i jump in right now? >> i think we are finished. that's you will i got. >> thanks, mike. coming up, is it owe case to use facebook to break up with your significant other. as long as it is social media and not social me and you. >> i am a big jerk. who added that? bill!
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according to a survey, many are ending their off line relationships on-line. they found one-third admited to ending a romance via cell phone, e-mail or facebook. and 40% said they had no qualmsabout using a technological device to dump someone. let's discuss in the -- >> lightning round. >> is dumping someone via text is cowardly or a sign of the times? >> 40% said they would use it a technological device like a telephone or something. the great thing about the poll it says in the first graph it is unscientific. every time i am on red eye there is unscientific things. >> i don't think you have to point that out. >> i'm fine with it. i'm married and don't think of those things anymore. >> allison, do you think this is more of a guy thing to dump a girl than a girl would do to a guy? >> everybody uses this. i think it is cowardly and i am relieved i missed it by a
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minute because i got married. i do remember when i gotten gauged there were people i felt i should alert that i was engaged and my best friend said e-mail will be your best friend. i sent out a mass e-mail telling in people who needed to know. >> joe, allison's point, isn't this just an age thing? young people don't think twice about this where people of your -- all of your advanced ages -- >> mature. >> yes. just think this is tacky or cowardly. somebody in their 19teen's and early 20s they think this is how we talk to each other. some people got gum pd -- dumped over friends because they had no idea of the relation. >> it is like the opposite of linked inn. >> we like to people to know
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we are in a relationship. it is like, guess what, possible knee, we are dating. >> bill i will make an educated guest and do you want to talk about it. i get radio silence, not even the attacks. >> i disagree with you. it is the path of least resistance. what is done is done. better to do it text than face-to-face. maybe i am a coward, but there you are. >> here ymg. -- here i am. >> getting three people away from a coward. a california stopped at a red light it is still considered driving. h. this after a man was fined for yakking at a stoplight. he said the law applied when the vehicle was in motion. does he have a point?
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should you make calls while at a stop? >> yes, of course. >> my first thought was this makes sense and the second part is you are in traffic when you are stopped at a red light. what if the light turns green and you are not paying attention. >> i stop drinking when the lights go out. >> i think that's a state to state thing. >> you shouldn't do that. >> i hate people who wear blue tooths and don't worry. isn't this what they are for? have a earpiece or speaker in your car. >> i have a feeling people are driving with the phone right here and wearing the blue tooth and other social settings. >> i think we should give a shout out to carl nelson. i thought that was cool.
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>> clearly in the wrong, but it is okay. >> allison, you are allowed to make emergency calls to the police while driving. can't you make calls to the butler. >> yes, the made and the chef and the nanny. i have a staff and that's not easy. >> you are make the -- you are making it further. >> choose your poison, please. >> last word. you never used a phone or driven a car. i assume you have nothing to add to this discussion. i >>- q. i do. -- >> i do. whether you are on the phone or not and driving, don't run me over. it happens once a week. >> remember, america. >> it is time to take a break. while at commercial i i
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panda pooh news. is there any other kind? a chinese man is attempting to create the world's most expensive tea using panda pooh. he thinks the fertilizer will create a unique tea and hopes it will sell for $60 66,000 -- $36,000 a pound. he said, it has a mature and nuty taste and aroma while brewing. okay, weird owe. bill, do you think he should have waited to reveal the secret ingreed yebt? >> panda pooh news is the worst thing for a restaurant. if you have to drink tea it is better a panda and not a person. a panda will never look at you and go, you like that tea, huh? >> wow. >> he says panda dg is rich in nutrients. >> why not cut out the panda and get what they need. or better yet, --
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>> i have the answer. pandas have a poor digestive systems. that means their excrement is rich in fiber. it has to be better than bran. it has to take better than bran. so i said bring on the panda pooh. >> there is an answer for every story. >> focus on penn state. >> it can't be worse than a mcrib, can it? >> i liewlly almost -- i actually almost saw it. there were no bones in it. >> everyone knows that. >> have you never saw a mcrib? >> i know i am off the panda pooh story, but this is more interesting. >> it had a bone shape in it. you are supposed to look like you are eating pones.
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>> we are trying to have a serious discussion. >> all you are talking about is the mcrib. >> if you knew the connection between mcribs and ant eaters. is this satisfy going to be as good as the guy said. it will be all right. you say it absorbs 30% of what it eats, 20%. call me china. we are going to close things out. it is a post game wrap up from mike baker and to see clips of rentes shows go to fox news .com/red eye.
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time to go back to mike baker for the post game wrap up. >> we have a presidential candidate named gary johnson? >> we do. i would like you to keep your comments down. >> let's keep our answers concise. allison, who is cooking your thanksgiving dinner? >> i am, as i do every year. it is my claim to fame. it is the holiday at my house. here is my secret to a moist turkey and cheese sauce and basting. >> that's the secret to a lot of moist things. my will ka, where can i read your take of the sort of republican front ranker? -- front runner. >> i am reviewing two books written by politicians. you should pick them up. >> perfect. joe, where will you be thursday and saturday night? >> thursday at governors on long island and got thisotham club. >> andy, t
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